/hwg/ - Historical Wargames General

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>Advanced Squad Leader
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/d9x0dbxrpjg48/Advanced_Squad_Leader
>Battleground WWII
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cb83cg7ays4l1/Battleground_WWII
>Battlegroup
https://mega.nz/#F!SolyxarJ!GUg6zWBStfznr6BvYedghQ
>Black Powder
http://www.mediafire.com/download/o5x6blwoczojmfr/Black+Powder.pdf
>Bolt Action
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/n7jmdnlv1n0ju/Bolt_Action
>By Fire And Sword
https://mega.co.nz/#!jxgCWTYD!FCp52DAqIUc-EM-TsRsWv7fB92nJ3kkzKsNcD_urI5Q
>Fleet Series
https://mega.nz/#F!i1N3xZxL!C6fQ3Z8o2U0gtk5kdXuVcQ
>Hail Caesar
https://mega.nz/#F!XsVD0KgT!twB1NWiFE3aKXK_O1EZ4pA
>Impetus
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/28i9gevqws518/Impetus
>Modelling & painting guides
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7b5027l7oaz05/Modelling_%26_Painting_Guides
>Next War (GMT)
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/eupungrg93xgb/Next_War
>Phoenix Command RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!b5tgXRwa!mzelRNrKPjiT8gP7VrS-Jw
>Saga
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/alj31go19tmpm/SAGA
>Twilight 2000/2013 RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!C9sQhbwb!NVnD4jvUn5inOrPJIAkBhA
>Wargaming Compendium
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cghxf3475qy46aq/Wargaming+Compendium.pdf
>Warhammer Ancient battles 2.0
http://www.mediafire.com/download/uttov32riixm9b0/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+2E.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ta7aj1erh7sap1t/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+-+Armies+of+Antiquity+v2.pdf
>Warhammer Historical
https://mega.nz/#F!LxkElYYY!FJB5miNmlWZKMj2VfSYdxg
>Warmaster Ancients
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cifld8bl3uy2i5g/Warmaster+Ancients.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/3emyvka11bnna1b/Warmaster+Ancient+Armies.pdf

Desired scans :
Rank and File supplements
Harpoon 3 & 4 supplements
Force on Force supplements
Hind Commander
At Close Quarters
War and Conquest
Modern Spearhead

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June the 9th in military history:

721 – Odo of Aquitaine defeats the Moors in the Battle of Toulouse.
1667 – Second Anglo-Dutch War: The Raid on the Medway by the Dutch fleet begins. It lasts for five days and results in the worst ever defeat of the Royal Navy.
1762 – British forces begin the Siege of Havana and capture the city during the Seven Years' War.
1772 – The British schooner Gaspee is burned off the coast of Rhode Island.
1798 – Irish Rebellion of 1798: Battle of Arklow and Battle of Saintfield.
1815 – End of the Congress of Vienna: the new European political situation is set. Also, Luxembourg declares independence from the French Empire.
1862 – American Civil War: Stonewall Jackson concludes his successful Shenandoah Valley Campaign with a victory in the Battle of Port Republic; his tactics during the campaign are now studied by militaries around the world.
1863 – American Civil War: Battle of Brandy Station, Virginia.
1923 – Bulgaria's military takes over the government in a coup.
1944 – World War II: 99 civilians are hanged from lampposts and balconies by German troops in Tulle, France, in reprisal for maquisards attacks.
1944 – World War II: the Soviet Union invades East Karelia and the previously Finnish part of Karelia, occupied by Finland since 1941.
1959 – The USS George Washington is launched. It is the first submarine to carry ballistic missiles.
1965 – Vietnam War: The Viet Cong commences combat with the Army of the Republic of Vietnam in the Battle of Đồng Xoài, one of the largest battles in the war.
1967 – Six-Day War: Israel captures the Golan Heights from Syria
1999 – Kosovo War: the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and NATO sign a peace treaty.

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Todat marks 350 years since the Raid on the Medway, a successful Dutch attack on the largest English naval ships, laid up in the dockyards of their main naval base Chatham, that took place during the Second Anglo-Dutch War. The Dutch, under nominal command of Admiral de Ruyter, bombarded and then captured the town of Sheerness, sailed up the River Thames to Gravesend, then up the River Medway to Chatham, where they burned three capital ships and ten lesser naval vessels and towed away the Unity and the Royal Charles, pride and normal flagship of the English fleet. The raid led to a quick end to the war and a favourable peace for the Dutch. It was one of the worst defeats in the Royal Navy's history, and one of the worst suffered by the British military.

The Dutch had slowly built up the strength of their fleet at sea. A relatively small fleet sailed north to raid Scotland before returning south, and by 4 June a fleet of 54 ships of the line was off the Thames. This increased to sixty four on 6 June, and finally, on 7 June, de Ruyter arrived with the rest of the fleet.

The Medway was very poorly defended in the summer of 1667. A strong iron chain supported by pontoons had been stretched across the river at Gillingham, and thirty pinnaces were available to fend off fireships. Only on 12 June, by which time the Dutch were already in the Medway, was George Monck ordered to build a gun battery at Gillingham.

De Ruyter decided to send a small squadron up the Thames as far as Northfleet Hope, at Tilbury. This squadron would then turn back and sail into the Medway, where it would attack British shipping and if possible seize the defences of Sheerness. Lieutenant-Admiral Van Ghent was given command of the squadron, which contained seventeen men-of-war of between 60 and 36 guns, most of the ten fireships in the fleet and all of the smaller galliots.

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>>53719271
The Dutch attack began in 9 June, when Van Ghent made slow progress up the Thames against a south-westerly wind. The wind prevented the Dutch from attacking some British ships in the Hope and at Gravesend, and on the night of 9-10 June Van Ghent moored just below Gravesend.

On 10 June the Dutch entered the Medway and captured the fort at Sheerness. Charles II responded by sending George Monck, duke of Albemarle, to Kent to organise a defence. Only now was the iron chain put in place at Gillingham, and a small gun battery built at each end while the Unity was posted just below the chain.

The crucial moment came on 12 June when the Dutch reached the chain. The Vrede, under Captain Jan van Brakel, and with two fireships in support, led the attack. While the Vrede attacked and captured the Unity, the fireships attacked and broke the chain. One then destroyed the British guardship Matthias. Van Brakel then went on to capture the Charles V, and used her guns against the British coastal batteries.

The rest of the British fleet in the Medway was now virtually defenceless. The Royal Charles was quickly captured, and began Van Ghent's flagship for the day, before being towed across the Channel (as was the Unity). The Monmouth was also burnt during the day.

On 13 June the Dutch pushed further up the Medway. Although Upnor Castle and a battery on the opposite bank offered more resistance, the Dutch were still able to burn the Royal Oak, the Loyal London and the Old James, while a larger number of ships were forced to run aground to save themselves.

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>>53719291
On 14 June, with most of his fireships gone, De Ruyter withdrew from the Medway and moored close to Queenborough, before moved into the mouth of the Thames. For a short period London was blockaded, and everything that normally arrived by sea was quickly in short supply (the price of coal rose from 15s to 140s per ton). De Ruyter considered mounting an attack up the Thames towards London, but a combination of improving British defences and the non-appearance of a French fleet forced him to abandon that plan. Finally, at the start of July, de Ruyter left the Thames and entered the Channel. An attack on Landguard Fort (2 July 1667) failed, ending a plan to attack Harwich.

The Dutch victory in the Medway forced Charles II to take the peace negotiations more seriously, and within a few weeks the war came to an end (Treaty of Breda, 31 July 1667). The Navigation Acts were modified to allow Dutch and German goods to enter Britain in Dutch ships, and most colonies taken during the war were returned, although the Dutch kept Surinam and Britain kept New York and New Jersey.

