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Paizo is literally the worst. More 3pp stuff!

So for my character in JttW I've nearly settled on a Prophet (Perform (Tea Ceremony) instead of Perform (Dance)) Covetous cursed Intrigue mystery Oracle | Geisha Demagogue Bard.

I'm thinking of switching out Demagogue for Celebrity, but my overall ability to support falls because I no longer have Inspire Courage, but then again I'm a celebrity.

What do you guys think? Demagogue or Celebrity?

>>53717392
>Friendly reminder that Starfinder martials are still objectively inferior to casters and that Paizo doesn't give a shit about C/MD.
We literally don't know that, though. Until we get the damn game in hand, we literally have no idea.

>>53717420
>Prophet (Perform (Tea Ceremony) instead of Perform (Dance)) Covetous cursed Intrigue mystery Oracle | Geisha Demagogue Bard


The fug. How many books did it take to stitch this chimera together.

Reminder that only celeb apps will get into Ensoulment.

>>53717432
l
o
l

>implying that Starfinder isn't a bottle of shit.

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So I'm finally gonna be able to use my favorite barbarian character again for side stuff my GM agreed to because I unfortunately had to leave very early on in the campaign and couldn't rejoin

What kinda zany stuff could a fighter girl get up to if she's a level 3 in Shattered Star, and left the main party to pursue her own interests? Assuming she's still in Magnimar and such? Any ideas I could take to my GM, anons?

>>53717467
But the real question is which celebs.

There's many with schedules that don't fit together. Like Broodie and fucking... Everybody.

>>53717440
Prophet comes from Inner Sea Intrigue (I asked the GM if I could switch out the normal Perform Dance for Perform Tea Ceremony). Covetous came out of Legacy of Dragons. Intrigue came out of ultimate intrigue. Demagogue and Geisha both come from Ultimate Magic.

>>53717502
>Intrigue
This kills the Isao.

>>53717467
Reminder that nobody cares

>>53717508
Fucking Startoad man

>>53717467
I doubt there'll even be enough compatible celebs even if that were true.

>>53717420
Speaking of JttW, have there been any big changes to characters that swayed any opinions? Enough for a new summary shitpost yet? Any new standouts, good or bad?

>>53717392
Someone explain this to me, what about it exactly is so shit?

Has DHB's final edit of Jericho gotten a review? Can someone give me a summary of his final version? I don't want to read the text wall.

>>53717548
Flat-Footed in Starfinder is just a -2 penalty to AC which doesn't even enable sneak attacks.

Spending a standard action for a chance at -2 to AC for a round is horrid.

>>53717555
Cute guy that needs a hug

>>53717548
It boils down to "+2 to hit for one round", it has its uses but there are better ways to improve accuracy

>>53717567
>cute
y tho?

Who likes jorts and BBQ here?

Is a melee oracle viable?
What's a good spread for them at 25PB?

Anyone able to summarise the Golden Chalice apps?

>>53717583
Cause he's a snek and can show emotions.

>>53717592
I like BBQ and Jorts if they're on a cute girl, why do you ask?

>>53717618
I don't get this bullshit, why is showing emotions a good trait?

>>53717599
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WdtrZCESRmVfljXY196wMrMLTnS8Uzk4DEk3oQdVZok/edit?hl=en_US

How do I get my initiative as low as possible?

>>53717636
>why is a character who is able to show emotions a good thing

:thinking:

>>53717639
quickest way I know of is to be nonproficient with full plate and a tower shield and just wear those. Should be like a -20 to your initiative

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/78224/chronicles-of-the-golden-chalice
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77201/essentia-forgotten-home
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/79068/journey-to-the-west
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77814/ensoulment-of-the-flower-court
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/78606/hells-saboteurs

>>53717622
What if it's a gnoll

>>53717683
I really want you to kill yourself, holy shit.

For fucks sake Rory, just give it a rest.

>>53717396
True, that in addition I would say.
>>53717423
Thats why its "debate". Intelligent people can have disagreements and still work together.
>>53717400
CCC, Niccolo, Ortzi, Varius, Sibyl, Spidget.

Rotate one or two out with one of the better generic heroes like Derrin or Matheo.

There. Every situation will be approached with contemplative discussion leading into carefully considered action, fully appreciating whatever complex, roleplay heavy obstacles Protag has laid out.

>>53717704
You don't think Aurelia will get in? I think if she gets finished she actually has excellent 'meme' potential if you will

>>53717704
Niccolo's getting outright scrapped.

>>53717683
No, I actually find that disgusting.

>>53717715
Not him but I think Aurelia is dead just due to schedule. Even if she turns out to be the strongest single app by the end of things, I imagine there'll be some combination of great apps incompatible with her.

>>53717704
>thinking Jericho won't get in
shit taste desu

Also Jericho, at least in his last edit, both has a vision and is analyzing that vision. He's perfect for debate club.

>>53717715
Possible. Like I said I could be underestimating the (real)meme potential.

>>53717734
Fair point.

>>53717432
Did Paizo fire everyone and hire entirely new people? If not then yeah, we already know martials will suck.

>>53717410
If only we hadn't driven the devs away

>>53717739
Oh, havent reread it in a while.

I was just throwing out a rough idea to give an idea of what I think the team will look like, not trying to pass judgment.

>>53717636
Show's he's a real human (snek)!

>>53717704
>that in addition
No. That's the main thing. It's not going to be a "debate" in the sense you're thinking of.
Ortzi has no philosophy to speak of. I'm not sure I can trust you.

>>53717693
This gnoll poster is too eloquent for it to be Rory

>>53717704
>spidget
Wow.

Why not just switch out CCC for Pepe while we're at it?

