Magic Story Lore Thread: Three Down One to Go Edition

File: C__Data_Users_DefApps_AppData_INTERNETEXPLORER_Temp_Saved Images_1494810181543.png (103KB, 278x298px) Image search: [Google]

103KB, 278x298px

>>53801384
And Liliana's third demon is dead in the matter of a short story. Good Work Wizards

>>53801384
I remember last threads people kept hyping up Razaketh.


woooosh, and he died so quickly.

This has to be extra buildup for the Gatewatch/Jacetice League to defeat another big bad using the power of FRIENDSHIP


To make the ensuing devastation Bolas inflicts seem even more shocking.

Also if that Raven Man isn't Urza, I'll eat Vriska's pirate hat

>>53801384
At least we are given detail of Liliana getting covered in mud, blood and sand.

She must seriously look like shit right now.

>>53802518
The author mentioned that she tried to give as much time as she could to Razaketh, but given there are more disasters to occur, it had to be short.

File: C__Data_Users_DefApps_AppData_INTERNETEXPLORER_Temp_Saved Images_1495073099294.png (944KB, 746x768px) Image search: [Google]

944KB, 746x768px

>>53802546
Imagine if Ken Troop wrote this story.

>>53802518
They didn't beat Razaketh using the power of friendship
They actually used their respective powers as a team

>>53802729
This was actually kinda neat.

Jace broke the demons control
Nissa/Chandra distracted via elemental and blast of fire
Gideon bubbled Liliana so she could finish her undead swarm spell

>>53802761
I liked the descriptions of Chandra's fire's effect on Razaketh

>>53802793
Also the Army of the Dead Animals

>>53802806
>Liliana sees and feels through her zombie hordes.
That's some crazy shit.

>>53802665
Source? It still felt underwhelming.

Liliana going full evil-autistic was neat, also Jace being a pussy was neat.

File: Capture.png (12KB, 875x85px) Image search: [Google]

12KB, 875x85px

>>53802944

>>53803010
>reddit

Of course.

>>53803010
I can respect her doing what she could in one story. He at least got way more than the other demons; Kothophed I can kind of understand because we already knew it from her backstory and he's the first one, but Griselbrand just got one-shotted while he was still off-balance from getting out of the Helvault.

>>53802518
>Also if that Raven Man isn't Urza
>Implying it isn't Mishra

Wow, Razaketh ain't shit compared to Ob Nixilis.

>>53802518
>Raven Man
I thought that today's story made it pretty clear that he's just part of her psyche that she projects another face onto so that she doesn't have to confront the fact that it's always been her making those choices

>>53803098
Anon, it's the main Magic fansite now.

Of course WOTC employees post there.

>>53804654
>The demon that the entire Gatewatch had to fight together against
>isn't shit compared to the demon that Liliana drive-by'd?

>>53804855
I can't wait until Gix returns and just slaps the Gatewatch around like they're nothing.

>>53804889
Old Phyrexia is dead. Let it go phyrexiafag.

>>53804934
not him, but i think it would be cool to see old phyrexia return if only to clash with new phyrexia. like, would they unite and form an ultimate phyrexia? or would each side disagree with each other's organization of rule and fight? i'd be hype either way especially if it meant getting some oldschool phyrexian designs.

>>53802862
I'll be honest, I was just expecting some magical realm stuff to happen at any moment:

>Liliana getting mind controlled and being forced to kneel and bark like a dog

>Razaketh's comments like "looking younger suits you"

>Liliana going through the mud and blood and coming out soaking wet

>Liliana feeling what the dead animals feel and giggling

LIKE SERIOUSLY I was half expecting someone to take off their pants half way through

>>53805038
Depends if old Phyrexia had negators. If so, New Phyrexia is screwed

>>53805113
are the negators that strong? i wasn't around for that era of magic i just like to read up on lore on the various wikis.
and because of that i always hope that someday they'll make phyrexia being descendants of the thran relevant someday.

>>53805153
Negators were designed to specifically kill Oldwalkers

>>53805113
>>53805153
>>53805169
New Phyrexia has Obliterators, which are apparently Negators but improved.
>inb4 someone says Negators could kill Oldwalkers while Obliterators can't
They're both basically sparkbane weapons. Against each other it'd just be monster vs monster and the Obliterators would probably tear the Negators a new one.

>>53804674
?
Her origins story he has knowledge she does not, that makes it seem like he is an outside entity.

>Where the esis root used to grow?"
>She scowled. "How did you know…wait 'Used to grow?'"
>"You don't know? They burned it."
>"The raiders?"

>>53805420
I don't know her origina story very well. Was she on Dominaria Pre or Post invasion?

>>53805520
I do not know Dominaria timeline that well, I am not sure.

File: Image.png (128KB, 223x311px) Image search: [Google]

128KB, 223x311px

>>53802130

Razaketh actually put up way more of a fight than the other two.

Kothoped got vaped in like two panels when Lili took the Veil for herself, indicating yes, he was a fucking dumbass.

Griselbrand got killed offscreen without even a real description of the fight because Liliana tracked him down and vaporized him while he was still woozy from his year in the Helvault.

