Magic the Gathering: Possible Leaks

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>>53817431
>Draw seven cards

>>53817431
Looks real, but isn't that the Conspiracy symbol?

>>53817456
That's ixalan's set symbol

>>53817456
Dunno, Is there a sun empire on fiora?

>>53817431
Is this the only image or are there more

>>53817474
if you wish I could make more images. But they'd just be the same one poorly edited in photoshop

Speculation on the 5BB spell
>creature
>an opponent
>o two piles
>of your
>d under
>into their

I'm guessing it's something like:
>an opponent separates them into two piles. Put one pile of your choice onto the battlefield under your control and the other into their owner's/s' graveyard(s).

What the first part could be is escaping me right now.

>>53817801
Maybe it first destroys a creature and then does the pile stuff.

The spyglass has weird wording, could we see a slight change before ixalan?

>>53817853
Nevermind, I'm stupid, didn't notice there's no punctuation after creature.

>>53817858
>slight change before ixalan
If that leak is real, that is already at print. So I doubt it.

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Does that say Jace or am I seeing things

>>53817911
You're seeing very well. The little bit of border I see seems to be blue, too.

>>53817911
Jace, _ castway

3 loyalty

ulti: creates tokens of jace, _ castway except they are not Planeswalkers

>>53817911
Is that shit saying "copies of Jace"?

>>53817431
I thought opening packs and seeing what you get is one of the major draws of card gaming. Why do you want to see cards before then?

Do you look for the leaked script of movies you haven't seen yet?

>>53818028
Seeing new cards and making strategies around them and I might

>>53818028
yes

>>53818028
that was the problem with suicide squad, the script leaked, people dont like it, so they change it

>>53817933
>except they are not Planeswalkers
What would they be?

>>53818028
>I thought opening packs and seeing what you get is one of the major draws of card gaming. Why do you want to see cards before then?
Because knowing what you could get add spice

>>53818140
Creatures presumably
[Spoiler]Does jace lose his spark[/Spoiler]

>>53817933
>>53818140
>>53818170
Maybe they are illusions of Jace?

>>53818170
He loses it when he remembers all the filthy sex stuff that the sphix wiped from his brain

>>53818028
Because that way I can avoid wasting money on a pack that would have little to nothing useful. Or avoid going on a pre-release of said set. I mean, goin to SOI pre-release was disappointing enough, I don't want to repeat that.

>>53817933
Those last letters appear to be "ry", so it seems like it's saying "Legendary". There may be some sort of rules overhaul to streamline Legendary and Planeswalker Uniqueness.

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More parrotsaurs!

>>53818028
>Cracking packs
Yeah, it's interesting for the first year you start playing. Then you realize you're spending four dollars on cardboard you're never going to use. Either draft or buy singles, and to do both of those things you need to know the game beforehand.

Once you get past that, the real draw of the card game is the interplay of rules and the game itself.

If you're in a casual circle, there's the huge range of options or customization for your deck. There are thousands of Magic cards in print, all with various abilities and synergies and different art and themes.

In competitive play, the draw is in the battle of wits. Can you anticipate your opponent's next move, and plan and react accordingly? Can you play your own threats at the right time? Each game is a hundred different choices, and it's a test to see if you can make the right ones.

For both of these, you want to know what cards are coming out soon. In casual, maybe a new theme has caught your eye- maybe there's a card that really helps this one deck you have. Maybe it's just the word "Draw seven cards".

In competitive, it's still exciting to see these new cards- to test your judgment on whether a card will be standard playable or rot in the dollar rare bin for eternity. It's a peek into the future, a guess at what will rule the metagame you'll be playing in three months.

Or you could crack packs and go "ooh" at the shiny common in the back.

>>53818335
Its worse than oath of the gatewatch

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>>53818335
>pirate Jace

>>53818335
>Cleric of rebirth
>White Vampire

well that's sorta neat. I want to look at the cards more but this is a blurry mess. Can anyone make out the goodstuff?

>>53818335
Well, that sorts out the mystery of >>53817801

>Exile up to five(?) target creature cards from graveyards.

>>53818335
I require more leaks

>>53818335
Is there a high-res version of this? Can't make out shit.

>>53818335
>Monogreen Merfolk
>Monowhite Vampire

That's actually really neat

>>53818335
Am I seeing a vehicle border there? GUESS WE'RE HAVING SHIPS, BOIS

>>53818480
Can you point out where the vehicle frame is

>>53818028
>Do you look for the leaked script of movies you haven't seen yet?
Yes.

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>>53818495
Sure. If you look at the P/T, you can see it's the same shade of brown as vehicles in KLD/AER. Card on top of that one seems to be a vehicle as well.

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Looks like Raid from talkir makes a comeback

>>53818544
Good spotting, anon.

>>53818335
FUCKING KEK. Look at that one card, ashes of the abhorrent. EVEN MORE white graveyard hate. Oh. and it shuts down embalm too

>>53818335
WHAT THE FUCK. Monogreen merfolk? Monowhite vampire? Is that an orc pirate wizard I see? What is happening?

>>53818546
Give us a closer look at this Leaker man?

>>53818598
Magic is becoming great(weird) again?

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>>53818598
The future

>>53818335
Thats a nice removal spell 2BB exile creature or planeswalker you gain 2 life.

I wish they'd put some cephalid pirates too.

>>53818598
The card beside the monogreen merfork is a gold merfolk legend. Can't make out the gold border color though.

>Tishana voice of Dunder?
>p/t = the cards in your hand
>you have mo maximum handsize
>when etb draw a card for each creature you control on the field

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>>53818598
Please Wizards, let UG Merfolks be a thing.

