Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

"No Edition" Edition

>>53729991
How long until Guirlyman says any xenos waifu is an honorary human?

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Teleport Homer text reads "If an enemy model is ever within 9" of the teleport homer, it is deactivated and removed from the battlefield". The structure of that sentence implies that it's the enemy model that's removed. Each Terminator Squad that you bring thus provides you with a permanent 9" death sphere that you can place in your deployment zone. Bring IG mortars + manticores or the artillery of your choice and have them sit back completely immune to assault.
Reposting because other thread is det.

New thread, same old autism: would y'all build any of these for 8th ed. IG Russ spam?

Link dump:
-reversed tracks for sloping armor
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/505689.page
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/379581.page
http://s91.photobucket.com/user/Lavallin/library/Modified%20Russ?sort=3&page=1

-Chimera tracks (or just lots of plasticard) for a Macharius look
http://imgur.com/a/lM9ZO
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?148220-Wilsonian-s-Imperial-Guard&p=2700376&viewfull=1#post2700376
http://z11.invisionfree.com/Work_In_Progress/index.php?showtopic=17998

-new tracks for a Sherman look
http://orig14.deviantart.net/198b/f/2010/291/c/5/warhammer_40k_sherman_russ_by_shadowgyrlbrice-d311gho.jpg
https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2017/2/22/859063_md-Socius%20Pattern%20Leman%20Russ%20Battle%20Tank.jpg

-complete LR/Chimera kitbash for a Panzer/Comet look

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?29192-StuG-Russ-Conversion-Guide!-(pic-heavy)-CLOSED
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?14209-The-Imperial-Guard-Tread-head-thread&p=541091#post541091
http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics11/img45d0711746cf6.jpg
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?14209-The-Imperial-Guard-Tread-head-thread&p=2774986#post2774986
http://z4.invisionfree.com/Boot_Camp/index.php?showtopic=13297&hl=

-complete kitbashes for a modern look
http://z11.invisionfree.com/Work_In_Progress/index.php?showtopic=33
http://z11.invisionfree.com/Work_In_Progress/index.php?showtopic=10410&st=25&#entry3562668
etc. ...

>>53730042
You can't deactivate an enemy model, so the teleport homer is the one deactivated and removed.

Shoo-shoo, Shekelberg lawyer!

>>53730014
Knew I forgot something.

>>53729991
Our Hats Have Skulls On Them, Are We the Baddies edition.

>>53730025
I think the better question is, "How long before the High Lords say that Space Marines and Primarchs stop getting to be honorary humans?"

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>>53730042

>>53730042
>OH FUCK, A BEACON!
>*UULLH*
lel

>>53730074
a son of god has come back from death to lead the imperium into a new age, you think the high lords have any real power now?

>>53730042
don't you have anything better to do then break 8th with wording that won't fly offline?

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What the fuck are these models
>not the fucking nurgle sorcerer

>>53730109
>A Mutant is being placed in control of our pure humanity, who will stand against him?

>>53730121

Do I look like I know how to decipher whatever the fuck piece of vomit it is that you just put in front of my eyes anon?

DO I?

P.S. Who cares about Nurgle when Tyranids exist.

Which drill size should I use for the gun barrel ? The bolt gun I mean.

Has anyone got the new white dwarf just checked the megas and didnt find anything, pretty sure one of the megas is dead as well

Shame most of the fliers look hideous or suck
Ace Combat 7 happening is making me want to add some sleek air support.

>>53730164
> Who cares about main villian when Npc race exists

Anon...

Who is the most redpilled faction on the imperiums current state?

>>53730110

"Model" is the subject of the sentence. "Of the teleport homer" is a prepositional phrase. The deactivation is acting on the subject of the sentence, it doesn't matter what's in the prepositional phrase. You're just jelly because i'm going to dominate tournaments with my death field artillery.

>>53730121

Left are likely death shroud termies

Middle arrow looks like a daemon Prince looking at the size of the base and the reversed legs

The right arrow, I'm not sure. I thought it was a blight drone at first, but the more I look, the less I'm certain.

Look below the right arrow to see the Nurgle ultralisk

>>53730185
1 mm

what are the rules for cover with regards to screening units? for example, what happens if I have 2 tactical squads, one in front of the other, and my opponent wants to shoot at the rear squad? do I get +1 to my armor, or can they simply not be targeted?

>>53730042
You are the Charles Carreon of rules lawyering. And that's not a compliment

>>53730212
Primaris Space Marines.

>>53730212
Sound like it might be Custodes. Apparently they've gone full rage since leaving the palace due to how far it's fallen.

>>53730251
> they simply not be targeted?

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>baneblade in the center of IG army taken out turn 3
>explodes
>max distance explosion
>d6 mortal wounds to every unit within a fucking foot of a baneblade's hull

Well this is a ridiculously stupid RAW argument:

Imagifier: Roll a D6 at the start of each of your tusn. On a 4+ you can pick a friendly <order> unit within 6" of this model and perform an AoF with it.

Now, this just says <order> unit. An exorcist, which does not have the AoFs rule, is an <order> unit. By RAW you could make an Exorcist shoot twice per turn.

Celestine is the same, but her rule is Adepta Sororitas and not <order>, but that doesn't change the allowed targets at all.

>>53730042
What unit even has Teleport Homers?

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>>53730042

Are typhoon missile launchers even worth taking on land speeders or is 2 multimeltas a better choice

>>53730264
where do the rules say this though? it is unlikely that a unit in front of another blocks 100% of the rear models from view.

>>53730191

Don't talk about my Voidraven-fu like that!

>>53730284
Termies

>>53730212
the guard

>>53730126
good luck trying to dethrone him. he's got the backing of the church, the pledge of a saint, the marines flocking to him, probably the emperor's encouragement, the public influence, help from the ynari/eldar, and the help of an archmagos who wants to be the next leader of the admech.