>>53717392
>That realization that PFG became PGG to avoid threads dying
>And they still die

Glad I got out when I did.
I was foolish, following the trends when I had picked it up.
I knew well of the 3.5 boogieman, and sought to avoid it.
Little did I know that pathfinder was the boogieman I feared in a suit, and that suit slowly came off until I realized what it hid.

I do not hate my time with pathfinder, however I do not wallow in the fields of filth it has become. Instead I have moved forward, looking for greener pastures.
The same fate may befall me again, I may pick up an RPG that ends up being the same boogieman I steer clear of. But I would rather take that chance than remain close to the object of my hatred, allowing others the freedom to stay in their filthy fields if they so wish.

I will not force nor berate those who stay with pathfinder, or any other similar games, I only ask that you keep your eyes to the horizon rather than where you stand, for you never know what you might see if you look.

>>53717775
Is about as retarded though.

>>53717784
Spidgets a good app with a dumb name.
>>53717771
Have you reread his app recently? Honestly its probably the weekest on that team though, probably one of the ones to get replaced by an obligatory generic hero.

>>53717775
I'm just trying to find my friend here who appreciates !Vegas

>>53717808
Then take it to the fucking discord Jesus christ

>>53717805
>Have you reread his app recently?
It's definitely a step up from his Drifters days, but it's still very incomplete philosophy-wise.

>>53717823
What do you think I'm trying to do ffs

>>53717805
Ortzi's explicitly notes his lack of a philosophy or goal. He's just a weaker Matheo, and Matheo ain't even ready for presentation.

>>53717843
He'll make a good NPC.

>>53717704

That's a refreshingly different list than I usually see.

>>53717840
I'll set up a Discord ID in about an hour. Just getting ready for my own game right now.

>>53717868
Wait so you don't have a Discord?

>>53717480
Magnimar? Very nice place to raise a proper ruckus, especially for such a strong young woman such as her. Personally? There aren't too many quests she could do, but the place is famous for being maximum comfy so maybe she could find a tavern and raise a little hell. She's Shoanti, and they're Varisians; you're the tough, frightening yet exotically alluring warrior-princess they hear horror stories about. Play that up!

>>53717875
Nope. One of the other GMs was encouraging us to do so, I will now.

>>53717935
https://discord.gg/3vsVM

>>53717963
Disregard this link. Screw you, Darn Tootin', I'm trying to network with my fellow gnollposters here.

>>53717868
https://discord.gg/n4e2Q

>>53718017
Quick, someone go into the gnollposter discord and post their IDs, so we can fucking exile them.

>>53717704
CCC, Niccolo, Derrin, Ceraphine, Jericho, and Sibyl would be my pick for team P H I L O S O P H Y.

The group generally boils down to:

Contemplative - CCC (Ambitious), Niccolo (Academic)

Dynamic - Derrin (Progressive), Jericho(Conservative)

Empathetic - Ceraphine (Stalwart), Sibyl (Flexible)

Each character has a foil with a similar base philosophy, but a vastly different approach to it. It not only gives rise to philosophical waxing between the those with vastly differing viewpoints, but also debate between those who only differ in a few ways. With this setup, the characters get to express both the broad strokes and the nuances of their beliefs; while still keeping the party from fragmenting.

>>53718044
see
>>53717718

>>53717963
>>53718017
I'm phone posting while taking care of stuff. I'll join you guys in about 20 minutes.

>>53718026
Well... I mean, what's that gonna accomplish? I'm not on the pgg Discord and don't wanna go there.

So...

Heh.

>>53717911
I like that idea! Especially since she happens to be a bloodrager with... Charisma, so to speak. Maybe I could find a quest in a tavern! Or something. The main party she split off from is currently level eleven so that might change some things up in terms of what quests she can go on

>>53718064
We can keep you out of games.

>>53718057
Why, and how do you know this, are you his writer?

Rory got in my Discord. He said he was angry you guys kept saying he's gnollposting when he's not. He wants you to stahp.

Just STAHP.

>>53718044
Poster of the previous list here. This list is much better, good job.

>>53718079
I saw him talking about it a little while ago after he finally realized the raw truth that SoM sucks.

>>53718017
Love you

>>53718076
Uhm... If you think so, okay, haha.

Rory is that you? (I still don't know who's 'Rory' honestly)

>>53718104
He can change the class without scrapping the character

>>53718091
You know what could stop that.

IF YOU DON'T FUCKING GNOLLPOST YOU ANNOYING TWAT.

>>53718124
He said he was interested in a different character.

>>53718126
That's rich coming from a guy posting about his cabal. We're just talking about a fantasy race here, gnolls ain't exactly private stuff.

Wait a minute... How did you even get the reputation for gnollposting, anyway?

>>53718057
That's disheartening, I quite liked him.

Then replace Niccolo with... Varius, I suppose? Maybe Giancarlo.

The contemplative and unambitious slot is hard to fill with the current crop of apps, but very important for this group to remain balanced.

>>53718156
I'M NOT RORY EITHER YOU GODDAMN RETARD

THOUGH I GUESS YOU HAVE THAT IN COMMON WITH RORY, YOU FUCKING MORON.

>>53718123
>>53718126
Not even Rory likes these fags lmao

>>53718156
>How did you even get the reputation for gnollposting
Asking the real questions here

>>53718179
>gnollposters are so bad even Rory hates them

Actual legends.

>>53718172
Varius is pretty good yeah. I think hed fill the slot fine.

>>53718173
Reaaaally

Reaaaaaaaaaaaally?

>>53718210
YES REALLY.

FUCKS SAKE I DON'T EVEN POST LIKE RORY

>>53718194
>he shifts blame of his reputation on people that talk about something related to the thread
What a thin skin this Rory guy's got.

Definitively not getting +2AC. Definitively not a gnollposter.

>>53718234
But that's exactly what Rory would say!

