EDH/Commander General

>>53736457
>Ib4 casualfags crying about MLD and houserouling to forbid it.
Entitled shitters makes this the Worst format

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>>53736504
To be fair, there was a print of a a good storm card recently

>>53736604
The feeling of blowing up the green players entire land base because they ramped so much is amazing

>>53736604
There's a difference between the guy who MLDs when he has mana rocks and creatures and the guy who blindly slams Armageddon turn 4 as often as he can.

MLD should be a tool, but it's ruined by the shitters who treat it as an endgoal.

>>53736645
You're playing into the Titania player's hand.

>>53736675
>playing MLD when Titania is on the field

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>>53736645
Ell Oh Ell

>>53736638
The difference is that Resevoir has to be on the board when you start, rather than just storming your way into it. It's a lot less broken.

>>53736690
I'm not noticing "Instant" anywhere on there.

>>53736701

>The difference is that Resevoir has to be on the board when you start, rather than just storming your way into it. It's a lot less broken.

i think you need to read the card again

>>53736714
So?

>>53736769

i think the idea is, they are still fucked by MLD, if they have to get back to 4 mana before they can cast this

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>>53736457
I'm not sure if I'm in the right here, so I'm asking here.
>LGS hosts a weekly commander tournament
>finally off work when it starts, decide to come.
>Friends had told me it was a more aggressive deck kind of game, so I bring my best deck.
>First pod is casual.dec on every other player, i feel really mean for just beating up on them.
>Finals ends by going infinite turn 4
I just feel like an asshole you know? My friends all play more powerful decks, so when they said it was a competitive type match I believed them. Deck was Selvala.

>>53736701
Yeah no. You can storm all day and get it out and then gain like 100 life from Brainstorm

>>53736769

If his landbase is in his grave, how does he cast it?

>>53736768
If you draw and cast it twelve spells in, you missed 12 life gain triggers. That makes it a lot harder to go off, compared to the only important part about Storm spells being casting them last.

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>>53736645
This is why I play Selesnya

>>53736793

>competitive
>commander
>tournament

these seem like words that shouldn't ever go together...

>>53736793
Sounds like they wanted you to put the fear into some chumps, anon.

>>53736789
>>53736814
Mana rocks. Be Omnath. Have four more lands and ways to get them out because you're green. And then cast it and laugh at the MLD player because for four mana his symmetrical wipe went entirely against him.

>>53736793
You have no responsibility to hold back in any competitive event.

>>53736843
Alright, if we're playing magical Christmas land and just pointing out cards that counter other cards, let's say the MLD player also hits you with a Bojuka Bog. Let me guess, now you happen to have a Witchbane Orb?

>>53736843
>Armageddon is the only MLD spell

>>53736890
It's not magical Christmas land to have a few more lands or 4 mana in rocks. If I really wanted to play pretend I'd have said I had a Vedalken Orrery.

>>53736926
It's magical Christmas land to act like you'll have Splendid Reclamation any time there's MLD.

>>53736952
It's magical Christmas land to act like you'll have MLD whenever another player builds a strong land base and that it'll actually be helpful to use.

>>53736815

right but each life gain trigger is bigger than the last, using your example of 12 spells in, you only need to cast 5 more spells to have gained that much life

also missing 12 triggers seems unlikely, if its in your deck and youre going off, you probably tutor it earlier on than that

just comparing to other storm spells, it seems about as good as any of them except mind's desire, but you want to mind's desire into more storm spells and aetherflux reservoir anyway

>>53736832

look at this guy, posting from 2008

guess what, after obama, we elected donald trump! what a shocker

>>53736973
There are like a dozen MLD spells vs. 1 Splendid Reclamation.

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>>53736793
List?

>>53737028
Fuck off with your discord shit

>>53737049
>I hate fun
ok

>>53737014
There's also Praetor's Counsel, Life from the Loam, and Crucible of Worlds.

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This isn't over. If you disagree, then you have no understanding of the blitzkrieg maneuver.

>>53737014
>>53737095

also faith's reward and second sunrise and boros charm

they arent usually that great but if you see a lot of MLD and/or your deck doesnt like getting board wiped, they can be pretty good

alternatively, you run them WITH mld

>>53737095
>Praetor's Council
>As an answer to MLD

And this is supposed to be your argument for saying you're not living in a magical Christmas land? If you have 8 mana to blow on Praetor's Council after MLD, I don't think you're really needing to "recover".

>>53737061
MAYBE HE DOESN'T LIKE A FURFAG CIRCLEJERK SHITHOLE THAT SCREAMS ABOUT SHELDON ALL DAY

>>53737103
>Pssh, don't you get it kid? Magic is just war writ small. You and I are generals, and I'll show no mercy, even with my last breath. You should do likewise.

>>53737129
Second Sunrise might as well just be Cancel in that scenario.

>>53737033
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/02-06-17-mono-green-storm/

>>53737176

its a little different, but yes

Anyone here get backwards life clickers in their Commander's Anthology? Two of them came backwards and I sent an email to wizards so I will see if anything comes from it.

>>53737212

>backwards

in what way?

>>53737212
Turn it upside down?

What is some good card draw tec for BUG Sidisi that interacts with her whole graveyard schtick?

>>53736604
If you MLD to win the game, fine.

If you MLD to make a game take 8 hours then fuck you.

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>>53736457
>funnest color
Multi-color. If I had to absolutely pick only one it would be a tie between Black and Red. Which is hilarious as I'm not much of a fan of BR decks. It's just when I play something the primary color is usually B or R. And on the rare occasions it isn't, B or R are making appearances as supporting color(s).

>>53736690
I can play this game too.

>>53736457

>TFW you only own the shitty flavor text version

I really need to get the regular version.