>>53730212
The Inquisition, filthy heretic.;

Let's say I wanted to get back into the game for 8th Edition. Where would I start with a Tyranid army (besides the obligatory Tyrant)? Are gaunts and warriors worth it at all?

>>53730292
I thought you mean really wall of spehs mahrines. If you can see anything- you can shoot it

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>>53730121
just enhance the pixels lmao

>>53730064
>Reversed Tracks
Definitely not. Your ability to climb even the smallest ledges is ruined.
>Chimera Tracks
I like it, but I'd keep the Chimera's interpretation of the hull-mount
>New Tracks
They look like the original tracks but very slightly deemphisized the Mark 1 style or track returns. Lots of effort for minimal gain.
>Total Kitbash
Looks pretty lovely. I'd take a couple. Doesn't feel 40k though...
>Modern Look
That's not modern, it looks like a Churchill with an oversized turret!

>>53730278
>loose a few conscripts in each of your six units
Doesn't sound too bad

>>53730310
Nids got a good makeover.

Would you play against an army labeled as "Chaos Marines" painted as loyalist Sons of Horus? As in the models and the paint scheme aren't really chaos'd up with mutations and other stuff, but look basically like Heresy era marines?

>>53730310

Yes. Even if they weren't, the power gap is so much smaller now that you can basically just run what you want. You should build your army that way.

Do daemons still get deepstrike base or do bloodletters have to hoof it now?

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>What army is best at going fast?
Dark Eldar, right?
>Which army is best at making explosions?
Guard?

>>53730312
So, units not in an explicitly defined piece of terrain never gain cover (except from some ability or psychic power or special rule etc)

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>>53730042
Bravo shekelberg, conscriptfags BTFO

>>53730342
>i am literally incapable of reading rules help me!

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Daily reminder that Orks are now meme WAAC tier, replacing Tau.

>>53730321
In this case it was two infantry units, four HQs, and three vehicles.

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Listen up grunt, A commissar from the lore is put in charge of your regiment, who is it?

>>53730352
No, models gain cover if they covered at 1/4. Big models must be 1/2

>>53730365
soo a third of your boys arent even in the fight but XD +1 ATTACK BUBBLE

retarded shit

>>53730279
But only models with the Act of Faith rule can perform Acts of Faith.

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>>53730365
>watching MWG

>>53730388

He even fucked it up because Ghazzy only gives +1 on the charge.

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>>53730332
pic related

>>53730405
MWG has the best overall quality of hosts and game variety.

>>53730381
Hmm...don't know that many. Probably not Yarrick or Cain. Because we rarely see Orks and I see executions all the time this edition.

>>53730429
maybe 3+ years ago

>>53730365
>No 'Is Marneus Calgar real?' tab
>No 'Ebay Tau' tab
>No 'Fabius bile' tab

6/10

>>53730425
They look mutated. Or at least your painting skills are. Way to butcher models.
You could at least paint a clean black along the rim of your models to clean up where you smeared the shitty GW basing-paint, you fucking hack.

>>53730415
it was the Rich dude from BTP videos, right?

doesnt surprise me..

>>53730465
lol, I'm not trying to win contests you autist.

>>53730401

I hate to say it, but that is technically incorrect. The AoF rule says you pick a model with AoF rule at the start of your turn and on a 2+ perform and act of faith with it he wording on both Celestine and the Imagrifier say to pick a unit and perform an act of faith with it. The wording the same except the restrictions are different.

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Thoughts?

>>53730365
>Dark Angels gay fanfiction
That's some strange shit.

>>53730342
No, they do not. Being a daemon gets you a 5++ now, and each chaos affiliation has an added bonus.

>>53730316
Did that and it didnt work well. You wanna give it a try? Im a retard at photo shop

>>53730465
also, they are all works in progress, I haven't figured out the exact color scheme I want, hence the different shades

>>53730492
>Being a daemon gets you a 5++ now
It always did, you fucking retard.

>>53730377

That's what he gets for taking superheavies in the horde infantry edition.
You know what wouldn't have exploded and killed everything around them? 200 conscripts.

I'm just getting into this and I have a question. I'm making a Thousand Sons army and I was wondering, since they're chaos (I think?) can I use any of the daemons with them or just Tzeentch?

>>53730121
One at the arrow head looks like a bloat-drone. Maybe a proper kit instead of a starter set one. Turbines and guns at the sides, cables beneath to hold the model up.

>>53730485
It was brought up on one of the live streams and the answer was that only models with the rule can perform Acts of Faith. It's not the first example of poor wording.

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>>53730251
Well the thing is: can they see your models through yours?

Literally shooting is based on if your model can see their model.
The cover rules do not even state obscured by other units as cover. They can only block LOS.

So see pic related.
Squad 1 can see 2/3 because there are gaps between the models.

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So how many Conscript hordes could this likely clear if it was even given rules similar to those from aeronautica?

>>53730526
Even Khorne

>>53730490
I know. The gay is implied and totally redundant.

>>53730538

Ok, good. Honestly, I expected nothing less in the SoB section of the book because we always get shitty copy-paste rules that no one ever actually looks over.

>>53730492
Man, they really don't know wtf they want to have daemons play as. I still have my 4E book where the entire army was required to deepstrike.

Then we had the 6E book with lol random as the focus where you couldnt even buy wargear like normal. Now, 4 editions later wysiwyg applies to our models and most of my units don't even have their normal weapons modelled.

Like none of my kitbashed khorne heralds have hellblades. My DPs suddenly get fucked out of nowhere because suddenly what arms they have matter. Ugh so irritating.

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r8

>>53730263
>mfw they are busy working on emps OP ass pulls to make Guilliman's secret ultra legions deus ex look like shit.
>inb4 Custodes get access to even more OP squads of Giant T8 Custodes-Primarch hybrids that ride bolts of lightning and arrive from the Emperor's secret Azyr-like dimension, made up of all the non grimdark and retarded Golden Age humans who got sick of the Imperium's shit.

