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A few minutes too late edition.

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Elf waifus soon(tm)

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>want a mod that makes the damsels look different from each other based on their Lores
>find it
>don't like the look of them

Well fuck me then.

>>53716827
What do they look like?

>>53716827
I like that mod. Damsels have some more overt elvish influence, especially the lore of beasts one.

>>53717084
>>53717084
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=939472379

>>53716790

> Elf crocs.

No thanks.

>>53717361
>on 4chan
>doesn't like elf feet

>>53717126
Hm. I kind of like them. Thanks for the link.

>>53717090
It's an alright mod, I just don't really like the look they went with. Can't say what would make it better - I would've been happy with different dress colors I guess.

>>53717699
I wonder if greenskin posture could be transposed on to damsel bodies to make some hunchbacked crone damsels.

>>53717896
I dunno, it might make their models look twisted. But I'm pretty sure it's in the lore that all damsels are young, and there don't seem to be any old ones. Of course, in Kislev it's a miracle to get a practitioner of magic that's a young woman...

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>>53717896

I don't think I want to see what that looks like.

>>53718067
>>53717896
it will look like a bugged model. You can't change the skeletons in the game so no hunchbacked crones sadly.
I tried using dwarfs with human heads as a stand in for halflings.
it was bad.

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Do any of you use your Warhammer collections to play skirmish games now and then?

I remember someone here posted an 'Oldhammer' warband of 80's models on round bases and he said he used it to play Oldhammer with, but to my knowledge Oldhammer is 3rd edition. I just wondered if he was still here or if anyone knew what he was on about?

>>53718151
I remember someone made Kislev war bears out of reskinned Demigryphs, they looked ridiculous.

There's also those mods for Empire Merc Ogres that were basically scaled-up bald Slayers/half-naked Irondrakes, they were hilarious.

>>53718067
Why isn't there a Hogwarts faction modded in to Warhammer Total War?

>>53718455
Because Hufflepuff would be too OP.

>>53718455
Ilvermony>Hogwarts.

>>53718455
winds of magic would deplete fast and then you would have a bunch of sub par melee units.

>>53718600
Seeing a bunch of nerds flailing uselessly at charging cavalry would be pretty funny.

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Vlad and Isabella are cute.

>>53719983
Vlad and Isabella were the best! Manfred is a stupid nerd that can't stop slobbing on Nagash.

>>53719983
It seems fitting: the greatest romance of the setting isn't between Karl Franz and his waifu, or Leoun and his lady, but between two undead beings who swore of the shackles of humanity years ago and are twisted in everything but their devotion for each other. How lovely, yet grimdark.

Well, technically Orion and Ariel count as a romance, but it's never really looked at much.

>>53720036
Karl Franz has a waifu?

>>53720107
He's got a wife and two kids.

>>53720180
Do we even know their names?

>>53720036
Is it really a romance or is it just like the high elf queen and king that just freely do whomever they want?

>>53720197
No, that’s how relevant they are!

>>53720197
We know his son is named Luitpold, but that's all I know.

>>53720232
Considering that Orion and Ariel were once two elves, but were sacrificed to the forest to act as their eternal rulers, I'm pretty sure it is a romance.

>>53720197
His son is Luitpold. He features in a few of the Genevieve novels.
And I think his nephew is Wolfgang. He's the Crown Prince in The Enemy Within, but I can't actually find his specific relation.

>>53719983
>nu-Vlad and nu-Isabella

No End Times allowed. End Times means everything published after 2006 by the way, including those shitty new models.

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>>53720331
Its based of their Total war warhamemr models. Which doesnt include the end times.

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>>53720331
I'm going to keep some of the art and some of the unique regiments, though. That stuff was the shit and can easily be brought back into pre-ET stuff half the time.

Besides, a few even have interesting tidbits of fluff - one of the undead regiments mentions how necromantic energy actually changes the designs on shields and banners. It helps explain why apparently every VC skeleton has bats and skulls and shit on their shields.

>>53691534
>3e was rough but it had the germ of something cool in it.

Yeah, it's called Star Wars: Edge of the Empire.

Much as I love that system, I will never not be bitter at FFG for essentially using WHFRPG 3e as a beta test for it.

