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Cutemarchs edition

In the last thread a bunch of people had insufferable autism about a plastic army men game >>53763628

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>>53790606
>plastic
How dare you.
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>>53790661
Plastic is the only sensible choice. I for one welcome our new Primaris Marine overlords.
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>>53790606
Also REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE that pic is mixing up Isis and Faith, AND whitewashed the hell out of Venus REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>53790702
Friendly reminder that Salamanders have always been overwhelmingly portrayed with Caucasian features, mutations aside.
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>>53790606
>Omegus

lol
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>>53790836
Omegus and Alpharion, primarchs of the Beta Legion
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>>53790885
But Magnus is already the Primarch of the beta legion.
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>>53790606
A Curzefag made thread? This is too strange for me.
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>>53790885
Alphabet and Omegle: Gene-sires of the Abba Legion
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>>53790909
Lorgar was more of a beta than Maggie.
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Horus was Alpha, everyone else was Beta as fuck.
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>>53791105
> weak threads that barely linger to life
> namefags making the general
> same sad pathetic discussions
Truly /hhg/ is screwed. I blame the cowardly decision to stay as some 7.5 abortion instead of embracing 8th
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>>53791212
Alpharius telling Horus to basically go fuck himself after Paramar was pretty alpha.
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>>53791304
>b-b-but v-victory!
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>>53791245
I think we can work it out.
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>>53790742
Ethiopians are kinda like that.
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>>53791330
super buttmad about how that was written. Even if it wasn't Alpharius actually dying you think he would've said something cryptic or nothing at all.

Some disbelieving muttering doesn't fit at all with the character.
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>>53791304
That was Omegon.

On the subject of the Unbreakable Chain, what should I use to transport my Lernaean terminators, a Dreadclaw or a good old fashioned land raider?
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>>53791105
I've been busy, and with the increased shitposting and less constructive anons these past few days, I haven't been overly concerned with contributing to the thread since it accomplishes nothing.
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>>53791415
He mumbled something to Dorn that we couldn't here. Probably something like, "If you let Horus win, we'll attain true victory against Chaos! I know you haven't heard of Chaos yet, but let me expl-- argh!!! B-b-but... victory!"
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>>53791415
>Even if it wasn't Alpharius actually dying
Are Alphafags still in denial? It was confirmed to be him.
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>>53791455
Okay, real topic - lascannon javelins vs. missile launcher javelins. When are the former worth it?

TL Lascannon version: 65 points. 1 shot w/ reroll to hit, S9, can cause explode results.

TL Missile launcher version: 55 points. 2 shots w/ rerolls to hit, S8, no explodes.
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>>53791636

They literally did everything possible to show it was him:
>Decapitated
>Body stayed with Dorn
>Warpsplosion
>Omegon's internal monologue confirms he's alone now.
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>>53791756
I know. It's almost too obviously Alpharius.
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>>53791756
>>53791820
You could say it's so obvious it's clearly a clever ruse.
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Well I got to go to bed early for the road job. Good night.
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>>53791636
>>53791756
how is what I said denial? I don't like that they killed him off (especially in such a punk ass way) but I'm not saying it wasn't him. Besides Omegon is more or less Alpharius anyway so it's not like anything changed.
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>>53791856
I'm fine with them killing Alpharius off even if I didn't like how they did it. BL needs to remove both of the Primarchs for the Alpha Legion's actions to make sense in 40k. It's why I think Rob legitimately got Omegon on Eskrador.
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>>53791946

I still wonder if Omegon is secret loyalist. I hope more comes of that. Too boring to have them just be straight traitors or working towards what the cabal wants.
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>>53790037
>>53789963
It's like you guys forget Russ' first name was Leman. That could totally work, for a middle name maybe.
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>>53792047
I go back and forth with it. I like them both going for different things (or even going completely alone/forming their own society) but I'm pretty sure they don't wholly work for anybody. I haven't read every Cabal related story but I'm pretty sure Alpharius ended that arrangement before he died.
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>>53792047
If Omegon was secretly a loyalist then he's an incompetent moron. His legion is still attacking the Imperium 10,000 years later.

>>53792075
Anything can be a middle name.
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Fuck it,We're Warhammer High General /WhHG/
now.
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>>53792246

> If Omegon was secretly a loyalist then he's an incompetent moron. His legion is still attacking the Imperium 10,000 years later.

Maybe that's just part of the Alpha schism.

The Alpharius faction is still attacking the Imperium. While the Omegon faction is doing something to help the Imperium either behind the scenes or in the unknown parts of the galaxy.
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>>53792263
I almost started a webcomic about teenage girl versions of the primarchs, partially inspired by WHH.

Almost.

Then I remembered I can't fucking draw.

Still like the ideas and stuff I had though. Suffering.
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>>53792298
I'm still waiting for lewdhammer high.
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>>53790606
>No tiny cut scars one remillia
Shit image
>She'll never get better
I made myself sad
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>>53792326
>filename
Kek
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>>53792229
He walked their representative out an airlock, "ended that arrangement" is putting it lightly
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>>53792432
>>53792229
My main reason for not buying the whole "Alpharius was a cabal agent" thing 100% is that it relies on taking something Alpharius said at 100% face value.
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>>53792494
In Deliverence Lost Alpharius's own internal monologue reveals he's committed to the Cabal plan. Although later in the book he does vent the Cabal representative.
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>>53792523

Wasn't it also hinted in there that Omegon was responsible for why AL didn't suddenly create a billion marines and overrun everyone with emps' genetech?
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>>53792556
Omegon had the Raptor DNA and he didn't do anything with it.
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>>53792656

> tfw someone assumes that the Alpha Legion definitely did or did not do something.
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>>53792523
See "committed to the Cabal's plan" is not necessarily the same as "loyal servant of the cabal". By going along with it (at least for a time) the Alpharius twins gain two things that they and the rest of the Legion value very highly, information and flexibility. I doubt that Alpharius would stick his head in the sand when some sketchy aliens came along and told him there was more to the galaxy than he'd been told, but its even more unlikely that he'd simply ACCEPT what he'd been told at face value. Going on missions given to him by the cabal lets him know what their after firsthand, letting him keep in finger in the metaphorical pie in a way he would have never been able too if he'd chosen to refuse the Cabal openly. The Cabal almost certainly knows better than to trust him outright, but even just telling him the bare minimum of what he'd need to do for them might have already given him enough to put things together that they never wanted him to. If Alpharius wanted to re-defect from the Cabal and turn on them, where could he ask for a better position to damage them then as their most notable military asset?

Not saying it was The Plan All Along of course, but its hard to see Alpharius not knowingly choosing the way that would leave him with the most options in the long term.

>>53792556
Omegon strikes me as the more secretive of the Alpharius twins, you can hardly expect him to show his hand so soon and so blatantly as pumping out a bazillion space marines right off the bat. Personally I like the idea that the most overt thing he did with it was set up some spooky ass experimental laboratories in quiet little corners of the galaxy and seeing how much he could do with it before deciding how best to put his looted primarch project goodies to use.
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>>53790836
I had never seen this pic at this resolution. Where is this from?
>>53791245
Thus you need more namefags :^)
jk
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>>53792554
I like that book, but man that passage shows how autistic Perturbo is.
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>>53792075
I know that's his first name, but I'm not calling my son "Lemon", not matter how green he may be.
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>>53792798
3.5 Codex I think. Possibly Imperial Armor.

>>53792933
That's not autism, anon, that's bitterness and jealousy.
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>>53792798
>>53793036
It's originally from the Index Astartes: Iron Warriors, from Third Edition, before the glory days of 3.5 hit.

