Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

How full of smelly neckbeards will my local GW store be today

>>53854565
fuck off retard

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>>53854565
At least use a proper bait image.

>>53854565

First for the ebooks are illegible.

>>53854585
i am going with a solid 66.6%

so /tg/ how do we think the leman russ conqueror will work in the new forgeworld index?

seeing as it was known for firing on the move and all russes now hve gun stabilizers I have no fucking idea what theyre going to do with it

>>53854596
on a 3+? Seems legit

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I got a box of marine models from a friend, what is this space marine Sturmtiger called?

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Are the new imperial armor books on an imgur or PDF anywhere? They were all over the place last night but I can't find any.

>>53854623
It's an upside down pattern retardium

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Reposting this pic because people liked it. Conscript spam is fun and good.

>>53854647
What armies have you played against with conscript spam so far, and how are they handling them?

>>53854630
merging Armageddon was a mistake.

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ARE YOU PREPARED FOR 8th "best" edition?!

>>53854623
It's a Vindicator. Apparently with magnetic track plates or something, too. Cool conversion.

>>53854577
I'm planning on only ordering enough line infantry to fill up two or three squads of veterans, then I'm only going to use them for special characters and conversion work. Some of it I like, some of it I don't. I don't think the female arcadians are quite close enough by the male cadians to run them side by side in the same squad, but as officers or sergeants? Differences will only serve to help them stand out even more. I also like the special weapons. Flamers look good, and using them as regular flamers while using the GW ones as heavy flamers should work out well.

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>>53854687
>the Ork heads

How are people converting epubs to pdf? Or getting good quality pngs from the pages?

I'd like to turn these into something not shit.

Can you take haemonculus covens units along side a Ynnari detachment? Or because the rule says "army", are haemonculus covens units completely barred from playing with ynnari?

>>53854685
Not now that they finally integrated big models into the game correctly (so that they aren't instantly killed or totally immortal) and pointed them properly.

If you throw a stompa down the other guy is going to have like 100 models to counter it with now.

>>53854668
I can't really speak as I only played with 550 points. I fought 5 custodes who are hyper cheese and killed them in 4 turns with some Autocannon sentinels helping. They fired 200 shots turn 1 and did 3 failed saves, custodes are fucking cheese.
They deleted squads of khorne berserkers a turn though. Great as hell.

I wanna give my Third Company Imperial Fists red bolters

Is that too much red?

>>53854738
have you ever seen a red rifle that doesn't look retarded son

Haven't played in a while, can someone give me the tl;dr on 8th, is it worth getting back into from 6th or not?

>>53854699
>It's a Vindicator
Cool. Are they good?

How long would it take to -sage the thread away?
Is it possible?

>>53854785
Yeah. I was in the same boat, played in 6th, quit when 7th sucked, came back for 8th and I'm super happy with it. 8th is better than 6th.

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>>53854585
Mines slap full, I would be enjoying it if it werent for
>bitchy wife
>retard family
>retard friend
>fathers day
I just want to watch other people have fun for a few fuck me I bailed early

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Starting 40k DG tomorrow.

I have heaps of 30k DG. What style should I paint them? Left, mid, or right?

>>53854789
They used to be pretty damn shiny, tossing massive damage onto any annoying squad of elites within 24" (yeah, short range was the weakness) but I have no idea what they do now. I imagine much the same, no idea if it does it WELL or not.

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>>53854647
>Always ran mounted vets
>Never used conscripts
>Never planned to use conscripts.
>Veterans are elites in 8th

Lose one Cadia and the whole vet pool goes to shit I swear.

>>53854812
The guy on the right looks like he is oozing strawberry jam.

Can someone post a non-modified, non-shitty ePub of the rule book so I can make a PDF?

>>53854709
yeah pretty much the whole range looks pretty awesome, but like youre doing I think the only way theyre feasible is with a small amount, 50bucks per ten is just too steep for a full army

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So whats the general feel, everyone actually enjoying the newest version, share thoughts and feels.

>>53854812

mid

>>53854812
Mid. Like the colors.

>>53854856
An improvement over 7th. The rules are much simpler (in a good way), and much more balanced. However, everything is slightly blander. The hope is that this gets fixed with codex updates. But until then, it's good, with the potential to be incredible (if they do fix the blandness)

>>53854723
IT SHOULD BE 101 MODELS FUCKING POWER LEVEL SHITTERS RRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>53854731
>declaring anything as cheese when you've only played 550pts
Fuck off

>>53854856
>I didn't play Age of Sigmar
>I didn't like Age of Sigmar
>I was happy playing 40k
>and then 8th

The sad part is, so many changes are exactly what I want.

>Karamazov can't call down orbital strikes on your own guys anymore

why even bother

>>53854630
I too would like to see these for... Research.

>>53854856
8th is great if you ignore all the WAAC faggots trying to purposefully misinterpret rules on purpose.

>>53854932

This. My friend and I have been having a blast playing CSM vs Dangles. He's thrilled that his plasma guns don't fucking explode all the time.

>>53854932
t. guy who got btfo by 10 pairs of conscripts operating independently in a unit and tarpitting his entire army.