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>>53737410

>Random player drops Jhoira deck
>ohherewego.jpg
>"It's not like other Jhoira decks! Trust me!"
>Apocalypse, Eldrazi Titans, etc. are suddenly suspended
>Table's face

I love going from FFA to 4v1 in one turn.

>>53737485

>tfw the jhoira player suspsends everything in 1 turn
>tfw righ before they are about to untap for the big turn i flash in teferi

best feel

>>53737229
Two of my spinners were manufactured with the two of the same side so one side is always upside down and backwards.

>>53737259
Lol. I wish it was a case of me being more retarded then buying wizards products.

>>53736701
>Adds incremental value to storm decks
>less broken.
What did he mean by this

>>53737049
Don't worry OP. I'll make sure to put it back in the next opening post for the next thread. It's okay you forgot it. Mistakes happen.

>>53737164
Then maybe he shouldn't come to this general.

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>>53737546
What have you done...

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/casual-horror-tribal/

Anyone care to check out my casual/budget Lord of Tresserhorn deck? Did I miss any cool tech?

>>53737706
I didn't forget it, I got rid of it because it's cancer.

>discord included
>no one cares
>discord excluded
>discord fag throw a hissy fit and drag everyone down with them
wtf i love discord now

>>53737978
I bet the discord spitescoops too

>>53737939

When the special kids want to sit at the table in the corner of the cafeteria, you let them.

Besides isn't it just a chatroom?

>>53737706
Why are you such a salty faggot? Go circlejerk elsewhere

>people getting butthurt about Discord
Just put it in the general and then nobody fucking talks about it.

>>53738052
Fuck off, just cause one discordfag has been using the general to advertise it doesn't mean it needs to be added.

>>53738071
It doesn't change anything you lil fag

Fag boy

Lil bitch boy

>>53738094
>remove discord and one autist tards out so let's add it from now on to make him happy

The discord is full of furries and actual autists, if you want those people on /tg/ feel free

>>53738116
Shit man, fuck that, instead let's have this retarded discussion every thread

How does everyone feel about quitting after an opponent makes a fatal play on you? It rustles my Johnnies when I have to hear shit like "well you don't get to life link because I actually just quit."

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Discord, scooping of the tactical nature, and sheldon manta ray. Sol ring and mana crypt, mass land destruction, and the ban list for commander. I fear we actually am become the ausstie. There is only one thing we can do to save us.

We must create rules for The Commander Club, or TCC.

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>>53738163
Please don't.

>>53737939
It"s ironic that the discord only gets mentioned in the threads where someone removes it from the OP out of ass anguish. Some cancer it must be to not even be mentioned in 80+% of the threads since its creation.

>>53738191
Which commander would be best for RPing Pegasus? The choices are pedophiles, cartoony creatures or "look at opponents hand" effects. Alhammaret?

>>53738071
The discord has over 70 users. You can let go of the notion that it isn't used by the majority of the posters in this general. Hell most threads don't even get 70 unique posters.

>>53737410
What I use it to win the game, but it also takes 8 hours?

>>53738174
You forgot Bryanposting.

>>53738227
>join the discord
>see two LITERAL furfags arguing about the spirit of EDH
>swooce on out
Has it gotten any better?

>>53738280
I dunno. I don"t use it that often but a great deal of others do so I include it in the OP. When I've been on I haven't seen this rampant furfag issue and it's mostly been discussing deck tech or upcoming sets like they're doing right now.

>>53737870
It looks fun. I've always wanted to build a Tresserhorn deck. A lot of people like to go zombie tribal with him. Others like to do voltron with some cheap evasion enchants/equips and others like to run infect/double strike effects to one shot with him.

You need Rooftop Storm.

>>53736793
I know that feel anon. LGS has an EDH FNM, came expecting a good challenge for my Breya deck, instead I ended up just going Winter Orb into Soulscour and killing the table in a handful of turns with Tezz 6 ult and Breya activations. Thinking I'll go back to Sydri which is slightly less potent but more fun and challenging to play both with and against.

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what's a deck that doesn't mind not attacking but doesn't tend to hold big hands? a deck where pic related is good without specific support

>>53738614
Purphuros maybe, creature based combo in general.

>>53738614
The perfect deck for this is ghonti, lord of luxury.

>>53738139
No, we do not negotiate with terrorists. If your chatroom is so shit it can't exist without trying to leech from edhg it deserves to die off.

>>53738663
i've actually played a gonti deck and i usually end up holding a big hand AND winning through combat damage, so... maybe not that

What cards specifically should I remove from the CMA precons? I've heard Kaalia's deck is a mess.

>>53738094
Are you even able to be legally unsupervised? Really I'm curious, where have you ever heard someone say this juvenile dribble and sound intimidating/threatening/menacing or even correct.
I mean the discordfags are annoying and mildly spergy, but you went full retard right here friendo and certainly are hurting your cause more than helping.

>>53738768
what, like to make the decks good? it's usually best to take the precon apart completely and build around the commander.

>>53738768
Remove all cards but command towers, Sol ring and lightning greaves from kaalia. Rebuild stronger

Who here runs discard? What flavour of discard do you run and how effective is it?

>>53738614
You can pair that with Bottled Cloister and not worry about your hand size.

>>53739052
i know there are cards like that that synergize really well, but i prefer my cards i play with to be good on their own without needing support like i mentioned before.

>>53739024
It's not. Fact is that with 4 players and most discard only targeting one at a time, my Greel discard deck is sorta shit. I've had more success with Jin Gitaxias but he has a tendency to hose exactly one person and then get removed.

>>53739024
i like discard only if it's part of my win condition (megrim, liliana's caress, waste not) because i know how shitty it can be to discard your hand early on. it's generally unfun to play against if tuned well, and i have the most fun when my opponents are having fun too.

>>53739024
I run discard as a mana dump to take a player out of the game, ala Mind Twist and Mind Shatter.

