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>>53843463
Whaddya think? Rakdos Control or B/R Wither Aggro?

>>53843463
I can't quite remember the cards that would go with this, but I think "Nest of Scarabs" was one of them, and I think that this could lead to an infinite draw engine in Grixis colors.

EDH of course,as the cards you'd need to set this up wouldn't be all that great in a Standard/Eternal format deck.

>>53843463
Why the fuck doesn't it have a name?

Why doesn't it work like the other gods? What about this creature makes it be a god?

Since when does Rakdos get a a 5-mana 6/5 with no downsides?

>>53844216
>Why the fuck doesn't it have a name?
Because Bolas turned it into its mindless killing machine and erased it from history

>Why doesn't it work like the other gods?
Because Bolas turned it into its mindless killing machine and screwed with it to make it a perfect weapon that doesn't need some fiddly worship to do his bidding.

>What about this creature makes it be a god?
The fact that it used to be a god when Bolas fucked it up

>Since when does Rakdos get a a 5-mana 6/5 with no downsides?
Who cares?

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How does this make you feel, /tg/?

>>53844277
It's draft chaff common, don't complain that it isn't constructed playable you babies.

>>53844288
yeah it would truly be a disaster if a common was playable in constructed

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>>53844288
>>53844277
Damn nice digits

>>53844302
>one common isn't playable in constructed
>NO COMMON SHOULD EVER BE PLAYABLE AM I RITE GUYS?

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>>53844277
for what reason

>>53844341
>>>NO COMMON SHOULD EVER BE PLAYABLE AM I RITE GUYS?

careful, you might land a job at wotc with talk like that

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>>53844288
Touch of the void was a bad card but it at least had fringe use with its exile clause. Outside of Standard there was always the possibility of getting around color protection or some other shenanigan. Open Fire is the same card except without those two saving graces, and they weren't very good graces to begin with.

It's a bad card. Through and through. Is it probably playable, somewhere? I think so. Most bad cards are. But it's still just a bad, baaad card.

>>53844273
Thanks for the explanation anon. So Scorpion God is one of the three Bolas erased from history? Does that mean we're getting the other two?

>>53844694
We see Locust God in the trailer

>>53843463
Man as someone that literally only plays BR in modern I am very excited for this

>>53843463
Its weird that there are only three new gods. I wonder what the other colors are going to get to balance out the power.

>>53845013
Well we got GR Samut the Dindu nuffin good as a mythic so I assume the "good" guys get a few gold mythics/rares to balance out vs the gods and Nicol Bolas.

>>53845013
The 3 gods are the pairings of Bolas' colors.

>>53845104
I know but it off sets the balance of power across the colors. I know that's never really a thing for them but they always at least attempt to keep things equal. So I'm interested in what the other colors will get.

>>53844050
Jund wither seems stronk asf

>>53844717
Plus scarab god with the staff. Ironically this is the one we hadn't seen very clearly yet

>>53845104
So we'll get R/B, U/B, and R/U? hmm I wonder which of the other two are which

>>53845221
Scarab and Locust could both be BU, so I don't know.

Am I the only one who is upset that Scorpion God is BR? I figured it was going to be
>UB Scarab God
>BR Locust God
>UR Scorpion God
BR and all the -1/-1 counters seems much better on a god whose design comes from a creature known for mindless, self-serving consumption.

>>53844277
I have no words for this, and the longer I search for them, the worse I end up feeling.

>>53845268
Locust is probably gonna be UR, because locusts can fly and Scorpions can't.

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So, Eternalize is just Embalm, only their P/T is their old cmc?

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>>53845326
Seems more like it's set to 4/4, considering the Eternalize cost on the doublestrike cat.
3WW for a 2/2 doublestrike (after being a 1/1 for 1W) does not make for an exciting promo card. 3WW for a 4/4 doublestrike on the other hand is far more reasonable.

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>>53845456
2

>>53845305
If Locust is blue simply because of Flying, I will be incredibly disappointed.
>>53845456
Still hate these designs. Would play the originals over these every single time.

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>>53845484
3

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>>53845511
FOUR

>>53845484
Grind to Dust seems pretty good
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>>53845522
dem 5 lands tho

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>>53845491
I'm gonna bet the locust is UB because the scarab god has some massive staff with shimmering power. Calling it now, since the RB god is connected to -1/-1 counters the UB god will be connected to cycling and the UR god will be connected to spells in the graveyard in some way.

>>53845531
yea but white is pretty shit for -1/-1 coverage :/

>>53845579
That's what the black is for.

>>53845562
Fuck yes, im glad to get another full art island for my deck, now im only one printing away from having all full arts

>>53845574
i smell bolas level colors:
UB
BR-scorpio
RU

>>53845456
>Bb00B M00R
>BAMRAYLORI

What do they mean by this

>>53845326

Tokens that are copies of other cards are already pretty complicated in terms of rules knowledge required to understand it.

I'm not sure they're willing to make it more convoluted at common by working CMC into the mix.

>>53845562
>Gideon's Defeat

Damn. All we need now is Liliana's Defeat and we're set.

>>53845632
l2r is the meaning

>>53845652
that is the card next to it....

Destroy target black creature or black planeswalker. If it was a Liliana planeswalker, it's controller loses 3 life.

I'm so happy the Jacetice League is getting rekt, by Nicol Bolas even.

>>53845686
jace version - scry 2 bonus
niss version - draw card bonus
chandra ver. - discard card > draw card

>>53845659
But who is Bamray Lori?

Or is it Bam Raylori?

Or is Bam a nickname? "Bam" Ray Lori?

Or maybe the nickname is Bam Ray. As in some sort of ray beam that shoots sound effects. "Bam Ray" Lori sounds like a good name for a bard.

>Ladies! Are you ready for THE BAM RAY?!?

I guess Lori is a feminine name though. Doesn't work as well.

Gonna be honest, I've lost track of what I was talking about.

>>53845652
>>53845686
>>53845729
So, how does /tg/ rate the defeat cycle? In a vacuum, I'd say that it's u>g>w>b>r, but w and b are probably gonna see the most play in standard, what with Mardu and Zombies likely to take over the format.

>>53845484
How does one get trampled on my a naga/snake?

>>53845829
situational sideboard card restricted by same color...
I feel if people find ways to make bolas reliable, i forsee uses of the U B R versions as sideboard

>>53845955
trample: to tread on or crush
constriction could be considered trample

>>53845829
Black's one of the best even in a vacuum. Outright creature kill for one mana without further conditions besides the color restrictions (doesn't have to be attacking/blocking, can't have 6+ toughness) is good.
I'd actually say White is the worst because it's the most conditional of them all. Blue gets around its timing problem by hitting ANYTHING, and green will ALWAYS have a target if you're boarding it in, but even against a deck running Gideons you could well sit there with Gideon's Defeat in your hand and never be able to cast it.