Also, regards more namefags: ^.^
jk, I'll go back to anonposting soon enough

>>53792933

One could argue that part of the character of the primarchs, what makes them interesting, is their flaws - in the case of more than a few, their (possible) autism. I ain't saying they're cute or any such shit cause of it (don't wanna trigger Curzefag) but it is part of their character. My main love of that excerpt is the reference to the artwork, tho.
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>>53792965
>lemon
>green
Anon, I...
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>>53792281
This would actually fit with the Legion's fluff too. Each unit of Alpha Legion marines was said to be capable of operating on its own without any commands. If there was any schism at all, each cell would continue its work in secret without alerting the others.
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>>53792785
>he could do with it before deciding how best to put his looted primarch project goodies to use
He held the capacity to bolster the Alpha Legion's power to absurd levels. Imagine if they churned out Raptors like the Raven Guard but on a massive scale. They could have had anything they wanted but no, instead they both chose to do nothing with it and get chopped up like jobbers.
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>>53792798
got it from one of the WD scans in the mega. Just kind of go through them at random and screenshot any artwork I like.
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>>53793159
It's a long story :^)
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>>53793281
you know, back when 40k had good artwork done by artists and not Blizzard runoff.
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Everyone agrees the Perturabo Primarch novella was pretty damn good yeah?

Makes me look forward to reading Dark Imperium and w/e Guy does next.
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>>53793455

> looking forward to Dark Imperium
I... wouldn't. It's pretty crap. Trust us on this, anon.
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>>53793547
From what I've heard it sounds pretty good if you accept that it's partially just a commercial for Primaris marines. Cawl being a """borderline""" heretek who Guilliman is considering offing seems like a fun twist.
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>>53793547

DAMMIT

>>53793603
The commercial bit I totally get and Haley even admits as much in the BL blog they posted today.
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>>53791415
>super buttmad about how that was written
We all are, anon. Alpharius within, Omegon without.
>>53791419
I always thought that was Inigo Pech. Especially because the actual attack was masterminded by Dynat
>>53793036
>>53793154
>>53793281
Thanks. Have a meme pic I never got around to post
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>>53793688

I loved Praetorian of Dorn.

Dorn finally gets to show why Emps trusted him with the defense of Terra.
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>>53793719
Turns out it was because of the fleet, rather than because of actual fort-building skills?
Btw hello there, Mr. French, you irredeemable fistfag.
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>>53793719
Praetorian of Dorn consists Terra and the Fists getting completely BTFO until Alpharius suddenly decides to willfully toss it all away in the last act. It's really not an impressive showing from the 7th.
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A while ago I saw a facebook link on hhg. Hammer of Olympia page, Pert's sister calling Pert an autistic asshole scene. Anybody has a link?
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>>53793839
>>53793740

Wrong. Dorn was capable of deducing what was going on and out-rusing the Ruse Legion. He knew how Alpharius would act, including trying to show off and ostentatiously prove himself better than Dorn.
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>>53793154
>My main love of that excerpt is the reference to the artwork, tho.
Oh, me too. I recognized the picture it was talking about immediately when I read that, and smiled.

>>53793036
>bitterness and jealousy
The thing is, if that piece of artwork were really named as such, then it's certainly not about glorifying the Fists, even though they have a flag in the background. But rather focusing on the sacrifice of the Iron Warriors.
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>>53793198
>tfw had a Black Crusade character who was this
>they were a Renegade who were pissed off that the Legion had 'forgotten their way', and instead ran around acting like regular Chaos shits
>his long-term goals were to bring all Chaos Marines in line with 'proper' Alpha Legion methods
Pity that game never really got going.
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>>53793916
Nothing I said was wrong. The Alphas completely skullfuck Terra before Alpharius decides to face Dorn on equal footing in single combat. The XX have never been about that. Alpharius could have wired the doorway he KNEW Dorn would be coming through with non-lethal explosives or some sort of disabling device and still get the chance to gloat and make his point. They just decided to turn him into an idiot. Alpharius has never been one to accept a fair fight.
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>>53793938
>it's certainly not about glorifying the Fists, even though they have a flag in the background. But rather focusing on the sacrifice of the Iron Warriors.
It rather feels as an in-universe: "is it too much to ask for artwork of loyal IWs kicking ass?"
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>>53793688
this thread belongs to the Alpha Legion.
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Rolled 19 (1d20)

>>53794040
Curzefag never rolled the dice, so let's see.
2 and 11 are Mortals and Mechanicum, respectively.
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>>53794071
Well there we have it. We, the Raven Guard, will take care of the thread now :^)
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>>53794093
>I have to be stealthy
>better paint my armour black and bring my giant shield
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>>53794040
>implying all threads don't belong to the Alpha Legion
even the non-40K ones
I guess we know which side you're on, Brother.
But seriously, which side are you on? This shit gets confusing sometimes.
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>>53794115
You know what, you're right. It's something that just won't happen. I recommend you train for anything but infiltrating Breachers, since they are a squad that can't do that. Don't train against that, it'll be lost time.
Kek, silly mortal
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>>53791415
That book convinced me there is no hope for BL. Making twins, the cabal, then have alpharius just dying for no real reason.Trying to make dorn, who has been shit on so many times in other BL books look good.So yes it was alpaharius for sure 100% yes. No mystery allowed. Leaving omegon who is a total faggot who shouldnt exist.

Alpha legion are irrevocably JUST'D at this point
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best primarch and legion coming through
>fuck you loyalists
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>>53795025
more like faggiest primarch lmao
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>>53795025
After Fulgrim and Angel Exterminatus I probably dislike Fulgrim the most out all the Primarchs. He's just a selfish teamkilling fucktard with literally zero redeeming qualities.
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>>53795063
you mean prettiest
>>53795085
yeah but that's why I love him the story of the legion's fall is near poetry I love it and fulgrims insanity is also great
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>>53795121
>tfw you the "duelist" primarch, but you can't duel a phantom titan

Make way for the CHAD
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>>53795168
sang is just a bitch with wings hmph
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>>53795168
>the "duelist" primarch
That would be Jaghatai "BL authors accidentally made him great at everything" Khan.
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>>53795121
I still can't believe how much Fulgrim reminds me of Griffith, they both fucked over their bros out of daemons and stuff, except i'm not quite as sure that Ferrus had a girlfriend or a desire for revenge after that, they both also became demon assholes who lead fucked up armies.
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>>53795304
>Ferrus had a girlfriend or a desire for revenge after tht
Ferrus' girlfriend was mankind because he was that based.
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>>53795303
Didn't he fight a Keeper of Secrets? How did that go?
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>>53795347
Did Fulgrim slowly rape humanity before he and that demon chopped Ferrus's head off.
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MkII bikers when? I want to make some White Scars but I'll drink bleach before I convert that many riders.
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>>53795304
kek I also love griffith I have a thing for pretty angelic like people falling from grace. also they are just so COOL
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>>53795121
Traitors can't be in the running for best primarch because the best people don't have to purge their men in hideous betrayals or let demons make them kill their best friends. He did have the best sense of aesthetics however.
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>>53795388
we are PERFECT
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>>53795356
Jaghatai "
>the most fierce like Angron, Russ, and the Khan
>the most dangerous with a blade like Fulgrim and the Khan
>the most tactically cunning like the Lion and the Khan
>the most human like Roboute, Corax, and the Khan
" Khan cut it to pieces.
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>>53795419
Wasn't a lot of that his own marines jacking him off? It would make sense for them to see him like that. I know he had a close fight with Mortarion with him coming out the victor, but I doubt he could take on the likes of Angron and Sanguinius.
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>>53795438
>Wasn't a lot of that his own marines jacking him off?
Not really. At the start of the series Jaghatai was a blank slate with no fluff so different authors kept offhandedly including him when they were listing Primarchs who were especially skilled at things. Thus they inadvertently made him the ubermensch.
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>>53795417
You WERE almost perfect.
Pride is a hell of a drug. Coincidentally so are the other drugs you ruined your bodies with.
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>>53795500
can't hear you over the NOISE
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>>53792263
I get to share my collection then.
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>>53795620
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>>53795630
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>>53795638
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>>53795646
I am entirely okay with the direction of this thread
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>>53795653
It's not like anyone is offering anything for discussion anyway.
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>>53795601
Wait, why is he melting?
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>>53795681
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>>53795693
>not cranking your speaker volume so loud that it melts your armor
Get a load of this pleb.
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>>53795697
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>>53793455
>Makes me look forward to reading Dark Imperium
I know we just had an argument about reusing character names, but I think everyone can agree that reusing book titles (for the third time) is a step too far.
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>>53795814
Did nothing wrong.
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>>53793719
Because he would fuck it up so badly that Astartes would still be banned from Terra 10k years later?
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>>53793938
Imagine it as a full size painting. Suddenly it's a painting of Imperial Fists with skulls on their shoulders.