>>53818390
>4UUU
>Sorcery
>Target player draws seven cards.

>Enchantment
>Whenever a creature you control becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, you may draw a card.

>3B
>Creature - Vampire Cleric?
>Flash
>~ enters the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter for each creature that died this turn.
>3/4?

>3BB?
>Creature - ? Pirate Wizard?
>?, deathtouch
>When ~ enters the battlefield, each ???, rounded up.
4/4

>2BB
>Instant
>Exile target creature or planeswalker. You gain 2 life.

>Creature - Dinosaur
>Whenever ~ enters the battlefield or attacks, you may exile target card from a graveyard. If a creature card is exiled this way, you gain 2 life. If a noncreature card is exiled this way, ~ gets +1/+1 until end of turn?
>3/2

>2RR
>Creature - Human Pirate
>Trample
>When ~ enters the battlefield, draw ? cards, then discard two cards at random. If two cards that share a card type are discarded this way, put two(?) +1/+1 counters on ~.
3/3

>3UU
>Creature - Siren Fairie?
>Flash, flying
>~ can block only creatures with flying.
>When ~ enters the battlefield, if you control another Fairie, tap up to two target nonland permanents.
3/3

>3W
>Enchantment
>Players can't cast spells from graveyards or activate abilities of cards in graveyards.
>Whenever a creature dies, you gain 1 life.

>1G
>Creature - Merfolk Shaman
>Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, put a +1/+1 counter on ~.
>1/1

>Blue Green?
>Legendary Creature - Merfolk
>~'s power and toughness are each equal to the number of cards in your hand.
>You have no maximum hand size.
>When ~ enters the battlefield, draw a card for each creature you control.

>2UB
>Creature - Human Pirate
>When ~ enters the battlefield, exile target artifact or creature until ~ leaves the battlefield. You may cast that card for as long as it remains exiled and you may spend mana as though it were mana of any type to cast that spell.

You should be able to read the front couple rows easily enough and I'm out of characters.

>>53818335
Cards I can read well

Bishop of Rebirth 3WW
Creature - Vampire Cleric, 3/4
Vigilance
Whenever Bishop of Rebirth attacks, you may return target creature card with converted mana cost 3 or less from your graveyard to the battlefield.

So a shittier Sun Titan.

Ashes of the Abhorrent
Enchantment
Players can't cast spells from graveyards and can't activate abilities of cards in graveyards.
Whenever a creature dies, you gain 1 life.

Over??? Champion 1G
Creature - Merfolk Shama, 1/1
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, put a +1/+1 counter on Over??? Champion.

I'm trying to make out that UB Pirate, but I'm having terrible luck. I can see it exiles an artifact or creature card when ETB. Is it saying you may cast that card while it remains exiled? I think it is but I can't tell for sure.

Dreamcaller Siren 3UU
Creature - Siren Pirate, 3/3
Flash, flying
Dreamcaller Siren can only block creatures with flying.
When ~ enters the battlefield, if you control ??? Pirates ???

We also seem to have a legendary multicolored merfolk that has P/T equal to the number of cards in your hand, you have no maximum hand size and when ETBs you draw a card for each creature you control.

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>>53818701
Are you drunk, anon?

>>53818707
Orc Pirate Wizard has menace and deathtouch i think.

>>53818726
I mean, competitively.

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>When X attacks, other attacking creatures gain double strike

>>53818752
Ah right, I forgot Orc was actually a creature type.

Also, on review, it kinda looks like
>each player draws a card for ???, rounded up
but I still am not really sure.

>>53818768
It's a 5WW creature nobody's going to play, who cares.

>>53818830
Thats exactly my point. Stop it wotc

>>53818335
Hm, the ally Checklands explain why the Amonkhet lands had the basic land types.

>>53818707
ermagerd Fairies

>Return to Dominaria
>3rd Unset
>Magus of the Crucible snek (HOU)

>vehicles coming back
>an answer to planeswalkers
>Raid Bob
>green fish and white vamps
>Dinosaurs are now their own thing instead of lizards
>Vraska

Should I brace for disappointment or be cautiously excited?

>>53818690
That's green/blue, I imagine.

>>53818894
Raid bob seems to cost 2B by the way. So unless they give it a decent P/T, it'll just be more unplayable shit. It's probably going to be 2/3 and that alone means it'll be just rare fodder.

>>53818879
I think >>53818714 might have been right and it's a Pirate, sorry.

>>53818707
>>2BB
>>Instant
>>Exile target creature or planeswalker. You gain 2 life.
Is this constructed playable? Costing one more than murder is bad, but people play Cast Out too, and that's also 4cmc.

>>53818953
Exile will probably be worth the extra 1 as long as Embalm is in standard.

>>53818335
So it's true after all... Almost every creature now has an ETB trigger.

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>>53817943
Oh this set is gonna be fun.

>>53818953
There's also the thing that Cast Out is more easily splashable and can be cycled for just W. So don't know. Might get played. I'm not really up to date with standard, though.

>>53817431

>That spyglass
AYY LMAO

>>53819021
The exile being forever and the extra life seems like it could be relevant, especially in a control deck

...have we seriously seen more cards from Ixalan than from Hour of Devastation?

>>53819047
An order of magnitude more at this point I think

>>53818335
The planeswalker looks like a bird to me.

>>53818980
We should keyword ETB. How about... battlecry?

Someone working at the printer is gonna cost his boss alot if the source gets busted.

>>53819070
Dynamic entry.

>>53819068
That's Castaway Jace actually.