>>53739024
I run hand size dependant wheels as my discard, I find thoughtseize type effects are too dependant on meta knowledge in my playgroup compared to how open and generic the wheels are.

>>53739024
Mindclaw Shaman and Sin Collector are fantastic in my Alesha deck.

>>53738768
I can't recall exactly what all goes in Kaalias' but it wasn't too bad IIRC. I believe I only had to replace a few instants/sorceries, some creatures, and rework the mana/land base to get it running how I like. It did come with Oni of Wild Places which is fucking awesome for bouncing things back to your hand so you can get those sweet ETB triggers.

That said, you could absolutely build a better deck by getting Kaalia second hand and then using/buying what you need to optimize the deck.

You'll also get replies like >>53738885 and >>53739000 because precons are usually okay at best. They are usually only balanced against other precons. That said, if you look over the deck list and see a lot of shit you don't have, you should consider how much buying the precon will cost you vs buying those cards separately. I know for a fact that if there was a precon with Noble Hierarch in it, I'd buy that shit in a second.

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How does this work with commanders?

>>53739561
The same way song of the dryads and darksteel mutation do

>>53739561
exactly the way you think it does.

this, song of the dryads, darksteel mutation, and to a lesser extent lignify are super undervalued in commander. against decks with a heavy reliance on having their commander out like newzuri it can totally ruin them

>>53739561
It's excellent single target removal, that's how. If they don't have land destruction or enchantment hate their commander is gone.

>>53739622
You forgot bounce spells that arent cyclonic rift.

>>53739610
>>53739620
>>53739622
fuck

>>53739636
cyclonic rift does work against it but only for a turn

>>53739561
It pins them to the board, and it is remarkably effective if they can't shake enchantments.

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>>53736832
>Spot the scrub

>>53739651
Thats why i listed it as the exception, by itself cyclonic rift doesnt reasonably deal with it unless you're one turn from victory if you just had that one creature.

>>53739689
not that guy, but i can see where he's coming from. i like my commander games to be big battlecruiser style magic just because it lends itself well to cool interactions with cards that are never seen in other formats. when i'm itching for a competitive game i'd much rather play legacy than commander.

>>53736789
Be the person who cast the mass land destruction

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What commander would your commander probably fall in love with and why?

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What did you guys get this week or today? Picture related is what I got over the span of the week. The 5 on the left is what I traded for at my lgs.

>>53740016
Would it kill you to focus your camera

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>>53740014
that's a very good question

>>53740066
All the artifacts swoon for Karn.

>>53740016
I ordered a Bayou. I'm just going to cave in and get one of each dual before they get even crazier.

>>53740014
emerakul, because Im playing archangel avacyn

>>53740213
you underestimate avacyn's electra complex

>>53740014
Akroma, because I play Ixidor.

>>53740016
I've got a bunch of nemata saproling stuff in mail.

And a foil ulasht.


Now here's my question:
Is nemata or ulasht better for saproling swarm?

What build differences are there? (Apart from obviously red staples)

>>53740016
Take notes people this is how you troll /tg/ this is a 4/5 star troll post right here. Points off for generic numbers file name.

>>53740016
>tfw too poor to buy cards

i miss when i had a stable paycheck

>>53740232
>implying avacyn wouldnt have cummed herself the second she saw emerakul while she was fighting sorin.

>>53740257
>0611170019
>06/11/2017, 00:19
nigga u dum

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>>53736457

>>53740257
What

>>53740014
>Playing Feldon
Well, that's a bit too easy.

Would Grasp of Fate or Act of Authority be the spicier artifact/enchantment removal for Brago? Permaexile is nice, but you have to Brago in play, flickering Act of Authority to get value out of it more things. Or would a stax-y Aura of Silence be better overall?

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What's your card of choice when it comes to taking down an opponent almost instantly?

Kiki-Jiki fills that gap for me.

>>53740477
the post asks which commander yours would fall in love with and i'm pretty sure there's never been a card for loren

>>53740486
Then the answer is "None".

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>that feeling when you correctly outplay your whole playgroup at the deckbuilding stage with crazy memedecks that dont follow the "spirit of the format".

>>53740014
I play Prossh so... another big legendary dragon presumably. I can't be bothered to remember which dragons are male and which female so idk.Tasigur seems kinda gay to me so I am not sure. And Kozilek? heh Kozi just wants to get some sweet eldrazi lovin with Emmy.

>>53740533
>tfw when there was a guy like that in my playgroup and everybody hated his shit so much he just stopped getting invited
>Last I heard he sold his magic cards

was kinda sad tbqh but I guess when you play artifact control stax eventually the only people who will play with you are other people like you and that sort of person doesn't like the taste of their own medicine I guess

>Find a cheap listing for Replenish
>Check the seller's other listings
>New account, seems personal rather than a store
>Also selling a cheap Greater Auramancy and Academy Rector

RIP that guy's enchantment deck. Who were you? Zur or Daxos? Maybe Bruna or Uril?

>>53740699
>Bruna or Uril

Ironically, you really shouldn't put Greater Auramancy in an Aura-based deck, so probably not them.

>>53740699
most of the enchantress lists i've seen that run replenish are of the green/white variety

>>53740479
There's no reason not to run all of the above. Removal is great!

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/06-04-17-brago-stax/

But, y'know, being forced to choose one over the superior all-of-the-above, I'd go with Act of Authority. It's a permanent exile, which is relevant. Otherwise, Aura of Silence - slowing down your opponents early is still disruption.

>>53736645
The feeling of blowing up the brown players entire field of artifacts because they ramped so much is amazing

See what I did there? Idiot.

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Because I'm sick and tired of my playgroup never having enough answers for when things get out of hand, I've decided to build what is essentially Boardwipe Tribal. Everyone gimme suggestions for some spicy boardwipes to include.