Remaining Badab characters and Maynarkh Necrons when?

>>53854932
>purposefully misinterpret rules on purpose
Goddammit, should have reread that before posting.

>>53854955
shut the fuck up dummy

>>53854723
The Stompa is a bad example because it's overcosted by about 400pts, it currently performs worse than two Gorkanauts in just about every field while being 250pts more expensive than them combined

>>53854687
OwO whats this?

I'm mostly curious about all the new fluff.

Since they set the novel at the end of the crusade there is 100 years the rulebook can fill in.

Why is GW so incompetent with shipping?

>>53854812
1. Mid
2. Left
3. Right

>>53854988
they outsource to shitty cheap companies instead of developing their own logistics

>>53854974
That is probably going to be the case for every single titan sized model.

>>53854856
Many good changes, many not so good changes, I did not want AoS sci fi edition in terms of rules and fluff murder

>>53854844

BRUTHA AHM BLIND

>>53854988
In America they are fucking garbage, like other anon they outsource to other companies, elsewhere like in the UK and Australia I've heard they're pretty good when it comes to shipping. I still always receive my White Dwarfs two weeks late.

>>53855008
shut the fuck up dummy

>>53854816
>>53854789

They are absolute garbage, possibly the worst tank in the game.

Anyone else picking up their new 8th stuff not today but on your Warhammer day? I just have the stuff preordered and on hold. Me and my mate are splitting the Dark Imperium box and I'm getting Xenos 2 and Chaos.

Q: If I create an Astra Militarum Regiment of my own
and name them, for example, the ‘Emperor’s Finest’,
and I then also create an Adeptus Astartes Chapter of
my own choosing, and also call them the ‘Emperor’s
Finest’, do the abilities that work on the <Regiment>
and/or <Chapter> keywords now work on both the
Astra Militarum and Adeptus Astartes units?
A: No.

The intent of naming Regiments, Chapters, etc. of your own
creation is to personalise your collections and not to enable
players to circumvent the restrictions on what abilities affect
what units. It is also not intended to circumvent the restrictions
on which units are able to be included in the same Detachment.

wu tang fags btfo

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>>53855027
Dude what the fuck, explain your prob and dont be a cunt

>>53854976
A huge blob of renegade mutant rabble

No rules for them yet but this is the infantry blob edition so they cant be that bad

>>53855004
Like UPS only a company that does not respects its clients would use it.

>>53855052
link to FAQ?

Epubs where? I can only find the rulebook and FW Chaos index in the OP.

I could probably convert everything to PDF too, I'm the guy who created the Crusade Imperialis and Legiones Astartes PDFs over in /hhg/ and they were the same bitchy format.

>>53855005
You obviously haven't seen the stats for imperial/chaos titans

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Can somebody upload a photo of the 14th and 15th pages of the physical 6e Nid Codex?

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So keen for my guys to see some use.
Already put them up against a squad of Intercessors and a Gravis captain, and the results were hilarious.

>>53854892
Have you fucking seen the rules for custodes? They're god damn bonkers and off the wall. Even in 7th they were ridiculous. They got 3 wounds now and no nerfs

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So apparently there was a period after the Great Rift opened where the Astronomicon was gone. It's still gone in the Imperium Nihilus, and Guilliman fought off an incursion against the Imperial Palace engineered by Khorne personally before he could set out on the Indominus Crusade.
So all this begs the question: How did Guilliman Deus Ex Machina his way into the center of Imperium Nihilus to bail out the Blood Angels in time? Each new bit of fluff makes the Baal blurb worse.

>>53854623
Australian Vindicator

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I've played two games of Orks in 8th and I fuckin love it so much better than 8th so far. My first game was versus necrons and although I lost, it was REALLY close and could of gone either way up until the maybe the last two turns. My second game I won against Marinelets and I could of possibly tabled them by turn 5 if the store didn't close and he ceded.We both had fun and it wasn't because of one army being better than another, it was because of good tactical planning on my side and mediocre tactical planning on his. Also teleporting boys is a great distraction carnifex(s). Share your experiances anons!

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Still need an answer: Is it illegal to have an army that would start with less than 0 command points, or does such an army simply have 0 command points?

>>53855100
Kekadigeridoo.

Anything particularly interesting in the new fluff from the rulebooks and codexes?

New to 40K, painted for years but never had a chance to play because I used to live in redneck nowhere but now live in a city. I have questions:

-It looks like the new Index books are really cool, but they're made to become obsolete. Am I right in thinking that they're made just to update current/old models to the new system, and when the codices come out they'll be adding/retconning a bunch of stuff that came out today? So the point of buying them is just to get up to speed for and then buy specific codices as the armies are updated and released?

-I'm planning on getting into Marines. Based on what I'm thinking in the last question, is it worth it to buy a Start Collecting box now if the models will be updated within the year? How often has GW been updating or overhauling models? How likely is it that the current models will become obsolete in a short enough time that it would be worth waiting?

-How acceptable is it to start a Marine army with no specific codex, and switching between rule sets in different games? Would people at a store be upset if I used the same models as two different chapters?