>>53730516
It only did as of 6e. Previously daemons got their invulnerable save from their army book's special rules and tzeentch daemons got 4++

>>53730479
>You can't criticize me because I wasn't even trying to compete at all

I bet you got a trophy just for participating too, if mommy and daddy even let you play sports. If your ego bruises this much from a real evaluation of your painting, I'd hate to see you in a contact sport.

>>53730516
Triggered yourself did you?

>>53730596
>Nids player
Oh look another waac bandwagon member.

>>53730447
Who's better then?

>>53730650
IG>Nids for WAACfags

>>53730294

lel even the dark eldar aircraft are edgy

Any more Primaris rumours now that the White Dwarf has been sneak peeked?

>>53730618
i am just saying you are focusing on something tangentially related to my question and purpose for posting. I made my dudes to play the game with, not to be the best painted models around or win any contests.

[spoilers]Autism to the max.

Thoughts on Chaos smurfs mixed with slaanesh?

Seekers seem insane, they get 4 attacks, move 14", attack first in combat and can move and charge. I'm wondering what size to run them in, demonic icon wants large units but to make the most of them you want smaller units you can flank with.

>>53730663
Remember when bringing tanks in IG was practically Mandatory to win games?

Now its mandatory to prove we're not trying to win at all costs!

Only MODELS within 6" get the +1A, not UNITS..

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For literally everyone commenting with arrows for reference and the bloat drone. I am talking about these two specifically

So I just came back to 40k after an about 4 year break and holy shit things have changed.
Mostly for the better or is that just me?

New rules making close combat great again.
more paints.
Bundles from GW that are worth playing.
Blood Bowl (holy shit YES!)!
Has GW started listening to their base?

From a mathhammer point of view, what is better a weapon that has assault D6 and does 1 wound of damage or a weapon that is assault 1 and does D6 wounds of damage?

If I cast fog of dreams on a unit with re-roll 1's to hit do they then get to re-roll 2's?

>>53730425
They look fine, only an autist wouldn't play you. On a lore note however, loyalist Sons of Horus reverted to Luna Wolves panoply.

>>53730674
Well duh. Why the hell wouldn't they be?

Might as well say "lel even the space marine aircraft are blocky" or "lel even the tyranid aircraft are monsters".

>>53730025
Once Orks become classified as 'non sentient fauna' so they can be annexed by the Imperium as shock troops.

After Ogryn-Ork hybrids are created by Cawl who become the biggest warlords of the Waaaghs and just tell them to fight the humans less (and have some minor regiments thrown to them to keep up combat experience).

>>53730549
As I recall only terrain offers cover. But that's okay because armor is better now, so we shouldn't be in TOO much of a trouble for keeping our dudes alive.

The real value of screening is to prevent a unit from being charged.

You can't charge THROUGH a unit, as far as I know.

>>53730526
Depends on what keyword you use for your army, if you use "Thousand sons" then you're limited to just what that faction has. If you make it "Chaos" you can take anything in the chaos book

>>53730709
its a crate

>>53730557
Paste 'em?

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Guard player here.
How many conscripts should I buy for a competitive army?
Should I just sell my baneblade variants? They seem useless now, and take up too much space in the deployment zone.

>>53730728
Hmmm. I started them out as Luna Wolves years ago, before all the Heresy era models came out, so I have some pretty inaccurate off white beakies and Mk7 marines. Much worse painted than what I am trying to do now as well.

[Spoilers]I am sure that pleases some people.

>>53730750
Understandable have a great day

>>53730594
Unless you're playing a tournament with WYSIWYG most people aren't going to care. It's a demon prince, who's to say what it's weapon is?

>>53730594
a lack of flavor for consistency is the feeling of 8th

>>53730709
can't see shit captain

>>53730698
seekers die like guardsmen, units of 10 or 15 to survive until combat. they should be able to manage a turn 1 charge as well. 14 move + 16 to 21 advance + 3 to 13 charge + 1 inch for fighting means they have a threat range of 34 to 49 inches.

>>53730486
No advice?

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Can anyone r8 my list?

LOW - Gullillilliman
HQ - Chaplain in Terminator armor w/ Combi-Melta
Apothecary

Elite - 5 Assault Termies TH/SS
Primaris Ancient
Dreadnought 2x twin-autocannon

Troops - 2x Intercessor Squads

Gotta Go Fast - 5 Inceptors

Heavy - 2x Hellblaster squads
1989 total.

Plan is to deepstrike the termies with the chaplain for re-roll to hit with hammers.

Deepstrike the Inceptors to dakka something with their 30 heavy bolter shots

Footslog with Gulillyman, the apothecary, banner ancient, and hellblasters to get them into rapid-fire range. Overcharge all day with Guiltyman enabling re-rolls of 1.

Dreadnought provides firesupport, and the intercessors either camp home objective or march in front of Gollygeeman as a screen.

Is anybody else having trouble with webroster not working?

There aren't any options to select any armies in the 8th edition version.

Is it possible to "relay-ship" something from the UK to the US? That is, to have the online store ship the package to a company that will then ship it to me?

>>53730318
>Churchill, you say?
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/780/417230.page#5671956

Guessing Fortifications haven't been updated to 8th yet?

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>mfw Admech and AM are viable as fuck together

Yeeeees tech-thralls and punchy servitors are actually useful

>Dominus
>Lord Commissar
>2x commissars, power swords
>2x ministorum priests,
>2x units of 5 Sicarians, swords and pistols
>10 Fulgurite ravepriests
>2x units of bullgryns, slabshield and mauls
>3x units of 30 conscripts
>2x units of 3 gravaphron destroyers
>2 Onager deletcrawlers, neutron lasers or Icarus arrays

It's fucking awesome that this may even be a tourney-tier list

>>53730838
wouldn't work in palemoon for me.