>>53718239
>he still thinks i'm Rory

Are you actually retarded? Does gnollposting immediately make you a fucking dumbass.

I'm Rorycus!

>>53718254
Yes. I'm retarded. I'm a gnollposter.

Heh.

>>53718279
NO I AM RORYCUS!

Rory-paranoia is my favorite meme

Gnolls were a mistake.

>>53718279
>he thinks so much revolves around him that we got to give a shit people attribute our posting to him.
Bruh.

>>53718302
Rory was the real mistake

Fuck it. I'm going to filter "Gnoll" too.

>>53718294
No, I'm Rory-kun!

Who the fuck is Rory and why the fuck won't you guys shut up about him?

I swear to god trying to get relevant discussion or information out of generals on /tg/ is impossible, i'd be better of using google or a fucking ouija board.

>>53718316
You should filter everything that pertains to PFRPG. Kobolds, goblins, orcs!

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>>53718335

If Corwin and the Vilderavn are going steady, do we think there's still hope for Casimir and Valeriya?

>>53718348
Fuck off.

>>53718348
I don't see how Corwin and Vilderavn going out would impact the Valimir ship.

>>53718330
Retarded idiot in Dragons2 who shilled himself like mad in the thread, got in, leaked ERP logs like an absolute moron, and has continued to act like a moron since, including bamboozling a game because..

He might legitimately be retarded

>>53718348
Sure. What would the two even have to do with one another? Are you suggesting that Casimir is the Vilderavn!?!

>>53718330
Use the board.

>>53718343
Like calm down I'm just exchanging IDs with one guy.

None of you had to intervene if you didn't want to start something about it.

You brought it on yourselves like everything else you complain about, really.

>>53718313
All this memery aside, he legitimately disgusts me.

>>53718369
What is it with people named Rory connected to /tg/ related media and hobbies becoming reviled boogiemen?

>>53718381
Same, can't believe he's still in that game.

>>53718385
What, does /5eg/ have its own Rory too or something?

>>53718408
It's the same person, most likely.

>>53718408
The ERP threads/community did/do. They got exiled to /soc/ forever ago, though.

>>53718390
It sounds like he's been behaving in game (he must know he's on thin ice since the log leaks). That just means he has to be twice the shitter in the general and the app process for other games.

>>53718444
>He removed his app for ensoupment.

Let's see how Clock turns out

>>53718488
But seriously LEAVE RORY ALONE

STAHP.

>>53718488
People stopped paying attention to Witch (Seducer), so I guess he's putting full attention into shitting on JttW with Clock.

>>53718501
Why? He's a piece of shit.

>>53718501
Your sins will follow you forever, Rory.

>>53718381
Eh, at least with Rory Im willing to believe hes just kinda dumb and irresponsible, but not actually all that bad. He takes the constant shit thrown his way like a champ most of the time and actually gets embarrased when hes obviously in the wrong.

Hes like a dumber Vult except with redeeming qualities.

>>53717750
Pretty sure nobody that worked on the Pathfinder CRB is working on the Starfinder CRB.

>>53718546
>Vult and Rory both log dumpers
>both pieces of shit

It checks out.

>>53718540
>>53718541
If you see Rory tell him he left my Discord before I could say bye.

>>53718501
Repent in hell, Rory

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uec0?Envoy-seems-underwhelming
This fucking thread is everything wrong with the Paizo forums holy shit

>thought about making app for Ensoulment
>realized it's already reached its peak and nothing I submit now will matter
Dang it all to heck.

been out of the loop on Paizo stuff. Are there any Starfinder playtest or preview stuff to check out?

>>53718546
Good people don't leak logs. He is that bad.

>>53718647
What? Theres like 3 weeks left, it still gets memed every thread, and Protag has expressed a small but still existent level of dissatisfaction with the cast majority of the apps.

>>53718647
Do it anyways anon! I believe in you!

>>53718647
Why don't we just make a pvp tournament and the winners get to be the party (baring scheduling)?

>>53718647
Faggot post your goddamn app. If you can write anything half-way decent, you could get in even against 20 great characters, and I'm sure there aren't that many of those.
Scheduling, composition, novelty, preferences, fetishes, planned plot threads, there is so much fucking shit that goes into deciding who gets in.

I don't remember any big game here without some surprise except maybe Blingmaker, and for the record I've been damn good at guessing.

>>53718663
One of the previous threads had scans of Starfinder: First Contact.

Contemplatives 4 lyfe.

>>53718713
Oh yeah? Well tell us one of your picks before, and your picks for Ensoulment now.

>>53718348
Nope, Valeriya is going to give birth to a curly haired blonde and Casimir will know he got bamboozled!

>>53718647
C'mon man. There are at least several apps in the works. People talk about the apps that were posted days ago and Ensoulment has steady discussion. Protag would probably be delighted to see another good app, so make it fucking good!

>>53718737
It's not worthwhile making guesses before the last stretch of an app period, people jump the gun way too fast on most games when apps change and players hold off.

I'm not the only person who plays bingo with apps and usually I'm pretty consistent with other lists I see. I personally think most DMs find one or two apps they love and build parties around them, so usually I can guess most of them working off of what I think is the sure-in and taking into account all the schedules but I've more or less never been 100% right and the defeatist attitude of some people here annoys me so much.

>>53718881
I think thats true, DMs see one or two apps they feel are perfect and then build the rest of the party to fit with that or to fill out roles.

It makes it REALLY hard to predict who will get into a given game, unless the number of good apps is low OR you're in the DM's head

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>Bomb-focused Alchemist in a Path of War campaign

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Have you kissed a dark knight today, /pgg/?

>>53718985
Not in 12,000 years...

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>>53718999

That is a very long time anon, but I'm sure he will be happy to see you again!

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>>53718985
Did somebody smooch Kyras? Did somebody smooch Kyras right on the lips?