On 14 December 1941 the Dutch minelayer Jan van Brakel, which was serving as a convoy escort on the UK eastern coast, accidentally hit the anchor buoy of one of the gate vessels which were protecting the entrance to the Medway during WWII. The commander reported this incident to the port authorities, signalling: "Van Brakel damaged boom defence Medway". The instant reply was: "What, again?".

This was the Pearl Harbour of its day, and is a great campaign for naval wargamers. It also has skirmishing possibilities with the shore raids, or even a larger invasion if you like to take the alternate historical route.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/9tkc3bk8c6t99l9/Osprey+-+MAA+267+-+The+British+Army+1660-1704.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/1v1im9gulyjmzzg/Osprey+-+NVA+183+-+Warships+of+the+Anglo-Dutch+Wars+1652%E2%80%9374.pdf

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>>53715853
>Are there 28mm miniatures for cold war/modern South Africans or white mercenaries?

Eureka do great 28mm Rhodesians
Britannia Miniatures do a slightly less good but still nice 28mm Congo set

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Bump till everyone finds the thread

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Bolt Action campaign update - June 1940. (Reposting from last night for those who care, with added links.

The first year of the war consisted of relatively little fighting - while Leningrad changed hands twice as the Finns and Soviets fought over it, by June it was once again in Finnish hands. Britain has absorbed Spain and France and is moving on Italy, while the Germans have taken Austria, Hungary, and Poland. Finland has taken the entirety of Scandinavia while the Soviets have secured most of their cities.

(The British and German players both forgot their pins today, so Britain used the White spares and Germany the Orange.)

This is the set of campaign rules we're using

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1i8uFRqfB0zzFi993U7Piu_ufbXggAq3hmZHrWPVKsd8/edit?usp=sharing

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>>53720496
angled look should make it easier to see

Kriegspielanon here, I guess I'll just roll for periods and the folks that participate decide the scale of operations.

Periods:
>0 - Ancient (10000 BC to 900 BC
>1 - Classical (900 BC to 476 AD)
>2 - Early Medieval (476 AD to 1066 AD)
>3 - Late Medieval (1066 AD to 1494 AD)
>4 - Pike and Shot (1494 AD to 1714 AD)
>5 - Horse and Musket (1714 AD to 1821 AD)
>6 - Rifle and Sabre (1821 AD to 1914 AD)
>7 - World War 1/Machine Age (1914 to 1936)
>8 - World War 2 (1936 to 1945)
>9 - Modern (1945 to present day)

Seriously, I'm taking people for the game if you guys want to join, I'll be the umpire.

>>53721171
So I reckon we're going with the Classical period in here, what with the campaigns of Cyrus, Darius, Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, Augustus Caesar and basically all great strategists and conquerors of that era.

Rolled 1 (1d10)

>>53721171
Why not just...

If I roll a 10 it's a zero

>>53721171
>>53721358

Classical it is.

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>53715415
>53712757

>Fear God and Dread Naught

Man, anyone can just drop their farts on the 'net these days ... here's mine. (work in progress, obviously)

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>>53723524
COOL STUFF

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>>53723560
That's the Cambrai table Great War Miniatures put on at Partizan last month, it looked fantastic but I think it was more of a display than an actual game

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Bump with leaked research for new bolt action game.

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Firelock Games have released more information about their Blood & Plunder Kickstarter:
http://www.firelockgames.com/blood-plunder-no-peace-beyond-line-press-release/

The short of it:
-Launches on June 21st
-The expansion book will contain rules for campaigns and larger games, new scenarios and special rules as well as new nations and updates for old nations.
-Dutch (how suitable, with Medway so close, B&P would be kind of suitable to play out one of those minor raids)
-Caribs (because crazy awesome natives, not quite as vulnerable as one would think)
-More regular troops, with cavalry, artillery and gun crews (useable by all the current nations, and probably the dutch)
-Sailor reinforcements, with all kinds of ships crews with different weapons (useable by all the current nations, and probably the dutch)
-New ships: a humongous galleon, a dutch Fluyt and a native Piragua (happily used by pirates ad buccaneers as well)
-The kickstarter exclusive sculpt will be of a female sailor

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Footsore have released a little batch of nice VBCW minis to go with their existing range.

>>53724869
> this triggers the /k/ommando

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>>53725186
Very nice
I like how the recent BA:Sea Lion book seems to have inspired a new spurt of VBCW interest, it was essentially a de facto supplement for it after all

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From the Perry Bros "Alexandria 1801" display at Partizan

>>53726359
Perry makes 15mm Napoleonics? I had no idea.

>>53726438
Those are 28mm.

>>53726447
Oh. Is that board just huge or have I finally lost my faculties?

>>53726472
looks like a 6x4 or 8x4 made up of 2x2 sections, going by >>53726369

>>53726472
Huge board, photo taken from far aways, I guess.

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>>53726472
You might very well think that, anon
I couldn't possibly comment

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>>53726472
It was a pretty big board

>>53726586
for u

Since this is half price I might get one, has anybody bought the kit?

https://store.warlordgames.com/products/wrecked-house

>>53726904
No, but its actually just a reboxed 1:72 kit by italeri and can only assembled in one way.

Get the ruined farmhouse instead. Its a way better kit.

>>53726794
For me too.

>>53726472
>Perry Bros
While it says it's a display, they do play on ridiculously huge tables with thousands of 28mm figures. per brigade.

>>53729344
> "Gaming in 28mm sucks because you need ridiculously large tables and tons of models to really get a proper battle"
> Perry Bros: "Hold our beers"

Of course, Michael often needs people to hold stuff for him anyway.

I feel bad for making this joke.

>>53729427
Fuck that guy, the shit he painted and the green knight he sculpted right afterwards means he needs no sympathy, just praise.

Still, that guy who plays 54mm in a 1000' square patch of the outdoors for months at a time still wins for large-scale stuff. IIRC he doesn't camo the tanks or anything, the natural weathering does that and he just touches it up over the winter season.

>>53729473
They make good stuff. Still, 28mm is still too big for usual casuals to get a big battle going.

>>53728733
Winter tables are always so sexy.

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I'm looking for a figure of Napoleon Bonaparte in 28mm, or any of the marshals for that matter. I can only find Warlords super expensive one and Perrys. Are there any other?
Also, if you know any where he's wearing his Egyptian uniform I'd be set for life.

>>53730524
A year ago you got one from warlord for free if you ordered something during some kind of holiday. Not sure if that was the regular mini or a special one.

>>53730555
I might be mistaken but it seems to be the figure from the Berlin Carriage box. It's 32 quid and while it's awesome, I'll pass on that.
Do you know if that offer will be up anytime soon? Was it only last summer or has it been another offer like it? Would they be able to sell it separately if I email and ask nicely?

>>53730586
>Would they be able to sell it separately if I email and ask nicely?
I was so glad to read this at the end of your post, because I was already just itching to post "JUST EMAIL THEM AND ASK NICELY IF THEY'LL SELL YOU ONE."

A lot of people on the internet would rather ask random other people on random forums rather than actually email the bloody company, and a lot of them (especially small ones) are just a bunch of nerds who will reply and maybe even ask you what your project is.

>>53730586
here is the old news for that mini:

http://www.warlordgames.com/free-napoleon-bonaparte-figure/

>Would they be able to sell it separately if I email and ask nicely?

I guess there is only one way to find out..

Has anyone played the Funny Little Wars rules, or the Funny Little Campaigns stuff?

Or, from a different author entirely, Little Cold Wars?

The latter's cheap enough that I might pick it up, but the former's really rather expensive, so I haven't a clue.

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>>53730611
>>53730626
Fair enough.

>>53730669
Where are you from Anon? I have that mini primed since i got it in 2015 and i can't see myself painting it until 2050.

>>53730707
Sweden

>>53730756
I could send you the mini for approx. 1,50€ in a padded envelope.
Drop me a mail if you're interested.
[email protected]

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>>53730818
inb4 dox :)

>>53730524
>http://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=8682

Here you go famalangadingdong.