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>>53730121

>>53730709
Right is a Demon Prince and the guy on the left is I think the Lord of Contagion.

>browse quickly trough the newhammer rules

No dreads in drop pods anymore.
Have to pay for basic weapons instead of atleast including those in the point costs, reducing clutter.

So many changes I don't understand. Well atleast possessed are still shit, so some stuff stays the same.

>>53730709
A pile of munitorium containers, and a rhino.

>>53730652
Not ads of war.

>>53730725
Depends what you're shooting at, one is good against hordes, the other is good against characters/vehicles/monsters.

Come on anon, this isn't surgeon rocketry.

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Reposting from /wip/

Here is the Church Raider for my Word Bearers. Finally got around and took decent pictures. Hope you guys like it.

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>>53730910
Saw this guys posts, his vehicles are amazing, and the rest of his troops were equally fantastic.

>>53730910
I don't know if I like or I hate that model.

It's original I guess

>>53730850
They're at the bottom of imperial index 2.

>>53730910
This looks great, i can see how you made it and everything fits nicely together.

>>53730850
Imperium 2

>>53730910
That's kickass. Mind posting your other stuff?

>>53730910
Saw the thumbnail and thought it would be the coolest exorcist I've ever seen. Still the coolest raider I've ever seen though. That's fucking awesome.

>>53730725
To the second part:
General concensus is that you can only reroll natural failures. This means a heavy weapon that rerolls ones, cannot reroll a natural 2.

>>53730705
Fuck that. I was going to field 100s of conscripts in 7th and i will do so in 8th. Aint my fault i was doing what would become the best strat.

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>>53730820
>Gullillilliman
>Gulillyman
>Guiltyman
>Gollygeeman

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I made something silly for a 1000 points game

Spearhead detachment
>1x Celestine 150 pts
>2x Geminae Superior 108 pts
>1x Mistress of Repentance 38 pts
>9x Repentia Squad 153 pts
>1x Sororitas Rhino 77 pts
>3x Penitent Engines 387 pts
>Total 913

>>53730954
>>53730960
Sweet, thank you.

Kinda bummed the Aegis defence line doesn't give you any bonuses considering it's 5 points more expensive than the Tau Shiedline which can protect from charges and bounce back shots to inflict mortal wounds. But eh, whatever.

>>53731016
BOB

>>53730561
>>53730746
Awesome, thanks.

>>53731021
>Geminae Superior
>108
Mate their wargear is included.
Repentia are also pretty much awful and that 153+77+38 could be better used on two actual sister units.

>>53730954
That's stupid. So to play a non-imperial army I now have to purchase the imperial codices?

>>53730725
If equal strength on P1, I'd pick the first. But considering that's almost never the case, do more Dakka for hordes and more BREEEM for vehicles.

For part 2, I'd accept either natural 1's or modified 1's, but not both. If changes to die mean 2 is a 1, then 1 is 0 and therefore doesn't benefit. You have to pick between having or eating

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>>53730820
>Gollygeeman
Best name.

I can just see Calgar standing there like Robin next him
>Gollygee wilikers Lord Guilliman, Abbaddon destroyed Cadia!

>>53730754
As many as you can afford to buy.

>>53731040
Power Sword cost 4. You still have to buy the gear for special character. Most of the time they cost 0.

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>>53731098
or you could read the (INCLUDES WARGEAR)

>>53730843
What are you wanting shipped?

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When are we going to get more Marine characters that aren't Ultramarines?

I want Xavier back.

>>53730754

The rule of thumb is 100 percent of your units being commisars and conscripts, a bit of an esoteric army comp. But I hope you can wrap your head around it

>>53731118
lol

>>53730709
i think the big one is Typhus
because it mirrors his HH pose like Kharns model does

>>53731124
Was that model dipped into acid after it was painted?

>>53731123
40k minis?

>>53731143
Dont you need an officer to at least use the FRFSRF rule?

>>53731143
>>53731076

So we're probably talking about 500-600 conscripts then.
I could get that many snap fit ones for under $900, so maybe I'll go with that.

>>53731173
What minis and why use a middle man?

>>53731173
>>53731123
Yes there are forwarding services.

But if your plan is to use a UK website that has better prices than say a US one, you're going to lose the difference and probably end up paying more thanks to the forwarding service costs.

>>53730864
>palemoon
I'm using Chrome. The 7th ed one works, but the 8th doesn't.

>>53730909
Do wounds not spill over? If I roll 6 on a d6 for the number of wounds do I only kill a single 1w model or 6 w1 models?

>>53731203
Single model unless it explicitly says otherwise(I think at least 1 weapon does, don't remember which though)

Saves are taken before damage is rolled for.

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>>53731166
No, it's a third edition metal model.

>>53730754
As many as you can afford. Grab a couple of terminator squads so that you can put their beacon death sphere down making your conscripts immune to charges. Make sure to declare them members of the Wu Tang Clan so you can mix in some other faction units if you want.

>>53731203
You roll D6 for damage, not wounds. Your weapon might rip apart a monstrous creature or 1 guardsman.

>>53731184
Yeah every tournament will just be people carrying in huge buckets of conscripts. They're going to take 3 hours just to set up

>>53730212
>redpilled
Can /pol/ please leave? Just because Britain basically elected an antisemite doesn't mean your opinion is valid

>>53730596

where can I go to make an image like this?

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>>53731248
>he doesn't use WHFB movement trays

>>53731249
It's a 40k board on 4chan. You're going to get a fuckload of people with /pol/ack views. And he was talking about lore, not real world politics.

>>53731249
>Britain basically elected an antisemite
Wait they didn't elect that bucket head guy?

>>53730705
had a game of 8th with guard today
the effectiveness of my lemons really surprised me
they dish out tons of damage with multi melta sponsons and lascannon hull mounts

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>>53731248
>what are movement trays
>what are magnets

How do you think people played rank and file wargames? Moving each model individually?

