Infinity General - Ronard McDonard Edition

That middle scheme is really bright.

>>53755744
Ba ba ba ba baaaaa

You shall proclaim your true and unfailing love of it, citizen.

>>53755924
>Ba Da Ba Ba Baaa
Fix'd.

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>>53755744
They dress like clowns because their faction is a joke.

>>53756964
Bare midrift is exactly as much armor as bulky Morat Battle-Carapace. Thanks, PanO!

>>53755744
Wish we had Bao's with Chain Rifles.

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>30 points
>Specialist
>V:Dogged
>Viral Rifle
>ADL
>Heavy Pistol
>Holoprojector L2
>X Visor

Please tell me this guy is permanent

>>53757788
I think that profile is permanent, but ISS only.

>>53755744
>Ronin McDonin

>>53756964
Smug anime Fusilier girl?

>>53757581

Better if they had *something* B4 instead/as well. There's hardly much reason to pick them over the Rui Shi or Hsien haris team.

>>53757788

All regular bounty hunter profiles are now permanent and available to IS only.

>>53758863
Except it says Wotan.

>>53759498

Latest versions should mention it's permanent. Also, Bostria specifically noted its not just Wotan only.

>>53759532
Sweet. That will be a noticeable buff for ISS.

>>53759833
They seem to have cut the note that all the bounty hunters count as Regular troops for ISS from Unit Profiles 3.8, apart from one mention of Sforza RBH.

I ordered the starter bundle during the sale, but there's a bunch of pieces missing. Is this normal?

>>53760342

No its not. Check out the missing part stickies on the forums to claim the lost bits.

Keep those little pieces of papers with the codes on them, you would likely need them in the claims.

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patches are for normies

>>53760922
Is that a flag, blanket, or pillow?

>>53761021
a shirt

>>53757563
Pan-O is love.

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Who is the best Joan of Arc, /tg/?

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>>53756964
get out of here fattie

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>>53761902
Not the best source of a bare midriff though.

>>53762055
his code pice should be much bigger.

>>53762471
what piece of code do you mean?

>>53762020
Fate/zero seiba is best joan

>>53762055
DAT ASS

>>53760922
>float like a bumblebee
>sting like a butterfly

So pano guy here. Had my first few games in. Game is awesome. I have a few tactical questions though. First how do I stop haqqislam assasins killing my small dudes, and second how does pano stop people from raping them with hackers and smoke?

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I occasionally post my painted models here and am currently waiting the much anticipated Hassassin Ayyar and was thinking about a color scheme that's in line of what I already have painted. 1 and 2 is closer to the Fasid, Ghulams, and some other units I've got already painted while 3 and 4 is closer to what I've got painted for my Fiday and Janissaries. Which is your favorite, or the one you think would look best or better with some alterations?

>>53765764
>how do I stop haqqislam assasins killing my small dudes
Black Friar.

>how does pano stop people from raping them with hackers and smoke
Black Friar and ALIVE.

>>53765764
>First how do I stop Haqqislam Assassins killing my small dudes?
I'm assuming you're talking about Fidays. Well, if you're not going second out of luck you discover them (which is a bit order inefficient but often necessary) and shoot them (you've got biometric visors from Black Friars which can ignore the negative MODs to discovering, and link teams with MOD bonuses to discovering can also do the trick. Usually you're not dealing with one or two of these guys unless they're doing a Gimmick list as they're kind of expensive, but two with the character Saladin who has Strategos can be quite the strike.

Otherwise, if going second your best bet is to have some mine layers laying mines, if they don't mind their fidays dying at their one action then at least it helps slow them down, if they choos to dodge it removes surprise shot/attack bonuses, otherwise covering most of your flanks with overlapping corner guards, and you'll want some people with high physique and close combat skills to help defend squishies by existing. Black Friar's good too, helps discover to make them lose their surprise against others.

How does pano stop people from raping them with hackers and smoke?

You've got a few sources of defensive hacking (firewalls and such) through regular hacking devices, EVO, and white hacking devices (first being generally more useful and easier to get with a Fusilier) and your own hackers who can stop them through hacking (or shooting). Father Knight's pretty boss with BTS 9 for defending himself. Also, you can just reset, mate.

You've got enough sources of MSV2 and 3 to not worry too much about smoke as you could see through it (plus if you choose to go into a sectorial later, link teams get plenty of sources of Sixth Sense Level 2 to help mitigate its damage against your small dudes).

>>53765764
As >>53766626 said, Black Friar. Impersonation is a fucking pain in the ass, but you at least have a Biometric Visor attached to a solid MSV L2 troop. Which also helps to negate Smoke. As far as hacking goes, you can use ALIVE or you can just each sectorial's hackers as most have some pretty solid options. Hexas seem like a solid pick for NCA, and maybe Locusts? Naga are actually solid for ASA or even just an AHD from Sikh or Bagh Mari since you don't have as much of a need to worry about people fucking up HI since you'll have negligible amounts of it. For MO, I guess you are sorta fucked as far as access to Fairy Dust goes, which does seem sort of unfortunate. I guess Spec Sergeants or Mulebots?

The fuck do I know about hacking, though.

>>53766966
Played against a visiting Haqq player a while back that truly indulges himself in the shitlordery of Haqq. Two Fidays, Al-Djabel for a third Impersonator, Infiltrating Yasbir, a Lasiq Sniper, and a core link of Muyibs. It's an enjoyably cancerous list. And made me quite happy our local cheating Haqq player just does QK.

>>53767109
Saladin makes it even more fun.

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Has anyone noticed how bugged out the RPG Char gen is?

I can barely finish it. Also, fuck them for making me spend a point in choosing a faction and then having a career event that changes my faction to another random one. I m e a n w t f.

>>53767593
I don't think it's been updated since it was first put out, and probably won't until the game is actually out.

>random event
Well, you see, you have two options:
1. You spend another point to roll again
2. You use the character creation method that lets you buy your way through charge at the cost of not having any points to buy more Infinity points or extra skills or things at the end.

Remember, what you bought was just the character's BIRTH faction, not necessarily their current one.

>>53767899
>charge
Chargen

>>53767899
>I don't think it's been updated since it was first put out, and probably won't until the game is actually out.
It's been updated a few times since then. I was always trying to make a Daktari and I remember the Exotic Cosmetic Surgery event leading to a TODO page. However they changed so that you can no longer choose a career event with Life Points, which threw a wrench into my plans.
Also there are some inconsistencies with the Core Book and the chargen tool, e.g. in the book you're supposed to spend one point for childhood home and education, while the app asks for two.

>>53767109
The only cancerous thing there is three Fidays and honestly I feel like three Fidays is at least 1 too many, you don't need 3.

Fucking love the Muyib link though, so maybe I am the cancer.

>>53768476
Muyibs to really rank up there in terms of "core link teams most annoying to face" up there with Riot Grrls and IMO Rodoks.

>>53768659
I really like how they work with universal no. 2. They're not individually hard to put down but the team as a whole is durable, it's a nice touch. They have such a great toolkit for any kind of scenario too.

>>53768127
>they changed so that you can no longer choose a career event with Life Points
That sounds like a bug, I'm pretty sure you're meant to be able to do that.

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Trashcans!

>>53768964
Little shit like this is what gives terrain character, it's adorable

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>>53768964

>>53768964
Dang it man, stop making amazingly beautiful models and terrain.

Where did you get or how did you make the cans?

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>>53769080
Thanks anon. I posted a detailed tutorial with pictures on my terrain thread in the official forums.

http://infinitytheforums.com/forum/topic/31249-neo-shanghai-suzhoujie-slum-trashcans-scatter-terrain-tutorial/?page=4

>>53758297
Kekd

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Terrainfag here again. Some Holo Billboards came out recently. Check em out, they look great.

https://www.battlekiwi.com/product/holo-billboard-bench-set/

I already had the idea for making these things myself. Anyone have an idea if this kind of acrylic can be bought AND lasered for mortal prices somewhere?

>>53768964
Are you going to put all your Yu-jing models in them?

>>53755744
So now that it's been confirmed that for next month a box with the Outrage models will come out, do you think you'll get rules for dead characters.

Actually, come to think of it, are there dead characters you can currently field I might have missed? Like Tycho from the Blood Angels?

>>53769733
Does a highway pass that sign?

>>53770033
Do I have to keep making armor rolls now until I block this burn?

>>53770204
Just take a sip in all the Pan O tears. Goodness knows there is an ocean of it.

>>53766449
2 looks great

>>53757788
>Specialist
Nope

The "Strikezone Wotan" footnote on them suggests they aren't permanent.

>>53770826
They are permanent. Said so in the announcement.

>>53770995
Can you show me that?

I definitely never saw anything confirming they were permanent. I saw people leaping to conclusions based on other wording though.

>>53766449
2 seems the best to me.

>>53766449
These all seem very edgy my friend.

>>53771611
>has assassin in the name
>expects it not to be edgy
>implying edgy is bad

>>53766449
my vote is for 2, maybe 3 if it had the striped cloak too.

>>53762020
suit sabre model I would buy a highly useless book it was attached to

>>53766449
the one that's not gray looks best

>>53766449
My vote's for 4, if you swap the cloak to the same green as the rest of them. Ideally, keeping the striping, too. But I tend to prefer more subdued and plain schemes, so the monotone armor plating has my vote.