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>>53731115
Cool, then I'll have one of each.

I want to make a crashed plane terrain piece for Bolt Action. Anyone know any good sources of WW2 model planes in roughly the right scale? A German plane would probably be best.

>>53732891
Side note: Would 1/48 scale look right? That seems to be really popular

>>53732987
It would most likely be "close enough". Bolt Action/28mm is 1/56, so it's not too far off.

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>>53721498
6mm

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Lads not to be a pain in the arse but the OP for this thread is ridiculous.

Is there anyway we can make it more concise so it all fits in the OP?

>>53733377
Well all the folder links could be put into one pastebin, that'd seem like it would cut down the OP by a bit.

>>53733377
>>53733435
This is /hwg/ you are lucky you don't have to post a letter to us asking for links.

>>53733980
Speaking of links, anyone has a pdf of Chris Peers' "Tremble Ye Tyrants"?

>>53732891
There are plenty of kits in 1/48 available and if its crashed the exact dimensions are not really noticeable. Its just a couple of mm anyway.
I recommend looking at Revell, Airfix and maybe Tamiya first since these three offer very basic 1/48 planes for around 15€ whereas other (extremely detailed) kits might cost 30-50.

>>53733073
Since Warlords minis are heroic and not true to their claimed scale 1/48 is in fact a better fit than 1/56.
The weapons inside newer infantry boxes are even bigger than 1/48 weapons.

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Okay anons, help me out, what should I assemble tomorrow. Options:
>PST PT-76 for NVA
>Esci/Italeri M4A1 for 8th Army
>fix two Airfix Shermans for the US Paras
The last option seems like the least appealing at the moment. Also, have some 1:72 Chindits.

>>53721498
Classical is fine for me (the anon who replied before) although I still wish to stress time constraints being a potential issue if we find another person to participate. Did you want an email address? Because I could maybe convince some non-4chan chaps to get in on it.

>>53721498
>>53734684
Also, you intended to use 'free-kriegsspiel' yeah?

>>53734684
I reckon an email address will be alright, but I reckon we'll need another person.

And yes, I'll be using Free Kriegspiel because of its simplicity.

>>53733980

Well it's just so other people can make new threads more easily.

>>53724869
This has to be ESL right? There's no other way someone is this bad at explaining something.

>>53735606
Carolyn McCarthy did it

>>53726586
Damn looks like a good time.

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>>53726586

I wouldn't mind meeting the Perry brothers after decades of them feeding my plastic addiction.

I'd have a few choice words for them...

...such as when are we getting 28mm plastic married and unmarried Zulu warriors?

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>>53730524
http://www.cpmodelsminiatures.co.uk/CP%20MODELS%2028MM%20HISTORICAL%20PERSONALITIES.htm

I own then, anon, and the are fantastic.

>>53738041

My fault, correction: I own them, anon, and they are fantastic.

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ANZAC force advance against dug in japanese troops 1945 in one of the games at my ASL group today

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>>53734348
>>53733073
Picked up one of those cheap kits from my local craft store. I was hoping for a German plane, but they only had American ones, so I went with the P-40

>>53734684
>>53734743
>>53734816

I'm interested, but have to warn you: these three posts are middle-of-the-night where I live, so: timezone issues.

>>53721498
>>53734684
>>53734743
>>53739047
I'm also interested. Do you think we could set up a discord room for this? Would be nice to have something more accessible than this thread. Also, how will playing it work?

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>>53726496

underrated

>>53739779

>discord room
>for kriegsspiel

We'd need two, then - one for each team.
E-mail works best, IMHO - since I guess there'll be several sessions before the game is done.

>>53740467
You can create channels in a discord server bound to specific roles. For example, a channel named #persian and one named #roman, and set it so that only the Persians and Romans can access their respective channels, but both teams could access any other channels. Obviously the referee can see both.

>>53740467
>>53740575
Honestly both could work, I reckon a Discord one could be far easier to manage.

>>53737018
They had the greens at Salute, plus Warlord already does them.

>>53734440
I've got some 28mm Chindits for Bolt Action to put together and paint, but I'm looking forward to doing them.

I'd go for the M4A1.

>>53742399
Well, I eventually went with the Sherman. I'll need to get a one set new, as I have one where assembly is started, one with parts missing, and a third one only for spare parts. Will be enough for two Shermans and maybe a blown up one.

Aventine Miniatures has written that they plan on making Byzantine Romans to oppose their Sassanids but what kind of Byzantines can we expect? The typical late Romans or perhaps Belisarius troops?

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>>53720496

That is an excellent idea, i was thinking about organising something similiar to what you were doing. Those rules will sure be handy when i modify them.

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>In 1950 the former mechanic Václav Uhlík from Líně in the Czech Republic found the wreck of an RR-7 artillery tractor. He repaired and rebuilt the machine as an armoured carrier. On 25 July 1953 he got through three border zones including wire obstacles, and penetrated thirty kilometres into West German territory. There he applied for asylum and emigrated to the United States, where the machine was exhibited as the "freedom tank" (Czech: tank svobody). Today it is owned by a private collector.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SdKfz_254

>>53741425

Yeah but Warlord and Perry have a few differences, Warlord are a bit more heroic scale.

>>53744569
Good thing they were done along with Empress. Have you checked them at least?

>>53744443
Sounds like a fun mini-scenario. 1 freedom tank vs random minefields and border guards

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No-one does pike & shot like the League Of Augsburg

Anyone got any AARs of Chevauchee? I want to pick it up but I have no idea how it plays.

>>53745819
If you can look back through past /hwg/s on an archive site, someone posted some a while back.

>>53744590

I have but I'm doing Rorke's Drift so I only need regulars and married/unmarried Zulu's.

>>53745667
HELA STOCKHOLM SER MIG KRÖNAS

>>53745819

There was a great series of posts on one campaign like >>53748785 remembers. "Shit Roost" was the name, IIRC. The term referred to one of the fortified border towers.

It was months ago though and I'm not sure how far back the archives go.

>>53745667
>you see them olaf? casuals. all of them.

>>53734684
>>53739047
>>53739779

I've set up the Discord server for this attempt at Kriegsspiel over at https://discord.gg/Je4JraE, I think we can get this running quite well.

I'm thinking of playing Five Men at Kursk in an alternate WW2 setting I'm making. Any ideas for how to spice it up? I'm not a history buff. I was thinking of making the UK a very religious faction sort of like the old Knights Templar.

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>>53742431
Update: the one with the assembly started went together nicely, had barely any problems with it, added a Hasegawa commander with a HaT head, but the second one...fucking Christ, it sucked. I had a spare Italeri or Esci rubber trackat hand, but ultimately jumped into my graveyard box to get Airfix tracks. Airfix! Bloody hell now...

Pic unrelated.

>>53750514
Here's how: read up on the actual history. Realise it's more than good enough. Skip the "alternate" part, it's enough that battles might go differently.

>>53750514
>I was thinking of making the UK a very religious faction sort of like the old Knights Templar.
But the UK isn't really a very religious country.

>>53750514

You need to know actual history before you can even attempt to make an alternate history that isn't utter shit.

>>making the UK a very religious faction sort of like the old Knights Templar.

And that's a perfect example of what I'm talking about.

Is there any game about the Three Kingdoms of Korea?

>>53745595
> Sexy pikes
> Colourful uniforms and flags
> TRICORNS

I agree.

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So the plane isn't painted yet but I'm really happy with how the ground came out. Crashed P-40 for Bolt Action

>>53751181
>>53751192
Yeah this is why I asked, I was wondering if you guys could tell me some cool ideas that make sense. My gf doesn't really like historical stuff at all so I'm trying to spice it up a bit, even if it's a little unrealistic.

>>53751567
The more recent the divergence is, the easier it is to make sense. Like if you're doing alternate WW2, diverging in 1917 is a lot easier than diverging in 1617

>>53751663
thats because the more recent the divergence the smaller the difference to actual history.