Thanks

>>53855074
In the OP the first Link under Rules and Such

best setup for IF tactical marines in 8th?

I was gonna run 2x squads of them with the same loadout, can't really decide between grav/grav or plasma/something else.

>>53855127
dude, they've answered you last thread. If your total CP turns out to be less than 0, it becomes 0.

>>53855133

Npcs like nid hive fleets are attacking themselves

>>53855133
If you read between the lines, there's a gay for his dad space marine that recently rose to power in a prominent chapter.

>>53855149
Several people answered me, and there was no consensus.

If you secede during a game of 40k you deserve to be shot.

>>53855156

Huh, there's a solution I hadn't thought of for solving the "Nids will eat everything" problem.

>>53855157
Who and what now?

According to the Warhammer Community article these are these are "The final two Imperial Armour Index books", is that right?

Looking in the index for the new Imperial Armour my Secutarii Units don't show up in either the Imperial knights or the Titan legions. Did my favorite titan legion/Admech elite units get fucking squatted?

>>53855133
The only stuff that was in the MRB that I didn't already know was that:
Impatient for quick victory, Khorne TWORE OPEN A PORTAL just outside the Imperial Palace and sent 88 Cohorts of Daemons. The assault was repelled by Guilliman, Primaris Marines, Custodes, and Sisters of Silence before it could reach the Eternity Gate.

For a brief period following the opening of the Great Rift, Astropathic Communication and the Astronomicon were rendered totally silent. And the Legion of the Damned was reported to have materialized across hundreds of besieged worlds that were cut off.

The Imperium Nihulus apparently can't see the Astronomicon at all.

>>53855096
>No nerfs
Motherfucker I will choke you

>>53855169
shut the fuck up dummy

>>53855142
>1. Yes, indexes are a stopgap
>2. Why would you play marines
>3. But why would you play marines tho

>>53855170
lucky me I'm not a dixie

>>53855127
The italicized text heavily implies that you can take as many Auxiliary Support Detachments as you want

>>53855172
They'll be in the next IA.

>>53855179
Oh, and Khorne's rage at the failure blasted apart the very essences of the Exalted Bloodthirsters who led the assault.

Why do vehicles and walkers suffer the -1 to hit when moving with a heavy gun when they are supposed to haul heavy guns around? it's gay hitting on 4's and 5's with these guys

Other than that, 8th is bretty gud

>>53855179

For some reason Legion of the Damned are a deus ex machina I have yet to tire of.

>>53855206
Welp, I guess memescripts are gonna be unstoppable then.

>>53855099
Act like Guilliman and his primaris can't beat up any chaos invasion.

He's beaten up Abbadon's best and Mortatrion.

>>53855170

But what if I really value my state's independence over a game?

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>>53854592

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People weren't lying when they said that the new Primaris Marines were big.

>>53855223
>retarded photoshop cloning
>terrible oversaturation
wow fucking horrible art/10 embarrassing

>>53855211
I always wanted to do a ghostly imperial army with LotD, ethereal-looking Deathwatch, and an Ordo Chronos Inquisitor with a skull for a head.

>>53855170
Had a dude concede in a game because my pask popped his wraithfighter.
Only real anti-tank was 2 squads of Dark Reapers and a bundle of EML's, and I still had five russes on the table.

At the time I was pissed, but then again... takes a D to pop 14 reliably.

>>53855147
That's where I found the rulebook and FW Chaos index (and the phone camera indexes), but shouldn't all of the epubs have leaked by now?

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What does this mean?

>>53855080
Kinda why I'm asking for them

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>>53855093
Sorry, which book?

>>53855209
>>53855179
And apparently less than half of known Space Marine chapters replied to a status request after Astropathic Communication and warp travel was restored. 12 Homeworlds are confirmed destroyed, but some, like the White Consuls, survived the destruction of their worlds.

>>53854835
Run them as Scions.

>>53855242
Chaos Squats inc.

>>53855226
>Fataris Marines

>>53855242
Lots is out of stock as they repackage with 8th edition data sheets in the box

>>53855226
Did they have to put their jumbo diet cokes down in order to hold the guns?

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>>53855242
SLAANESH B T F O
SQUATTED AF

Any of the forgeworld units good enough to murder blobs?

>>53855170
I gave up bottom of Turn 1 when all 4 of my maulerfiends and both LRs were immobilized in my deployment

>>53855211
I'm not even an Imperium player and I agree, there's something rad about their presence in the setting

>>53855242
They'll be getting new models soon then.

>>53855244
The latest Nid codex, that would be 6ed right?

>>53852540
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/06/17/astra-militarum-conscripts-faq-june17gw-homepage/

>>53855253
I'm sitting on a ton of chimeras, and kitbashed dudes with Camo-cloaks.
That is a decent partial fix though.

>>53854812
Mid for sure, the 30k Death Guard scheme is one of the best, I'll also be using it for the new stuff, but with 10,000 years of damage for sure.