>>53770543
>>53771374
>>53771611
>>53772976
>>53773234
All these answers are duly noted.
>>53773185
I'm not sure which you mean, which is why I made sure to number them. I think you mean
4 which has all white armor but I'm not too sure.

Thank you all for the replies. Perhaps I should waste some money on two more models and do three schemes. Haha.

>>53768993
>And this is where we direct the PanO players

>>53766626
>>53766966
>>53766981
thanks. Some follow up questions. First one what is an evo, couldn't find a unit or gear named like that.

Second is about the black fraiers, if I take them do they limit the number of msv units I can take , because I like my Aquila guard a lot. would runing 2 of the fusiliers as hackers help .

And the third is about those fidye assasins. When they pop up behind you to stab you can you turn? Because I got realy paranoid last game and deployed all my dudes in 2 man teams watching each others backs, at the time I though it was a great idea. Now I know those fidye also have boarding shotguns.

>>53775834
ah and the alive thing, it doesn't have models yet right ?

>>53775834
Evo Hacking Device is on your baggage remote profile.

no, SWC an points are your limit.

>>53770477
>PanO
>tears
>not Yu Jing
Do you even lore?

>>53775907
No. I believe the reason is access to them will be limited to single faction and CB wants to avoid butthurt.

A few threads ago (okay, a while ago), someone was talking about Haqqislam not being dominant on Earth itself (with liberal/moderate/fundamentalist Muslim countries still controlling Mecca), as well as the fact that half of America is covered in Mad Max/Brotherhood of Steel/Necromunda scavenger types and the fact there's some non-O12 countries (iirc Russia as a whole isn't integrated with PanO, and the Russians on Ariadna believe they were abandoned).

How would fluff things like "Haqqislam getting into conflict with Islamist/Salafist/Qutbist countries who are pissed they're liberal represented by Haqq vs Haqq units on board" or "PanO deals with planetside nationalist American militia threats pissed PanO's the new power" work out? Or mods to miniatures?

>>53776249
Haqqislam conflict would be pretty viable. One of the main reasons they went to space was their ideological differences with puritan factions.

Don't know about the other one. I don't remember how USA proper citizens, those that remain, live, and they're had plenty of time to get used to the new balance of power. Just use USAdriana instead, that's pretty nuch what it is for.

>>53776203
what is the chance they will go to pano ? don't want to buy proxy models, am not going to use. >>53776167
thx

>>53775834
>First one what is an evo, couldn't find a unit or gear named like that.
The only EVO hacker in PanO is the Mulebot. It's a hacker with extra support programs that are very good.
Look at the hacking helper in the OP, it's a useful collection of all hacking devices and their programs.

>Second is about the black fraiers, if I take them do they limit the number of msv units I can take
There is no limit on the number of MSV units you can take in a list.

>would runing 2 of the fusiliers as hackers help
Fusilier hackers exist mostly as a way to get cheap supportware, they're not good at much else. Take one and make it use the fairy dust program, that will make all your heavy infantry harder to hack. Additional ones can make your remotes better at fighting, but otherwise there's no need.

>When they pop up behind you to stab you can you turn?
If it attacks you, yes.
You can use the change facing skill (basically a dodge at PH-3 and instead of moving on success you turn around) against an enemy who takes an action within 8", even if they're outside your line of fire.
However the Fiday has stealth, which means it can use short movement skills (move and dodge) without allowing a change facing. But if it attacks or does any other kind of order then you can change facing against it.

>>53775907
Nope. And they're only a temporary thing so I wouldn't rely too much on ALIVE.

>>53776249

Adriana would work well for nationalists/militia. Wilderness experience but not the best marksmen and without the real tech support of other factions.

The former, I'd go with a less techie Haq LI list. Less medics, more snipers and line troops.

>>53776411
It's up to the air. Supposedly the winner of Interplanetary tournament gets to decide. Personally I too would like OanO, because they would still add to the faction while not being too bad fit fluffwise, unlike, say Tohaa or Ariadna.

>>53776458

I must admit, I'd love to see the fluff reason for each faction to get them. Especially if it's Tohaa, ALEPH or CA as that would take some justification.

>>53776437
>There is no limit on the number of MSV units you can take in a list.
that is odd I was told that you can't have more then 2 msv1, or 1 msv 2 and if you take an msv3 you can't take TO and hackers. I will have to read the rules more careful next time.

about the mule bots. People were saying here that using proxy models is legal. Do you think I could use haqqislam mule bots, I don't like how the pano look like?

>>53776249
>>53776364

>haqqislam being 'liberal'
>doing the exact same things as the 'puritans'

I mean sure they have good PR, but once you scratch the surface, they ain't much different from the oil emirates.

>>53776492
That must be a houserule in your scene (which sounds pretty cancerous).

>>53776492
MSV isn't even that strong.
Mimetism/ODD is stronger, because it affects more opponents.

Your local houserule is dumb if it's gimping loadouts like that for such a core item.

>>53776582
>>53776603
well we were playing 200pts, and not the normal 400pts, so the rules can be different. I was just told it is unfun for some factions, if you use a lot of msv units, because then they can not do anything.

>>53776634
300 points is regular. And you just play with actual retarded shitflingers. What third-world country do you live in? Everything you say is just mindnumbingly nuts.

>>53776492

That sounds pretty terrible a houserule for ALEPH.

I mean, that rule makes my favourite model literally unable to be played. Considering the Asura is a hacker with MSV3. That and my love of Agema Marksmen and Deva Functionaries.

I bet Adriana did this.

>>53776634
Are you the guy that's playing with a shady bunch of locals who all split tourney prizes with each other? Do they all run camo heavy lists?

>>53771082
Carlos confirmed it in Facebook, one source that comes to my mind.

>>53776634
you are being horribly taken advantage of. Do not play with the people who have told you these things. Read the rulebook.

>>53776708
I am danish, wouldn't call my country a 3ed world one.

>>53776711
That would in deed be bad. Ariadna is not very popular from what I have seen here. Maybe 2-3 people have an army for it. Most people play haqqislam and nomads. But again I played 8 games, so it is not like I know everyone. It is just that the last local tournament had 15 people and 7 were playing haqqislam of some sort.

>>53776965
not that I know about anything like that. But it is true that the same people are winning all the tournaments no matter what game is played. But I don't think it is shady they just have more money and the prize stuff those let them spend less at the store.

>>53776993
That's pretty weird. Haqq has a fair bit of camo but not massive amounts. Ariadna shitbabies getting mad about it I can understand, but not Haqq ones. Maybe someone got tired of their smoke units getting countered.

If you can't get the shit rule changed then unfortunately that Aquila Guard is unfortunately going to be a liability. TO camo and hacking are important things for PanO, it's not worth losing them.

>>53777048
well I did play against 3 people out of like 18+ that play infinity at the store, first people I played against too. Can't really judge what the whole community is like, I know it is growing. I will ask themabout the "house rules" next time I see them. I'm just scared ot be called a cheater, because at my store if 3 people say you cheat you can't no longer play.

>>53777096
What a fucking joke of a store.

>>53777121
they had problems with people playing MtG, and I mean serious problems with police coming etc. Since then the rules were put in place. For me that is legendary stuff, because it happened in the 90s.

>>53777096
Just ask if it's a houserule or not.

>>53777096
Funny, because they impose cheating with those house rules.
Wide access to MSV is PanO speciality, so by limiting them they make your faction unfun. Nisses + Black Friar is your best way to stop Fidays and it's still not 100% bullet proof.
Also invest in Bulleteers.

>>53777220
would I require to run separate hacker for each kind of bot? one for the mule and one for the bullter ?

>>53777238
Nope. You just need one hacker or TAG and then you can run as many bots as you like.

Also auxbots and servant bots don't require a hacker to run.

>>53777272
Cool. I think my next buy is going to be two bot boxs then.

>>53777272
When did they let TAG run bots?

>>53777282
Since forever I think. Certainly since N2.

>>53777282

Ages. Does make me wonder if we'll ever see a Hacker TAG.

>>53777238
No, it's just 1 hacker to take bots in general.

>>53776492
I really want to make a "What houserules is your LGS using" thread in the official forums, so I can redflag all those bullshit metas and never visit them.

>>53777336
You do that.

>>53770033
Can't argue with those digits.

>>53776492
By those crazy rules, Bagh-Mari linkteams are impossible.

>angry SAA noises

>>53777336
It would be worth seeing, even for the other games.

>>53777282
I guess that rule was created for Ariadna sectors.

>>53777336
I'm still half convinced it's one person making up all of that shit.

Is there a general rule of thumb to beat Ariadna? It feels like they can just have MAXIMUM CHEERLEADER in the back and pump out a crazy amount of orders into their badasses to rek ur butt

>>53755744
that uniform drawing always makes me think of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK8mJJJvaes

>>53776249
There's always the cheap(?) way of doing it: Stat up said nationalist insurgents in the RPG, run them through the converter to get wargame stats. That just gets you profiles, though.

>>53778097
Against order spam you play defensively, and use your active turn to kill their big nasty units and infiltrators. Then set up your defensive grid and dare them to break it with their shitty cheerleaders. MSV2 snipers are extra valuable.

What faction you playing?

So I asked if the msv limit things are a house rules. and they aren't it is just those 3 people that I played against, do not like playing armies with msv units and hackers. the only house rule that goes for all people is that you can't have more then 3 battle groups, and if one dice from a group falls on the ground, all have to be re-rolled.

