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"Give Us Some Fucking Commander News" Edition

Previous Thread: >>53785660

COMMANDAN NEWS

>Commander 2017 Spoilers
http://mythicspoiler.com/c17/index.html

>Latest Commander Ban Announcement
http://mtgcommander.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=18588

>Latest MTGO Banlist Update
http://wizardsmtgo.tumblr.com/post/160343614814/update-mtgo-commander

ANNOUNCEMENT WEEK

>Product Announcement Day
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/25th-anniversary-announcement-day-2017-06-14?

>Magic Digital Next Announcement and MTGO Changes
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-digital/magic-digital-next-update-2017-06-13
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-digital/magic-onlines-fifteenth-anniversary-2017-06-07

>Metamorphosis 2.0
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/metamorphosis-2-0-2017-06-12

RESOURCES

>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.
http://www.mtgcommander.net

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net

>Another resource for commander discussion; they have an entire forum dedicated to discussing decks. People often make primers, which go into detail about how they built and play their deck.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity.
http://manabasecrafter.com/

>/tg/ EDH General Discord
https://discord.gg/UE9Vqzu

CARD SEARCHING

>Official search site. Current for all sets.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/

>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface.
http://magiccards.info/

THREAD QUESTION

Anything pique your interest in the Announcement Day article?
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>>53800612
P I R A T E S
Finally I might get some good cards for my Ramirez deck.
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>>53800612
>Anything pique your interest in the Announcement Day article?

Ixalan looks like it'll be fun.
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>>53800612
JTMS is much better than one sided howling mine for 4 though, since it doesn't die to Obliterate or Disenchant
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I was hoping for Commander news today, but I guess it's tomorrow or Friday?
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LEGENDARY DINOSAUR
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Ixalan looks dope. Hoping for some cool shit out of that.

Explorers of Ixalan also has my interest. I wanna get around to buying a big multiplayer product for friends and I. Planechase Anthology is on my mind but I don't feel like dropping the money it demands for it. Maybe Explorers will be fucking cool.

Ixalan gives me a lot of original Zendikar vibes. Cool exploration shit. Hoping that is the case.
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>>53800714
As far as I know this was the big product announcement day. Maybe we'll get info at HASCON or something but it looks like they're being vague about Commander 2017 and Iconic Masters.
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>>53800714
i am not sure if there was any plans for commander announcements.

I honestly was hoping today was the day.
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Meren or Breya precon for 50$ ?
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PIRATES LIVE!

That's enough, I'm excited for Ixalan.
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>>53800757
Do you like reanimation or artifacts? Value wise Breya might be a bit better, but they're roughy the same
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>>53800757
Probably Breya. Meren's deck usually has half of it stripped to make room for other cards.
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>>53800612
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/meren-loves-fungus/

What should I rotate out from my main deck and put in from my Maybe Board?
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>>53800739
>>53800745
Well, they're big on this being a whole announcement (work-)week, and Commander 2017 was already announced before.

As you can see, I'm grasping at straws here. The leaks made me hungry. I know it's far too early for spoilers, but something on the tribes and colors would be welcome.
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>>53800807
It is odd that we haven't even heard of what tribes they are using.

The only reason we even know dragons is because of leaks.
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>>53800708
it dies to damage
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>>53800805
One change I'd advise would be switching Pontiff of Blight for Skullmuncher. Pontiff ain't doin much to forward your decks' strategy and you should get lots of mileage from Skullmuncher. You should also be running Verdoloth, the Ancient
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UNSETS ARE CANCER
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>>53800717
Hell yeah. If they do make one I wonder if it will be the vanilla legend they've been talking about.
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>>53800971
So does your mother
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>>53801103
>not buying 2 boxes for the baller full art basics
>not running gotcha cycle in your cube
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>>53800612
>they keep making threads with discord in the OP
Ugh.
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>>53800739
>HASCON
Isn't that on september?
Isn't C17 dropping in august?
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>>53800739
remmeber that this is announcement week, the week isnt over
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>>53801103
U_____ ARE CANCER
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>hey guys can I play with uncards in my deck?
>no
>but it's just
>no
>I
>no

No
o
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>>53802279
Honestly, if someone asked me that, I would say no. I hate to say slippery slope, but once someone is allowed one un-card, suddenly everyone else wants un-cards.


Why not have everyone make one deck each that has uncards.
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>>53802279
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>>53802279
>they let you run Richard Garfield because "how bad can it be?"
>win as soon as he resolves

>they let you run R&D's Secret Lair because "how bad can it be?"
>60-ways-to-break-it.dec

I wish this would actually happen to me.
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>>53800612
In EDH, JtMS is a 4 drop Brainstorm as he'll die before your next turn. And beyond that, he will attract so much hate against you even though he is mediocre in EDH simply because of the stigma of
> OMG he played that expensive and renown JtMS!

>>53800651
Yes Pirates! MaRo has been snooping on us over the last year. He hasn't missed a beat over what we've been doing and putting out damn near every single idea the Snowflakes have had a year prior.

>>53800708
It does to literally everything else. Bolt. Hmm.

>>53800717
Legendary Dinosaur w/ Double Strike, Trample, Haste

Watch it happen.

>>53800732
I want my Pirate Walkers now, damnit.

I also want Pirates vs Ninjas duel deck.

>>53801103
Un-sets are fine. Let's hope for some beautiful full arts.

>>53801591
No one gives a shit.

>>53802343
Because it's dumb. Someone will cheat in Gleemax or 15 Cheatyfaces.

>>53802350
This.

>>53802415
Go home. You're drunk... or not drunk enough. Choose one. I don't really care which.
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>>53802706
Kill yourself, redditor.
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>>53802706
The Fuck is this? If you're going to namefag, be competent, and if you're not competent, be brief. This is just painful to read.
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>>53802706
Kill yourself.
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>>53802706
Yeah, I'm actually inclined to agree with >>53802766 here. This is just unnecessary. All you're doing is dropping no-context one-liners without any coherence or wit.

So, to quote the 1996 Godzilla: "That's a lot of Fish."
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>>53802706
Imagine a thread without baitposting. It is a thread of discussion. On the edge of enjoyability and fun, known as The Twilight Board.
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>>53802706
holy fuck dude yikes. please never fucking post again
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>>53802706
R/D is 2 years ahead, faggot, not 1. So really, you fuckers are just following Wizards' R/D.

Also, kill yourself.
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>>53802820
I think it's unironic, I've seen this shit before.
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Someone wanna explain OP's image to me? JTSM is substantially more powerful than a one-sided howling mine, but he's basically succeeded at making his point. Howling mine is decent ergo Jace should be viable.
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>>53802279
Cheatyface should always be unanimously allowed
Anything else is unacceptable
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>>53803101
this image is making me feel rashy already.
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>>53803101
It was a stupid comparison, that's the only point the image is making.
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>>53803101
JTMS is a one-sided Howling Mine for 4, and a black lotus is three Simian Spirit Guides stapled together!
It's a retarded comparison
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>>53803221
>three Simian Spirit Guides
don't be retarded, it's 1.5 Simian Spirit Guides and 1.5 Elvish Spirit Guides
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>>53803101
Jace in EDH is basically a 2UU charm for as long as he lasts. He's in that weird flux where he's a good card that gets you ganged up in MP, but not quite good enough to make the final cut in 1v1.
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>>53803285
Now who's being stupid? It's three desert cards that got stuck together because someone handled them with their fat piggy fingers while eating pancakes.
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>>53803390
I'd say it's you being stupid, for namefagging.
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>>53803101
Jace is overrated in edh. Best case scenario, you can brainstorm once or twice before he dies. Any playgroup worth it salt kills a Jace as fast as possible, because he is so value.

