What's going to be the sign that the dying /tg/ is finally dead?

>>53761642
mods deleting thulsa doom threads. quests getting their own board, story time getting sent to /lit/, art getting sent to draw, image dumps getting deleted. Basically a circle jerk community determined to make /tg/ dry and on topic, being ran more like a sub reddit than anything else


"Off-topic; all images and discussion should pertain traditional games such as board games, paper games, war games, and card games."

moots gone, and was absent for a while anyway. Gookmoot doesnt care.

It won't truly die. It will continue on slowly deforming and mutating more and more. Like a grotesque ghoul, just a rotten husk with cancer growing on it. Still living but not alive.

>>53761718
>mods deleting thulsa doom threads
Can't happen soon enough.

>>53761739
Thusadoom was always a single thread at night, and it was pretty funny. You are just a sour puss. Thats right, I called it like it is. You go look in a mirror and quit making lemon sucking faces. I have faith in you, that someday you will be a whole person. a complete person.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd_iWuE

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>>53761718
We couldn't do things in moderation.

Some smut would be good, so we flooded the entire board with porn until we whined the mods to get rid of them, and the mods obliged.

A few quests are all right, so we flooded the entire board with quests and forced the mods to ban them as well.

The occasional Thulsa Doom or "Get in here!", perhaps once every couple months, would've been fine, but while they were still allowed we threw them in daily, until folks just got tired at them and the mods then intervened.

We are autistic binary-minded shitheads who can't come up with a good compromise between zero tolerance and choking on it. So first we choked on them, then we got rid of them. Now all we have left is the placid, harmless shit that no one cares enough about to hate.

It was us, /tg/. We have no one but ourselves to blame. We twisted our beloved home, like a retarded infant would choke the adored family pet.

>>53761899
>One can of Pringles is ok
>so I ate so much I have to lose weight to qualify for lap band surgery

>>53761926
>And now if I ever so much as eat a single can of Pringles, a doctor comes in, slaps the can out of my hand, and punches me in the face

>>53761642
When we look like /tv/.

>>53761718
Most of those things are garbage though. And story times are super lame no one cares about your shitty fan fiction.

>>53761899
I'd rather blame /pol/.

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>>53762043
You may not care, but don't speak for the entire fucking board.

/tg/ was at its best when it had something for everyone: your attitude, putting content down and claiming no one cared, was the first stake in the coffin we live in right now.

/tg/ is shit because of you and your ilk. I hope you're happy.

>>53761642q
Attention-whoring namefags try and force their persona as a meme in a fit of egotism.

Or, really, when the board stops being about enjoying games and is nothing but blindly hating one game more than another, whining about everything being shit, complaining about how the board is run, complaining about new content, regardless of its actual quality, and a majority of threads are designed to insight anger and argumentation in other posters, or, even more disheartening, threads are made in that style because it's the only way to get any discussion about a particular topic.

>>53761642

/tg/ is actually reviving a bit IMO. Yeah yeah yeah it's summer so we've got 2-3 months of shitposting hell ahead of us. But this last year's been pretty good.

We saw some good threads on biosuits. A great thread on middle eastern superheroes (little or no shitposting!) GURPS as a meme is dying down, even as good sensible non-shitposting pro-GURPS shilling is up. THe edition wars among D&D players are dying down. Eclipse Phase is finally going out of fashion. /pol/ vs /sjw/ shitposting is way down from a couple years ago.

/tg/ has always been 95% shit. That's really true of anything. But that 5% that's worth somethign has been going up in quality lately. So here's hoping there's a revival in progress.

>>53762359
This guys got it.

I've been here only about 4 years and in my opinion the two problems were quests making me archive after 3 hours and fuckwads only joining a thread to shout niggerfaggot and shitpost

>>53762359
I admire your optimism.

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>>53762261
/tg/ does need her scapegoat boogeyman.

Better to externalize the blame than to face ourselves.

>>53761718
But /tg/ SHOULDN'T be "anything goes". Its chief problem is all the crossboard questposters who stuck around because they realized they could make shit up and never actually roleplay.

Add in all the 40kids, DnD-drones, and hardcore cuckolds and it's no wonder this board sucks.

>>53761642
Removal of quests.

>>53762556
>they could make shit up and never actually roleplay
What's the difference.

>>53762465

You've got it backwards. I've got very low expectations, so when something good pops up then I'm pleasantly surprised. I'm on enough other boards to know that you can have boards with less shitty threads... but also nothing that's particularly cool or interesting. /tg/ produces stuff you wouldn't see anywhere else. Most of it stuff you wouldn't want to see at all, but some of it very good and original indeed.

If you know a better general rpg forum, by all means tell me.

When you hide all threads with general in the title and every thread is gone. That's when you'll know.

>>53762687
Spoken like a true NARPfag.

>>53762677
You have to go back.
>>>/qst/

>>53761642
It's already happened.

>>53762710
>all generals are immediately bad

The actual quality of .ist general threads aside, the IDEA of them is sound, at least. A single place where you can discuss a single topic. If you have a question, ask a general thread first. Now, they tend to be containment threads and foster "boys club" mentality and degenerate autism, but in theory, at least, they're fine.

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>tfw you'd love a dry board for your modelling and gaming hobbies, like a gaming club online

>have to share it with a bunch of "cuhrazee adventures" RPG types who play one session on Roll20 and don't actually own any books or miniatures, panty maid quest #9748 losers, and people who think 40k lore is about posting drawn porn of Daemonettes/Tau/Sisters of Battle

I actually wouldn't mind another split

>>53762556
Nobody said it should be anything goes, there's a world of difference between that and no fun OC. Things like drawthreads and writefaggotry form the substance of the community here, and if everything that isn't a 40K general is removed the board will become /m/, /o/, /po/, or any other dead board where everything that is discussed is 100% on topic.
When doing the suffering/deserving grid the other week many anons pointed out how much we borrowed from other boards. /tg/ naturally takes from other boards and puts its own spin on things.

>>53761642
When the threads stop threading

>>53762821
Generals run counter to the very idea of 4chan and should never be allowed.

>>53762835
100% this.

Fuck this idiotic notion of /tg/ as a replacement for other boards. Fuck the "ideas guys" who 'storytiem' at each other all day. Fuck the 40kids and DnD-drones. Put them in their own containment board, or hell, just make a board for /rpgs/ and let /tg/ return to being containment for them. Sharing this space with these lowest common denominator idiots completely throttles honest discussion into interesting subjects.

>>53762894
The idea of, "You can talk about whatever you want, as long as it's board related"? How so?

>>53762835
>>53762908
Unironically go to Reddit or some other forum with usernames. Why stay on 4chan if you hate faggots?

>>53761718
All of those things sound good.

>>53762942
Because where else would they find things to be butthurt about?

>>53762710
I, too, hate discussion of games

>>53762326
The miserable fuck is of course happy, now everyone is miserable and as "hard" as he is.

10/10 to you anon. The Smorgasboard approach was nice.

>>53762894

It's impossible to avoid though. Take /sp/, a good chunk of people want to talk about all aspects of the Premier League or NBA or whatever, at "breaking news" pace.

Would you want to see a new thread every time Manchester United or Chelsea sign a new player? You wouldn't want the effort even if you were interested, and if you weren't interested it would clutter up the board to you.

>>53762942
I use several different boards and ONLY /tg/ has this retarded notion of being a hub for certain people rather than specific topics. People here are the most wretched, slovenly, fragile group on 4chan. Every time I come on /tg/ it is unironically like going on a generic internet forum; everyone just posts whatever they like without any regard to the purpose of the board or the quality of discussion.

>>53763065
Name the other boards you use.

>>53762942

Because there's diamonds amongst the shit.

/tg/ is a bit like /trv/ if only 20% of the users actually had a passport and went on holiday there. There's an impotence of genuine effort from a lot of people.

>>53763079
Aside from /tg/ I regularly browse /a/, /c/, /d/, /int/, /lit/, /pol/, /qst/, /v/, /vg/ and sometimes /x/.