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So we get a few pictures of a uncut sheet with only a dozen or so cards that you can actually make out, I'm disappointed

>>53819282
It's better than nothing. Show some gratitude.

>>53819282
>expecting a complete clear spoiler of a product to be released by the end of september
You only have yourself to blame.

>>53819282
We know some choice info
For starters, we know jace is in
We know that the M10 lands are in.
We know that raid is back
We know that treasure tokens are a thing

>>53819282
It reveals the flavour/design of the set, and atleast that's really promising this time around.

Ps. Hopefully that Merfolk Legend is nuts and has a decent CMC.

>>53818028
>I thought opening packs and seeing what you get is one of the major draws of card gaming
>cracking packs
don't do this
and even if you did do it the pack is still fucking random from the set, if the set is absolute shit and you absolutely wanted to open a pack of cards you would be better off saying "fuck this set" and go open a good one

What if Jace got BTFO by Bolas so hard he ended up sucked Ixalan, lost with no way to return. Remember he an Ral Zarek couldn't trace her when she got away.

>>53819282
you know the next set is hour of devastation not ixalan you dumb fuck, you should be pleased we're seeing anything of this set at all

>vanquishers banner

5/5 bretty good

>>53819404
Considering his shit loyalty and the castaway theme, I'd say you're on poit with that.

>>53818876
I'm still praying that HoD has enemy cycle lands, even though I know gods aren't real and Wizards hates nice things.

At least we get some checkland reprints/alt arts.

>>53819435
It's 3 Loyalty.

>>53819404
Jace is transitioning and is seeking advice from Vraska

Why is Jace a castaway? did they finally told him to fuck off?

>>53819491
The Gatewatch is going to get fucked to shit and back by Bolas and end up randomly scattered throughout the multiverse.

>>53819526
>Randomly
>Liliana ends up on Dominaria
RANDOM

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>>53819282
I would actually suck a dick to get this level of insight into this set.
>>53819330
Don't forget vehicle Pirate Ships

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>thread on reddit complaining the leaks are too much and Wotc should make sure it never ever happens again, ever

These people sure love to nice sloppy deepthroats to big corporate dicks

>>53819526
>>53819550
Who gets to be the one randomly stranded on New Phyrexia?

I hope it's Nissa.

>>53819526
That would be one way to print less jacetice league members in the same set.

>>53818335
I think that RG dino has "Dinosaurs you control have haste."

>>53819526
>Bolas : FUCK YOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUU
>cast plane shattering spell
>Gatewatch : FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKK
>emergency planeswalk, bbye Amonkhet (suckers heheheh)
>each Gatewatch members arrived in a different plane
There you go.

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jace definitely has a new supertype.

>_________ Planeswalker - Jace

looks like it starts with an 'S'. maybe the supertype has to do with the copies it makes?

>>53819550
Implying she's not working for him all along

>>53819589
>The Leyline planeswalker on New Phyrexia
That's actually a pretty good idea

>>53819633
>Liliana
>Working for anyone but her youth

>>53819627
Nice catch

>Treasure

So it's Clues that generate mana instead of cards. Mite b cool, depending on the support it gets

>>53819627
LOOKS LIKE OLD TARMY GOT EVEN STRONKER

>>53819627
Could be Creature Planeswalker. Does the text line up on that?

>>53819692
>Creature Planeswalker
jesus fuck, please no

>>53819627
Sparkless Planeswalker?

>>53819627
If the tokens aren't legendary, which seems to be what the spacing implies, maybe all planeswalkers are being errataed to be Legendary permanents?

That'd be kind of gross, though.

>create 10 Jace, Brooding Castaway tokens except they are not legendary and not planeswalkers

Well, you guys joked about tribal Gideons last set.

>>53819756
>Sparkless
Good idea but what could it imply mechanically

>>53819680
Not if it's a supertype.

>>53819772
Would condense the legend rule
And make mirror gallery sodding hilarious

Could it be Gatewatch Planeswalker?

Like there's now organizational support for the PWers?

>>53819756
this is definitely something i was considering. but it doesn't look right to me.
>stranded
>solitary
>subjugated
>shipwrecked
>spellbound
>superior
>secondary
>spurious

looking at the word it resembles Sarlyllis....Salyllus?

>>53819895
shitty

>>53819895
SYPHILIS

>>53819915

Syphilitic

>>53819915

That's what he gets for hanging around Liliana and her creamy white thighs.

>>53819940
Hanging in and around

>>53819550
Maybe they emergency planeswalked and Lilianna decided to flee to a familiar plane.

>>53819915
I imagine disease, especially STDs, were common among prostitute-banging pirates.

>>53819991
They were, and Syphilis was ESPECIALLY bad back then. Like, the disease actively evolved to be not as bad so it could spread. That's how effective it was at killing you

>>53820020
How does that happen? Like, the people with ULTRA SYPHILIS just died off instantly, leaving them with no chance to pass it on?

>>53820067
Basically

>>53820020
>evolved
LOL the Eat India Company invented syphilis to kill butt pirates and blacks

>>53819627
he appears restrained in the artwork. his name is "castaway". the block has sirens. i wonder if that could allude to what his condition is.

since this planeswalker makes copies of itself maybe it's incapable of gaining loyalty or effecting other permanents and therefore has to rely on it's illusory copies to do things? the new supertype could signify this incapacitation?

>>53820099
Those 17th century genetic labs were hard at work, man

>>53820020
Isn't the same thing happening with HIV? Granted HIV doesn't usually fuck people up until 10 years after infection untreated, but I have heard of claims that HIV is pulling its punches with its AIDS lately, but that could easily be correlated with better treatment and education, even in 3rd world countries.