The problem is that that value is rarely ever taken advantage of because of the huge target he paints on you.

In a vacuum Jace is good, but only in a vacuum.
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>>53803433
EXACTLY! I'M VERY GLAD WE'RE CLEAR ON THIS SUBJECT. I WON'T STOP NAMEFAGGING BUT AT LEAST WE UNDERSTAND ONE ANOTHER. THIS HAS BEEN A GOOD EXCHANGE.
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>>53803871
I'm not him. Why are you namefagging?

>>53803835
I haven't played Magic in a serious fashion in like nine years. Could Jace basically be used in the exact fashion you're describing? As an aggro puller? Basically just forcing your opponent to waste effort on eliminating him?
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>>53803920
I'm Wayne. That's it.
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>>53801103
They're fairly benign cancer though, since they automatically flag themselves as useless cancer and are thus unable to spread.
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>>53802706
>MaRo has been snooping on us over the last year
If it means we'd get a Film Noir storyline in a pseudo-1930's world I certainly won't complain.
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>>53802724
Never been to reddit. Sorry buddy.

>>53802766
And what exactly isn't "competent" in those responses?

>>53802784
Impossible.

>>53802813
No coherence? The context is what they are responding to. Go home. You need to be drunk.

>>53802820
This.

>>53802843
I'm good with not doing that.

>>53802864
Again. People say they are "2 years ahead", but R&D really aren't. They are barely two blocks (now just four sets) ahead.

>>53803433
And how is it stupid just for namefagging?

Obviously I'm not the same person, but relevance, right?

>>53803871
Cool it with the caps. We get the point.

>>53803920
Does it matter why anyone uses a feature offered to them?

>>53804316
We won't. Sorry, Love.
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>>53805393
I bet you spitescoop and play Kaalia
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>>53805535
Nope and Nope.

I even bought the Commander Anthology set and sold her instantly.
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>>53805535
Also, I'm a pretty chill guy. I just call people out on their faggorty and tell people to cut it out.

That's all.
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>>53800805
Yo why Aren't you at least running the real OG fungus man in your 100. Shameful anon, shameful.
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>>53805669
No anon, you are the faggort.
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>>53805718
Oh no.
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>>53805694
You mean 99.
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>>53805767
Maybe that was a subtle way of suggesting that Thelon can be the commander?
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It'd be neat if nipmoot made it so namefagging or tripfagging without a reason was a reportable offence.

Also I hope ixalan gives me a nice RUG commander
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Just filter the dread pirate faggot. He's just fishing for (You)s.
>>53805832
It should be, unless it's OP and the thread absolutely needs him to tripfag.
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>>53805767
100 includes commander, but usually the commander is given. also partners go towards the 100 card total, so you would have 98 in deck. 97 because sol ring.
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>>53805920
96 because in a deck with partners, Command Tower is a must.
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>>53806008
61 because most people run about 34 other lands
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Commander news? You just got a Crucible of Worlds that can be fetched up by Green Sun, Chord, and Woodland Bellower. The fuck do you want?
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>>53806064
Those are leaks for the upcoming Hour of Devastation.

People really want to know what tribes are in the upcoming tribal decks being released this august.
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>>53806039
>34 lands
Stop that
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>>53806039
60 after mana crypt.
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>>53806008
95 because mana crypt, 94 because mana vault, 93 because sensei's beyblade, etc, etc.

>>53806039
land amount depends on the deck. the only excuse for not having cards that you can run in any deck is budget.
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>>53806133
33 even
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>>53805393
>this complete tard
By replying to that many posts in such a... fashion, it's evident you don't browse this board, or many boards. Your "commentary" is remedial, opinion based, unsupported and devoid of meaning based on the depth you addressed each point. I mean, shit dude, "ya pirates and Dino's, I want a double strike dragon, mind sculptor is bad in edh" is a flawless summary of EVERYTHING you said.

Bring the heat or get out of the kitchen. If you can't be insightful, be brief.
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>>53805718
This is 4chan. We are all faggots here. But, doesn't mean people have to be annoyingly over the top faggots.

>>53805742
Quit it or I will tripfag.

>>53805832
Why would namefagging or tripfagging be punishable? If you don't want it, go to /b/.

Also, we probably will get a native urg Commander in the set.

>>53805863
Again, you're being dumb. Quit it.

>>53806089
This. Very much this. I'm betting the tribes will be Dragons, Angels, Elementals and Slivers. (if we are getting all Domain tribes)

>>53806133
I run 35 and then rocks/dorks accordingly depending on the mana curve and colors.
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>>53806305
This is 4chan. We don't have to post like it's our paid online article.

You really want me to get in depth about every single little thing? How much of an edgelord are you?
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>>53806352
Do it. Prove me right.
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>>53806488
How does that prove you right? And right about what?
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Listen guys, I take back everything I said. I realize now that I'm a huge faggot. I'll put on a trip hence forth to make it easier to filter my shitty posts.
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>>53806503
Your commentary is not in any way needed or wanted.
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>>53806515
Cute, but even cute faggots get fucked.

Now back to the sissy threads on /gif/ with you.
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I'm down for banning tutors, fetches and top if only for logistical reasons. My Sedris deck (tuned like a motherfucker) pretty much can be Jeleva storm if I swap out 20 cards or so. If we were assuming unlimited budget, your options get less and less, ironically enough.

>>53806305
Stop. Don't respond to him, just filter him. Report him and hope the mods are worth a shit for once.
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Oh summertime threads, how I did not miss thee.
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>>53806536
No one's comments are. That's the point of 4chan. Quit being a colossal faggot.
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>>53806546
I literally cannot stop sucking cocks. It's difficult to post with a massive dick lodged down my throat, but I am nothing if not determined.
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>>53806536
I can't stop sucking cocks. I'm sorry.
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I used to think that land destruction had no place in casual EDH... But now I realize I had a warped view of casual EDH. I used to think that cards like Sheoldred, Jitte, Ulamog, a few God enchantment creatures, etc all had no place in casual EDH.
Nowadays I realize that these things are fine for casual EDH, but with that realization I've also realized that Land Destruction should be fine as well. The truth is that if someone is playing mono red they not only can't take care of powerful enchantments but they have very few ways to take out creatures with over 7 toughness or indestructible creatures. So are you going to tell me that they should either A) get very lucky or B) willingly lose the game because they have no options?
No, neither of those choices are acceptable. The truth is that land destruction is the most powerful tool in Red's arsenal, not using it puts mono red players at a supreme disadvantage. If you feel like you're allowed to use supremely strong creatures "because they can be removed" or supremely strong enchantments "because they can be removed" then I feel that I'm allowed to use supremely strong land destruction "because you can run mana rocks".
And just as you say "Well you should run more removal!" I say "Well you should run more mana rocks!" and then you can say "Well I do but they aren't in my hand right now!" and I reply WITH THE EXACT SAME SENTIMENT towards removal.
So at the end of the day I say this; If the point of casual edh is still to win, which it obviously is if you're running $20 powerful praetors, then I'm going to do what I can to win, which is to keep you from being able to play those praetors.
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>>53806562
Fuck you I've been here since 2013.
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>>53806560
Banning tutors, fetchlands, and top is ridiculous. That's just asking for the format to be casual as fuck. I don't need my Commander games lasting 3 hours.