>>53745595
>>53745603
>>53745621
>>53745637
>>53745650
>>53745667
>>53745684

What battle is this emulating?

>>53751567
Well for a start you could choose one of the more religious nations. Pre-nazi/fascist/Communist Germany, Italy and would be better ideas. Just change the nature of the revolutions/whatevers.

But yeah, the church in England is much more community than canon.

>>53751663
Yeah I was thinking maybe the divergence could start after a global nuclear winter or something, and after such a drastic fuck up all the nations react in different ways, altering somehow. The issue I'm having is figuring out semi realistic consequences and developments after such an event

>>53751567
Hostilities break out with France and Britain before WW1 (which was a real possibility) over the colonies, get buttfucked from two sides, post-WW2 Germany situation occurs with half of France being British territory, the other half German, no Treaty of Versailles occurs, Spanish Civil War sees more intervention from Great Britain and less from Germany...

This is all just playing with ideas, mind you. Pick one even that could have been different, and then build from that.

>>53751757
Germany, Italy, and Russia.

Also as a sidenote, if the axis won WWII, the Ottoman Empire is still a player of any worth, also good for neo-jannisaries or whatever.

>>53751757
Thanks I'll take that into consideration. I really wanted to have one of the armies have a religious bend to it.
>>53751769
Yeah this is probably the best way to go about it. I guess I'll go do some research about WW2 and figure out what could have gone differently and how.

>>53751567
>My gf doesn't really like historical stuff at all

Then find an adult to play with.

>>53751781
Fuck I'm tired and bad at this.
Central Powers won WWI

>>53751799
We're both 20. I've never played historical stuff myself and I'm new to wargaming. I've always loved alternate history stuff and wanted to try my own hand at it.

>>53751796
Militant Buddhists invade China in cahoots with the Japs.

>>53751818
On the off chance, whereabouts are you in the world?

>>53751567
>My gf doesn't really like historical stuff at all so I'm trying to spice it up a bit
How is a "new" history that she is completely unfamiliar with going to help this?

Unless she is one of the retards who refuses to like history because something that happened is inherently less interesting than something invented by a man at a keyboard with a poor understanding of causality and a fetish for some strange brand of hat and uniform which this history revision TOTALLY makes it make sense to see lots of.

>>53751855
Let's be fair, no matter the gender, they're definitely in a majority in the younger western world

>>53751853
Canada. I'm more into Germany, though.
>>53751855
I was hoping to alter the history in such a way that it sort of leans toward a post apocalyptic setting somehow. Why are you so upset? You've never enjoyed an alternate history setting in a movie or something?

>>53751896
>it sort of leans toward a post apocalyptic setting somehow
Fancy weird world war? Secrets of the Third Reich has some pretty fun stuff.

>>53751888
I didn't intend at all to imply this was a gendered phenomenon.

>>53751896
>Why are you so upset? You've never enjoyed an alternate history setting in a movie or something?
I didn't say that. I've never understood why people are completely able to say they hate all history, but you put some wacky alternate history shit which is usually fairly implausable and suddenly people are all over it.

>>53751917
Yeah I was also looking at the Weird War thing for Bolt Action, but it seems a little goofy and I would rather play a skirmish game like Five Men at Kursk.
If you guys think I should take this to another thread just let me know, I'm not trying to detail historical discussion, just thought you guys might like brainstorming a setting with me.
>>53751937
I don't hate history. But I do like alternate history stuff as a sort of thought experiment. I've always thought it was really cool to imagine how small differences in history could have a sort of butterfly effect on the future, and WW2 had a lot of things that could have gone differently

>>53751966
Derail* not detail, sorry I'm on mobile

>>53751966
>WW2 had a lot of things that could have gone differently
Like no Dieppe raid, thus no previous experience on shore landing, getting BTFO'd back into the sea, forced to negotiate terms of peace while the Soviets doing whatever the fuck Soviets do?

>>53751937
Me neither, I was correcting my own thoughts rather than the actual conversation. Apologies.

>>53751997
Yeah exactly, just small details like that can have huge implications as you all know

>>53751997
Seems really unlikely. Even if D-Day went bad, the Allies would just come through Italy. Might delay things but there's no way the Western Allies would've accepted a peace.

>>53751211
>Is there any game about the Three Kingdoms of Korea?
Field of Glory off the top of my head. I'm surprised there's a miniature range for them considering how niche the period is.
http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/three-kingdoms-korean.html

>>53751796
>I guess I'll go do some research about WW2 and figure out what could have gone differently and how.

Quit fixating on WW2. By the time it or anything like it begins, the sides & their tech are pretty much set. WW1 and WW2 are basically the 2nd Thirty Years War and the results of WW1 pretty much set up the how, who, and where of WW2.

Besides there's so MUCH actual history you can mine for battles which involve nearly the same tech. It's just that your shit tier schooling could only repeat 'herp derp WW2" and that's all you know.

There's an ENTIRE war between Japan and China going on for most of the 30s & 40s involving tanks, planes, huge offensives, urban combat, guerillas, etc. The battles in and around Shanghai alone could give you dozens of "odd" yet modern units in hundreds of scenarios, but all you can think of is "herp derp WW2". Did you know the Nationalist Chinese were trained by German/Nazi advisors and entire divisions used German kit including uniforms and 'stahlhelms"? But no, "herp derp WW2".

Between 1900 and 1940 alone and ignoring WW1, there's Japan v USSR, the Chaco War, Italy v. Ethiopia, Spanish Civil War, Russo-Polish War. Greece v Turkey, Russian Civil War, post-WW1 fighting in Germany, the Rif War, Thailand v. France, Mexican Civil War, and dozens of others, but you want to fuck around with an alt-WW2?

Open a book and look at some history.

>>53752115
>Between 1900 and 1940 alone and ignoring WW1, there's Japan v USSR
? The Soviet Japanese war was 1945 anon

>>53752115
I'm leaning towards WW2 because I like Nazi Germany and my model collection is pretty modest as far as historical stuff goes. Why are you so bothered by that?

>>53751803
>Central Powers won WWI

How? Knock-out in 1914 when the Battle of the Marne goes bad? White peace in 1917 when the Zimmermann Telegram doesn't bring in the US and the Entente can no longer meet guarantee requirements for loans? Early or better USW starves the UK? Peace of exhaustion when the Spanish Flu shows up two year early?

HOW the Central Powers win is just as important as saying they won.

>>53752163
>Early or better USW starves the UK?
USW never really came close to starving out the UK. Even at its most successful points the food situation in Germany and especially Austria-Hungary was considerably worse from a raw calorie per person perspective and from variety available.

>>53751997
>Like no Dieppe raid

Dieppe wasn't part of the "learning curve". Started as a simple raid which metastasized into a full grown cluster fuck as everyone and their brother added their little pet project to the mission.

The "learning curve" occurred in the Med starting with Torch and D-Day would have been much better if the ETO had accepted some advice from the PTO instead of blowing them off.

>>53752146
>The Soviet Japanese war was 1945 anon

You stupid fuck.

First, look up the Allied intervention the Russian Civil War. Along with the US, UK, France, and even Czechs, Japan occupied Siberia and fought the Reds as far west as Lake Baikal and didn't evacuate 1922.

Then look up Nomohan and Kkalkin Gol.

>>53752151
>Why are you so bothered by that?

I'm not bothered by that. I'm bothered by your lazy myopia.

>>53752306
What's lazy about it? We clearly have different tastes. I don't want to play a straight up historical setting. You seem really angry about that. Where is this coming from?

>>53752213
>USW never really came close to starving out the UK.

Churchill in "The World Crisis" states that before the escorts & convoys situation got ironed out, they got down to a month of food stuffs at current rationing levels and a few weeks of raw material stocks for munitions & other industrial needs. I'll believe him before you.