>>53738614
that would be great in my Mogis stax deck. Unfortunately, the price is a little high for a deck I don't play often.

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>>53740865
Just do Child Of Alara with every cycling card and throw board wipes of every variety in

>>53740867
i bought four of them for a memey modern deck like three years ago and recently got the invention in a draft so i'm looking for something to do with it besides just sell it because it looks nice and i'm a sucker

>>53740865
thing about child is that to be the best wrath tribal deck you can be you run as many ways of recurring child from your yard as possible along with decent sac engines

>>53740622
>projecting your dislike for stax onto me
Stax isnt a meme, its the real deal powerwise. I dont even have a stax deck. My decks are made with mld and planeswalkers. This is the next level of edh memes.

>>53740833
Not him, but I don't see it.

Seriously, do people not guard against wrath effects on all their permanents?

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>>53740897
Shade's Form is a pretty sweet card that gets overlooked WAY too much

>>53740917
Tell me right now what the fuck "meme" means in any way when talking about deck builds.

>>53740955
Fringe to the point of being a joke. Its not op and its not popular but I find it effective enough to share it.

>>53740878
>>53740897
Sure, but I was looking forward to jamming a bunch of the weirdest, jankiest boardwipes all into one deck.

>>53736793
>>53736832
I generally only like EDH tournaments when they're 1v1 because otherwise it's always this shit with kiddies playing dumb decks and losing, then next week building anti-you decks and ganging up on you because "you're an asshole" for trying to win a competitive event.

>>53740968
I get what you're describing, but I don't get calling it a meme. Whatever, thanks

>>53740865
Off the top of my head?
Wrath of God
Day of Judgement
Planar Cleansing
Leyline of the Void (so all the destroyed shit is exiled and cannot be retrieved)
Novablast Wurm
Literally any Eldrazi with Annihilator (while not a perfect boardwipe, it tends to fuck shit up really hard)
and I know there is a lot more. Including one that exiles instead of destroying, which is a massive "fuck you" to anyone who wanted to use their cards multiple times.

I've just had a few too many beers to remember all the board wipe I used to use. Because I've literally done the exact same deck you a proposing. I was nuking or removing some sort of permanent every turn and using various effects to keep mine from going away permanently. Definitely don't shy away from land destruction. While doing that shit makes you a priority, it also tends to help keep your opponents from responding.

>>53740917
if someone outright kills you on turn 5, sure, whatever, it happened. go get some food and come back for the next game.

if someone secures a stax lock by turn 5, you either scoop and look like a little bitch or sit there twiddling your thumbs while you wait for the stax player's hatebears to slowly pick players off one by one.

it's a powerful strategy, just a lot more frustrating to play against than most others.

>>53740994
Well if everyone is locked down and couldn't possibly do a single thing, then why not scoop? Why bother waiting for your turn to die?

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>>53740865
How mad do you want the table?

>>53741011
because there's always the small chance that you draw your way out of it. i'm a lot less competitive than the other people at my lgs, so in a situation where i scoop, the rest of them would stick around and play the whole game out.

>>53740784
It's theoretically fine in Bruna.

>>53739561
the enchanted commander will still be a commander. The commander rule is unique to the commander as a card, not as a permanent. That's why clones of commanders wont do commander damage and can't interact with the commander zone.
It's an amazing card against decks like Narset that need it's commander and can't quite shake enchantments.

>>53740865
My "stop getting so attached to your permanents" deck was Mogis.
>All MLD
>All wraths
>All mass artifact destruction
>All lifiegain hate
>All card draw hate
>All discard hate
It was the BR enchantress of hate and turned my meta from a Craw Wurm petting zoo into a real meta with real card where people no longer expect to build an 8 card combo fueled by X/1s and then whine because one of their very important creatures died because someone sneezed.

>>53740951
>Dem tiddis
>Dat thigh
>Dat Metamorphosis
They don't make card art like this anymore.

>>53740968
>its not popular
That's literally the antonym of a meme.

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>>53741102
I think Mogis has to be one of my favorite gods
He's beefy as fuck when activated and 2 damage/a creature every turn is still fine too
Also he looks badass
>>53741114
Yeah man, they're making much better card art now.

>>53741122
Memes all start somewhere, millhouse wasnt even a meme when he first was posted on 4chanm.

>>53741053
What kind of White deck "can't quite shake enchantments"?

>>53741154
Narset, where you run nothing but extra turns and extra combat step cards, and where your deck relies on Narset to dig and cast the cards you need.

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>>53741135
Gross; she looks like a slightly more feminine Michelle Obama.

What do you usually kill Academy Rector with in Daxos? Attrition? Hidden Stockpile? Martyr's Cause?

>>53741419
"if i attack with this will you block it? i promise i won't get anything horrible"

>>53741284
Who also stole PART of Lautrec the Embraced's armor
Also, it was not until her PW card was spoiled that I learned she was a woman

>>53741419
High market, miren, Phyrexian tower.

Alternatively you can just use one of your own pieces of removal.

>>53741433
Is anyone really that gullible?

>>53741437
Honestly, if she didn't have earings, it would be literally impossible to tell

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>>53741419
Secret tech.

>>53741470
nope, they just know that i'm not lying

humility every time

>>53741487
>Academy Rector is a Cleric

Huh. I was really thinking "Wizard" for some reason.

>people who play Stax in EDH

Literally consider suicide

>>53741561
>T1 Island, Mana Crypt, Sol Ring, Smokestack

>>53738614
this could work perfectly in a hazoret deck.

Discard you hand every turn, then attack, and then just sit back until your next turn.