>>53778240

Haqqislam

I'm using the group that comes w/ Red Veil and have 2 Kum Bikers.

>>53778423
Ah, so it's just a small group of scrubs. Those rules seem fine. The only time you'll see more than 2 combat groups is in gimmick lists that just jam in as many units as possible.

Why do smoke grenades and such have those range modifiers like other weapons? Can you miss with them? Are there scatter rules for them?

>>53778568
Yep, smoke grenades follow the rules for shooting, except you don't need to target an enemy with them.

No scatter rules this edition. CB fucked it up twice before and apparently decided to just give up. If template weapons miss they just disappear into the void.

>>53778618

I completely respect their decision to do so.

However this does mean that frag grenades and the such hit with pinpoint accuracy? Do you roll BS for the sake of if they roll to Dodge?

>>53778618
The scatter clock's used for something, isn't it? They still issue it, complete with numbers, in Icestorm.

>>53778718

Tiger Soldier uses it for their drop. Weapons don't scatter but deep strikes still can.

>>53778637
>However this does mean that frag grenades and the such hit with pinpoint accuracy?
Yep, but it's a little more complicated. When you use grenades normally they function just like normal guns, except hand thrown grenades use PH to hit instead of BS.
However, you can also use the speculative fire skill to hit targets you can't see. Speculative shots don't need to be centered on an enemy unit, but they do need to catch an enemy unit somewhere in the AoE. There's a -6 penalty to BS/PH when making the attack, but you may be able to hit more units and don't need to deal with other shit like mimetism or cover. You can even hit camo markers and force them to reveal or die if there's another valid target also under the template.

Everyone effected by a template weapon can try to dodge it, but if they can't see you then they get a -3 to their dodge roll.

>>53778718
Airborne deployment can scatter.

>>53778802
Hold up, just realized I made a big assumption.

So if you throw a grenade, any grenade, you still roll to hit and all that stuff. However, if you fail the roll, the grenade disappears. Even when you throw a smoke grenade at the ground, right?

>>53778886
Yes.

>>53778886
Aye

>>53776203
I believe the reason the Alive group doesn't have models yet is that they plan to kill some of them off.

If you could add one new faction to Infinity, what would you make?

>>53776458
How would Ariadna be a bad fit for ALIVE?

The only factions that really make sense for them to join would be Nomads, Ariadna, or possibly Aleph. Their whole deal is that they are basically pissed at the Human Sphere (mainly Pano and Yu Jing) for being a bunch of backstabbing dickweaseles who, even when faced with the impending invasion of a huge malevolent alien empire, are only using its presence to obfuscate their own shady dealings and illegal attacks.

ALIVE are basically dedicated to exposing Pano and Yu Jing and the rest of the human sphere as liars more concerened with money and temporary power than the fate of all humanity. Human Sphere powers conduct illegal attacks and raids and then blame on Combined, ALIVE is exposing them.

Obviously makes the -most- sense in terms of setting for them to wind up with Nomads, but they would fit in well with Ariadna as exiles working on their wiki leaks docs safe from Human Sphere hands and helping the underdogs, or even with Aleph as fulfillin protectors of humanity thing.

>>53779492
They could be sepositored to join combined army too. IMO they make the best fit for them too. We need cheap hackers to fill out the points sometimes.

>>53779407
I'd personally just prefer to get sets of Sectorial rules and unit reworks. Invincible Army (and/or White Banner), Ramah Task Force, Tunguska, Kazaks, Triumvirate, Varuna, etc.

Otherwise, to answer more in the spirit of things

Germans in some way. Like Teutonic knights or Uberfallkommando are just one unit, I'd like more. I'd want to practice my subpar Deutsch in bantz to my opponents.


Actually otherwise, some new alien race. It can be at its core an equivalent to Space Dwarves, with S1 sizes and somewhere between the original concept for Tohaa and Squats or Demiurg from 40k. But additionally they can have non-humanoid allies. Stuff that look like spiders, scorpions, starfish, those Heptapods from Arrival, Jellyfish, tentacle monsters, etc.

>>53779407
O-12

>>53779561
how about no teutons ever, they had their spot in history lost, and that should be the end of them, and preferably of all germans. I am with you on a pan slavic sectorial though, would be awesome.

>>53778618
There really should be scatter rules.

>>53779603
Scatter doesn't work well on Infinity maps. The game makes it too easy for smoke to save your ass with scatter.
Even with current rules, smoke is already strong. Scatter would push the favor even more towards units with access to it.

>>53779595
I wonder (((who))) could be behind this post
It's probably an actual kraut, the self-hating fucks.

>>53779603
I'd agree with you, but I remember what that shit was like in N2. I think CB made the smartest move by just cutting their losses and not trying again.

>>53779492
I really wouldn't want them for Ariadna because of purely crunch reasons. Ariadna getting the incredible hacking tag team of Cypher and Switch shits all over the faction's balance. I hope they end up in Nomads because at least there they won't do any harm. Switch will remain annoying, but he won't throw a big spanner in the works like he would in Ariadna or Tohaa.

Question. I have a holoprojector L2 trooper, using L1 of his device in the active turn to mimik a single different unit. Then follows the reactive turn. At the beginning of that reactive turn, can I just decide to switch to L2, and have 2 holoechos appear?

It's in my interest to have no holoechos whatsoever in the active turn, because at that point it would give away the presence of a holo-trooper

>>53780410
Been thinking about how to answer this for a while after re-reading the rules. Frankly the transition didn't occur to me as a possibility.

I would think that, yes, if you have no LoF to any enemy at the start of the enemy's tactical phase during your reactive turn you can project the two echoes, but doing the switch between holoprojection state to holo echoes reveals the private information of what the profile holoprojecting is before it creates its two echoes as it is an action that isn't movement. This may or may not affect your judgement on the situation.

>>53778426
Okay, Haqq can be nearly as spammy as Ariadna. When my Haqq friend plays a Maghariba, he never has anything less than 16 orders.
What Haqq can do and Ariadna cannot is see through smoke and field good remotes. Djanbazan + Kum (or Ghazi) and double Shihab is your friend. With Naffatun you can cover corners very well and with Tuareg you can hide a guy upfield that will be a pain in the ass to remove (just keep him away from Chasseurs). Kum can be good at killing a bunch of clumped up cheerleaders. Aforementioned Djanbazan with Smoke can be good at removing snipers.
Fiday is probably not worth it unless you can very well identify the Lt.

>>53779814
They are just so damn optimized. Really useful in MO and Joan negates their only downside, but that is thematically fairly antithetical to their lore.

They dont feel out of place in nomads but their usefulness is a little redundant. Bit an kiss is fun and purely for support or setting up combos for a dangerous hacker, also a very active turn unit being a specialist and roaming repeater. Switch has to compete with khd interventors who are only 6 points more, but could help disguise a zero as a bandit with the irregular order i guess, frenzy can help add another order to your pool for more efficient suprise hacking/cybermasking. Cypher has solid stats and works really well as another potent backfield reactive turn hacker, but irregular order screws with that for cheerleader purposes. Otherwise a budget ahd custodier is pretty cool.

Ill be sad to see bit/kiss go, really reinforces nomad board control and freed up room for aggressive supportware.

>>53776177
Lore wise yes, but try taking a visit to the Pan O forums. Lots of hyperbole and moaning going on.

>>53782620
PanO mentality seems to be "not Swiss Guard = Unplayable Shit". And then they complain that their army is weak or limited, while refusing to consider anything that is not a staple every PanO player fields.

>>53782721
I play SAA and find that attitude ridiculous.
PanO is fine, and has strong sectorial armies, NCA is one of the strongest sectors in the entire game ffs.

>>53782620
>Pan O forums. Lots of hyperbole and moaning going on.
I remember when that used to be Yu Jing. They had a hundred or so more posts than PanO's forum because of all the whining. Now that HSN3 kind of "fixed" ISS and some other weak options PanO has more posts than Yu Jing.

>>53779561

I like to see them do more Sectorials that go cross-faction. Like how some of them get ALEPH units. Especially seeing them have a fluff reason why two factions (Like say, Ariadna/ALEPH) have an overlapping sectorial.

...actually, an Ariadna/ALEPH sectorial would be pretty cool.

AVA: Total 112s, Dozers, Loup-Garou, Caledonian Volunteers, Zouaves, Sophotechs, Dactyls, Deva Functionaries, Thamyris, Warcors.

Rapid response emergency services during the Paradiso campaign. Bringing more doctors and engineers than god.

>>53783454
Don't other factions have better rapid response forces than Ariadna, though? Wouldn't such a sectorial make more sense as Aleph/NOMADs (for tomcats) or Aleph/Haqq (for all the doctors, forever)?

>>53783520

Yeah but I caught sight of the 112 on my chest of drawers when I was trying to think of a sectorial for two factions who really don't overlap normally so that's what came to mind.

But yeah, there are a few options for it depending on the nature of it. Ariadna and Nomads both have dedicated emergency services in models (Though few that look the part as much as the 112).

You could do Nomads/Ariadna for a more traditional paring, Nomads/ALEPH for angry angry cybersex while they save your ass or ALEPH/Haqq. Though I can't recall any dedicated rescue services in Haqq due to just how much stuff gets 'And it's also got a doctor option' taking away needs for dedicated doctors.