Also, you can report all you like. I'm not breaking any rules.
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Honestly, I just want to be loved, even if it's only for a moment.
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>>53806563
>>53806564
>>53806603
>>53806620
Yeah. What faggots. Fine. I'm tripping.
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Chalk this thread up as a total loss.

Any spice for Teneb reanimator?
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>>53806620
Also, lurking since 2006.
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>>53806685
Lurking since the age of 5. Impressive.
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>>53806698
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>>53806603
Also, I somewhat agree with this faggot right here.

He makes a lot of valid points. I personally don't have a problem with anyone running anything in their decks that isn't banned. It's a part of the game right? And things are only banned when they are harmful to the format itself. And lend destruction isn't. Though, it is the one thing that I don't like seeing overly used. Especially when I'm playing a 3+ color deck. It kind of shuts you down.

I guess we should start running more enchantments, rocks, and counterspells. Hmm?

Either way. Play to have fun. No one has fun losing all the damn time. And that is something to take in consideration for yourself and your opponent when deck building.
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>>53806698
lol, that's cute. I like you. Would you like to come over and try my homemade Cajun burgers? Afterwords you can try my dick too.

We'll have a lot of fun. :)
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>>53806352
Honestly I very much expect Dragons, Humans, Slivers (with a horribly overpowered new Legendary) and Eldrazi (5 color Devoid Legendaries that have no lore support).
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>>53806778
>And things are only banned when they are harmful to the format itself.
Yeah, like Ad Naus and Biorhythm.
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>>53806403
>this guy
If you're capable of stimulating discussion, I suggest you discuss things capably. If you're incapable, or choose not to, I suggest you post anonymously, and limit one idea to each post, so people might think you're not some hopeless retard, just a mildly retarded poster.
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>>53806836
I don't see humans just because they can fit anywhere. So, it's not much of a tribal. Maybe Allies? And I doubt we'll have Wlsrazi since we just got bombarded with them recently. But, the only reason I see Slivers as being viable is due to how moderately expensive some of them are and how popular of a tribal they are.

>>53806859
Meh.

>>53806955
I'll give a lengthy and detailed post when something require such a response. Until then, you get what you get. And I post as a namefag/tripfag so people can better follow what I have to say just in case they agree/disagree and want to hold a conversation. And not just accuse other and myself as "samefagging".
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>>53806859
But Nauseam is one of those cards that drop in usefulness depending on how casual deck you're running, just like playing REB or Pyroblast as well
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>>53807063
*Eldrazi
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Is there a way to make a friend to look beyond the T1-T1.5 decks and show him that decks from lower tiers and ones that don't cost you semi-decent car can be good? Not like he can afford t1-t1.5 but complaints about how certain cards cost a lot gets boring.

[spoilers] beating him with lower tier stuff doesn't help apparently [/spoiler]
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>>53807137
Let him play a deck that wins, relative to your group. Teach him why it wins. If he gets a fat head, crush him then repeat. I dunno man, I'm reaching here. Nothing interested me more than winning and i never let petty shit like price get in my way. I brought a friend into the game and constantly bombed on him but he had this tenacity that helped him learn from each new threat I brought to bear. Through it all he persevered and became an excellent player. I wish everyone could have his attitude.
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>>53807137
>>53807232
Plunder the Graves out of the box.

Show him how a precon can be both fun to play and semi-competitive right out the box.
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>>53807137
It's like trying to convince a friend to get out of a shitty relationship, they wont do it unless they actually realize for themselves why it's bad.
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>>53807283
>how can I show my friend that low tier decks can be good?
>play Meren
???
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>>53800612
I, for one, am fucking happy about the leaked Snake-Crucible.

As for the rest, don't forget to filter and report.
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>>53807349
Hey, it's actually a well built precon.

In fact, I'd suggest putting two well built precons against one another to show just how fun they are.

Meren and Breya?
Freyalise and Ob Nixilis?
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>>53807355
Creaturible of Worlds?

Magus of the Crucible?
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>>53807355
Magus of the Crucible makes me pretty happy too. I just got an original Crucible of Worlds and built Titania so I'm hyped for this guy.
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>>53807402
Meren is T2 at the very lowest. That's not proving that low tiers can be fun at all.
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>>53807481
Meren out of the box isn't T2. A built Meren is T2 or higher. And again, the point is to show that precons can be fun to play straight out of the box. That you don't need a Tier 1 or Tier 1.5 build to enjoy the game.
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>>53807232
>>53807283
>>53807331

He already has Animar (only missing the crazy priced stuff from ABURS and up), proxxied Jeleva (I can understand proxxing a deck before buying into it) that's suprisingly not doomsday storm and later showed him FC Tazri, the budget lists. Bringing in lower stuff when I can doesn't matter when rest of the table is Selvala Casual storm, Ydris/nekusar wheels that when playing with ydris/partners does some crazy stuff that leads to nothing at all and somewhat tuned Meren/Freyalise. I know myself how power trip from playing legacy-lite can feel fucking amazing when playing Karador but always treating it too seriously from certain angle, like if there was some crazy tournament to be.

The fact that our little meta somewhat encourages arms race explains it a bit but still
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>>53807724
This is easy:

>Hey anons, how about a challenge? Take a deck, build it 75% for $100, and let's see who is the budget jankmaster of the table.

Depending on your group, throw in something like "After all, a good player can turn garbage into gold" or "Anyone can build a deck with any card, but it takes skill to with some handicaps" and they'll be razzed to oblivion and back. The idea is that you let them keep their current decks, but they're forced to choose a new commander, and build it from there. If you're really slick, throw out a clause like no more than 150 decks on edhrec and get them to build something uncommon. The issue seems to be they have fun winning, and given the opportunity, would do anything to win, so settle it with a challenge.
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>>53807947
with upcoming CMD2017 I can also try conving them to play all precons, but that depends on the tribes- I don't want another situation with multiple merens running about and most of them wouldn't throw in a 30 for one time fun I guess.

With your idea it would also be either all proxies+whatever you have.