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>>53844277
Literally just needed to be a functional repritnt of Puncture Blast. Give it Wither and it would have fit RIGHT IN with the -1/-1 counter theme.

>>53844216
Doesnt have a name or work like the other gods because Bolas erased them from history and reshaped them, they dont get names. With this I think we can also figure that being hard to kill and large p/t is a defining mechanical attribute for a creature type - god. If they literally made all gods indestructible + an animating mechanic I think the well
would run dry pretty quick.

>>53846088
soul scar mage

>>53845955
L E W D
E
W
D

>>53846120
Yes, Im so happy to spend 4 mana for an effect that should cost 3. Thank you based wotc.

>>53845562
Oh hey, Red gets another bear. Neat.

>>53846135
>that should cost 3
THAT SHOULD COST 1, DAMMIT!

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>>53846135
what is turn 1 or 2...

>>53845562
If the gods were working for Bolas, why did he kill them?

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>>53844277
HA HA HA

I was just joking with anon last thread that he wouldn't get a Lightning Strike reprint;

I've never played red in my life and weep for thee.

>>53846176
Im comparing it to the wither bolt, but im so fucking sick of wotc not letting people kill shit in this fucking game.

>>53845456
eat shit WotC

>>53846307
Cause he's done with them. And Hazoret keeps hesitating, I'm sure they will be briefly convinced to attack Bolas once again, but we already know each one dies. Man Amonkhet is ruined, what an ashtray of a world.

>>53846371
That blows. Amonkhet was a cool setting. What's even worse is that everyone guessed that this was how it was going to end and it was really that predictable

>>53845829
Jace is Gainsay.

Liliana is Dark Betrayal.

Gideon is a tweaked Glare of Heresy

Chandra is just a stock red burn spell.

Green getting "destroy target forest" is something that has never happened before. The or enchantmenr or planeswalker clause is just icing. It's the most unique/original one, so it's easily the best.

>>53846404
>Liliana is Dark Betrayal
at sorcery speed

>>53846176
Lightning bolt is too strong. Lightning bolt warps every enviornment it's in. Any creature that fails the bolt test becomes borderline unplayable. Development is forced to artifically jack up the number of creatures with 4 or more toughness.

It should cost 2.

>>53846394
I wanted to explore the history of what Amonkhet once was more. But no chance now, now even the last bastion of civilization has been totally btfo, it's dead. I guess a plane dying completely is interesting in its own way.

>>53846404
Nissas downfall is a shittier creeping mold

>>53846423
So how is "it sucks if it doesn't pass the shock test" any better?

>>53846479
You can print more creatures with 3 toughness without things getting weird and other numbers having to change to compensate, than you can with creatures with 4 toughness.

Not saying Shock is perfect either.

>>53846479
2 damage is a lot more forgiving than 3 damage.

4255 creatures that have enough toughness to survive Shock, against 2483 that have enough toughness to survive Lightning Bolt. That's over 1700 creatures that beat the Shock test while failing the Bolt test.

That's a lot, by the way.

>>53846479

Notice how "dies to lightning strike" isn't a game breaker like "dies to bolt" is

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>>53843463
>just build Hapatra EDH and it's awesome fun
>Scorpion God EDH looks fun as hell too

I don't want to build both, wut do?

>>53846371
>what an ashtray of a world.
That's the way WotC likes them.

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>>53846423
>conditional one-mana removal is too good
And yet we have Fatal Push in the format, and things are still fucking fine. That's because we have small creatures that either have recursion (scrapheap scrounger), good ETB effects (rogue refiner), efficient stat-lines (toolcraft exemplar), or other ways of getting incremental value even if they're bolted.

Lightning Bolt warps every environment it's in because it's the baseline. Cards should be good enough to exist in a format with lightning bolt, and the already ARE good enough.

In fact, I'll go one step further. Every single format of magic should have
>a red spell that deals 3 damage and can hit face for R
>a green mana dork equal or superior to llanoar elves for G
>a blue spell that lets you draw a card + minor extra value for U
>a black spell that makes you discard a card (conditionally) for B
>a white creature that can (conditionally) be more powerful than a 2/1 for W

This is the baseline of what a format should have.

>>53846423
Legacy has the most creatures with thoughness 3 or less in any format.
Bolt is the fairest card in Magic.

>>53846613
>mfw I have an old wither deck from shadowmoor/eventide

My dick cannot get any harder. I want my Jund -1/-1 counter commander.

>>53846613
I just ended up buying all 10 duals, fetchlands, shocklands, filters, checklands, fastlands and manlands. After that buying new EDH decks as fun new legends get spoiled has never felt like a chore anymore.

Why is fucking land the barrier of entry into this game?

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>>53845562

>Hazoret dies

That's a bummer.

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>>53846714
Send trample pls

>>53846725
Because it's in high demand to Wizards keeps them at rare so people crack packs so they have low supply so they get expensive.

>>53846732
>Hazoret dies

Don't you lie to me.

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OH BOY HERE WE GO
>still ugly as sin though

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>>53846773

Look at the flavortext. I'm bummed, she is my favorite of the Gods, won me quite a few games at the Pre-release.

>>53846793
I D A M R A Y C O R I ?

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>>53846806

>>53846725
Wizards would rather print shitty cycles of new lands rather than just printing what works on rotation.

Filterlands, shocks, checks, fetches, fastlands, and painlands should be on rotation forever.

>>53844537
Instant speed is relevant more often than the exile clause, I should think. Not saying it's good, but it's certainly better than Touch at least.

>>53846807
So all the gods die? Wonder what the story is.

>>53845239
Scarab seems like it'd fit R/U better than Locust would.

>>53846811
Damnation

>>53845829

Liliana's defeat might also be handy for its ability to instakill Veil and bolt her controller in other formats for one mana, which seems like a decent sideboard if jund is big in your area since it can also kill bobs and such for cheap.

>>53846394

No, a ton of people were predicting there'd be some revolution against Nicol Fucking Bolas and the Gatewatch would win because they're not actually paying much attention to all the "coming here was a MISTAKE" foreshadowing.

It's Bolas, the dragon who can rend planets asunder by sheer force of will. Frankly, it's kind of nice if we can just see him let loose for once without some incredibly convenient one-time thing stopping him from demonstrating the full extent of his power.