Razaketh did a considerably better job than either of them, and it's pretty clear even with the Veil she would have been ten kinds of fucked if she hadn't convinced four do-gooders to come back her up for this fight.

I think this is mostly serving as a slight blow-softener of the team getting a victory early in and thinking "we can do this" right before the real bad guy bounces in and pushes their shit in hard. If Razaketh trounced them they'd need to beat a retreat before Nicky B even graced them with his presence but this win sets up for things going south fast, particularly since I still feel like Lili, who has gotten what she wanted, will bail on the others when it's clear they can't take Bolas. She has some slight fondness for the others because they're useful but Lili's only real loyalty is to her own survival.

I'm also wondering if three ego-affirming wins with a fourth and final line to her contract is...foreshadowing how things go in the fourth and final round.

>>53805520

Post Invasion, I think. She's some... 220 years old, I think? Giving 60-70 years after the Mending, which was enough for her to grow into an old woman long before meeting Jace.

File: Belzenlok_duels.png (461KB, 596x467px) Image search: [Google]

461KB, 596x467px

>>53805631
Honestly, this guy seems like he might be as much of a pushover as the others.

>>53805631
I think the fact that she didn't use the veil but did go a little axe crazy is more likely the foreshadowing to how liliana's demon contract character arc plays out. if she can kill number four without the veil but gets even more murdery, it may lead to the curse of the veil being more sinister than anticipated, or she finds out that the demon contract was the only reason she wasn't getting as monstery as Garruk and Ob Nixilis did.

>>53805777

>Raven Man says he'll only leave her be when she's destroyed all four demons
>She didn't start seeing Raven Man again until the Veil took hold of her

You might actually be onto something there, anon. It would be a neat ironic twist in that the contract she was so desperate to get out of was the only thing keeping her safe from the weapon she used to get out of it.

>>53805913
She saw the raven man before sparking.

>>53804639

Raven Man will be Yawgmoth using Urza's visage because he's vindictive like that. Anything less would be pointless hype.

Lili kills her demons, goes back to dominaria, and Raven Man manifests using her body and the Chain Veil, and is given a planeswalker card that is the picture of Urza, but the name of Yawgmoth. And just like that we have both an Urza and Yawgmoth card finally.

File: 1359153684973.jpg (194KB, 569x629px) Image search: [Google]

194KB, 569x629px

>>53805949
>Putting Yawgmoth in card form
>Not knowing we already have an Urza card

>there're people who still think wotc will bring back yawgmoth, gix, old phyrexia or urza

It's time to move on, guys. Best you can hope is a reprint, conmemorative card or some flavor text, but not bringing them back to life

>>53805420
>How did you know
Implies that it was knowledge that she already had
>You don't know? They burned it.
Never actually confirmed, could easily have been an assumption she made.

>>53805977
Blind Seer doesn't count.

>>53807445
Gix was never confirmed dead by any measure and we're going back to Dominaria. It could happen. Weirder things have.

>>53801384
Does it actually explain how each of Liliana's demons knows about the other? I thought planes were all cut off from one another now.

>>53810993

I thought the results of each deal were used to the broker the next deal.

>>53802202
To be fair to Razzie, he had Liliana dead to rights. Chain Veil or not, she was fucked before the others showed up to help. And even then, it was a pretty hard fight, all told and given that it's a single story. They all had to expend a great deal of energy to bring him down.

Poor Liliana, though. She hasn't helped herself get back on to the telepathic dick with her animal amusements.

Also, it casts a remark Bolas made in Agents of Artifice into new light. He said he wasn't interested in helping her get out of her demon deal. Supposedly because a quartet of them might be trouble even for him... but in truth? We now know that he already had arranged with Razzie the Amonkhet thing. Of COURSE he wasn't interested in helping her kill the four of them, it would be directly counter to his own plans.

>>53804654
Obby's an ex-Oldwalker. Makes sense that he's a good deal tougher, he has a lot more mana bonds to draw on, and he's also remarkably intelligent.

>>53805949
Yawgy is dead as a doornail. He's not coming back. He is utterly and completely dead, his tomb leaking corruption into the land around it.

>>53810993
I'm completely pulling this out of my ass, but since demons are black mana construct they can sense when black creatures are nearby or feel when someone is surrounded by a black aura/curse/deal.

How does him know the other demons names is beyond me, perhaps Bolas told him?

Now, demons are intelligent and crafty and they know other planes exist beyond theirs but they're so BLACK that they don't even care, their only motivation is to make people suffer or whatever, pretty one dimensional.

>>53814332
>To be fair to Razzie, he had Liliana dead to rights. Chain Veil or not, she was fucked before the others showed up to help. And even then, it was a pretty hard fight, all told and given that it's a single story. They all had to expend a great deal of energy to bring him down.

IMO they should have split the story in two, so it "feels" like it took them two stories (weeks irl) to take Razz down.

I kinda liked the gore descriptions (hurr edgy), with that kind of details it doesn't feel like a Cartoon Network show.

>>53809855
How did you know is referencing he knew were the root was, but "used to grow:" hints that she wasn't aware that it was burned down

>>53805081
>mind controlled and being forced to kneel and bark like a dog
Unzips pants.