>>53820099
#woke, friendo

>>53820118
>maybe it's incapable of gaining loyalty or effecting other permanents
soooo...shadow planeswalker?

>>53820118
>>53820204
Ixilan is after Amonkek block, right? Well we all know what Nicky B is going to do with the Gatewatch so I'm gonna go with Bitchslapped Planeswalker - Jace.

Nicky will scatter the gatewatch across the multiverse, hence Jace Tom Hanks status. And for the next 2 years blocks wil be following the Gatewatch members seperated struggles to reunite. Less Gatewatch but still Gatewatch, kinda.

After that we will get the Infinity Gaunlet saga.

>>53820305
we one piece sambody arc now

>>53820020
>>53820171
> Evolution? HOW DOES IT WORK?

>>53820423
It's quite simple, the goal of the disease is to spread and it can't do that if it murders every possible disease vector, so shit that is too good at killing stuff won't spread as effectively as stuff that only half kills you because it has nothing to spread from unless you get bitten by a rat that ate a infected corpse or something.

>>53818625
Red defenders incoming.
The new color pie WotC released points towards interesting stuff, at least with creatures.
Still no crabs leaked; I'm very disappointed. Crab tribal still lags behind.

>>53818707
>faerie pirates
Tinkerbell legendary?
Flying green human?
>if you control another [TYPE], do a thing
hey look my favorite kind of tribal

>>53820713
New color pie? please show me this

>>53817431
females, poc and kangz -- yeah, I'm convinced these are real

>>53820770
there's no fairies. it's siren pirate.

>>53820835
I want you to die. This is enough /b/

>>53819627
i have been trying to figure this out and i am honestly perplexed. i wonder if it could be an obscure word like cartouche.

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>>53818028
I do not play the game anymore. Stopped playing at morningtide because fuck morningtide.

I still enjoy dropping by and looking at new cards in spoiler threads though. Sometimes i see a fun strategy and get the urge to start a deck again but then i remember what a clusterfuck mtg is and think better of it

>>53819627
Jace mindbroken by Bolas. Loses his day job as the Guildpact, setting up Rise of the Nephilim or whatever. Vraska has special planeswalking talents and if Jace turns out to be de-sparked or Eternitied Out, that may come into play.

>>53818335
??? Ceratops
5WW

Doublestrike
Whenever ~ attacks, other creatures you control gain double strike until end of turn.

?/?

??? Alpha
3RG
Last word on first line kinda looks like Haste, kinda like "X you control have haste"
4/4

Ashes of the ???
1W ?
Player's can't cast spells from the graveyard or activate abillities of cards in graveyards
Whenever a creature dies, gain 1 life


Mefolk Legend
P/T equal to cards in your hand.
You have no maximum hand size.
When ~ draw a card for each creature you control.


UB Legendary Pirate
When ~ ETB, exile target artifact or creature until + leaves the battlefield. You may cast this spell, spend mana as though it had any color.
2/3

Our black mythic seems to have deathtouch and menace I think?

There's a green 4/4 for 2GG that seems to have a new Keyword. And I think above the draw-7 is a vehicle?

2B
Orc Pirate
Looks like Bob on a Raid trigger.

2RR
3/3 Mythic Pirate with ETB trigger looking like +1/+1 counter for discard

>>53818028
Are you insane? No opening grab bags and building decks stuffed with 1-of Ancient Crabs and Sacred Cats is not how you play this game. You buy the worthy cards individually.

>>53821011
>Not playing limited

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>>53820772
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/mechanical-color-pie-2017-2017-06-05

>>53821001

I believe it's "Goring Ceratops" and "Regisaur Alpha".

>HoD

>Gatewatch lose their sparks from nicol bolas

>allows the gatewatch to not be printed every goddamn set

.

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>>53821001
>>>53818335
it's "goring certaops", "ashes of the abhorrent", and "Regisaur Alpha".

here is a flattened version from twitter

>>53821076
>Pic
How do you do this?

>>53821076
>>53818335

Kinda weird that "Goring Ceratops" shows up twice on the sheet.

>>53821076
Looks like that 3BB black mythic Is a 4/4 [something], deathtouch that says when it ETBs each player loses a third of their life rounded up.

>>53821107
photoshop. the fact that the cards are laid out in a off kilter grid makes it easy to adjust them to fit a regular grid.

>>53821153
yep

3BB
Creature - Orc Pirate Wizard
Menace, Deathtouch
When this enters the battlefield each players loses a third of their life rounded up.

>>53821076
Thanks anon, makes the left black card in the center somewhat readable.

3B
3/3

Flying or Flash
~ ETB with a +1/+1 counter for ???. Looking like "each creature that died this turn".

>>53821116
So is the white vampire.

>>53821158
It's pretty well done, it looks like it was flat from the start

>>53821186
definitely flying. compare it to the siren, you can see the descender of the letter "y".

>>53821076
Rowdy Crew (2 or3)RR
Creature - Human Pirate
Trample
When Rowdy Crew enters the battlefield, draw ? (three? four?) cards, then discard two cards at random. If...some condition...put two +1/+1 counters on Rowdy Crew.
3/3

>>53818823
"Each player loses a third of his or her life, rounded up"
there you go

>>53821076
There's a monogreen enchantment with 'whenever a creature you control becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, you may draw a card'

>>53817462
fugg for some reason I was hoping Ixalan would be azthec themed, that would be dope, I was already dreaming of my rw jaguar deck and my ug sacrificial elves.

