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PIRATE EDITION, GET IN HERE ME HEARTIES. WHO HERE /RAPE AND PILLAGE/

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>>53830280
Man, i really hope someone was compiling all those cards i was trying to decipher, cause that would suck to lose.

Bloodstained(?) F... - 2/3(?)B
Creature - Vampire? Knight
0/0(?)
Flash
~ enters the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter on it for each creature that died this turn.
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>>53830310

Paladin
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>>53830310
I'm gonna screenshot all the deciphers for safe keeping, just in case.
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Thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4NAtFoWMiY
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>>53830310
Try submitting them to Mythic Spoiler. I think they check the comments.
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>Grixis Pirate ft Kari Zev and special guests CLOUD PIRATES
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>>53830320
>>53830324
Nice catch

Have we seen a clearer Explore? The italics makes it slightly harder.

Deadeye(?) Tracker - B
Creature - Human Pirate
1/1
1B, T: Exile two target cards from an opponents graveyard. ~ explores. (Reveal the top card of your library. If it's a land (or creature?), put a +1/+1 counter on this creature. than put that card on top of your library or into your graveyard.)
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>>53830373
Woops, i fucked that all up, try 2.

(Reveal the top card of your library. Put that card into your hand f it's a land, otherwise, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature. than put the revealed card into your graveyard.)

I think thats closer
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>>53830373

Man you are really bad at this

I already did this one last thread

Explore says reveal the top, put it into your hand if it's a land, otherwise put a +1/+1 on this creature then put the card back on top or into your gy
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>>53830280
Something Something - XWW
Instant
You gain X life. Put ~ on the bottom of its owner's library.

>>53830395
Yea, i totally botched that one.
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>>53830421
The name of that one is probably Sanguine Sacrament
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>>53830421
I think it's You gain twice X life.
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>>53830421
Last word looks like "Sacrament." First miiiight be "Sanguine?"
Also that card's pretty bad.
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>>53830427
It absolutely is. Looks like religion and blood sacrifice might be a big thing this set.
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>>53830280
>Vampire Conquistadors
>They don't look full Requiem: Chevalier Vampire, just normal pale dudes in normal armor.
If you're gonna villify Cortez at least go the extra mile.
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>>53830430
yup, that's right, i'm retarded.

>>53830427
>>53830432
Good catch on that, white has vampires so Sanguine makes total sense.

Sadly, i think that's all the ones from the somewhat clear page, the other is way too blurry for me to make out.
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>>53830421
Sanguine Sacrament

Up your squint game. I had two rows of cards read hours ago.
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>>53830421
Let's see if I can't crack that flavor text.

"As the sun sets to make way for dawn, so we turn to darkness to bring about the [something] salvation."
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>>53830456
We don't know it's vilification yet, it could just be a statement on the parasitic nature of pre-industrial colonialism.
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So did we stop talking about hostage taker? Do we have an infinite etb payoff in standard right now?
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>>53830430
At best it might see play in EDH with infinite mana combos. Renewed Faith is almost always better when X > 4 and that's never played.

>>53830463
>[something]
I think it's "coming."
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Think i got closer on the name, and anons helped on the creature types.
Dusk Fleet Rampager - 3BB
Creature - Orc Pirate Wizard
Menace, deathtouch
4/4
When ~ enters the battlefield each player loses a third of his or her life, rounded up.
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>>53830489
I think it's "cumming."
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>>53830489

Renewed is actually played because it has cycling
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>>53830447
They better give me vampire titties this set after the hijabing of Innistrad.
If pirates and vampires don't show some cleavage I'll spend the rest of my life spamming mislabeled porn images with their character's names until everyon who googles Jace Beleren gets a promotion.
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>>53830489
I mean even the best life gain spells see next to no competitive play. Still, XWW for 2 life is a garbage rate. By far the worst rare you could open in draft or sealed I'd Say.
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Rowdy(?) Crew - 2RR
Creature - Human Pirate
3(?)/1
Trample
When ~ enters the battlefield, draw three cards then discard two at random. If two cards that share a card type are discarded this way, put two +1/+1 counters on ~.


I think we got pretty close on this one now.
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>>53830511
Last life gain anything I remember seeing play was Kitchen Finks.
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MTGS is on damage control.

Rev up those reading glasses
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>>53830520
I mean, if you staple lifegain onto a decent card, it generally does get better.
Thragtusk, Lightning Helix, Siege Rhino.

Then you have things like soul sisters, or various "infinite life" engines, like via spike feeder.
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>>53830508
Not much in this standard except fridge decks. Good way back with Astral Slide though.
>>53830520
Batterskull too if you want to count that, but both of those are more than just lifegain spells.
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>>53830520

Lifegain is great when it comes tacked onto a perfectly good card (kitchen finks, thragtusk, baneslayer Angel), using a whole card just to gain life makes no sense because if you have no board control then you probably aren't even buying much time with your lifegain, you're still getting beat down
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>>53830492
So close to being a good Death's Shadow buddy, but that mana cost is way too high. At least it looks fun in EDH.

>>53830518
I still think it looks like a 5/1.

>>53830520
Kitchen Finks is good because for three mana you get 4 life and 5/3 worth of stats.
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>>53830531

How sad do you have to be to care this much about preserving spoiler season? After how many years of spoiler season getting ruined by leaks?
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>>53830554
Could be a 5, your definitely right that i was wrong before, but i think its too blurry for me to be sure.

That said, 5/1 actually makes more sense, since its a WAY worse draw engine than i originally thought.
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>>53830564
It's not really a draw engine, but it does cycle at least.
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>>53830557
This one huge ass leak though.
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>>53830488
>So did we stop talking about hostage taker? Do we have an infinite etb payoff in standard right now?

2 card combo can only get you infinite energy.

Panharmonicon would let you bounce another card infinite times also which is easy to win with.
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>Scar of Extinction, 5RR, Mythic
>Destroy target land. ~ deals 20 damage to each creature and each planeswalker.
Now THAT'S what I call red.
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>>53830488
Hostage Taker is guaranteed to either come after a rules change to how 'until' triggers work, or is going to be errata'd. They're not going to print a card that autodraws when cast on an empty board
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>>53830492
>orcs are back.

FUCK'N YESSSSS
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>>53830518
Its not Rowdy crew. But it looks something loreish.
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So we've got

BRU pirates
UG merfolk
WGR dinosaurs
BW vampire knights?