>"looking younger suits you"
Not my thing. Will ignore.

>mud and blood
nope.jpg

>Liliana feeling what the dead animals feel and giggling
Boner poison.

It's hard to say how successful Liliana would of been if she started with the veil. I think it would of protected her at least.

>>53805081
Women writing young adult fiction always devolves into fetishes.

File: 1FoI0fG.jpg (109KB, 1000x737px) Image search: [Google]

109KB, 1000x737px

>>53824918

>>53805520
She's post-Invasion, IIRC not long after Scourge's plotline - so Dominaria is going to shit but isn't yet complete shit.

File: 2Qm7qfF.jpg (115KB, 1000x735px) Image search: [Google]

115KB, 1000x735px

>>53824934

File: CoEBkt2.jpg (127KB, 1000x735px) Image search: [Google]

127KB, 1000x735px

>>53824947

File: fKYvlYU.jpg (114KB, 1000x735px) Image search: [Google]

114KB, 1000x735px

>>53824973

File: FYpboLw.jpg (105KB, 1000x735px) Image search: [Google]

105KB, 1000x735px

>>53824987

File: JpM7JVz.jpg (148KB, 723x960px) Image search: [Google]

148KB, 723x960px

>>53825005

File: lbKbXtp.jpg (624KB, 1500x1102px) Image search: [Google]

624KB, 1500x1102px

>>53825017

File: veVpEIJ.jpg (92KB, 1000x735px) Image search: [Google]

92KB, 1000x735px

>>53825044

Reminder that the Jacetice league will defeat the evil male oppressor with the power of friendship and diversity and that Gideon will die and jace will be cast out for having penises.

>>53805631
Is everyone forgetting the point of Amonkhet? Rebirth into zombies? The demon will be back. They made it a point to make it look like he was torn to shreds. Besides with the death of jace getting spoiled they will be upsetting 75% of their base.

>>53826846
>>53826528
Au contraire, my pessimistic friend.

>>53827149
He's not dead, just mindwiped. Spoilers put him as an amnesiac in Ixalan.

File: 1455769038616.gif (2MB, 235x240px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 235x240px

>>53824918
>>53824934
>>53824947
>>53824973
>>53825005
>>53825044
>>53825060
Well those are some amazing pieces of artwork.

Also, the Jacetice League getting their shit kicked and Jace getting mind raped is the best thing that has happend post-Origins.

Plus, Dominaria and the new Un-set. Fuck. Consider me fucking hype

>>53827149
>death of jace
What?

File: IMG_7610.jpg (50KB, 265x370px) Image search: [Google]

50KB, 265x370px

>>53827531

No death, but he definitely get BTFO.

>>53827149
They made note of that in the story - Liliana specifically tore him to shreds so he WOULDN'T reanimate.

>>53827736

Well, it's not like jace didn't have this EXACT SAME THING already happen to him before.

>>53828088
To be fair, he's also done this exact same thing to himself a few times.

>>53827736
Ouch, now that's some next level hate to have an entire card dedicated to fucking over a single character.

>>53828256

It's a cycle. The "Nissa's Defeat" destroys a forest or a green Planeswalker, if it's a Nissa Planeswalker draw a card.

File: 1457994537446.png (23KB, 140x160px) Image search: [Google]

23KB, 140x160px

>>53828256
>>53828287
They deserved it.

>>53828256

Looks like it's going to be a cycle of "fuck over something that shares my color" like that cycle of Theros cards that only worked on things that were the same color. Only these get rider effects against Gatewatchers. Starting off with a strictly better Gainsay, which probably won't see much play but might be a dece sideboard card if certain things happen in Modern and is a flavor homerun.

Looks like we're not only going to see the Gatewatch get BTFO by Bolas, but that he's specifically going to beat all of them while crushing them with the very things they're good at.

>>53828194
What is it with Jace and getting his mind fucked? Sphinx did it to him multiple times, he did it to himself multiple times, Razaketh did it to him, Bolas did it to him now multiple times, Emmy-chan did it do him.

He's a magnet for this shit.

>>53829143
The extra bonus for Gatewatch destruction is pure flavor and I love it.

>>53829512
He's a telepath. He's constantly listening to everyone else's thoughts as well as his own. It's not that he's a magnet, it's that he is by his very nature susceptible to influence from outside sources, but also still dumb enough to not practice some proper defenses for it.

>>53829756
>defense
>Nicol Bolas

Pick one.

>Jace hurled the entire force of his will into a mental lunge. His mind screamed into the ice, and nobody heard. Like a closing fist, he snapped shut the grid of thought, trying to block Bolas before he-
>Oh, dear Heaven!
>Jace's mind quailed before the greatest power he had ever felt. The innermost depths of Alhammarret's psyche, the very core of the wizard's being, had been nothing, a gentle springtime gust to the roaring hurricane that was this single tendril of the dragon's mind.
>Bolas pushed, Jace squeezed, and for just an instant - precious little time, yet a far more impressive feat than Jace would ever realise - the young mage held fast.
>Sweat poured from his brow and froze, forming a tiny hedge of his hair. His head pounded, and the sky and snow turned gray before his fading vision. In seconds, what little mana remained to be tapped underground was gone.
>His breathing came in short and ragged casps, the frigid air burning his lungs. His stomach knotted, his fists clenched inside their gloves. He felt a capillary burst in his left eye, heard something pop deep in his sinuses. He felt a liquid warmth running from his nose, a warmth that didn't last long before it, too, began to freeze.
>Still the pressure grew, the mind-tendril shifting in his grasp, and Jace knew, without knowing how he knew, that the dragon had not yet begun to struggle.
>With a defeated gasp, he tumbled to the ground. His body shook, and the ice and snow around him turned pink with blood.