>>53821267
Rowdy Crew 2RR

Creature - Human Pirate
Trample
When Rowdy Crew enters the battlefield, draw three cards then discard two cards at random. If the discarded cards share a type, put two +1/+1 counters on Rowdy Crew.

>>53821076
fuuuck if it wasn't for the damn thing being covered in light, the Emperor's Vanguard in the lower right (to the right of Bishop of Rebirth) has a rather long keyword action attached to it when it deals combat damage to...something.

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>>53818335
Guys

There's a fucking Vehicle

>>53821468
there are two. they're pirate ships.knowing wizards at least one will have islandhome.

>>53821407
The first line is "Reveal the top card of your library." Sadly the actuall word is unreadable, but it looks like It's a may abillity.

>>53821506
Reveal the top card of your library. Put that card in your hand if....something. Otherwise, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature, then put the card back or in your graveyard.
I think it might be 'if it's a land'

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>>53821407
looks like it's a card type matters ability, like one Rowdy Crew has
>>53821387

>whenever ~this~ deals combat damage you may Pilage (?) Ransack (?)
>reveal the top card of your library...
>~if it is a land card put it into your hand, otherwise put a +1/+1 counter on this creature, then put that card back or put it into your graveyard

>>53817431
>New pithing needle that lets you see your opponent's hand

oh shit

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This shit says "Raptor" on it right?

Any idea what the keyword ability is?

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It seems that colors are taking their own spin on other colors.
>Green Merfolk with +1/+1 counter prowess (prowess-like effects are normally Red/Blue/White).
>Blue/Black Pirate having an O-ring effect (normally White).
>White caring about (other) creatures (you control and don't control) dying (normally Black/Green).

>>53820713
There have been walls of lava.
I could come up with ways Red bends the color pie while still being Red.


(CCG faggotry ahead)


>x gain indestructible. Sac at end step (if it was damaged?).
Adrenaline rush causes the creature to ignore all pain and push itself to the limits, but the creature collapses from exhaustion or physical trauma after the effects wear off.

>counter target spell or ability that targets something
Red has redirect just like Blue, but not countering (except in color hosing). Does it count as a redirecting if it is redirected to nowhere instead of to something else? Dispatch is a teleportation spell even though it teleports to oblivion.

>whenever an artifact's ability is activated, destroy that artifact unless its controller takes damage
Stony Silence, but with Red's browbeating instead of White's forbiddance (though Harsh Mentor already exists).

>>53821749
Haven Raptor 2GG

Creature - Dinosaur
Tough - Whenever Haven Raptor is dealt damage, draw a card.

>>53821749
The ability word itself, no. But it's an ability word, so it doesn't matter - it's just there to tie mechanics together so people don't say there aren't any mechanics because they aren't labeled with words.
When ~ is dealt damage, draw a card.
Cardname is probably Clever Raptor

I have a foil 7e birds of paradise, I stopped playing when Odyssey left Standard, is it worth anything?

I came here to post about another topic and saw the thread and remembered

>>53818544
2BB exile target creature or planeswalker, gain 2 life at instant speed?

>>53821956
It is apparently worth fucking $350 according to star city games holy fuck but it better be in perfect condition for that

>>53821956
It's listed at170 Euro on the European market, so ~200 Dollars in the US I think.

There isn't much supply, so it mostly depends on finding someoen who wants it. That's probably gonna be a collector so I hope it's in good condition.

>>53822003
yep

>>53819070
Sorcerously stapled

>>53819589
Any of them would be good if they end up compleat -- but you know that will never happen.

>>53822186
>but you know that will never happen.

five years later you will be eating those words when we get eldrazzi phyrexian nicol bolas

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Can we just stop for a moment and talk about the card Hostage Taker?

>When Hostage Taker enters the battlefield, exile an artifact or creature until Hostage Taker leaves the battlefield.

I think we got a situation here. Either there will be a rules errata for those two shot effects or WotC is too fucking dumb to understand and properly word their own cards.

This card, as with current rules creates an infinite ETB loop with itself and an unbreakable loop on an empty board.

>>53818953
Have you forgotten about Utter End already?

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>>53820940
>I want you to die. This is enough /b/
yeah, wanting people to die because they post shit you disagree with on north korean origami cookin
g boards is very /b/.
Now kindly fuck off to reddit with your 'muh feelz' blogposts.

>>53818480
>>53818544
Triple cheerz for pirate ships boyz

>>53822295
Will you actually be able to end your turn when it enters and empty board? And if so, and anything really target it? Can it even attack?

>>53821371
There's definetly some Aztec stuff in it, but it's more like Fantasy Caribbean World than anything else.

>>53822295
You are correct. You can flicker the shit out of things with Panharmonicon, but it won't be permanent exile because the return effect is static rather than a separate ability.

There is even an infinite trigger loop with Aligned Hedron Network that can be pulled off with the right cards (A static Artifact animator such as March of the Machines and a lord such as Chief of the Foundry).
>In some very rare situations, Aligned Hedron Network may enter the battlefield as a creature with power 5 or greater. If this happens, Aligned Hedron Network will exile itself along with other creatures with power 5 or greater. Those cards will immediately return to the battlefield. If this causes a loop with Aligned Hedron Network continually exiling and returning itself, the game will be a draw unless a player breaks the loop somehow.

Oracle will probably fix this either by changing the oracle text or saying "Nuh uh! Can't do dat!

>>53819526
Bolas will kill someone.
Shame they will be EMBALMED/IMMORTALIZED

>>53822186
They wouldn't make one of their big name characters no longer a planeswalker.

>>53822377
you talk like a brainless fuck

>>53822425
hopefully it'll be we waz kangz lady so we never see her again.