Honestly, percentile really just fits warhammer better. It's far less heroic.

Are there any sources that explain how the Bretonnian navy is so modern while the army is so ass backward, and how the crews interact with the rest of society? Like, are they all technically knights, and just ignore the fact that they're swabbing poop decks, or are they all peasants and ignore that they are extraordinarily well trained in such a shitty society?

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>>53720331
It's based on their TWW incarnations, which are a direct antithesis to the end times.

>>53721849
The rules of the land dont apply to the rules of the sea. Also i imagine the crew are city dwellers, whos fathers were sailors or are mainly hired sailors from Tilea and Estalia.

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>>53721849
Quite frankly it's just a bit of older lore that never got changed as the setting did, and they've just awkwardly stepped around the issue. If someone wanted, they could probably explain it without breaking the lore too badly - I might even take a shot at it someday as a bit of headcanon - but even those who don't like the state of the Bretonnian navy don't really have an organized idea of what it should be instead.

As to your question, I think that's explained/implied well enough in that old Bretonnian navy lore - the nobles act as officers, the peasants act as crewmen, sailors, and possibly 'marines.' Probably based a lot on the British navy - they might even have midshipmen, if anyone ever cared to go into that. The lowest ranking ships - the Buccaneers - are crewed by conscripted prisoners, however, and probably only have a few nobles on board, if at all.

And it's not as if peasants can't be educated or trained, otherwise there wouldn't be any merchants or Men-at-Arms or architects or scholars.

>>53721994
I like to imagine that Bret naval bases have a relative bubble of normality around the docks where there is a functioning middle class and sailors can be catered to, but as soon as you're beyond it shit goes full ye olde medievale times with stupid peasants and noble questing knights and damsels.

Who is best Dorf?

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>>53722877
Bugman. The only way to tell how good a dwarf is is by his age. Well Josef Bugman was one of the first characters of the setting, let alone one of the first dwarves, and he was around to the very end. He's the best dwarf.

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>>53718212
to my knowledge anon there is
Warhammer Warbands,

Warhammer Skirmish

Regiments of renown 100p.

Mordheim.

Those are all the skirmish level games I know of, you could make Regiments of renown or warbands work for any ed really.my personal favourite is regiments of renown

Warhammer, AOS and other Wargames discord, roughly 140 members. Git on in here! Rep the old world!

https://discord.gg/Zeh7nhC

>>53721906
every time you press end turn Bela'cuck screams

So in WRP2nd if I fail a parry my enemy doesn't need to throw WS to hit me?

>>53724465
What happens to him whenever you save-scum (assuming you're not playing any Chaos-based faction)?

>>53725182
He REEEs again

>>53724938
It says on page 129 of the Core Rule book, that if the incomming hit is successful, meaning the WS test to hit was a succes, then the defender maybe roll a WS-test to parry it. Only one parry per round is allowed.

>>53725246
The translation I'm reading didn't tell a thing about WS throw before the parry (but it does in the dodge description) but it does have sense, thanks!

So parries and dodges work like: Enemy WS throw > Parry/Dodge throw > Enemy Damage throw

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>>53725287
That seems to be the correct sequence of melee combat. And the fact that you only have 1 dodge attempt and 1 Parry attempt per round, is nice so that combat does not necessarily turn into a large dice-rolling fest, but keeps it relatively fast paced. This also means that being ganged up on is hell for melee fighters.

>>53724938
You can't parry if enemy did fail his WS roll to hit you anon.

>>53722482
I find it's easier to just blank out the caricature-level retarded depictions of the peasants in the later stuff. I mean, they're obviously simple folk, but a society can't really function if the bulk of it is functionally brain dead.

They don't need cannons in their armies because their knights are so potent. So they just pile them onto their fleets instead. Peasant sailors don't have to worry about vows of chivalry and losing the blessing of the lady.

Shame we never got to see a more modern take on their navy, though. Pegasus knights acting like fantasy carrier jets would be the coolest shit

>>53720036
Tyrion and Alarielle are better.

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Anyone one have some Warhammer looking tokens for roll20? Finding skavens is really hard.

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Hey so I'm learning warhammer 8th while playing and using my empire arm against my opponents wood elves, this is my 565p army list. What sort of things should I be looking at including in this sort of list?