Bolas wants to flatten him, Bolas is going to flatten him.

>>53804654
Ob Nixilis is one of the most powerful planeswalker that we've seen, if not the most powerful
Karn is probably stronger but he's not a REAL planeswalker

>>53830670
Obby's not the most powerful. He's just several cuts above the Gatewatch.

File: stf100_bolas.jpg (44KB, 620x250px) Image search: [Google]

44KB, 620x250px

>>53830670
>ObNix is the most powerful

File: 1496862512512.png (183KB, 530x530px) Image search: [Google]

183KB, 530x530px

>>53831041
Bolas is a cheater, he doesn't count

>>53831315
Ugin as well.

>>53830670
Ob is in Garruk and Elspeth's weight division.
>Bolas, Ugin.
>Karn, Nahiri, Sorin, Liliana with the Veil
>Ob, Elspeth, Garruk,
>Gideon, Sarkhan, Liliana without the Veil.
>Chandra, Tezzeret, Ajani
>The rest of the losers

>>53831642
I'd only put Tezzie up with Ajani and company if he has time to prep, really. He's more like Batman than Superman, he needs to prep with his artifice.

Rest of the list looks fairly reasonable, though there'd be HUGE gaps between some tiers.

>>53815842
I loved the edgy gory bits, it's an old Magic I haven't heard of since Onslaught and Kamigawa, the primal kind that's just downright ugly to see, the kind that makes men throw up on instinct. I acknowledge that Magic exists and it's nice to see it pop up every now and then when we're not busy overthrowing the Kaladeshian bourgeoisie or watching crazy evil exes raise a rabble and seal vampires in rocks. Even Eldrazi usually just turn stuff to dust. Hidetsugu eating a spirit dragon for the glory of his demon master or Marrow-Gnawer just imploding bloodily from violating his blood pact were far more real and horrific than the Eldrazi ever were.

>>53827736
I'm going to absolutely put this into my Baral deck where most of the time it'll be (u) counter target counterspell.

Why does /tg/ hate the gatewatch so much?

>>53832827
Because Wizards wants us to like them.

>>53832827
I like them desu, I want to eat Lili's gaping old lady cunt

>>53832827
Sorry Maro, I'm way too hype to point out their flaws. Read some old lore threads.

>>53832827
Jace is my wifu

>>53832827
>Gideon
Retconned beyond any sort of recognizability, as well as having all the appeal of a moral do-gooder sucked away by having him be generic Greek Adonis hearthrob who seems to get uglier with each printing, for some reason. instead of the wet-blanket old guy veteran type he came in as.
>Jace
Overexposure. This in turn is ultimately a problem that hits the Gatewatch across the board with almost everyone, even those who like them.
>Liliana
Evil cunt who has gotten away with literally everything horrible she's ever done for no reason whatsoever. Also that whole Garruk controversy because women can't be hurt by physical contact even if they're objectively reprehensible pieces of shit.
>Chandra
Hoo boy. First, anybody who thought a Jaya Ballard knockoff clone was a good idea clearly doesn't understand why people liked Jaya Ballard at all. A character known exclusively for funny fire-related one-liners on cards has no appeal or business trying to be a genuine character. She's a stupid, childish, immature brat who has absolutely nothing appealing going for her as a character, and the fact that she's a redheaded sometimes attractive in card art gives her a fandom that should otherwise be completely out and out rejecting her. Baral's only mistake was not killing her quickly enough to prevent her spark from going off.
>Nissa
Retconned beyond any sort of recognizability, but with Nissa it's even worse. Not only was she turned into a bland piece of cardboard who can only utter the words 'Leyline' and 'Nature', but the fact that she was a Joraga supremacist has been shuffled away just because Wizards needed her to be an unambiguous good guy, even though Green is in desperate need of some moral grey, and a redemption arc for her would have been a completely reasonable direction to take her character. Nowadays she's just an expositor for whatever plane they're on, then kindly fucks off to do really cringeworthy shipping bait.

>>53834043
>Ajani
Nobody dislikes Ajani, he's the motherfucking best.

>>53832827
Because they've been shoved down our throats and travel as a pack when they really shouldn't.
Thankfully, they seem to have learned what the thing they're copying knew from the start: to not just use the same exact characters all the damn time. They're trying to copy comic books, but that doesn't work because if you don't want to read about one fuck you can read about a different one, but not with Magic. WIth Magic under the Gatewatch you're stuck with the same plot for six months. And the same characters no matter what. It's more similar to the Marvel movies than comic books, and they vary up who's being used - they didn't have all the Avengers in all the movies all the time once they became a group, because that would be boring. They did individual shit, and had things with new fucks. If they want to copy this shit, they need to do it correctly, instead of half-assed.