Coming back from the competetive abyss I see it going 2 wayst- you either come out on the other side and realize that there is no point and play whatever seems fun or interesting to you OR you're swallowed by it, always trying to get closer but never making it.
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>>53808102
The precon idea works well, just hold like a "lottery" where everyone is assigned a precon, and you can trade with other players, but you can't edit anything for the first X games.
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>>53808102
Of that it comes to everyone wanting the same damn decks out of the CMD17 decks, then try holding a tournament with them. If you have only four people you want to play, then each one buys only one of them. You can decide who buys what deck by drawing names, rolling dice, and so forth. Then have a prize for the winner. If I were you, I'd pick one of my own cards as prize support. Probably a $20 card. If you're not so generous, then perhaps everyone chips in $5 - $10. I wouldn't make it single elimination though if this is the case. Perhaps 1v1 against everyone. Then losers bracket and winners bracket. The two winners play then the two losers play. Then the winner of those two matches play and the winner of that match gets the prize.
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Does anyone run Olivia mobilized for war? I'm adding in archfiend of ifnir and i need more self discard in rakdos. I have the cycling lands, decree of pain, and ash barrens. What are some good discard outlets, preferably at instant speed?
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>>53808416
Volrath isn't bad. I like Phyrexian Reclamation. Looting effects are fantastic, particularly with ifnir. If you're a giant dick, run delirium skeins, necrogen mists, memory jar, and dark deal.
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>>53808509

Damn Volrath looks spicy as fuck. Especially when i pitch it that betrays or sire of stagnation to the graveyard and then bring them back with haste.
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>>53808340
fine ill make a real trip
i'm the OP
please don't take my name
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>>53808620
>>53808340
no what the fuck
why are people taking my name
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>>53808633
>>53808620
>>53808340
okay cut the jokes this isn't funny
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>tfw the convicted rapist at my lgs mindslaved me

I conceded on the spot.
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>>53808680
wait why play with people like that
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Any thoughts on which tribes are left for Commander 2017? I'm betting that Angels will get a spot.
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>>53808737
Angels and Eldrazis would be nice
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>>53808680
Shhh, just let it happen.
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>>53808765
COMPLIANCE IS NOT CONSENT
I NEED AN ADULT
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>>53808680
>going to lgs
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>>53808737
Y'know what? I'd be down with zombies at this point, but they NEED to do something cool. I'm talking innovate, neat, interesting and fun to make up for Ludvic.

Perhaps something like "Whenever a zombie you control attacks, it gains deathtouch until the end of turn".
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I bought the anthology and curious about upgrades.
Kaalia, Freyalise, and Meren seem more obvious, but what the fuck do I do with this?
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>>53809126

unfortunately this one is totally trash and the 99 makes no sense whatsoever
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>Return to Dominaria

You all know what this means, right?
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>>53808737
>>53808744

Angels have a good shot, especially since the duel deck makes Merfolk and Goblins unlikely, and the C2014 deck rules out Elves.

If you're looking at the most popular and/or iconic tribes, and you rule out Elves, Merfolk, and Goblins, Angels vault up the list pretty quickly. Plus, it's good to have another flying tribe to weigh against Dragons.

My personal guess is Dragons, Angels, Wizards, and Elementals.
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>>53809153
New Radha.
Please new Radha.
Please please new Radha.
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>>53809153
What if it's Post-apocalyptic Dominaria
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>>53809260
Since it's canonically only been 60 years, she's half-elf, and Venser was doin' fine... yeah, I could really go for "Radha, Keldon Warlord"
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>>53809298
Isn't that just Dominaria? Hasn't it had like three separate apocalypses? Sylex Blast, Rathi Overlay, Mending.
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>>53809342
Yeah, dominaria has an apocolypse about every 100 years
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I'm building a Sherei Shizo's Caretaker deck, and do you think this might work well in it? Since it would make any two power creatures, mainly Gary and Falkenrath Noble. Of course, it would make all the 1 toughness creatures die, but they would still re-enter at the end step


http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/im-not-going-to-be-your-sacrifice/


>>53809153
Sliver plainswalker? Sliver plainswalker!
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>>53808620
lol, You're great. Love it.

>>53808633
Now you're just pushing it.

>>53808650
Yeppers.

>>53808714
Don't make me go back to Vro-chan.

>>53809299
> Venser is doing fine
And not totally dead? I only wish.

>>53809446
> every 100 years
> not every fucking block it's featured in
> MtG's equivalent to the X-Mansion
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>>53809446
As long as we get cool cards, I'm happy with it. I'd be hella pissed about a shitty new Urza walker.
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>>53809507
>Venser sacrificed his PW spark for Karn
>therefore Radha is dead of old age
Try reading.
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>>53809631
You are telling me to read when what you are saying is saying that I'm right.

I know what happened to Venser. He was my favorite Planeswalker.
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>>53809657
You changed the tense.
>Venser was fine
Venser was not dead of old age.
To
>Venser is fine
Which was never said.
Try reading.
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>>53809674
When did "Venser being dead of old age" ever brought up? I never saw anyone stating that.
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>>53809472
>Sliver plainswalker? Sliver plainswalker!

Dude, I too like to dream, but it has been stated several times that it won't happen.
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>>53809472
SHUT FUCK UP ABOUT SLIVER
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>>53809799
1) Someone asks for new Radha.
2) Someone points out that it works on a timeline, especially since Venser was not dead of old age.
3) You are retarded.
Try reading.
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>>53809126

Derevi is a S I C K stax commander and Roon is janky fun

Rubinia is ???
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>>53809813
>>53809837
One day...
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>>53807402

Meren goes toe to toe with Ezuri's precon in my short-lived experience playing the vanilla commander decks.

She doesn't packs boardwipes and Ezuri's value is inferior but does well against everything Meren wants to do
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>>53807137

Teach him the way of Mono-red.

Show him how the literal worst mono color in the history of magic can wreck shit here
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>>53809928
???

Monored is perfectly fine in commander. Is it t1 RDW-style efficiency? Fuck no. Is it more than competent with a few artifacts? Absolutely.
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Walker NEOW!
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>>53809842
> someone points out
Literally you? Just you. No one else has ever said that. So, again... why are you rambling on about random nonsense?

>>53809899
And that day will never come. Stick to your janky flakes.

>>53809900
My point exactly.

>>53809966
I just want a legendary Questing Phelddagrif.
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>>53809966
How does the ol' Phelddagrif deck work? I know there's some sort of trick, but it's been a while.
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>>53810079
What decks do you play? What's your meta look like?
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>>53809865
Rubinia makes a fun enchantress Commander.
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>>53810155
Politics with stax package.
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>>53810079
>Literally you?
At least two of us, namefag. I dropped the initial comment which most people were non-autistic enough to correctly interpret as inferring Radha's likely continued life and activity from several facts, including the fact that her former adventuring partner was still being played by David Tenant in modern times.

Then there's the anon who's actually been arguing with you ever since because you are so fucking butthurt over the fact that a mediocre character (I would have said bad, but since then we've gotten the Gatewatch which has badly lowered my standards) is currently being autopsied by Jin-Gitaxias or something. I even made fucking sure to refer to him in the past tense.
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>>53810079
I dont want it to happen though
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>>53810246
Well, I only have three EDH decks myself. Four if you count Evasive Maneuvers that is haven't opened from the Commander Anthology deck.

I mostly play casual Normal games. I have a couple of Standard decks, a couple of Modern decks, and a couple of Legacy decks. But, mostly casual. And I say casual because they aren't legal in said formats.