>>53846843
Ixilan has the M12 cycle of lands so there's a bit of a reprieve standard-wise.

>>53847098

I was very excited to hear Checklands are making a return. After a prolonged absence I've come to really appreciate how much I loved that cycle.

>>53844277
They had a chance to make this set a callback to the good times when Nicol Bolas was a part of the game.
Could have made something that mirrored lightning bolt but had a drawback. Could have made something that interacted with -1/-1 or tokens or zombies or something to fit in with the set.

Nope. Made this instead. Fuck you WotC

>>53845511
>cycle-ing colored deserts

I am interested

>>53847146

>Lightning Bolt with a drawback
>R
>LBWAD deals 3 damage to target creature or player. Put 2 -1/-1 counters on a creature you control.

Something like that?

>>53847191
Jesus fuck no

>>53847191

I do think that would need to be worded in some way that made it part of the cost, because otherwise you run into "well, I can't put counters on creatures I don't have" in a "why run creatures when I can run more 1 mana 3 damage cards?" deck.

>>53846854
the story is bolas fucks everyone real good.

>>53847205
Yeah, needs a more solid drawback. If wotc were smart, they would have printed something like "R, discard a card: deal 3 damage to target creature/player" during Shadows over Innistrad.

>>53847205
>"why run creatures when I can run more 1 mana 3 damage cards?"

How do you plan on winning then?

I think the trade-off is kinda interesting. Like you might sequence your plays oddly to kill creatures your opponent has so your creatures don't get the buff. Or just run creatures that like the -1/-1 counter theme.

>>53847205

>As an additional cost to LBWAD, place two -1/-1 counters on a creature you control

There.

>Deadly Bolt - R
>As an aditional cost, deal 3 damage to you or put three -1/-1 counters to target creature you control.
>Deadly Bolt deals 3 damage to target creature or player.

>>53847249
This looks solid

>>53847215
Yeah duh. but I want the details. WHY does he fuck everyone so much. I though the plane was his personal planes walker factory. Gotta be a reason for him to bring it all to dust.

>>53847249
Is it an Instant or a Sorcery? Because that matters a lot. Can I put the counter on my creature after it's blocked for free value?

>>53847268
>WHY does he fuck everyone so much

Because he's Nicol Bolas, his life revolves around fucking everything over and being smug about it.

>>53847268
We dont know his plan yet. I dont even remember if it was said why he fucked amonkhet up the ass in first place yet.

>>53846861
I would say opposite, as scarabs have that curse trope makimg them a good ub and the locust fits the ur with the swarm and how red likes to destroy anything naturally like locusts

>>53847286
shit, forgot that

>Deadly Bolt - R
>Instant
>As an aditional cost, deal 3 damage to you or put three -1/-1 counters to target creature you control.
>Deadly Bolt deals 3 damage to target creature or player.
Flavor text
>"Careful with that Chandra, unless you want to hurt your friends or even youself."
>Nicol Bolas, to Chandra Nalaar

>>53847314
Scarab is gunna be ub, they already have black cards with scarabs in amonkhet.

>>53847298
The blue ore the mummies are mining do something...

>>53847333
That's why it would be black... Because scarabs feast sets the tone for scarabs being black colored

>>53847336
One of the spoilers came so close to revealing but just barelt didnt ezplain enough. Im thinking the ore lazotep covers the undead worthy and makes them more powerful or somerhing? I dunno man.

>>53844277
I will still play all of them in limited.

>>53847327
Soo if I have no creatures, I have to hurt myself to cast it? Lame
Just bring back LS

>Flavor Text
4/10 kiddo, even my 8 y/o cousin would do it better.

>>53847358

Yes, that seems to be the time worn saying for shitty cards: "It's good in limited/made for limited".

>>53847295
Yeah duh. But he is meticulous. If something is useful he lets it live until its use has run out. If Amonkets use has run out then what was the use in the first place. They didn't explain shit in the first block. We have like five different possibilities.

>>53847268

Well, we know the apocalypse wasn't set to start until he accomplished something else. Tezzeret just finished his mission on Kaladesh, which wasn't as successful as hoped but still let him come away with a functional planar portal.

Planeswalker factory was always a bit of a long shot, since despite 'walkers being a little more common than advertised for plot's sake the odds of the city actually producing enough to be worth the effort were always long. It does, however, seem to have produced a staggeringly large army of horror-zombies that obey Nicol Bolas that he is now capable of transporting enmasse off the doomed plane he made and stored them on.

I do feel like it'd be good to see a little expansion on what Bolas's endgame is, though. While reclaiming his godlike powers is a perfectly serviceable motivation for his villainy I would like to see a little more about what kind of goals Bolas has when he's all-powerful again. I don't feel like he'd go to all this effort just to lie back and occasionally fuck with people for shits and giggles once he's got his full powers back.

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>>53845474
>3WW for a 4/4 doublestrike on the other hand is far more reasonable.
No... That's still garbage. Why would you say that?

>>53847369
Well, as far as I can tell that's the only thing worth playing other than janky casual constructed so, eh.

>>53843463
>God
>not indestructible
hmm

>>53847400
5 mana 4/4 double strike is fucking fine you idiot

>>53847349
Just like how chandra sets up fire as being red, or how hydroblast makes water a part of blue. Now you're getting it.

>>53847388
>I don't feel like he'd go to all this effort just to lie back and occasionally fuck with people for shits and giggles once he's got his full powers back

I do. That fits him perfectly. Once he know that there is absolutely nothing that can ever touch him. He would totally just sit back and fuck with different planes if only because he could.

>>53847388
I just want him to kill samut and use her spark for muh plot

>>53847327
good commander card

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>>53847327
Congratulations /tg/: you're better designers than WotC

>>53847413

These ARE the three gods that got rekt by Bolas so hard they don't even have NAMES anymore, to be fair.

>>53844277
Its removal for limited for chrissakes. They literally just printed push two sets ago.

>>53847488

This is spoiler season. Bitchin' is tradition.

>>53847117
Checks are the comfiest duals without subtypes types.

>>53847327
What about
Deadly Bolt deals 3 damage to target creature or player. That player or that creature's controller scrys 2.

>>53847443
>giving 5-8 LB to modern babies

Fuck no, Burn'd be too strong with that.

>>53847146
>New Sorcery Lightning Bolt at Mythic.
>MaRo will claim it's Mythic to not upset Pauper, not because Burn is the cheapest competitive deck in Modern and Legacy and they need to up that pricetag.