>>53763104
>bitching about having to wade through shit on 4chan
Fuck off and don't return. The shit is to weed out transplants like you.

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>>53763120
>thinks he has any right to complain about /tg/

>>53763125

Except I've been here since before the /b/ Dial Soap spam, that's my earliest memory anyway. I moved on from that /b/ mentality, where you might have stumbled a little bit and thought that was how the whole site was meant to be approached.

>>53762894
nah, generals are fine for subjects that are flooding the catalog like D&D and 40K. there is no need for a Star Trek General. the mods should create a shortlist of permitted generals and banhammer everyone else

>>53762835
>I actually wouldn't mind another split
yes, a /fgt/ board for you, /tg/ for everyone else

>>53763065
>everyone just posts whatever they like without any regard to the purpose of the board or the quality of discussion.
if it drives assholes like you away. i can only applaud them

>>53763171
If one doesn't understand the law of Sturgeon despite that then one has no place to be talking about /b/ mentalities.

>>53763163
None of those other boards has the problem that /tg/ does. If I go on any one of them, I will find threads directly related to the topic of the board, and I will not find anybody who believes that "you don't need any other boards lel".

>>53763245

You don't have to waste your like rolling around in shit mate. Come to /trv/, ten pages of on-topic, polite, posting. It's not hard when the people on the board actually partake in the things discussed.

>>53763268
>/pol/fag crossboarder doesn't understand board culture
I bet you get shat on every time you post in /a/ as well.

So since this seems to be this boards meta-thread, why does /tg/ have a dice function if you can only actually "play" games on /qst/?

Do people on here just not use filters?

>>53761642
When I publish the FATAL revamp that I've been working on for a few years and I hinted at on /tg/ multiple times. I have about 3 more months of work on it. Then I need to test it. Any volunteers?

>>53763285
>spoon feed me les gems
>>>r/4chan
Otherwise sit down and learn to filter and hide. Assimilate or leave.

>>53761899
>>53762280
Best posts.

Quit complaining and go out there to make the board you want it to be.

>>53763234
Agreed.
>>53763065
poster seems like an abrasive fuckhead.

what makes anyone here so certain there's a specific set of things one can do to stop being the shithole this whole website clearly is?

granted, this board is still probably the best rpg board, but it`s part of 4chan, and 4chan was never good. we all know this.

just accept that there will be some shitposting, there will be some drawfags, there will be some retarded childish storytime, there will be some of the exact same 40k/that guy/ /pol/fag threads every single fucking day, and there will always be an infinite amount of retards like >>53762835 that don't understand that removing all of these annoying things is what ruins a board.

>>53763293
>why do we still have dice
Same reason you were born with a pancreas.

>>53763291
Sorry to burst your bubble there, queer trans-otherkin bitch, but I'm not your /pol/ boogeyman. /tg/ is probably the worst board on the site, in terms of its average poster's sheer disdain for both 4chan and its own supposed topic.

>>53762261

I just came back since I last stopped posting in 2011, /tg/ went to shit when the sagefags finally had their way and /tg/ got a mod, that sticky is /tg/'s epitaph, just so you know.

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>>53763375
>literally crossboards from /pol/
>"if you don't like me smearing shit everywhere you must be a tumblrina" like an average /pol/fag too

>>53763361
So what did /tg/ evolve into that required the thing /tg/ was made to facilitate get its own completely separate board for? /qst/ looks pretty dead, how were quests a problem?

>>53763409
Contrary to your insane view of the world, /pol/ is not the source of your problems. The source of people 'smearing shit everywhere' is a homegrown /tg/ phenomenon - the retards who've never so much as cracked open a rulebook, that believe that you can just post whatever you want here. The cancer killing /tg/ is the horde of brainless drones that came here strictly for memes and have no interest in actually participating in the hobby.

>>53763487
>/pol/fag crossboards to /tg/ and is actively hostile toward board culture
>but /pol/ is not the source of problems

>>53763513
Hating secondaries is not a /pol/ monopoly

>>53763513
I didn't migrate from /pol/ you fucking dweeb, and I actually play traditional games.

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In this thread:

People fighting over bait and arguing rather than pursuing their interests and having fun.

>>53763547
Yes you did.

>>53763559
No, I originally came from /a/ to /tg/ in 2012, I only started browsing /pol/ in 2014.

>>53763581
Yet you act like a standard /pol/fag in every respect.

>>53763555
What if fighting over bait and arguing rather IS my interest and how I have fun?

>>53763624

Then it would be best done on a board that is designed for it.

>>53763586
I think you are fucking ridiculous. I don't defend /pol/shit on /tg/. Quite the opposite, I want all off topic bullshit to be removed, I want /tg/ to be a board legitimately for traditional games, not this toxic milieu of 'lel randum storytiem' and 'excuse me commissar'. You seem like a disgusting NARPfag though so there's little point in arguing with you.

>>53763666
>crossboards but still thinks boards should be run his way
>tosses around buzzwords and throws a hissy fit when denied
Yup, /pol/.

>>53761899

Yeah, /tg/ has become noticeably less diverse. The cross-pollination of write-fags and RP and tabletop is gone. Quests are slowly diminishing on their own board, cut loose from the rich, pulpy top soil that was /tg/.

It'll eventually be just another meme board.

>>53761642

That'll be your sign btw.

When there's no more interesting threads and nobody still around willing to make them, of course.

>>53762835
>panty maid quest #9748 losers
I know, right? Panty Maid Quest #9747 was inherently superior.

>>53763480
We've had dice since before quests were an a thing. We have dice because most the shit the board's topic covers uses dice.

>>53761642
When people stop posting homebrews.

>>53763731
I feel like the issue with /qst/ is that there isn't really any draw other than quests. You go there, you have no idea what you might find that could interest you. All you know is that you will see quests.

Whereas when they were on /tg/, I would at least read the blurbs in the catalog while browsing for other things, and occasionally one or two would catch my eye.

>>53762942
>Why stay on 4chan if you hate faggots?
I thought this was the website for Nazis.

>>53763409
>literally crossboards from /pol/
>he thinks posting in more than one board is "crossboarding"
Here's a prime example of the "you only need /tg/" retards who are ruining this place.

>>53761642
like inside or the the sweet release kind?

>>53763854
It is when you're from /pol/ and you continue to act like a /pol/fag outside of /pol/.

>>53763729
What the fuck do you think crossboarding is? Is it just using more than one board?

>>53763806
>We've had dice since before quests were an a thing
See, when you post obviously false statements like this, it lets everyone know that your opinions can be ignored.

The dice sticky was made in June 2011. We had many quests on /tg/ for at least two years before that.

The dice feature was given to /tg/ specifically to make it easier for people to run quest threads on /tg/.

>>53763880
You know a crossboarder when you see one.

>>53763877
You originally called him a crossboarder merely for mentioning he visited /pol/. Contrary to what you may believe, wanting /tg/ to be on topic is not a /pol/ view.

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>>53762043
fuck you, I do.

>>53761642
and to answer your question when we agree on something.

>>53761642
Oh great another vent thread and the janitors must be asleep fuck this.
Nothings dying you mong you're just complaining about shit that isn't there.

>>53763925
Acting with blatant disregard for board culture and jerking yourself off for shitting up a bunch of other boards simultaneously is pretty clear crossboarder behavior. Browse other boards if you like but assimilate to each or fuck off.

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>crossboarders
boy only wet backs cross borders,
I here was raaised in one broad, an no dam muslin is gona take mah wayfus

>>53763666
whatever the terminology and semantics, you truly sound like a pollie

>>53761739
It's been happening for years. Not only is old /tg/ gone, every horrid thing that has cropped up has either done away with itself because it was terrible or been destroyed because it stuck around by being good. and we can't have people enjoying themselves on the internet hate machine.

>>53763886
Then why were they kicked off when they were supposed to be on here?

>>53763010
Yeah, I've never understood why /tg / bothers trying to be on topic when it's awful at every game it's talking about.

>>53764030
Change in management and a LOT of complaining by the internet badwrongfun brigade.