And my Meta is spread out. But, slightly competitive.

Pic is a few of my main decks.
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>>53810583
Oh jesus...
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>>53810651
And what about them?
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>>53809126
Derevi is extremely good but the deck is not cohesive. Scrap it for parts for other decks desu. Roon is decent as a casual blink deck, not rude like Brago.
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>go to lgs
>play
>start beating on someone
>can take them out at any time
>they always take it fucking personally and get legit pissy
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>>53810583
>people that bring suitcases to fnm
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>>53811298
> to FNM
When I play at tournaments I leave it in the car. I only take it around when I know that I'll be playing it.
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>>53811298
Also, it's not a suitcase. It's a PirateLab deck case. They have small and large cases. They are quite nice and convienient.
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>>53811473
I know a guy who has been playing since Arabian nights and someone broke into his car and stole his card case. Lost a huge chunk of his collection. Nerdthieves break into cars to steal magic cards. Just a word of warning my fellow anon.
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>>53811546
It stays in my trunk. And no one is breaking into my car as you can see it from outside of the cardshop. Also, people around here don't tend to break into cars that look like they have car alarms.
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>>53811546
Also, I'm sorry to hear that happened to your friend. Shit really sucks. Some people are just real asshats. And it really sucks that they were fellow Magic players.
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>>53811585

Hahaha, you would drive that...."thing".

> Motley Crew CD stuck in the CD player but it's coo because you wouldn't play any other.
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>>53811585
>having a picture of your car and a picture of your decks available on demand
>posting them on /tg/
Literally why? Do you know where you are?
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>>53811585
>>53811539
Sleek car, what do you do for a living?
Also, mirin your cases.
>>53811598
I wouldn't call him a friend, he's sort of a 'that guy'. Still wouldn't wish ill on him or anyone else. I've found that nerds especially magic and SSBM nerds are pretty frequently thieves, at least more so than your average person.
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>>53811627
I don't listen to Montley Crew. Amusing choice of your's though, considering my current handle.

Also, that "thing" is a Terminator Cobra. Only made for two years. It has a 4 cam 4 valve V8, only comes in a 6 speed manual, beefy 8.8" IRS, supercharged from factory, fully built bottom end. Stock it's a mid 12-sec car. Mine isn't stock though.

So, say what you want. But, it's a respected car in the car culture.

But, that's only one part of my passion. Another part being Magic obviously.
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>>53811713
>I am autistic in multiple disciplines.
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>>53811656
Yes. And Ask me if I care what people say about either.

>>53811679
Thanks. And I'm a CDL driver. And I too hate to hear about people having things stolen from them regardless of who they are or what kind of person they are. Especially from people of the same nerd community. Sometimes people let their greed/envy outweigh their sense of brotherhood.
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>>53803956

No, I'm Wayne.
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>>53811784
If you say so.
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>>53811802
No, I'm afraid not.
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>>53811713

I would skip 8 and go straight to the now dead V12. Maserati or Aston Martin.

Class...it's in session.
B)
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>>53811855
Then be afraid.
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unironically thinking of printing this out and putting it in my deck!

aren't i zany and unique, much like my username!
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This is so fucking awful.
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>>53800612
>Anything pique your interest in the Announcement Day article?
Dinosaurs
The only thing I honestly care about is dinosaurs and maybe full art lands from the new un set
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>>53811902
Ok, so in any other thread I'd love to do this, but /EDH/ is one of the few threads that really has nothing wrong with it(other than its recent infestation of Pirates), and thus I'd like to stay in relative good standing with it. I was really just here because I wanted feedback on my Meren Deck, >>53800805. So, I'm gonna back out and leave you guys to it. Remember, please Wayne responsibly.
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>>53801630
>C17
Daily reminder that from now on C___ will now stand for core sets and CMDR will probably have to get another denomination
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>>53812020
We will be getting legendary pirates and dinosaurs in the same set. This is like munchkin
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Who gave all the underage posters trip code fuck this is straight cancer
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>>53800612
>question
Honestly I think Ixalan is about to be badass, an alternate Zendikar. I'm
also hopeful the gatewatch won't be here at all
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>>53812049
>mtg did this so that core sets will finally be released in the same year as their name
You are now manually realizing they removed core sets for 2 years because someone's OCD was going off
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>>53811895
Then you'd choose wrong. The bottom ends on the Terminator engines can support over 1200 rwhp. So, I'm good.

Also, buying hose cars/engines aren't exactly what you expect. The maintenance alone for one will be more than you'll pay for the whole damn engine. Everything is extremely expensive when it comes to parts. And I'd rather have superior performance than the bragging rights of having a V12.

>>53812049
You don't think they will go back to M__, like M18?

>>53812054
Yes we will. Oh yes we will. And I love it.

>>53812143
It has Vraska in it. We'll probabaly get Jace and Liliana at the very least.
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>>53812183
*Also, buying those cars/engines (exotics with V12's)
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Purchased that thing with the Welcome Deck 2016 in it. I was hoping it would be worth something someday because "we used to have these things called "Core Sets" but they're old school, you don't even know".
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>>53812183
Well they are fine. It's when they swarm that it gets awful. I like most of them individually.
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>>53812204
In the long run, it will have only been a 2 year skip. Probably not worth anything
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>>53812200

My STi can support over a thousand Awhp too except all wheel drive is superior to rear wheel, so...yeah, I can post big numbers too.
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>>53812220
Jace is not fine. He is the embodiment of all of the autism of 4chan.
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>>53812242
>Jace is not fine. He is the embodiment of all of the autism of 4chan.
Unironically Jace is no longer a problem, and hasn't been for a while, particularly when compared to the female members of the gatewatch. I'd take 10,000 smug wizard quotes and milquetoast stories over whatever the fuck Chandra is.
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>>53812237
1) That is horribly inaccurate. STi engines need tuning for literally every single upgrade. They're bottom end shits out around 450-500 awhp. The only affordable awd cars that can hold upwards of 800 awhp is the Evo and the SHO. That's it. And even then they need built bottom ends. Like I said, a Terminator bottom end can withstand upwards of 1200 rwhp.

2) AWHP is only as good as it's computer system. It's not inherently superior to RWD cars. This is why STi's still get beat by RX7's. Well, the difference in weight helps too. But, that isn't as much as a factor as most would think.
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>>53812267
Well, Jace still thinks he knows it all and has been wrong every single time. He's not just smug. He thinks his superior mental capabilities equates to superior intellect. Which his is sorely mistaken. That previous pic of mine related.

And Chandra is a hotheaded firecrotch. And she's hot. So... yeah. That's all I require of her character.
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I wish that there would be an announcement as to what tribal decks would be in C17 this weekend, if only to know if I should buy shit now or later.
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>>53809299
Didn't venser ages slower cause of magic time water or something though
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>>53812346
He had a potion that kept him alive. He was severely injured from trying the Planeswalk with too many artifacts and lost some of his organs. Thus, he kept drinking the potion to keep himself alive.
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>>53812306
Dragons, Avatars, Atogs, and Riggers
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>>53812304
>And Chandra is a hotheaded firecrotch. And she's hot. So... yeah. That's all I require of her character.
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>>53812279

k...

https://youtu.be/O3o0N0cDQQU
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>>53812304
You are so obviously a child. That's why you relate to Chandra. Jace hasn't been a smug punk in a long time, if anything he has anxiety, and he's one of the only 2 or 3 bearable members.
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>>53812432

aww...he made it rwd, but still, point still made.
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cobra anon get the fuck out of here.
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>>53812419
Who cares about your Spongebob fascination.