>>53752320
>You seem really angry about that.
>>53751896
>Why are you so upset?
>>53752151
>Why are you so bothered by that?
Why are you looking for people to be so upset?

>>53751997
Even in that case the war would have just ended with Berlin and a few panzer divisions vanishing in nuclear fireballs in 45 instead

>>53752357
You've been calling me lazy, calling my girlfriend retarded, etc. Obviously you are having a fit. Why?

>>53752320
>I don't want to play a straight up historical setting.

That's fine. If you want to play fantasy, then go play fantasy.

This is the HISTORICAL wargames general thread, however, and not the "My girlfriend and I are historically illiterate gamers who can't think beyond derpy WW2 AH secnarios" thread.

>>53752146
good god i hope this is a poor attempt at bait

if not
Russian-Japanese War of 1894–95
Campaign of 1904
Siege of Port Arthur
Battle of Yalu River
Battle of the Yellow Sea
Campaign of 1905
Battle of Sandepu
Battle of Mukden
Battle of Tsushima
Soviet–Japanese border conflicts of 1938–39
Battle of Lake Khasan
Battles of Khalkhin Gol
Sino-Japanese War of 1945
Battle of Manchuria

and don't be fucking pedantic and say you only said Soviets. You know what he meant

>>53752380
/awg/ told me to come here. You're the only one upset about my being here. We're talking about toy soldiers friend, calm down.

>>53752361
Honestly a alternate history scenario of an alternate early cold war where the Allies won by means of a mad rampage with the Americans swinging their nuclear cock around like the fist of a drunken God would actually be pretty interesting

>>53752332
That doesn't contradict what I said at all.

The truth was "current rationing levels" for the UK were REALLY high compared to the Central powers who had been rationing since 1916, so whilst yes the UK did nearly reach the point of having to tighten their rationing, they didnt.

Its past midnight and I'm going to bed so you will have to do with a wikipedia "reference"
>For the most part, rationing benefited the health of the country. During the war, average energy intake decreased only three percent, but protein intake six percent.[8] ( Beckett, The Home Front 1914–1918 pp. 380–382)

a 3% calorie loss is literally nothing. Germany had an average calorie intake of about 60% pre war according the "Ring of Steel"

>>53752407
>and don't be fucking pedantic and say you only said Soviets.

And even if you limit it to Soviets, there's still the 1919-1922 occupation of Siberia and the 1930s border clashes.

>>53752415
>/awg/ told me to come here

/awg/ trolled you. Go back there because they can answer your "questions" better.

>>53752500
Five Men at Kursk is a historical wargame. It's even linked in the OP. If you have a problem with people talking about historical wargames then maybe this isn't the thread for you.

>>53752454
>wikipedia

Wiki. 'nuff said.

I'm not discounting the effect of the Entente blockade on the Central Powers either. It was far worse and caused more problems. at least until H-L rationalized German production in 1917, but, until very late, the Central Powers were authoritarian dictatorships and not parliamentary democracies.

Whether USW is a plausible reason or not, my point still stands: HOW and WHEN the Central Powers win is more important than simply derping that they win.

>>53752524
I think the issue they have is discussing alt-history in here that isn't actually properly thought out.

Honestly, you theoretically could be able to do so, and there's really no one stopping you. However, this is /hwg/ and we're all a bunch of history nerds, so people will generally trend towards historic battles.

>>53752674
Yeah that's why I said earlier that if you guys think this belongs in another thread I can take it elsewhere. I'm not looking to derail the thread at all. I'll see if /awg/ is interested at all

Wow they actually did it, the absolute madmen!

http://www.model-miniature.com/product.php?id_product=564

>>53752433

Greg Benford has a good novel based somewhat on that premise. He has the US starting the Manhattan project a little earlier instead of waiting for the "nudge' from the MAUD Committee. Along with using centrifuges instead of gaseous diffusion, those changes give the US one U235 Little Boy type bomb by 6 June 1944.

I'll only tell you that the D-Day beaches aren't the bomb's target, that the war ends in both ETO and PTO theaters very different ways, and leave it at that.

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>>53751728
Not a specific battle, rather a generalized Great Northern War clash

>>53756726
That's pretty cool.

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>>53757018
From the Great Yarmouth Good Old Boys – French Indian 'Laundry Wars'

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They had a section at the end of the table where kids could paint up their own 'peg soldiers' using their template

>>53756726
>>53757062
>>53757070
>>53757078
>>53757085

Those are some of the most unique "minis" I've ever seen. Thanks for sharing the pics.

>>53757144
Not that guy, but I've seen peg soldiers done quite a few times before. They're always charming. If I remember where, I'll post links, because I adore the ugly little buggers.

>>53759839
This looks like a movie scene

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>>53760089
The Silver Whistle guy is really good at photographing his stuff

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Since TFL released the Bulge campaign I thought I'd post my US Army vehicles I've finished yesterday.

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>>53760274

>>53760274
Every time someone says TFL on here I need to stop for a moment to remember they don't mean Transport for London.

>>53760274
>>53760281
They look nice anon, but two things:
- mouldlines on the barrels, be a bit more careful
- they could be a bit whiter - I mean I see you went with the "white paint eubbed off", but it looks a tad weird. Also, the white paint gut under stowage on the Jackson and it looks not that good. IMHO next time do the stowage separately, put some blutac where you want to put them so it won't get painted and you can glue them, thus you can avoid this.

Otherwise, they look really cool, well done, anon.

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>>53760333
Thank you for your critique. The mould lines yeah... damn mould lines.
I'll definitely will do the stowage later on next time.

>>53751390
Looks neat, but i would open the cockpit so it looks like the pilot either jumped or climbed out after the crash.

>>53752697
I think that /awg/ meet your desire. In a historical wargame forum you must expect that people speaks about history.

I remember there's some kind of Alt History wargame out there.

It's I think the 19th century, Turkey still has Janissaries who fight demons. Japan has a couple of factions including Samurai and the Yakuza fighting.

Does anyone know what this is?

>>53767531
I think its in her majesty's secret service.

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In other news: Rubicon are doing something that IS NOT A TANK.

>>53768839
Fucking Christ, this looks bloody awesome.

Why am I tempted to consider pick them up? Don't I have a couple thousand figures in another scale? Shit...

>>53770420
BMP-2

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Now if only there was a historically accurate 28mm Ming range...
http://bennosfiguresforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=18191&start=120

>>53773739
*6mm

LAV-III

Does anyone know a Late Roman empire range of miniatures where the infantry is perhaps more dynamic or has a variety of helmets, not just intercisa?

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If anyone wants to play some cold war sub combat - Cold Waters.
Download link is here
https://pastebin.com/60E1Wz8E

Reminds me of our harpoon sub duel way back.

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A few aircraft finished for an upcoming game of Lacquered Coffins - we're going to do a pacific theater battle, ideally re-fight (roughly) the sinking of the USS St. Lo - an escort carrier sunk by Zeros.

Top left are Grumman Wildcats, Top mid are Vought F4U Corsairs and Top right are A6M Zeros.
The bottom shows a size comparison - that's a regular sized pen.
Aircraft are 1/600 from tumbling dice, decals are from doms decals.

I'm fairly proud of my hand-painted '12' on the corsair - I didn't think it would turn out that well, considering its about 1mm high

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>>53778339
Close up of the corsairs. Its interesting that the decals show up as 2 colors in this photo - you can't really see that with the naked eye. Shows the level of magnification (miniature around an inch from the camera)

>>53778339
>>53778374
sweet! Any pics of the ships?

>>53778635
We don't have any ship minis and only the US carrier will be present. It will be a top-down print out on a piece of cardboard. Sorry to disappoint... LC is all about the air combat. The carrier will provide AAA fire within a certain range and altitude and could potentially launch aircraft if we play the Scramble mission, but apart from that it serves as a target.

>>53768839
I've found rubicon's non-vehicle stuff to be... mediocre, so far. Their crew figures have had no faces, for example.