>>53764030
too much of them and quantity of bitching becoming quality
Should've allowed them outside of /tg/

>>53764030
>Then why were they kicked off when they were supposed to be on here?
A guy who didn't like quest threads became a mod last March and used his mod status to make the new board.

The initial announcement thread for /qst/ was pretty hilarious because it was clear that he had no idea what quest threads were, other than "something I don't like", and even though the thread OP was phased as "let's hear your ideas on the matter", the mod ignored the majority of posts saying /qst/ was a dumb idea and opened the new board two hours after making the announcement thread.

The thread is archived on 4plebs if you want to read it yourself.

>>53763291
>board culture
That's the same shit that /v/ tried to pull and moot yanked chunks off it three times because they couldn't just fucking talk about video games. I remember when /q/ was up and /v/ demanded that mods not delete penis inspection day, dragon dildos, traps, fucking gamestop, or singalong threads because the board would be dead without them.

Don't fuck up and become /v/. You already had /qst/. Don't make /40k/, /ctg/, and /rpg/ happen.

>>53763163
So going on 10 boards and calling one shit isn't allowed.

But being a secluded neckbeard on only one allows you to complain about that one

>>53764030
See >>53761899

>>53763555
This should be a /tg/ slogan because it encompasses everything that's wrong with the board.

>>53763285
Thank you, I'm starting to get sick of all these fucked who are rude because "it's 4chan you're supposed to be" I cheer when one of my threads is full of discussion.

But you can't get that if you make any thread about a specific system or setting or God forbid FUN

>>53763646
That defeats the entire purpose.

>>53763316
Fuck it why not

>>53763886
Huh. Must just be my memory being fucktarded again, could've sworn it was the opposite.
My mistake.

>>53764198
Nobody's being rude because "you're supposed to be"; we just don't mince words like the other sites you're more used to. Grow some thicker skin.

>>53764057
>>53764069
>>53764113
>>53764155

Okay, so going by this trend there's going to be a /tgg/ for all the generals? I'm looking through the archive now, but did quests outnumber Generals at some point?

>>53764030
Idiot ban evaders shitposting for a solid decade made the mods cave in to gey them to finally shut the fuck up.

Unsurprisingly, once the brain dead retards got their way, /tg/ almost immediately spiraling into a shit heap of a dead board. Interesting how that worked.

>>53764129
Going to modern /v/ is depressing. It's like watching a lobotomy patient in a straightjacket, sitting in a corner drooling and repeating the same six phrases all day every day.

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>>53761899
>We are autistic binary-minded shitheads who can't come up with a good compromise between zero tolerance and choking on it
While you are right we are no different than any other human society regarding this

>>53764264
Well, I don't think any of the current mods are religiously anti-general, so probably not. And the number of quests at any point could outnumber the Generals, but most quests only ran 4-8 hours at a time a couple of times a week, then fell off the board. Generals are basically forever.

>>53764235
I've been here 5 years and I've got thick skin, but that doesn't mean I wanna be called a niggerfaggotjewcuck every time I want to discuss how to make a cool villain.

>>53764264
>Okay, so going by this trend there's going to be a /tgg/ for all the generals?

The no-fun crowd has been whining about too many generals since about a month after quest threads were banned on /tg/. Same with the Choose-Your-Own Adventure threads.

It's funny how people think that questfags are the ones trying to get these other topics banned, but questfags don't want to stop other people from having fun on /tg/. Antiquestfags are the ones who don't like other people having fun on /tg/.

>>53764030
Multiple reasons. Quest writers started to over do it to the point where it became an insular community. No one wanted quest part 10. 3part quest used to be a sign of great quality/amusement because quests were short. Now every quest is expected to last 5+parts minimum.

The other issue was that other mods from other boards also forced their quests down tg 's throat. So quests became longer, it became more numerous and it started to get into topics that majority of tg could not get into.

>>53764368
Whatever the topic on /tg/, you can be sure there are people here that despise it and would want nothing more than for its removal from the board. It would've been best to just have let us have them all, but nope.

>>53764235
Every time you wanna go play at your game store you get punched in the nuts. Don't like it, suck it up.

If we stop allowing /pol/ to punch you in the nuts everyone but them will be much happier

>>53764368
How would you enforce ban on generals anyway, it's an unrealistic idea.

>>53764442
I assume /v/ and /vg/ managed it somehow

>>53763487
>Contrary to your insane view of the world, /pol/ is not the source of your problems.
Right, it's just the source of a bunch of butthurt shitposters. The extent to which that's a problem is a measure of how invested anyone is in getting /tg/ content without wading through irrelevant bullshit that belongs elsewhere.

>>53764411
No, moderation is needed, but it does need to be restrained. Everything is just too fucking heavy handed.

>>53763810
Hey, we are almost there

>>53763990
Exactly. Don't start a /tg/ thread and try to drive its topic towards anime, or video games or books, or whatever else if you are not relating it to /tg/.
A great example is when something is moderately popular or interesting as a setting and someone makes a thread about using it or its ideas for his games, those are great threads in theory, but give it only a few posts and people will use them to discuss video game mechanics, or their opinions on characters, maybe just waifufagging, or politics and so on, they have very little interest on developing content or just brainstorming cool things to roleplay.

>>53764442
This. Even if you did remove the ones with Generals in the title, you'd still have such memorable and spammable threads as Pathfinder is Shit, What does /tg/ think about Numenera, Dwelf thread #4712, The Moment you realized D&D was Shit, and lastly, What would happen if we put Doomguy in 40k?

>>53764235
Using insults is more than "not mincing words" you slack jawed churl and don't pretend it isn't fucking rude.

There's a difference between "you're absolutely wrong and here's why," and screaming at strangers.

>>53763555
Being angry about everything is what /tg/ is for.

You don't even need other boards
>>53763559
The fact that you browse /pol/ at all make you a fucking piece of shit.

>>53764394
This. Because quests from every other board were shipped here regardless of content, you had an influx of newcomers from other boards who were in /tg/ only for the quests and had no interest in anything else.

It didn't help that a lot of quests were pretty exclusively waifubait which was like icing on the shit cake for people who couldn't tolerate weeaboos.

>>53764424
>not being polite is the equivalent of punching someone in the nuts
Little bitch.

>>53764515
And that's fine

>>53764517
Then those would get banned too like everything else? It seems that people hate something, get it removed, then move on to the next one. Eventually we'd just get to the lowest denominator.

>>53764552
Insult a stranger on the street and see how that goes for you. Call the next random person you see a faggot cuck & see how they respond

>>53764589
>imageboards are real life
Autistic too.

>>53764606
Fucking coward.

>>53764552
See >>53764526
To add to the concept, if you tell me "you're wrong for X, Y and Z reasons" I can engage with that. We can have a real human interaction, and maybe even come to some sort of understanding. One of us might even convince the other of something.

If you just call me "a retarded sjw turbocuck" or something like that, there's nothing even remotely resembling productive that can happen there.

>>53764497
Not for lack of trying. I post my homebrew board games and nobody replies.

>>53764580
HAH! That's how it's supposed to Fucking Work already! You think mods are actually going to learn the nuances of /tg/ and learn what a /tg/-specific Shitpost is? Get real. The mods aren't /tg/, and they'll never be /tg/ enough to do what you're asking. It's always been up to us, the community to handle ourselves.

>>53764515
Except that's called "conversation." It's a natural part of engaging with human beings in an exchange of ideas. You don't just close yourself off to different perspectives because muh moderation.

>>53761642
/tg/ will ultimately be dead as a board when all creativity and discussion is snuffed out or "contained", generals have gone a long way in this regard but aren't solely to blame

>>53762261
Christ alive its nowhere near as bad as it is on say /co/ or /v/ where theres basically a thinly veiled /pol/ thread every day at least

I honestly wonder if mods have stopped Trying to contain /pol/

>>53764575
Why aren't they duscussing it on their board? If it's some dumb excuse like
>because that board is shit
Not my problem. I had many threads discussing cool video game settings where I'd reply to nearly everyone talking about TTRPG ideas as much as possible and those idiots would still be around talking about things that should be on /vg/ or /v/, same things with anime and /a/. I even made threads in those boards before and you can bet I never went /tg/ there.
It wouldn't be an issue if it was a few posts, nobody wants people to be forced to be 100% on topic, but when you realise that, unless you are in a thread dedicated to a stabilished but not very popular game or setting, you will be stuck with unrelated arguments, you really start thinking twice about joining anything.