>>53847488
And this is why theyre going to one set in a block. Nobody fucking wants these cuckbolts but if they printed lightining bolt constantly then we would get bored so they change it up. Less sets means less excuses to print cuckbolts and bigger ramifications for not printing viable bolts.

>>53847503
since when shocking people with a burst of lightning makes them think?

>>53847509
>5-8 LB
This is actually 13-16 lightning bolts, or more depending on if they're mono-red or not. This is also one of the more conditional bolts in Burn, tbqh.

>>53847520
It makes them think 'oh fuck I shouldn't have fucked with bolas' and thus reconsider what they're doing.

>>53847543

I feel like "oh fuck I shouldn't have fucked with Bolas" tends to be the last thing most people who fuck with Bolas ever think. Beyond that there's no brain to do the thinking WITH.

>>53847518
It's a limited card you idiot. These work perfectly fine in that environment. Not every burn spell can be lightning bolt, literally the best red spell in the game.

>>53847443
>Situationally better Collateral Damage
Hmm.

>>53847518
We're having exactly the same ammount of sets.
And we're actually getting more cards so we'll be seeing even more limited shitter contnent.

>>53847555
Well, that's what happens when you bolt a critter with it.
Or you bolt a player with it for game, because they won't lose until the spell finishes resolving and the scrying is mandatory. They get to scry 2 and THEN lose due to having 0 or less life!

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>>53847520
I always figured that was what was going on with Electrolyze. Except you're running the lightning through your brain BEFORE shooting it at the other guy.

>>53845574
> scarab god
> has bones

What did they mean by this?

>>53846827
Oh yeah people are totally going to be able to tell you need white mana to kick that.

>>53847117
I just want a full cycle of duals that stay in standard so I can play without shelling $40 for a manabase every rotation.

>>53847327
Try
>"Careful with that Chandra. Someone might get hurt."
And a picture of Nissa getting scarred while Chandra throws a fireball.

>>53847645
The common cycle appears to be evergreen.

>>53847605
They're not anthros, they're humanoids with animal heads. Except the locust, that guy is fucked.

>>53847671
>the common cycle
He meant lands, not steaming unusable turds.

>>53847605

The gods mostly appear to be human giants with bestial heads, from what we've seen.

So this is a long, long dead divine giant with an insectoid head.

>>53847605
>>53847696
Back in Nissa's POV story, all the Gods were said to be Birds, Reptiles and Mammals. So, not only did Bolas fuck up with them mentally, but also physically.

>>53847721

Some of the twitter commentary about Scorpion when he showed up did include the phrase "[Bolas] built them to be bruisers" or something like that.

I wonder if he really went so far as ripping three existing gods apart and then putting what was left of them back together in a form more convenient to his needs.

>>53845484
>conditional 4/2 for 3 with trample
I might make mono-green stompy. I miss THS-KTK block too much.

>>53846613
my NIGGER
I've done the same thing and I thought the same thought when I opened the thread!

>>53847744
Reread the last story, he rewrote the planar leylines that allow the gods to exist as they do. He literally scrabled these 3 in his image.

>>53845305
>red is mindless
Another guy who should work for WOTC.

>>53845484
Ooh, fake Flametongue Kavu. That's exciting, even if the condition is awkward in that you have to play questionable lands.

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>>53844288

>Every red card that gets printed is just for draft so don't complain when red is entirely unplayable

>>53847744
I could see Bolas doing that. Also it looks like he put that weird Lazotep stuff on Scarab God.
So the plan seems to be create massive army of elite warrior zombies and Gods. Then use a planar portal like the one on Kaladesh to transport the army from plane to plane. Probably why Tezzeret specified the portal be large enough to let a Gearhulk pass through, so Bolas could bring the Gods with him. Maybe the Lazotep helps keep the undead together while traveling?

>>53847591
Remember Izzets have the Firemind and can take it.

>>53847935
>when mono-red is entirely unplayable
Fixed that for you pal.
That said, the fact that mono-color decks are virtually non-existant anymore makes me incredibly sad.

>>53845511

>Eternalize was somehow even more boring than even the most boring ideas thrown around on /tg/

How is Wizards so shit?

How is it possible to be this terrible of a company?

>>53847972
prophetic bolt says hi

>>53846613
I just want some more support for B/G -1/-1 in standard. So far there isn't enough to make it strong.

>>53848000
Was getting mad before I saw your spoiler. Not everyone wants to play decks that are always three colors. It's bad enough we're to the point where we have to play decks that are stacked with mythics.

>>53844277
Traditionally, 3 damage for 2R has come with an upside. I feel like I'm fine with Open Fire as long as it's a once in a while thing and not the new baseline for burn spells.

>>53848062

The most fun I've had in standard was playing a mono-red aggro deck back around when Origins came out.

Cheap as chips and could handily sweep FNM on a good day.

>>53848078
I know it's old news now, but do you have the decklist? Just for shits and giggles.

>>53848096

4 Monastery Swiftspear
4 Infectious Bloodlust
4 Dragon Mantle
4 Akroan Crusader
4 Satyr Hoplite
4 Hammerhand
4 Titan's Strength
4 Abbot of Keral Keep
4 Temur Battle Rage
2 Coordinated Assault
4 Lightning Berserker
18 Mountain

2 Coordinated Assault
2 Scouring Sands
4 Wild Slash
3 Twin Bolt
2 Roast
2 Akroan Line Breaker

>>53844277
Yunno, I know why they don't put random shit like Scry 1 or Cycling 5R on cards like this - they've said it is inelegant. But for fucks sake they should do it anyways.

That's just me. I cube. I like building low-powered archetypes. And it wouldn't fucking kill them to add big fat stupid cycling costs to these cards.

>>53848135
>to add big fat stupid cycling costs
Kinda defeats the pupose of cycling, and they don't like to put cycling on kill spells either as people simply don't cycle them even when it's correct to do so.

>>53848110
Seems like a fun casual deck, anon. I don't play standard anymore but can you build simple fun decks like this anymore?

>>53848160
Right, you have valid points. But in spite of that, I just want them to fill the fucking text box.

There's no room to be creative when all you print is one-dimensional crap.

>>53847216
Lightning axe?

>>53848242
doesn't hit face

>>53847413
But they also don't have conditions to attack or block so that kind of offsets the loss of indestructible

>>53848255
touche

>>53846674
The entire boon cycle were overpowered save for white.
Even Giant Growth is the most efficient green trick.

I'm angry nagas are a thing and they're not snakes.