I don't doubt that the remembrancer had his heart in the right place, but he went for too much historical and not enough license.
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>>53795693
Maxing the wubs.
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>>53795924
>Dark Millennium and Dark Imperium counts as reusing titles
Wut.
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What is it with Forge World and always writing terrible Superheavy Flyer rules? Thunderbolt, Xiphon, Lightning, Storm Eagle family, Arvus all good and useful, but as soon as they become Superheavies you start getting stuff like the 500pt Marauder Destroyer or Thunderhawk Transporter with four normal heavy weapons and nothing else, really. Normal 'Hawk is more than a Warhound and a third as good, Tau ones were good but Manta has way too little gun and the Stormbird isn't actually terrible but still a bit lackluster.

I just want to air superiority the shit out of people and show that Marines don't have a complete stranglehold on mobility.
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>>53790606
>>53789963
>Khan
Descendant of the Mughals which ruled India but didn't unite it unlike their British successors
>Corbin
Over my dead body I'll have nothing to do with that anti Semitic communist
I see nothing wrong with roberto
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>>53796138
There's a meme that Corax is a socialist so it fits.
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>>53796065
Re-using names guy proves once again that he's a barely functioning retard.
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So I really like Knight Errant and was thinking of making a few, one or two for my Sisters of Silence.

Is giving him a Narthecium, MC Powerfist, and Paragon Bolter with Protector cheesy?
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>>53796274
Knights Errant are shit. Nothing you do with them is cheesy.
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>>53796298
I've seen some super abusive shit the Librarians can do with Custodes; don't underestimate them.
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>>53796310
Now I am curious.
What sort of 'super-abusive shit' was it ?
Care to elaborate ?
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>>53795025
>draw a girl
>call it a boy

Why is this allowed?
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>>53796539
Because it's 2017.
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This is the last fucking time we let that obnoxious tripfag bake the bread
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>>53796568
>tripfag
Nobody is stopping you from making the threads, newfag.
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How is Iacton Qruze "the Last Cthonian" if everything we've been given about Cthonia in the fluff is that it was a decaying, post-industrial shithole run by street gangs, and he's pretty much the opposite of all that?
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>>53796642
Also
>veteran of Unification
>born on Cthonia
How is that even possible?
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Got a Deredeo and a basic LR as a test from based chinaman. Aside from some light warping, flash, and two rough spots I can clean up, they look pretty damn solid. And he sent a MkIV HW squad (no guns) as a freebie. Might pick up some Devestator bits to give them something to do, or use them for parts.
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>>53796274
Nailed the two I want to do.

Knight Errant from the Blood Angels. One more focused on the purity of the soul and body; an Apothecary who defected from a Blood Angels host unit that sided with Horus. Took a round to the face upon escape and now never removes his helmet for he views himself as a monstrous looking man. Is unusually quiet and when focused on his work at hand is known to be hellaciously meticulous. He carries a powerfist ripped from his dead Captain as a reminder of what not to become in the face of evil. Born on Baal. Has an MC powerfist, narthecium, and Paragon Bolter

Knight Errant from the Emperors Children. Loyalist ambassador of the Legion, imprisoned on Terra when the Legion declared itself for Horus. He proved his loyalty time and time again by serving as an executioner of traitors brought before the Emperor; now acts as a head-hunter duelist and is considered quick to anger because of his loathing for his Primarch betraying the Emperor's Vision. Has short cropped hair to dissociate from said Primarch. Born on Terra. Has an MC Power Sword, Melta Bombs, and Paragon Bolter

Thoughts?
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>>53796690
IIRC one of the FW books mentions that there was travel between Cthonia and Terra, but they should've just had him as a Terran (as cool as they thought the whole "Last Cthonian" thing might have sounded)
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>>53796690
You know cthonia did help out the emperor during the unification wars which is why they found Horus so quickly
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>>53796732
>Blood Angels host unit that sided with Horus

wut
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>>53796642
*The Last "true" Cthonian

He's the only one left who wasn't corrupted by Horus so he's the Last Cthonian in a metaphorical sense...

...also Cthonia is literally destroyed after the HH according to the 3rd Ed. Space Marine Codex.
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>>53796739
>Not knowing loyalists sided with the warmaster.

C'mon m8
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>>53796746
Yeah I got that, just sounds weird when you remember that Cthonia is basically Detroit: The Planet
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>>53796746
Well, every Traitor homeworld that wasn't already ded af (Nostromo, Nuceria, Prospero) was exterminatus'd after the Heresy as a precaution. I'd think Cthonia would've been the first, considering how close it is to Terra
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>>53796732
I thought the Terran EC died of space cancer long before the betrayal?
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>>53796943
Did they? I have no idea about that one.
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>>53796943
Source? While I won't claim to be a fluff wizard, I don't remember reading anything like that. I know the EC suffered post-Unification/pre-Fulgrim due to the total loss of their geneseed reserves, but beyond that they were fine to my understanding
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>>53796974
>>53797018
This is what I'm talking about, I can't for the life of me remember the source but their geneseed was corrupted and finding Fulgrim allowed them to work around the problem by generating more, fresh geneseed. They never managed to solve the problem with the old stuff though, so the handful of surviving Terran EC eventually died out with the exception of Fabius Bile, who I think managed to clone or scavenge new organs to replace his with when they started to shut down.
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>>53797032
Yeah this does sound familiar....but how would the EC who helped Malcador have gotten around this? Maybe they just eventually croaked, dunno.

This is interesting though. I'll think on it.
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>>53797039
If you want that tragic hero angle played up, you could say he's scavenging what uncorrupted organs he can (probably without the sanction or knowledge of his superiors), or that his organs are failing and he's dying and wants to go out swinging like a true Son of Terra should.
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>>53797052
Honestly I like this idea a lot and have already started considering it. While being allowed to use transplants, each and every one is already beginning to fail and become cancerous no matter how much he continues to change them out.
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I miss you, audiobooks sharing anon
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>>53797060
Ironically mirroring the present state of HHG. They say life imitates art...
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>>53797073
40kg had had a minor Renaissance with 8e, the tide of shitposting lessened a bit now they actually have new and at least somewhat balanced game to chew on. Still a shithole, but less of one.

This place was so comfy when I found it last November. Inferno didn't really sustain it very well, what good content is left?
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You guys think the bloat-drone is also based on a mechanicum design, same as with the vulturax and the blight-drone?
A slim low-altitude rotor drone might be cool...
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>>53797483
I wouldn't be surprised. I would have tried to deChaos a few to make some counts-as Ironstriders for my Mechanicus by repairing the armour, trimming the Nurgle bits a little and switching the chem-flamers for autocannon spares from the spare Dragoon sprues, but the rotors are so fucked it would be a massive pain to make them look good again even if I didn't need all the Lascannon spares I have and more for the Filiketos anyway. Bloat-drones are cheap, though, so I may try with one just to see.
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best magos type and wargear options to go with a grav imploder? he's already modeled with it
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>>53797507
I have the kit, my starter arrived yesterday, and I will say that there is no way to de-chaosify that bastard without a shit-ton of work. You might as well sculpt the entire fucking thing out of greenstuff. The fleshy bits and the overall decay is so prevalent that it's next to impossible without replacing some sections wholesale.
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>>53797483
Chinarax Rotor-drone
WS2 BS3 S5 S5 W4 I2 A1 Ld3 Sv4+
Unit Type: Jet-pack Infantry
>Special Rules:
Battle-Automata, FnP(6+)
>Wargear:
TL rad-cleansers
>Options:
- Replace the TL rad-cleansers with...
...TL rotor cannons
...TL graviton guns
- May take an infra-visor
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I'm a 40k Chaos player and I intend to have an army of each of the 4 marked legions. I allready have a substential amount of WEs and ECs and working on my Death Guard now.