>>53719031
Who the hell is Kyras.

>>53719056
Isn't she the iconic cleric?

>>53719056
Look anon if you don't know shitty memes you're better off not asking about them. Just take a seat and do your best to ignore them until they make themselves apparent to you.

>>53719074
No, her name is Kyra, no "s"

>>53718985
Do not kiss a Dark Knight.

They are smelly and mean-tempered.

>>53719137
No, you're thinking of /pfg/ browsers.

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>making a character
>not for any campaign in particular
>not sure what Chargen rules to use
>instead decide to make multiple unfinished sheets that can be quickly adjusted for different games.
So what levels sould the sheets be? I was thinking of 1, 3, 5, 10, 12, and 15? In your experience, what are the most common levels that campaigns start at?

>>53719157
I'll have you know I smell fucking great.

>>53719182
>what are the most common levels that campaigns start at?

The vast majority of campaigns around here start at level 3.

>>53719189
You get pats.

>>53719031
Yes.
Dalia and Kamelia both have

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>>53718985
No, I want to kiss a Hellknight!

...But a dark knight is fine too.

>>53717701
>femto-aggressions
GRIFFFIIIIIIIIIITH!!

So is that Dimensional Ark Abyssia time extension happening, or...?

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>>53719189
I wish I smelled good. No matter how many times I shower or use deodorant/antiperspirant, I always end up smelling like onions.

Unless I work outside shitless, but then I usually just smell like soil.

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Stat me.

Are there any classes similar to the monk that can fire magical beams? Hand-to-hand ability is a must.

>>53719323
A monk with UMD

>>53719314
1pp or 3pp?

>>53719323
That one unarmed archetype for the Magus? Also Kineticist I guess, but that's only if you want your own powers to slowly kill you, or if you're using Legendary Kineticists

Or a Sorcerer/Scaled Fist Monk/Eldritch Knight multiclass with that one feat that lets you channel bloodline powers through your fists

>>53719314
Middle Aged Commoner 1

>>53719323
UC Monk with elemental Ki Powers and Blood Crow Strike?

>>53719367
>1pp or 3pp?

Let's use JttW rules and say he's a level 10 Gestalt with 3pp.

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>>53719401
>Let's use JttW rules and say he's a level 10 Gestalt with 3pp.

>Bushi Warlord || Avowed (Fae) with Guardian Spirit feat

Easy peasy, lemon-squeezy.

>>53719314
Expert/Fighter from a setting with commonplace guns, maxed ranks in Profession (Pilot).

>>53719323
Anything using elemental flux

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>>53719314
>mfw I desperately wanted to make a Not!William for JttW
>mfw you just brought it up and refreshed the memory of that game

IT'S
NOT
FAIR

>>53719401
Bushi War->>53719437
Dangit, beat me to it

>>53719475
I don't know about the current apps, but there's dozens of othr character ideas you can steal, like a Sun-Wukong knockoff or something

>>53719475
>Not welcoming competition

I think I might have autism.

>>53719680
We all do, but what made you realize you had the 'tism?

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Aside from Improved Initiative, what are some other great feats for Wizards? Assume a somewhat generalist spell set

>>53719680
Welcome to the club.

>>53719732
metamagic feats, crafting feats, spell focus

>>53719732
Spell Perfection and Spell Specialization. Varisian Tattoo/Mage's Tattoo if you're specializing in a school.

>>53718946
I approve. Who's to say dynamite is not a martial art.

Is using the sword a martial art? Why? It's not your fists.

Is using a spear a martial art? Why? How is it possibly a martial art when you don't even use an axe with it?

How could unarmed combat possibly ever be a martial art when you don't even have instant transmission and soul bombs?

>Dynamite. MY martial art.

>>53719732
As a wizard your focus should be crafting and metamagic usually. Leave the mundane stuff to the normies

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I don't know where else to ask, but the Nioh talk is making me listen to Saoirse's Theme and I need some other music to continue this feel. Anybody got recommends?

For an idea of what I'm looking for:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gRuXVj-z9Y&

I honestly don't know what's worse: Golarion, my DM world literally made from video game RPG locations (Azeroth and Skyrim aren't far from each other), or my half-baked late Renaissance/early Enlightenment setting. How do I into worldbuilding specifically for PF, seeing as apparently nobody here likes Golarion?

>>53719844
Actually plenty of us here like Golarion. Those of us just don't talk about it because it pulls the people who hate it out of the woodwork.

I've never played pathfinder before. Never even heard of it to be honest. I play a lot of Dark Heresy (warhammer) and DnD though, so I have some inkling of idea how tabletop games work. I have a core book and Im obviously going to flip through it.

But while I'm doing that, I'd like to hear some cool character ideas from you guys to help with inspiration. Maybe some "One time I made a character that..." stories?

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>>53719844
>How do I into worldbuilding specifically for PF, seeing as apparently nobody here likes Golarion?

Three words, buckaroo.

Thirty Years War.

Look up that conflict, look up all the bullshit that happened before and after it, and then build a setting for that. Now you've got a setting that's not only wet with conflict, but makes sense within the purview of your typical fantasy campaign.

>>53719870
My god. Listen to this man.

>>53719844
In my opinion the RPG on seems to be worse, but that could be the TES lore nerd in me sperging out.

As for Golarion, some of us don't hat it, bt I know many of us, myself included, are just kinda disappointed in how much wasted potential it has. With a good GM rewriting parts of it it can be cool though.

>>53719862
>I play a lot of Dark Heresy (warhammer) and DnD though,
Pathfinder is basically 3.5e D&D, with a shiny coat of paint and most all of th same problems and issues. It was literally made and marketed to attract grognards who felt upset when 4e was released

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Did anybody save the stats for Gray Maiden Plate? I have this image, but need those stats for it.