>>53821481
>at least one will have islandhome.
Unlikely considering they don't like to make cards that punish people for playing specific colors anymore.

>>53822382
see
>>53822417
for a more detailed answer

in short, no, unbreakable infinite loop on empty board means pretty much draw unless you interfere with the loop
The question now is this:
>card errata
>rules errata

What will happen? Is there any other case of a card getting a functional errata in the form of preventing self targeting?

If the card stays this way I see potential.

>>53821371
It's Dinosaur riding Aztecs vs Pirates

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>>53822612

>>53817431
Can we know if that Draw 7 spell is instant or sorcery by looking at the typeline?

I'm wondering if it was sorcery, that we would see the Y sticking out. Since we don't, I assume it is instant.

>>53822459
have a (you)

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>>53817431
>Arcane Adaptation

Artificial Evolution and Conspiracy are some of my favorite cards and this looks incredible.

>Legendary Planeswalker - Jace
>implying functional errata to literally every planeswalker card ever printed
That's fucking hideous. What advantages would that even confer outside of making one ultimate function?

Literally why make treasure when you already have Gold tokens? Does having to tap them REALLY make that big of a difference?

>>53822811
Technically, calling it "Treasure" lets you explore a bit more flavor space with gems, idols, and whatnot.

>>53822831
can't wait for the inevitable tamiyo's journal reprint subbing out clues for treasure

>>53822796
It's probably to prevent copy effects (or future copy effects) that can't target legendary permanents from messing with planeswalkers and cheesing loyalty counters.

>>53822796
why would you think it's Legendary? It's some new planeswalker-like archetype like a shrine.

>>53822295
611.2b Some continuous effects generated by the resolution of a spell or ability have durations worded “for as long as . . . .” If the “for as long as” duration never starts, or it ends before the moment the effect would first be applied, the effect does nothing. It doesn’t start and immediately stop again, and it doesn’t last forever.

>>53822811
actually yes. there are some cards that have effects if you tap a source for mana.

>>53822811
improvise is in the same environment. That could make each treasure like 2 mana each which could be broken or some shit donnou

>>53822739
He's right, you know.

>>53822811
>>53822831
Have to agree with anon that it's just a flavor-based refluff of gold.

>>53822906
Shrine is a subtype. What's on Jace is either a type or a supertype. And the text of the ability that we can read fits very cleanly into "except they're not legendary."

>>53822979
I just assumed planeswalkers were already considered legendary since they have their own version of the legendary rule

>>53823064
They aren't legendary per say, but rather technically legendary due to their own version of that rule.

>>53822979
>>53822906
>>53822796
Non-legendary planeswalkers, in an attempt to diversify planeswalkers and make it a more commonly used card type in sets.

>>53817911
So Bolas does disperse the Gatewatch and Jace ends up in a jungle world where the second or third person who wants to kill him the most is playing pirates for the lulz.

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>>53818300
>>53822796
>>53822903
>>53822906
>>53823064
>>53823088

Making them Legendary seems to be the case to streamline the Legendary rule and open design space for planeswalkers while reducing errata on future cards that interact with either; on top of that having to only teach newbies the legendary rule once instead of twice.

>>53818028

Their fault for not revealing Hour of Devastation sooner

>>53823212
so tokens of planeswalkers affect their legendary rule? maybe it doesn't and they aren't legendary so you can have multiples of the tokens

>>53822563
Card errata. They don't do rules errata.

>mfw wizards leaked this on purpose so players would see any super-broken combos in time for them to change it.

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>>53823257

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>>53823274

>>53818335
>Fatal Push
>Bontu's Last Stand
>Disposses
>Lost Legacy
>2BB exile creature or walker, gain 2 life.

If Grasp of Darkness wasn't rotating Black would look pretty control right now.

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>>53823301

>>53823274
watch this be a jund god with deathtouch, flying, indestructible and double strike.

watch it get banned because reddit doesnt like good cards,

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>>53823312

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>>53823312
>>53823301
>>53823285
>>53823274
>>53823257

>>53823312
How is Nicol Bolas a Dragon? He is literally a 4 armed bat with horns.

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>>53823326

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>>53823339

>>53823338
4 arms? you mean his legs?

if that's what you meant you can say that about any dragon with limbs

>>53823339
I like how every time something happens on amonkhet, his horns sculpture is in the background.

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>>53823353

>>53823285
>Thumbnail makes it look like he has a giant stubby dick.

>>53823353
COULD IT BE?

>>53823363
Wings are generally arms. Note how his wings (like with most bats), stretch into limbs that end with a palm and fingers stretching out, connected by skin (AKA the actual wings).

>>53823285
great. comet storm reprint.

>>53823378
Lightning Strike? Sure.

>>53823244
If you make a token copy of something, it carries over the Legendary type with it, and you would have to sacrifice all but one (assuming you control more than one). The new planeswalker (probably) states specifically that the tokens aren't Legendary, based on what little we can see.

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>>53823398
You're dreaming.

>>53819526
We onc\ piece now

>>53823452
When will we get to the New Multiverse

>>53823378

Invocation Lightning Bolt, yes.

>>53823366
The oversight on the horns was retconned in a recent story article stating "they are enchanted to be visible from every angle on the plane".

How insulting.

>>53823534
>"they are enchanted to be visible from every angle on the plane".
And yet the Gatewatch took forever to notice them. The multiverse is literally protected by retards.

>>53823534
At the same time, I feel like that's the exact thing bolas would do with a very limited amount of time before the conflux

>>53823353
wait, what is that? A good card art in this day and age?

>>53818028
Please don't post in threads with topics you know nothing about.