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>>53764394
>The other issue was that other mods from other boards also forced their quests down tg 's throat.

Are you telling me you didn't enjoy having 99% of the front page being animu waifu shit quests? What is more /tg/ than that?

>>53764716
I will say this about generals: while generally quite useful for performing deep dive research into a topic, they limit the creativity of the board as a whole. Also, because people frequent generals and limit their conversations about certain things to them, it's hard to get a general sense of knowledge about tabletop games on /tg/ right now. It makes writing the Daily Neckbeard very difficult, because so much "news" is posted or discussed in only 1 general thread and never gets out of that thread.

>>53764622
Literally "say that to my face and not online" tier reply.

>>53764746
As usual, everything in moderation. Like 99% waifu animu quests was a pretty shitty predicament, yeah, but so is banning quests altogether because it's one less thing people would like to come to /tg/ for.

An ideal would've been somewhere around 5% quests. Two or three quests running at the same time, at most, that's all. But, you know how it goes, we all had to have our own fucking quest that we could shove down the throats of everyone else, and...

>>53764757
>the Daily Neckbeard

wat

>>53764746
I recall a lot of the quests were civ builders, or stories. There were strike witches and shit like that, but it was 2-4. not the entire front page. I recall a lot of the evo quests/ games got shit on hard despite being the purest form of /tg/ which is world building. For fuck's sake, a certain mod even made it some a few of the quest names would auto sage regardless of post or content.

>>53764641
We probably don't actually disagree then because I don't post solely to throw buzzwords unless they're seriously not worth holding a discussing with.

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>>53764368
>It's funny how people think that questfags are the ones trying to get these other topics banned, but questfags don't want to stop other people from having fun on /tg/. Antiquestfags are the ones who don't like other people having fun on /tg/.

Rubbish. You can tell how bitter questfags are anytime these meta threads pop up and they start to chime in.

>>53764900
Eh... as bad as any Questfag is, I've never seen them be as bad as any Anti-Questfag. Questfags are just sore losers, but the Anti-Questfags are both sore winners AND losers.

>>53764795
>An ideal would've been somewhere around 5% quests
Average quests by volume on /tg/ was 8% the week before /qst/ was created.

>>53764900
>be kicked onto a board that isn't modded, has no Janitors and basically no quality control that /tg/ normally provided through having a user base that actually cared about stuff this isn't trash

You'd be bitter too if you were in their predicament, I don't think a single decent quest actually survives to this day that isn't Hive queen quest or /a/ trash about cute girls or random seasonal stuff

>>53764900
>questfags want to ban other types of content
>you can tell because questfags don't like being moved to /qst/

This isn't even an argument.

>>53764900
>>53764950
A quest is a self contained thread. It didn't go into any other thread and invade them, tell them what they needed to do or say. However I can count numerous instances someone came in just to try and kick sandcastles down.

Really, tell me where a quest thread visited any other thread and told them they needed to come play, or how their quest would fit X and whatever. It didnt happen. People are sore because they were treated like shit for no other reason than that people didnt like their fun, and didn't know how to use a filter.

>>53764900
Bitterness is not the same thing as wanting to ban other people having fun, your response to that anon makes no sense.

>>53765003
well I mean there WAS the general but that was kind of purpose built for it

Didn't the upspike in generals also correspond with the quest ban?

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>>53764998

>questfags were (in their mind) wronged
>they aren't going to lash out

Okay. I guess questfags are better humans than everyone else on the planet.

>>53764606
Until we fully upload our consciousness to the Internet then yes this is real life because you exist irl, the device you use exists irl, and the person you interact with on the other side exist irfuckingl.

You don't behave like this everywhere else but you do here, and you do it here because there's no consequences to your shitslinging, but that doesn't mean it's a proper way to behave.

>>53765056
>I guess questfags are better humans than everyone else on the planet.
Thanks anon!

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/tg/ will only truly be lost if it loses its guardian spirit.

And since she lives in our banner, there will always be hope.

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>>53765056
nice shitty argument. You sound like an Ex of mine. "oh im wrong? It must be nice to be so right!"

Yeah. yeah it does. Nice emotional argument.

Ugh, here come questfags bitching again...

As someone who ran and played in quests I still supported /qst/ because most people that were in to quests had NO interest in /tg/ and, I believe, strongly contribute to ruining the board to this day. I suspect that quests were the main point of entry for the original crowd of NARPfags, but unfortunately it seems they take at least as much delight in shitting the place up as they did in participating in quests, or probably more, given the state of /qst/.

>>53765148
>As someone who ran and played in quests but doesn't use a tripcode or have any evidence that I'm actually a QM or have any stake in the matter

Great post.

>>53764746
Not when is part fucking 32.

Shit, I've read books shorter than those.

>>53763731
>Yeah, /tg/ has become noticeably less diverse. The cross-pollination of write-fags and RP and tabletop is gone. Quests are slowly diminishing on their own board, cut loose from the rich, pulpy top soil that was /tg/.

This is not a bad thing

>>53765199

Not him but everyone who posted on /tg/ has a stake in the matter.

Or maybe you'll tell us next how a bunch of thirsty obese weebs from /a/ playing their fetish quests are a bigger part of the fabric and soul of /tg/

>>53762261
/pol/ is like the cunts it hosts:

Not the reason why the board sucks, but a result of the board sucking.
Just like cockroaches don't bring uncleanliness in your home, but you living like a caveman brought them in.

>>53764781
I think that's the intent.

You fucking coward

I miss the Weekend Smut Threads...

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>wah my "minotaur with a 5'2 penis and 30 abs lactation netorare feet fart" waifu quests aren't allowed anymore /tg/ is dead

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>>53764802
It's a semi-quarterly publication that refers to events that are bannable on all boards and are filtered by the spam filter, but it's also a convenient way to show off /tg/'s board culture to other boards and inform fa/tg/uys who aren't involved in a ton of generals about some of the goings-on with /tg/ stuff.

If instead of shitposting and complaining we spent all this time putting up the content we honestly and legitimately want to see on /tg/, we'd have no reason to complain at all.

>>53765199
I never got into the tripfag meme, I have run under names associated with the quest, and admittedly never for more than 4 parts in 1 quest, but yeah I've done it both on /tg/ and /qst/.

>>53764741
Because that's how conversations work. We aren't doing a podcast or running a forum.

If you want to talk about something just post it.

>>53765261

how do I subscribe to this newsletter?

>>53765284
What quest/s?

>>53765241
Eh...

I don't seek out fap material. I liked it better when it just occurred.

>>53765228
Nah, I just meant that every metathread about quests on /tg/ gets one anonymous poster who claims to run a quest and loves /qst/, which is the opposite of what every quest runner on /qst/ actually says.

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>>53761642
I vote this Catharsis of /tg/, best thread.

>>53765148
What does NARP even mean?

>>53765376
"having fun incorrectly".

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I use to think /tg/ up and died somewherein the last few years but then we get discourse like this that doesn't descend into a shitposting crapfest and I see /tg/ still has some life in it.

>>53765316
Mm, several, as I said. Sheepgirl Civ, Hikki Sorceress Quest, an Eclipse Phase and Mage the Ascension quest most recently, and others over the years.

>>53765376
Never Actually RolePlayed

>>53765463
>Sheepgirl Civ, Hikki Sorceress Quest Eclipse Phase and Mage the Ascension ques

I honestly can't recall these quests but I wouldn't be surprised if I missed them

When did you run them?

>>53762359
>Eclipse Phase is finally going out of fashion.

What's wrong with Eclipse Phase?

>>53765515
Most recently was in December IIRC, though I've run quests for years.