Is there anything I'm leaving out?
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>>53830557
>>53830617
Yeah for real, someone legit shat the bed with this one. i've been playing since m14 and it's the worst leak i've seen yet, i've heard apparently that new phyrexia was just as bad though.
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>>53830531
That guy and the mods are utter faggots and massive SJWs but they're a couple in the spoiler thread that clearly come here and were also trying to decipher the cards because fuck the corporate circus.
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what's the deal with the planeswalker
has someone deciphered it yet?
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>>53830669
not that i can tell.
how interesting however that the tribes thusfar are enemy pairs and allied shards.
cool contrast if you ask me.
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>>53830557
Faggots still believe New Phyrexia undersold because of the spoiler and not because of the global economic crisis.
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>>53830622
Ninth Bridge Patrol gets you an infinitely big creature, but you need a 3rd creature (yours or opponents) to end the loop
Same for Thalia's Lieutenant, and Sanctifier of souls
Pious Evangel for infinite life
Nice janky esper deck right here
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>>53830694
Sucks that we get allied checklands, of all things, to complement these tribes. Aren't they all under $2 each?
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>>53830694
Maybe it's more WRUG Natives vs WBRU Invaders
Blackless vs Greenless fits the nature vs progress philosophical faggotry postmodernists staple on colonialism.
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>It's a "Tribe gets 1½ sets worth of support and is then dropped like hot garbage" episode

I hate this fucking show
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>>53830708

Ixalan is the rotation set, nothing before Kaladesh will be in Standard.
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>pandering to super normies by doing pirates and dinosaurs

Yeah, fuck this game. This is no longer the card game I once loved. Alara-Zendikar was the best Standard block.

>tfw will never pilot a deck like Jund ever again
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>>53830694
>>53830669
Another thing though, i realized that starting with OGW we've had a lot of tribal in basically every set moving forward. Think about it we've had eldrazi/ally tribal, werewolf/vamp/ human/spirits etc in innistrad, dwarfs/vehicles, and now zombie with a smidge of cat and minotaurs in amonkhet. and now here we are again with full on tribal again.

Is wizards really getting this desperate to try and sell packs? I'm not normally someone to cry magic is dying but shit that's alot of tribal in one set after the other.
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>>53830531
>W-won't someone please think of the multimillion dollar company!
The schadenfreude I'm feeling right now is so smug and intense it's giving me an erection. This is a rare treat for me, it's only been outshined by the Fappening.
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>>53830680
>i've been playing since m14 and it's the worst leak i've seen yet, i've heard apparently that new phyrexia was just as bad though.

There have been three sets which had every single card spoiled.
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>>53830757
>Alara-Zendikar was the best Standard block.
That's not Time Spiral/Lorwyn/Shadowmoor.
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>>53830771
holy shit, which ones?
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>>53830728
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>>53830531
>Dumb people: Those leaks are a disaster for the company and the games
>People that actually using their brains: Hype is good. Give me more hype.
>Business people: Let's organize """"leaks""""
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>>53830782
He had a point though, every set seems to throw a new tribe in and take up rare slots supporting it and then drop them. I doubt we'll see pirate ever again
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>>53830757
>Alara-Zendikar was the best Standard block
>Zendikar
>Best Standard block
>The Standard block featuring Jace the Meme Sculptor for half a year
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>>53830787
Note that we got almost entirely interesting cards, good or not. It's entirely plausible this was a business move to get people hyping into magic if they think HoD might not be exciting.
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>>53830787

The business people at Wizards definitely wouldn't leak Ixalan before they've even really started Hour spoilers.
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I'm a relatively new player, how does this leak compare with the leak from a few years ago with the colorless mana and the big Eldrazi that use it?

It seemed like some earthshattering shit back then, took months for the bickering to die down. Remember when everyone here called it anus mana?
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>>53830787
>>53830787
>>53830787
I think the biggest indication this might have been intentional is seeing reddit's /r/magictcg reaction so far.

They're pretty much the 'official' forum for Magic, after WoTC took down their shitty forum on their main site. WoTC even declared so, and have their staffs monitoring that place.

Those people monitor the place like a hawk. But even though it's been over 12 hours since the leak threads were made, they've been keeping quiet. You'd think they'd go panic mode or delete/make it haram to post the leaks, since they're the official forum.

>implying they didn't 'leak' on purpose to create fake controversy to get everyone to talk about MTG, like what we're doing right now
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>>53830761
And most of those didn't do shit.
Anyway I think 2017 is tribal year. The EDH decks are tribal, we get Goblins vs Merfolk and Iconic Masters
They want the old Timmies back after letting creative/PR tell the poor manchildren that they weren't welcome in their beloved hobby because they were born with a penis and low melanin.
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>>53830761
oh shit, and aetherborns, i forgot about aetherborns

says alot though doesn't it?
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>>53830811
>>53830824
I'm not a conspiracy theorist but I never dismiss the possibility that it's an actual conscious move from Wizard
Mostly because I have hope they are still competent people
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>>53830825
Nothing leaked here today seems playable in any eternal format
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Christ, can we go back to getting new planeswalkers that don't have a fucking vagina. I'm all for representation, but holy fuck Wizards, almost every new planeswalker has been a chick mostly ugly chicks too.
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>>53830809
Fine, it was best up until the Jace meme sculptor deck was made. I stopped playing competitively at that point.
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>>53830825
theres no unknown mechanics being debated

in the eldrazi mana debacle, people insisted it couldn't just be a new template for colorless mana because doing it midblock would be pants on head retarded and would mean you'd literally play with two templates of the same cards like eldrazi spawn in the same draft, and if there was going to be a new template it would be in the first set

well turns out they were just pants on head retarded and Maro had told them as much
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>>53830844
What's the new planeswalker? Vraska isn't new
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>>53830828

they didn't go into panic mode when the whole judge leaks were happening, but we'll probably hear about them once they get their investigation rolling. they mostly don't want to bring attention to the fact that an entire set has pretty much been leaked to people who don't browse reddit.
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>>53830837

What would they benefit from by cutting the legs out of their next set, by getting people focused on the next one instead?
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>>53830844
End it man.
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>>53830844
>Gideon
>Ajani
>Jace
>Nicol Bolas
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>>53830859

it's the RW one on the 2nd row. She uses the art on the first conquest of power booster.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCTetD8XsAAxvKb.jpg:large
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>>53830280
I'm having a hard time reading this, but does this do nothing unless a player was dealt combat damage by 3 or more pirates in a turn?

That seems really bad on a lord, at best this ability would activate twice before the opponent is just dead. It won't be edh playable either because there aren't enough fucking pirates.
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>>53830787
>>53830811
>>53830824
>>53830828
Microsoft Man's effect in the company is finally being felt.
We suddenly have real, organic word of mouth hype instead of the usual "please be exited about set names and banana jokes" MaRo faggotry.
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>>53830864
If HoD has been testing poorly in terms of excitement levels for non-competetive players, they could use the hype from leaked cards that DO interest them to keep players interested.

It only really is of benefit if HoD has been doing abysmally in terms of flavor and hype.
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>>53830809
Jace got his shit wrecked by Vampires until Squadron Hawk showed up.
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The reason this leak is on purpose is because MaRo made it clear he the Gatewatch reaction surprised them, and he seemed to be whining about how he works in the future and can't fix it. Guarantee this leak is to get us to move on quicker, maybe they have low hopes for Hour or maybe it just helps us stick around
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>>53830864
The business ways are impenetrable.
Not that I'm gonna complain, being hyped feels good and I'm hyped as fuck from the recent announcements, Ixalan leaks AND HoD
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>>53830881
That's a weird looking hair style there
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>Releasing more vehicles when Kaladesh block is still in standard

Just when you think WOTC is starting to figure their shit out
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>>53830878

none of these are new. all the new planeswalkers they've been making have had vaginas

>arlin kord
>black ghost chick from conspiracy
>loo in poo
>samut
>new ixalan chick
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>>53830844
Wolf Mom and Artifice Mom are cute, though.