>>53731040
What makes repentias bad? With initiative gone and charging from transports they seem quite good actually.

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>>53731279
>bucket head guy doesn't run your country
>why live?

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>>53731248
>tfw buff forearms will instantly let you spot AM waacers in the near future

>>53731288

Might pick a few of those up even for my non-horde armies now given that blasts aren't a thing.

So are we shitposting about mob blobs now instead on Lascanons?

>>53731330
>AM
>Astra Militarum
>Adeptus Mechanicus
>Adeptus Ministorum

All in the same book... God fucking damn it


Also all plastic is like lifting feathers. buff forearms would be for SoB or other full metal armies.

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>>53731305
>>53731279
>bucket head guy

That's LORD Bucket Head you filthy fucking peasants.

So now that guard detachments can be taken for every Genestealer cult detachment, what's a nice non-obtrusive HQ for tax purposes?

>>53731188
>>53731200
The UK site would give me a ~33% discount, not counting any special bundles. For instance, I could get Trukk Boyz set, Start Collecting Orks, Grukk's mob, and grots for $131 (free shipping to the forwarder).

The forwarding service would have to be $75 for it not to be worth it on this specific transaction.

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>>53731330
Also that Catachan plastics look like hot dogshit,

>>53731398
If you're in the US then you can easily find 20% discounts. Where are you finding 33%?

>>53731398
You're forgetting that you're paying a conversion fee to turn Dollars into Pound Sterling.

and plenty of US online stores already offer a 25% discount with free, or fixed rate shipping, like TheWarStore

>>53731234
Look retard, your reading of Teleport Homers is not only wrong, but stupidly wrong.

>>53731297
>17 points a model for a gimped eviscerator that's only -2AP.

Oh boy a 170 point unit, or 153+38 for 9+Mistress and then a 77 point rhino on top. Wew lad, I'm sure there isn't a better way to spend 247 points.

Generally speaking the dedicated melee units to use are penitent engines and crusaders. Crusaders are vastly tougher, but weaker in combat (but can use faith for some reason) and penitents cost more, but do way more damage.

I'll take a 15 point PW/Storm shield over a dead repentia any day

Why are Inq. Acolytes so dang efficient? Buying a Storm Bolter on them for a total of 10ppm is easily one of the most efficient fire-platforms in the game, even more-so than Guardsmen/Conscripts (sans buffs, at least), and that's BEFORE Ordo-effects. And they can act as bodyguards against sniper fire?

>>53730596
Decrease the size of one of the warrior squads to swap the prime for another tervigon. One unit of warriors with cannons sits back with the biovores and endocrine to keep them in line, 2 tervigon walk up the sides with their devilgaunt brood, and the other warrior brood runs up the center with the third. Split the venomthropes into 2 units of 3 for better coverage.

Close, but looking good. Maybe drop a termagaunts unit or something for a melee tyrant/Trygon prime.

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>>53731394
Psh! I had the option of voting for Mr. Fishfinger.

Yes. He dresses as a Fishfinger. It's also his real name, thanks to deed-poll.

>>53729991
Are Edar still the primo WAAC-fag army or have orks/IG knocked them off?

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>>53731466
prepare for some GAINS

>>53731456
What about DCA.

I just want to use my Repentia models, during 7th I run them as DCA.

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>>53730910
>>53730942
>>53730947
>>53730955
>>53730969
>>53730991

Thanks! /wip/ seems dead, so ill just post here if its ok with you guys.

Chapel Rhino

What buffs do you layer on top of mass-Conscripts? Just FRFSRF?

>>53731515
Hey anon, you're a pretty cool guy

>>53730486
So, berzerker spam is a thing?

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>>53730191
>>53730294
THICC

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>>53729991
What exactly is the battlefield role of Tzaangors? Are they worth running?

What's the best way to paint a Vindicare? I left him black from the primer only painting the gun and the belt.

>>53731514
DCA are okay, but have issues getting anywhere.

They can be in a rhino, but that's costly for a 5++ unit.

They are, probably, a better choice than repentia...but die super easy as they are now 1 wound models. They also can only move 7.

>>53730465
>being this autistic
You are the scourge of these threads.

>>53731540
Chaff. You get 10 for 70pts, and they rock hilarious 5++ each.

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>>53731515
Heldrake + Spawns

>>53731566
Almost as good as 2ppm Brimstone Horrors with 4++.

>>53730347
CE are now faster than DE. Harlequins are now more H2H capable than DE. DE are the "balanced" Eldar faction this edition

>>53731560
jesus fucking christ anon this is like a textbook

>>53731538
Is it just me, or does that model look surprisingly featureless for how HUEG it is? I was going to make an Admech custom Manta at some point, but looking at that mine would have more detail on it.

I settled for a pair of custom Stormbirds in the end.

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>>53731560
>3000x3000

>>53731074
>posting pictures of dead men

>>53731560
Nice work, Anon! Formatting could be a tad clearer, though.

>>53731560
Wow. This is... actually really helpful.

>>53730425
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/True_Sons

>>53731560
How long until this shows up on Reddit?
Or is their autism focused on some other aspect of 8th?

>>53731575
wew fucking lad
that's fantastic

>>53731627
I'm not sure Reddit can read anon.

>>53731591
Manta was an early Tau model, when they were intended to be smooth and muh ergonomics, and space shuttley instead of having the superfluous decorative pipes all over them.

Most of the actual features are internals, with two hangers and a cockpit.

But yeah, for admech you'll have to rough it up a bit.

>>53731590
We have the best autists, don't we folks?

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>>53731627
I knew I forgot something.

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Something I've realized about Seraphim. Normally when you take a five model squad and four+sergeant get special weapons, you immediately start losing those special weapons when you take wounds. But Seraphim equip only two models with special weapons, and they get two each. So this somewhat balances out the fact that it's difficult to get them into range without getting shot at least once or twice, since a 5 girl squad can be reduced to 2 models and still be firing 4 melta guns after moving possibly 24" over any terrain/models next turn.