>>53812432
Again. Do you understand what "stock bottom end" means? That 22B doesn't have a stock bottom end.

>>53812448
I don't relate to Chandra. I just don't expect much from her character. And Jace just shown in SOI that he's as incompetent as ever when it comes to trying to figure shit out. And if he is one of the "two or three bearable characters" to you, then that just means you're an edgelord. Let me guess, the other two are Lili-pad and Sorin the Wall type Planeswalker?

>>53812451
Making them rwd makes it cheaper for maintenance when something breaks. Most drag racers with awd cars do this. However, I have seen a 8-sec R32 GTR that was kept awd. It's pretty badass.
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>>53812419
wait a minute is that that man's signature?
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>>53811952
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>>53812634
No you fucking faggoy, Gideon and Ajani.
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>>53812639
Yes, yes it is. The signature of an 11 yearold posting about how old Spongebob is I'm a single line. I thought it was apt.
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>>53812646
How do you find Ajani and Gids as being good characters and then lump Jace in with them?

That's way out of the left field on that one.
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>>53812634

I built, modded and overclock the shit out of my PC...and I (custom ordered), modded and tuned my car...and built, modded and tunes my AR15.

Modifying and tuning to perfection is a joy when you actually enjoy it. I don't card that I have to modify it, stock cars are for phags.

Let me guess, you call turbos "horsepower adders" and hate it when a turbo beats you because "N/A is best, fuck you turbo-electric!"
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>>53812646
>Gideon
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>>53812692

Sorry, autocorrect really fucked me on that post...
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For a Mayael deck, hom many 5 power+ creatures (with ETB or repeatable effects) should I have compared to small utility creatures (mana dorks,/mana fixing, Elvish Piper effects, etc)?

Because I'm sure once I get going my opponents aren't just going to let Mayael continue to exist if I am activating her every turn.
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>>53812692
1) Cool. I love seeing people with built cars.

2) Stock, modded. Don't really care as long as the person loves their car and takes care of it. It is their car after all. And not all cars are meant to be modded.

3) You do realize that my Cobra comes boosted from factory, right? Also, I own a Mazdaspeed 6. Which is an awd turbo I4. So, no I don't care what someone has done to their car if it beats me. If it does, cool as shit. I'd like to know what they've done to it and see what routes they took in the build.

4) Try not to assume dumb stereotypes about people. You do realize that we are on an anime-based imageboard, right? You shouldn't assume that people are anti-imports.
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>>53812730
Depends on your meta. How many creatures were you planning on running?
>>53812758
I think it's pretty cool that you drive for a living and that cars are a central hobby for you. I hope that one day my passions and income will align.
>>
Tonight I got to play my buddy's Zur deck and I got a taste of what oppression really feels like. I just crushed everyone's hopes over and over. Had an answer for everything.

I'm not sure I liked it.
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>>53812758

You're taking things way too seriously, guy, mk? I forgot it was supercharged but you're also being very spicy here, cool it, simmer down, pipe it.
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>>53812772
I wish you luck, br/o/. If you ever want to get into being a CDL driver, look at your local businesses. A lot of them will train you to get your CDL. It's an easy job and pays well. But, which ever route you take, I hope you the best.
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>>53812785
I'm actually very mellow. I'm just saying to not be so judgemental is all.
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>>53812772

Meta is all over the place, but I'm planning on having it tuned "low" to play against newer people/people with weaker decks. I'm not putting any "Go Infinite, I win, gg" combos in there, but I'd also like it to play competently.

I was thinking probably, 34-35 creatures? 25 or so big ones and 10 utility.
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>>53812781
What was his zur build? I'm currently building a zur deck and on the lookout for inspiration.
>>53812804
Ayy thanks for the tip!
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>>53812833
All you need for a Zur is...
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>>53812833
>>53812846
...And...
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>>53812833
>>53812846
>>53812860
...And.
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>>53812811

Ok. Then please don't spread factually incorrect statements then backtrack to semantics to face, a calm face, but saved none the less.

1244awhp
https://youtu.be/PB3VlKzVAPw
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>>53812832
That sounds fine, maybe even a bit creature heavy overall.
Infinite can be antifun, but I prefer getting beaten by an infinite than to watch someone spend a turn durdling for 45 minutes putting together a possible win.
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>>53806303
I run 33 lands in a mono blue control deck

I'm daring read: bad at deck building enough to try and cast kozilek and gin, and have 5+ mana responses.

Don't be like me, kids
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>>53812883
Again, do you understand what a stock bottom end is? Because neither of those cars have a stock bottom end. Shit, son.
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>>53812846
>>53812860
>>53812867
All you need in Zur is
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>>53812914
That helps too.
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>>53812889

I have another Naya deck, Samut as the commander, once I find a suitable alter that will be based around infinite combat. This decks just for lower power level games, like I said.
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>>53812903

I don't care if a Subaru has a Corvette engine. I don't care if this or that is modded, replaced or tuned.

Go fast goes faster? Ok, go fast.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/brz06-a-subaru-with-v8-corvette-engine-swap-has-500-hp-video-93450.html
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>>53812914
The first one reads:
This was a waste of time if you want to use your fetch land.
The rest of them, especially necro are pretty solid. I wish I had the old art necro, though the new one is pretty metal.
>>53812940
Yea man I wasn't advocating for infinites in your casual friendly deck by any means. I guess try and get as much utility on 5+ power creatures as possible, the other creatures presumably are just ramping for when/if your commander isn't accessible.
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2bh, I'm not sure why you guys keep replying to the tripfag.
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>>53812952
Cool. Never seen a Subie with a V8 swap. But, I've seen built EJ that would have stomped the shit out of my car. I believe it was pushing over 650 awhp.
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>>53812966
>step 1: put vanishing on Zur so he can phase out whenever
>step 2: greater auramancy
>step 3: Rest in Peace
>step 4: Energy Field
only thing that hurts you now is loss of life
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>>53812986

FINE! I made a (mostly) premodern 5 color gold legendary deck. All nephilim are in it but can be replaced with all eoder dragons.

Anyone have suggestions for badass premodern gold cards? Legends I've looked over a lot but spells are too many to count, so help would be appreciated!
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Doing 32 Decks challenge. I've got all the 2-guilds done.4 and 5-colors as well. Waiting to do the 3's.

Currently I'm working on my mono-coloreds. I've got Blue Wizards, White Angels, and Black Demons.

Unsure of what to make my red deck, I thought Gobbo's but I kind of wanted to save that tribal for Wort. And I can't decide in Green if I want to go Elves or Omnath Elementals, I kind of dig the sort of primal forces of reality with Angels, Demons, and Wizards so maybe elementals? I dunno.