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I need help. I don't remember buying this mini and I have no idea who he is or what faction. Can someone identify it?

>>53783454
>Ariadna/ALEPH
Uh

There's a reason PanO and Yu Jing are the ALEPH cross-mix factions m8. Haqq, the Nomads and Ariadna do not get on with ALEPH.

>>53783738

That was the point, yes.

>>53783735
Operation Red Veil's Pre-Order Exclusive Bonus Yuan Yuan with Boarding shotgun. Comes in the two player starter box so you don't have to use a lame marker and get something cool for ordering it early.

>>53777336
Please do, it might be kinda interesting. Depending on the factions you have in your local meta I think there are some potentially fun ones.

Two combat groups max or one combat group max are ones I could see being most common. Maximum of one type of each special weapon could be another (so you can have max 1 HMG, max 1 Sniper, but could have a MULTI HMG or MULTI Sniper etc). You could even extend that to Hacking Devices or particular special rules.

All this suits a Vanilla meta better but I think it could make for some interesting games. It helps that there are really no auto-picks in Infinity.

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>>53783767
>>53783735
Small addendum. He's a Mercenary currently available for Qapu Khalki.

>>53783742
So why would they join up in a faction? It makes no sense. The fluff reason would just be shitting on existing fluff.

The Nomads basically replace ALEPH for Haqq and Ariadna vs. PanO and Yu Jing. It'd be nice to see Ariadna or Haqq as the centrepiece rather than the Nomads, sure, but I wouldn't want ALEPH crossover.

>>53783812
>>53783767

Thats why I dont remember. Ok thanks.

>>53783738

That's why was why I gave it a shot. I said it would be interesting to see more cross-faction sectorials and that's part of it. Seeing the areas where normally disagreeing factions can get along, as these are big factions not just single people.

And it's not like ALEPH/Nomads hasn't happened in fluff and they are the two big ones that hate each other. As much as they dislike each other, they dislike humanity dying more.

>>53783851
Sounds like you want an O-12 faction like you can find in an RPG.

>>53783884

Not really. More cross-faction sectorials in general (They don't have to be normally hostile factions).

One of the things I like about Infinity though is that while the factions are opposed to each other it's not 40k's 'We won't ever work together' utter fanaticism. Exploring that fluffwise and with sectorials is fun.

>>53779814
>Personally I too would like OanO, because they would still add to the faction while not being too bad fit fluffwise, unlike, say Tohaa or Ariadna.
>too bad fit fluffwise, unlike, say Tohaa or Ariadna.

You're not the same anon, are you? Otherwise I am highly confused, because that guy specifically was citing fluff as they reason they ough to go to Pano and ought not to go to Ariadna or Tohaa.

I don't think ALIVE are really gamebreaking or balance breaking, but I won't act like an authority on the game. As an Ariadna player I've yet to ever field ALIVE and have never felt compelled to. I wouldn't mind having the options there to play with, but I've never really felt like I wanted them in a list. Except maybe in that one mission with all the repeaters.

No HI for them to protect, no (useful) remotes for them to buff (and Wardriver can do that already). The existing guns and stuff we have like E/Maulers do a decent job at taking care of HI and TAGs. Enemy hackers are already deadweight against our army most of the time anyway as they will get little to no use from their Assault and Killing devices.

>>53784048
Personally I already think Ariadna gets a completely OP Killer Hacker compared to everyone else.

>>53784048
>No HI for them to protect
Blackjacks?

>>53784124
???

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TELL ME ABOUT JOAN. WHY DOES SHE WEAR THE MASK?

A lot of loyalty for a hired gun.

>>53786256
So that one one will know that she's a saber clone.

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>>53784435

>>53786527
No, he said hackers. That means Galwegians.

>>53779407
An ewok-level lowtech faction of those fish aliens that PanO fucks with occassionally. Wouldnt be a serious threat faction (probs) but why not since fat yuan became a thing

Friend of mine wants to get into Infinity via the French Ariadna Sectorial. I wanna get him a box and a couple blisters. What do I buy him?

I know they aren't the strongest, but can he do ok?

>>53781423

Thanks for the advice. I think I've been misplaying the Tuareg in the matchup. I've been having her try to hunt the big expensive units but that wound up being a positioning headache with her sniper. I gotta realize it's just as good for her to try and fish for the Grunts.

I hear yah on the Djanbazan but I'll probably only get htem if I can score the old models, I think they look way cooler than the newer ones which feel more "generic sci-fi sniper"

>>53788934
French sectorial is pretty stagnated atm. Starter and chausseurs are pretty essential. Then there is a choice which link team one want to focus. There isn't much choice, but mist have some utility. Too bad Briscards, Moblots and Loups occupy pretty much the same space.

>>53789004
The Djanbazan Shock Marksman Rifle is an enemy of Ariadna.

>>53789010
Maybe I'll get him some Garous and the Starter?

Seems like he'll need a lot of models.

>>53788934
Make sure he is aware how old most of the models are.
112 is still my favorite mini ev n after all those years.

>>53789083
Ariadna in general tends to have high model count due to models being cheap points wise.

>>53789177
Just found out that he's actually planning to use his Imperial guard for most of his shit.

Guess I'll just get him the Garous? Is the Garou with Sniper worthwhile to complete the link?

>>53755744
Is it possible to make I infinity miniatures look good when painted without the use of an air brush? I've only seen a couple done with only regular brushes and they looked kind of bad. I'm worried I'm going to need an air brush to make the armor on my new figures look good

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>>53789444
My shit aint perfect, but I wouldn't go as far as to say it looks bad. Just paint as well as you can and remember that this is a tabletop game not a Golden Demon contest. At 3-4 feet you lose a lot of detail.

>>53789444
>Is it possible to make I infinity miniatures look good when painted without the use of an air brush?
yeah

>>53789444
Yup, just prime greyscale and use lots of washes.

Infinity models are really easy to paint of you use this technique, they basically paint themselves and look great.

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>>53789444
Yeah, two or three of the best painters who regular posts here don't us an airbrush at all and the models come out gorgeous and award deserving.

Otherwise, the usual base coat, wash/shade, base coat color to clean up, and highlights will be more than fine for 98% of players, especially if you have your army fully painted.

The armored details of infinity lend well to regular edge highlighting techniques, no need for airbrushes.

I consider myself an average/middling painter and I don't use an airbrush and usually get a compliment or two on my models. I'll also provide a pic of my models with heavy armor to make you feel better. For some reason it's one of the top results when image searching "Al Fasid" so I guess I do something right.

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>>53789004
>I think they look way cooler than the newer ones which feel more "generic sci-fi sniper"

You mean this?

Because this is their only sniper i know, the newest vox doesn't have any sniper at all

>>53784048
Alive isn't about supportware. Only Kiss can use fairy dust, and she's the least useful to Ariadna. None of them can buff remotes. Cypher exists to head forward and immobilise anyone hackable with carbonite, and then immobilise them harder with his E/M templates while they can't fight back. He can also act as a repeater for Switch, who can hide at the back disguised and kill any button pushing hacker hacker that Cypher finds or alternatively head forward himself if the opponent was foolish enough to put a repeater in the midfield. Get near the repeater, kill off backline support hackers so they can't buff remotes or whatever.

>>53779407
>>53788112
a human edge faction of cutthroats and mercenaries.

>>53791662
isn't that nomads?

>>53789613
i should use crane+guard core fireteam next time i play

>>53792179
Don't leave home without Xi Xuang and a FO CG in that fireteam.

>>53792305
thanx broseph

Can someone write me a vanilla Haq list loosely based on the starter box set? Gonna make a couple of purchases on the weekend. So far its just the starter and a Govad-HMG.

I just want to fully paint a 300 point list I can play into everyone until I get the basic rules down.

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>>53792519
Hi. I just took like a minute to toss together this list using only complete boxes and blisters with staple units that I generally like the look of. You'll generally not want to field the Khawarij Rifle+LSG as the Lt and would likely want the best Lt option in Haqqislam with Saladin, who pairs well with Fidays (a usual favorite unit). Khawarijs in general are kind of a fragile (armor 1) toolbox unit that's not quite suited for being a Lt. but goes decently as a weapons platform to surprise people hiding up in buildings with superjump or B+ Close Combat. Saladin also pairs well with a Hafza (which is also sold as a blister).

Other suggested purchases is the smaller remotes box (with the Total Reaction bot and Rafiq FO/Sensor), Hunzakut (the female blister one that's overall useful when fielded as the forward observer+repeater), Djanbazan box, and Bashi Bazook SMG.

The reason I'm telling you to get the big Ghazi Muttawi'ah box is that they're the second most interesting and useful five point LI in the game, but unlike Kuang Shi they're large self reliant.

>>53789613
>>53789798
>>53789866
Ok thats good news, the promotional images for infinity minis look amazing though and i always wanted to paint things to that quality, im not gonna go into the airbrush world just for that though.
More pictures of brush painted armored minis would be greatly appreciated.

>>53793105
Go to the fist post and openn a few past threads. Lots of people post their stuff on the threads.

>>53792150
I think that's the joke, yes.

>>53793400
kek, then

>>53783795
I do prefer limited combat groups over limited insertion

>>53793732
Limited Insertion is fun if you wanna play a top heavy list for lulz.

>>53793732
Two Combat groups tempts you to do stuff like run 12 models, so that 2 are easy substitute orders. Or have a bunch of extras for warbands.