This is something that was harder to do in 7th, because the short range of seraphim special weapons required them to be in the front but wanting them to not die required them to be in the back. But now since you just always pick who dies and you can choose an extra movement for them with AoF, their ability to live long enough and make it far enough to actually use their weapons has increased. Plus if they get charged you can fire your inferno pistols or hand flamers in the melee or just fall back and fire if you still have those two models left.

Though, this doesn't particularly make hand flamers all that great, since they're still strength 3 ap 0. It's just really helps inferno pistols since melta pistols/rifles/heavy weapons are all the same profile except for range, (unless you twin multi-meltas apparently) which 24" movement makes up for easily. A retributor squad can walk 6-12" and fire four multi-meltas 24" at -1 BS, or a squad of 5 cheaper seraphim can fly 12-24" and fire 6" (if within 3", melta applies) and possibly charge. Though they might get hit by an explosion which is pretty nasty.

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>>53731668

>>53731668
10/10

>>53731575
That looks seriously fucking awesome.

>>53731668
gg

>>53731668
>also fuck reddit lol
i love this board

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>>53730191
thunderbolts and the navy VTOLs look sexy

classic lightnings, too

>>53731492
Eldar got nerfed pretty hard. New core rules don't favor them and this edition is shaping up to be built around horde armies which cwe can't do.

I think the only unit that made it through without too many issues were guardian defenders.

My 7e army (1squad of bikes, no wraithcheese, no spiders) went from 1850 points to 2599. If it had been a waac army it would have easily been past 3k.

Further, eldar lost a lot in the new indexes. eldar tanks, guardian weapon platforms, and bikes used to be able to move and fire without penalty and now suffer -1 to hit when firing heavy weapons if they moved, battle focus is worse, and getting spells off is a 50/50 Chance before deny the witch comes into play. No formations means your aspect warriors are no longer bs5 or ws5 and lose fearless.

Ig are currently looking the best beside nids.

>>53731668
Weaponized autism.

>if Strength is double the Toughness, any extra damage will spill to other models in the unit

Y/N?

>>53731684
I feel you said alot, but basically said nothing.

Also fun fact: heavy weapons only get -1 to hit if they "moved in its preceeding movement phase".
AOF movement occurs BEFORE the movement phase.

This means a unit with a MM can AoF move, then still fire at BS3+

>>53731751
What? If S is double T, then you get to wound on a 2+. That's the benefit for S=T*2. There are weapons with the special ability to do roll-over damage.

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>>53730618
>>53730465
He didn't ask for opinion on his skills, he asked if the models would work as chaos forces.

>>53731659
Well, it was going to be a low-balloon gas cell airship augmented with a shit ton of Manufactorum parts and Baneblade sponson turrets, more akin to a floating fortress than a spaceship. Main Heavy Railguns would have been Glaive Volkite Carronades, and the ion cannon would have been batteries of upgraded Storm Cannon.

Manta has surprisingly little punch for what it does. 2kpts for 72 S5 AP5 shots, some Ion Cannon and two solid D slugs/ 10" S7 AP3 blasts is really not great, even with the massive transport cap.

For once, a fucking Stormbird wing is more practical.

>>53731760
>I feel you said alot, but basically said nothing.

Kind of. It's a super simple thing that I went really into detail on, I guess. It could be summed up as "Seraphim are ten times more likely to get to use their special weapons at full power than they were before for five different reasons". If you want to know those reasons, then you can read a wall of text.

>>53731760
Retribution squad still feel better with HB.
Seraphim still work better in 8+ squads with Hand flamers.

You just don't deepstrike them and have them hide behind LoS blocking shit. Or get 50 Conscripts and make a wall for them

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>>53731668

You might want to include a section summarizing the buffs conscripts received compared to 7th.

>lower point cost
>no restrictions of taking them outside of normal FOC
>frfsrf buff
>begin able to fall back from a CC tarpit, and then return fire on them with orders
>morale working to their advantage with commissars
>everything getting wounded on a 6
>templates being removed from the game
>ect.

I think that will help drive the point home.

>>53731775
Yes, 2k points was quite a bit.

>>53731538

I find it amazing that thing weighs less than a Warhound Titan in the lore, yet is larger than one is.

>>53731668
oh no

>>53731668
You're doing the emperor's work anon

>>53731818
go ahead and add it if you want if i have to type the word conscript one more time ill shart

>>53731818
And a section pointing out how formations that would previously give other armies huge buffs to compete against this are gone now.

I'm torn between Shieldlines or Aegis lines for my infantry Tau. My theme is stealthy forest-based Kauyon so was thinking of making improvised log barricades to represent them. But I face a lot of CC armies.

Aegis: Gives me cover and is thematic but that's it. Enemy can go around it and still kick my soft blue ass.

Shieldline: Acts as a transport so I have a T6 10W CC protector I can shoot out of and sometimes inflict mortal wounds from reflected shots but makes no thematic sense for my army. Who ever heard of log barricades bouncing bullets back and moving?

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>>53731668
while rather worrisome i'm still gonna charge my bloodcrushers into them. either way, it'll be pleasing to khorne

>>53731826
well it does fly

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>>53731575
One of three melee squads

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>web roster isn't working in chrome for me

Fucking hell. Is there a setting I need to change or something?

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>>53731668
You need to have the fuck reddit on there in a hard to remove way, a big watermark across the whole thing maybe?

>>53731575
But its Gal Vorbak. And this ghosts is from AoS?

>>53731876
You should use the site I use.

https://www.online-calculator.com

Why isn't there a recording of a game using conscripts in TTS?

>>53731864

True.

Still, I find the Marauder Bomber a larger issue offender in that regard.

They call that a "super-heavy flyer", yet it only weighs 50 something tons.

That's less than a Leman Russ.