>It's another "Quests never did anything wrong ever and were perfect OC creating machines that improved the quality of everyone's lives and made some anons lose their virginity and the only reason they were banned is because evil mean jerkfaces spammed the board 24/7 with BADWRONGFUN that had no purpose other than to be mean and the mods listened despite it only being 1 guy that wanted quests gone and /qst/ is a barren wasteland of shit because even though quests are pure and good and OC machines for some reason they can't function off of /tg/" episode

Every time I open the catalog, I see the second sticky and smile.

>>53765603
You seem pretty worked-up. Are you going to be ok when the mods allow quests back on /tg/?

>>53765553
For a shortlist, the mechanics are shoddy, the balance is fairly poor with psi being ridiculously underpowered for the insane costs you need to take it in the first place and use it often enough to justify taking it, and synthetic morphs being a bit too good, especially if you manage to customize them heavily enough, with their immunities to biological problems. The setting is a bit janky, too, with too much being left blank in my opinion. One more subjective problem is how much less your body matters in Eclipse Phase as compared to most other games. One of my players had some trouble adjusting to that.

Still, overall, it had some pretty fun RP before the mechanical problems did my campaign in.

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>>53765603
Are you having a stroke?

>>53765655
>being in denial about quests to the point you think mods have a say anymore in them being here

your dubs have been revoked

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>>53761642

>>53765055
Generals were partly a response to quests killing threads in hours that used to last days and partly a response to the uptick in bottom-tier trolling. Shame what they became.

>>53762359
>good sensible non-shitposting pro-GURPS shilling
All GURPS shilling is the worst kind of shitposting, Anon.

>>53765603
>Every time I open the catalog, I see the second sticky and smile.
Same.

>>53764746
Now it's 99% shitposting, troll threads, and argument baits.

Good job!

>>53766192
I know, a vast improvement.

>>53761718
Quests getting their own board is the best thing to ever happen to /tg/ and everyone fucking knows it.

Except questfags, they are hell bent on being autistic specifically here for some reason.

Easy, when WOTC, and GW close down. Until then, /tg/ will carry on,
>muh board culture
Thanks to the anonymous nature of it, culture is rather fleeting. Back in the framed browsing days, XD was perfectly allowable. "epic thread", "legendary thread" "X wins the thread." Thus is the nature of the culture of anonymous communication, culture will be far more flexible and plastic than normal face to face culture. Each anonymous culture can be subverted, the real difference lies in the difficulty of subversion of the culture, rather than the memes it produces.

Also fuck quest threads. Even back in the old days, that shit was fucking obnoxious.

>>53764795
>everything in moderation
>applying moderation to everything is key
Is that not just the opposite of moderation? The application of moderation to everything wouldn't be a moderate approach of moderating subjects. It would be a rather extreme application if you did it to everything. Should just be "moderation when best applicable" rather than everything being in moderation.

>>53766211
Eh, they're obnoxious and take up space. Tg doesn't have anything with the same ability to choke out troll threads that quests had.

There's a reason those of is who liked productive discussion also liked having quests. They ere good weed killer.

>>53762358
So /v/?

>>53766362
>Tg doesn't have anything with the same ability to choke out troll threads that quests had.
>There's a reason those of is who liked productive discussion also liked having quests. They ere good weed killer.
This, basically.

>>53765691
I haven't dove into it too much so I appreciate the explanation. I think synthmorphs being better just makes sense considering what they are and that your body mattering less is kind of the point, but otherwise you seem to be right.

That being said I'd still like it give it a go sometime.

>>53763293
It works for a randomizing element for 40k chapter creation threads, random dungeon creation, etc. The dice function is worthwhile when we use it.

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Much OC
Settings Maximum
So Crossover
Most Quality.

>>53766492
Yeah, it's the point, just saying that a player of mine had difficulties adjusting. Also, the thing that probably annoys me the most is the inconsistency in the rules. You roll 1d100. Normally, a lower result is better, you want to be under a certain number and the larger the threshold the better. When it comes to combat, that gets fucky. Combat happens fairly often, and you're going to make lots of attack/dodge rolls with how the system works. When you dodge, for some reason, you want to roll under your threshold, but STILL higher than the other guy. Why? Fuck if I know. The overall impression that I get is that the rules were written by multiple people who didn't communicate well, or just poorly edited.

>>53766489
Shit with Corn in it is Bad
Sloppy Diarrhea Shit is Good

Protip: Shit is shit and it all stinks.

>>53766362
>>53766489
See, the problem with that it actually constitutes a point.

But who cares, since apparently quests were literally half the board at all times and all of them were anime waifu fetish harems.

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Can we declare a rule of three here?

Basically I propose nothing should drag on more than 3 threads. It's too inclusive and other similar threads, regardless of quality will get shat on.

If it can't be done within 3, seek other outlets so more in-depth thing can be resolved.

>>53766192
A glass of milk with nothing but arsenic and one drop of milk is probably a better glass of milk than the glass filled with nothing but glitter-dusted feces, anon.

>>53766584
>since apparently quests were literally half the board at all times and all of them were anime waifu fetish harems
Yes? Why else do you fucking think people were so sick of them? If questfags had shown some restraint with all the /a/ seepage perhaps they'd still be allowed on /tg/, but the overwhelming number of smut and blatant ERP quests killed the fun for everyone. And it's hilarious that we have animeposters who still lament the banning of quests as though they are blissfully unaware that they were the root cause.

>>53761642
A 10% increase in /pol/-posting on /tg/ would make the board pretty dead at this rate

>>53766629
>let's destroy every creative project that could possibly be made!

>>53766681
>Why else do you fucking think people were so sick of them

Because trolls were absolutely livid that their bait threads ere being shoved of the front page by quests top make way for actual discussion.

So they spent a decade shitposting and ban evading so they could go back to getting easy (You)s.

>>53762261
It's ok, I'm blame the /pfg/ SJW's

>>53766681
>>53766737
Can't we agree that it was both? Blatantly off-topic harem erp in combination with angry screaming people who can't NOT look at things they didn't like?

>>53766681
Maybe if /a/ hadn't forced moe waifu quests onto /tg/, we wouldn't have this problem.
Fuck /a/.

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>>53766743
/pfg/ is infinitely better at keeping their faggotry to themselves outside their shitty containment thread than /pol/ is with its shitty containment board.

I know it's hard to accept, /pol/acks, but you're widely despised for your annoying spam. I came here for DnD, not to hear about how the (((cultural marxists))) are conspiring to ruin our vidy- oh wait I mean traditional games, I-I'm totally a regular guys!

>>53766790
>Maybe if moot hadn't forced moe waifu quests onto /tg/, we wouldn't have this problem.

I fixed your post for accuracy.

moot herding all quests sitewide onto /tg/ caused /tg/ to be overloaded with quest threads.

Quest threads should be allowed on all boards. This would let the /a/ quests have access to the /a/ audience that's best-suited for them.

>>53761718
>implying quest Threads wasn't killing /tg because all generals were dying and every quest died after 20 posts

>>53766737
>Muh decade of shitposting and ban evasion

This expression indicates a Questfag's confusion and lack of understanding. When confronted with the fact that no board on 4chan wants their insipid shit or how their supposed OC is nothing but shitty fanfiction Questfags mumble, "Muh decade of shitposting and ban evasion." This is usually followed by saging and samefagging a metathread to the bump limit.

>>53766762
The problem was never "I don't like this so it doesn't belong here." The problem was bad quests eventually took up so much of the board that actual traditional games-related threads got choked out by them more than troll threads.

It started to get really frustrating for people actually participating in the hobby with no interest in Quest threads when your threads died with less than 10 posts if you weren't talking about 40k or sex with a maid or monstergirl.

>>53764470
Well you just call it a different name and don't say general is all so now both have Generals

>>53766762
>hurr just don't look

The point of a god damn forum is that you read all posts

You can't just consciously "choose not to see" fucking hell

>>53766681
>Why else do you fucking think people were so sick of them?
Hyperbolic statements repeated uncritically for years until they became received wisdom? This literally happens all the time. The reality of the situation is that after the ERP threads got banned what little there was in terms of actual smut moved off-site to places where it was unambiguously allowed rather than occasionally tolerated. There was only one notable holdout I can think of who was still writing by the time /qst/ happened.