Real limited insertion makes those costs for the slots at a real premium, and changes the meta. It's fun for that reason alone to eliminate dumb stuff like Mutts or Kuang Shi.

>>53793852
real limited insertion makes a list with Su-Jian, Hac tao, and a Zuyong HMG Automedikit LT as its core a fun possibility.

Cheap FO Guilang and Kanren for button pushers

Minelayer Guilang to fuck with opponents mind.

Rui Shi for MSV2

CG with Smoke launcher as support piece.

Fun times.

Hey fellas I'm thinkin about grabbing one of the starter sets. I don't have any plans to play at a shop or with friends though. I'm mostly just interested in playing by myself and building terrain/painting the models.
Any recommendations? Or is going with a starter not worth it at all? I got a budget of a 100 dollars to work with.

>>53794024
I'd consider one of the two-player starters with that budget. You get the advantage of starter terrain to work from, and you can recruit through demo games without having to convince someone to buy stuff to give it a try.

How does one meme hard in this game?

Fuck me, a lot of reply to.

>>53778097
All it really takes to beat me is to bring several visors. Even just MSV1 will work wonders -- the Vet Kazak is durable, but losing Mimetism hurts -- and my Spetnsaz, Tankhunters, and Scouts all weep. MSV2 just shits on dogs by negating that smoke that usually is required to keep them safe. But if you're talking about playing against the generic kurwa spam faggots, focus on the things they are pumping those orders into and then cull the weak when possible. A single Dog-Warrior's killed four cheerleaders in one Order before; templates makes clumped cheerleaders cry.

>>53778637
Basically. You either hit your target with the grenade how you want to, or you don't. They used to have Scatter, and it worked just fine. If a little silly for Smoke grenades. And yeah, you realized it in >>53778886 In the wonderful world of Infinity, a third of all grenades are duds.

>>53778718
AD, if you're being a fearless badass and not just downgrading yourself to Airborne Infil like a reasonable person.

>>53779407
Antipode Wilds, with weird scaling bonuses based on the number of antipodes in the Combat Group, with additional antipodes giving bonuses to WIP and BS to represent the combined intelligence of antipode packs.

>>53783520
Rapid response is literally the single key focus of the MRFF. It's literally what the army was build around, and that ability to begin the game with board control from the moment you deploy is basically the one thing helping to keep them afloat.

>>53783738
>implying Cossack High Command wouldn't deal with ALEPH if it meant good shit and keeping the children in line

>>53786527
>not posting the superior Autocannon sculpt instead of the shitty ghetto blaster
>not posting the 112, Ariadna's premier hacking specialist
Fag.

>>53792305
Xi Zhuang and 3 FO for the pure joy of B2, WIP 14+3+3 Flashpulses is a wonderful thing.

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>>53793105
Ask and you shall receive. Same picture I always post because fuck taking the effort to actually make a new one with the Dogs. Maybe after the Antipodes are done. The 7th OSN "Orlov," a member of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. A sub-section of Cossack High Command focused on dealing with internal threats to the security and stability of Dawn. What happens when you play Kazaks in a military town where you have 2 Amerikanski players, 1 Frog, and 2 Shotlandski.

>>53795375
I'd include one CG with smoke. Never know when you need smoke and her ability to declare special dodge on an ARO just to shit up firing lanes is pretty good.

>>53786256
Is this the new Joan that was rumored? That would be amazing.

>>53776249
>>53776452

This could also work for anti-PanO Russian sabotage units non-affiliated with Ariadna (but ironically represented on the board with their minis, anyway). Iirc, someone said there's another non-O12 Russian colony somewhere in the Solar System?

There's also stuff like non-Nomad black block/communist insurgent stuff - PanO being partially Filipino, I doubt their Moro/Islamist insurgency died, nor did their Communist insurgency.

And given the fact that Infinity has a higher tech base, it's easier for black blocs/socialists/communists/maoists/tankies and the like to 3D print their weapons, sneer at the Nomads for not taking the fight to the capitalists and liberals, and go to war.

iirc, isn't Yu Jing dealing with a Japanese ultranationalist/seperatist group?

>>53795847
It's a bust stretch goal thing from the Luxumbra O-Yoroi figurine KS.

>>53776476
I actually have a list in my GDocs - I started exploring all the reasons and thought it'd take a few minutes. Holy fuck, nope.


PanO:
Ultrafundamentalist rogue unit/militia/corrupt portion of the church gets mad at everyone for not prayin' to Jesus right, goes apeshit.
Megacorp oversteps its boundaries and tries to go full lolbertarian ancap, attacking government.
Literal Corporate warfare (aren't ORC troopers corporate?)

Ariadna:
KGB vs. CIA vs. (insert French intelligence/FBI equivalent here) vs. MI6/Scotland Yard.
Werewolves go feral - given that one of the units is specifically an anti-Werewolf Riot unit and it apparently doesn't take much for a yiff to go berserk and unable to step down from Bloodlust...
Militia
Desperadoes and Bandits - iirc, Desperados' description states that there are a host of Wild West-style bandit groups and Amerind-styled (if not actually Amerind themselves) tribes that are ultra-violent. Literally any Wild West justification goes here - failed bank robbery, Ariadnan forces finding a wanted bandit group that's been harassing trading routes and off-world ships, Amerinds rightfully furious at Whitey for continuing to rape their lands and women and going the old-fashioned scalping way.

ALEPH:
Running a wargame simulation to see
Malfunctioning branch/fork of ALEPH, due to virus/hostile hacking/etc.
Fork of ALEPH decides to tell the main ALEPH to go fuck off.
Paring down spare units and letting the surviving units stay, as they're battlehardened - at least, for the remote-controlled units.

Combined Army - same as ALEPH, though you can throw in Morats not getting paid, and units going rogue on realizing how utterly insane the EI/CA's AI are.
Heck, there's a possibility for certain AIs or meatspace generals to go rogue and go to war for less transcendentalist reasons and more traiditonal alien-warfare reasons - resources, politics, general hatred of humans,

More on the next post.

>>53795891
>another non-O12 Russian colony somewhere in the Solar System?
Titan or something. A number of the gas giant moons have them, I think.

>>53795989
God has abandoned me.

Thanks anyway though.

>>53795005
Maximum Ghazi.
Play Bob Marley.

>>53795005
>30 Kum bikers
>William Wallace and his 39 Volunteers
>A swarm of <40 Hungries, attached to a small CA force

>>53795005
Find something that is a meme for you. And meme it.

A meme for my folks is "fight me" cause thats what it looks like the Haqqislam Fiday is saying in his model.

Anything is a meme if you meme hard enough.

The line between memeing and playing bad gets blurry. thats my hope. I don't win often.

>>53770133
>dead characters
Toni Macayana

>>53776476
>>53795994


Yu Jing:
Interservice rivalry gets taken too far (this is already canon, anyway :V)
One agency decides a government official must be disappeared - hit squad runs into their uninformed bodyguards, or perhaps another agency is protecting them. (This works for PanO, but probably less so)
Pre-Spaceflight Ultranationalist groups - old-school Uyoku dantai who still haven't forgotten WW2, South Koreans who never forgot Japan's colonization of them, North Koreans keeping the memory of the Great War and the Kims alive, Chinese who still want Another Great Leap Forward and/or never forgot Nanjing, Taiwanese who never forgot Mao, Hong Kongers and Macauists also never forgetting Mao or the Mainland's shitty policies, Tibetans who never forgot China's annexation, Vietnamese who never forgot the Chinese Border Clash, Mongolian Nationalists who want China out again, Malaysians/Filipinos/Indonesians/Singaporeans/Timorese/Burmese/Thai/Cambodians/Laotians/(insert SEAsian country here) that haven't gone to Haqq hating on the Chinese, Vietnamese tribes continuing their warfare, et cetera)
Ainu/Okinawan seperatist-terrorist groups (probably a bit silly, but then again, BSDM nuns, catgirls, and werewolves)

>>53796123
>>53770133
Didn't they have Cubes or whatever the Cortical Stack ripoff is called?

>>53796123
>Our Lady of Mecha
>Dead
>Not a holy saint who will return to life to redeem the wretched TAGs

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>>53793105
I never used an airbrush. These are just wash-painting over white primer.

Prime white
Basecoat
Wash down
Highlight Up.

>>53796169
Nope. Toni and Tikbalangs did not have cubes. And the Tikbalangs still don't. She's dead, but her rules live on in the update that the Tiks got after she croaked. Unlike the Exrah who just got squated. Or Ko Dali who got sepsitorized and swapped into a slightly-tweaked CA character.

>>53796199
>LE Joan

Thanks for reminding me I can't have nice things.

>>53796277
If you want a LE Joan that badle there are plenty on eBay.

>>53796319
For crazy prices.

>>53796326
I have seen some for like $30, that's not crazy for a LE model which would cost you more than $40 if you bought the book.