>>53719812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqx79ysEmwY

like this?

>>53719870
I'll keep that in mind. I do have the old "A Mighty Fortress" splat for 2E on hand, so I'll give that a read.

>>53719918
It's just normal plate with a special name that looks a specific way. Same cost and everything.

>>53719919
Nah, I'm just looking for softer, more melancholic stuff that stirs the soul.

>>53719965
thanks mate.

>>53719812
https://youtu.be/Ln86ud26hhU
https://youtu.be/75QC59i-dIY
https://youtu.be/-_wKk3RIsv8
https://youtu.be/6ibj6Q0YQ20 (favorite of the bunch, also one of my favorite childhood movies)
https://youtu.be/3V9zxXN1rx0

Just a few, will this do well for you?

>>53719252
It's a bamboozle son.

>>53720047
Glorious, thank you!

>>53720097
It wouldn't surprise me, Exhack has basically gone full incommunocado

So are there any awesome-looking examples of of art of somewhat-buff women in hide armor out there?

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>>53720471
I've got a little.

>>53720387
Except with the 2 or 3 people that keep saying that game isn't a bamboozle, it's getting an extension, etc. He doesn't seem to have a problem communicating with them. And he plays in Overlewd and LoBaF and WWW apparently without issue.

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>>53720520
>>53720471

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>>53720471
You need to give us more to work off, what's her hair and eye color?

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>>53720471

>>53720577
Nothing special, other than being a druid or ranger type

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>>53720471
Does this count as hide?

Aaaa I'm trying to seduce a cute elf but my character is known for being racist against elves what do.

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>>53720633
>>53720471
Or maybe this? I adore the artist.

>>53720634
Breed the half-breed

>>53720660
He's an elf, not a half-elf.
And he's surprisingly masculine for an elf.
I fear I may have offended him with my prior comments.

>>53720634
Didn't know you swung that way, Wist--QANON aside.

>>53720634
Keep being racist until you end up in a compromising situation together, then reveal your vulnerable side and rely on narrative momentum.

Alternatively, treat him like an animal and walk around naked in front of him because he "doesn't count as a person" until he pounces.

>>53720688
I'm not Wist, nor Anti-wist, nor QANON. I am anti-elf. But I still like them.

>>53720697
Finally, some good advice.
Ty.

>>53720633
That's the problem, is finding something that's plainly hide and not leather-in-disguise. Or how to even really tell the difference without getting all greebly and super-complicated.

>>53720471
You can't find any art of a woman in hide armor, anon, because it's HIDE armor. It's for stealth!

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>>53720471

Open question, does clothing really matter that much in character art for you? You won't see it on the token, and throughout the run there's a good chance you'll change clothes anyways isn't there?

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>>53720809
I applied to a game as a heavily armored knight with this image once before. I try to find something that fits, but the character is more important than the gear.

>>53720809
It matters a bit. For first impressions, though you can crop the portrait like you said.

>>53720809
Honestly next time I app to a game I'll probably not use a picture at all

>>53720809
Clothing is good for establishing mood and background of a character. Itsimportant for first impressions and the tone the player is going for with the character

>>53720809
I draw my own art and worry sometimes if the clothing is too revealing, even if the character I'm playing is supposed to be the party face and a bard to boot.

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>>53720851
Embrace the sexy, anon!

>>53720809
Related, if you know the character is going to start in one kind of armor and aim for a different kind of armor, when picking art do you go for the starting armor or the endgame armor?

>>53720883
Starting armor, definitely.

>>53720851
I'd say as long as you don't go full Red Sonja you're good(unless it's a sexy barbarian, of course!)

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>>53720872
To be honest, they're usually in more clothing than some of the other players, but it's cut high or low or in certain ways. It's just anxiety I guess.

FotJR got a late start tonight

>Everyone freaking out because of fear
>Saboten accidentally headpats Aster while furiously pounding a Yeth Hound with her tentacles
>This banishes the Fear. Saboten is best surrogate big sister!
>Glorious Goblin Puppet finally gets a hit in.
>Shalelu runs away. Bravely runs away, away!
>Sweettooth takes the shot, finishing the bastards off.
>Tia puts out the "Candle of everyone wants to fugg."
>Rubio finds the head of Lonjiku behind the alter.
>Apparently the gnolls were eating his body.
>Aster and Tia give Quinn a scarf to cover up after Sweettooth's shot.
>Saboten lends Shalelu a new shirt that shows off plenty of cleavage to replace the one Sweettooth ruined.
>Party begins to Open Doors.
>His Majesty the Goblin King goes in first to soak arrow fire.
>But there's no arrow fire to be soaked.
>Only an office with keys for Aster to steal.
>And a suspiciously empty torture chamber.
>And a room where a bunch of Goblin Babes are having an orgy with a minotaur with an impressively large... spear...
>Sessions ends off with the Minotaur whipping out his spear after Quinn made his goblinette harem explode all over the room.

>>53720938
good god.

>>53720938
finally, the lewd starts!

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>>53720851
We'll be the judge of that, post some!

>>53720830
Allow me to speak wisdom.

Character in Clothes > Character in Starting Armor = Cropped Image > Blatant Fetish Art > Joke Art/Video-Game Character

Character in Starting Armor staying relevant until the Character finds their final armor, often plate, and the avatar changing to reflect that is patrician-tier.

>>53720938
Inb4 /pgg/ does its thing and just screeches KEK KEK KEK GET OUT SOTJR IS BETTER

>>53721015
I like both groups!

>>53721008
or be a monk or wizard and wear the same outfit forever (wash it please)

>>53721008
Full headshots are the best, it's just ten times the effort to find an appropriate one if they exist at all.

>>53721015
Not gonna lie, the players are okay, but adding all this silly lewd shit is really a bad idea.