And before you spout more simplistic bullshit about /a/, consider the fact that practically every popular anime franchise has some sort of RPG based on it, in some cases more than one, and don't even get me started on CCG/TCG spinoffs. Non-specific /a/-related systems like Maid and BESM are things as well and have been for years. Maybe not things you like, but legitimate /tg/ material. There's been bleedover for years, anon, and crying about it now's not going to change that.

>>53766790
Nope because by the time of /qst/ the waifu quests were a small minority compared to the Civ games and occasional evo thread.

>>53766867
>ERP threads got banned
No they literally didn't. Blatant Fetish Quest, while tongue-in-cheek, made it well into the triple digits before it stopped, and I guarantee it wasn't because of a ban.

>>53766737
>quests were killed by trolls angry that trolling was hard
Are you fucking kidding me? You can't be this delusional.

>>53766865
Catalogs and filters exist for a reason, friendo. I dont like 40k, but I don't shut up 40k threads. I filter them and continue about my day.

>>53766726
If it can't be fleshed out in 3 threads it's not a good idea. By the third thread there should be an actual semblance of a core development team with a vision. By end of third new ideas are rarer with people coming in who have not likely read previous 2 threads to completion so it doesn't even need to be in public eye anymore.

If more discussion is needed there are sources for private chats. "Part 4" should be the rough draft of the actual product done, not more pre production nonsense.

>>53766902
Go on /pgg/.

And I dare you not to "see" the anime pics the same autist posts every two post, or the fucking underage, oversized breasts.

You got a filter for that? You don't, "friendo".

>>53766822
Why would the /a/ audience be better? I don't know about you, but I'd rather run a BESM campaign with five people who actually play RPGs for fun than with five weebs with no roleplay experience. And on /a/ you'd have WAY more than five morons to herd.

More players actually makes things worse sometimes, anon. You should know that.

quest thread people are the worst and for a while they were protected by mods. i was literally banned for reporting quest threads about a week after /qst/ started and it was mandatory that they were on the quest thread board.

yall deserve your containment board lol

>>53766865
Good thing this is an image board with built in filter.

Look at that, I don't like Generals so I filtered 44 of them just now.

>>53766959
>>53766902
Hey look at that, I don't like quest threads so they get a nice board all to themselves.

>>53766895
Who do you think my "one notable holdout" was?

Also that's one counterexample. Hardly seems like it would "overburden" the board, anon.

>>53766926
I,can choose not to go there in the first place. I also have this amazing ability I call, "Being able to ignore things I don't like". If there's a picture I dont care about, I don't expand it. If theres a thread I don't want to see, I hide it. And if there's a fucktarded post, I don't reply. It's brilliant, really.

>>53766913
But what will the Jumpchain autists do if they can't get to 1555 threads?

>>53761642
When the entire front page is Pathfinder General

>>53766951
Incorrect. You were banned for submitting a false report, because /qst/ was still a trial board.

Have fun with your crippling inability to grasp basic concepts. Hope that works out for you.

>>53766259
>Except questfags, they are hell bent on being autistic specifically here for some reason.
Quest threads owned the first page for so long that /qst/fagsdecided the board was rightfully theirs and now that we kicked them out, they're going full "Weimar opinion on the Versailles Treaty".

>>53767016
>you were banned for submitting a false report when you reported something for breaking a rule

it wasn't a trial board at this point. i literally said "after it started," not "after it was an idea."

you'd think with all the time you spend reading quests you'd know how to read lol

Quests were shit get fucked faggots.

Besides questfags constantly lied about shit and actually were proven to be the shittiest people on the board who tried to sabotage qst and false flag as it was made because they wanted shitty animu shit here. Luckily the mod saw through their bullshit and kicked them out anyway.

Generals are fine because guess what there's only 1 per topic instead of 10% of the board being literally faggot anime fags being faggy.

Fuck questfags they got what the deserved. Generals are actually kinda nice and only rretards like fucking moot can't see their value because they are literal autists.

And they're still crying and making meta threads declaring the death of tg because they can't wipe their asses here anymore.

>>53767053
>reporting quest threads about a week after /qst/ started

/qst/ existed and was fully functional during its "trial" stage during which quests were permitted on both.

>>53764274
>>53766737
>ban evading conspiracy theorist
Next, tell us about how the Holocaust didn't happen, and is a lie manufactured by the Illuminati Jew!

Optionally neck yourself.

>>53767132
i meant as in when it was a rule that quest threads went on /qst/. yeah i didn't literally say that but it was/really should be obvious enough by the fact that i reported a quest thread for breaking rules by not being on the quest board that it wasn't during the "let's see if it works" period. as a guy said earlier, "Have fun with your crippling inability to grasp basic concepts. Hope that works out for you."

You will never get quests back on /tg/ and all you are doing is whining enough to cement that you deserve it.

It's also worth noting to these quest autists screaming dead board that tg is actually faster now than it ever has been.
Funny how that works.

>>53767053
See >>53767132
Again, have fun with your crippling inability to understand basic concepts.

>>53767116
First thing, don't you be badmouthing mootykins you filthy fucking heathen.

Second thing, anyone who seriously argues that something was a "false flag" without presenting credible evidence is a special kind of special. Either put up or shut up.

Third thing, fuck you and your opinion.

>>53767177
Actually no, its not obvious because there were quests that running on /tg/ during this period that had shitposters telling them to get out and subsequently getting banned.

Do you know about which time of year you were reporting them?

>>53763559
braindead retards like you are what kills /tg

>>53766936
>Why would the /a/ audience be better? I don't know about you, but I'd rather run a BESM campaign with five people who actually play RPGs for fun than with five weebs with no roleplay experience

That's fine. A BESM game is obviously /tg/-related, so a BESM quest would fit nicely on /tg/.

The hyperbolic "Loli Pantisniffer Fanservice Quest #64956435" problem that antiquestfags like to trot out arose because so many quests that started on /a/ were simply "Here is my railroad, choose Option A (the one I will pick regardless of how many votes it gets), Option B (the one that's basically Option A), or Option C (the one that's basically Option A but written in a slightly different way). The OPs were often wannabe visual novel writers and the plotlines were often some permutation of "how many times can I type dialogue with stuttering". None of them used dice, and most of them were just excuses for the OP to write about his waifus.

>>53767231
It was proven actually and caps were provided. Not only that but quest autists started fucking with the archive to the point where the guy complained publicly.
You don't know because you weren't the or are just trying to hide behind your stupid shit
Ike most questfags do.

Moot was a retard who couldn't handle the changing board dynamic and he should kill himself.

Eat shit quest autists.

>>53766762
>can't NOT look at things they didn't like?
>>53766902
>Catalogs and filters exist for a reason
>>53766959
>Good thing this is an image board with built in filter.
>>53766978
>I,can choose not to go there in the first place.
And yet you're asshurt that quests were moved to their own board, where others choose not to go? From your own point of view there's literally no difference between filtering and moving quests to their own board so they don't clog our shit up, so why whine like bitches? If you actually believed your own arguments you'd think >>>/qst/ was a win-win solution.

tl;dr eat shit sperglords

>>53767116
>Besides questfags constantly lied about shit

Like what?

I never followed quests, but getting rid of them also got rid of a lot of folks to whom quests were the main draw, and who as a consequence brought their own brand of creativity and life to the board even outside the quests themselves. With quests being gone, we lost these people as well, and /tg/ became a little greyer and deader as a result.

But of course, all you short-sighted assholes see is quests being gone and anyone that'd want them back is faggots.

>>53767238
it was long enough that the sticky was there but short enough people were still making quest threads anyway as a sort of protest.