TSs are next and I wanted to do something different with these guys. I have a big hard on the new Osiron dread and the pre heresy TS tacticals in general and I thought I could do a 30k TS army and play them as CSMs in 40k;

Two questions tho : are TSs actually decent in 30k ? I don't know anything of the balance in this game. Also, would Scarab Ocult terminators work as stand in Sekhmet terminators ? Sekhmet can take tartaros armors but FW is only selling them as Cataphractii and I prefer the Tartaros.
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>>53798013
TS are currently the straight-up strongest legion or at worst on par with the other top legions. Psychic shenanigans out the ass with some of the best legion-specific troops and characters on top of highly-flexible legion rules.
Scarab occults as Sekhmet are fine, everybody does it and not using Sekhmet cataphractii earns you browny points.
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>>53798013
>are TSs actually decent in 30k ? I don't know anything of the balance in this game.
Yeah, TS are very good, psychic shenanigans and their cult bonuses allow for some very good units. It takes little effort to build a good TS list.

>Also, would Scarab Ocult terminators work as stand in Sekhmet terminators ? Sekhmet can take tartaros armors but FW is only selling them as Cataphractii and I prefer the Tartaros.
Again yeah, many people do this already.
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>>53798064
>It takes little effort to build a good TS list.

Do you have examples ? Looking at it from a 40k 7e perspective, everything seems a bit overcosted. Also, I don't plan on getting Magnus.
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>>53798103
Pick literally anything that is or can be a psyker. Abuse biomancy or divination as needed.
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>>53797537
Archmagos Reductor, 2+/3++, abeyant and paragon blade or powerfist. Put him in a unit of Myrmidon Destructors with grav inside a triaros or macrocarid. Let him melt primarch deathstars and then charge into whatever is left.
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>>53798189

That good heh ? I might try something involving terminators, an Osiron and whatever model I like for a good backseat gunline
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>>53798252
terminators, vets and sekhmet are all good ways of getting offensive units that can do interesting stuff in the psychic phase.

A corvidae heavy weapons team are basically WS5

An Osiron with a kheres and psychic shriek can span shooting

All good stuff
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reminder that lorgar did nothing wrong and guillicuck should be gassed for destroying monarchia
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>>53798506
Seconded. You must also notice that Erebus did LITERALLY nothing wrong
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>>53798506
>>53798526
But Lorgar is a Emprexiteer.
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Should there be a gap between the torso and shoulder pads in my cataphracti
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>>53798592
depends on how big the gap is and if it is resin or plastic cataphractii. Better just to take a picture for us.
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I must admit, being an IW warrior player and painter, I didn't think one could pull an IW moritat, since they feel a bit too tacticool for the Bitter Boys, but the slavs did it again.
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I won a set of Mark III Marines in a giveaway. What should I use them for fellow anons?
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>>53798794
Leakycheese give away? You lucky bastard... build some breachers!
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>>53798794
Buttplugs
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>>53798794
Kitbash and convert apothecaries, techmarines and Consuls for days
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>>53798618
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>>53798993
Get your NMM trash out of my sight.
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>>53798602
Post forgeworld art of cataphracti and Tartarus termies
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>>53797263
>what good content is left?
blood angels, dark angels, white scars, maybe dorn actually getting a model

I don't think anyone expected inferno to breathe fresh life into hhg after the years of yiff/dindu shitposting
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Y'know, the more I look at these guys the more I think they might actually work as Blackshields...
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With three days left, I followed my visions from the Warp and invade the Palace.
I broke the barrier, I fought Russ, I lost and was thrown into the Warp.
I survived, but I was captured by the Gods.
How happy I would have been if they'd let me die then and there...
Our wishes do not come true. We just cling on to our dreams, our phantoms. Mine, and yours.

You can kill Mortarion, murder Logar, slaughter Horus... Burn the whole galaxy down, and it still won't bring me back.
Me, or any of the dead.

You know, the Imperium was never the heaven we wanted it to be, but I was still happy lived with everyone there.
It was such a short time, such a hypocritical peace. But while I was on the Imperium, I was happy.


I'll always be your angel of death.
So, I know exactly how to finish.
Say, Death!

> Magnus did everything wrong
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>>53797032
>>53797060
See, I know their geneseed was lost, but not 'failing'. They could still harvest the geneseeds of their own fallen and work with those, but the problem was that the original vault on Terra and the back up supply destined for Luna were both completely lost. Given the rates of attrition from warfare, the EC were losing more men than they were recovering. Chapters have recovered from near-total losses in 40k before, but that's usually after many decades or even centuries of inactivity and rebuilding, which the EC weren't afforded, fighting during the opening days of the Great Crusade.

While only Chemos is outright stated in HH1, their previous source was the aristocratic houses of Europa (which spread to other houses across Terra later on), and it is known that they did continue recruiting from 'elite' bloodlines after the discovery of Fulgrim. I also don't recall seeing anything about them 'not' recruiting from Terra after the re-discovery of Fulgrim. I don't know if we'll ever know for sure, since FW gave the EC most of their pre-Heresy fluff in the first red book and haven't really touched on them since then. However, I'd say it's still entirely plausible for you to have a Terran EC functioning by the time of the Heresy.
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>>53797032
I think that might be an early edition fluff. Now it only says the geneseed, instead of the actual warriors, was lost. A combination of a storage blight and/or the cargo ship being destroyed en route to Luna. And since they no longer had geneseed stores and the only other way to make new marines is from dead ones, they were only 300 (auuuh!) ECs at the reunion with Fulgrim.
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>>53797844
>Chinarax
Jej
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>>53799761
They look more T5 than W2. As for the armour's aesthetics, it's aesthetics: they all fucking do the same, and in fact Pariah armour does even less.
And for anyone who says MkX is unacceptable, recast-tier helmets like this were unacceptable a day before Inferno but were suddenly cannon a day after it. It's make-pretend tiny soldier game, as long as it looks cool it goes.
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>>53797596
Well, fleshy bits are fine, Genetors like those, but that was the impression I was getting. Would probably be easier just to buy some rotors and use more Kataphron plate and greenstuff to make a hovering gunbot.
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>>53799204
I meant here in /hhg/, but yeah, you're right. I'll throw DarkMech onto the pile too, as long as they don't make all Traitor Mech have a completely different set of options to Loyalists, and I can't see that happening. I actually kinda want to see what the last Primarch rules are so I can calculate how much bang will be needed to convert them into holy craters.
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>>53798250
Why Reducctor? Grav imploders don't roll for armour penetration mmmm.
>>53797537
The only one that directly buffs Graviton Imploders would be a Myrmidax, inflicting Precision shots on s 5+, plus being able to shoot yet another weapon and being Relentless by default. Or you can bring someone else.
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>>53796065
>>53795924
Sorry, kinda drunk and used the wrong pic.
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>>53801216
Is that a Night Lord?
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>>53801216
Man his skulls are so happy!
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>>53801216
>Local Night Lord is having a great day!
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Ok /hhg/, FW Praetor Cataphractii conversion to Ultramarine Chapter Master, Hammer or Chainsword?
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>>53801290
Obviously an Ultramarine, you can tell by the blue and the U under his right foot.
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>>53802142
for better visualisation
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>>53802212
>>53802142
How is this even a question? Chainswords on terminators look just plain wrong. And chainsword paragon blades are pleb-tier paragon blades.
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>>53802381
Agreed. Lightning claw paragon blades are truly the way forward.
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So do you think after they have done The Siege of Terra will they do The Scouring or will we get some motherfucking Techno-Barbarians?
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Do lightning strike fighters use legion colours?
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>>53802697
I think they will do some post HH stuff and Pre-GC BEFORE the Siege of Terra. Just like BL.
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>>53795934
Well except not getting fucked by Freya.
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>>53802757
I've always pictures them as naval fighters supporting legion forces rather than being a part of the legion itself.
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>>53794141
I just got the XX Hydra/Alpha-Omega sigil tattooed. Ave, Alpharius.
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Waffle Custode anon, you there?