Also Dovin Baan was just printed in the last block.
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>>53830913
>Dovin Baan

You're trying way too hard to fit in man.
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>>53830650

2 other possibilities are that they ban it from all formats immediately on release, or they redo the printing process, might not be too late, do we know when these pictures were even taken?
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>>53830864
Well there is a slew of new product bouncing around 2 master sets a new UN set, whatever that board game for Ixlian is

Culling the hype for one set helps draw eyes to other products. plus standard is a shit show right now
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>>53830280
What I can interpret from the card

>Other Pirate creatures you control get +1/+1.
>At the beginning of your end step, gain control of target nonland permanent controlled by a player that was dealt combat damage by ??? Pirates ???.
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>>53830811
>It's entirely plausible this was a business move to get people hyping into magic if they think HoD might not be exciting.

This seems pretty logical considering how bad amonkhek was

I bet they had masterpieces ready for ixalian but scrapped the idea since they saw the bad reception of good cards on SHIT frame
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>>53830844
At least native-american chick is the stoic kind of appealing. Samut is so ugly it's anger-inducing.
WereMilf is ok. Sashilli is shit.

Maybe they just don't know how to draw young women anymore.
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>>53830963
WE WUZ
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>>53830947
Three or more?
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>>53830947

Three or more pirates this turn

Unfortunately it's trash. Also unfortunate that all these pirates seem to have a "you need other pirates or this card does nothing" theme, which is a really bad theme to have for a tribe when all tribes have the weakness of being bad against board wipes
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>>53830963
Very dope
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What mechanic did they take from here and used on Conspiracy?
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None of these conspiracy theories posted so far have an actual decent explanation behind cutting down the hype for something they've made, and which they obviously want to make money from. Just a bunch of baseless speculation about "not testing well".
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>>53830956
>of good cards on SHIT frame
I'd have been ecstatic had the art been hieroglyphy too.
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>>53830966

A tired and boring meme. And not even relevant
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>>53830966
DINOSAUR PIRATES
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>>53830280
They even got the same colors as Rogues.
FUCK.
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>>53830969
>Unfortunately it's trash.
All this stuff is garbage overcosted cards from a timmy's wet dream. Knock 2 CMC off everything and print it in a commander set.
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>>53830958
They need Chris Rallis to draw more PWs. The new Lili is fucking gorgeous.
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>>53830864
We've been playing under a narrative that they know Kaladesh and Amonkhet block were gonna underperform and that's why they pretty much banned Modern from competitive play. Ixalan is their "See guise, we listen to you" card and they need to hype it hard. If they had more time to change shit before the numbers were in it might've even had enemy fetchlands for hype.
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>>53830972
Monarch. Originally you could take the 'treasure' and shout "I'M THE CAPTAIN NOW". But WOTC has to sell supplemental product.
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>>53830983
Best promo ever?
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Sucks that they are skipping masterpieces for this block, the whole theme of pirate treasure and pirate gold could have made some beautiful frames and a coherent theme unlike Amoklhet
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>>53830973
Hyping Magic doesn't cut hype from a specific set, but it does let them gloss over mistakes. The most obvious mistake is if HoD isn't doing well in testing, and the most obvious fix to that is to get people hyped for another magic product.

The average consumer for MTG won't care that it isn't the right set, but they are better off garnering interest in general, than losing it in the coming months.

Especially if they think pirates vs dinosaurs will have a great shelf life, which it looks like it might.
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>>53830883
Pirate tokens seem to be a thing and the blue tribe for Pirates is Sirens so they'll at least have evasive dudes to play with.
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>>53830995

People here were talking about how ugly she was and how she showed no skin.
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>>53830999
They should print fetches at uncommon or ban them forever
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>>53831012
People here are idiots.
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>>53831012
People here are always complaining.
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>>53831010
>if HoD isn't doing well in testing

And what are you basing this on? Nothing? Okay.
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>>53831012
I distinctly remember people here talking about how good the art was aside from those quickly brushed pyramids in the background.

So I guess we'll have to agree that anecdotal evidence is stupid.
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>>53830531
>Worrying about spoilers when playable cards are more or less restricted to the upper rarities and the game costs a mortgage payment for a deck
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I'm not sure i can pin down the specific theme here.

Is it pirates just pirates or colonization or is the whole world like One Piece where it is just exploration and sailing forever and ever?
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>>53831040

Where do you live that a mortgage payment is around $200 on average?
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>>53830995
Have you seen the lower half of that picture? Her dress/legs are a disgusting mess of purple.

Whoever forced him to edit out the leg in that picture should be fucking shot.
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>>53830966
She's not black.
And their nigger "diversity consultant" will write a tesis about how that's opression against her personally in her twitter.
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>>53831030
Basing it on the fact that they've made recent statements about the negative feedback they've gotten lately, some of which directly relates to HoD? The entire 2.0 article was full of acknowledgment that they've been getting negative feedback, and that they will be taking measures to correct the issues that currently exist.

The only unknown is whether HoD specifically is testing badly for flavor too, but if the leaks are intentional, which is at least a possibility, it would make for a reasonable business decision to have done so.
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>>53831055
I can flip that around on you and ask what sort of rinky-dink Tier 3 deck you're playing that costs $200.

Point is, players new and old shouldn't have to sit across from a deck that costs $500. Because if that happens enough times, you won't have players anymore.
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>>53831052
It's Aztec themed, featuring not-Spanish Conquistadors, not-Quetzalcoatl dinosaurs, and merfolk because the set's by the ocean.

>>53831063
>>53831074
I fail to see the issue.
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>>53830995
She's still not as pretty as in her oath or Terese Nielsen's Liliana Vess.
Too much photorealism and they obviously made him edit some zettai ryouiki out of the final image with how akwardly possitioned her legs and dress are.
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>>53831073
Based on wizard's recent record with reacting to feedback they've probably banned HoD and skipped straight to the Ixalan spoilers.
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Way too hype about Merfolk, I wonder if this means the Merfolk Vs Goblin decks will feature UG Merfolk?
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>>53831055
Modern Jund cost around $1400
Some decks simply cost too much
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>>53831090

The average cost of standard as of last month is $275. In Modern you can build something like Skred Red that can do decent for less than $400. And the national average for mortgages is a little over $1000, which in itself is more than a good number of top placing Modern decks.