>>53741205
You're still gonna need hoops, since she has hexproof

>>53741608
>hoops
Arcane Lighthouse

>>53741586
hazoret could literally never attack with this in play

>>53741623
yeah im blind

but hey with avarice dragon out or skullcap helmet you can get 4 dmg done per turn and no one can attack you. You just need to wait like 10 turns

>>53741617
Or blinking the enchantment, which is usually much harder to do.
>>53741561
>how to spot a timmy that didn't get to cast his Worldspine Wurm in his deck with curve of 7

>>53741652
>worldspine
>not novablast

ftfy

>>53741652
If you want to be wasteful there's o-ring and such that can blink an aura

>>53737205

That's a pretty kind version of that deck, you shouldn't feel too bad Anon.

How would you feel if they did another Origins block with Nicol Bolas, Sorin, Karn, Nahiri, and Garruk?

>>53741724
>using cheaper cards to lower your curve
Truly the scrubbest of scrubs

>>53741810
Karn would feel wierd as a flip Walker, especially because of the nature of his "sparking" (because he didn't, that's someone else's spark).

I'd rather do ugin instead, if they needed colorless

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>>53741848

>>53741848
It's Venser's, right? Or was that just reigniting him or something?

>>53741729
Yeah, there's not many cards that can be used. Brago is also there, as is Sudden Disappearance. Others rely on you to remove themselves, but you can play Admonition angel, play a land, landfall exiles the aura, you blink the angel and return the aura on Narset.
Janky, but yeah. Easiest is just to play Peacekeeper, Nevermore, Humility or any other similar cards.

>>53741893
it was venser's, yes

what if a flip karn had a "sacrifice a planeswalker: flip karn" activated ability?

>>53741810
>>53741848
Kinda hoping they turn Nahiri into some kind of Harbinger

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>>53741936
man, that would be so cool

>>53741848
Wasn't Karn a Walker before all that anyway?

>>53741946
yeah brooo

but really I mean they go for the full "she's going nuts" aspect or turn her into a sort of unwitting/unwilling beacon that attracts eldrazi

>>53739561
the exact same way it works on every other creature.

i really like lorwyn. can we please go back to lorwyn sometime before i'm dead? please wizards?

>>53742030
The Eldrazi are dead or in gay baby space jail.

>>53742071
Only a part mate, Ugin's said since the beginning our big three are just pieces of a greater whole

>>53742062
Lorwyn/Shadowmoor is a 7 on the Rabiah scale. It's about as likely as new Split/Second cards. And lorewise there's not much left. Maralen returned it to its Day/Night cycle, so it doesn't even have that anymore.

>>53742062
http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/153826844168/the-rabiah-scale

Outcome not likely. They found out from their extraordinarily stupid market research group that the idea of a plane with no humans is not well received.
At least we dropped back in for just a peek during Origins.

>>53742062
I'm with you on this, but it doesn't seem hopefull:
http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/153826844168/the-rabiah-scale

>>53742098
>>53742101
i know... at least we got enough playable shit out of it that i can make commander decks that are both very thematic and half decent

>>53742090
No, what Ugin said was that you couldn't kill the Eldrazi because part of them was always in the Blind Eternities. Then Jace figured out how to get them all the way onto a plane, because fuck Ugin.

>>53742090
I think he means it as in "the purpose they serve" is part of something more important. If they were just a tiny bit of some even bigger Eldrazi nonsense and were real easy to replace, he probably wouldn't have been so opposed to offing them.

>>53742118
That's not it either. He didn't say it was impossible, he said he thought it was a bad idea because "Maybe they're important on the cosmic scale".

>>53742101
>not wanting a fantasy style game called 'magic' to be set in a fantasy setting

Why is so much of the playerbase retarded?

>>53741987
Guy saying it was Vensers isn't wrong, but before that it was Gerard's IIRC

>>53742101
just waiting on that Return to the Return to Ravnica. Hopefully with better card value.

>>53742173
so excited for scars of new phyrexia

>>53742143
Yeah, he means it in an ecosystem way, and since he's not omniscient I think it's more than likely that he's just pissy. Think about it. Ugin was letting the dragons run rampant over Tarkir's human population, so Yasova helped Bolas kill him. He probably sympathizes more with the Eldrazi than with the population of Zendikar. He sees the Jacetice League teaming up to kill the Eldrazi as Bolas and Yasova teaming up to kill him.

>read Karn's lore
>"Urza acquiesced and placed a mental cap on Karn's memories, allowing him to recall only 20 years of his life at a time. There was only one thing that Karn never wished to forget, and every night he would hold a picture of Jhoira and repeat the mantra "Jhoira is my friend.""
I was not ready for this.

>>53742207
I'm pretty new to MTG in general, but everything I hear about Karn makes him sound like the friendly robot archetype I can't not love.

>>53742207
i wasn't playing during the urza block, but every time urza pops up in the lore he seems more and more like an evil dick

>>53742167
More like Urza's, accidentally. He sparked after getting the Mightstone and Weakstone, which had been chilling in Urza's eye sockets, shoved in his chest.

>>53742245
Not so much evil as too concerned with the greater good to care at all about the smaller good. Barrin is like "Karn's depressed," and Urza goes "Just wipe his memories, I'm busy."
>>53742243
>>53742207
Karn is super prone to depression. Hits him like five times over the course of the story, and basically each time he screws things up because of it.

>>53742302
>Karn is super prone to depression. Hits him like five times over the course of the story, and basically each time he screws things up because of it.

I know that feel.

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>tfw i auto include Ugin in every edh deck I make

Anyone else know this feel? Just auto-include any card even though it doesn't make a lick of sense?

>>53742377
ugin, karn, kozilek, and both ulamogs

i'm too much of a timmy to not use them in everything

>>53742377
All is Dust. I don't care if I'm playing four colors and have plenty of removal, I know there's going to be some point where I'm thankful for it.

>>53742030
I got my money on her being the one to release Emrakul at a later date. Plus somebody has to go mock Sorin, with him being impaled and all.