>>53773739
Pls stop, I have wanted good 28mm ming for years ;__; fuck sculpters using the shit osprey 'ming' pictures for the few tiny existing ranges.

>>53733134
I've seen a zillion of this type of illustration but can never find a source. Where do they come from?

Is SAGA Aetius a fun ruleset?

>>53779109
Osprey

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>>53779109
Those are from those Osprey books we're always talking about, anon. There's a ton in the OP. That particular illustration is by Angus McBride, he did a lot of them.

>>53779131
>>53779141
Much appreciated. Thank you.

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Posting another Partizan table, this time the "Sudan 1890" game

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Apparently there were little LEDs in the 'smoke clouds' which lit up occassionally

>>53768839
>>53768865

>digital sculpts

Seeing Rubicons release speed these will be available in 2020 if we are lucky.

Besides, their crew members so far are terrible at worst and mediocre at best.
Don't get me wrong, i really want there to be a 2nd big player in the 2nd ww plastics field (there should be more than enough customers for that anyway), but at their current state Rubicons minis are far away from being great.

>>53780995
Difficult to get releases out when you're a small company doing world-wide trade. New releases like the Kradschutzen and Jeeps are due out this Quarter.

>>53781237
True.
I still think they should maybe reduce the amount of announcements by a little.

At this rate its hard to keep track on what they are even working on.
Now that you are mentioning the Krads i remember, but i would have sworn the Maultier truck will be released earlier. But maybe not.

>>53781262
Ah yes, I think it's the Maultier rather than the Jeeps. It could be all three though.

They've commented on the time between announcement and release before, IIRC it was along the lines of them preferring to continue showing what they're working on, rather than have a large gap in announcements. In theory there should be a lot more kits out in six months time, judging from their previous release schedules and the amount they've shown in the prototype stage.

Besides the crew figures being utter shite, my other gripe is their upgrade kits; I want a Greif for my DAK, but paying close to £30 for one plastic vehicle is... not going to happen.

>>53781346
The upgrade kits come from them being a small company too i think.

Imagine they would release an own box for each Sdkfz version.. some of which were really rare (like the Greif) and others just unpopular with gamers. For that the upgrade-kit version works i guess.

You could use the Tamiya 1/48 sdkfz 250 Greif instead btw, it should be around $20 and given its tiny size, the scale difference isn't to troublesome.

>>53781385
Yeah, I'd rather the original kit was a bit more expensive ad had the options, though.

Regarding Tamiya 1/48, I have their Jagdtiger (in Afrika colours to piss off rivet counters!), and also a 1/48 sdkfz 222 from ICM; the JT is MASSIVE compared to other stuff. Like, really, really big; far more than it should be. The 222 is pretty well scaled, though.

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>>53781502
The bigger the vehicle, the bigger that scale difference shows..

A 1/48 Kubelwagen for example is kinda tiny.

Pic related is my Marder in 1/48 with Warlord minis i posted a couple of times in here. I think the minis fit almost perfectly in their size.

Personally i try to stick to smaller vehicles with 1/48 for gaming, like nothing bigger than a Panzer 3.
I build the new Elefant recently. Its size is huge and probably around the same size as your Jagdtiger.

>>53781549
>The bigger the vehicle, the bigger that scale difference shows.
I've never thought of it like that!
I've been cautious about getting more 1/48 kits, especially given my now sizable 1/56 collection. Obviously mixing the same chassis would be blatant, but I'll certainly look into Marders and 8-rads more.

>>53781738
The prices always prevented me from getting into 1/56 when in comparison Tamiya kits almost always cost a couple € less while being better detailed. (sure, comparing companies like warlord with giants like tamiya is kinda unfair, but my wallet doesn't cares about fairness)

>8-rads

If you have the Puma in mind, try to get the Italeri kit. Tamiyas offering is just a reboxed version of that, but for a way higher price Probably because of the license or something, but i rarely saw it below 30€. The Italeri Puma comes for 15€ though. (it got rare in online shops though, i think they stopped making it).

The 232 early war 8-rad by Tamiya seems to be nice, but i haven't build one yet but its ranked fairly high on my "want-to-buy" list. Next will be the T-70 by Mikro Mir. Hopefully that kit won't disappoint me given it comes from a tiny company in Ukraine.

Since you have an africa corps, ICM released a brand new sdkfz 223 a couple of days ago. Maybe thats interesting for you.

>>53781502
>to piss off rivet counters
Stick it to the man, man!

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Derby Wargames Society, Russo-Japanese War 1904
I wonder if they used Ship Blows Up!

>>53779141
>When she eying up your D.

>>53768839

What's going on with him anyways? Is there some sudden demand for 28mm truescale? I figured that crowd would be playing 1/72..

>>53780995

Do the heads come molded on? I'd probably want to graft Warlord heads onto mine.

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>>53783563
Not in the Sdkfz 250 neu.
All 3 minis (machinegunner, commander and driver have seperate heads)

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>>53783617

Much appreciated! I've been looking forward to their PAK guns and other weapons teams.

>>53783697
That camo looks awesome.

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Okay, so it looks like 8 guys wide 3 guys deep is standard for Hail Caesar infantry units. Would that go for deeper pike units like Macedonia/Successor phalanxes?

>>53784180
That artist always draws faces the same.

>>53781949
Nah, the 231/232. No Pumas in Afrika :(

Not too fussed by the 223, though their 222 was a nice build.

I'll have to look up that T-70, I play Soviets too :D

>>53780789

Great game & Dave is a really nice guy. He's a machine when it comes to his wargaming, very dedicated. Also has a very interesting way of painting horses (and camels).

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>>53779009
>fuck sculpters using the shit osprey 'ming' pictures for the few tiny existing ranges.
I'm surprised the Perry bros. didn't venture off into the Ming.

Here's hoping clib delivers.
http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=84196.0

>>53782777
>>53782793
>>53782808
>>53782827
>>53782843

Thanks for the pics! Any chance of an AAR?

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Painted some Peace Pheasants lads.
Any of you guys do 6mm Cold War or moderns?

>>53726359
>>53726369
>>53726378

what French flags are those? I'm not too familiar with the french in Egypt but I've never come across those before

I know this isn't the thread for it but maybe you lads could help me out. I'm trying to find a reproduction coat from the Russian Imperial Army of around the Napoleonic era. Everything I search for will only return British/French stuff, American Revolution stuff (WHY), or Soviet uniforms. I literally cannot search for the proper thing or find what I'm looking for.

Can someone point me in the right direction or know of where I can get one?

>>53789144
Just as a disclaimer:
I have absolutely no idea about reenactment or anything like that.

But I can say that looking into costumes for theatres or film is worth looking into.
The people making these things usually specialize in tailoring period clothing.

Sometimes you can even buy old costumes.
In any case, if you ask around enough you may be able to find a tailor able to make one for you.

what about some ww2 naval miniatures? like seekrieg 5 and the CD's?

>>53790182
GHQ's ships are pretty swish.

>>53789144
how about trying the cosplay board?

>>53777179
i dunno if this link is legit but honestly i would rather give money to the developers so they can publish more content for the game than play a pirate version

but im not opposed to seeing if it works on my turd of a laptop before purchasing. can anyone confirm the link?

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>>53788135
The weird design the French demi-brigades used in Egypt

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>>53787630
wow those look great! I like the highlighting, although it probably looks better from a distance. I understand for 6mm you paint for a gamer 2ft away rather than up close with a camera.

I do 6mm moderns (soviet afghan war for Hind & Seek) and just about to get into 3mm (1/600) air combat. In the middle of writing a system for modern air combat which will range from 'Nam to about 2000.
I was researching the F-4 variants last night, and their various missiles.
Not sure how I'm going to make missiles ranging from 10% to 18% Probability of kill fun, but I'll try... firing 10 missiles and only having 1 or 2 actually hit surely isn't going to be that fun, especially considering the average Phantom only carries 8 missiles in total.