>>53846423
>Lightning bolt is too strong. Lightning bolt warps every environment it's in.
Fuck you. Alara-Zendikar standard was awesome.
This game needs one mana elves, bolts, doom blades, LD, cheap burn, 4 mana wraths and 2 mana counterspells. What it doesn't really need is more planeswalkers.

>>53848476
When you add all those things, that's all the game is.

All these people talking about bolt , i don't see what the problem with lightning strike was. I would have liked it to become a regular thing

>>53848495
All those are things are better compared to Planeswalkers and ETB creatures filling the board and the game starting at turn 3.

>>53846674
>comparing a format with Force of Will to a format without Force of Will
Smart.

>>53848352
Yeah, shame it doesn't see play in any competitive format.
>>53848604
How is FoW even relevant scrub?

>>53845562
HOLY FUCK
I need those lands

>>53848604
If you're using Force on a Bolt, you've probably already lost.

>>53848000
We just got done with a Standard that had three mono-color decks that were doing really well. Give it some time.

>>53848656
>>53848709
I thinks he's saying that the existence of force of will in a format warps it so much that comparing it to other formats isn't a good comparison, but he had some faggot compulsion to use greentext rather than voice an actual argument

>>53848604
Nobody FoWs Stoneforge, Deathrite, Bob or Thalia, we Bolt them,

>>53848865
Hey now, certain decks also swords them.

Never have I felt the urge to build a commander deck as strongly as this. I think B/R -1/-1 counter strategy was mediocre at best before, but this guy turns all that into straight card advantage. Scorpion God + Nest of Scarabs + Blowfly Infestation = Draw as many cards as you want for 3 mana provided you already have at least one scarab. See you on TappedOut, fuckers.

>>53843463
And here I was worried that going Jund for my -1/-1 counter deck instead of BG was the wrong choice.

But now I know I made the right choice.

>>53849331
Don't forget Cauldron of Souls and Miakeus shenanigans. Murderous Redcap too, for good measure.

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>>53849385
Contagion Engine, Crumbling Ashes, there's too many great ways to abuse this effect to count.

>>53847520

People used lightning to foretold shit in greece and rome.

Also, being hit by lightning and surviving was kind of a "divine sign" shit

>>53845511
khenra scrapper's flavor text is pretty good

>>53843463
>featuring Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson in his first full length feature film

>>53845522
Is it just me or is this actually a good boardwipe for commander? Costs the same as Planar Cleansing, and sometimes its three.

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>>53846793
I thought the invocations were ugly af at first but when I got to see one in person, it actually looks pretty cool.

>>53849776
>sometimes
way too often actually, it takes no time to reach 10 permanents when playing 4 players.

>>53849776
Looks pretty great to me. I'm starting to wonder how many of these things can get printed before you can run a monowhite deck that's nothing but lands, indestructible permanents, and wraths.
>>53849921
Makes me wonder of all the people who have bitched but will never see one. I know I never will, but I don't go to tournaments or have rich friends. How common are these things outside of kitchen table and in the real world of magic?

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>>53843463
>>53849485
So with all the Eventide/Shadowmoor -1/-1's we pretty much agree that the Scorpion is ___Lord___ of Cinders

>>53849776

Nobody plays planar cleansing

>>53843463
I like it.

>>53845484
Oh, as a tribalfag I'm happy that, even if dinosaur will get their cancerous subtype, i have those ncie ebasts to play with!

>>53846423
>Any creature that fails the bolt test becomes borderline unplayable
I don't care if this is an 8-hour old post, the bolt test is straight fucking bullshit. Let's name off some creatures that fail the bolt test
Deathrite Shaman
Noble Hierarch
Wild Nacatl
Delver of Secrets
Dark Confidant
Monastery Swiftspear
Goblin Guide
Scavenging Ooze
Young Pyromancer
Birds of Paradise
Note that I have omitted creatures which provide some value the moment they hit play, if we wanted to list those there's
both Thalias
Snapcaster
Vendilion Clique
Kitchen Finks
Bloodbriad Elf
Stoneforge Mystic
Baleful Strix

Apparently far less conditional removal like Path of Exile and Thoughtsieze are just fine but 3 direct damage is too much. Anyone who thinks the bolt test is a legitimate way to measure creature viability is a fucking retard

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>>53846793
Just pritn the cards normally instead of baiting us with your special snowflake versions you quintuple niggers.

>>53850510
Wow, it's almost like every one but three of these cost just as much mana as the bolt. And on top of that ooze and bob see marginal play and pyromancer has effectively an etb ability.

>>53850510
i think the bolt test mostly applies to creatures of 3 CMC and up that need to be alive on the board to do their thing

if a 2 mana dork gets blown up by a bolt, that's not an awful trade and there's only so many bolts in someone's deck

>>53850596
So Path is completely fair at unconditional 1-mana removal but 3 damage for 1 mana isn't?
Thoughtseize, Beast Within, Mana Leak, O-ring, even fucking Cast Out can knock out Eldrazi sized creatures AND noncreature permanents but apparently red is the only color that needs to ascribe to the "removal must cost as much as the thing it removes" rule.

>>53850652
Path will never get reprinted, not gonna respond anymore since you're clearly a scrub.

>>53850652
Path to Exile, Thoughtseize, and Beast Within are all cards that won't be reprinted in Standard for the foreseeable future. Oblivion Ring is a card that will never be seen in Standard again, only its fixed variant Banishing Light may.

Mana Leak.. could see it. But that's blue being blue.

>>53850674
>This card that disproves my argument will never be reprinted, see Wizards recognizes their mistakes
>it's been reprinted twice
>it's still Modern legal
but sure, I'm the scrub because I think Lightning Bolt is an acceptably powered card

Do people seriously expect every bit of red Limited removal to be as good as Lightning Bolt?

This is like expecting every White "exile X creature" to be as good as Path or Swords.

>>53850752
Magma spray was LITERALLY just reprinted in Amonkhet. Apparently 1 more damage costs 2 more colorless mana and can't have the exile on death clause

>>53850752
Not necessary, but the wither bolt is a good exemple of "not lightning bolt but not completely garbage too". They should try something different, not just a dumbed down version.

>>53850732
It has never been reprinted scrub.

>>53844277
Lightening bolt was better.

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>>53850788
am I being memed?

>>53850799
I can't believe that this is just how bad /tg/ is at magic nowadays.

>>53845632
>bamalam you say?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fUXYiY0xqg

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>>53846435
You're not paying attention. Not everyone dies, we see it on the two known green nagas in the set, they're rebuilding Amonkhet after the Bolasgeddon.

>>53846843
BORING

>>53847146
God what a chav.