++ Standard (Empire - Army Book (2013-4) -V8.8.2.) [567pts] ++

+ Heroes +

Battle Wizard [100pts]: Wizard Level 2

+ Core +

Knightly Orders Inner Circle [135pts]: 5x Knightly Orders Inner Circle, Lance and Shield, Musician

Swordsmen [212pts]: Champion, Musician, Standard Bearer, 16x Swordsmen
. Archers: 5x Archers
. Archers: 5x Archers

+ Special +

Great Cannon [120pts]

++ Total: [567pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net)

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>>53725734
I use ones adapted from Dominions 4 mods. Would they suit your purposes?

>>53726003
Yes it would be nice, thank you.

>>53726014
http://www.llamaserver.net/sombre/Dominions3/Mods/ModCatalogue/

Skaven at the bottom. They come in .tga format and need cropping so, have GIMP at the ready. Happy rolling!

>>53720107
Naieth is his true waifu. She molested shotaKarl and made him fall in love with her.

Can someone help me work out a cool slaanesh themed puzzle?

I'm running a Chaos campaign, and I intend the players to complete 4 challenges to reach the artifact they were sent to recover, what I've got so far is:

>Khorne, Fight a buffed up armoured Bloodletter (Simple enough).
>Nurgle, Each player must finish a goblet of pestilent water, any wastage from vomit or spilling causes the water to evaporate into mist that slowly chokes the room (and them in it)
>Tzeentch, The players must educate the Daemon giving the challenge by telling it a a new fact about themselves the daemon wouldn't know by watching every moment of their lives (So emotional, deep down stuff), each answer they already know results in damage.
>Slaanesh, Enchanted perfumed mists showing their greatest desires.???

>>53728668
Silly
>fuck a daemonette and avoid the reach around
>Insert a massive wang into the correct orifice but choose wisely


Serious
>Craft a weapon, sing a song, recite a saga, but do it perfectly
>Walk through a room filled with the most beguiling sights and sounds and smells imaginable, but stick to the right path or you will die so lots of willpower tests - or to quote Gandalf "the air smells less foul down here, lets go this way" a labyrinth where you don't follow the pleasant smells and sounds because doing so kills you.

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>>53730565
Nice ideas.

This is the area they would be doing it in, and I like the labyrinth idea but in a smaller room that can only be done psychologically.

The other challenges are about embodying the tenets of the gods, so I don't think avoiding nice scents and such would fit, that's really the core of my problem, making a challenge/puzzle that revolves around embracing Slaaneshism while being mechanically distinct from the "Make a series of tests to survive" Nurgle, "Kill shit" Khorne, or "Mind Problem" Tzeentch.

>>53722877
That Runesmith who's so old he remembers before the Dwarf/Elf war.

>>53730708
Well if Slaanesh is about perfection the recition should do well, or a pie eating contest, some sort of gratification need.

Fuck... Slaanesh is going to be a SAW room, the only way to get to the heroin is cutting off your fingers or filling a bottle with enough blood to change the counterweight.

>>53730922
How old can dwarves get?

>>53731059
Around 300 to 400. Runesmiths can live a LOT longer though.

What is the german word for elector count?

>>53731749
Der Grosse-Cumfts.

>>53731749
Kurfürst.

>>53730995
Got it, The Skull demands that the players perform an act purest in their greatest character flaw. They need to embrace the darkest sides of themselves fully to continue.

So if the character is Bloodthirsty, he must attack one of the others, if he is greedy, he must rob from them, too loyal? Maim themselves in the name of those they serve.

>>53722482
It doesn't hurt that on some level you're right - in short stories I've read and in the Knights of the Grail, Bordelaux and L'Anguille are portrayed as being relatively modern cities, more in control of high-ranking peasants and merchants than the disinterested nobility. L'Anguille even has cannons on its walls, and one of the prominent guild members in Bordelaux had very well trained and armed bodyguards that could put a knight to shame.

>>53718455

Staffs and beards, not faggoty wands and glasses. okay?

>>53725982

Looks alright to me but 500 points is such a small game that things may be a bit off, they were never really balanced for this level of game.

>>53724299
>Aos and fantasy share a channel

Lol.

>>53736423
In God's name, why.