>>53738614
Daretti

>>53742425
>"Hey Sorin. Hey. Hey. Hey Sorin?"
>"Getting locked in stone really sucks."

>>53742377
Kozilek in everything

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>>53736457

>Be me playing Mizzix in an 8 players table

>Despite me trying to be everyone best buddy and remove major threats, I get swinged for lethal damage

>Sacrifice Relic of Progenitus
>Cast quicken
>Quicken is not countered
>Cast Obliterate

>>53738163
Cant you just tell the others at the table, that combat should resolve and then he quits?
I wouldnt encourage that behaviour ever even if i wasnt affected by it.

>>53738614
Obviously play this in Doran decks.
It only checks power and most doran creatures have low power.

>>53742496
well shit, i never thought of that one. kind of makes me want to build that doran deck even though it's probably pretty boring for the most part.

>>53742442
And isn't Olivia the only other one who knows where he is?
She basically said "it's really funny you got curb stomped after having to killing your waifu. Ima go ahead and suit up and go fight gribbley horrors, and assert myself as top vampire bye"

>>53736457

A bunch of me and my mates bought all of the C15 decks and the commander anthology.

What one should I claim? I already own Meren so I won't be taking that. I'm leaning towards Deveri because I think bant colours are fun in multiplayer.

Aside from that, -no one- wants the Boros deck. Is it as bad as we think it is?

>>53742531
>>Aside from that, -no one- wants the Boros deck. Is it as bad as we think it is?
It's better than the Daxos deck desu

>>53738163
One of the few times I was actually pissed at a friend in an EDH game involved me playing Feldon, distinct underdog of the 3 decks, and having a pretty decent game going.
>hard cast a conquering manticore to steal his greenwarden of murasa
>he was going to recur it a bunch in his Horde of Notions deck, was gonna get a fetchland cuz he was having a slow game
>I was gonna sac it and use the exile clause cuz his recurring shenanigans win him a lot of game, and cuz I needed stuff back against the other guy who was ahead on resources but had a weak field at the time, was going to swing the warden at that deck before I sacced it
>I should add that greenwarden is an infinite combo piece for him
>after I target greenwarden, elemental guy says "I scoop"
>feels like he wasn't doing well enough, being a bit mana screwed on 5 lands, and I denied him his intended next land drop off the GY fetch
>I'm left with a vanilla 5/5 flier for 6, and my huge value play that would have kept me in the game goes completely to shit because he wouldn't even let me play out my very quick combat step
>last player easily builds up his field and shits on me
>basically tells me that 'I don't reward people messing with me'

Like fuck, he could have easily made a comeback while me and the other guy were going at it, and by not letting me play it out for 20 more seconds, he completely blew any chance I had. Magic is a game you play to win, and you don't begrudge other people making strong plays.

>>53742531
yes it is as bad as you think it is, but it's /arguably/ better than blaxos depending on how you build it

go with mizzix, that shit is incredible and addictive

>>53742531
Kaalia is valuable but the deck will be messy

>>53742561
I've never played with Kaalia but it looks like she'd just get fucked up every time she hits the board and then you're just left with some bad mardu fatties pile

>>53742578
a tuned kaalia deck plays her on turn 2-3 every game with haste. it's pretty boring and samey but it's definitely strong as hell.

>>53742578
I mean the actually monetary value of the card- for playability you have to build around getting her up and keeping her up which is a challenge in and of itself

How do you guys feel about a deck with splinter twin/ it's other redundant pieces as a wincon? I've had players get real salty when I Tooth and Nail kiki and Bounding Krasis or some such with Swan Song backup. Others were just glad that I didn't drag it out with a grindier combo.

>>53742706
Eh, Kiki-Jiki+untapper is pretty fragile combo, if you rely on combat damage to win.

>>53737410
>using MLD to stall because the monogreen ramp player is about to win
>not okay
Greenbabies need to leave

I fucking hate Mana Crypt. It's a 40 euro entry fee to the competitive meta and there's no good counter against it. If it's dropped turn 1 against you and you don't have the ramp to compete it's basically game over.

>>53742730
honestly what I was thinking when I assembled the pile. Sure, I get a really high % of game-ones due to surprise factor, but my friends all know what I'm packing now. Took it to the LGS and got called a "tryhard", but really I won there because I polict'd the opposing blue players to spend their countermagic on each other. One of them even had Force.
On that note, is JTMS socially acceptable at lgs tournament level? I opened one in eternal masters and figured I'd just use it.

>>53742796
Don't most competitive banlists axe it?

>>53742898
>most
That's a funny way of saying "some"

>>53742796
It's basically the same thing as sol ring. The one mana opportunity cost is often not relevant on turn one, and sol ring never damages you.

Sol ring/mana crypt are really only as good as the decks that contain them because if you're just using them do do something like cast 4/5 mana creatures, any interaction in the game can mitigate that advantage. unfortunately, the way the competitive metagame works, decks are usually trying to race to a solitaire win, and SRMC are among the biggest deciding factors there.

I would advise just not playing competitive commander. It's not a very good format and basically only exists because some players would rather not play a social format.

>>53742923
Isn't it just FFA multiplayer that allows it?
Any competitive 1v1 list that allows it is just ridiculous.

>>53742799
>is JTMS socially acceptable at lgs tournament level?

Jace is not the extraordinary powerhouse he is in Legacy in a format like EDH. I've taken him out of decks a couple times just from being underwhelmed.

>>53738138
>implying /tg/ isn't a den of furfags in denial and raging autists

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>>53741584
This pleases the tunnel snake

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>>53742796
>competitive commander

>>53742377
I throw O-Stone in every deck. Even if I have access to white for more efficient boardwipes, it still has Sun Titan synergy, so I can't bring myself to not use it

Well, after building Ambassador Laquatus "Oops Infinite Mana" I think now's the time for suicide.