>>53821902
Flavor can justify any mechanic, the color pie is for gameplay reasons over justifications

>Entity turns large river to blood
>Now plague of locusts

Bravo, wotc

>>53823745
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tVTEyuCKn4

>>53821076
At least the darkies in this set are mostly just orcs.

>>53822915
That rule is not relevant to this situation. Hostage Taker doesn't get exiled until it's triggered ability is resolving.

>>53823274
What happened to his legs? Is he on his knees or something?

>>53823468

I'm inclined to believe that since it's instantly recognizable, yet distinct enough to be in Amonkhet.

Maro said it was bottom up so what is the mechanical shtick?

From what I can tell we have
1. Tribal subtheme
2. Combat? (Raid plus a new one that triggers whenever the creature is damaged)
3. Some weird “discover” mechanic (Reveal the top card of your library, if its an X add it to your hand, otherwise put a +1/+1 counter on ~ and put the card on the top or bottom of your library)
4. Treasure, which are gold tokens that tap to sac to avoid improvise abuse/confusion.
I honestly cant make heads or tails of what the heck this sets mechanical identity is supposed to be. Can anyone else here do so?

>>53822979
My bad on shrine, so I'm not sure what the supertype can be. But for the ability text on MtgSalvation they came up with 'except they're not Jace' wording.

>>53823274
He looks so disinterested.

>>53823872
It's a God of bugs that was kept in a rape chamber for an entire generation and mindfucked by Bolas. How else is it supposed to look?

>>53823353
>Chain Lightning in Modenr.
Let it be niggers.

>>53823301
Damnation invocation.

>>53823845
fixed 'battlecruiser magic' set. Basically the set with higher than usual curve in limited but not as bad as ROE.

>>53823872
He's probably completely mindbroken. After bolas rips off your legs and shoves you in a closet for a few hundred years, that might happen.

>>53823918
>>53823301
Earthquake, not Damnation

>>53823353
>destroying pyramids
Clearly artifact removal

>>53823845
the conspiracy Monarch mechanic came from this set - similar to the territories they tried out in Khans, and Rivals of Ixalan also implies this. searching for golden city = emphasis on quests, like from zendikar, and resource management?

>>53823845
>Maro said it was bottom up so what is the mechanical shtick?
Breaking the color pie.

>all this sweet as fucking Destruction
>Bolas shit wrecking the whole plane
>meaningless because the gaywatch beat him with the power of friendship

>>53823999
TRUER TRIPS NEVER ROMAED THIS BOARD

>>53823999

Gatewatch are gonna lose. At worst, Bolas accomplishes whatever he set off to do when he conquered Amonkhet, then fucks off and the Planewatch survive.

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>>53823999
This is Jace in Ixalan. He's confirmed to be a 'castaway' by the text in >>53817431 and the outfit he's wearing is torn to shit.

There's no way that Nicol Bolas doesn't wreck their shit and shatter them throughout the Multiverse, for us to discover them one, maybe two at a time.

>>53823999
>>53824012
But then how would jace become a planar castaway?

>>53823934
Why was battlecruiserr magic such a flop outsidr super hardcore players.

I never played it, but I figured holding off till you had huge monsters to smash into eachother would appeal to T-Type players.

>>53823391
Bruh, most people aren't even able to notice the difference, and if we're gonna argue the definition of what a dragon is there's plenty of bizarre shit in myth that in no way looks like a dragon but is called one.

>>53824066
The main issue is that if done poorly Theros then you end up goin' through a bunch of turns doing fuck all and trying to build your forces

>>53824080
I just want him to be more scaly. Like in >>53823339

>>53824040

You can't read shit there, but if it's true, I will be so fucking pleased I might buy a box. If Bolas just shits all over the Jacetice league so hard he scatters them all over the multi-verse, I will be ecstatic. Like, you have. I fucking idea.

>>53824066
Nothing really. ALA-ZEN was super fun with Jund vs Titans. It's just that most times we'd have battlecruiser enviroments they ended up getting ruined by walkers like Min-Sculptor in ZEN-SOM, Sun's Champion in RAV-THS and Gideon+Jace in 4colorfuckeverything KTK-BFZ.

>>53820713
Don't be greedy, we got lots of love in Eldritch Moon.

Is anyone else just glad to see checklands come back?

>>53824158
I'd say it's an 80% chance of the Gatewatch being BTFO and a 25% chance of the Gatewatch suffering a casualty in the form of Gideon, since the climax of Amonkhet was Hazoret telling him that he is destined to die.

>I am neither the first nor the last immortal whom you will cross.
>Cursed is the man who forgets his own past,
>for I see your death, Kytheon Iora.
>You are no god.

>>53824066
classic story is that in limited you get punished hard for picking reasonable cards like 2/2 bears and it's not obvious that you need to hard pivot from that.

>>53817431
Oh boy, more action grrrrls as the only notable non-Gatewatch heroes.

>>53823366
The story detailing Bolas' takeover of Amonkhet revealed he went out of his way to enchant the horns sculpture so it always looks the same regardless of distance and angle. This being despite the fact he was rapidly losing his power, because his vanity demanded a sculpture to him be fittingly magnificent.

guess I'm picking up checklands tomorrow

the coreset prices will go back up to a few dollars more right? If I can get a playset of Rootbound Crags,Glacial Fortress, and Sunpetal Groves for $8 each I should prob do that

>>53824202
>Gatewatch suffering a casualty in the form of Gideon
I can see that. Gideon shields Samut and dies. This shows that fucking white males, even if they are good allies need to step aside. Ajani is a furry/otherkin, right? He deserves to be on the Gatewatch.