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>>53736949

Because the guy who shills it is just looking for bodies.

>>53721849

The Bretonnian fleet hasn't been updated since 1994 so it's safe to assume this stuff probably isn't correct anymore.

The Bretonnias fleet is probably made up of galleys with archer castles, fire projectors and some kind of barge to launch Pegasus from.

To make them plausible I would pump their technology a few centuries ahead and make them half galleys with sails, that with magic and Pegasus should make them a match for the other navies of the Old World.

So who is your Warhams waifu?

>>53738460

Katarin, she just looks classy.

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>>53738460

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>>53738480
Good taste

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>finally finishing up my Bretonnia campaign in TW:W and doing the crusade into the Chaos Wastes
>enjoy the big battle and crush the enemy
>afterwards Leoun gets the 'likes Chaos' trait

Skaven are shitters that ruined the setting.

>>53739968
I don't understand, anon. Sure the Ratling guns were pushing things, and the Stormfiends were horrible, but I don't see how the Skaven ruined the setting.

>>53740112
Steampunk rats that are literally everywhere and randomly depopulate chunks of the world with plagues and have literal weeaboo ninja that assassinate named characters and seek to conquer the surface and easily could do so if they cared hard enough kind of take away every achievement every other race does.

You know how Chaos is fated to win? Skaven are that times a million. They number in the billions, have burrowed beneath every city, have technology leaps and bounds beyond everyone else, and any victory over them is entirely pointless because they have a secret city beyond everyone's reach. And the way they talk is annoying.

>>53740112
I think he's refering to the idea that by the fluff everything that happened in EndTimes was the skavens fault.

>>53740357
What else do you expect from a sapient race that literally breeds like rats who live in a biome where they are damn near the only occupying race in a setting where the only thing keeping anyone i n check is the constant warfare.

>>53740357
It's an awkward point where it's obvious that GW wanted races like the Skaven and Chaos to provide a constant, everpresent danger threatening to overwhelm everyone, but for so much of the time nothing could really be done with them.

And to be fair, you can't just have distant threats like the Tomb Kings or Dark Elves that probably won't attack most areas of the setting, and Orcs and Beastmen can't provide the same overwhelming threat if they're supposed to be lurking everywhere, only rarely getting up to military campaign strength.

Did you guys see the Mordheim mobile game?

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>>53740357

>skaven fated to win

We lose everything in our own codex.

Skaven are exactly what caos should have been: an everpresent, threatening opponent, which can't win by the same intrinsic qualities that make it a threat.

Skaven will always turn on themselves at the worst possible moment, will always overlook a crucial detail, their doomsday device will always malfunction at the lst possible moment.

That's what they are,narratively-speaking. They're deadly, cunning and wonderfully incompetent. They only get out-of-screen victories, and any damage they deal to the actual setting is quickly repaired back to the status quo.

The only 2 notable feat they did killing an emperor and nagash) were both far removed from the setting, and one of them actually just had them in the role of enablers

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>>53741268
>Codex
ARMY BOOK REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>53741000
no, link it if you could. did you end up buying anon?

>>53733719
cheers anon, I ended up meeting up with 2 opponents at that point amount and they just allied against my larger army.

was a 1300ish points battle where we had to have 2 rounds.

First game was steamtank explodes turn one on movement blowing up 200p of inner circle knights, a wizard, my actual cannon and my archers which caused panic(which my block of infantry passed. But I had to concede after that).

second round was 1300 empire vs 650 chaos+wood elves.
I got the rng stick again, but this time steam tank blew up turn 3 despite being unwounded and only generating 4 steam points.

I won the second round though

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Do you think it's worth getting any of the DLCs for Total Warhammer? I've got the free ones, but I've been looking at the Grim and the Grave to get a few more units for the Empire.

>>53742755

I usually find the Stank pretty hard to blow up. Have a look at some tactics on empire-online.

>>53744286
They're generally worth the money, except Beastmen and Wood Elves because of their shitty mini-campaigns, but even those provide a lot of good content for the grand campaign.

King and Warlord dlc is the best in my opinion. If you like Empire I'd say it's worth the money.

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>>53744688
I thought the Wood Elf campaign was pretty good desu
The elves were just very lackluster when they were released, but got buffed thankfully
Have they still not added followers and junk for Wood Elves?