File: PW_Ajani_Preloader.jpg (311KB, 1920x1120px) Image search: [Google]

311KB, 1920x1120px

>>53834052
Truly spoken. Ajani is indeed the best, even on planes where everything is dumb.

>>53832827

The Gatewatch are a shameless, cynical Avengers ripoff. It's obvious they we're spawned in some awful corporate boardroom. They just wanted to make money by turning MTG into a game about super heroes.

>>53834285
I honestly would prefer that if Wizards insisted on main characters, have it be Ajani and Tamiyo on high-fantasy adventures.

>>53836076
>All of Tamiyo's adventures read as someone telling a legend.
>Ajani traveling plane to plane teaching people how to be awesome.
>A rabbit and a lion go on a quest to save Elspeth from death.
>They probably need a third who can balance out the pacifist and the researcher, let's throw in Garruk as number three.

I have a great need.

>>53836247
>two beasts and a hunter go on an adventure
Fuck it why not.

>>53836247
Nah, you don't balance them out with a serial killer.
You balance two furries out with Mr FYIAD.
Then you've got a pacifist, a researcher, and Super President

>>53833194
I think any of us BGx players automatically eat her Century Eggs on her command at this point, she's won us so many games she's to us what the Chain Veil is to her.

>>53834043
I don't mind Liliana, she's the most interesting of the Gatewatch, she teases the even loving fuck out of Gideon and Jace and manipulates the ever lesbians shit out of Chandra. She's worst when the plot doesn't revolve around her but otherwise I like her being a selfish bitch because she enables me to be a selfish vapid power hungry cunt. She's basically my spirit animal.

>>53836247
>>53837246
>Nah, you don't balance them out with a serial killer.
Yes. Yes you do. at first he's hunting them, but you don't hunt a literal lion-man whose collective name is pride.
I imagine it like this:
>garruk is hunting some young planeswalker
>it's being tutored by ajani so the cat steps in and starts a fight
>garruk flees, waiting for the next opportunity
>ajani follows him and finds tamiyo on theros, researching how gods work in comparison with kami
>ajani realizes garruk has some way of getting in and out of the underworld
>the hunter becomes the hunted
>garruk is bound with magic to collaborate
>they get in
>garruk meets elspeth, who still endures to not become a Returned
>she shames his abandonment and inspires him to redeem himself
>they fight Erebos for her life
>they win
>garruk can leave but decides not to
>Tamiyo asks them to be her bodyguards as the has more places to research
>Expanding her research on gods, they planeswalk to Amonkhet
>they find the remains of whatever the Jacetice League fucked up
>Ajani swears revenge
>they become the new Gatewatch

>>53837891
Gatewatch nothing. This is the motherfucking Story Circle. Fuck interplanar catastrophies, we're here for cool experiences, good stories, and to go home to our families and tell them about it.

>>53836247
Shit, add Sorin, Narset, Daretti, Dack and Sarkhan as background characters and you got me interested.

>>53838125
>The villain team are Tibalt, Ashiok, and an easily suggestible Domri.
>Arlinn shows up to help on occasion.

>>53838125
>>53838489
Nah, you've cocked it up again.

>>53827736
>see jace and gideon's cards
>both of them getting btfo
>see liliana's card
>she looks scared
>that's it

I really wanted art of her getting what was coming to her. She deserved worse.

>>53838557
Nah see here's how you do it. The trick isn't to make them villains or the gatewatch or anti-gatewatch. The trick is to make them ALL be doing cool high fantasy adventure stuff. One party's got Ajani, Tamiyo, and Garruk and another party's got Tibalt, Ashiok, and Domri. Most of the time, they never even occur in the same place.

But when they do finally show up at the same place and same time, its a big deal. It brings some excitement back to walkerfights.

>>53838662
Thank you Bolas

>>53838662
Thank you Bolas

>>53810351
I'd kill for a Gix card

>>53830670
Dude.... Dude.

Venser fucked the Phyrexians like they were his bitches.

Seriously. Just poked them and they vibrated out of existence.

Venser was GOAT.

>>53839043
Venser is also now probably being used to power a Phyrexian craft capable of traversing planes.

>>53839075
Venser's dead yo.

File: 63.jpg (60KB, 312x445px) Image search: [Google]

60KB, 312x445px

>>53839098
>Venser's dead
>On a world where death is meaningless
>see flavored text for details

>>53839121
He died on New Phyrexia, yo.

>>53839135
what's your point?

>>53839151
He ain't no comin' back.

We lost our Chosen One. So that a fuckin' living statue with no personality can have his powers.

Pffsh.

First Akroma.
Then Hanna.
Then Venser.
Then Elspeth.
Then Avacyn.

All hope is lost, bro.

>>53839190
You say that like Elspeth wasn't specifically set up to come back.