Pilots describe a variety of things happening when they fired things like AIM-9s or AIM-7s - The missile would either not come off the rail, come off the rail and fall to the ground, come off the rail and fire but not actually track, come off the rail and track but then be defeated by a highly maneuverable aircraft (mig 17s and 21s being designed with high maneuverability in mind, and US missiles being designed to take out slow moving, level-flying bombers) and then the final possibility is the missile does everything right, tracks the target and goes right up the tailpipe. I guess at least the Soviet missiles will be just as crap in Vietnam era, so shouldn't be too bad.

I could implement something like: roll 3+ to see if missile comes off the rails, then roll 3+ to see if missile actually ignites, then roll 3+ to see if the missile actually tracks, then the target can go evasive etc. I'll have to fool around with probabilities and only using D6 or 2D6.

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>>53794109
>I do 6mm moderns (soviet afghan war for Hind & Seek)
Only tangentially related, you wouldn't happen to have a good resource on how to make/buy flying stands for a 6mm scale Hind?

I've got a couple and I'm not exactly sure what to do with them.

>>53794109
>Not sure how I'm going to make missiles ranging from 10% to 18% Probability of kill fun, but I'll try... firing 10 missiles and only having 1 or 2 actually hit surely isn't going to be that fun, especially considering the average Phantom only carries 8 missiles in total.
>Pilots describe a variety of things happening when they fired things like AIM-9s or AIM-7s - The missile would either not come off the rail, come off the rail and fall to the ground, come off the rail and fire but not actually track,
If you succeed, try making a WW2 COMSUBPAC game. The sides are "long, hard, and full of seamen" vs "buord."

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>>53794462
>hind base
Depends what kind of stand you like, I just glued an acrylic rod (mine was 6mm) to a base and then stuck a magnet on the end.
If you've got a dremel you can also cut the point off a wire nail and use that.
Helps to stick a bunch of shit on the bottom to give it a bit of weight too, so it doesn't get knocked over and explode.

>>53793663
French Revolution Demi-Brigade flags were absolutely wild.

>>53794109
>I could implement something like: roll 3+ to see if missile comes off the rails, then roll 3+ to see if missile actually ignites, then roll 3+ to see if the missile actually tracks, then the target can go evasive etc. I'll have to fool around with probabilities and only using D6 or 2D6.
rolling more dice does NOT make an action more fun. if between 10-18% if what you need I recommend just making it a 6 on a d6, aka 16%, or perhaps a 5+ followed by a dodge roll

Unless it affects gameplay rolling 4 times for 1 missile is never going to be more fun than just rolling 1.

>>53795508
Cheers anon, time to go get my hands on some acrylic rod then

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>>53750514
Did something similar with a mate that does US Army when I started building my IJA force. Scenario was meant to be the Battle of San Francisco in an alternate history where the Pacific Campaign goes sour and the Japs invade California through Hawaii.

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>>53795564
Yeah rolling more dice is a waste of time. The only thing it would help would be showing you exactly what went wrong - but the same thing could be done with a single dice on a table like this:

1 Missile fails to launch
2 Missile launches, drops to the ground
3 Missile Launches, fails to guide
4 Missile Launches, fails to guide
5 Missile Launches, begins seeking target!
6 Missile Launches, begins seeking target!

Combine this with evasion, which is essentially assured provided the target is situationally aware and has some E left for maneuvering and it should make for a pretty close proximation of shitty 'Nam era missiles.
AIM-7D and E Sparrows had a <10% Pk, while AIM-9B Sidewinder had ~16% Pk. AIM-9D and E had 18% Pk. Not sure if I will be able to represent these small changes (or even if I'd want to) but they certainly aren't wonder weapons.

I am looking forward to working out the whole ground - air dynamics with SAMs and such. I will likely include rules for naval as well so Falklands can be fought - I definitely won't be going to Harpoon levels of naval though - keep it arcade-y yet (hopefully) accurate like all my games.

>>53787630
Where to buy pretty planes like these?

>>53760965
Urquhart's memoirs "Arnhem General" are a recommendation. They are a very good read.

>>53797808
And what would be scale recommendations for aircraft? How big is 1/300 (or 1/285)

>>53784821
My hopes grow smaller for that range seeing as there have not been any updates in a while, not even a hint.

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>>53797981
1/300 and 1/285 are a good scale for games with ground and air elements. Also pretty good for pure air. Heroic and Ros do cheap 1/300, GHQ do more expensive 1/285 (although very nice quality). There are a few others, just google 6mm modern aircraft.

1/600 is my preferred scale for pure air battles - means you can get a good feel of distance between aircraft on a regular sized table and makes moving around fast not suddenly take you off the table.
Tumbling dice is the go-to for 1/600 scale aircraft of all periods imo - they are also incredibly cheap and great service / speed. Picoarmor are also good. I just ordered a bunch of modern aircraft from tumbling dice so looking forward to painting them up. I already own about 200 WWII aircraft of theirs (the most recently painted here: >>53778374) as well as around 100 WWI aircraft.

>>53778339
>>53778374
A question about LC. I've bought the game off of Drivethru RPG/Wargames Vault series of shops, and I'm loving it so far (if the author is in these threads, good job). Now, in the rules it states the ideal base size is 1,5" x 1,5" square (rougly 4x4 cm square). To be honest, I can't really be assed to cut it out of plasticard, would 30mm round bases still be alright, or are the bases there so planes don't impact each other mid-game?

Obviously as long as both sides are using the same type of base, it shouldn't theoretically be a problem, right?

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>>53798307
Round bases would be fine. Square bases are just good for working out forward and rear weapons on bombers and ground attack aircraft - the flat side gives you a clear line to extrapolate from.
If using circular bases, perhaps just rule a line from front to back on the base, so you can easily see where fixed forward weapons will be firing. That should likewise help accurately work out forward and rear firing arcs.
If you don't want to do that it would be easy to just use the aircraft miniature as the reference point - its clear to see if something is directly in front of it and usually people can agree if something is in a bombers forward, side or rear arc. Edge cases rarely arise and they can always be solved with a dice roll anyway.

Glad you're enjoying the rules, keep us updated on your aircraft builds and battle reports! I may look at doing an update in the future, adding some aircraft variants and providing a few variations of the activation rules - I have a few ideas there.

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>>53797808
Those are Scotia Grendel lad, as are pic related.
Some of their minis look ropey as hell on their site but a lot of them are actually pretty nice.
H&R are also cheapish and nice.
GHQ are the best but you really pay for it, you do get missiles and shit with them though, which H&R and Scotia lack

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>>53785499
I unfortunately had nothing to do with that anon, it was another Partizan game

>>53782777
>>53782793
>>53782808
>>53782827
>>53782843
Sexy.

It'd be pretty damned awesome if they did

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Bought some vehicles from Blitzkrieg Miniatures for the first time. They offered a huge 50% discount on some stuff a couple of weeks ago and for only 11gbp per vehicle i couldn't refuse.

I did no cleaning so far and i'm really impressed. These halftracks are WAY better than the Warlord resin tanks i had before.

My main issue is the very basic interior of the german sdkfz but i think i can "fix" that by adding some stowage and crew members to make it less obvious.
The interior of the M3 is way better.
One other thing: The machineguns of the german vehicle are metal, and look pretty weak, but thats basically a non-issue since i will add warlord plastic ones.

>>53799914
How can 1/56 and 1/48 both be 28mm on their website?

>>53799998
You can use either with 28mm miniatures.

On Warlords Website you got both their vehicles and their infantry labeled as 28mm too.

>>53798866
>>53798305
Are there any comparison pics between 1/300 1/600 and the like? I have no clue what to expect if I am looking at size. How long is a 1/300 f14 and how long is the 1/600 variant?

>>53751567
Start Watching 'Man in the High Castle' with her. Then you can get her to do Nazi's vs American Freedom fighters, a bonus for her would be a pretty female partisan miniature, then you could add drama, and have campaigns and stuff.