>>53744286

Just get them all anon, still cheaper than the tabletop.

>>53744286
unless you really want to play as beastmen/chaos/wood elves, no. the other stuff with RoR and units/lords, yes.

>>53741000
WHAT

AWESOME

>>53742755
steam tank at 1300 points? an inefficient use of engineering imho. they're overpowered at 1000pts not 1300
>>53740357

chill, anon-anon, it's only fiction. also try not to suck that skaven dong too much. they're only hideous chaos rat creatures that live for a few years and then die, famalam

tl;dr skaven are small-time villains who job hard against most creatures. I think you're reading too hard into the story. (ps every other race in WHFB numbers in the billions, from an economics perspective)

if you're beat by a warp-cannon I feel bad for you son
...
I've got ninety nine problems but a Queek ain't one

>>53744459
Oh I just was cursed by the dice gods anon, no fault of tactics there.

>>53749314
eh I had to use it anon, I haven't actually used it before and I painted it well enough that it deserves limelite, even if I roll all the misfires

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Holy shit, is there any fuck up in Warhammer fantasy as big as Belegar Ironhammer? Every book I find him in he's either being a dick to his clan and family or kiking the shit out of the rest of the clans. I won't give him too much shit for jobbing to Skarsnik and Headtaker since they're pretty hard, but it never seems like he's out thought them at all.

>>53749786
fair enough

>>53749971
Any and all Slayers, probably. Archaon will always be a pretty bad fuckup

>>53741000

>only one warband (reikland lol)
>three guys in a skirmish
>uses videogame version of the rules instead of tabletop

just played it. hmm. just didn't get the feel of the original game, one can tell that the developers only really played the PC version as well. bit of a letdown really. Shame because with fire emblem heroes-style graphics and five starting warbands this would be a must buy.


BFG: Leviathan is the best translation of a GW IP for mobile.

>>53749971

> Dwarfs.
> Out-thinking anyone.

If a Dwarf can't solve a problem with cannon and axe they usually struggle.

>>53751088

GW need to stop pimping their IP out to every cunt with a PC who thinks they can develop games. Warhammer is becoming a byword for shit games and most people don't distinguish between 40Keks and Fantasy.

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So do we know anything new or useful yet about WFRP 4e? Is it going to be a real edition or spring off the nickle-and-diming failure that was 3?

>>53751873
40keks will get the same treatment now that Age Of Guillotine leadup in 8e has begun.

>>53749971
Archaon the Nuthin Personnel

Malekith the Bitch-King

Mannlet

The stupid fucking elf high king that started and lost the War of Vengeance, and died begging for his life like a coward.

>>53738460
Kerillian, for the bantz.

I'm in love with her shit-talking.

>>53752084
Man, I don't know. Kerillian's shit-talking edges a little too far into just being a dick. Particularly to Bardin.

>>53752240
Nah, she only rarely steps over the line with Bardin enough for him to actually get angry, like the Pine Crags conversation. Mostly it's friendly belligerence. If you pay attention to the dialogue progression, Kerillian is the first person to find out why Bardin is in Ubersreik, which implies he told her.

>>53752047
Caledor 2nd.

Caledor 1st and Caledor the Dragontamer were both examples of the greatest character list.

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>>53752084

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>>53754487
>this unbaraki elf won't stop making this stupid face at me

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>when you finally get around to playing the Orc campaign for the first time and you realize that one of your favorite Orc warbosses is being used as a punching bag for Grimgor/Azhag to fuck up as part of their early game expansion

I'm glad I got lucky in confederating the Red Fangs and actually getting him as one of my generals, but it's a little sad that a somewhat well-known Orc is getting treated as fodder, where the Imperials and the Vampire Counts get vague rebels to fight off. And it's somewhat insulting to take Black Crag from him - it would be like having the Empire campaign begin with Karl Franz having to wrest Middenheim from Boris Todbringer.

>>53755545
Huh. Never knew. Though orcs are pretty vicious and backstabby gits, that's a shame.

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>>53752084

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>>53755644
He's been around for a long while, so it feels like a bit of a waste. At least I could always get a faction unlocker mod and play as the Red Fangs myself if I ever wanted, right? Even though their colorscheme is horrible.