>>53824246
Shit, I remember when Groves were like $4.

>Hostage Taker is broken
Sceptic.

>>53824260
Ajani has already joined the gatewatch as the Selesnya representative. You are a little behind the times.

>>53824260
>>53824214
You're trying too hard to be offended.

>>53824260
Ajani's at least likeable.

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>>53823999

>>53818476
I dig this.

>>53824270
Huh, really? Yeah, I was absent for a long time, just got back for Amonkhet. Elspeth then. Jace will go on Ixalan, finds out that the society where only girls can be captains is the best and will first diguise himself as a girl and then transition. Then we can finally have a diverse Ghostbuster-style girl-power Gatewatch with Ajani as a token otherkin ally.

>>53824281
I'm not offended, it's just fun to come up with this absurdist stuff. I was brought up on the soviet-era doublethink jokes, and it is eerie similar.

I spy some monored merfolk.

>>53824423
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>53818335
No one has mentioned the legendary merfolk on the right side of the screen....

>>53817431
Best thing about this leak is no zombies, so now I know not to buy zombie shit for Standard because SOI rotates and Ixalan doesn't have any.

>>53824246
They won't be going up in price. The supply is already huge and it will only increase.

I doubt standard demand will drive it up.

>>53824495
It's a pushed-as-fuck UG card that's made for Kruphix EDH, unless it costs 7CMC or more.

>>53824246
Nigga, Polluted Delta went from near $90 to $18.
What makes you think Checklands will go UP in price after 4 or so reprints?

>>53824495

because its EDH jank

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>>53817431
>>53818335
>>53818382
>>53818476
>>53818598
>>53819491
>>53823157

>>53821910
hope youre right this card will give stompy a little boost in my opinion.

Remove Scurvy - when this creature deals damage remove all poison counters from target player

>>53818335
What's that XUU instant that has the planeswalker watermark?

>>53824464
It's not a shitposting, it's just a commentary on the state of art/character/story design.

Like it was pretty obvious that Samut is going to be a planeswalker because she's a stronk #resist rebel POC female, it is also obvious that if a Gatewatch member is going to die, it will be Gideon and he'll be replaced by a female/POC/non-human.

>>53821267
>>53821387
Huh.

That's not mythic is it?

>>53824626
>Return all [...] to that player's hand.

My guess is:

>Return all nonland permanents target player controls to that player's hand.

>>53824423
>Elspeth then
Elspeth is dead. How many years have you been gone?

>>53824066
When he was done, Brian had brought the Eldrazi to life, but at a cost. As I said above, New World Order was tossed out the window. Brian wasn't focused on Magic design, so this was the first set he'd worked on since we started New World Order and he just wasn't used to it. So when there were forks in the road that allowed him to realize his vision, he often took ones that led away from New World Order.

The end result was the creation a Limited environment that was unlike any other. If you could figure out what was going on, there was all sorts of offbeat gameplay. But if you didn't, the Limited gameplay was filled with traps that would result in your deck disastrously not working. Putting a simple thing like a 2/2 creature for two in your deck, which normally was functional, became a mistake. The end result of all this is that the audience diverged greatly on Rise of the Eldrazi. The enfranchised Limited players loved it. It was different and quirky and rewarded skill. The less enfranchised players hated it. They didn't understand what was going on and would always lose with game states that were painfully unfun.

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>dinosaurs aren't also beasts
Aw c'mon.

>>53824896
Bad example. Onslaught block is a case of biology and cladistics throwing their hands in the air and walking away.

>>53823934
Where do you get that from

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>>53824921

>>53824521
it's not unreasonable for each one to up a dollar

the blue ones are gonna hit $4, everything else will be $3

if you're a penny pincher like me then right now would be a good time to pick up playsets. If they're not going to go up in price, there's no reason not to pick them up now anyways.

>>53821033
>51 for blue
>38 for red
What did they mean by this?

>>53824886

>>53824896
THey have already stated they're adding the dinosaur type to older cards that are dinosaurs.
Hundroog isn't a dinosaur

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>>53825222

>>53825009
>the blue ones are gonna hit $4
If they see play.

>>53825222
It looks like some kinda fucked up synapsid to me

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>>53823257
>>53823274
>>53823285
>>53823301
>>53823312
>>53823326
>>53823339
>>53823353
>>53823371

Can I please get a source for these? I really want to see art of the three gods that Bolas tainted. I know the locust one has been revealed, but I want to see the others too.

>>53824101
I fucing TE OU AL I HATE LL OF YOU KIL YOULAL EAT YUR FLSHSKILL YOU ALL DEATH KI AL THE KIL ALL OF YU ILL OFF ALL YOU KILL YOU ALL I HATE YOU DEIE DIE DIE DIEID IE AL DIE KILL ALL OF YOUDEATH DIE KILL ALL OF YOU I WANT OYUY ALL DEAD ILL LLA OF YOU KILL KILL KILL KILL ALLA OF IKILL DIE DIE DIEIE EAT YOUR BODYMURDUR GENOCIDE KILL ALLOF THE KILL KILL KIL KILL

>>53824376

I am uncomfortable with Bolas using contractions...

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>>53825578
He's done it before.

>>53823353
Bolt invocation

>>53825796

So he has. I don't know. With how brutally theatrical he is, I always imagined him not using contractions. Maybe my brain change it.

>>53825904
How PATHEITC of you thinking you can dictate the god-pharoah's manner of speech
PATHEITC

>>53825966
>god-pharoah
At the beginning his end step does he draw a card?

>>53826033
God dammit. That's not the typo I wanted you to zone in on