>>53839190
His spark is gone but his body and brain remain and are probably being compleated as we speak

>>53834285
>Ajani and Tamiyo go on an adventure collecting awesome stories and teaching people to be awesome
>They encounter Garruk hunting Ajani
>Tamiyo uses a magical story scroll to knock some sense into him
>He's still cursed, but he has control
>ajani tells him to join them so the monster can relearn to how to be a man

File: a0e5010eaba07a953c3cd562ec5f46ae.jpg (96KB, 1024x749px) Image search: [Google]

96KB, 1024x749px

>>53839232
Yes, yes...good, good.

File: Recover_IN(2).jpg (32KB, 223x310px) Image search: [Google]

32KB, 223x310px

>>53839190
>Hanna

She died long before Akroma was even a thought in Ixidors mind.

Also fuck Urza. Barrin didn't deserve that shit.

From the Ixalan leaks, it looks like a possibly amnesiac Jace is now some kind of castaway pirate.

>>53839277
>>He's still cursed, but he has control

This already happened several years ago in one of the mobile games. Jace stuffed a hedron into him to stabilize the curse.

>>53832827
they're boring.

>>53838662

Thank you Bolas

>>53838662
Thank you Bolas

>>53838662
Gracias pelotas

>>53838662
Obrigado, Bolas.

File: 1454977394885.png (16KB, 691x597px) Image search: [Google]

16KB, 691x597px

>that petplay with lili and razaketh
I can't be the only one here.

Is anyone watching this insane flavour reveal event cringe thing going on at GP Vegas?

twitch slash magic

>>53838662
Danke, Herr Bolas

>>53842768
rip, sure was silly but they seem to be enjoying themselves

>>53838662
Thank you bolas

>>53842719
You are.

Actually I lied, that was a bit of whyboner.

File: tmp_10727-DCfporMXsAABYP01441340670.png (174KB, 265x370px) Image search: [Google]

174KB, 265x370px

>>53834061
>use the same exact characters all the damn time
Here's your umpteenth Nissa

>>53846368
>Nissa gets ANOTHER planewalker deck

>>53802862
She could TASTE Razaketh

>>53838662
Gracias balls

>>53846368
Why is Nissa a black woman now?

>>53849809
Its the lighting.

>>53838662
Thank you Dragon Balls

File: chandrasdefeat.jpg (35KB, 265x370px) Image search: [Google]

35KB, 265x370px

>Chandra's Defeat
>R
>Instant
>Chandra's Defeat deals 5 damage to target red creature or red planeswalker. If it was a Chandra planeswalker, you may discard a card. If you do, draw a card.
>"Fire? Is that your only trick, Chandra?
That flavor text is gold. I so, so wish she dies and never returns that I'm actually hoping for him to close his hand.
>>53838662
Thank you Bolas

>>53851981
I want a billion playsets. I want to make a deck of it.

I want to foil out my binder using only this card.

10/10 fuck Chandra

>>53842768
Do tell, i didn't watch it.

>>53826846

All the Gatewatch is defeated and the gods outright die. If you're going to be an ass, do some fucking research

>>53853842

You know this shit is just temoprary, right? The Gatewatch will reform, stonger than ever, to take down the evil male oppressor.

>>53853689
UNTAP

>>53853882

Not this set they won't. The next set has Jace still dealing with how much he got his ass kicked. Or does it count in your mind if they ever defeat Bolos?

File: 1497631407945753.png (347KB, 375x523px) Image search: [Google]

347KB, 375x523px

>>53838662

>>53836076

Tamiyo has the sort of mindset that would work well for it. She basically follows her planar prime directive, not fucking up the worlds she's researching unless there is no choice.

The only real issue there is that it's a lot of green and white and not much red or black.

>>53854019
So make a decent red black walker.

Plus Tamiyo being Bant was only done so she wouldn't push the spotlight away from precious Jace by also being mono-blue.

>>53854166

Eh, white and green work well for her. It's a very natural philosopher colour combo.

>>53854181
I mean I get it, but I hardly consider it part of her colour identity as a being. Kinda like how the Blue in Nissa clearly didn't stick.

>>53854166
>So make a decent red black walker
Sorin will be just that after getting out of his rock

>>53854518
Sorin is not a good protagonist.

>>53854166
>So make a decent red black walker

I really liked in Kaladesh how the Aetherborn were very empathetic, especially Yahenni. I also liked how Yahenni was a really nice person because when people around her were happy, she was happy, which was Black philosophically because it was about her feeling good, other people feeling good were a means to that. Let's combine that with a good aspect of Red. I would say Red's love for Freedom. That also gives the character a good reason to fight against interplanar threats. "There's a Planeswalker who is trying to force the people of this plane to conform to the way they want to live? Fuck that, let's go fight them!"

So we have a sort of Roguish RB Planeswalker, who just wants to have a good time with the locals. They'll fight against interplanar threats and even local tyrants because when the people of the plane are not doing well, they aren't having a good time, so the Planeswalker is not having a good time. It also means the Planeswalker is going to fuck people over by being a back stabber; they feel it when somebody gets stabbed in the back and that is not a good feeling.

The big flaw is that they are going to be short sighted. They'll take down the local religious government that closes the bars and dance halls for a religious reasons (or whatever) without realizing that by doing so they open the opportunity for the crime boss to come out into the open and terrorizing the people themselves.