I was wondering how you get your greenstuff bases to be so smooth and flat to the plastic. I got myself the Factory Floor rolling pin from Greenstuff World for my Genetor bases because fuck texture paint, and my first attempt at making bases with it (Cyber-occularis) has them standing on a slab of metal almost as THICC as some people's cork rocks. Also just a little indistinct, but that will improve with practice, I expect.
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>>53802903
Bost bics
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>>53800203
M8 nobody thinks Chads don't look cool. However, Chads mixed with or next to oldmarines doesn't look cool for a lot of people. It's part of the 'did you make an effort to look HH' argument. Snapfit Primaris painted plain black are low-tier as fuck. But hey, someone has a hardon for doing it, whatevs.
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>>53802999
Fuck dammit.
What would be a good way to make them fit in the setting alongside their smol brothers?
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>>53802922
Pic Related is the first four, plus the V1 sneakbot.

No idea whether those are too tall to be acceptable on regular minis like Myrmidons and such, actually. Never done proper bases like this before rather than just using texture paint.
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>>53803059
I'd have absolutely no problem with that. Double-basing is a thing, lots of scenic bases are basically double-bases, and being taller has negatives as well as positives in terms of rules.
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>>53802381
>>53802477
What about chain claw paragon blades?
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>>53803040
Field them without small marines. I'm sure chads will make Chymeriae Blackshields once properly heresyfied, but don't make exceptions. No terminators and such until there is chadnataors.
All or nothing, basically.
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>>53803141
Tyberos please go
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>>53803141
Nothing beats the Twin Thunder Chainclawxe
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>>53803134
Yey. Base.

That seems fine then. Time to make some more sneekboops.
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>>53802990
still glossy and my inner bicep meat is tender as fuck but it's all for the XX
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>>53802697
I wish FW did some minor Xenos models or stuff like Techno-Barbarians just as a one off sort of thing
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>>53803886
You know people not in the hobby are gonna go all "Hail Hydra" on you right?
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>>53803886
Good for you, anon. At least that's a cool symbol. I've been thinking about either DG or IW but they're just some skulls, and the DG is a sad one to top it off. Nor do I like tatoos either way.
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>>53803886
>Not being a true Alpha Legionnaire and getting a tattoo of another legions symbol with a tiny hydra hidden in it

Alpharius is dissapoint son
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>>53803989
I'd honestly be surprised if they even recognized it's a hydra and not snakes.

>>53804012
I would go with a DG one. At least people wouldn't think you've got a Punisher logo or something. Would be cheap/quick too.
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>>53802381
>>53802477
it's not meant to be a paragon blade, it's just a chainsword or hammer. You may have noticed the Tigrus pattern bolter instead of the Volkite Charger. I don't really care about the statting.

Power Weapons are simply so prevalent and omnipresent in 30k, I think a chainsword might freshen things up a little.
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>>53803886
isn't it supposed to be on your face or hip?
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>>53804070
>I'd honestly be surprised if they even recognized it's a hydra and not snakes.
What if the hydra really is just a bunch of snakes?
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>>53804202
>arming a praetor with a chainsword
U wot m8.
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>>53804274
it's not a praetor, it's a praetor model being turned into a Chapter Master.

Garviel used a chainsword
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>>53804296
>arming a chapter master with a chainsword
U wot m8.
In the rules it's a paragon blade.
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>>53804202
>A
Give him a chainfist. Terminator armour, before being requested by the fans for 40k was used on settings where bulkheads might be a thing
>B
Give the source of that full pic. Here's a termie with a chainsword
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>>53804257
The hydra is a bunch of snakes with a brontosaur body, everybody knows that
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>>53804296
Chainsword paragon blade shloud be two-handed in size (by rules) and made of exotic material (=lots of bling). Your chainsword is plain and small.
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>>53804296
>Wanting your men to be like that filthy traitor to the warmaster
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>>53804399
t. Topknotfag
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>>53804399
>being this much of a xenosfag
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>>53804399
>Being a heretic
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>>53804050
I have failed my gene-sire :c
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>>53804534
>>53804509
>>53804420
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>>53804333
>Give him a chainfist.
I originally meant to give him a regular power fisst, but his arm and shoulder are difficult to graft onto a powerfist, so I decided to stick with a regular melee weapon (I temporarily meant to give him a regular+twin linked bolter in each hand, but scrapped the idea soon)
On top of that, a Hammer can smash in bulkheads

>>53804369
>paragon blade
it's not supposed to be a paragon blade
>>53804399
you can't betray someone who doesn't know loyalty to begin with

checkmate treasoners
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>>53804606
Don't you have some face to get sliced off?
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what did he really do wrong?
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>>53804943
wrecked the Emp's BIG PLANS for the Human Webway. He dang ol' goofd
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>>53804943
I never noticed how they never show his legs
>Amon! Bring me my witching pants!
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>>53804943
Aside from getting played like a goddamn fiddle by Tzeentch and continuing to disobey a direct order by the Emperor to stop using warp powers, he pulled a Kool-aid man and blew a hole in the walls of the Emperor's Webway project (which as we've covered before was irreparable) to tell the Emperor something that could've waited the 3-5 business weeks it'd take to send the message by courier.
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>>53804943
>Magnus, my son, whatever you do, don't do [THING], under any circumstances.
>does [THING]
>woooooooooow, how was I supposed to know I shouldn't do [THING], it doesn't tell me anywhere I'm not supposed to do [THING]
>How was I, Magnus the Red, wisest and most smartest of all the Primarchs supposed to know a massive psychic barrier was meant to keep anything out? I didn't do anything wrong. Fuck the Emperor

Magnus and his thousand Kangz are the biggest retards in 30k, par none.
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>>53805002
>>53805027
>>53805029
>>53805042
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>>53790606
>Forgot the thread theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ0o3N52_BI
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>>53804943
He ignored the brotherly advice of Leman to stop being a fucking faggot wizard twink.
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>>53805214
I hate it
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>>53805248
advice=/=insults
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>>53790606
Has anyone ever modelled a power fist but the fingers are chainblades
Also white dwarf appeared in the mail so scans tomorrow evening
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>>53805787
I think the teeth would bee too delicate to model easily. Maybe on a daemonprince or dreadnought or something.
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>>53805787
that reminds me of a centurion drillfist.