>>53742927
>it's basically the same thing
Not the turn it comes out. You get to cast 3 mana spells while still having access to colorless mana on turn 1. That's backbreaking.

I completely agree that people should avoid playing competitive commander. It's a cancerous format. Match your power level with your group's if you actually enjoy playing the game.

>>53738138
Have 2 Furfag friends and one autistic friend that play magic.
These things do not inhibit they're ability to play magic and they are actually pretty skilled and fun to play with.
They are also a ton less cancerous than some of the people in this thread.

>>53743538
What did you do? Just tutor for Basalt Monolith and Rings every game backed with counter magic?

>>53743560
I've got half a dozen infinite mana combos. Palinchron+High Tide/Lens/DEN, Dramatic Reversal+Isochron Scepter, Grim Monolith (Proxied)/Basalt Monolith+Power Artifact, Pili Pala+Grand Architect - possibly another few I'm forgetting about, it's been a long night. Then you just mill people out with Laquatus, and if they have a titan force it into their hand with BSZ/Stroke of Genius/Braingeyser (Proxied, couldn't find a copy). I'm considering swapping Laquatus for Phenax. Black would likely speed the deck up overall, but I'd be left without the infinite mana sink in the command zone.

>>53740865
Sunscour, Fated Retribution, The Great Aurora, and my personal favorite Descent of the Dragons.

>>53743692
>>53743560
Oh, forgot Phantasmal Image+Palinchron.

>>53743692
Sounds like Oona would be right up your alley.

>>53743872
>>53743692
I second using Oona. My current build of her just uses Reversal+Isochron Scepter and the Power Artifact/Rings of Brighthearth + Basalt Monolith (and Grim for PA) combos. The rest of the deck is just UB control and tutors. It's surprisingly fun and can be dialed back for a casual meta by adding some faeries

Green text stories?
Here's one from last night
> got to Lgs
> ask if anyone has edh decks with them for a pick up game
>4 guys I don't know show up
>Playing 5 player
> im playing zedruu and just giving players good
> Skittles infect
> atraxa
> Brion
>Meren
>Meren gets an early lead and is about to do Meren things and win
> Skittles deck has a few big creatures out but couldn't do enough infect damage to take Meren player out
>atraxa player had some bug creatures but not enough to stop Meren
>im just goat Santa
> Brion player says he can save the day but asks for a 3 turn truce so we can all stabilize
> we all agree
> brion uses mob rule and takes all the big creatures and chucks them at Meren since the is equipped with Thornbite staff.
>Meren gets taken out and everyone is happy
> atraxa and Skittles decide to ignore truce and team up to try to take brion out since he has a creature out and over 100 life
>brion now has 9 infect damage and 101 life. Atraxa players turn is right after mine and they plan on finishing off brion with her effect.
>my turn I pull aetherflux reservoir
>tell brion I'll give him a card to take them out and I'll honor a truce to allow him to stabilize so we can duke it out.
>give him reservoir and he blows up atraxa and Skittles
>Brion then fireballs himself.
> brion says I was the only one to honor the truce and he was satisfied with taking out 3 annoying decks with his goat Santa partner.
> was a fun time
>atraxa player was upset and yelled collusion
> atraxa player said we weren't playing fair.
> Brion buys me a beer after
> being goat Santa is always fun

>>53742548
>I made an aggressive play and paid for it politically

Maybe EDH isn't your format if you can't navigate the intricacies of politics.

>>53742938
Yeah and FFA multiplayer is what the overwhelming majority of people who play Commander play. 1v1 is a meme format.

>>53744045
Wow that sounds nice. I also played against a zedruu deck recently. Wish the guy piloting it was as cool as you.

>>53742548
seems like good value for you regardless. If your draws post scoop would have been better you probably just would have won, AND you could tell the story about how you resolved a manticore and killed a player.

That being said you were playing 3 player FFA which is the worst way to play.

>>53744153
Zedruu is the deck I have fun with. He's usually not considered a big threat so I usually have time to get my stuff going as long as no one has a grudge against me from a previous game with a different commander and aggressively targets me.

I usually play her 1 of 2 ways.
way 1: auction zedruu. I usually tell people some hints about what I'm going to play and see who can make the best deal out of it. My personal favorite being goldnight castigstor because everyone expects an angel with 9 toughness to be good but when they realize what it does they usually try to backout of the deal.
way 2- chaos zedruu. find some sort of rng and that's who gets the permanent.


Last night thigh I used zedruu for good

>>53744045
I have the opposite kind of story.

>playing Brago against Gay Kings, Newzuri, and Gahiji
>Gay Kings gives everyone a splash of asymetrical ramp, Gahiji sets up a bunch of little dudes, Newzuri gets him out and starts trying to build a board
>counter Newzuri, get Brago with swiftfoot boots, Linvala, palace jailer and a few rocks
>next turn I slap aqueous form Brago, drop , exile some big dude off Gahiji's board with palace jailer, and drop Nim Deathmantle with Yosei in my hand
>gay kings and gahiji know something bad's about to happen, start talking about who has what board wipe and what they can do
>Newzuri says he's got this, both other decks durdle on their turns and Newzuri massively compromises his board so he can cast Vorinclex with a bunch of open mana
>right into my Desertion
>he spends 8 mana to cast his commander, and then passes
>spend a bunch of mana on stroke of genius, fish ashnod's and drop Yosei with only enough mana to tap down all of Newzuri's lands
>Newzuri asks for a truce because Gahiji and Gay Kings combined could really put a dent in my plans
>they both agree
>Gay Kings completely sells out his board to take me to 15 health
>Gahiji has about 10 power worth of creatures, though I still have blockers
>casts triumph of the hoard
>I'm about to start packing my things, when he swings at Newzuri with the majority of his dudes, only giving me like 6 infect damage
>Newzuri starts freaking out, screaming about "spirit of EDH" and how I'm going to win next turn
>gay kings is just stunned
>on my turn I play out my hand with strionic resonator, sol ring, mulldrifter and Sphix's tutelage, drawing most of my deck and decking everyone in a long convoluted way
>gay kings says good game, we have a laugh
>Newzuri and Gahiji are throwing an autistic shit fit
>I leave with gay kings for beers
>being brago is always hilarious

>>53740865
When your general gives you guaranteed access to a boardwipe it's pretty redundant to fill the deck with more of them. Just make sure you have Volrath's Stronghold and a sac outlet like High Market.