Rise of the Runelords' strengths are that it gets dark and horrifying and doesn't pull punches. Having to deal with "OH NO MUH TITTIES/DONGER FLOPPED OUT LOLOLO" every session would be just fucking infuriating if I had to go straight from that into gritty torture dungeon and back.

>>53721138
Nobody forced you to apply to a lewd campaign, if they like it, let them enjoy it, fuccboi

>>53721008
what about Character in Endgame Armor?

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>>53720981
Had to shrink it down a bit, the file's a little big.

>>53721170
Cute!

>>53721138
the dice were not kind senpai

so many 1's, I still hear the sound of the tief's agonized internal screaming

>>53721170
T H I C C
H
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C
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If you were to just close the top up and include the *hint* of cleavage instead of actual cleavage it might help with your perception.

>>53721170
Wow dude, that is very nice. do you do commissions? I'd be willing to pay a little for art of that level.

sure, it's not professional quality, but somethings I just want some lineart, and you clearly know how to do good looking women.

I want to run a game where the characters are high school/jr. high students and their characters are the PCs.

Is the any interest?

>>53721199
So we're roleplaying as roleplayers?

>>53721199
Maybe? Sell me on it.

>>53721199
>the characters are high school/jr. high students
>their characters are the PCs
Sheherazade card, the game?
Or are you proposing a Persona-style high school game?

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>>53721170
Not sure about as character art, but I like it nonetheless

You ever have an idea that you want to app with, but don't know how to start actually writing the thing?

>>53721245
Sometimes I have the opposite.

>>53721264
What do you mean?

Anons, i'm looking at Entropist (http://spheresofpower.wikidot.com/entropist) and Kinetic Mystic (http://spheresofpower.wikidot.com/kinetic-mystic)

It's easy enough to meet the prereqs for Kinetic Mystic as an Entropist (you can meet the skill prereqs and your... weird, prepared wild talent stuff counts as psychic spellcasting). The only thing you can't get as an Entropist is any of the Spellstrike-alikes that are also required.

Is there any way to get Spellstrike, or a similar class feature, through a 1-level dip, or preferably, without touching dipping at all? Currently I'm looking at a Magus 2/Entropist 4/Kinetic Mystic 4. Alternatively, I can bite the bullet and do Entropist VMC Magus, and at 11th, take my first level of Kinetic Mystic (while retaining MOSTLY full progression of talents but delaying it to the endgame)

What are your thoughts on it, anons? What should I gestalt with it on the side?

>>53721180
>>53721192
Thank you and thank you! People from this thread inadvertently helped me with the building, so. I'll see about wiggling the top up a bit.

>>53721197
Not yet, but maybe I'll post in thread when I'm open again. Thank you for your interest!

Ok, back to lurking.

>>53721312
I'm a little late, but you're a cool guy and it's a nice drawing, keep up the good work

>>53721302
Sometimes I have a gimmick in mind but no actual character of any sort, so I literally know, "I'm going to write my app with this in mind" but I still haven't decided on a class or backstory.

It's... weird.

>>53721245
All the time, hell, my currant app is like that. After the first paragraph it just feels like a mess no matter how I slice it.

>>53721138
The minotaur's flopped-out dong is actually in the game already. It's just that it's a bugbear instead of a minotaur.

>>53721323
I realize I left this unclear so I'd like to give an example. In this case I did end up finishing the app for fun, but I had a JttW app I didn't end up posting due to being unavailable for the schedule.

Before I decided on what I was actually going to play, I knew right off the bat that I wanted to present it as a story teller performance in the vein of rakugo or stage plays, with an introduction of the era and the character told dramatically.

Most of the time it's more like "I have some lines I really want to work with" though.

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I want to play a druid, but I'm not sure where to go in terms of personality/appearance. There's always the generic "I like nature" route, but that's kinda boring. Where would you take it?

>>53721522
Druids are gay so i wouldn't play one

>>53721522
In my eye druids should be a little extreme to preserve nature. Considering domestication of animals an affront to the natural order and absolute anathema. Doing stuff like killing woodsmen who do not properly respect the tree before chopping it down, then feeding him to the roots, that kind of stuff.

Where da review anons at?

>>53721567
That's shit tier advice for a *member of a party*. That'd be good for some sort of nightmarish pod person monster (probably int 5-6) though.

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>>53721008
>Video-Game Character

What if it's a kind of obscure video game?

I hate most ratfolk art but I like Zosha.

>>53721522
if you like curvy women, try looking at the Feyspeaker archetype.
http://archivesofnethys.com/ArchetypeDisplay.aspx?FixedName=Druid%20Feyspeaker

The implicatiopn is that your character is a mediator between the fey and mortals, which creates an entirely different dynamic than the usual "hurr durr nature" thing a lot of the more evil druids go for.

>>53721615
would you spl@ the R@

>>53721590
Sup?

>>53721626
i'd rather p@ a c@

>>53721639
Review Ensoulment characters!

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>>53721626
Rat is silent and violent killings, not sexual.

Unless that rat is Freya, I have a soft spot for her.

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>>53721522
Base him off of Steve Irwin, or that one old guy from Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom. I like to play my Druids as more of an Ecologist/Biologist type person. Someone who finds beauty in the intricacies of nature, free from petty human morality and concerns, and seeks to understand and learn how to live their life from it.

Nature is Nature, it is neither beautiful nor ugly. Nature concerns itself not with what humans deem as right or fair, it is an ongoing dance of life, death, birth, killing, creation, and destruction. To disrupt or usurp such part for profit is folly and shortsighted when done so without understanding how the process works. It is by careful understanding and learnign how the nature around us has adapted and grown, free of human bias and hubris, that one can learn to benefit and harness its power.

Also, I recommend A Sand County Almanac by Aldo Leopold as required reading if you wanna go the Ecologist route of Druid

>>53721668
I already reviewed most of them.