might work on Dreadnoughts or Tagmatha walkers, Marine sized powerfists are too small for chainbladed fingers
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>>53791385
I don't see how ethiopians are relavant when we are speaking about dudes that divergently evolved on volcano planet for many centuries and became vantablack.
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>>53805787
Unfortunately, chainblade teeth are already power-fist finger sized, so unless you plan on creating your own chainblade for ants you're out of luck. Or, alternatively, scale up and give a Dreadnought an actual chainfist
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>>53805825
>>53805839
>>53805971
So just get a normal power fisti, cut some chainswords in half, glue them on, put blob of green stuff and guitar wire on to meld it together.
Is that kino?
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>>53806031
That'd be like putting dreadnought fingers on a terminator fist. Yes, it'd work mechanically, but it'd look like shit.
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>>53806031
If you were not held back by real mini limitations, how would you like it to be?
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>>53803886
My eternal nigga. I was thinking about getting an AL Hydra on my torso.
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>>53805787
There's that FW model of the space sharks chapter master that has a pretty sweet chainfist. Kinda like >>53806031 describes but it also has lightning claws. I think the LC are a bit much.
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>>53806416
do it, bruh. I didn't anticipate it being so large but I guess the tiny ass scales would've made it too muddy. At least you've got options with their sigil.
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>>53804943
A few things. But he is better of with Tzeentch. Emperor was a dick anyway
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>>53808109
>But he is better of with Tzeentch
Kek Tzeentch isn't even making him do anything. He's not giving him orders, just putting typos on his books and trying to mutate marines for the lulz, while giggling "Just as planned" into oblivion.
Emps forbid witchery, but at least he got to bring people to compliance.
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>>53800203
>And for anyone who says MkX is unacceptable
So you'd be completely fine with an army of Night Lords in mk7? Because it's exactly the same thing.
>we just raided a prototype shipment lmao
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>>53809354
>B-but the helmet is MkIV-ish
What if their armour was scavenged as fuck? I remember pre-HH fluff saying that was the state of many marines in the Heresy especially traitors since they lacked supply worlds and manufactoria...despite the Fabricator General declaring for Horus. You know that pic.
The collar would be the biggest offender.
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Imagine if FW asked fans for direction. What would you like 7.5E to include?
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>>53809685
No more AP3 blast weapons.

And if we're being generous, point rebalancing across the board
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>>53809822
So, keeping the same "power swords chop through armour like it's nothing but are as effective as chainswords against artificer armour" AP system?
I do agree with the reduction of Phosphex/Rad blasts' AP. I think the Karacnos' rad shells did it right: Fleshbane is good enough.
I would like the rebalance of points a lot.
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>>53809633
There's also the fact that it's plain-looking and mono-pose, as well as factually outtatime.
It's a tricksy one. I think the Primaris just look too big to be good, even if you claim they're some Blackshield gene experiments. And I imagine the guy in the club who brings his 30 primed Primaris starter set marines against a guy with fully painted 3/4 resin will get some shit, coz we're all assholes.
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>>53809685
Gutted psychic phase.
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>>53809922
Baring Thousand Sons, are psykers even a problem in 30k?
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>>53805248
>twink.
Magnus is many things but a twink is none of them.
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>>53806834
>revivifying the third body
This is why the Magos Literatos continue to insist that horror and sci-fi media be a required part of the basic Mechanicus curriculum. You're going to ruin everything and kill everyone.
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>>53809987
>Barring one of, if not the top tier, legion built around that entire game mechanic, is this mechanic an issue for anyone?

Ignore that greentext, I was just being a dick.

People actively avoid fielding psykers because the psychic rules are a hassle. People don't want to play psykers, in a game with *this* background. When people don't like playing an entire phase of the game, there's a problem.
Not to mention, the psychic rules+phase are actually a shitshow, and are rightly being completely redone in 8th.
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>>53808444
Not like Tzeentch is preventing Magnus from getting his compliance on. He didn't ground Magnus and send him to his room or anything.
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>>53809685
i'd like to see 8th's AP system introduced.
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>>53810067
I mean thats a fair point but most legion lists don't include any psykers at all simply because Librarians are in general a sub-par consul choice. Like I said baring one admittedly op legion they dont seem very prevalent. I wont argue about the rules for it being shitty though
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>>53809685
Iron Father Bannus finally gets rules and a model so Iron Hand players at long last get an HQ dreadnought character model after years of getting their gimmick stolen by the Salamanders, Emperor's Children, Red Scorpions, and Howling Griffons. He is (according to the novel Iron Hand) a souped up boxnaught with an assault cannon, chainfist, and probably a banner to round it all out.

Chaplain dreads get an update after three editions of sidelining and are moved to the HQ slot with the Zealot bubble they deserved from day one.

Siege Mantlets retain their reroll of failed armor saves when the redo the Siege Assault Vanguard list.

Dino Riding space marines are one of the few retrohammer models they haven't redone and quite frankly I think they'd make for an amazing and/or hilarious Fast Attack option.

The Saber (casemate predator or rhino with a hull gun depending on who you ask) and the Rhino Advancer (20-model transport originally portrayed as opened topped but possibly shown as something of a double-razorback in a later model) are both longtime demi-canonical rhino variants that tickle my logistics bone in just the right way that I could see myself spending money on an official resin conversion kit if it meant that they were finally brought back into the limelight.

Taking those Badab War scenario specific suicide rhinos filled with biological weapons and making them into a general unit option I can see being fun.

Imperial Guard and AdMech/Skitarri finally getting their own rhinos. For the IG I'd be fine if it were limited to command/veteran squads and maybe had the option of swapping the storm bolter for a heavy stubber or maybe a multi-laser, but you can not and will not convince me that the cogboys don't have pintle mounted TL-rad carbines/galvanic rifles at they very least somewhere in their bag of crazy sci-fi junk.
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>>53809875
Beggars can't be choosers. If I could get two things out of 7.5, it'd be those. The 7th Ed AP system isn't perfect, but I can at least tolerate that. A reduction in Marine-mulching blast weapons and updated point costs would at least make 7.5 more enjoyable til 8th, since it'd at least allow infantry back on the table and possibly give neglected/overcosted units an opportunity with tweaked point costs.

Now of course, if we could also have the new AP system too, it'd be good times. I just think that there are bigger issues with 7th's balance that, if resolved, could at least allow 7.5 to be enjoyed while they transfer the whole system to 8th.
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>>53809685
A fast-attack focused RoW that doesn't make it almost unplayably bad or niche. I love my fast attack options, but so many things are crammed in there that my slots are almost always completely taken.
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>>53810367
>While
I hope not.
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>>53809633
>B-but the helmet is MkIV-ish
Yeah, mk10 helmet grills look vaguely like mk4 but that doesn't change the fact that it's mk10.

>>53809902
Where does this primaris as blackshields meme come from? Why would they have mk10? It makes no sense. I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS.
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>>53810843
I don't know about the others, but I'm just humouring the guy who wants to build them, as I'm not mean enough to tell him his idea fucking sucks and anyone that actually fields Primaris in a game of Horus Heresy is an embarrassment not only to their family and friends but now also their hobby associates as well and that he should fucking kill himself for even entertaining one of the worst ideas posted itg. Live and let live, y'know? S'what I always say.
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>>53810843
One anon was trying to find options for his snowflake Blackshields, and as soon as Primaris hit he latched onto them. A few other anons in the thread enjoyed the idea too, or at least humored it. It's probably the same guy that was trying to make an all Thunder Warrior force. I'll give him a B for spirit, but if he's looking to use Primaris to use as BIG BLACKSHIELDS, they're definitely going to need some work.

That said, you're in luck Blackshield Anon: standard marine heads and shoulderpads fit Primaris marines just fine, so if you're that determined to convert your way to snowflakey glory, you can start there.
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>>53790606
Was art ever made of their brothers or were they not an actual thing to everyone?
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Played a game with my Custodes against traitor Blackshields today; super weird.

>My shooting wrecks most of his shit by Turn 3
>I charge a few of his units
>We somehow keep combats going until the game ends
>What the fuck
>Nothing is dying after Turn 4
>Tribune challenges his leader and no one even takes a wound
>Wat
>All his vehicles are gone so my vehicles just mull around with nothing to do
>Last turn sees me kill 15 Astartes in a single Combat phase since every unit is tied up now
>A single Custode has taken a wound all game
>His leader takes a wound finally
>Game ends
>WAT
>Game is technically a tie since no one is even on any the objectives

I rolled so horribly to wound unless he had Invuls and even then he would just pass them. He rolled well but I never failed saves.