So yeah, I'm wondering where you're living that a mortgage is $500
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>>53831093
>Dinosaurs
I was gonna ask about that too, half of them seem to be what appears "Avatars" which is a lil strange
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>>53831073
>The only unknown is whether HoD specifically is testing badly for flavor too
Yes, people wanted egypt world and normies feel Amonkhet is too much Bolas world and too little egypt world.
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>>53831113
>national average for mortgages is a little over $1000
I have to wonder how much that's skewed by California and high-price cities.
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>>53831052
Nature vs Greed.
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>>53831114
Most of those are rates/mythics
We'll have plenty at common/uncommon level

>>53831121
Well, HoD will literally turn Amonkhet into Bolasland
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>>53831134
It's more skewed by super low income homes, more poor people than well off people.
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>>53831073

And somehow you immediately relate dealing with negative feedback with spoiling the set after it, completely derailing their spoiler season and making people give absolutely no shits about HoD. Because clearly people not caring about a product helps them sell more of that product. Or wait, maybe they WANT to lose money on a set? Probably makes sense in the mind of a conspiracy theorist.

But your logic is circular in the first place. The leaks are intentional, because HoD is poorly received, and HoD just must be poorly received because it would a "reasonable conclusion" if the leaks were intentional.
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>>53831114
The Avatars all have to do with specific suns, of which there seem to be multiple.
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>>53831096
with UG merfolk getting support do you think wizards will print black goblins that are worth running?
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>>53831114
Aztec art depicts a lot of winged and reptilian-looking beasts, many of which were deified. Particularly, the God Quetzalcoatl's name literally means "winged serpent."
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>>53831113

The average cost of a deck that has at least 1% meta share is 850
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>>53831165

So in other words, exactly what I said about $1000 being more than a good number of top placing Modern decks.
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>>53831157
>multiple suns
You're triggering my PTSD here, anon.
Glistening Oil reprint?
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>>53831154
The leaks may be intentional because they are the ones with easiest access to them. You don't assume someone broke into their HQ and stole them, you assume it was done from within. I'll flip it on you, why would a person risk getting fired for nothing?
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>>53831073
>they will be taking measures to correct the issues that currently exist
Man, I don't know about you, but I've lived long enough to have heard this one before.

You can apologize all you fucking want or claim you've identified problems. Such a statement is worthless if they've neither specifically said what those problems are nor how they plan to fix it. It's just as likely they're treating the issue as it is they're just pouring water all over the place hoping they'll put out the fire. Or worse, they are just stalling for time saying, "It's a concern we are looking into."
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>>53831171
What if this is secretly a return to super future mirrodin?

>>53831181
I didn't say they'd actually do anything worth while, or that they have any clue what the right thing IS, but that the article was all about doing it.
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>>53831171
>Ixalan becomes New New Phyrexia
>Compleated Dinosaurs
>PHYREXIAN DINOSAURS
>BEAST WITHIN REPRINT
Sadly, it will never happen
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>>53831096
I'd rather it be Esper Merfolk with both Syggs
And FFS WotC print Lord of Atlantis with Modern borders I'm tired of faggots calling the judge when I play it like they don't know what they're doing.
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What is the use of a super low resolution blurry picture of the foil sheet.

Why are supposed leakers so fucking useless with their cameras. There is no fucking excuse that such a low resolution image is used.

Either Wizards leaked it themselves or the leaker is a fucking retard. Either way, I don't know why anybody should care given we can't tell what the fuck is on all the cards.
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>>53831175

Why do spoiler leaks ever happen? Do you really think that these kinds of things aren't done by internal parties?

Newsflash: people are stupid enough to risk their jobs on stuff like this. Take manga scanlations, for example; they live off of people in the companies who produce them, and who are willing to illegally take issues and hand them off to people who can then get them to the proper channels. Shit happens
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>>53831192
>People are too dumb to look at a set symbol
Fuck them
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>>53831147

This is the rare sheet. It's not "mostly rares", it's every single rare and mythic from the set and nothing else.
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>>53831164
It means feathered serpent and Quetzalcoatl didn't have wings, he's more like an eastern dragon.
In fact the only mythological aztec creatures with wings that weren't just zooantrhopes are flying zombie heads.
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>>53831207
So, when presented with a reason, in that it may benefit their business and thus have been intentional, your response is to say "no" and "shit happens".

It may or may not be an intentional leak, and if it is, we'll likely never have confirmation.

Just because you don't understand WHY it might be beneficial, doesn't mean it isn't, or more importantly, that someone could think so.
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>>53831218
I wasn't sure foil sheets were also rarity sheets
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>>53831203
What are you talking about, can't read them? Why don't you take a look at mythic spoiler
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Legendary Creature - Merfolk

~’s power and toughness are equal to the number of cards in your hand.

You have no maximum hand size

When ~ enters the battlefield draw a card for each creature you control
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>>53831157
sun for every colour again eh, i like it
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>>53831234

Except your reasons for it "benefiting their business" are idiotic and nonsensical, not to mention contradictory to what their business actually is: selling cards. And there is nothing about them foregoing any hype for HoD that leads to them selling more HoD cards. You're basing everything off a wild speculation about them dealing with negative feedback, and you taking that in the stupidest route possible.

My response to that is to try to get you to actually provide a solid foundation for your reasoning, which you haven't, instead saying it "may or may not be" something and using that as an excuse to spout bullshit.
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>>53831241
You mean how half of those are literally the pictures i posted in this and the last thread after blowing them up?
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Internally at Wizards do you think when the sheets come in for inspection that they do it in a large open space to ensure nobody is taking photos on their phones just to be sure an employee doesn't fuck them if they quit?

I once had to read something and immediately after everyone in the room was done with it it was shredded to ensure no leaks.
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>>53831248
Blue white or blue red though?
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>>53831265
Fuck are you on about, Green Blue
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>>53831203
>What is the use of a super low resolution blurry picture of the foil sheet.

>The leak is a decision that wasn't made by the company
When you do something illegal, you don't want to get caught so you don't have time to do things better
>The leak was organized by WotC
The blurryness helps hiding the fact that it's a business move
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>>53831265
>>53831248
merfolk are G/U this set
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>>53831263

Considering full leaks have happened before, they probably aren't that thorough.
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>>53831265

it's green blue.
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>>53831165
Technically correct, but only because jund and abzan skew the results. The median cost of the same decks is less than 750.
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>>53831154
Market cannibalism is a supposition, not a proven phenomenon. And they're now under the leadership of the man who resurrected LeapFrog and brought Xbox 360 from RROD land to the second best selling console of it's gen.

He wants hype for the post-course correction sets and knows HOD will pay for itself anyway.
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>>53831272
>>53831274
>>53831276
sorry friendos.
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>>53831258
You are under the impression that HoD is the "product". It isn't, Magic the Gathering is. If one part of a product is testing poorly, you can generate hype by talking up a part that is testing well.
The only difference is that the cards being hyped won't be released at the same time, but that doesn't matter in the long run. People who are the core magic audience will buy it regardless, for limited and through singles of specific cards, while casual players are hyped by the new cards they hear about, and thus keep interest.

The hardest part of any entertainment business is keeping the fleeting casual demographic interested. You don't worry as much about your core audience, as long as you don't cross certain lines they'll keep coming.

Interest is better than disinterest. Any press is good press.
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>>53831261
Christ, are those people here scouring /tg/ for zoomed-in images?

This may turn out tragically. If Wizards has a baby shit fit over this and sends an angry letter to Hiro something bad might happen.