>>53755685
I'll never understand why there's so much fat Kerillian art.

>>53751819
You shut your elf-loving mouth.

>>53751819
That's riiiich taaaalk coming from a race whose downfall was predicated on a LITERAL motherfucker throwing a temper tantrum!

>>53756085
>fetish garbage
>"art"

where do you get WFB sets?

>>53756689
Lot of brick and mortar stores around here are still holding on to older stock, selling it alongside newer AoS ranges. Though there aren't that many brick and mortar stores anyway. The fact that there are some means that I can try and wrest old armies from old players, or at least parts of them.

>>53755741
It would make sense for him to confederate with Skarnsik, not so much the others though.

>>53756360
NOT FUCKING CANON!

Actually, I really with the Text To Speech Device team did more Fantasy stuff than just Ravendil. Then again, the slow rate Emperor is coming out maybe that's a good thing.

>>53758011
God, it would be glorious.

>>53758026
I think the plot progression of actual 40k fucking up their humor kind of killed their interest.

I think they could salvage it by lampshading Girlymon awakening and doing crazy shit in the background though.
Or just continue with their thing uninterrupted, since its actually a lot more fun.

>>53741268
And really, the Nagash thing builds up his reputation more than their own. "How bad was Nagash?", "Bad enough that killing him is the only time the entire Council of 13 worked together on something".

>>53758213
Too bad they never developed the interesting Skaven clans, that one that is obsessed with death that dye themselves white because they fought firsthand against Nagash's forces totally trumps everything that the generic Moulder/Skryre/Eshin ever had.

>>53758265

What clan was this?

>>53758521
One of the ones in Skaven Heraldry.

There's also a clan that has shiny and new gear that's reliable because enslaved Dwarfs make all their shit, a clan that never betrays or backstabs because it works for money and nothing else, a clan that hunt Lizardmen, and a clan that went feral by being too far underground with giant black eyes and ears which rip and tear other Skaven.

>>53758610
Clan Moulder also has a subordinate clan called Clan Skully.

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Ideas for Skaven villains in Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay - go!

>>53755545
GW has a boner for Grimgor Ironhide

He's shit, he should have killed Archaon not fucked around saying "I AM DER BEST LEL LELELELEL!"

>>53758820
>black orcs are so disciplined they can stop other orcs from fighting against each other
>Grimgor can't go a day without fighting against other orcs if no enemies are available

Grimgor is shit, bring back Morglum.

>>53758816
A vampirified skaven on the loose in the warrens, forcing the rats to go up and out. Players must deal with the increased ratman activity before discovering what is causing it.

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A rogue warlock of Clan Skyre is defiling tombs and burial grounds to try and weaponize humam corpses - and they are dangerously close to creating their own zombie plague.

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A clan eshin assassin. Play it just like Predator - it is hunting the players because they are the best challenge for its skill.

>>53758816

>A Lurk-like toady. He never engages the PCs directly, but is always manipulating his adverseries into situations where they run into the PCs. He will secretly fund the players to keep them in top shape for when he needs them to play whack-a-rat.

>A charismatic mutant skaven is starting cults to the rat god in man-thing cities, teaching the poor and disenfranchised to worship their rats in exchange for mana from heaven - food corrupted with warpstone. Cults are popping up everyehere.

>The Guttersnicht family. Just a family of rats that take on the PCs. No matter how many they kill, they breed like...well...rats, and there is always more to replace them, and the family has a score to settle.

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>>53738460
G L A D Y
L
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>>53758610

You're mixing 2 clans.

The one that lives undergroup has skaven with large ears and eyes, is easily frightened and minds mainly its own business

>>53760935
Don't skaven have a warpstone fuelled train system in the Dark Beneath The World that spans the planet?

>>53760976

Not yet. It still is experimental, and it's only used for carrying stuff, as the deathrate is too much even for skavens

>>53761005
That's a campaign right there. I've always wanted to play a TDBTW campaign for WFRP.

>>53758802

I'm glad somebody posted this.

Total War Warhammer 2 comes out September 28th, 2017.

>>53762202
Wake me up when Shadow of the Horned Rat gets an HD remake.

>>53762202
Preorder box with deluxe Lileath staff when?