>>53744430
>I leave with gay kings for beers
Wanna know how I know you're a stupid fucking normalfaggot?

>>53742927
>It's basically the same thing as sol ring. The one mana opportunity cost is often not relevant on turn one, and sol ring never damages you.
Are you that fucking stupid?

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>>53744495
Sure.

>>53744509
In lore, Brago has some implied sexual tension with Selvala, who's more masculine than Edric and Leovold combined.

>>53744632
>he actually pays attention to "lore"
You mean where Kaya, Ghost Assassin kills Brago in the lamest way ever? To be fair, I didn't know that, so it's neat, but I'm trying to actively avoid it at this point.

>>53744506
*grabs you by the throat*
back the fuck off?

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Hey bros

I haven't played EDH in years and am thinking of getting back into it

What recent cards are a good fit for Marath? He's still my best general right now

>>53745362
Don't want to be that guy, but

Edhrec my friend. If you want to see new cards marath players are using, that's the site to find it.

>>53745362
Anointed Procession came out in Amonkhet. It's a third token doubler in white like Parallel Lives/Doubling Season.

>>53743031
>underwhelmed
A one sided Howling Mine for 4 mana is considered underwhelming nowadays?

>>53740014
I play Queen Marchesa.

Is Solitary Confinement an option?

>>53741584
>>T1 Mana Crypt
Instant kick from my playgroup

>>53746087
Marchesa x Leovold is OTP

>>53741584
>>53743209
I did this yesterday, except I had to do it turn 2, since I Trinket Mage'd for the Ring.

>>53741032
>couldn't possibly do a single thing
That happens to include top decking something good.

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>>53746054
thank you anon.

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>>53742765
>monogreen
>can only win with permanents
>only interaction he knows is MLD

You're bad.

>>53746186
Well there are obviously more uses than that, Mr. strawman.

>>53746126
And this is why I put Null Rod in every deck I play.

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>>53746215
>strawman
>LITERALLY YOUR OWN POST IN CONTEXT

Anon, be careful throwing around reddit atheist debate cards, in the wrong situation they backfire.

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>>53746186

>>53746253
Getting +1 card advantage per turn if you're not being threatened to use his bounce isn't the equivalent of a one sided Howling Mine?

>>53746278
No, it's not even close frendo. Four mana to just draw a card every turn wouldn't even be close to legacy playable or standard bannable. One of the (many) things that makes jace fantastic is that he can manipulate up to five cards in a single turn. His [0] ability is brainstorm attached to a permanent, and brainstorm is absolutely NOT just played in order to break even on cards. It's a part of some of the most efficient hand sculpting options in the history of magic.

>>53746371
>It's a part of some of the most efficient hand sculpting options in the history of magic.
That's for Legacy/Vintage though. You can't compare Brainstorm in EDH to that, unless you also have a shuffle engine.

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>>53746413
EDH literally uses every card available in vintage besides the ban list. I recommend just backpedaling now instead of trying to save face.

>>53746487
>EDH literally uses every card available in vintage besides the ban list
AT A SINGLE COPY.

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>>53746500
When the student is ready, the master will appear.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/10-06-17-bant-group-hug/

please help

>>53746565
kys yourself anytime weeb, and learn to play before acting high and mighty about your bullshit.

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>>53746588
>he doesn't trust in the heart of the cards

>>53744430
>play brago
>win
The only interesting part of this story was when you almost lost. I'll stay tuned for the next Prossh pubstomp tale

>>53742246
And if you go back far enough, it was the one belonging to the first Dominarian planeswalker. The one who helped seal Yawgmoth away and "mathematically" proved that other planes existed.

>>53746817
> guy playing literal homo deck kingmakes the player that is ahead and playing spikey deck.

If this wasn't pasta, it is now.

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>>53746871
>"mathematically" proved that other planes existed.
Wow, a fucking white male stealing an EoC's achievements. Typical WotC.

>>53746487
Biorhythm

>>53746573
Splash red and make it homo dudes

>>53746500
alot of the good shit is limited to one copy in legacy anyway.

>>53747496
I now have a sinking feeling that they've retconned The Thran. That's the book where a dude named Glacian discovered that mana had different colors and that the powerstones were self-contained universes (planes).

Have a quick link.
http://mtg.gamepedia.com/Glacian

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I'm feeling like such an otaku-desu today =nya=
What commander would best work for a deck themed off my favorite manga? pic related. DESU

>>53748125
Gwafa Hazid, and build Wasitora as well. Then kill yourself.

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>>53746573
Load up a Cataclysm. Gets round indestructible and all of the 'You blew my shit up so I'll blam yours back' shit. That and it lets you bring the fucking fury if people don't want to be friends. And if someone played a Pact before you cast it, god help that poor bastard.

>>53747903
>legacy
>restricted list
wut

>>53737205
holy shit nigger this decklist is awesome.

>>53746186
and saved

>>53749396
>>53749396
>>53749396

New thread. Boogie on over.

>>53748990
guess i meant vintage

>>53749556
A lot of the "good shit" restricted in vintage is banned in Commander, bub