I wouldn't have though a girl would care much for the kind of setting your proposing. The simpler the premise the better, allow it to grow while you are playing, if she is interested that is.

>>53800119
The first season is quite slow and dull however. The second season is great however.

>>53800084
I don't understand. 28mm can't be equivalent to both. That's not how scale works.

>>53800182
28mm is a size, not a scale. :V

>>53800182
And 28mm is not a "scale".

For example Perry Miniatures WW2 plastics as well as Warlords WW2 plastics are sold as 28mm (Warlord even calls their Gorillas 1/56). Warlords Minis are significantly bigger and "chunkier" than the Perrys because of the so called "heroic" style.
In the end, their heads, arms and weapons are even bigger than actual 1/48 miniatures by Tamiya. (which makes that 1/56 on their website even more laughable). For these Gorrilla-like minis, 1/56 vehicles are simply to small (The 1/56 crew miniatures are noticeable smaller than the infantry btw), and 1/50 or 1/48 fit better.
In the end its personal preference, and i really like the Warlords Plastics but i prefer my vehicles not to look like clown cars so 1/48 is the logical choice for me.

(Both the vehicles on the pic above are 1/48 btw).

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1/56 vehicles are too small! My ideas of what an AFV should look like are based on modern vehicles!

>>53800767
I don't even understand what you mean.

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>>53800865

Sorry, English is not my first language.

I'm making fun of people who think 1/56 vehicles should loom over infantries.

>>53800767
>>53800894
I understood Anon.

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>>53800767
>>53800894

Since we play with infantry miniatures that are bigger than 1/56, why should we use vehicles in 1/56 and not a bigger scale according to the increased size of the infantry miniatures?

Do you play with true scale minis only?

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>>53800953

Well, they have bigger heads/hands/weapons but 1/48 guys are taller. So I figure it balances out. Ignoring the hatches of course...

>>53800104
I've not got an F14 but the 1/300 F4 is about 2, maybe 2.5 inches long, the 1/600 will basically be about half that.
I can take an actual photo in a couple of hours so you can get a better idea.

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>>53801020
Vehicles are not a big part of Bolt Action anyway, in most of my lists i have only one tank and 1-2 soft skins and even if the infantry is doing most of the work, the tank just feels like its the center of my army. At least its center of attention if you look at it at first glance.
I just like the look of a slightly bigger vehicle and Warlords scale creep with the newer released infantry makes this decision only easier.

Fun fact; i replaced the machine gun of my Stug here with a warlord one because the original mg looked so tiny compared to my infantry machine gunners. It just looks better that way.

>>53801121

I get that.

And yeah, the weapon thickness is one of the reasons I don't like truescale 1/48 tanks. That and the intricate track assemblies.

>>53801052
So I want to build a small airforce to play scenario's with. Russian and NATO. Do you have any recommendations for planes that fit into those broad categordies? I at least want a big bomber or radar-plane as an objective to protect/destroy, some high tech jets (f14 and russian equivalent) and some lower tech jets. 1980/90 for the era. Got any advice on what would be fun planes for these categories?

>>53781502
>Jagdtiger (in Afrika colours to piss off rivet counters!)
And now I really want to do a Cromwell in Caunter camo... Where can I find a cheap cromwell of decent size and quality?

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>>53802418
These are the guys I have so far, all in 1/300, cm grid for scaling. But for pure air-to-air battles you might want to go 1/600 unless you have a large table.
As for types of planes you probably cant go wrong with F-15s, Mig-29s and that kind of thing.

You probably couldnt go far wrong just by going through the Wargame wiki and picking Soviet and Nato things you like, thats basically what I do when im choosing what to buy
http://wargame-series.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Red_Dragon_aircraft

For larger/strategic bombers or radar-type planes you may have to look into scale models as they arent a typical wargaming miniature (at 6mm anyway), Scotia Grendel does a B-58 Hustler bomber but its a pretty old plane and was retired in the 70s

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>>53802942
>>53781502

Have you guys been following the Warlord Games drama over the Operation Sea Lion book?

It's supposed to be more of a pulp action side-game where the home guard fights Mosley's fascists and interwar tech is pressed into service.

And these grognards are tossing their tendies and arguing that the invasion would have been impossible.

>>53803879
Why would I follow drama? Especially when it's fat nerds arguing over dumb shit?

>>53803879

Why would anyone care about a re-skinned version of WarHamster?

>>53802942
What about this one?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TAMIYA-Cromwell-Mk-IV-British-Cruiser-Tank-Mk-VIII-A27M-1-48-Series-32528-JAPAN-/182455886923?hash=item2a7b37e44b:g:WJsAAOSwtfhYpAaI

>>53803879
Drama?

Nope, i've seen some nice and interesting new minis though, thats all.

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>>53804026

Maybe because it's fun and people actually play it?

Neckbeard rivet-counters really don't know what they're missing. What's the point of shilling for Disposable Heroes or Command Decision if you only get to play it at conventions?

>>53803879
This just illustrates the importance of aiming and presenting your product correctly. Having this just turn up in the normal course of BA supplements acts against it, because it breaks expectations. Whilst Bolt Action isn't really much for historical accuracy usually, the supplements have generally been fitting. Throwing in a fantasy thing with a radically different tone from out of no-where was a big misstep.

A change of cover style from the normal would have been a good start. Maybe ramping up to it with other, more plausible alternate history scenario supplements would have been a good idea too.

>>53803917

Because that's what the internet is for.

>>53804136
Not that K47 is plausible, but they should have marketed it somewhat like it. As a standalone/spinoff game of the original BA.

>>53804131

Because they are good? That reminds me that I have to rip and give to ya fuckers DH2. Got to buy it and it's a very.... peculiar system, very different from the first edition. Noticeable how the author wanted to TRULY make it as "realistic" but free flowing as possible.

It's like someone wanted to make a different yet similar game instead of Warhammer WW2 2nd edit.... wait, BA 2nd edition.

>>53804131
DH isn't for neckbeard rivet counters at all. It's an easy system to use that allows for period tactics and the like. That said I don't have a problem with BA, it's ok, nothing more. I don't shit on people that enjoy the game just because I enjoy something else more you fucking cock gobbling cunt.

>>53805298
>That said I don't have a problem with BA, it's ok, nothing more. I don't shit on people that enjoy the game just because I enjoy something else more you fucking cock gobbling cunt.
>Why would anyone care about a re-skinned version of WarHamster?

I like your lack of self-awareness.

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>>53719220
Hey /hwg/ does anyone know if there are scans of AK interactive books? Like in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoPBLRQJjEg

Also does anyone know where I can get a clear guide or reference for the Guards armour division. I'm looking to put the decals on my Cromwell tank but whenever I search it I get polish armoured division

pic not related

>>53806660
I had the FAQ in my Mega but some fucker hacked it and deleted all my shit as I found out today.

>>53805840
Don't bother with WarHamster guy. He's some grognard who thinks he's better than you because he's like 60.

>>53806687
ah shit that sucks big time! Thanks anyway buddy

>>53807086
I'll upload it again at one point. MAybe it's in OP's modeling guides, check that too.

>>53807095
thanks again, nah theres the FAQ of the AFV painting techniques but no AK armour books

>>53803879
>pulp action side-game where the home guard fights Mosley's fascists and interwar tech is pressed into service.

So literally just VBCW but worse, then?

>tfw no-one to play with

My Chinese warlord infantry are just staring back at me, asking when the enemy will arrive.

>>53803879
>And these grognards are tossing their tendies and arguing that the invasion would have been impossible.

I think the only thing that should be addressed is the fact that Mosley and the blackshirts wanted nothing more than peace :^]

That being said I'm still worknig on my starter set and vehicles but I think it looks fun as fuck and I was tempted to buy the blackshirts but they're in metal and hopefully they'll make them plastic given enough time