There. We have a Planeswalker who is RB in character, but can still be a heroic character both in their own right and in a group of heroic Planeswalkers.

>>53854667
>It also means the Planeswalker is going to fuck people over by being a back stabber

Sorry, that should read "Is not going to fuck someone over."

>>53853930
UPKEEP

>>53855731
DRRRRAAAAAAAAWWWWW

>>53853930
>>53855731
>>53856696

The Bolas guy was actually great. Felt kind of like pro wrestling.

File: 1459100267495.png (92KB, 503x257px) Image search: [Google]

92KB, 503x257px

>>53853983
>Bolas creature
>Nicol bolas does not have Bolas subtype
Retard

>>53853966
please this is 4chan, the gatewatch could recruit a blonde haired blue eyed muscle man that defeats Bolos through the power of sheer masculinity and people here would still cry that it's pandering to tumblr somehow

File: DBGH-bNXsAYCRP9.jpg (95KB, 1024x768px) Image search: [Google]

95KB, 1024x768px

It's all fine and dandy, but who was this guy again? What made him legendary? Why is he "Worthy"? Why is he Rakdos? He didn't even got a story of him fighting through the trials!

Of course I mean storywise, I get that discard is a Rakdos thing.

>>53858389
Also, this is all I found of him on the mothership.

>Neheb is a highly accomplished initiate who has earned four cartouches and thus a place in the House of Hazoret. He inspires both fear and respect in all who see him fight. He is a talented charioteer, and his favored weapon is a spear, which he wreathes in magical flame before battle.

>>53858389
he's the character you're playing in the Amonkhet set on Magic Duels

>>53831642
>Ajani that low
>When he's the only one to ever actually beat Bolas

>>53858389
I hate that they made him BR instead of RWB. We have so many fun Boros minotaurs from Ravnica, but no.

>>53825017
>>53824987
>>53824947
that's it, i call bullshit, HOW DOES HE HAVE ARMOR? WHO MADE IT?
I fucking hate it when some being that has an extremely unusual body just has armor that fits it perfectly

thats my autistic screech of the day

>>53846368
meh doesn't even begin to describe this. you'd think for a 7 drop, it'd have more bang for your buck. I don't care if it's fake or not, it's bad

>>53831642

>chandra that high when she can't beat a blu mage 2vs1

>>53858769
He made it

>>53858928
It's the starter deck planeswalker. It's not supposed to be good.

>>53858769

He was an omnipotent energy being that was also a dragon that was "downgraded" into a hyperintelligent dragon wizard that is a master of countless schools of magic. I think he can craft a set of fucking armor.

>>53859019
>>53859096
y'all are stoopid, equipment is colorless/white based, its outside his color scheme

File: vulshok battlemaster.jpg (30KB, 223x310px) Image search: [Google]

30KB, 223x310px

>>53859465
>tfw when the Stoneforger tries to gear up

File: IMG-20170616-WA0061.jpg (156KB, 1280x800px) Image search: [Google]

156KB, 1280x800px

>>53858769
>After raping all Amonketh gods, and killing all adult population on the plane with a single spell he built fucking huge Horns from nothing.
I think he can make his own armor.

File: Image-44.jpg (28KB, 223x310px) Image search: [Google]

28KB, 223x310px

>>53851981
That's kinda ironic considering Bolas was killed before by a Huge Fireball.

>>53858991
>Bottom tier of barely competent
>High

File: 300px-Conflux.jpg (40KB, 300x242px) Image search: [Google]

40KB, 300x242px

>>53859465
Bolas is all colors. Grixis is his personality, not a limit of his power.

>>53859720
Yes and no. Kolo Meha destroyed the shrine that focused the flow of mana for him and his anchor to Dominaria. But it had a lot more to do with the impact of the hammer than the fire itself.

>>53825044
Fuck me, are they going to ruin the best Lightning Bolt art yet with a shitty Invocation border?

>>53803098
Reddit is THE mainstream message board. I hate the place as much as anyone else, but thats how shit is. Deal with it.

>>53846368
That puts it at, what? 5 different Nissas in Standard?
Jesus Christ, Wizards, try and hide your boner for the autistic elf a little better.

>>53839370
>that smug blue control maining motherfucker EVEN GETS TO BE A PIRATE

FUCKIN' DONE

>>53858769
>nigh omnipotent being who can very well planeswalk to a world of blacksmiths and force them into doing whatever he wants, let alone magically create it can't have an armour
more importantly, do we know anything about bolas' armour? About how he got it or how it works if it has any properties.

>>53860253
Jace is the opposite of smug.
Jace is Magic's #1 spaghettimancer.

>>53838662
Thank You Bolas

>>53831642
Didn't Ajani beat Bolas? That's pretty impressive. At least impressive enough to put him on par with Elspeth

>>53860752
Ajani beat Bolas due to a lot of outside power sources from the Maelstrom, and his own specialty being hilariously strong against Bolas. He dumped an Alara's worth of mana directly into making a soul-clone of Bolas, and they fought each other.
On his own, Ajani's probably just below Elspeth-tier. He's best at working with others.

I would pay real money dollars to have the Jacetice League permanently killed off in the story. I've seen more nuanced characters out of a 12 year old's gaia RP.