I wonder if anybody at Wizards is actually doing anything about this right now. I wonder if someone woke Forsythe up right now and he's rustled the lawyers and they're on the way to the office right now cranking out the C&Ds.
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>>53831286
Should Microsoft Man be the Archangel Michael to MaRo Lucifer in /mtg/ beliefs?
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Don't engage the derailing autists.
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Kudos for the story people for subtly dropping that in
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>>53831312

yup thread is linked on reddit. weird thing is, the thread has 180 posts but only 40 unique posters, lot of samefagging going around.
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>>53831312
They don't seem to do anything about Reddit leaks threads even while r/MagicTheRedditing is their official forum
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>>53831325
He actually dose look like he is in some sailing position.
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>>53831261
And how if you click on them the text is written out for you, invalid
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>>53830872
fuck off
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>>53831351
Yes at first I thought the torn shirt had to do with being a washed up castaway but now looking at it Jace is definitely a pirate on some ship
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>>53831353
The text is them, or others, doing exactly what we spent the last thread doing, guesswork and squinting. It's not suddenly factual just because its on another website.
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>>53831333
It's 4am in the civilized world.
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>>53831203
I don't know, but spoiler or not, the sheet itself is kinda neat to look at. It must be cool to see one get printed and stamped out with the giant die-cutters.
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>>53831325
It certainly looks like it's written "Legendary Planeswalker". I hope not though
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>>53830940
>>53830937
>>53830915
Oh wow, 1 in 6, that makes everything better. Fuck off, you're trying too hard to suck the diverse cock
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>>53831380
What would the point of that even be?
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>>53831379
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>>53831379
People who get these sometimes will cut them up themselves so they can complete their all miscut legacy/vintake deck
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>>53830985
That's just your opinion and it's wrong.
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>>53831379
My FLGS actually has a foil sheet from New Phyrexia on display. It looks great as fuck.
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>>53831338
Well they don't punish Reddit because they know very well it's the official forum. They're doing all the marketing work for them for free and all Wizards has to do is reap the benefits.

The mods wouldn't have their job if they didn't buckle to the demands of Wizards. Likewise they won't continue to get sweet official spoilers if they defied Wizards' demands. Threads on there disappear all the time.

That's not to say the Reddit mods are corrupt. But they know their continued autonomy only exists due to the generosity of Wizards. When something is leaked there it will stay for the purposes of appearing independent but you can bet 100% that the mods will have reported the IP address and any other collected information about the leaker to the Wizards Community Managers.
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>>53831390
I don't know
>Clarify the legendary and planeswalker rules
>Make the self-copy ultimate of Pirate Jace works
Either way, it's stupid
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Carnage Tyrant - Mythic - 4GG

Carnage Tyrant can't be countered.
Trample Hexproof

7/6

This is why I no longer play the game. Boring shit like this clogging up the upper complexity slots and more or less ruining Limited as a bonus feature.
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>>53831093
this is the un-altered art
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>>53831466
>Mythic
>Upper complexity slots
>Not flashy card slots
You have no right to complain about a game you don't play/care/know about
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>>53830280
Other Pirates you control get +1/+1

At the beginning of your end step, gain control of target nonland permanent controlled by a player who was dealt combat damage by ??? this turn
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>>53831466
Mythic was a mistake.
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>>53831501
Probably "three or more pirates this turn".
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This might not be the best place to ask this, but I don't feel like it's worth a new thread.

I've been out of the loop on MTG for a while and I mostly play Legacy anyway, but recently I went to check on the B&R list to see if I have to prune anything from my decks.

And holy shit how is so much stuff banned in Standard? What is going on there? This hasn't happened since Mirrodin right? And six of those were just lands that were pretty much the same thing, you have to go back to Urza block to find more bans of substantially different cards in Standard.

Is there any outrage over this? I'm surprised I've heard nothing.
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>>53831521
There is a standard general right there >>53792241
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>>53831521
Yeah, it's pretty much the consensus that T2 is trash and nobody wants to play it(just like during mirrodin), there is going to be another card banned soon most likely.
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>>53831488
I only wish I could prove to you how much I know about Magic if only to teach you you shouldn't throw out judgments like that so recklessly.

If that's your definition of flashy, then we obviously have a shit definition of flashy if such a definition encompasses this card. And if we're not going to have high complexity cards at common or uncommon, then where exactly do you expect me to find them besides Rare or Mythic?
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>>53831521
A lot of things were changed in a short amount of time, almost all of them were negative to the game.

They've spent the last year in a half rolling back their stupid changes.

The endgoal was to turn Standard into a fast rotating format that revolved 100% around chase mythics instead of deck design
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>>53831542
>When you were partying, I studied Magic: The Gathering
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>>53831542
>If that's your definition of flashy, then we obviously have a shit definition of flashy if such a definition encompasses this card.
I didn't say it was a good definition and a huge dinosaur you can't stop from coming fuck your shit up is pretty flashy

>And if we're not going to have high complexity cards at common or uncommon, then where exactly do you expect me to find them besides Rare or Mythic?
In the rare and mythic slots
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>>53831379
>dinosaurs are naya

They shouldve been jund


So, grixis pirates and naya dinos. We probably will have some other shard support
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>>53831391
It does seem like the planeswalkers have Legendary in them
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>>53831582
Considering there are Dino avatars there seems to be some thing semi-divine about them so white might make sense.
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>>53831325
Looks like Jayce becomes someone's bitch boy slave
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>>53831597
I wonder if this will open the door for non legendary planewalkers you can have multiple copies of
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>>53831582
Shards block?
Merfolk are only GU for now, right?
We have white vampires too.
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>>53830531
I can't tell whether "corporate shill" or "brainless drone" is a better description for this guy. It's like he's about to have a fucking mental breakdown that some the Rare/Mythic Rare sheet got leaked. Who the fuck cares, this happened with all of the "important" cards back with Gatecrash and nobody gave a shit. Granted, most of the cards revealed were shit.
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>>53831613
It seems to be allied shards and enemy pairs, definitely a take we haven't seen, which is pretty cool.
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>>53831654
If only it were any attacking/blocking creature. Bummer.
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>>53831654
>gatewatch gets rekt

Its funny because people will love this more than wotc expected
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>>53831654
>Not drowned in a puddle
Dissapointed
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>>53831689
It's a cycle of self-color hate cards.
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>>53831689

Exiling any attacking or blocking creature for just W with marginal upside and no downside would be way too good.
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>>53831697
I'll be sure to leave a 10/10 feedback for this set
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>>53831705
I know. I just misread it the first time and thought we were getting a Path/Swords clone, and I got pretty excited. ;-;
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>>53831689
If only Boil destroyed all lands instead of only islands.
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So what BS will be saving the Gatewatch from death?
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>>53831756
It does, it's called Armageddon.
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>>53831760
Jace gets flung away to Ixalan
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>>53831760
The gods get their memories back and destroy the plane, knocking all the PWs including Bolas across the multiverse
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>>53831760
Samut will use her speedster powers which WotC did a shit job of communicating that she had to save them.