>>53848604
>FoWing Bolt
Retard detected

>>53850510
>Thinking all those creatures fail the bolt test
Retard detected

>>53850799
None of those are Standard legal so it's irrelevant scrub

>>53847422
Wrong. Bolas never had enough even as an oldwalker. His lust for power is endless and he will never stop trying to accumulate it.

>>53847517
They never design with pauper in mind.

>>53850940
What's boring is a game that has to rely on the same cards for every deck. If those decks need them, reprint them. Or print something better or different enough to replace them.

>>53848073
It's not. Shock is the baseline and has been for a very long time. The lightning bolt experiment didn't go quite as well as they planned so they went back to shock.

>>53848476
Counterpoint: That standard was a horrendous mess.

>>53851039
BOOOOOOORRRRRRIIIIINNNNNGGGGG

>>53850023
I got one in some packs I won at a draft. Pretty lucky considering I've opened two inventions as well. (I never buy packs outside of prerelease and drafting)

>>53851086
Don't worry, you can have fun using your new rare lands coming with their own new soon-to-be-forgotten mechanic.

Is lightning strike too much to fucking ask?

>>53850510

don't be retarded anon, look up the bolt test first

>>53851132
Even Shock would be good at this point.

>>53851153
But Shock's in standard already.

>>53851153
Shock is already legal in standard why would they print it again :^)

>>53844277
Why are creatures allowed to be 6/5 unkillable for 5 mana, but lightning bolt is too good?

>>53851187
Every color in standard has a way of permanently exiling the Scorpion King.

So what was Bolas trying to do on Amonkhet?

>>53851207
White has cast out, Red has Magma Spray + Damage, Black can exile it from the Graveyard. How Green and Blue get rid of it? You can Void Shatter it or Dissalow it going back, but that dosen't count.

>>53851265
Oh, just remembered that blue got Song of Dryads. Nevermind Blue.

>>53844277
reeeeeeeeeeeee
Just let me play RDW. I know this card is for limited, but would it kill them to print some semi playable burn? I remember back when I could play magma jet and lightning strike with young pyro, and now we get shit like this.

>>53851260
Produce an expansive army of well-trained zombies, apparently. There's also a substance on Amonkhet called lazorite he was putting people to excavate for him.

>>53850023
well the rarity of them got easier, the back of the pack changed to 1:1935 for a masterpiece.
Own a bontu invocation and at first I didn't mind them, but having one, they are really nice. However they could have changed some things to make it more appealing ie the scheme cards from bolas i think would have been cool for them.

>>53851383
magma spray? it may be 2 dmg but burn + exile isn't something to sneeze at

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>>53851383
RDW is actually pretty strong with Hazoret, Consuming Favor, Flameblade Adept, Insolent Neonate and Madness cards.

It might just be your last chance to play it before rotation.

>>53849385
>>53849485
And blowfly infestation

>>53851090
Ugh. That's the kind of story that makes suckers like me want to crack a pack when I'm at the checkout stand and the boosters are staring me in the face. Fuck you.
What is this? Is this an artists custom card art over his own art?

>>53851891
Meant to quote you, here, sorry.
>>53852087

>>53851891
Eh, pretty cool alteration. Usually not into this but a full altered Kamigawaesque deck would be fun.

>>53851265
blue has imprisoned in the moon, or Commit + counter spell

>>53847216
there was Fiery Temper

Stupid idea after seeing the scar of extinction card
T1- land.
T2- Land, any rock
T3- Land, boros reckoner
T4- Land, seething song, rock tap, Scar of extinction, reckoner hits face for 20.

>>53852087
Yep, that's it.

>>53851187

Because instants and sorceries really are that much better than creatures

Creatures do nothing the turn you play them, and they can be negated by your opponents interaction

The only way to interact with damage to the face is counterspells and some niche stuff like damage prevention

The history of magic shows this to be true, it has taken quite a bit of pushing creatures and nerfing instants and sorceries to get them even close to equal, they've gone a little too far bt they weren't THAT far off

>>53852606
But creatures stick around and keep doing things. Add in haste, and even on the turn they come in. Not a fair comparison.

Damage to the face is supposed to be hard to negate, that's the fucking point of it. The point is that you can spend all your turns setting up like it's casual battleship commander, but a few bolts to the face mean that you shouldn't have been faffing about.

>>53852656

Look man, the scorpion King guy is not like to be played in any format, whereas every deck in standard has at least a couple instants and sorceries that look a bit underwhelming at first glance

There's just no denying that getting all your value instantly is inherently superior to playing something you hope will slowly win you the game, that's why the latter must be pushed harder in mana efficiency and overall potential

Just look at any format, cheap efficient instants and sorceries absolutely and incontrovertibly dominate wherever they appear. In order to compete, creatures have to have ridiculous p/t like tarmogoyf or goblin guide or toolcraft exemplar or heart of kiran, or they need to be essentially sorceries that have p/t added on for extra value

>>53852738
Name one current standard deck that doesn't have creatures. I'll wait.

Now name one standard deck that doesn't use enchantments, AKA the TRUE cucked cardtype.

>>53852738
It's supposed to be a Commander.

>>53852771

There's the new perspectives deck that doesn't cast any creatures, bt anyway you're moving the goalposts, I already agreed that wotc went too far and now creatures are finally good enough to be better than instants and sorceries, my argument is that inherently instants and sorceries are better than creatures, by a huge margin, and that's why you have all these creatures with gaudy text boxes that seem pushed beyond belief but still don't see play anywhere, meanwhile an instant like lightning bolt can see a series of progressively weaker versions printed all the time and every single one will see play (this new 3 mana bolt is finally weak enough to not see standard play I think)

And by the way you're totally right about enchantments, by far the weakest card type

>>53852797

Okay I stand corrected, almost every legendary sees some commander play, so you're right

I don't think he'll be making any waves in commander though

>>53852834
You know, I actually see what you're saying now and I agree. When I look back at how the first set plays, I can really see what you mean. I would argue that it's only some types of instants and sorceries that really tilt the scales though. Creatures wouldn't be inherently bad if removal didn't exist. At the exact same time there's a lot of effects that are really only suited to instants and sorceries that are just lackluster and underpowered despite being complicated and fun mechanics that belong in the game. Same with Enchantments again, even more so I would argue. I guess that's just more WOTC not knowing how to balance for shit. And we could debate the merit of the game revolving around removal all day and night. A lot of people think it's a blight, others see that type of card interaction as the core of the game, a lot of people see it as a necessary evil.