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>>53855275
>Maulerfiends will NEVER be immobilized ever again
>Gravcucks all ripping the guns off their bikers/centurions as we speak

>>53855273
titans

>>53854960
Seconding this, I'm dying to see how Ahazra Redth changed in 8th

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>>53855273
Maybe this if the Punishers keep the LR statline and the strafing run special rule.

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>>53855300
dead link bruv

>>53855273

Don't know about about half of them since 2 indices arent out yet
There are some infantry mulchers in the 2 released books
Grav Flux dread IIRC were one thing that could put a decent hurting on hordes

>>53855300
>Error 404 – All Records Expunged from Library
>Sorry, the page you are looking for does not exist or it may never have existed.

>>53855316
because its not real, dummy

>>53855192
(The guy you replied to)

My two favorite armies are Eldar and Tau, but my friend and his brother play them and I want to go with something different. I feel like I could play marines differently based on different chapters to learn more about the game and see how I want to play before getting more into another army.

Hmm according to the Plasma rules, its resolved after effects.

So if you give your CSM havocs/squad prescience (+1 to hit) they can't fail since the lowest they'll get is 2.

Conversely, if you get -1 to hit, you're gonna get cucked as you overhead on a 1 and 2.

>>53855142
>Indexes
They will be updating them yearly by the looks of things but almost every hobby shop will have an open store copy for you to study (or just get it from the OP)
>Marines
A ten man tactical squad shits on its 5 man primaris counterpart at the moment and due to general flexibility and lower point costs they have a solid footing as a valid army still, they will forever be different in play style from the new guys so its really your call which flavor to get , the SC box is alright but if you can find a Strike force ultima or battle demi company set that isnt marked up you'll be better off (check local b&m hobby shops)
>multichapter
nobody would really care honestly but painting might be an issue, check out the alpha legion however as they like to play both sides and are known to infiltrate chapters so it would be easier to pass it off if anyone tries to give you a hard time

>>53855242
That the Daemonettes are currently sold out online.

>>53855262
what other boxes has this then?

>>53855302
Camo cloaks are woven of armormesh, they're the 4+. Chimeras are...

I got nothing. Strap gatling guns on them and run them as Chimera Primes.

>>53855326
It's clearly not real because it is dead. A real link would travel to a page.

Okay I need a list of every way to transport a dreadnought

>>53855351
if they were going to be restocked it'd have the "email me" option on there
instead it's "no longer available online" which is the one squatted products get

So, with the new Eldar god, is Slaanesh kinda btfo like they are in AoS?

My guard list for 8th is currently at 50 conscripts, 1 priest 1 commissar and 2 squads of infantry man's with missile launchers.
I got a lot of models, any ideas for what other cool things I should make? Was thinking heavy bolter teams, they're pretty good

>>53855364
I'm telling you that a "conscripts faq" doesn't exist in the first place, anon
There is a different FAQ on WHcommunity, though

>>53855365
Put it in a shoebox

are there any 8th ed list builders for orks?
>>53855365
For meatspace, I recomend magnets.

Does anyone have the storm eagle datasheet?

>>53855385
No, and Slaanesh will be back in AoS soon.

>>53855300
>>53855316
It's live in New Zeland. Conscripts are down 1 B/WS, - 1ld, and had a minor points cost increase.

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>Oh cool primaris marines, maybe I'll be able to trade these death guard away and get more primaris

>well doesn't look like anyone wantsdeath guard right now, maybe Ill just sit on them until I can find someone to trade with

>these guys are pretty neat, the marines have a ton of detail and those poxwalkers look so...happy.

>and it is nearly a 1000 points of them...


Fuck I've been infected haven't I

>>53855406
Look at the list builder in the OP for once you fucking retards
god damnit
every fucking thread with the "HURRRR WHERR CENNN MEE FIND LEEEST BUULDURR HURRDURRR" because people don't bother reading the OP

>>53855390
>I'm telling you that a "conscripts faq" doesn't exist in the first place, anon

Yes, you pedantic shitlord, I was mocking you. I realize that.

I have a question. I wnat to use my Defiler again for my csm. Do i need a base for it? I don't know whether it still goes witout a base or a base like a knight has.

>>53855414
I know. I just mean current status. After Arcanites, curious to see what neo Slaanesh is.

But in 40k, how does Yiddy interact with the whole soul drain thing?

>>53855414
>Slaanesh will be back in AoS soon.

Yeah i'll bite.

Source.

>>53855170
I typed secede and not concede. How am i this retarded?

>>53855429
why the fuck are you even responding when I was making fun of a dumbass who thought the link was real but newly deleted

>>53855424
I'm considering trading away my primaris marines for Death Guard.

Where you at?

>>53855348
>A ten man tactical squad shits on its 5 man primaris counterpart at the moment and due to general flexibility and lower point costs they have a solid footing as a valid army still, they will forever be different in play style from the new guys so its really your call which flavor to get , the SC box is alright but if you can find a Strike force ultima or battle demi company set that isnt marked up you'll be better off (check local b&m hobby shops)

I don't blame you for holding this opinion but point for point the gap between primaris and tactical squad isn't nearly as ridiculous as many (including myself) first thought

>>53855439
Atia, Hastings.