What think /edh/?
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I'm a combo player. My group got really pissy at infinite comboes and so they "banned" them in the sense that they asked me not to do infi comboes anymore.

Then I won with Niv-Mizzet + curiosity, Mono Blue Lab Maniac + Enter the Infinite/Leveler. And Avacyn + Worldslayer. And they still got mad.

Then I realized they were just mad I won too thoroughly. They rescinded the "infi comboes ban" when they realized it doesn't do jack shit, and gimps them.

Their fault for playing aggro I guess?
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>>53813230
Fresh Pasta?
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Yeah, everyone ask questions and skip answering them. Pfft...I'm outta here, modern general is better anyways!

> Thanks Cpt Gravenigger, this is your fault!
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>>53813150
Neat. Ever think of using Cromat as a Commander?
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>>53813150
Also, perfect domain card.
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>>53813150
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>>53813369

Thank you. Could have sworn I looked up 5 color cards before but don't remember this one.
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>>53803337
>He's in that weird flux where he's a good card that gets you ganged up in MP, but not quite good enough to make the final cut in 1v1.

What, no, it's literally the opposite. JTMS is bad in multiplayer BECAUSE he can easily be just ganged up on and gotten rid of. He's great in 1v1 for the same reason he's good in Legacy: fateseal is a horrible mechanic that should never be easy to do multiple times, especially for 3.
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I just impulse bought Plunder The Graves as my first commander deck, was that a bad idea?
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>>53813047
Ohhhh I'm dumb. Thank you for explaining this spicy af combo :D
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>>53813186

Red could be dragons with viashino? I thought red pretty much had goblins for tribe as dwarves was left unfinished back in the day
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>>53813460

I buy precon CMD decks to play against other precon decks, that way I can play people that aren't as good.

Haven't purchased all but on of 2016s I'd say buy those ones if you don't own many cards, many CMD staples.
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>>53813460
Yes, Meren is super boring.
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>>53813515
>many CMD staples.
Oh really that's cool, what cards are they?
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>>53813515

*Have purchased all but one

> man...autocorrect is really cramping my style today

>>53813186
Oh shit, KOBOLDS!
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>>53813536

Uh...I can't tell if you're serious or facetious...so I'll just go ahead and say I'm wrong you're right.
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>>53813646
Why would I be being facetious lol. V paranoid lad
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>>53813646
I always want to use Astral Cornucopia, but I always end up taking it out for Gilded Lotus.
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>>53813704
Memetraxa is the first commander I've witnessed get reliable value out of it
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>>53813690

K, almost all 2016 decks have very good lists. If you find "Breed Lethality" at Walmart, BUY IT !
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>>53813990
>tfw Atraxa will never step on me

I do need to get one of the 2016 precons for some basic shit. Went to my nearby store today but the only one they had was stalwart unity and I kinda want Breed Lethality or Entropic Uprising
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Anyone know if Cephalid is a viable tribe for blue, even if it's paired with another like wizards for backup?
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>>53814278
There are only like 15 or 16 Celaphids so you'd have to stretch a little bit
Both of his abilities are extremely strong so you can probably make it work with some fine tuning
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Holy shit what's up with this thread cancerous namefaggotry?
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>>53814397

Cephalid and Homarid it is, I guess.

> Invertebrates Gooo!
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>>53814529
Trolls trolling trolls. Just throw on your filter and he will die from lack of attention. We should probably mention that everyone turn their filter on in the next OP, since the only good tripfag is GA since he only trips so everyone knows he is a judge.
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>>53814529
I just wanted help with my Meren deck, and I'm too lazy to turn off my name.

Graveborn just got back on the board after years and still has the old /tg/ attitudes, meaning he does what he wants and doesn't give a fuck, which is refreshing.
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>>53814561
You're never going to get help for Meren here, she has over 2k deck built, literally everyone has already seen Meren builds hundreds of times and she's boring af. Just go on EDHrec and cease your fucking faggotry
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>>53814581
Alright, to EDHRec then.

However, to call what I do faggotry is calling a lake a bathtub. I'm a cancerous, namefagging swine who's got just enough clever quips to feel vindicated for my actions, too much of an ego to feel remorse no matter how much I get called out on it, and worse, I'll agree with you and stay petulantly aloof.

No worries. I like EDH. I'll turn of the name from now on while I'm in here.

Wayne out for the night.
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...heh...w-would ya look at that, a blue dwarf. Pretty neat, right guys?

(Cowers)
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How do I play doomsday without killing myself
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>>53814765
You tutor for your combo pieces then Ad Nauseam for them, play them and win
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>>53814644
if only dread Pirate boypussy could be like You.
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>>53802279
If that card was Booster Tutor, I would say yes. Booster Tutors seems like the perfect cube card, though. Too bad I don't have a cube.
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>>53812703
The man of many faces
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What are the best RUG creatures and spells to copy with Riku?
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>>53813047
Still needs a Dovescape and Humility. You still lose to a wrath
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>>53815242
Right here sempai desu http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=+[carpet]||type=+[carpet]||subtype=+[carpet]||text=+[carpet]
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>>53815256
That's an artifact though
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>>53815268
>Missing the joke
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>>53812159
>released in the same year as their name
Actually that's not even the case either c19 drops in 2018
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>>53814644
>Come to a board
>Namefag
>Hurr Durr it's not bad be because you guys do stuff I don't like either
You have no idea what a culture is do you?
Part of that culture is not frivolously using tripcodes and names
Nobody gives a niggerfuck about following your posts
You are nobody with little to nothing to share
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>>53815284
I askedd for a RUG, not a CARPET you uncultured swine
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i need good commander for human tribal deck, any suggestions?
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>>53815731
Saskia seems to be good for human tribal as there seems to be a lot of combat-oriented humans out there.
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>>53815731
Do you like hexproof?
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>>53815760

Does he like hexproof, he ask if he likes hexproof? It's....Hexproof!
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I'm having a hard time with Riku, does anyone have a good list that I can cop a look at?

I'd like to run a creature toolbox of sorts, and I'd also like some good recursion that's not just genesis.
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>>53816135
Well you can go creatures or spells so just run Eternal Witness and/or Regrowth.
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>>53816135
Try to make it Kingdom hearts themed
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>>53815242
Palinchron. Literally go infinite with Riku, Palinchron, 7 lands, and 2 extra mana.
>Play Palinchron
>copy with Riku
>copy untaps 7, 7 floating
>'chron untaps 7, 14 floating
>bounce 'chron, 10 floating
>play 'chron, 3 floating
>copy with Riku, 1 floating
And then you untap for 14 more, and do it all again. Costs 7+2+4 to do, nets you 7+7 for 1 net mana and a 'chron copy. If you have an ETB trigger you get that an infinite number of times.
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>>53816135
Praetor's Counsel is good for big plays in Riku.
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>>53815255
Counterspell, friendo. They are your friends in a Zur deck.

>>53814882
Don't make me change my name. This isn't even my final form. :3

>>53815242
Anything with ETB effects.