>>53853067

Yeah the thing about creatures is the same thing I was saying about lightning bolt applies to them, but in reverse. If you go back in time, people were playing more instants and sorceries yes but almost every deck had at least a couple creatures because they are a privileged card type in being naturally suited to winning the game. So even when the best creature available was something underwhelming like a stalking stones, it still say play

Mtg decks require an interplay of the card types, and I think that's one reason why wotc and Maro hate storm so much (besides it being a solitaire deck), because storm is all instants and sorceries and doesn't give a single fuck about the other card types

I think wotc will figure it out over time, they don't even have to stop printing amazing creatures they just need to bring back some of the more solid instants and sorceries like mana leak and lightning strike and preordain and things would be more balanced, they don't need to go all the way back to lightning bolt and counterspell to make spells equal to creatures

>>53853382
I think they've gone too far on creature *value* specifically.
Too many creatures are just replacements/upgrades to sorceries.

>>53854107
I'm not quite sure on this one

>>53854223
Ditto
It has some flexibility at least?

>>53847225
>how do you plan on winning without creatures?!

So was it Origins? Return to Zendikar? Maybe even Kaladesh? When did you start playing?

>>53845562
>Gideons defeat
Holy fuck yes I hope this never leaves standard as long as gideon is in it. fuck that piece of trash mechanic.

>>53854107
I've seen worst...

>>53846806

Why Blood Moon when its a sun?

>>53854482
There are two suns, but does that mean there's no moon?

>>53847443
flavor text: "...or even YOUSELF"

its fucked up

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>>53843463

>>53850777
i would say the R for 3 damage is the dumbed down version... it defines any card among it, if they can't survive 3 damage they are shit.... and older magic cards are known to be stupidly broken. There is a reason power 9 should never be reprinted... stupid powerful effects for no cost

>>53847443
No

>>53854246
The fexibility does make it interesting in a control deck. A Mana Leak during your opp's turn and if they don't cast anything relevant you cast it as an Impulse.
Might not be a great card, but not bad either.

>>53846845
Yamabushi's flame would like a word with you.

>>53854720
You know you've made a design error when you have to caption the card right about the name printed on the card when you reveal it.

>>53846725
Wizards prefer printing shit cycles and never reprinting the ones they got right (filters, shocks, enemy check lands ect) because if they reprint them some collector out there will throw a wobbly over their pieces of cardboard not being worth as much.

People who sit on binders full of stuff like force of will and duals are what kill this game for me, the reserve list is a mistake and so is Wizard's inability to give players what they want.

>>53854943
Wizards has some weird obsession with supporting Allied lands for Frontier. So far the enemy Fastlands are a peculiar outlier.

>>53854983
>Wizards
>Supporting Frontier
kek

>>53855011
Haven't you noticed that ever since they started using the new frames there have been several distinct shifts in the design paradigm? There are the bones of the format being put in place.

The community pulled the trigger on Frontier way too early, but there's no denying that WotC has been developing the recent sets of Magic for the sake of a new format.

>>53854983
>Wizards has some weird obsession with supporting Allied lands for Frontier.

It's not for frontier, it's just wizards' retarded logic of "hurr enemy colours must have less fixing despite the game being so far away from apocolypse game design durr".

MaRo's brain tumour can't come soon enough, the quicker that fucker is gone from this game the better.

>>53855091
If that was the case they would not have reprinted lighting bolt.

>>53848210
Yes.
I put together a cheap mono-red deck that gets under most things.
It's not especially fun to play for me since it's so basic, but I use it every now and then, usually when the control players at my LGS start getting uppity.
I normally play jund gods, though I've been working out some way to turn it into naya. No luck so far as the biggest obstacle is losing all the removal.

>>53845604
The locust could also potentially be BB

>>53855091
It doesn't have anything to do with MaRo.
Left to his own devices, MaRo is responsible for things like Tinker, Yawgmoth's Bargain, and the Untap X Lands spells. Unfiltered MaRo is a wild ride.

>>53847913
>WOTC ever printing more locuses
I have a deck that runs 8 and even I know that would be a bad idea. Theres a reason they're banned.

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>>53849921
The one thing about invocations is a lot of the neat effect comes from the matte finish on the borders and glossy foil finish of the art. The details of which are instantly lost the instant you sleeve it. Kind of a shame, really.

I also really don't like how the art is so fucking small. They should've designed them to be full art.

It's also a shame about the gods dying. I liked Hazoret and Oketra, and poor Bontu went all "SENPAI PLEASE NOTICE ME" before dying.

>>53855180
The Bolt reprint is just going to be an Invocation.

>>53851891
That is a nice fucking alter.

>>53855091
>>53855236
Unfiltered Maro is Time Spiral block.
Take that as you will.

>>53850924
How are they rebuilding it? I thought there were legions of horrors and other shit out in the desert. How'd they defeat them all with Bolas giving everyone rectal exams at the same time?

>>53855252
It's Chain Lightning

>>53855314
>not Lightning Storm

>>53855091
> WotC thinks enemy lands need less fixing
> dual lands produced in
> M15
> Origins
> Battle
> Shadows
> Kaladesh
Hmm...

>>53855236
>doesn't have anything to do with MaRo

It's well known by now that he hates anything that isn't his idea, which is why he constantly get butthurt at things like commander precons.

>>53855272
Time spiral was pretty bad, I played standard during that time and most of the decks were 80% ravnica cards.

Timespiral's biggest appeal was the nostalgia.

>>53855356
>reprint of decade old cards
>reprint of decade old cards
>finishing a cycle that should've been finished when the first 5 were released
>implying shadows had good enemy fixing lands
>finishing a cycle that should've been finished when the first 5 were released

Wow, it's almost like enemy colour pairs have to wait a good 5 years to get the lands that ally colours had access to ages ago.

Yet whenever they print a full cycle of 10 fixing lands people are much more hype.

In about 5-7 years time we'll get enemy cycling duals, so fair and equal.

>>53855432
>he constantly get butthurt at things like commander precons

You make it sound like he's butthurt at the concept of the precons. He gets butthurt about cards like Song of the Dryads or Chaos Warp because the design philosophy behind them is "how can we let this color deal with something it's not allowed to deal with?".

>>53854107
I love it, and it could easily see standard play.

>>53855528
But of course he was okay with blue getting imprison in the moon.

>reee no fun allowed! Muh colour pie must be adhered to at all times!

This is why design space space and sets have become so stale.

Instead of mechanics and concepts selling packs, these days it's bells and whistles and lottery cards.