What. The. Fuck.
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I played a small-ish game with Sons of Horus and allied warp cults against some Thousand Sons. Fuck Sekhmet Terminators. I won pretty handily, but only because I threw Horus and 50 zealot, rending, FNP cultists at them to keep them from just sweeping across the board.
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>>53811485
I played a small-ish game with Thousand Sons against some Sons of Horus and allied warp cults. Fuck Horus and 50 zealot, rending, FNP cultists. I lost pretty handily despite that I threw Sekhmet Terminators at them to keep them from just sweeping across the board.
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>>53811575
Playing against Thousand Sons forces me to play gimmick lists and I hate it.
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>>53811683
I was gonna say "But I play Custodes" and just stopped midtyping.
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>>53811683
Just trying to point out that playing against you was probably worse. So when he the gimmicks it up against you just remember its your fault.
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>>53811732
Perhaps but my list only came about because I've gotten tired so quickly of trying to fight against 10+ Sekhmet.
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>>53811770
Well I'm glad that you out cheesed this guy then. I'm sure the lesson he will learn is to tone down his list for normal games. Oh wait no hes going to cheese even harder.

When he buys Magnus you only have yourself to blame.
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>>53806834
>I didn't anticipate it being so large
Yeah I know right?? I just got my first ink, and it was way bigger than I expected. Still love it, definitely want more tats now. Hydra Dominatus now and forever.
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>>53811830
He's already put Magnus on the table. So I out-cheesed that by bringing a Warhound.
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Why is Mastodon shit again folks? Too expensive?
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>>53812201
>Too expensive?
That seems to be the consensus.
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>>53795374
>>53795025

please dont tell me ur the guy that just got bullied from the last thread, if so ur giving EC players a bad name. its time to stop
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>>53812201
Yup, it costs too many points for what it brings to the table. I love the thing, I really do, but I can't justify it at the moment. The idea is nice, but for about the same price in points you could bring two Spartans that'll carry 10 more guys total and likely deal more damage on their own as well, while increasing their overall survivability by being two targets instead of one (two Spartans will also cost you 2/3 of what the Mastodon does as well, saving you money). By comparison, you're paying 700 points for a super-heavy transport, so you're inevitably carrying something within, which further increases the amount of points being dedicated into this single piece. Its primary weapon is overkill against small targets, and kinda underwhelming against anything with Armored Ceramite, though it's alright if you're going to be playing a lot of matches with fortifications. The sponsons exist to keep it from being completely under-gunned, and while the AA gun is nice it shouldn't be your list's primary source of AA.

If you're looking for a centerpiece, a super-heavy battle tank will do the job in appearances and in kills for considerably fewer points. If you want a powerful transport that's not a Spartan you can get a Thunderhawk and toss some goodies on it to ruin someone's day. But until the Mastodon gets cheaper, there's not much reason to bring it.
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>>53812380
I think it's our resident traitor EC. Haven't seen him post any of his own stuff, he just waltzes in, taunts loyalist players, posts some Slanneshi stuff and disappears again.

I mean, as far as /hhg/ shitposters go, that's pretty damn tame.
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Custode player here with the 90 Custodes.

I'm seriously tempted to buy the Sokar Stormbird soon; think all gold with the red accents is what I want to go with for colors, but does anyone have any other color suggestions?
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Custode player here with the 90 Custodes.

I'm seriously tempted to kill myself soon; thinking about dropping the toaster in the bath. Anyone have any other suggestions?
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>>53813056
Could you be any more of an insufferable and jealous faggot?
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>>53813086
Could you be any more of a ludicrous embarrassment?
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>>53813181
Can you be any more of a raging manchild for shit talking people asking questions?

No? I thought not. Get the fuck outta here or add something to the actual thread, you obnoxious shitheel
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This is what scares me from the game. I like the setting, I love the memes, but the fans seem obnoxious on a game that plays like dawn of war but slower.
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>>53813255
This shit never happens in person; it only happens here because passive aggressive man children try to put down others who want to have fun. Those kinds of people are never welcome in actual playing group unless they all happen to be that stupid.
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>>53813331
>this shit never happens in person
What magical LGS do you go to? Traditional gaming locations are well documented as being full of autists and sperglords that can't interact with people in a reasonable manner. The kind of shit on /tg/ is only slightly exaggerated, if only because they knoe they can get away wjth saying whatever they want.
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>>53813056
I have 5 Custodes up on Ebay for $35, best make it 95 before dropping the toaster.
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>>53813255
Anon, you will meet great people in this hobby, I am still in a friend's phone as "Jack Warhammer" years after that became a tertiary point in our friendship.

You will also meet absolute losers, and you will ignore them forever.

>>53813331
>This shit never happens in person
Nice no trophies, faggot.
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>>53813522
Wat.

I experience neckbeards and shit all the time, but you just stop dealing with them after a while. /tg/ basically shows you the worst of them and how the losers in real life just acts like cockbags here.
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>>53813478
I'll take you up on it and one more set once FW releases some Adrasite Spears I can slap on them.
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>>53808444
I dont even get why anyone would like to stay loyal. With the Emperor, it just endless repression. With Chaos you can pursue all of your dreams and desires freely
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>>53813735
>freely
>as long as you're furthering the goals of the greater power above you, at the risk of becoming spawn, soul-food, or just another bloody smear on the wall for ticking them off, or anyone else worth a name for that matter
>few to no allies that wouldn't stab you in the back for a daemonette handjob
>greatest form of 'reward' for most is allowing a daemon to inhabit your body in your place
Being free sounds amazing
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>>53813735
>With Chaos you can pursue all of your dreams and desires freely
if you consider a puppet dancing on it's strings "freely"
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>>53813828
Atleast when dancing on chaos strings you can have some fun. You can practice all the sorcery youve ever wanted, you can sniff space coke..
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Hey /hhg/, what are you working on tonight?
Im working on painting up the big grey bastard on the right
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>>53813879
Listen, Captain Abbadas, shut your shit no true warrior of the Emperor wants to hear it.

t. Sergeant Magron
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>>53813255
Dealing with spergs IRL is legitimately the worst part of this hobby. Is it too much to ask for my community to have some normal people?
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>>53814112
Yes it is. I've been playing for 12 years and this shit never ends. It's a haven for for manchildren, social outcasts, and mentally-disabled alongside people who just want to have fun.
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>>53811485
Oh man fuck (cheese unit/tactics) i only beat it by using (cheese unit/tactics).
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>>53812949
Gold and black, gold and purple. Can custodes take Stormbirds? I thought they were marine only.
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>>53790606
>>NEW Mega Folder
>https://mega.nz/#F!gaBiVTKI!HTOuNx5zzNxHqT-ny-AU3A

>Still doesn't have the correct redbooks.

Never change /hhg/
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>>53814414
In the lore they have Stormbirds; I'm simply going to ally it in as a Lord of War
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>>53814112
If you're playing randos that's your problem. If you've been playing 40k for a while now and can't make normal friends, you might be the problem.
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>>53814414
Everyone can take our unique Stormbirds now apparently, the Mechanicum were generous with the plans given how much that Mech player spams his whale project that he'll never start everywhere.

On actual rules terms, isn't the Lord of War slot a separate detatchment? So if you really wanted a Custodes Stormbird you could just call the LoW Iron Hands or something, although then it wouldn't carry Custodes models.
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>>53814531
Agents of the Emperor act as Battle Brothers to other Imperial Armies; they can use their transports.
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>>53814537
>Battle Brothers
>Use each others transports

Please don't pretend you know the rules.
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>>53814537
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>>53814552
Does that account for superheavies? They don't obey the standard vehicular laws.