>>53860905
I don't want WotC to kill off the Gatewatch except Nissa, fuck that elf bitch give me someone with a personality that isn't rewritten every set but I think the whole concept of the Gatewatch is flawed and stupid. Even the Justice League doesn't hang out 24/7, they have their own worries and issues to deal with on the side. It's only against the REALLY big threats that they all team up, which is what Magic should be doing. Make a set with 1-3 Walkers, a good amount of contribution from or at least the appearance of Legendary figures, and then when they finally figure out that Bolas/Ob/Tezz/Phyrexia/Emmy(?) is up to something, they all meet up to do some work. It's not that hard of a formula.

>>53860253
He's an amnesiac pirate who may or may not end up taking Vraska's python.

>>53858652
It fits better since he's a warrior and not a soldier.

>>53860752
If Ajani could use his power on himself he would be Elspeth tier.
But he cant, so he'll always be just the best support ever.

>>53838662
THANK YOU BOLAS

>>53861503
>"Ara ara"

>>53838662

Arigatou Borasu-sama

>>53839370
Late reply, but whatever

It was actually us, the player character of the M15 DotP game. We were being hunted by Garruk, planeswalked to Zendikar and tore the hedron from Ob Nixilis forehead. That's how Obediah reignited his spark.

File: 1489434896766.jpg (11KB, 325x325px) Image search: [Google]

11KB, 325x325px

>>53858389
also remember that of the 5 gods, Rhonas STILL has no lore time and hasn't even been thought of in the scheme let alone talked to or met in the story... even in the flashback
>[Spoiler?] they talk of the 3 missing gods being captured, kefnet getting mindfucked, dogo and mittens running... It really bothers me that one of the better gods of them all isn't even heard of... did they even mention anyone doing the strength trial?
I want my snek god or ima poison shiv a bitch

WHICH REALMS WILL BOLAS CHUCK EACH OF THE GATEWATCH TO, TAKING ALL BETS.

JACE ALREADY CONFIRMED FOR ONE PIECE CUS IT'LL LITERALLY BE THE MOST FUCKING PHYSICALLY CHALLENGING FOR THE PSYCHIC SHORTSHOTA.

>>53803010
>gotdamn
I want the PC crowd to leave.

>>53865054

>Gideon ends up in Segovia, where he becomes Gulliver in Lilliput, and can't fight unless he wants to end up ravaging the plane, therefore being forced to fight in a more defensive manner

>Chandra gets thrown to Wildfire, a plane where efreets teach her a 0 CMC Split Second Instant Worldfire, knowing full well she would be unable to master the gift

>Liliana gets blown to Xerex, where she ends up crazier than Braids, Cabal Minion and establishes the Church of Stax all throughout the Multiverse

>Nissa ends up in Equilor, where she learns from grumpy old dudes that the Eldrazi are both the progenitors and final evolution of all life in the Multiverse

>>53865289
Gideon is already indestructible. Shame he didn't drown in that fucking puddle.

>>53865402
Bolas proves he isn't.

>>53865420
Does he? Outside the "Gideon's Defeat" we can't really see him getting that much blown the fuck out.

>>53865436
He does. Getting past that indestructibility means he just got blown the fuck out. What level of BTFO do you need here, him getting assraped with his own sural?

>>53864614
Your snek fuccboi gets rekt by the scorpion king in the diabolic edict invocation art

>>53865487
His spark taken away and shoved right back up his ass.

>>53865502
Samut deserves this more than Gideon.

>>53865527
For literally what

>>53865551
For existing.

>>53865551
For being an objectively terrible character
And I use the word character lightly

>>53865564
>>53865565
for exploring ruins and discovering the whole Trespasser thing? You don't like her cause she's black, and because she's ugly, and you think she's ugly because she's black.

>>53865551
For literally being a speedster

>>53865602
>Get a planeswalker who's schtick is running fast
>It's a black person running from their plane's authority
POTTERY

>>53865582
Her card is overt EDH pandering with no thought put into it's design past "GOTTA GO FAST"
Being Black has nothing to do with it. She's even shitting on her two year old, Black, senior Kalemne by being a 'better' version of her.

>>53865636
Kalemne, what? This whole post is absurd.

>>53829512
It's his fetish.

>>53865658
Is the comparison only now just hitting you? They're the exact same commander functionally except Kalemne's shitty flavortext of an ability is replaced with a better body, access to green, an untap ability, and global haste all for a single mana increase in CMC. It's a kick in the nuts to any of the poor souls that wound up buying Wade Into Battle.

File: 8da134977cf5243a8b5c7fecc880a97d.jpg.png (173KB, 308x248px) Image search: [Google]

173KB, 308x248px

>>53857297
JUST AS PLANNED

>>53827149
he's literally a card in the following block that got leaked, so not dead just mind fucked.
>>53838662
Thank you bolas.

So who is ready to watch the gods team up with the jacestice league before they all get steam rolled?

>>53865720
No, the decks each would helm would be extremely different. You're fucking insane, just because they're both aggro.

>>53838662
Cheers Bolas!

>>53865814
>aggro
You don't know a lot about EDH, do you?

>>53838662
Thank you Bolas