Under no circumstances is that "super-heavy" by any stretch of the imagination.

>>53730365
...

tfw you're the ultramarine player in that video.

A Storm Raven can drop off and pick up units without being in hover mode.

8th edition is shit.

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>>53731884
>/EAGG/ memes
I figured VG would be of watching e3, but here we get some koeifags and vidya planefufags in the same day.

Oh well, I can live with that.
Does the IG have have any regiments that look like feudal chinese conscripts that I can stick melee heroes in the middle of?

>>53731861
Aku would make for a great custom C'Tan. not very hard to sculpt neither.

>>53731930
numbers are often fluffed in 40k, remember how there's only 10,000 or so sisters of battle?

>>53731944
Are Storm Ravens any good? They look like they've got a reasonable amount of dakka, but I literally don't know the right options etc for 8th

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are you still able to ally in units in 8th? Because I really want to take an assassin with my CSM.

>>53731560
>that whole bit about snipers not making points back by killing commisars
A ten man scout squad kills a commisar per turn. This means that that they can both easily make their points back by the end of the game.

But that's all irrelevant, because a good player would never go after the commisar first. Rather, they would target the commander. While the commisar can prevent losses, removing a commander obliterates the effectiveness of a conscripts, as they're now just 50 lasguns that hit on a 5+ and move 6“ per turn. Only once commanders are killed would any good playeer go after the commisars, as it's more important to remove killing power than it is to kill them.

Besides that point, good job anon, that's some impressive autisic work you did

>>53731668
People play on boards with no terrain?
Disgusting.

>>53731981
T7 3+ 14 wounds.

You tell me.

>>53731897
yes it is. but I've searched far and wide for fitting spawns, that arent just flailing arms on a rack of meat. I liked the idea of the posessing demon leaving the host to fight along.

>>53731811
Yes, because a MM costs 27 pts on a 9pt model. While a HB costs 10.

>>53731865
I SEE A FALLEN

>>53731991
They need a common faction keyword. So no, Chaos can't have assassins.

>>53731979

True.

Though it really says something about their efficiency if they could defend Ecclesiarchal interests with only 10,000 members.

>>53731957
I'm just using it as a general chuckleshits image, but feudal Chinese troops or Japanese ashigaru IG sounds interesting.

>>53731995
see top right

How are base sizes working now? Since we have auras can I put my chaos lord on Magnus's base and say that's his base so the aura comes from the entire thing?

>>53732046
That would be Modelling for advantage and people won't play against you

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>>53731844

Here is my humble update with a quick reference list of buffs to conscripts in 8th edition.
Anyone feel free to make additions/corrections/updates as you see fit.

>>53732046
>Commissars and Officer suddenly in Magnus bases
Most playtested edition ever guys!

I'm sure now that the supposed tournament players they test it with (if any) just netlisted they way to tournaments

>>53730064
faux-Macharius is the only one that looks okay, but this is basically telling me GW needs to just kill the Russ and start from scratch.

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>>53732009
There are no Fallen inside the Word Bearers. Anyone who chooses to leave his twice disloyal legionchapter to join our cause is welcome to do so and will be treated as an equal.
>>53731865
Squad 2

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>>53731998
Yes? No? I don't remember the points value or total cost with weapons either

>>53732068
Think you need to get a brief gestalt on what an infographic is m8, put your essay in a pdf if you want people to read it.

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>>53732068

whoops, fixed a typo!
Here you go everyone.

Are there any Sikh/Hindi subfactions?

>>53731395
Lord commissar for your conscripts

Soo what are the thoughts on primaris ruleswise?

They seem kinda weak to me, a lot of points spent on multiwound dudes (in an edition full of weapons that do 1+ dmg) that dont do a lot of damage (they basically have a -1 ap bolter, wew). The sergeant with the assault bolter is pretty meh too - it does 2 damage but loses the -1 ap for some reason.

Soo are they making them weak on purpose so that people dont freak out and then later when the codex comes out, thats when theyll go crazy?

New guy who just bought the SC box of tyranids.
Shooty tyrant or melee tyrant?

>>53731538

tau flier wise the cudas look kinda cool

>>53731775

I wonder what its new stats will be

>>53732077
Any playtesting is more than no playtesting like earlier editions.

>>53732116
YOU CAN MAKE ANY FUCKING GUARDSMEN YOU PLEASE.

>>53732126
melee, the time of assault is now

>>53732102

I'm not the one who made the original.
I just added the last bit with the quick reference section at the end to help out.

Feel free to make a more compact version of your own if you want to though. I'm sure people would find it helpful.

>>53732099
They are so HORNy

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>>53732099
>Anyone who chooses to leave his twice disloyal legionchapter to join our cause is welcome to do so and will be treated as an equal.

Absolutely heretical

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>>53732036
>Japanese ashigaru IG

>>53732136
Then should the warriors go melee or support with shooty?
Thanks in advance?

>>53732126
2 slimer maggots and a pair of boneswords.

FHT can be charged even in the air because GW is shit at design and Lore

>>53732123
They're more alternative marines than replacement marines. Primarks are gonna be a bitch to balance because they can't make them straight up better than manlets without people kicking off and quitting rather than replacing an entire collection

>>53732156
Ahahhahaha this looks so forced

>>53732021
>if they could defend Ecclesiarchal interests with only 10,000 members
They can't. Their fluff consists entirely of them getting BTFO

>>53731930
do you have special needs ?
irl a b17 weighs 16 tons without load ,
a t34-85 weighs more than double at 35 tons
tanks are a lot heavier than planes because they don't need to fucking fly

>>53732134
Oh for sure. I'm just wondering if there's any subfactions in any of the main factions before I go making my own

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Are necrons *really* broken in 8th? Or is it just people assuming things from theorycrafting.

I started a necron army based only on looks of minis and ease of painting, but i'm afraid people are going to be snide for picking a power army or some shet.