>>53855424
Father Nurgle accepts you brother, enjoy his blessings!

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>>53855447
Because thats me

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>>53855385
Slaanesh hasn't been squatted quite yet, but he definitely definitely has less of a presence compared to Nurgle and Tzeentch's 2-page spreads.

>>53855451
Primaris also might be ae to use that range advantage.

>>53855450

Seattle area my nigga.

>>53855332
Well, if you're going to buy oldmarines, I'd suggest second-hand, just in case they are due for a squatting.

Primaris are the "safe" option, but also overhyped and overpopular. Not so bad when you're playing with your own group but it means at least triple the amount of autists wandering over and telling you how to play your army.

Would suggest Skittles, but it's good to see the amount of Xenos in your group.
Not a fan of Orks or 'Crons?

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>>53855466
gosh darnit, I will fuck you 'til you love me faggot

>>53855467
That's been the case for like 20 years. Slaanesh has fewer models, is featured less in fluff, and shows up way less in imagery. It's a mix of slaanesh being distantly the weakest of the chaos gods, slaanesh being the worst selling of them, and slaanesh being a bad look for GW when timmie is looking at a model catalogue and you see hex cow tits everywhere.

>>53855491
Welp, I'm in London so... GL with those Death Guard.

>>53855028
Even in 8e? That's disappointing.

Morai-Heg is the daughter of Slaanesh and Ynnead.

Slaanesh and Ynnead will merge to create a single eldar god.

>>53855451
Mind you their vehicles havent been shown yet and with normal marine vehicles costing so much I'd say its safe to assume that primaris will be even higher, they are intended to be babbys first army with flat point costs and lower model counts after all

>>53855508
He's lying.

>>53855093
Bump

>>53855508
They're not terrible at killing units like terminators effectively, but in the horde heavy meta they kinda suck. Demolisher canons in general are a lot weaker against things that aren't single multi wound models or valuable 2 wound squads with a lot of armor.

>>53855226
The fact that they even make clothes this big is horrifying.

>>53855455

I bet the Noise marines plastic release will add some stuff for fantasy

>>53855494
>but it means at least triple the amount of autists wandering over and telling you how to play your army.

How often does this happen to you?

Just the other week i had some autist screech that my Iron warrior force doesn't use berzerkers and i should get a Lord on Juggernaut because of how epic he is in combat. And i'm just like "nigga 8th is right around the corner, and the axe of blind fury is dead" - He wasn't happy.

>>53855475

The range advantage is a very nice bonus (15" rapid fire is nothing to sneeze at, especially with plasma) but that AP-1 is deceptive because it doesn't look super impressive until you see just how many shots its applying to, which really skews the numbers.

I did an analysis a few threads back yesterday where I showed equal points of tacticals (with heavy bolter+plasma) out damages primaris marines by about 15-20% while the primaris marines will have 50% more wounds per point.

The typical example is that for every 2 kitted tactical squads you can get 3 intercessor squads and trade some damage potential (especially against vehicles) for a significant boost in survivability against D1 weapons.

That last part matters a lot because anyone shooting D3+ damage weapons at a 100 point intercessor squad isn't trading their time very well. Its almost a trap to shoot them with lascannons or missiles.

>>53855508
ONLY in 8e, Anon

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>>53855496

>>53855423
>Conscripts are down 1 B/WS, - 1ld
Wait, so are they B/WS 6+ now?

>>53855553
Happens to me almost never.
Spergs walk up, see my tin rubrics and back the fuck off.

>>53855522

I'm basically expecting a transport sicaran for their floaty tank, somewhere between a land raider and a predator.

Right now nearly all space marine vehicles are actually quite good, so I'm not too worried about it.
>>53855500

S'cool m8, I think I'm actually coming around to them

>>53855573
he's lying to you. it's a fake link.

>>53855508
They're pretty shit, they used to be large blast but they don't get d3 shots unless your target unit has at least 5 models and then they only do d6 damage.

Here is FW Chaos Index in PDF.

http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=42492327752258854809

Someone add it to the OP and the mega directory Please

>>53855573
conscripts are WS/BS 5+, regulars are 4+, vets are WS 4+ and BS 3+.

>>53855423
>tfw venomthropes make my army immune to IG

>>53855573
>Ld 3
Oh I could not laugh hard enough.

Gtfo liar

>>53855600
He's talking about a release-day hotfix nig
Get with the program

>>53855599
Why would you not just upload it here? Virus alert.

So points decrease, can wound land raiders and shit, still get saves against not just bolters but even heavy bolters.
Conscripts got buffed and people pretend otherwise? Probably the same as the riptide wing people

>>53855629

Is there a link to it or are we being bamboozled?

Where's this FAQ? I can't find it.

>>53855631
Why do you think riptides are being sold everywhere? To pay for conscripts/brimstones/gants/boyz

>>53855641
you're being bamboozled

>>53855644
>>53855641
the "conscript faq" is fake you fucking tards

>>53855602
They could be ld -100 and it wouldn't mean shit as long as they tag team with comissar

>>53855655

I'm not talking about the conscript shitposter, I mean the day one 8th FAQ.