Who do you want done?

>>53721681
Jericho! The new version!

>>53721681
>Reviewed most of them
>50~ characters
PROTAGONIST!?

>>53721681
Review Gaius

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>>53721681

Vandread. He is cute.

>>53721724
Jericho and Varius are cuter!

>>53721669
Oh my god will you guys shut up about that miserable meme character?

Being the second iteration of a rejected app is nothing to be proud of.

>>53721724
Vandread is the worst fucking meme.

>>53721751
nigga they're not even talking about Rinka, fuck, Rinka didn't even APPLY to RotJR

>>53721694
It's DHB, what do you want me to say?

Character is competent, and actually fits the tone of the game. Dunno what the character looked like initially, but I like the current revision (barring some grammatical issues and problems with repetition in the vignette.)

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>>53721741

You can't be cuter than a giant armored murderbeast who doesn't know how to react around small girls.

>>53721758

I'm sorry you feel that way. Maybe if you were more accepting in your heart, the dark Overlord would bless you too!

>>53721768
If you've seen one rat, you've seen them all. It's basically gnollposting.

>>53721771
Tell me about Aurelia

>>53721771
Are there other apps you think changed for the better?

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>>53721751
>implying

Nigga I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

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Hey guys, I'm looking at the Flexible Wizardy spell line, and I'm unsure if these are any good. I mean, being able to have flexible slots seems like it makes Schrodinger's Wizard an active ingame force, but maybe I'm overhyping it. Plus Spell Mastery is an annoying tax.

Also, would it be worth picking up Split Slot alongside these feats as well? Or would it be too redundant? I mean, the Wizard I'm currently building is already super redundant in terms of spont-casting from his class features and PrC, I'm not sure If I need to double-down or not.

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>>53721775
>all I want is to charm a giant armored man

>I am never in a game with any, just all these underaged girls, hugely buxom women, small boys or old men

>>53721831
>spell line
*feat line
Sorry, its late

>>53721836
I used to make giant armored men all the time until /pfg/ scared me off of the concept.

>>53721836
You could always just choose a hunky knight and PM them.

Lord knows their players are thirsty as fuck.

>>53721836
>Armored Men, or just actual men are now a rare thing

>>53721710
Withholding judgement for now.

There are other apps that touch on the necessity of story/entertainment, but none I've seen acknowledge the emptiness of the spectacle. It's a clever twist, that could give rise to an interesting character. At some point. In the future. But as it stands, this is a skeleton, not a character.

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>>53721851
God. God damn it.

>>53721856
And have to deal with an underaged girl, a hugely buxom woman, a small boy or an old man? I'd rather live in this armorless hell.

>>53721856
>>53721887
Oh wait, I read the post wrong. That is how sad I am. Or did I? Oh god.

I guess desperate times.

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>>53721836
>tfw don't really like having anything more than medium armor
>tfw I don't even really get a chance to play those
>every time I make a fucking Str character they end up super fucking short for some reason
>meanwhile all my dexfags are lanklets

>>53721887
Just PM Sleep or Slow, they make heavily armored STRfag characters all the damn time.

Here's a shitpost summary of all the characters for JttW

>Yamaguchi Yuudai
Another goddamn nodachifag? get out
>Língmèng Qīng
Touhou/10
>Tsubaki Higashiyama
Oni-chan please notice me
>Yumiko Ryuikiatsu
Sappy tries to throw off the shackle of memes
>Koji
/ss/
>Mira "Mia" Covinus
"My name is Fox Tits. You killed my best friend the Dalai Lama. Prepare to die."
>Jun Fan
Sleep tries to throw off the shackles of memes
>Wen Yijun
It's Sun Wukong but shittier
>Shosouga no Kazuki
There's NOTHING THERE
>Yin Xue Hua
Eugenics and You: How To Create Your Very Own Übermensch!
>Bai Santaizi
Handlebars
>Herald of the Twilight, Loke Laufey
Literally just shittier Loki
>Huan Shuang
I bet she's got a really big dick
>Raimi
Rory why did you bamboozle us with TSS, the fucking potoo pirate fit in there much better than in here, Jesus fucking Christ
>Naomi Tsubaki
If Huan had the big dick, Naomi has the big sack.
>Shízhōng
"My stand, [STUPIDLY ENORMOUS], is the best in the world!"
>The Red Maiden (红女孩)
Chine called, they want their Great Wall back
>Serizawa Gin / Serizawa Ion
Wist tries to break the shackles of memes,
>Seong Jimin
Literally too boring to shitpost about.

>>53721771
>(barring some grammatical issues and problems with repetition in the vignette.)
I need to go back and fix these. I did both the original and the rewrite while very tired, which was a mistake.

>>53721887
Those character descriptions sound mightily specific, mind giving us the lowdown?

>>53721871
What would you suggest to make it better?

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>>53721836
I almost always play armored men or dashing tricksters, regardless of how hard the system tries to jew me.

I don't really App often, though.

>>53721939
Jun Fan should make a cameo as a corpse. It'd be a fitting way to throw him in without it being too indulgent.

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>>53721887
Sorry bud, I like playing heavily armored characters, but i almost always play women. It's actually a bit of a personal issue, now that I think about it - for some reason I just cannot stand the thought of playing a guy.

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>>53721939
>Raimi
>Rory why did you bamboozle us with TSS, the fucking potoo pirate fit in there much better than in here, Jesus fucking Christ

He's not getting in anyway. It would ruin his whole shtick if he got a break.

>>53721870

>post armored men
>post actual men with a robust physique
>called a 'bad app'
>everyone clamours for anime fuckbois with amental derangement or tortured past

You literal fags brought this on yourselves.

>>53721984

You have a deep unsettling homophobia that is the result of your actual homosexuality.