>>53776476
>>53795994
>>53796133


Nomads:
Like PanO, corporate warfare taken to the extreme (Praxis corps operate without any laws, if I recall, and iirc, several Nomad units are specifically made to combat runaway Praxis experiments or corporations getting too ancap for the rest of the ship).
Astreia! fight (aka: Unreal Torunament :^))
As with any good far-left movement, splinter factions, petty grudges, and hating on the others for not being 2radical4u - tankies, black blocs who think everyone else is a liberal (note: far-left generally despise "liberals", their term for mainstream leftists or American democrats and sometimes even the Green Party), Maoists, Anarcho-primitivists with Unabomber and Project Mayhem sorts, old-school 'merikkkan Libertarian militia who haven't fucked off to Ariadna (with a healthy dose of hi-tech and maybe fundamentalist nuttery), punk radfems keeping the spirit of the 90s alive (see Riot Grrls), TERFs who decide to reenact Andy Warhol's murder on every male, genderqueer, and female who dares to like sex with men,
Pupnik shipment reaches the streets, due to total negligence, and wreck havoc.
Like PanO/Haqq, religious sect (or even cults) decide to play Jim Jones and go nuclear. Maybe literally.
Corrupt Moderators (or admin abuse, as we like to call it) finally earn enough ire for someone to start shooting.
Ship captains throw down over some stupid-ass political slapfight.
Criminal mob from Correigdor gets busted by Moderators, or Criminal gang warfare, as always - street gangs, old-world organized crime escaping ALEPH/O12 jurisdiction.

>>53796443
>running Bakunin in the RPG as literally the worst of Space Station 13
The sad part is, it wouldn't be far off.

>>53795994
>(insert French intelligence/FBI equivalent here)
DGSE. Direction Générale de la Sécurité Extérieure.

It's a really shitty name.

>>53796443
Bakunin in particular is really ripe for infighting. When you've got white supremacists a few modules over from black supremacists, or communists next door to fascists, then there's bound to be times when they start an all out war for the Moderators to clean up.

>>53796702
SS13 mod with Infinity minis when


I really wished Infinity supported multi-faction fights, because I would totally kill to have aswangs trying to both kill off warring Nomads a la Alien mode.

>>53796277
There is supposedly a non LE version coming out this year - probably after Gencon.

>>53797027
I have heard rumor of us getting a new Joan. But I doubt it will be as good as the LE Joan.

I would happy kill Saracens for another run of those.

>>53797051
Again, check eBay, plenty of reasonably priced ones.

>>53796169
Toni's Cube got fried.

>>53796215
The TAGs have remote presence, no robots have cubes. Toni had one, but it was fried when she died.

Which Infinity model would you hotglue?

@53801207
Achilles

>>53796990
I actually were more inspired to imagine SS13 Infinity mod after reading about PanO/Yu Jing joint space station over Svalarheima, that's supposedly symbolize the peace after Neocolonial Wars, but the two sides can't cooperate and the station barely holds together as neither side isn't ready to apply to the same standards.

>>53801207
The one with the nice ass I don't remember right now.

>>53804137
That doesn't narrow the search at all.

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Comrades, what glaring mistakes am I making in this list?

My general idea was
>Iguanas are cool, will use for quick and zippy killing
>Ghulam core link with multiple weapons, FO and repeater for different threats and range bands. Will take and hold midfield
>KTS engineer for ITS, possible support for iguana (but maybe not so viable since only 2 structure points?) and adhesive launcher
>Ghulam medic w/nasmat for keeping people alive
>Djanbazan w/sniper for MSV coverage and putting a dent in warbands
>Hawwa for hacking and speedbump
>BB´s for disruption
>YY´s for smoke and wb-work

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>>53804137
Indeed.

>>53805036
where is guija pilot?

>>53805678
This was made before she was released.

>>53795404
How do you do your camo pattern? Ive been doing some urban camo with blues but im struggling to make it look anything like a real pattern.

>>53804856
Not a QK player but it looks functional. Maybe move one the Bashi into group one so you can feed it orders. Those kind of troops need more than one order if they are to get stuff done. Yuan yuan at least get both their impetuous and irregular order.

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So Wotan is active and people get battle reports shoved in their face, or are faced with writing them themselves to participate in the campaign.

I'm not wild about my clubmates asking me to do paperwork after every game these weeks, but I do like to put some thought into what makes a nice battle report.

Obvious points:
> High quality paintjobs and terrain

> High Quality pics: use of good angles, lighting, edit pics, either for narrative flair (shopping in some backgrounds), or for comprehension (arrows to indicate movement, los, etc.)

> avoiding walls of text

My question is, how detailed should the procedure of turns be documented. I like narrative reports with cool pics more, but one should also convey a general idea of what's going on? Or do you want to know every single crit?
My personal favourite battle report of all time was that epic White Dwarf 40k two-parter during the Armageddon summer campaign, but that was pure narrative.

Pic related, shit I'm trying to do for pre-battle army overview shots.

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>>53808972
Other side, skipped on the unpainted models.

>>53808972
Make it enjoyable for yourself really. deciding crits that swing the game but we dont need to know how many orders are being used on a model. If something goes and dies its just a passing comment. Pics, especially yours with the lighting, would probably go further than excessive detail or excessive narrative. Mostly just make it a fun read I guess? Sorry, not the most constructive advice.

>>53808972
Honestly don't put a ton of excess thought into it. Lemme link a basic one

https://wotan.warconsole.com/battles/vandraven-vs-baghras-1496684454

This was done by a dude from my store. A simple Picture>explanation>picture>explanation sandwich is enough

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>>53807626
>light grey
>white splotches
>dark grey splotches overlapping the white splotches
>black splotches overlapping the dark grey splotches
It's basically just the second lightest color, plus a series of overlapping blobs growing progressively darker.

>>53809028
>>53808972
Holy shit, that lighting is fucking on point. Dig the shit out of that.

>>53796907
Bakunin probably has more subversive shit going on. I mean, you've got taskmasters that squash run away science experiments of +2 face Fucking as a normal Saturday. A block riot would be nothing

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>>53796907
Sounds like someone needs sinners removed?

>>53789798
>Zenith prime and then wash a bunch
I've heard this before, might actually give it a shot on the Jade Warriors for my ISS, reckon that it'd be a pretty easy fit for something that's mostly going to be jade and white with some black touches. Is there any more detailed description of this shit? Just how thin of a wash are we talking, ideal medium for that shit, etc.

>>53812316
T'was a sneaky Kazak, the entire time. Guess I dropped the faggotry for another thread, forgot to reup when I got home.

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wasn't expecting it to turn out so smug

fun little exercise at least

Blackjacks are apparently going to be unvield at Gencon

>>53812745
Here's two tutorials for different styles.
No zenithal priming or anything. Just washing over white with the effects different dilution gives, plus the magic of GW washes.

http://infinitytheforums.com/forum/topic/43879-killionaires-tutorial-alt-pose-isobel-mcgregor-in-90-minutes/

http://infinitytheforums.com/forum/topic/29491-killionaires-tutorial-joan-of-arc-in-90-minutes/

>>53813599
Can you do that using the 50/50 mix with water instead of thinning medium? The tutorial says that it works both ways, but that just seems bonkers.

That shit looks great though, and I reckon that for a relatively light pattern such as jade and white, it'd really shine. I guess the big question is whether I gloss up the armor at the end or not, to give that proper jade sheen. Wait, nevermind. They cover that in the actual tutorial, using thinning medium, glaze, and paint in a 2:1:1 ratio, neat. Definitely going to give this a try.

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From Giraldez's instagram.

>>53813204
>acheron falls 2016

>>53809028
>Tactical Necessity
Why am I not surprised. It makes sense really.

>>53813676
>>53813599
OP for those tutorials. It's your call to experiment and see what makes sense. But the basic rule of thumb is: Go light to dark, clean up mistakes in between, and it'll look like crud all the way until it all comes together at the end. Then you can do slight details.

Remember, you'll always notice your own very fine mistakes as the original painter that others will not.

...And random question, by why the fuck do Kazaks get shafted when it comes to Assault Pistols? Amerikanski have three units with a profile that comes with them, Shotlandski have a pair of Scots Guards, one SAS, and two special characters, and Frogs have them as basically standard on Zouaves and Briscards. Meanwhile, Kazaks only get them on the Colonel and Isobel.

>>53814017
Hot damn, cool to hear. Guessing it does work best for relatively light schemes, no?

>>53814080
Coincidence, I guess. Assault pistols are pretty rare in general.
Marauders and Guards get them because they have HRL and ML profiles respectively, which often come with extra secondary weapons like asspistols or light shotguns.
SAS get them because they're the designated doorkicking infiltrators and assault pistols are good for that. Rangers are a similar story except nobody uses that profile because the SMG is better, cheaper and can be a specialist.
Zouaves have them because they're also doorkickers. Notice they only have them on the rifle+DEP profiles, not on special weapons.
Desperadoes get them because they really like pistols. A bit of an odd duck as warbands go.
Briscards are a bit weird but I guess it's part of the whole marksman rifle deal.

Also Isobel is not Kazak you thieving rusky.

>>53814301
>Desperadoes get them because they really like pistols. A bit of an odd duck as warbands go.
How else would they HIGH NOON?

>>53814301
Yeah, but none of our designated doorkickers -- primarily the Spetsnaz parachutists -- get 'em unlike their kin. And our equivalent of HRL and ML in the form of Tankhunters don't, either. Just sort of bizarre because for the most part, our equivalent units just don't have them. Which isn't really a complaint, since I don't feel like I need them. Just seemed a little odd.

>Isobel
Incorrect. She actually joined the Stavka to get away from shitty Shotlandski inter-clan politics. One of the few organizations where the four member-states actually cooperate and work together -- most of the time. But the SID is still largely rooted in its roots as an organization that was founded by the Rodina Secret Police whose first act was reaching out to their counterparts, recruiting them, and 'aggressively desegregating' them.