2 command squads and a platoon commander in a Valkyrie with a mix of heavy and special weapons for taking/holding objectives and generally doing cool shit or just take squad of vets instead and don't make such a point/killpoint sink?

>>53855666
https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Warhammer_40000_Designers_Commentary-ENG.pdf

Right here princess.

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>>53855629

If my Rhino is locked in combat can I disembark with the units inside?


Can I charge directly from inside?

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>>53855675
Huh. So does this mean I can't have a Militarum Auxilia officer for ordering my ogryns?

>>53855675

Oh well that's why I couldn't find it, they didn't call it a FAQ.

>>53855494
Skittari are also interesting, I just didn't feel enough for them from an art perspective. I was considering Necrons as well but I don't know enough about them. I kind of figured Marines as a "safe" investment as far as finding advice/resources for playing them.

>>53855686
technically the Rhino is a different model than anything inside

guys disembarking would not be locked in combat so long as they are 1 inch away from enemy models when they disembark

those guys could shoot and/or charge, too

How are the tyranid FW units?

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What do you think they're thinking?

>angry-chaos-man-dabs-while-falling.jpg

>>53855647
Probably
>>53855719
Come back next week to find out

>>53855719
Xenos isn't out yet. Next weekend

>>53855699
You've already found the internets. You're going to get plenty of resources and advice no matter what army you pick.
Fuck safe. Choose whatever makes your dick hard.

What's the count for the number of times "wolf" is used in the SW codex?

>>53855765
this. it applies even more to 40k, which is a rule-of-cool universe.

>>53855815
Too damn many.

https://www.docdroid.net/rBfQ3p8/imperial-armour-index-forces-of-chaos.pdf.html

FW Chaos PDF

>>53855725
Seeing as the primaris have been shown in the little bit of fluff we have to be have a more normal mindset.

I think they're just acting as this is just cleaning the galaxy. Further illustrated by that primaris seemingly throwing the already dead marine of the cliff. They see chaos as dirt, they don't have that connection to the traitor legion the older marines have.

>>53855765
Thank you, wise friendo. I will think heavily on these suggestions.

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>>53855725

>>53855815
7th ed codex or 8th index?

>>53855844
7th

>>53855363
Just take Chimeras as taurox 1.0's and grab the autocannon turret from forgeworld. You're still not as effective as you'd be if you took more infantry squads with platoon commanders, though.

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>>53855725
They're just hanging out, guy
Taking a lil breather

>>53855825
Just upload the pdf no one trusts a pdf with an .html link at the end

>>53855851
I'll count
mostly out of morbid curiosity

Its too big to post here its like 20+ MB

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>>53855725

>>53855601
Problem with venoms are they're movement 5

Only viable unit to keep them with are warriors because it doesn't hurt them to walk at a slower pace equipped with stranglethorn and devourer

>>53855423
>>53855300
Oh that's nice. My venom transports can't be hit by scripts now.

>>53855744
>>53855745
How have they not been leaked yet

So tervigons have to pay for new gaunt units but can add to an existing squad for free?

>>53856005
FW runs a tight ship

>>53856005
>yet
People can't even post the Astartes epub properly yet

>>53855965
can venoms shoot? no? then always advance them. the fastest shit will outpace them, but that fastest shit is going to be jumping down your enemy's throat and not benefiting from venoms cloud.

>>53855984
please stop pretending the fake link is real

>>53856007
Yes, welcome to the "balanced" game

>>53856005
Its not out yet and its a digital only product.

>>53856007

Yes.

8th ed Tervigon set ups are currently a Tervigon+Gants (20 Devourers/10Fleshborers)

You can only bring back Fleshborer Gants and only up to 10 meaning you only want 10 in the unit to begin with.

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What if the dark angels are playing one big game of tag, and the fallen are the ones who aren't it yet?

>>53855725
>Said the chefs over the lobster

>>53856062
Actually, what is the deal with the fallen?

They went traitor during the heresy and DA are all hush hush about it. But every legion had some that went traitor or stayed loyal and they aren't freaking the fuck out

>>53855675
>they kill the wu tang clan
Thank goodness. Fucking annoying meme.

Q: If I create an Astra Militarum Regiment of my own
and name them, for example, the ‘Emperor’s Finest’,
and I then also create an Adeptus Astartes Chapter of
my own choosing, and also call them the ‘Emperor’s
Finest’, do the abilities that work on the <Regiment>
and/or <Chapter> keywords now work on both the
Astra Militarum and Adeptus Astartes units?
A: No.

WU TANG FAGS BTFO

>>53856005
Forgeworld don't have stores to supply beyond warhammer world, they don't send things out until they are released.

>>53855675
RIP Wu-Tang. This is worse than Tupac and Biggie.

>>53856055

I prefer 15/15 to soak up more losses

>>53856102
quiet down jew

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>>53854647
>Really want to do a Guard conscript spam army
>Hate the Cadian plastics
>Can't afford, or cope with, metal minis

suffering. I just wanna bury things in bodies ;__;

Cool guard army, and good paint job too. On a side not, are those helmets, like the one on the left-hand missile team, part of the regular vahallan minis or from somewhere else?