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>>53721939
>I bet she's got a really big dick

at this point I should just remake the app as a dude, shouldn't I
可疑凸起

>>53721871
You could probably stand to give the guy some reasons instead of blowing him off.

>>53721836
The age of hunky, armored men may have it's ups and downs, but it will never truly die.

>>53722020
I'm pretty sure /pgg/ has been all over traditionally masculine characters forever. I can't think of a single anime fuckboi that's popular here.

>>53721796
Fucked if I know.

I don't pay attention to individual apps unless I'm actively reviewing them.

>>53721954
Ah. Since you're actually here, and this isn't just mindless shitposting, I'll try to give you something a little more substantial.

>>53721959
Two major things come to mind, first, figure out who this character is, what his personality is like, and how the philosophy shapes his day-to-day life. Second, I'd tie the backstory (which you spend an inordinate amount of time on, given how simple it is and the length of the piece) into his current beliefs and outlook. The point of a history is to explain where the character came from and they are the way they are. Which it currently doesn't do.

The key to a successful app (at least in my experience) is keeping the narrative flowing. Each point should logically lead to the next.

>>53722044
What more is there to say about an incomplete app?

>>53722038
Don't you fucking dare. Oni girls are precious. But still.
>>No barbarian levels
you sicken me.

>>53722031
Actually given I'm a girl, I just hate the thought of being mistaken for a guy when I'm actually ingame online, and I'm not sure why the thought offends me so much.

>>53722061

Maybe its just Vult shilling his own dumbass apps.

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>>53722064
Oni, you say?

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>>53722063
>spend an inordinate amount of time on
>mfw 12 pages
O I'm laffin

>>53722073
Aren't all of Vult's apps Aisha?

>>53722080
>bodyguard/concubine
is this why so many lewdgames are gestalt?

>>53722063
>Ah. Since you're actually here, and this isn't just mindless shitposting, I'll try to give you something a little more substantial.
It is ok. I am mostly satisfied with the current version after I clarified his goals and ideals.

>>53722064
I mean, I would take Barbarian VMC but >10 Con

>>53722072

I think you'd find it easier to get around in social groups when people blanket think of you as 'just another dude' than the shitty attention being a verified internet female brings.

>>53722093
Yes.

>>53722116
>10 con
W H Y

>>53722084
>given the length of the piece

Friendo, if you wanna start shit, you're gonna have to try harder than that.

And it's 13 pages.

>>53722111
Shit, you figured it out.
Now I'm gonna have to make you dead/buried

>>53722125
Disk you have a problem.

>>53722118
Eh, most groups that don't have a troglodyte in them are pretty cool regardless of what sort of plumbing you have. I'm more concerned about my apparent inability to expand my character idea pool.

>>53722136
Of course I do.

I'm here.

>>53722148
Don't do this to yourself

Seek help.

Asking again!

So for my character in JttW I've nearly settled on a Prophet Covetous cursed Intrigue mystery Oracle | Geisha Demagogue Bard.

I'm thinking of switching out Demagogue for Celebrity, but my overall ability to support falls because I no longer have Inspire Courage, but then again I'm a celebrity.

What do you guys think? Demagogue or Celebrity?

I am also considering whether I should up my overall buffing ability and switch from Intrigue to a more buffing oriented mystery. My plan is to be relatively heavy on the support.

Also, funnily enough with the combination of Geisha and Demagogue I will be able to have a tea ceremony in order to cause a riot.

>>53722063
But what do you think of Broodie's second attempt at a character

>>53722148
Don't ever change, you're one of the only personalities I like here. Faggot.

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>>53722123
Altered Life my nigga, though I'm still debating bumping up to 12 just to stave off Con damage.

I kind of unironically want someone to tear her apart with a review, just because I feel like
I hit a brick wall.

>>53722063
I can see some of that. I have a personality in mind, but I think I do a poor job of explaining it. I'm a bit confused on the backstory length thing. I hear from some that things need to be longer and more detailed, and from others I hear that it needs to be short and concise. Is the current version just trying to do to much, or is it just not tightly written enough?

>>53722173
>hear from some that things need to be longer and more detailed, and from others I hear that it needs to be short and concise

It's personal preference. The background should be exactly as long as it needs to be to tell us everything you think is important about the PC. Anything less is failing to put your best foot forward; anything more is self-indulgence. My point wasn't that it needs to be longer, it was that you're missing key information, while spending a great deal of time ruminating on aspects that have no visible impact on character.

From my reading, the writing isn't tight enough. I could cut a paragraph's worth of text, and lose very little. Which, in a bio that short, is a death sentence.

>>53722241
Hey man, do me a solid and put on a trip. Please.

>>53722173
I'd like to say that while I agree with Reviewaloo's analysis, I think the quality of your prose is solid and your efforts to show personality through the backstory instead of keeping a separate block for it shows nicely.

Do make those cuts like he said, but keep your strengths in mind here when you're doing so.

>>53722241
Could you possibly take another look at Ichabod for EotFC? You don't have to if you don't want to.

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>>53721984
>dat sallet
>The torn up yet practical look of the armor
>dat actually protective and not over-bulky breastplate
>the tattered surcoat
>the very subtle hint of femininity
The only thing keeing this as a 9/10 is the lck of proper leg protection. Very much me gusta

>>53722260
Never mind, turns out the filter is really finicky about spaces. Just one at the end and the whole gosh-darned thing won't work.

>>53722093
>Ryuko Trap Healslut
>WotR 1 and 2
>Trigger Twins
>Assassin Girl for HV
>Rodrick
>Titania

>>53722317
Can you list DHB's apps please?

>>53722323
>A literal barrel of monkey with guns
that's all I got, sorry, I'm drunk

Just that "vult only apps with Aisha" is a shitty meme.