I mean, since they're probably making the Kazak sectorial Tartary instead of Rodina, I guess you have a point. But there's really no reason for her not to be in Rodina list given her allegiance to SID. Remember, we are working towards a unified, harmonious way forward that keeps those fucking galactics in check. You can thank your Kazak neighbors for that ring of orbital railguns that keep you safe. Rodina Stellar Authority, to be precise. Sure, we taxed you fucks into civil war which mostly just re-upped our unofficial control for the Roving Star system, but now we've got the Burning Star system.

>>53814505
It's not odd at all. Assault pistols are more common in Ariadna than anywhere else, but they're still not what I'd call a mainstay.

>Remember, we are working towards a unified, harmonious way forward that keeps those fucking galactics in check. You can thank your Kazak neighbors for that ring of orbital railguns that keep you safe.
There's no need for the posturing. We're all well aware that if PanO or Yu Jing were let off their leash then Ariadna would be gone within weeks. Or hours if they decided to take the kid gloves off and just virus bomb the continent. O-12 is the only thing keeping the nation alive and everybody knows it.

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>>53811827
>>53812085
>>53812316

BattleReportfag again. Okay, since there were positive reactions to the pics with the extra lighting, I'd like to offer the full battle report and ask for feedback.

Not a rating whore (it helps though), I'm more interested into ideas.

https://wotan.warconsole.com/battles/doomeddice-vs-tristan228-1497440942

For me it's about the eye candy. Am still in early experimentation with the overall composition, reports should have way more pics in general.

I want to try dramatic closing shots representing the games' outcome, winners' model standing next to an antenna or something.

I could add some interesting stuff in the written documentation. First blood should be fun to know. Should also feature more hard facts like weapons used, or objective points after resolving game rounds.

Also I borrowed an idea from other reports which I liked: use a YouTube link for soundtrack recommendation.

Really, I'd like to do it professionally and put much work into it, so exchanging ideas would be awesome. What would you like to see?

My gaming friends are willing to put up with my shit, so excessive time investment is not an issue.

>>53814596

Technically, Ariadna only still exists because of legal stuff by Yu Jing, which the nomads/haqqislam happily supported. Of course, such legal recognition only extends to whatever Ariadna actually controls, so that actually leaves most of the planet available for exploitation.

>>53814856
Other than some spelling errors, nice job. A few more pics would help out.

>>53814080
>Kazaks only get them on the Colonel and Isobel.
>Isobel
>Kazak
Hand in your Kazak card.

>>53815696
You turn in your V-card first.

*grabs assault pistol*
KAZAKS
*loads T2 Rifle*
DON'T
*fucks Claymore*
RULE
*transforms into a Werewolf*
ARIADNA

>>53816010
Who is the most WE WUZ faction of Infinity?

>>53816055
They're salty because Scots lost, even when England was not involved.

>>53816157
NEVER CONQUERED

So I ended up with this list
2 Nisses one with sniper rifle one with HMG
1 akalis hacker
1 mule evo hacker
1 mule minesweeper
3 fusiliers, two FOs and one is my Lt
1 proxy Aquila guard aka the Orc
1 croc man FO
2 Auxilia with their auxbots
out of 2 blisters, the starter , the mule box and the aux box. The problem is that while this is 6SWC it is only 287 pts, and no matter what I do I either end up with a too small army or I end up with a 300pts army, but with too many SWC used. How do I fix this ?

Just a double check.

To be able to use Sixth Sense level 2 to delay an action until after the second declared short skill of the opponent you still have to be within the ZoC?

>>53815696
You work for Stavka? You work for us. Deal with it, ginger.

>>53816010
Eh, I'll take the Scout's AP+Shock Ojotnik, the Spetsnaz's Shock HMG that ignores cover, and the Autocannon. We even get an X-Visor T2 Rifle on the Vet, anyways. And our Werewolves get a full extra Wound for 4 points, while also starting out as a S2 target instead of S6.
>fucks Claymore
Alright, I chuckled.

>>53817106
If you take one of the mulebots as as a total reaction instead of minesweeper you come round to exactly 300. It's not a popular choice because with a Combi and no 360 it's not as good as the HMG one, but it could still kill a drop troop.
Or you could just add a Paramedic Fusilier.
Unfortunately everything good I would recommend is 14 pts (Switch, Krakot, Trauma-Doc).

>>53817106
>>53817319
Or alternatively take another Fusilier as a decoy for your Lt (Indigo model is perfect as an extra Fusi) and a Warcor to flashpulse people.

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>>53817339
>Warcor
Speaking of that model, what USAriadna or some other 28mm model would make for a good Rolling Stone, either real or the actor?

>>53817319
>>53817339
ok. Is there a blister with just one fusilier? I don't want to buy a box or a starter to have a 4th one.
If I downgraded a Fusilier FO to a normal Fusilier I could get 2 points I think. Am not sure I need the switch thing, already have 2 hackers, and no idea if the krakow is good, seems a bit of a suicidialy unit. And I would rather avoid Pano docs, they seem to kill more of their own dudes then they heal them.
Maybe croc man mine layer, deployed as a token , instead of 2 fusieliers ?

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When am i going to see Infinity RP games?

>>53817339
What is an Indigo?

>>53816055
USAdriana

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>>53817529
>ok. Is there a blister with just one fusilier?
Check the store for "Indigo Spec-Op". That is a special guy to use with Paradiso Campaign, but they are officially recognized as universal proxies and it's not uncommon to use one for just a Fusilier.

>>53818596
cool, I didn't knew you could use them in that way. I know that spec ops were baned from use in my store.

>>53816055
Yu Jngs

>>53818961
It's definitely Ariadna

>>53817542
When I have the RPG

>>53816055
Ariadna or Tohaa, I guess.

>>53818961
I could definitely see it being the Japanese, though the fact they actually aggressive fight to prove they wuz kangz sort of acts against it. As opposed to Caledonia that just jobs. Either the JSA or the Drunk Gingers probably fit, but my money's on the Shotlandski.
>randomly luck into the largest deposits of teseum
>randomly luck into having their own loyal Recreation
>still manage to lose pretty much every conflict
>aren't even as independent from Rodina as the fucking Frogs who at least have their own diplomats -- the only member-state to do so, as the rest of the Federation solely uses the Rodina-based Cossack Diplomatic Corp -- and are even working on building their own spaceport with outside funding after the FederationcoughRodina continually shut-down any attempts to fund the Marrianebourg Spaceport
Like, even if I wasn't a Kazak loyalist, I don't see how I could see the Drunk Gingers as anything but a joke faction. The Merovingians have their own style -- forward-thinking rather than the rest of Ariadna which focuses on the past, looking to innovate and peacefully slide their way into semi-independence while still depending on Rodina more than the other two states. USAriadna have build their WALL to keep bad doggos out, have a fucking crazy Wild West vibe with Hell's Angels scalping antipode tribes and their Congress trying to figure out a way to fix their Constitution after the office of President was banned in the wake of the Separatist Wars.
>are confirmed Dogfuckers

>>53819524
>It's a Russki is overinvested episode

>>53819606
>can't refute facts
>just shitposts instead
Truly, a high-quality dogfucker post. I'm sure Wallace will upvote.

>>53819524
The style of the Caledonians is to be divided and petty, thus causing them to always fucking lose while still being awesome. Also werewolves and swords.

>>53819635
Wallace has a job. He has no time to shitpost in Arachne.

>>53819880
>Arachne
While Arachne is around, it's actually hard for locals to access. The Federation has its own version, though, called dNet.

>>53819865
If anyone except for the Dogfuckers had gotten the Hadrian Mountains and those delicious, delicious teseum mines, Dawn would be 10x better. As is, a bunch of inbred drunks solely drag down the Federation. Also, when the defense comes down to "look, we're so awesome because we fuck up everything we do and lose all the time, but we've got MUH CLAYMORE" then you're pretty much a meme faction. Also, I don't understand why the continued reference to werewolves. Scots may actually fuck dogs, but they still have the shittiest Dogfaces. The Frogs have the only one that can fly, the RANGER FORCE has fucking Dogface marines with K-9 Antipodes, and we definitely don't produce ours in Soviet-style black site laboratories and squeeze in an extra wound on the table.

The only thing "unique" about Shotlandski werewolves are the shitty furies from when ginger whores fuck Dogs. Great Link team, pity the models look so meh.

>>53819606
>WHERE IS PROOFS.chicken

>>53820034
>this dude literally can not shut the fuck up.
Jesus Fucking Christ this general is so much worse with you here you autistic fuck.

>>53820034
>If anyone except for the Dogfuckers had gotten the Hadrian Mountains and those delicious, delicious teseum mines, Dawn would be 10x better.

If the Ariadnan nation ceased to exist and more modern powers were allowed to control the planet, Dawn would be 10000x times better. The fact that the Kazaks are the most involved in Ariadnan government is what makes them far more responsible for the shit state of Dawn than a bunch of retarded Scots.

>>53820071
You know you can filter out namefags?

>>53820407
That dude talks like he's a 40kid refugee with all this 'muh army is teh bestest exdee muh slavs' shit so it's better to put him and his shit tier painting in its place.

That place being the trash.