The game keeps continuing it's downward spiral, yet for some reason the company expects the same team that's contributed to this shitshow to be able to turn it around after proving time and time again they can't.

Wizards thinks this next standard shake up will turn this around for the better, it won't because changing the number of cards you print wont change the archaic minds of the people designing them.

Magic is fucked while the old guard are still around, they're already getting slaughtered on the digital market because of the refusal to adapt and are only getting by on being the oldest card game when it comes to paper at this point.

>>53855432
>It's well known by now that he hates anything that isn't his idea, which is why he constantly get butthurt at things like commander precons.
That's actually an idea that /tg/ will spout over and over again because you're all butthurt faggots and want someone to yell at.

If you don't like Standard, fuck off. If you don't like the design of Magic, fuck off. You have Vintage and Legacy and to an extent Modern to play around in where Magic is still powerful and "pure".

But we all know you're here forever. :)

>>53855619
>But of course he was okay with blue getting imprison in the moon

Yeah, because it's fine.
It would not be fine if it could hit, say, Enchantments, because blue isn't allowed to do that.

>>53855619
You know, a lot of the things you're complaining about, they're actively trying to rectify. They've got a new playtest team that will work with r&d at all design stages. They're moving away from Justice League. The "power pendulum" which has been on a downward swing for a while is starting to rise again. They just announced big changes and some very exciting products coming up.

It's not perfect, and will take some time before we see real results, but things are changing for the better.

>>53855689
>MaRo shill telling people to fuck off

Great idea, let the game die quicker because we don't like you jewish overlord's ideas, if only he designed sets and cards as well as he blogs about inane shit while on his drive to work.

>don't play standard hurr durr

No one is playing standard, that's the whole point. Without a good standard enviroment the game dies because no one is buying new cards.

>tfw you like standard because you like playing with and against new decks on a regular basis
>tfw everyone else at my lgs just wants to play with/against the same handful of tier decks for eternity


>>53855738
I wonder how long until the new playtest team gets stretched thing and inbred like their old playtest team did?

>>53855798
>I wonder how long until the new playtest team gets stretched thing and inbred like their old playtest team did?

Give it 3 years, that is of course if some whistleblower doesn't expose them all for passing along info to their vendor contacts/friends.

>>53855794
>let the game die quicker

Reminder that Mirrodin was the best selling set of all time, then it was outsold by Return to Ravnica, then Return to Ravnica was outsold by Theros, then Theros was outsold by Battle for Zendikar, so on and so forth.

You are not WotC's only customer.

>>53855798
Hopefully never, but practically I expect them to be inbred from day 1. What they really need is multiple, independent playtest teams who have the ability to say when an idea is terrible. Something like independent contractors. But, WotC are a bunch of cheapskates who wouldn't pay people to do that.

>>53855857
I don't buy packs anymore, after I stopped playing 60 card formats I didn't see the need to, especially with Wizards being the way they are (hurr make this character trans for extra brownie points, hire a diversity writer!).

I might not be WotC's customer anymore on a regular basis, but I've been playing this game most of my life now and I hate how utterly horrible the state of the game is right now.

>>53850711
Pardon my ignorance, but what is the diference between Oblivion Ring and Banishing Light?

>>53855922
Oblivion Ring has two triggers: one ETB, one LTB. You can abuse this by bouncing/destroying/whatever the oblivion ring with the ETB trigger on the stack.

Cards like Banishing Light only have one trigger and sets up a delayed clause for the same effect. It's not as abusable S ORing.

>>53855913
Saying "I don't like it" is a whole lot different than:
>The game keeps continuing it's downward spiral
>let the game die quicker
>No one is playing standard

Magic as a product is currently doing fine.
Equating your level of satisfaction to the health of the game is extremely self centered.

>>53856009
>Magic as a product is currently doing fine.

Sure, if you're playing Modern or Legacy, the two formats that aren't really negatively impacted by the current state of design.

If everything was going swimmingly we wouldn't be getting this huge overhaul in the next 12 months, obviously they don't think magic is doing fine.

As for my "let it die quicker" comments, those are in reply to retards telling people to stop playing the game and to just leave the hobby if they are not willing to take the current crop of terrible decisions.

Telling people to stop playing if they don't like it is how to accelerate the death of a game, instead of telling people to fuck off maybe try and find out what would get them back on board and spending cash on your product?

Standard numbers are at a very low point right now, they'll probably pick up again now marvel is banned but if you think standard is doing okay you're fucking delusional.

>>53855922
Oblivion Ring allows flicker tricks to permanently Exile permanents.
But he's mostly a Faggot. As Spellqueller has been released fairly recently and it also allows those tricks. Detention Sphere also isn't that old and allows it.
Blessed vs Cursed duel decks features flickering and Fiend Hunter. So it's almost impossible that Wotc hates this trick completely.

>>53856159
Oh, that looks cool.

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>>53856159
>pay 5 for a 4/4 double striker

I'm looking forward to getting btfo by this at prerelease.

>>53856003
>>53856187
Thanks for the explanations, anons.

>>53856159
Damn the actual art is fucking awesome for both. Is it just me or is that card really good? A 1/1 double striker early on is not bad, but being able to get a 4/4 double striker out of your graveyard later on is fucking insane. Right?

>>53856227
You are correct. Definitely a first/second pick in draft and a reason to play W in Sealed. Its an early blocker and a mid-late game bomb all in one.

>>53856159
Cat tribal here we come
5/5 double strike with life link

>>53856258
White is usually pretty good in limited, due to lifegain being invaluable.

>>53850652
Path can't hit you in the face

>>53856159
Was it really necessary to have such similar keywords back to back like this?

At least it's not more dumbass white zombies I suppose.

>>53846613
My nigga!

I literally started MTG some time ago and built my first deck around Hapatra. Super fun combined with Nest of Scarabs and other stuff that benefits from the -1/-1 counters.

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>>53856760
Get Necroskitters.

>>53856784
Looks awesome. Playable in modern, right?

>>53856838
Yep. Also consider Black Sun's Zenith, love that card.

>>53856838
Playable as in "you can technically play it in a modern deck"

>>53856187
They don't like it, because it's the kind of thing that feels like someone's trying to cheat you if you didn't already know about it.
So they don't print new cards that way unless they can't avoid it (like Spell Queller) but are willing to do reprints of old cards still that were written the old way around

>>53856838
Only one way to know, bring it to a tournament
Don't let your dreams be memes

>>53856858
>>53856892
Eh-heh. I get you.

>>53856856
This looks really cool too!

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>necroskitters + scarabs nest
>whenever the scarabs block you get another one for free