>>53814544
Not the same anon but you must be fun at parties. Sarcasm isn't the answer to everything, sir cuck.
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>>53814564
People still use 'cuck' as a slur?
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>>53805248
>twink
Magnus was if anything pudgy like the actual cyclops
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>>53814575
It's almost like the alt right are reactionary man children just like the feminazis
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>>53814564
Super Heavy Transports can transport any number of units, doesn't say anything about allies. The rule in the HH book would trump anything in the BRB anyway. So no, SH transports still can't carry allies.
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>>53814576
Have you seen his model? Magnus is a lanklet.
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>>53814591
He may be tall, but twink is a normal to tall skinny feminine looking man (and preferably gay), lanky means tall but skinny which he is NOT
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>>53814531
>given how much that Mech player spams his whale project that he'll never start everywhere.
god that guy is annoying. I bet he isn't even a good modeller, it seems like people are imagining something like pic as the end result but it will probably end up looking like a whale statue with a bunch of bits haphazardly stuck on it.
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>>53814589
Different anon here; but there has to be a way for Stormbirds to legally transports other pieces of equipment or units; it wouldn't make sense otherwise
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>>53814631
You have the rules just like everyone else. Wishful thinking isn't really helpful in this situation.
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>>53814631
>it wouldn't make sense otherwise
hahahahahahahahahahahaha, welcome to warhammer rules
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>>53814631
other than a gentleman's agreement there is no way.
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>>53814625
Look at his arms and thighs. As far as Primarchs go he's a twig. Definitely not chubby which is what your original post was claiming.
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>>53813255
From my own experience, thats a minority. Majority of people in my community are okay.
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>>53814660
I like him like that. He is the "mind over matter" kind of guy, wouldnt expect him to be super muscular
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>>53814646
You are literally the reason people don't play. Stop being a little cuck.
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>>53814672
Running the rules as they are written isn't being a cuck. Cuckish behaviour is intentionally making your list weaker and the like. Stop misusing the term.
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>>53814672
>throwing around right wing buzzwords because you can't handle banter
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>>53814687
>Implying banter is being a rude little shit.

Are you 15.

>>53814684
>Purposely getting annoyed by a buzzword.
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>>53814708
>Implying banter is being a rude little shit.
He wasn't being rude to you, he was making fun of the game we all play. Stop being autistic.
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>>53814708
>crying about the rules and getting worked up when told no
Sounds like you are the 15 year old
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>>53814717
>Not getting the joke

Woosh

>>53814721
Not even the same anon, but good try.
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>>53814728
So you were just pretending to be retarded? Nice """joke""".
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>>53814737
Not even, you just literally did not get the joke.
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>>53814740
explain the joke then because i'm not seeing it.
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>>53814744
It stops being worthwhile or funny if you explain it.

And to be fair, I'm getting way more amusement out of being in limbo on it
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Please let this general die already.
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>>53814749
>implying it was worthwhile or funny to begin with
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>>53814763
>implying it's alive
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>>53814771
>>53814772
>imply mind
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I'm sure this has been done a fuckton of times before...
But anyways, what is your favourite primarch model?

And JUST model, not your favourite because fluff, rules, or wathever, just the model.

Mine's Angron.
But need to say, Guilliman is pretty close too.
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>>53814832
I think Horus looks great.
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>>53814832
I really like all of them. Except Fulgrim, they fucked up his face. But my favurites are Magnus and Raw-booty
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>>53814867
He really does, the painting on that one is impressive

Who's the artist?

Also, I've elways found... weird how few artwork and generally speaking stuff there is about the Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus if they were supposed to be the most successful of the Legions
I mean, I would expect Ultramarines-in-40k levels of protagonism.
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>>53814771
>>53814772
>>53814778
>current year
>implying things
ISHYGDDT
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>>53814922
Adam Halon apparently. Here's another angle.

Well, they did get the whole opening trilogy and Vengeful Spirit. Horus just isn't a super interesting character in my opinion. His fall and motives for betrayal were really unconvincing to me.
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>>53814989
Superbro Horus got diddled by the Chaos and drank their kool aid when they showed him what his worst fears were. Horus was dead from then out from who he was; think highschool jock to heroin addict with a plan

Chaos is pic related chick, Horus is the dude
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>>53809685
- AP values being modifiers.
- 8th ed. to-wound table
- Outflank, Deepstrike and shit being rolled for from T1.
- Vehicles and MCs being unified. Retain facings if you must.
- Severly reduced psychic bullshit.
- Charging from all vehicles, not just Assault ones.
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>>53809685
The good stuff out of 8th. No templates, new psychic phase. That's kinda it, really. 30k doesn't really need a movement stat since the units are uniform enough that unit types cover movement well enough. We also don't have the same problem as 40k where everyone and their dog ignores morale, so that doesn't need to change (although it's weird to me that their idea of a good fix isn't "let's make things stop ignoring this good system" and instead was "let's make a whole new system that isn't actually better"). In general I'd like a reduction in AP3 shooting and trimming of special rules; challenges can fuck right off, they're useless. Also since the issue with vehicles over MC is that they can be one-shot, just remove that problem by removing the vehicle damage table. Glances don't do anything, penetrations take a hull point, that's it. Keep armor facings.
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>>53815056
Oh, and Instant Death from double S over T can fuck right off.
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>>53815038
I know, I'm just not buying the whole thing. It took one nightmare and Horus went from Emperor's golden boy to lighting the Imperium on fire. There was no transition or descent or anything, just a binary switch.

He wasn't even possessed. It's made explicit he's doing the bidding of Chaos with his own free will.
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>>53814989
>Adam Halon
Definetelly him, yeah

Thanks for the sauce!
https://www.instagram.com/adam_loler_halon/
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>>53815121
That's one of the few rules that makes perfect sense. Why junk that?
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>>53815129
Yeah on second thought if its said to be completely free will then that a bready shit reason to burn down the galactic bugaloo. What would be your take on a more interesting story behind his fall?
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>>53815151
I'd emphasize his contempt for mortal administrators and fear that the Astartes would be removed after they served their purpose just like the Thunder Warriors. Have Chaos get in his head and really stress his concerns over an extended period of time. Maybe Horus takes his doubts to the Emperor and they have a falling out so he goes rogue and establishes his own mini empire at the edge of the Imperium. The situation escalates until the Emperor decides to put an end to it and then Isstvan V happens like normal. Things proceed as usual from there.

I don't know. That's just off the top of my head.
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>>53815141
Because it makes challenges incredibly boring, serves no purpose for the vast majority of models and makes any case where it applies a shit coice unless you can also leverage very powerful invulnerable saves.
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What happened to all the bitching about Scoria and Mechanicum? Everyone was calling him OP bullshit and now that seems to have stopped.
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>>53815479
People have accepted that in a vacuum Scoria can murder anything and have just started to either ignore his slow ass or taken to swamping him with tarpits.
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>>53815592
Inferno happened, sekhmets are the new bitching target.
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New thread when?
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>>53815823
>tfw 7.5 will change nothing and my sekhmets will still be godly
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>>53812949
hory shet, that Sokar is a big fella when upright.
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>>53815989
>tfw you can't perform a tactical 9/11 with a Stormbird
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So, how do all these vehicles compare in scale to modern vehicles? I mean, sure that Stormbird is big, but when held next to a large Boeing jet, doesn't it seem small as fuck, though chunky.
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>>53815989
For you.
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>>53816029
>heroic scale is all manner of fucks
Ya don't say anon
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>>53816032
And you.
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Is this how /hhg/ dies, without a kiss?
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>>53816613
Slow thread time mate, euro's are at work, burgers are just starting their day, Aussies are still in bed. Only people left are poverty countries that have snail speed internet.
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>>53816707
Do you have a banner image? If so, why haven't you made a new thread already
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>>53816613
Has died recently a good few times. I'll throw it up again in about an hour when I get home, if nobody's beat me to it.

Honestly I've noticed a little surge in quality after loss of thread continuity, it's not all bad.
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Like an idiot I bought a Malcador Annihilator but want to field it as the battlecannon/demolisher cannon variant. What's the best way to convert the turret? Been looking at the cannons from a taurox prime and imperial knight as possible candidates but not too sure which would fit best.
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>>53816722
Because I don't give a fuck. I was only explaining, if you care so much you make the damn thread.
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