>>53820131
>shit-state of Dawn
Can be shitty out in the frontier area, but not really worse than Acontecimiento and its crazy super-growing kudzu jungles that erupt and retreat miles per day. And certainly better than Grey Goo North America back on Earth. Given time for the colonial population to keep growing, there's still two more continents to fill which I seem to remember Antipodes not being native to. Just little reason to reach out there given most of the planet's teseum deposits happened to be in one place. USAriadna and Rodina have explored the rest of the planet and seeded little outposts out there while looking for resources. All Dawn really needs is time. When you've already got orbital railguns, what more can you really ask for?

Anyone else think that the new official population of 8.5 million is a little ridiculous? Just seems like another example of sci-fi writers tossing out a number without really thinking about it. While Ariadna's always been that little backwater shithole that's only important due to 1) teseum and 2) being able to provide O-12 with a continual stream of innawoods soldiers that can't be sepsitorized, that number is just crazy considering they're supported to control, it just seems crazy that five separate territories end up at just under 9 million. Less than the population of London or Moscow or NYC.

>>53820468
Jesus, dude. I don't think I've ever seen this much asspain. Infinity threads have literally always had YuJing players shit-talking PanO players, PanO players shit-talking YuJing players, and everyone shitting on the Nomads. Caledonians are the Space Wolves of Infinity. You just need to embrace your identity as a furry.
>shit tier painting
lel

>>53820511
Dry brushing isn't hard.

Your stuff looks like hot garbage.

I'm an annoying Yu Jing guy and I like Kazak poster. Diversity is gud bro.

>>53820552
Different shades of shit is still shit.

>>53820520
>complains about someone being cancer
>ur painting is trash lel but mine is like so fucking perfect
>n-no, you can't see my mona lisa, she's too perfect to share
There's only one autist in this conversation friend. And it ain't the one sipping kompot and snickering. But please, tell me how just being a negative shit that talks down other people's paint jobs while not contributing either tactics or fluff is helping not shit up these threads?

>>53820552
Thanks, dude. And I guess he doesn't realize that the name is more or less just to identify "this guy plays an elite Kazak list, I probably shouldn't take any advice about hackers, visors, or remotes from that asshole." Quickly identifying the lens through which you play the game -- especially with different factions handling entirely differently -- helps you get an instant gauge on what a poster's background is. Take any advice I have about remotes with a grain of salt because that shit's pure theory. Just like take a PanO player's advice on how to play motorcycles with a grain of salt.

Hell, most of my Kazak shitposting is just an excuse to sneak in information that we've gotten from the RPG about fluff and the like. Such as the state of the Ariadna Federation's space program, the organization of the Stavka, and the fact that they've got their own version of MayaNet.

>>53820671
>lel but mine is like so fucking perfect
>more driveling garbage.
When did I type that. I just said your paint jobs are shit. Which they are.
You don't even highlight your reds.

Own it you sloppy bitch.

Making stuff up to play the victim is pretty pathetic.

>>53820717
>guy plays a painted army
>call him shit

Yeah only one asshole here.

>>53820926
To be fair if he's that triggered by calling those badly painted (which they are) dude may not be mature enough to post here.

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Did somebody ask to post your badly painted models?

>>53821002
Nothing wrong with painting badly as long as you're not defensive to the point of seething if someone calls you out on it.

>>53821149
True, but being a dick about paint jobs is far more despicable than painting badly.
>>53821002
Thats better than most models. Most models are paintless, and at gameplay distance that will look fine.

>>53821280
>Most models are paintless
How many of the players with paintless models are former 40k players?

>>53821280
If you can't call a spade a spade you're doing yourself a disservice.

Judging by his reaction it needed to be said since apparently if you didn't paint the mona lisa he is above criticism.

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>>53821149
I'm not defensive about it, just often insecure about it. Like this guy. I think the camo cloak turned out great, but the gun and leathery clothing terrible along with the derpy eyes. Yet I still get some compliments for some models, I just justify it by saying at least I paint my stuff.

>>53821352
>If you can't call a spade a spade
Alright, then you're a toxic faggot that so far has done absolutely nothing to contribute to this thread. Be as toxic as you want, but just doing nothing but bitching about people's paint jobs while not even providing tips or recommendations is just the sort of cancerous behavior best left in 40k threads. I don't give a shit about your opinion -- especially since you give no basis for your own capability -- and instead will just go with the criticism and compliments I got while painting them months ago.

>>53821431
Yeah, eyes can be a bitch. Luckily, rarely noticeable while you're playing. And hot damn, those icicles are on fucking point. What'd you use to make those?

I impulse bought a box of Aragoto and a box of Domoru Butai. I love these models (the bikers were a bitch to put together though) but then panicked upon realized I had way way over a full army for Yu Jing. That hasn't happened to me in other wargames. And I got their TAG as a gift from my brother. Im having to make hard list calls I've never had to do in other games.

Having started with the Red Veil box, did I just buy heaps of garbage Imma enjoy painting, or could these buys work? Even just one of each.

>>53820071
>>53820520
>>53820570
>>53820717
Why are you so angry?

>>53821431
I've just given up on eyes.But tbf i can get away with it due to the fact that i play aleph and Combined army.

>>53821482
>Literally seething.
Aktucalcacally I told you to highlight your reds.

>>53821487
>Namefags coming out of the woodwork.
It's because these guys pushed the faggot furry stuff that you guys appeared yeh.

>>53821482
> especially since you give no basis for your own capability
I just wanted to point out the logical fallacy here.

Just because you're not a movie star/director doesn't mean you can't call a film shit or judge it based on artistic merits.

You can carry on with your scheduled autism now.

>>53821517
>still mad I called the Scots furries
Holy moly, is this actually just an asspained CHA player upset because Scottish women fuck dogs? Amazing.

>>53821598
I don't give a shit about your faction comments at all. You're just a stupid person who thinks he has smart things to say.

>>53821666
...the reason you're not showing your miniatures isn't because you run a pure Wulver + Cameronian list, is it, tovarish?

>>53821666
Dude this is a thread on 4chan in tg. Just go take a nap n relax.

>>53821693
Case and point really. I'm sure for you that's some witty banter.

>>53821517
I actually do it to be better able to find my own post in a busy general to better gauge time and board speed. Benign is a word I have never ever seen on 4chan.
>>53821517
>>53821666
Why are you acting this way? Kazak Shitposter always acts this way.
And once again, why are you so angry? I'm here to talk about Infinity.

This argument really makes me think.

>>53821799
But did it activate your almonds?

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>>53821693
No, because you're a fucking namefag who is cancer and should have been called on his shit a long time ago, just like the DEVA guy and another Kazak poster we had a few months ago.
No, I'm not him. If you want to see my shitty minis, knock yourself out.

No one fucking cares for your "Szotlandzki" shitposting.

>>53821817
This.

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>>53821482
I've had this clear plastic sprue from a dakkajet. whittled it until it looked like an icicle. Used that on this dude. Gave it a very light and watered down blue wash, Drybrushed it with white to make it hint at snow a bit more.

From that model I had a spare icicle which I put as the smaller icicle for Knauf. The bigger icicle was simply carved/whittled from a spare clear plastic base stand that you'd find with models like the Meteor Zond, or floating units from 40k like Land Speeders, Wave Serpents, Deff koptas, and Crisis suits. I'm honestly not sure which one I got it from but you can tell its from those pegs because of the little bubble. I took a box cutter, held it from the bottom with some priers, and shaved off the top until it was pointy then I cut off the insertion peg at the bottom so that the bottom would be flat.

>>53821508
I try it because I feel like if I challenge myself at it enough times I'll get it. Best results happened when I've got them looking to a side though, which is hard with Knauf asdesigned to look straight forward.


>>53821487
Yeah, Infinity gets you by being just cheap enough to make you collect more than you need and even multiple factions.

Aragoto are fine. They're just about the strongest tactically variable noncharacter motorcycle options around due to their optional impetuous order, regular status, and mimetism. Movement is a great asset for flanking and late game seizing. Their BS 12 and mimetism makes them decent shots. My main problem with them is personal. The Aragoto hacker I field is known for failing WIP rolls for objectives many times in a row (usually twice, but to a record of four) so I distrust what's on paper a really great option.

Domaru Butai are great (especially as the Lt option, duo, or in a link with Haramaki or themselves). Super scary up close. The Berserk skill, kinematika, Martial Arts, stealth, and high CC stats really add to its design as a flavorful HI unit. Won't likely use all 4 tho

>>53821817
>reposts one of the most commonly reposted altered minis in these threads
>then claims not to be samefagging and samefags a reply after one minute
Um, guy?

>>53821916
That's actually two different posters even if he did post a common image. Times are to close together.

Nice attempt though sherlock.

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>>53821916
It's my own picture of my own mini.
Here's the same pic before I photoshopped it.

>>53821903
Good shit, dude. Really love how it came across. Those striations are amazing.

>>53821487
Well, you're definitely almost to a JSA armor. Domaru + Neko is a ferocious link team, and one of a slim number of links that really make CC shine. If you get someone to provide them some cover to help get downfield, you'll be able to cut through just about anything while using an eight inch Assault to keep killing. Aragato are amazing, too. An Impetious order only if you want it, regular status, and Mimetism to keep their fat asses alive. The Hacker is someone our former-JSA player swore by, but even just a BSG can do some very disposable damage.

If a TAG's hit by ADH, is the PH-6 roll at PH-12?