>>53767337
Confirmed for being a newfag who didn't have to deal with quest autism. I actually thought quests were -fun- but you ruined it for yourself with your autism so there isn't much more to say besides

GET FUCKED

>>53767294
And remind me... how many of those could hack it on /tg/? Because my memory of it was that QTG would point and laugh at their inevitable failure, and the QMs who were remembered were the ones who ran their shit competently and/or designed an interesting setting.

The hyperbole got to the point where it was treated as absolute truth, and at that point any hope of actually having a reasonable discussion ended.

>>53767231
>despite being outright told so i can't figure out that it wasn't during the trial period

who's unable to understand basic concepts again? be sure to come up out of the sand for air so you don't die please

>>53767372
Ruby Quest was pretty great. Dorf Quest was all right. But after that it all went to shit.

I personally think it should've been mandatory for all quests to at least draw their shit. It would've limited them to drawfags instead of literally everyone being able to start one, which in turn could well have kept them within tolerable limits. But eh, hindsight's 20-20.

This discussion on Quest Threads is literally more actual good content and varied points and opinions than a Quest Thread has ever provided. You know, like a good /tg/ thread.

>>53767372
>QUESTFAGS TELL LIES
>OK, can you back that statement up with evidence?
>U A FAG
Well, you sure knocked it out of the park with that argument, chump.

>>53767387
>And remind me... how many of those could hack it on /tg/? Because my memory of it was that QTG would point and laugh at their inevitable failure, and the QMs who were remembered were the ones who ran their shit competently and/or designed an interesting setting.
Well, the point was that they should have been allowed to keep running them on /a/, where they had a more interested audience. I don't know what you're trying to say, because it seems like you agree with me.

Subjective assessments of quality aside, how are quest threads not allowed on /tg/ but generals are? What does the latter have that the former does not, that led to the quests only being shunted to their own containment board?

>>53765603
Unironically this.

>>53767356
And the people who wanted quests gone at all costs don't care, because all of those people were irredeemable filthy cross-boarders.

It's literally like that faggot 40kid or roleplayer who runs off potential new players because they're not already committed to the game. If people were coming in who are interested in a quest, and actually bothered to post in other threads as well while they were here, it was an opportunity to get them interested in our hobbies rather than screeching at them/about them, thereby confirming all the stereotypes about said hobbies.

>>53767389
Trial period, measured from the time /qst/ started to the /tg/ redirect sticky, was 5 months. Your post made it ambiguous what you meant.

>>53767322
I wasn't the one whining. Simply saying theres a solution other than whining, in fact. I don't care about quests one way or another.

>>53761718
Now you made me remember that Outsider thread a week ago where someone had the audacity to declare it offtopic.
I'm sad and i hate you now.

>>53767492
Back to >/co/ with you, just because the author used GURPS for world building and character creation dosen't make it /tg/ :^)

>>53761642
So is this our one meta thread or what?

>>53767418
>muh screen caps
If you we're there you'd know you can look it up yourself smart guy.

Oh wait you quest autists sabotaged the archive whoops.


Faggot.

A lot of early quests were fun and creative. The main culprits were the quests that literally went on forever. JOKER FAG PART 235782456782465826 or fucking meta threads about faggot quests. Like that stupid FLOORS faggot who used to have discussion threads up about his quests while running them.

Stupid shit like that ruined it for everyone and that was even before anime autism attack that was the final nail in the coffin.

>>53767445
>Subjective assessments of quality aside, how are quest threads not allowed on /tg/ but generals are? What does the latter have that the former does not, that led to the quests only being shunted to their own containment board?

The mod who created /qst/ strived to become a mod because he didn't like quest threads.

Generals will no longer be allowed on /tg/ once a mod that dislikes generals is put in place.

>>53762690
RPGCodex.

>>53767445
>how are quest threads not allowed on /tg/ but generals are?
Generals are about traditional games.

>>53767577
This delusional butthurt is hilarious.

>>53767576
Shilling against quests is all well and good, but shilling against weebery is over the limit, under arrest.

>>53767622
Lol

I wish I was at my comp so I could really drill into these questfags but eh.

I mean I was a guy who genuinely enjoyed quests but that shit got ridiculous to the point of satire. Didn't help that the pick one of three format became the norm which made quests literally shit.

>>53767596
See, everything has to be /tg/ related but can't BE /tg/. A thread can't BE a traditional game, only ABOUT a traditional game. Very important distinction.

>>53766970
You personally are the cancer killing /tg/.

>>53767673
>pick one of three is a bad thing
If you had really participated in a quest, you'd understand why that's not true. The sort of write-ins that /tg/ could shit out were such a perfect combination of cringe-inducing dialog and character-breaking nonsense that it was legitimately impressive.

>>53767737
Must be quite a death cult taking root here because the thread is grumbling with relief at their purging.

>>53767445
>How are quest threads not allowed on /tg/ but generals are? What does the latter have that the former does not?
Lots of things. Very few generals have the frontpage-clogging posting rate of quests, quests inevitably become concerns for only a few engaged """"players"""" whereas anyone with an interest can hop into a general, generals can also produce curious outsiders with advice and tutorials on how to get into the game/hobby, the best generals generate real OC, and so on. Even if you disregard quality, the way generals interact with the board is clearly totally different.

And now for the subjective assessments:
>>53767695
Weeaboos writing spergfic online about uguus they want to fuck is in no way, shape or form a traditional game, you dumb cunt. Please get hit by a bus.

>>53767231
Just FYI it's literally moots fault that quests got kicked out because he had the brilliant Idea of forcing all the quests from /a/ and elsewhere here.

Dude was kinda retarded he's no saint.

>>53767764
Killed any creative storytelling in favor of keeping things on the quest runners railroad.

Off topic replies were always a thing but the people who weren't autistic have this amazingly power to ignore them.
Shocking isn't it.

>>53767793
are you one of the players from the planes and mercs board by chance? Your autism level is right about there.

>>53767596
If quests are not /tg/, then how come all the quests from every other board were thrown over here before they got a board of their own?

>>53763120
>/d/
Fucking kill yourself my man

>>53767864
Because moot is a dumbass. Even when it first happened we complained.

>>53767864
the solution is not to create a qst board. its to create an /asp/ board for all the fucks who let themselves be ruled by asperger's, sorta like r9k, but for tg.

>>53767793
But I guess neither are kingdom builders like Civ games, or tactical turn based wargames like Merc Mech Strike or collaborative world building like evolution games.

>>53767295
Got any proof then, or are you just gonna expect us to take your word for it?

>>53767893
>Even when it first happened we complained.
For a reason, this time. That decision was the beginning of the end, after all, when the critical mass was reached and the whole thing turned to shit.

Setting all else aside, I'm glad that faggot Myrmidon is gone.

>>53767833
>muh agency
Three different but viable and in-character options presented, players come to agree on the preferred option, rolls are called for, degree of success or failure, result is written up and new context is provided, three more different but viable and in-character options are presented...

... yeah, I see no railroad there. I see structure, yes, and a potential for railroading if done with that intent. But guess how DMing usually works?

>>53767576
>Oh wait you quest autists sabotaged the archive whoops.

You mean how Lord Licorice made a thread on /tg/ declaring that he could tell an antiquestfag was downvoting every quest in the suptg archive because all the downvotes were coming from the same college IP, so he manually raised all the votes for the affected quest threads by +20 and then locked their minimum vote counts at the new levels?

Because that is actually a thing that happened.

>>53767989
That's nice dear.

Maybe you should go compare those quests to the interesting ones. See the difference.

>>53767445
Generals provide resources for new people. Ideally I would want all resources and pdf links onto one large sticky thread so we won't need generals, but I understand that it's beyond the possible scope.

>>53767387
Mahou Shonen Butler Quest (Yes that is a real think no hyperbole there) went on for like 300 threads here.

>>53768020
And it was proved to be a false flag because questfags didn't want qst.

Convenient that you left that part out.

>>53767982
>Myrmidon
Who's that?

>>53768037
>And it was proved to be a false flag because questfags didn't want qst.

This was long before /qst/ was announced, anon. You can't expect anyone to take your post content seriously if you don't make the minimum effort to make your post believable.