Jace, having been mindwiped, will planeswalk away to Ixalan and go full on apeman and protect the dinosaur loving natives from pirates.
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>>53831795
>Jace, having been mindwiped, will planeswalk away to Ixalan and go full on apeman and protect the dinosaur loving natives from pirates.
But Anon, he becomes a pirate
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>>53831011
Even if it's just 1/1 tokens getting buffed to 2/2 tokens, assuming you have done 2 damage without the lord out, you only get to see her trigger twice before the opponent is just dead.
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I think Chandra is the one going to die. animu death flags everywhere

She gets reunited with her mom and they have a heartfelt goodbye and Chandra tells her mom she'll visit her.

Plot twist she'll never go back to visit her mom
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>>53831795
>Angry black person that runs fast

WOTC really exploring some character concepts
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>>53831827
We can only hope, Chandra has been ruined by the new writing.
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>>53831827
Good, fuck her. I will never forgive the fact that her and bullshit writing killed Ulamog and Kozilek.
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>>53831827
The feisty steampunk pyromaniac is never going to die. She's not even going to get a costume change ever.

That's like saying DC is going to drop Batman.
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PLENEASEWALKERS ARE LEGENDARY BECAUSE THEY WILL BE LEGAL AS COMMANDERS FROM NOW ON
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>>53832007
That would actually be a good reason to add Legendary to the planeswalker
But it could also mean that other legendary permanents can be your Commander
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>>53830280
Remember, in his podcast Maro talked once about the idea of doing a block where the last set revealed that we'd been on Dominaria the whole time.

When we last saw Ajani he talked about going to Dominaria to recruit more planeswalkers, and yet now he's in Ixalan?

What if Ixalan block is merely the prelude to the next set which we know will be a return to Dominaria and that it will reveal that Ixalan is merely a continent?

The early playtest name for the setting, Atlazan, seem to flirt with the Atlantis myth, which might explain why we haven't seen it before. What if one of the many cataclysmic events Dominaria has faced lately caused the continent to suddenly reappear? That might also explain all the Merfolk running around there.
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>>53832032
If Ixalan isn't this, I'm gonna be disappointed now.
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>>53831785
>Lays low and becomes a pirate
I need this
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>>53832007
I ACTUALLY HOPE SO I WANT NICOL BOLAS, PLANESWALKER AS MY COMMANDER
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>>53830280
>1UBR
>legendary pirate
>3/3
WAIT A SECOND
>>52306178
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I can't believe there is some dumb dinosaur mythic with nothing but hexproof, uncounterable and trample.
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>>53830456
Stop assuming. You have both vampire conquistadors as vampire aztecs in this set.
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>>53831654
>The shitskin gets deported
it's like pottery
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>>53831502
But Craw Wurm has been completely fucked at least since Zendikar, and slightly fucked at least since Urza block.
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>>53832086
What is your opinion of Isamaru?
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>>53832048

>mfw Karn Liberated as a commander
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>>53831654
That's actually really playable.
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>>53832113
Ugin is far worse
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>>53832007
What little could be interpretated from Jace's card seemed to say something about "copies of Jace", which might just mean that his ultimate will give you an emblem with the ability to have more than one Jace on the battlefield at once, but not more than one copy of Tom Hanks Jace because he's legendary.
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>>53832032
>Ixalan has dinosaurs
>Dominaria had dinosaurs
habbening
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>>53832139
Thing is the other PW is legendary as well
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>>53830757
>pandering to super normies by doing pirates and dinosaurs

This. It's the fucking lowest-hanging fruit there is. Probably going to grab some cards for EDH from this set, but I'd rather move on to Dominaria directly.
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>>53832113
>New Tamiyo as commander
>New Bolas as commander
>New Liliana as commander
>JTMS as commander
>Saheeli as commander
>Nahiri Stax
Hmm...
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>>53832111
That's not fair, Kamigawa as a whole was a mistake.
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>>53830844
>>53831389
>Being this triggered
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>>53832111
Isamaru wasn't a mythic, and had actually pushed P/T.
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Will Old Fogey finally become viable with new dinosaurs?
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I have a boner in my pants
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>>53832007

Noooooooooooooo

FOR FUCK'S SAKE NO
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>>53832032
That would be pretty cool, actually. I doubt it's happening though.
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>>53832208
so you draw like 4 cards then it dies
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>>53830691
Las I seen it was still Castaway Jace with 3 loyalty and an ulti that copies himself (?).
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>>53832032
>Jace regains memories
>"WE HAVE TO GET TO DOMINARIA"

>"But Jace, we're already there"
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>>53832086
Yeah, they should've given him haste and flying, too.
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>>53832111
A 13 year old card
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>>53832111
We really taking cues from Kamigawa, a block that was panned by everyone?
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>>53830802
We have plenty pirates. And plenty of opportunities to get more.
The problem is having dinosaurs with dinosaurs synergy and then nothing else for 10 years.
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>>53832208
Not sure that's 2GG. Also, kinda meh. Harmonize or even just wheeling is a more reliable and comparable draw option most of the time.
I guess it combos with Darksteel Plate and Labman though?
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>>53832277
>Harmonize and wheels
A group of high powered cards in their colors?
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>>53832277
>Darksteel Plate
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>>53832269
They could always do Muraganda (Maro confirmed that Muraganda and Ixalan are different planes), but that's probably not happening in the next five years. They have so many other populare settings they'll want to explore first (norse world etc.)
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>>53832208
You realize that there are dozens of infinite combos with niv already, right?
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>>53830626
Where do you see this? Pls be legit
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>>53831389
>every new is a chick reeeee
>this guy isn't
>wooo who cares about one reeeee
I like my autists more when all they care about is using thematic lands on their decks.
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>>53830280
WotC on suicide watch. Fucking christ, this company is a joke.
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>>53832208
That really looks BG to me. Mechanically speaking it could be mono G, BG, or even kind of RG in a way.

I've always thought red should get a mechanic where if a creature gets hurt it gets pissed and way stronger.
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>>53831405
Mine does too, but it's from Ravnica.
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>>53831390
So it can be a Commander?
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>>53832234

>draw 5 cards and deal 1 damage to target creature or player
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>>53831094
>they obviously made him edit some zettai ryouiki out of the final image with how awkwardly positioned her legs and dress are.
lmao holy shit now that you mention it, it's obvious as fuck
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>>53831466
>all mythics needs a wall of text with convoluted rules
You're playing the wrong game.
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>>53830969
So that's what we got now? New tribes every sets that only work together?
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>>53830531
>Waah leaks hurt magic
Meanwhile people have already uncovered major rules / balance issues that can potentially be fixed before release, or at least give WotC some planning time.
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>>53832450
>Meanwhile people have already uncovered major rules / balance issues that can potentially be fixed before release
such as?
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>>53831191
>BEAST WITHIN REPRINT
More like DINOSAUR WITHIN amirite?!! :))
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>>53832464
Hostage Taker going infinite with itself and forcing draws on turn 4.
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>>53832450
It hurts in the sense that there will be literally no hype when the set comes out and will prematurely influence the secondary market.
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>>53831094
Why would they make him edit that out when they've done stuff like Lili of the Veil or Liliana's Innistrad promo art in the past? This sounds a lot like "muh she's not showing much skin so she's not pretty"
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>>53832450
> that can potentially be fixed before release
Ixalan is well past the point where cards can be changed.
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>>53832480
Ruining the game on T4 seems to be the new design philosophy going forward.