>>53732168
And smeared on grey knights

>>53732170

My point is that it shouldn't be "super-heavy" when it clearly isn't weight wise.

>>53732136
Yeah the age of assault when you can just fall back without penalty and get shot by the rest of the army.

Good try though.

>>53732172
Generally not. Give them catachan rules.

>>53732167
http://koei.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Nobunaga_no_Yabou_201X_Images

>>53732180
Warriors are gonna be fucking nuts, take two blocks of 20 and laugh your way across the board

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>>53732068
Fixed

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>>53732200

>>53732180
>>53732198
+ Cryptek

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>>53730365
>mfw battletech

>>53732180
people will be grateful that u play crons cause you picked a faction that isnt fucking spess marens

>>53731811
>hide them behind conscripts
>no target priority
>i shoot your Seraphim

>>53732194
My sides are in orbit

>>53730405
You too good for Battlereps or are you some twelve year old contrarian?

>>53732180
>Take block of 20 warriors
>Bring along a Cryptek and Ghost Ark
Your warriors now have a 4+ RP roll which they get to make twice a turn. Have fun with 75% of your dead just standing back up every turn until the entire unit is wiped or they manage to take out the Cryptek/Ghost Ark.

>Have leaked Index
>Only page I need is missing
Anyone have the Custodes pages?

>>53732228
Yeah thats what most people around here play, or some variation of them. Only one eldar player and one ork player consistently out of a dozen MEQs

>>53732228
Yep, after all, everyone else needs a punching bag to test their latest army list on.

>>53732223
The Cryotek is what breaks them but it's not even needed for casual play, they're mad enough without it

>>53732170
The largest plane of WW2 was over a hundred tons when loaded for bombing. The later H-4 Hercules was 200 tons. Both of those are heavier than almost all tanks, I'm pretty sure. A few that are called super-heavy might be up there, but even the maus was under 200 tons.

WW2 didn't have forgeworlds, either.

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>>53732332
>1939-1945
top kek
inb4 angery plebbit "go back to /pol/" tards

Why can't I take 2 plasma pistols for my CSM squads? I can take 2 specials, but openly one pistol because reasons.

>>53732180
I've been told by someone who played Necrons yesterday that the real pain is Reanimation Protocols bringing multiwound models back with full wounds. Your basic successful RP with a warrior is worth one wound, but bringing back a destroyer is three. It can make your attacks feel pretty useless. Obviously it fits the fluff pretty damn well, but I expect there will be a considerable number of complaints.

>>53731993
This counterstrategy actually forms the crux of my Imperial Guard Army plan for fighting non-melee enemies:

3 tanks/tauroxes spaced evenly down the battle line, with the characters behind them (Because Leman Russ HUGE!) and the infantry troops spread between them.

Cowardly commissars are the crux of conscript combat doctrine! Even if I don't actually have any conscripts in my army.

>>53732332
You forgot the fuck reddit bit unless you hid it somewhere and I just can't see it.

>>53731586
Battle focus makes them faster, I guess, but Dark Eldar have equal or further movement on just about everything, including jetbikes.

>>53730820
Aren't inceptors only squads of 3?

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>>53731462
May I ask where you're getting these suggestions? Is this configuration better than the swarmlord/genestealer slingshot?

>>53730042
I unironically love Jewish Rules Lawyer anon. A least he knows exactly what he is and what he's doing. The insufferable cunts that unironically try to argue that you can park fliers on top of models and such should be crucified and their assets should be given to JRL anon.

>>53731016
is this supposed to be SoB meryl or something

>>53731855
Just do some fading stealth camo painting on the shield wall

>>53732390

it is dumb though that your jets kill themselves if the enemy brings enough conscripts

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>>53731668
>>53731884
9000 hours in MSpaint

Spread this one, delete the original.

>>53732188
it isn't a super heavy
it's a super heavy flyer
>>53732327
the marauder is a four engine bomber with 3 ball turrets not a fucking huge plane , and it still weighs 41 tonnes empty according to the wiki that's 10 tonnes more than a b29's empty weight or 5 more than a tu-4's for fucks sake , and proportion wise it's a lot smaller than those things

>>53732369

The 4chan logo was basically an indirect "fuck reddit"
Feel free to add it if you want though.
As a shareholder in 4chan™ LTD LLC and a partial owner of its registered trademarks, you can of course use this image for any lawful business purposes.

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>>53732390
literally who the fuck is this Jewish Rules Lawyer anon
archive says this is the first ever instance of the name being used
searching up the MD5 AND the filename only shows it being used 3 times, the 2nd and 3rd of which are identical

this is either some serious samefagging or I missed something

>>53732454
Could you superimpose that text over the one this guy made?
>>53732332
It seems like the most complete version.
I'd do it myself, but I gotta leave really soon.

>>53732390
I've always felt that the rule that disallows you from parking fliers on top of models is just there because of the medium being tabletop wargaming with real, physical models and no one wants their shit to break. It doesn't actually make any sense, in 40k's universe or ours, that a bomber will explode from just flying over too many infantry because it can't find a clear spot to put it's shadow.

But I mostly just play on tabletop simulator so we can lock aircraft in the air and leave them there until their turn and not give a fuck.

>>53732422
There's a lot of just dumb shit in 8th edition.

>>53732188
"super heavy" is a weight CLASS

Not a static weight.

Super-Heavy flyer is a particular weight band that is absolutely not the same weight band as super-heavy tank, super-heavy american, and super-heavy boxer, etc.

>go to gw
>one of the guys there is on google sheets putting information from the books in
I'm onto you

>>53732454
The fuck reddit spam just makes people look so assblasted it backfires. Instead of pissing them off it's just going to make them laugh at how autisticly tribal people are.

>>53732494
Personally I have no problem with it as long as you let my men move over you're flyer's base to charge the enemies on the other side. Frankily its one of those "Discuss with opponent" deals.