>>53815731
Rafiq, Odric, or Feldon.
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>>53815731
>>53815749
Also, Saskia is good too.
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>>53816788
Hi there!
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Is there a card that gives both doublestrike and unblockable?
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>>53816917
Weathered wayfarer.
Can search up sunhome and rogues passage.
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were these posted already?
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>>53817007
Glad to see them reprinting duals instead of compulsively making new ones. Glad to see wotc get cucked by leakers. Is this Ixalan or Conspiracy 3 though?
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>>53816917
You can't exactly get unblockable, but Temur Battlerage gives trample and double strike.
Also new Odric and Concerted Effort give double strike and evasion if you have a creature with that ability.
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>>53817007
>One-shot Urza's Glasses + Pithing Needle
Verrry nice.
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>>53817033
Ixalan, pirates + the three letter code is XLN.
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>>53817001
>>53817051
thanks guys, running a yidris deck so white is out of the question unfortunately. Currently running bloodmist, the shriek thing artifact, and some unblockable things (distortion strike). Any suggestions?

>>53817007
>Jace, *, Castaway
lol
The legend pirate is awful
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>>53817033
Ixalan

given all the pirates, and the very top left is a jace card
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>>53817007
>just got a foil Sunpetal Grove to pimp out Selvala
F U C K
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>>53817007
interdasting
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>>53817069
Seize the Day would be really fun in Yidris. Sadly you don't get cascade off of the flashback, but it can lead to some crazy plays.
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>>53817069
>3 mana
>makes Lotus Petals
I'm already deckbuilding.
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>>53817007
We'll Arcane Adaptation seems like a more playable version of Conspiracy. The pirate legend seems a bit weak, but I kinda like that he can be mono-red ramp
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>>53817069
>The legend pirate is awful
Is it? I'm thinking about running it in grixis marchesa, pseudo dork seems good. (Could be wrong though, this costing 3 instead of 2 might kill it).

Other than that it creating artifact tokens is good. Daretti decks probably will like it at the very least.
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>>53817007
Smol walker!
>so smol
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>>53817069
>The legend pirate is awful
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>>53817146
>Seize the Day
I run Aggravated assault+savage ventmaw in the deck. its great
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>>53816843
You must be new to 4chan. Let me direct you to Rule #2: I Don't Give A Fuck. And please don't forget Rule #3: See Rule #2.

>>53817007
Whelp, Arcane Adaptation just made Lin Sivvi a thing. Get your copies while you can.
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>>53817785
>2U
>in a mono white deck
???
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>>53817809
Not knowing what the 99 are?
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>>53817785
Hi there!
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>>53817809
It turns her into an Any Tribal Tutor with UW in the colors.

So, yeah. She'll be a big thing now in the 99.
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>>53817830
See Rule #2 and Rule #3.
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>>53817821
>>53817841
Oh you're right. A tutor that you have to wait a turn, pay mana for even after it's hit the field, and likely won't even be in your hand is great. Oh! I've got it! Just run creature tutors so you can find her so you can tutor out the creatures that you could have just tutored with the creature tutor that you used to find her!
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>>53817841
>>53817855
Hi there!
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Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!!
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>>53817873
You... you don't understand EDH, do you?

That will most definitely make her go up in price and very sought after once the set releases. You act like Vampiric Tutor isn't a $25 card. Even though it's not played heavily in Legacy or Vintage. same for all of the good tutors.

She becomes a multiple Tutor for what ever creature you are running in the 99. Want Avacyn? Well, shit you got her. Want Iona? Well, shit you got her. Want Kaervek? Well, shit you got him. Want Sigarda? Well, shit you got her. Want Ulamog, Kozilek, or Emrakul? Well, shit you got them. Oh? Want them one right after the other? Well, no problemo. Just add in intruder alarm, grand architect and pili-pala and you're good to go.

Infinite Tutor for what ever critter you want.
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>>53818027

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8
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>>53818027
Hi there!
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>>53818069
>>53818085
>>53817876
You can keep doing this all you want. You're just wasting time of your life.
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>>53818153
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8
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>>53818199
https://youtu.be/sj9vM3OlLJI
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>>53818027
I've never seen a land so magical or Christmassy. Lin has an activation cost. You've just paid 9 mana to tutor Iona. You're running Captain Sisay's shitty little sister, a card which has no shortage, and thinking it's going to be the next hot thing.
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>>53818294
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8
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>>53818153
why do you even have a tripcode other than to spite and deter the thread?
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I know I have an extra Sol Ring and Lightning Greaves somewhere because I took them out of a deck
But I can't find them anywhere

REEEEEE
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>>53818429
just buy a precon bro :^)
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>>53818405
Why do you retards even have to reply? Just filter him already and stop giving tripfags attention.
Sometimes you people are just as worse as the tripfags themselves.
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>>53818502
>defending attention whoring on an anonymous imageboard
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>>53818678
>enabling attention whoring by giving what the attwhore wants to begin with
You're pretty stupid.
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>>53818304
Sisay can only tutor Legendaries into your hand. Lin can tutor them into play, son. I think you're missing that tid-bit.
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>>53818774
Yeah, I'm apparently missing the fact that Lin gets fucked over by Containment Priest and Sisay doesn't.
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>>53818314
See Rule #2 and Rule #3.

>>53818405
Because I can. And again, I've already explained why. Read up in the thread and you'll have your answer.

>>53818429
It's okay, Serena.

>>53818502
>>53818678
>>53818773
You both are adorable twinks. Now quit your basic bitching.
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>>53818819
Yeah, because Counterspell isn't a thing.

Saying something gets stopped by another card doesn't make it less good.

Why not just unban Griselbrand since he can be countered or pathed/sworded?

Yeah. That's a great argument. Like literally everything doesn't have a answer.
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>>53818774
OK but you have to sing Rebel Rebel the whole time
>>
Also, give me a bit. I'm going to go workout and then get a bite to eat.

I'll respond to shit afterwords.
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>>53818883
Roger Roger.
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>>53818821
>>53818891

>better follow what I have to say
>anonymous image board

unless you actually creating vital content that contributes something, you are attention whoring and diverting the thread. no one cares what you are doing with your life, go blog somewhere else.
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>>53818979
>here's 5 more posts by some faggot
You're really dumb. Good thing this thread is dead already.
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>>53818856
Except your retarded ass "combo" that requires two cards and enough mana to cast the creature to start with, and also, oh, it's great if you just have three other cards to give you infinite mana is weak to all of those things and also Containment Priest. The fact that Lin puts the card onto the battlefield is a weakness, not a strength.

So
Sisay
>Tutors any Legendary into hand.
>Can be run as a Commander.
>No activation cost.
Lin
>Tutors a Rebel into play.
>Needs a second card to work well.
>Activation cost.
>Can't be run as a commander.
>Added weaknesses of cheating cards out.

Lin has all the problems Sisay has, and then some.
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>>53818996
your the dumb one, the only reason im even responding is because the bump limit is reached now and the thread is almost dead anyway. im going to ignore him in the next thread, i didnt think i had to explain myself.
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NEW THREAD

>>53819424
>>53819424
>>53819424

NEW THREAD
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>>53819466


Foils are SHIT and they should feel like SHIT !
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