>Marvel
>Gideon
>Cat Lady

Seems like once you get past 3 mana you just can't save the game
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>>53830963
You know I... don't hate this.
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>>53831760
Planeswalking on reflex to save themselves.
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>>53832514
It's not like it never happened before.
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>>53831654
This shit is a flavor mess, why is a card depicting nicol bolas btfoing gideon white?
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>>53831597
Maybe you can only have one legendary planeswalker at the same time, no matter his identity?
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>>53832574
It's a cycle retard.
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>>53831654
It was obvious, really. Fuck they're really bad at storytelling.
And too bad, actually. He was probably the more likeable of the lot.
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>>53832590
No one is dying according to MaRo.

Gideon may finally lose his indestructibility though
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>>53831827
I'd be fine with this, even thougb i quite liked her before the writing turned her into a twelve years old instragrammer
Even tough she's a cutie; I'd rather have her dying before they ruin her character even more.
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>>53832574
Every card is Bolas defeating gatewatch with their respective mana.
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>>53832574
Bolas can use white and green. He doesn't use it as much as Grixis colors though. Besides, he's an old fucking dragon planeswalker. How can you expect him to just stick with Grixis all this time?

Also, see Conflux (the card).
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>>53832208
Weird to use a predatory dinosaur for something like this. This looks more like an "endure" capacity, so i'd have seen a stegosaur, ankylosaur or triceratops rather than this.
Especially since he's got more endurance than strenght.
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>>53830963
The armor design looks so retarded holy shit. And while i don't have any problem with feather, the color scheme seems pretty shitty too.
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>>53832647
I imagine it's more to do with how its only useful during combat, meaning the creature wants to fight a lot
plus it doesn't make much sense for a Tough creature to have a low toughness
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>>53832620
*Instagrammar
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>>53830834
I'm playing aetherborn in standard right now. It's not bad
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>>53832675
better get yourself some of this bad boy
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>>53830903
That's a good point. Leaks r a way to show people hey the things you don't like now get fixed. Just hang in there.
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>>53832658
Yeah, the promo art we've seen for Ixalan so far has been pretty bad. It looks like they went a bit overboard with the colorful feathers and stuff.
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>Hostage Taker
>2UB
>Creature - Human Pirate
>When Hostage Taker enters the battlefield, exile target artifact or creature until Hostage Taker leaves the battlefield. You may cast that card for as long as it remains exiled, and you may spend mana as though it were mana of any color to cast that spell.

OH GOD I'M LOSING MY SHIT OVER THIS, PLAY THIS ON AN EMPTY BOARD AND THE GAME IS AN AUTOMATIC DRAW BECAUSE IT'S A ONE CARD INFINITE LOOP THAT CAN'T BE STOPPED
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I don't care how shitty they are, but I'M GOING TO WALK THE DINOSAUR! I've been waiting to make a dinosaur tribal for years
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>>53832725
Its not mechanically infinite, its just a delay of game.
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>>53832725
>You may cast

No, it's not a draw. You can get infinite ETB triggers and storm count thought.
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Is there no mount mechanic? Dinosaur riding seems like a major flavor point and it was teased in the announcement.

>Unfurl your sails, saddle up a dinosaur, and battle your rivals as you embark on a journey to claim the plane’s greatest fortune for yourself!
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>>53832772
Who said anything about casting? Its trigger exiles it then returns it. Then when it returns, the ETB goes off again and exiles it then returns it. Rinse and repeat forever if there are no other legal targets.
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>>53832725
I'm guessing there's some form of overhaul to the rules concerning infinite combos and draws incoming around the time of Ixalan's release.
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>>53830963
>Metal armor
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>>53832808
Honestly at this point I think it's far more likely that Wizards have just fucked up.
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>>53832725
This seems like a target for an erratum upon release.

>>53832775
Haven't seen one, but if there's gonna be one, it might resemble Vehicles in a way,
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>>53832775
>Creature - Vehicle
Calling it now.
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>>53832831
>"w-we're creating a new department so that less mistakes happen"

top kek
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>>53832762
No it actually is infinite. This is a straight up R&D fuckup unless the rules regarding loops is changing.
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>>53832775

>Is there no mount mechanic?

Of course there is.

>Prepare for Ixalan, featuring the return of a much beloved keyword
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>>53832868
>>53832808
Could be something akin to the "the player who made the play that forced the game into a infinite loop receives a match loss". So if you play Hostage Taker on an empty board you don't force a draw and instead just lose. If however, the board wasn't empty when you placed him on the stack but became so before he resolved because of player actions then the player whose card removed the last creature from play would receive the loss instead.
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>>53832851
>Tap creatures with power 5 or more to make this creature a creature
Hmm...
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>>53832902
But the problem with that line of thought is that there's absolutely no reason for this rule change to happen. Nobody has been calling for it, there are no problem interactions. So why print a card that forces the issue then change the rule because of it?
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>>53832907
You can have dinosarus riding themselves. Sounds good to me!
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>>53832658
I'm only in it for the feathered dinos, the rest of the plane I don't care about.
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>>53832880
>Bands with other Dinosaurs
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>>53832955

Old Fogey reprint C O N F I R M E D
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For a mount-like mechanic, I'd figure it would be something like "as crew, but add PT of mounting creature to this creature + any keywords they have"

So you tap a 2/1 first striker to mount a 3/2 trample mount vehicle, you get a 5/3 first strike trampler.

But that might need a drawback to stop it being too strong, either not having that great mounts, not having keywords carry, or having mounts kill / damage rider as well- "if this creature would be destroyed, creatures that were tapped to mount it are also destroyed.
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>>53832968
Good thing it has protection from Homarids, they're gonna be insane in this meta
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>>53832941

To make things easier, an erratum should be applied on it when it gets released, as >53832837 pointed out. IIRC, this happened with Marath.
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>>53832974
So pretty much banding.
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>pirates vs merfolk block on high seas right after Amonkek
It's like WotC is wiretapped to my brain
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>Aztec Vampires
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>>53833066
I gotta be honest, it seems pretty cool. I almost feel like it's a marketing move to cover up how shitty HOD is, but knowing WOTC its nowhere near that competent and masterful of a move. Also HOD doesn't actually seem to be that shitty. Between the unintentional(?) leaks, the intentional spoilers, and the announcement from the other day I also wonder if they're going the extra mile to cover up the Magic Duels controversy. A company having it's upcoming product leaked certainly seems a hell of a lot more interesting than finding out they stopped supporting something from a couple of years ago that they gave out for free. Just look at us, noone here is talking about it.
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>>53833131
No one is talking about Magic Duels because no one played it.
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>>53833182
The game only needed crafting to be good
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>Catholic invaders are bloodsucking monsters
BRAVO WOTC
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>>53833090
Catholic Conquistador Vampires actually