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Points ftl

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>>53856125

>Using GW models for conscripts

>>53855834
It ain't all altruism.
Space marine players are apparently half of the playerbase. The younger half.
It sucks and is boring to play against.

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>>53856133
>tfw using power levels and points

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>>53856125
> On a side not, are those helmets, like the one on the left-hand missile team, part of the regular vahallan minis or from somewhere else?
Theyre part of the valhallan minis, some of them got helmets modelled after the old ww2 soviet ones.
The ones with gasmasks are 3rd party Pig Iron Miniature heads with cadian parts and greenstuff

>>53856136
Only place to play locally is GW store and I cannot into making friends to play with.

>>53856160
fuck off snowflake pile of shit

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>>53855725

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>>53856133
idk, power looks like a decent system for just quick pick up games

>>53856170
Cool, thanks.

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>>53855765
>Choose whatever makes your dick hard.

YFW no rules for Miriael Sabathiel

will do dirty dirty things for a pdf or epub of the FW Imperium book

so with primaris being guillelelelmans new playthings will they have a mindset more akin to marines during the crusade? more like you average soldier than warrior monk shit?

>>53856178
Saved.

>>53856160
If you aren't going to play against him
Technically it IS altruism.

>>53856180

For friendly games, yes.

For playing with strangers, no due to the imbalance.

>>53856208
Yes.

>>53855211
Coming soon, Codex: Imperial Demons (starring Celestine and The Ghost Riders).

weren't the regular indexes released as epub?

>>53856177
>T. Ultramarines player

>>53856219
You can play a friendly game with a stranger, though

>>53856236
>T. Retarded snowflake

>>53855273
Mortis grav flux levithan dread BTFOs hordes so hard it almost isn't funny. Almost.
If you can eliminate hordes way to get around morale (sniper scouts for commisars, anti-tank for synapse creatures and so on) then it will mulch through hordes.
That, paired with the fact that it's about as tough as a land raider and only 309 points means that meme lists like conscript spam have died before they could even live.

Just don't forget to bring some screen units.

>>53856239

Until he drops an army that is 50% more points then yours since he cheesed the shit out of power

>>53855862
he's not sitting down he's dragging a chaos marine by the shoulderpads

>>53856208
The Unnumbered Sons (mix of all gene-seed primaris' waiting to be sent or assigned a chapter) act like american heritagefags desu

Sons of Russ are furry obsessed, Sons of Ferrus cut their arms off, Sons of the Lion have existential guilt, all despite never being with their legions.

>>53856081
used to be that loyal legions where loyal to a man, with the exception of DA
the recent fluff changed that though

>>53856262
That's not a friendly game though, is it?

>>53856081
I think it's a matter a proportion. Most loyalist legions had few traitors. The DA basically split 50/50 and could have easily become a traitor legion.

>>53856281
When did it change?

>>53856081
They are ashamed that they were the first Legion and even they fell to chaos so they just wanted to bury the whole thing but in their haste to write off any possible heretics that they wrote off the loyalists among them as well and thats why the Fallen are a messy subject because some come to the aid of the imperium while others want to see it crumble and you cant tell who from who until they shoot at you

>>53856281
That's not true at all anon. Many small groups went rogue for many chapters. Blackshields were a thing for almost all legions, even in older stuff.

>>53855956
i get that reference

>>53855725
>jack there's not enough room on here for both of us
>rose pls no

How common are Ringworlds in 40k? I was planning having my space marine chapter to be guarding one near the halo stars that is inhabited by humans and a host of many mechanicus adepts

>>53856356
>Ring worlds
>Near mechanicus
Metals for dayz, sounds fluffy as hell

>>53856125
>not making your own conscripts from bits from chaos cultists, GSC neophyte hybrids, skitarii and assorted different IG troopers

Any leafs know a good place to order from?

>>53856356
No known ringworlds in 40k. Planetary rings are a thing tho, or make it a space station shaped like a ring.

Is there a rule that allows me to attack a model on a different floor? There doesn't seem to be anything in the rulebook.

I was facing a guy that put his models on the second floor of a small building, but in such a way I couldn't get in base contact with him.

>>53854682
>get a boner for FORTIFYING EVERYTHING
>love space prussians
>hate fucking yellow
god damn it

>>53856356
as common as the people that build them

the necrons are crazy as hell, they probably built a few

>>53856425
maybe they phased them out lel

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>>53856356
What, as in the Larry Niven Ringworld? I can totally see one showing up, and it WOULD be infested by techpriests. Go for it.

I've had a bit of a sci-fi binge recently, I kind of want to make some Commonwealth Saga Prime Motiles as Genetor creatures, it would even fit with both sides of the fluff since they're receptive to neural impulses from transmitter implants, I.E Noospheric Control is entirely possible.
Nobody would ever get the reference, though, since I've never found anyone else who's read that series.

>>53856430
succesor chapter my man

>>53856081
Because, honestly, The DAs "thing" has been "are they traitors or not".