>>53766629
You're fucking stupid and your ideas suck.
Your parents probably hate you and you'll never feel true love.

>>53768055
Email and ask him about it faggot.

>>53768065
Yes, and?

>>53768045
A complete idiot, some faggot that frequented /civg/ before /qst/ happened. Widely known for being an unlikeable hipster who wanted to do quests based on poetry and pure pretension. Also known simply as 'Myrm'.

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Daily reminder that THIS was the mastermind behind /qst/.

Anywa the real point being this entire thread was made by meta posting salty questfags to whine and dine.

Kill yourselves.

>>53768034
And I, among others, am legitimately sorry about that. But that was an exception, and unless you can demonstrate that the same IPs who were participating in that stupidity were also rampantly shitposting it seems more likely that they mostly stuck to those threads.

And if you can't see that painting all quests with a brush that's even been in the same room as that sad piece of shit is kind of unfair, I'm not sure that we can have a discussion from here.

>>53768132
i.e. initially /qst/ was going to restrict image posting to OP only.

Anyway this entire thread was made by meta posting salty questfags to whine and dine.

Kill yourselves.

>>53768082
You should do the world and yourself a favor and kill yourself. Take some of these polfags with you too.

>>53768154
I've got half a mind to start going to /qst/ so I can enjoy this split from all angles

>>53768154
Ladies first

>>53768177
Oops double post. I hate mobile.

But the point stands. Questfags are salt cancer.

>>53768180
But my ideas suck, why don't you demonstrate the suicide method first?

>>53768123
Oh, I see

Nothing is worse than "epic /tg/ screenshot threads haha how novel!" threads. Fucking christ. Every person who has made or participated in one of those threads deserves nothing but punitive rape.

>>53768199
>phoneposting
>telling others they are cancer

Hypocrisy incarnate.

Kill yourself.

>>53768248
At least there's only 1 or 2 up at a time maximum. Not 10% of the board.

>>53768248
Nah, the Eternal Filename threads are worse.

>>53768209
Tbhfam your idea was retarded.

>>53768257
>salt elemental tries to communicate.

>>53768184
The general sentiment over there seems to be "well fuck you too".

Seriously. At this point the antiquestfags have tasted victory, so even if the moderator in question wasn't totally intransigent moving back to /tg/ would be more aggravation than it's worth.

So let 'em have it. They'll just find something else to be miserable about.

>>53762451
I just want anyone who is still here to know that quests weren't the things doing that. There are threads at this very moment that are at the bottom of page 10 that were last bumped less than 3 hours ago. /tg/ was objectively not sped up by quests, because their removal has not slowed the board down even a tiny bit.

>>53768270
The screenshot and filename threads are literally the calais jungle threads for redditors.
They act as the entry point for so much cancer.

>>53768067
>Email and ask him about it faggot.
I can go on suptg later today and ask him directly since we're friends, but I have the feeling that no matter what he says, you're going to keep insisting that questfags have the power to alter server records.

When we've stopped discussing games, and have split so many times that the post count approaches the alternative chans that I've not bothered to check if they exist any more, like 8-chan.

If we get to that point, I'm sure we'll get shut down to save bandwidth, anyway.

Generals are good. They expand the portfolio. It doesn't have to be "/tg/ is /40k/" anymore. The cliquish atmosphere has to go, though it's not near as bad as other boards...

>>53767372
>a question is answered with nothing but foaming rage
Dude you're making yourself look like a fool
Are you false flagging?

>>53768303
Maybe it's because now we have threads like this one to make up for it.

>>53768279
Tell me anything that was worth stewing about beyond 3 full threads.

>>53768332
just that they're autistic enough to spam sabotage themselves.

Have fun.

>>53768354
This is merely one metathread, which have always been common. One thread can only push the threads above it down by one. For threads to actually reach the bottom, either every thread below them needs to bump once, and then a new thread made, or a number of new threads need to be made equal to the distance from the bottom. And since most of the threads down there have similar bump times, it's the latter case.
Right now,even the bottom of page 9 is rolling around the 2 hour since last bumped mark.

>>53768341
Salty questfags literally repeat the same arguments despite being btfo'd and removed from the board.

There's really nothing more to say beyond neck yourselves.

>>53768065
/tg/ in a nutshell

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Bottom line - posters are apathetic and would rather spend more time throwing blame over who killed /tg/ instead of actually talking about traditional games. Kids take the bait every single fucking time which only makes baitposters fish harder. You wanna fix /tg/? Start producing content. Bump good threads, report and ignore bad ones. Report and don't reply to obvious shitposters trying to derail good threads. And for the love of god, shut the fuck up about quests. It's been years now, both sides need to get the fuck over it. /tg/ is the community, and until you all act better, it won't get better.

>>53767445
It's really simple.
/tg/ is a discussion board, not a play-by-post board.

>>53768448
Quest autists are literally the only people who say tg is dying. This board moves at light speed compared to a few years back.

>>53768448
Contents are off topic now.

Everything is reddit,cuck, jew, nigger

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>>53768411
What arguments are those, anyway? "I wish we had quests"? I've not seen a single one like that.

I've seen plenty of good discussion in this thread, in fact, regarding mostly the underlying causes and impact of quests and their removal.

Meanwhile, antiquestfags like you go "WEEEE SALTY QUESTFAGS!" like farting into the air, while no one gives a shit.

You contribute literally nothing to the board save for the incessant pointless whining that slowly conspires to bring the entirety of /tg/ down to even darker depths of shite. I hope you will find fulfillment in your life that would lead to happiness somewhere far away from the board.

>>53768448
There are too many people who only complain about things they don't like and want to be spoonfed.

>>53768482
Don't even give me that shit when we can't even have alt-history threads anyone without redditors screaming about their /pol/ boogeyman.

>>53768491
>projecting assumptions
Lmao I've literally made oc RPGs on this board.

Sup son.

>>53768491
The problem with quests was not the quests itself, even if they were testing the limits of "No roleplaying on this board".
The problem with quests is that they bumped all the real /tg/ content off of the first five pages because everyone's posting over each-other to get the QM to do their thing. Had quests been nega-stickied so that they always remained on page 10, it wouldn't have been a problem.

>>53768776
More like page 2 or 3. 10 would just make more problems.

>>53768807
Hoesntly thes a lot that could have been done and shit was a bit hamfisted. Problem being that when shit finally got changed it was already mostly to late to salvage the situation.

Fuck it I'm not bothering to fix these fucking typos you guy know what I'm saying anyway.

>>53768536
This, some guy tried to do some near future world building and every person discussing the prompt was told to go back to /pol/.
>>53768776
And this I could never understand. Why not use catalog, why not filter?

And how could quests bump off halve the board when even on the day the mod opened the discussion thread there were a total of 5 quests on the entire fucking board?

>https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/46945911/#46946731

>>53768910
Questfags didn't always label their shit as quests which also pissed off tons of people.

>>53768902
No, the problem was that when shit got changed, it was 2 years after the actual problem had subsided and the only people with a "problem" were assholes with a grudge. Quests peaked literally years ago and couldn't have filled up a page at any given time if they had tried. If they had made /qst/ in 2013 when there really were upwards of 30 of them at any given time, it might have been appropriate. Making it when there was less than 8 at any given moment, including ones that are finished or autosaging and just waiting to fall off the board, was just dumb. The mod also had retarded rules in place that proved he had no idea what he was doing, and the technical bugs didn't help.

>>53768973
There was one guy who didn't label his shit, and he was not popular and got called out for it by everyone, including other people who run quests. And even he could have been filtered by tripcode.

>>53768987
Yea but as a salty questfags cancer patient your opinion is literally worth dirt.

>>53769029
Until I complain for literally 8 years in a row, whatever I'm doing can't be called salt in comparison to the anti-questfags.

>>53768458
>/tg/ is a discussion board, not a play-by-post board

>Board games, card games, etc. go here!

>>53769029
>he says, while using the word salty unironically
Anon, as your internet doctor, I have some bad news about your prognosis.