I'm anxious to see how WotC wastes such a rad concept
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So I assume we're going to be in Dominaria for awhile to set up the MTG MMO?
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>>53832987
I unironically would like to see Homarids and Cephalids.
Homarids are supposed to be really dreadful in the lore, and quite the efficient warriors.
Echo would be nice too
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>>53833210
That and a less retarded format. Only one of each mythic rare just meant that people would splash into multiple colors and stack their decks with rares anyways. It ended up hurting already bad decks more than the good ones that are three colored anyways.
>>53833131
Yeah and no one wants the fucking reserved list around anymore but there'd be hell to pay if they dropped it out of the blue after making a promise. They promised that MD would be persistent and always be keeping up with the most recent sets.
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>>53832691
Not at cmc 5. The entourage does similar role.
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>>53832574
He is stealing there spells.
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>>53833294
meant for
>>53833182
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>>53833090
that's a deck I now want and need.
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>>53830757
>>53832161
You forgot to account for the fact Dinosaurs are fucking cool.
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>>53833308
They would be if they were beasts. Now that's just some normie pandering.
And I'm a dinosaurfag, heck i literally learnt how to read with serious dinosaur books. But this shit is ridiculous.
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>>53833001
A remade version of Banding would be very cool imo. Banding had plenty of flavor.
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What are the odds it's getting a reprint?
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>>53833263
Oh yeah. That makes a lot of sense
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>>53831689
I too wish I could get rid of Kor Firewalker for W without giving my opponent a land.
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>>53833383
Abandoning the block format makes sense, I assume we'll be in Dominaria for a long time
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>>53831930
DC did kill Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson became the new batman
Until Bruce Wayne came back to life
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>>53832501
>in the past?
That's why, Innistrad was seven years ago before people started getting doxxed for not guessing a subhuman's pronouns right.
There's two illustrations where Liliana's legs were obviously edited to not show thigh, this and Macabre Waltz.
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>>53832620
>>53832665

>Instagram Cracker
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>>53832810
Incas had metal armor and the natives are an obvious amalgamation of all native-americans because mesoamericans didn't have mounts, aztecs didn't have metal armor, and neither nort-american natives nor inca had aquatic warfare
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>>53832252
>Jace regains memories
>"WE HAVE TO GET TO DOMINARIA"

>"Where do you think we are ?"
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>>53833375
Decent. We already got a functional reprint a few years ago I mean
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>>53833258
By not making them look as Requien: Chevalier Vampire as allowed by PG13
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>>53833283
Homarids would have been awesome in Ixalan, Cephalids would have been perfect for Shadows Over Innistrad and Nantuko would have been awesome in Tarkir.

But we can't have nice things.
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>>53832028
I actually want this, so I can play Genju of the Realm as a commander.
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>>53833561
At least Tarkir had Rakshasa.

Wish they'd get used more
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>>53830787
>Hype is good. Give me more hype.
WotC and Hasbro wants you to get hyped for the set they're trying to sell you, not the one they will be trying to sell you once you've grown tired of the first one.
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>>53832032
I want to believe.
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>>53830787
>Wizards have become so incompetent that it's coming full circle and people are starting to actually believe that they're doing this on purpose
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>>53833593
Yea there's no chance these leaks were intentional.

I am miles more hyped for Ixalan than I am for HoD.

Mostly because I think standard has an actual chance of being playable after rotation
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>>53833593
It's easier to keep a client than to bring them back after they leave.
HOD may have made people leave but DINOSAURS!!!
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>>53833635
Telling us about the dinosaurs was clearly intentional as they did during their upcoming year announcement. They most likely didn't intend to leak the entire print sheet.
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All of this reminds me of the Final Fantasy 13 release where the developers went to a big midnight release and someone was allowed to ask them one question in front of all of the cameras. So the lucky guy walks up to the mic, and asks "When are you remaking Final Fantasy 7?". He'd just got his hands on the new Final Fantasy, but he'd already forgotten about it because he wanted something else.

Everyone has already forgotten about Hour of Devastation because of the Ixilan spoilers. This new set is going to sell so bad it's unreal.
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>>53833340
Beast is a generic creature type used when they dont have a better option.

Cats could be beasts, birds as well. Snakes too. Basiy any animal.
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>>53830531
As an MTGSfag, I believe I speak for the majority when I say "fuck that guy"

The entire SITE was built around having leakers on the inside. Multiple big names have been sued and banned for life for leaking and still post on salvation, and they wear that shit as a badge of honor.

I'll concede that it's probably the biggest leak we've gotten since the godbook and someone's probably getting fired. But fuck WotC, this shit is gold. And most people, even on salvation recognize it.
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>>53833561
>Cephalids would have been perfect for Shadows Over Innistrad
Shit, you're right.
But MUH eldrazis won.
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>>53833575
Don't forget the Tarkir vampire.
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>>53830310
check out the Mgic: the seattling on normiebook. I saw a huge thread going on there with a bunch of people posting shit. 120+ comments
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>>53834062
ignore me that was the spoilers yesterday morning. damn this is some good shit
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>>53830828
Official policy is, and always has been, to never discuss any leak, real or fake, unless it's an official spoiler.
The fact that they said anything at all about the godbook leak was unprecedented and solely due to how big a fuckup that was. And IIRC even that was them waiting until official spoiler season and then releasing the full spoiler immediately.
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>>53833754
I fail to see how revisiting something good from the past is chasing something new. The real lesson from your story that you're unintentionally saying is that if you make a quality product it's timeless and will outshine the underwhelming new products. Between the UN set, scaling down on the gay twats, and returning to Dominaria it seems WOTC might finally be learning this lesson.
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>>53833754
>>Everyone has already forgotten about Hour of Devastation because of the Ixilan spoilers. This new set is going to sell so bad it's unreal.
Maybe it's a slight hint that the story is progressing at a snail's pace.
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>>53833973
RIP best vampire
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>>53831325
He kind of looks like he is missing his right arm in this admittedly super grainy picture
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>>53831466

Oh great MORE hard to deal with creatures that you only turn sideways. And it's green too, not like they needed any more help.
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>>53835705
Creatures are meant to turn sideways. I fucking hate creatures that should be artifacts or enchantments.
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>>53830828
wotc has no control of the subreddit and they went full jihad last time leaks got on reddit. Also wotc would never dump an entire sets rares 6 months before its due and right when they are trying to hype the current set
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>>53830832
Since when do only white guys like tribal?
Or are timmies?
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>>53831207
Why is leaker risking all this for free?
An uncut foil rare and mythic sheet of a set after next should be worth INSANE dosh.
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>>53836266
>a non tournament legal piece of cardboard should be worth insane dosh
Not really, although you probably could find a collector that may want to purchase it
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>>53836266
Theres a chance its intentional. I doubt it is, but its such a big leak with most of the cards being pretty unreadable that its still a possibility.

But Im also guessing that making money off of such a leak probably put you at a much bigger legal risk then just releasing it. Also they might just be doing it for the community or something.
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