There has always been an argument for DA being the traitors, and Fallen being the 'good' guys.

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How come chaosfags got their Index and marinefags are still waiting?

I demand rules, in the name of the Emprah!

>>53856430
Make a new company, maybe with swapped colors?

>>53856456
i assumed he meant as in the video game halo, since he said near the halo stars

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>>53856430
Just give them the black scheme they used in the Great Crusade

>>53856430

>Crimson Fists are the exact same thing but blue

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Have you improved your painting skills over the years?

>>53854682
Okay, that's some cool art

>>53856491
God damn that's aesthetic. Why would GW ever scrap that for their current scheme?

>>53856493
Blue sucks too.
>>53856491
Thought that black with yellow was veteran / templar only?

>>53856425
I thought many deathwatch thingies were

>>53856356
Necrons are presumably the only species that could build one, Eldar a small one maybe.

None mentioned in current fluff though.

>>53856493
And mexico. And a bigger ork hate-boner.

>>53855292
no thatd be 8th anon.

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>>53855725

how long does it take for Warstore to send items

Someone redpill me on Prussia and what that has to do with the imperial fists

>>53856547
Neat

>>53856538
Those are indexes, not codexes.

>>53856538
The actual codex, not the index

Any news about proper Noise Marines?

Fuck Nurgle.

>>53856586
they're amazing and they're in index chaos

what other news did you need?

Anyone got an idea if you can buy a reload for Recon drones in Shadow war: Armageddon and how much it costs.

>>53856509
Yeah it is but who gives a shit.

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>>53856576

>>53856508
Because the history of 40k is fictional and in real life chronology the "old" scheme is newer and they never scrapped anything? Are you retarded?

>>53856323
what if a fallen becomes a blackshield?

>>53856569
depends if in stock, he shipped my new rulebooks yesterday, so im getting them mid next week

Does Grukk Facerippa not have rules anymore?

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90 points all in. Best transport confirmed?

did anyone buy digital edition of the Forge World Imperium Index?

if so, please share it

Is there any imperial guard FW leaks?

>>53856684
yea, uploading it to the mega soon.

>>53856572
no idea anon, but one of the prussian kings had a saying "prussia is not a state with an army, but an army with a state" that always stuck with me from my old history class

>>53855599
IT'S LEGIT

LOVE YOU, ANON

>>53856672

WS 5+ is crap, but 9A on a charge is interesting
Also 2x Heavy flamers for extra crispy heretics

>>53856582
>>53856584
Than 7th is the most recent.

>>53856687
No, aside from the Marauder Destroyer. IG book isn't out until 23rd

>>53856547
Kek

>>53856731
got a link to the marauder destroyer sheet?

>>53856572
>autism and organization
>blood and iron
>hierarchy and obedience

>>53856725
There was no 7th edition Tyranid Codex scrub. 6th was the most recent.

>>53856689
doing the Emperor's work, anon

I'd enjoy a pdf version a lot!

So, do we have full Index Xenos 2 yet?

>>53855244
The one on the left...

>>53856745
http://www.warhammerdigital.com/all-products/forces-of-the-astra-militarum-index.html it's in the preview, dl for a higher quality

>>53856514
>None mentioned in current fluff though.

On the ring world of Avatroid, the Scions fought alongside the Space Marines of the Aurora Chapter -- together, they controlled a burgeoning daemonic incursion and destroyed the infected citizens, saving the majority of Avatoid's populace.

>>53856781
That's 5th edition. Why are you all retarded newfags.

>>53856689
thanks anon

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>chargers dont need LoS to charge
>people who get charged need LoS to overwatch

2 years of playtesting LMAO

>>53856803
That was intentional and smart, not a playtesting error.

>>53856803
You need LoS to shoot, you only need to know where the enemy is to run at them.

And it works well.

>>53856256
Good, good. Someone needs to make hordes less reliable so I don't have to overly anti-horde my army.

>>53855694
correct.
you also don't get Harkers bonus to <regiment> catachans... it only works on stracken.

>>53856803

It kinda make sense desu.

Flying unit behind a wall jumps over and charges, charged unit is surprised and has no time to react.

>>53856672
by far, yes. Even with just one HF, it is vastly a better pick over a rhino.

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>>53855244
Which of the three was the best codex cover?

>>53856651
I forget which book / short it was from, but there was one where it was about Asmodai interrogating a DA who was sent for a stint on the Deathwatch because they believed one of the black shields was a Fallen.

I never really thought about DA chaplains being total assholes even to their own brothers, but they really do trust no one.

>>53856803
>I know they are behind this wall, but I can't charge them :(:(:(

vs

>I can charge them, and they can't see me to fire until its to late.

>>53856689
yes! doing emprahs work son! bless you

>>53856837

Actually that is still in the open (and I honestly do not know if it was intentionally left out of the FAQ or just forgotten).

FAQs rule against naming an open keyword with a keyword from another list (1st one) and inventing shared keywords (2nd one)

I see not direct rule about a keyword in the same list.

>>53855599
Hail to you, champion