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>>53762629
Collector's Edition is Lizardmen. Sorry Elves/Skaven.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtXkaV2JJUw&t=331s#t=31m35s

So, situation like this. What happens if I declare a charge on a unit, but then, out of nowhere, opponent's fleeing unit gets in the way? Does my unit just wipe it clean and proceed to charge into it's original target or just stops and sucks dick?

>>53763564

It should catch the fleeing unit and then you have the opportunity to either overrun by 2d6 or stay and reform

Can't be so sure since i don't have my rulebook with me

>>53752004
Just play AoSrp.

>>53763909
kys senpai

>>53763967
What, you don't want to play in literal magical realms?

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>>53764082
If I wanted to play Bastion, I'd play Bastion.

https://youtu.be/mhrrZilPVoI

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>Empire of man
>has several non-human citizens
Explain this.

>>53765388
>Empire of man
>does't even contain most humans
Explain THIS.

>>53765388
Mankind runs the Empire Of Man.

Its not the Empire Of Men after all.

>>53765423
Its mankind's only empire, making it the Empire Of Man.

>>53765431
Where's Emperor Man then?

>>53765457
>Cathay

>>53752004
It will base on 2nd abd 1st n, disregarding 3rd

This is the only thing we know so far

>>53765522
Ruled by dragon.

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>>53765457
Apart from Cathay.
Also, 'Empire of Man' is a shitty 8th edition pseudo-40k coining. It was never called that before. Pic related.

>>53765510
Left for the mountains with his bff that one dwarf I forgot the name off and were eaten by greenskins.

>>53765564
Give me undeniable proof that he's an actual dragon. 100% proof. And even if, it's an empire that contains the most humans. It's an empire run by humans for humans.

>>53762202
Just in time for my birthday

>>53765613
>has loads of dorf and elf citizens

>>53765732
And ogres too. Middenheim has a giant.
Let's not forget the hobb-I mean halflings.

>>53765613
It also has state tzeentch worship.

>>53765920
It did at one time. We don't know if it still does at 'present'.

>>53765999
I think it was pretty obvious by now, but thanks for finding strong confirmation of what's up.

>>53765999
>furries
>dicks
>cucks
>furries

>>53766545
>scalies
>dicks
>cucks
>furries
i think that's what you meant

>>53766979
Scalies and furries are the same thing in my eyes.

>>53767006
They're both scum, but slightly different flavors.

>>53765920
>tzeench
>the guy that literally tried to save the old world as of TW:WH

>>53767371
In ET it was Slaanesh, in TWW it was Tzeentch...fuck it, its canon now that Blood Bowl won't end because Nurgle and Khorne are united protecting it.

>>53762362
Just put the Grudgebringers in TWW. There's a mod for it.

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>>53766545
>>53766979
>>53767006
>>53767247
>Scalies
>Implying Lizardmen are not technically neither men nor women, but completely asexual/genderless

>>53768505
>humanoid with scales
Furshit.
Let's go kick its ass and take all their gold.

>>53758816
Give your characters a mysterious letter falseflagging the church of Sigmar, telling them to kill a Witch-Hunter-thing or a Stunty-thing or something, make it obvious as fuck and lead the characters on the wild ride

Or have your characters blackmailed by some Skaven of choice into doing bad shit

>>53763564

I would assume it is destroyed as if a unit ever falls back into an area in which is cannot fit it is usually destroyed.

>>53765388

It's official name is just the Empire of Sigmar.

>>53738757
I actually really like this character design.

>>53738757
Isn't that an older tsarina?

>>53769996

Yeah, that image has her next to Magnus the Pious.

So everyone can put their dicks away.

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>>53770011

This is the 'current' tsarina.

>>53770067

> Erection in progress.

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>>53770125

And that's still a rather unflattering angle for her.

Here she is posing.

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I'm running a fantasy RP and beastmen are going to be one of the primary antagonists. I've read up on them, but my only "voiced" experience of them is from the total war game.

Do important/powerful beastmen speak properly or is it the same mangled gibberish? I'm not sure how I can work them in properly if they cannot.

>>53771006
You need to go get ahold of Old World Bestiary, which has viewpoints of and even from all the (sapient) monsters of the world, including beastmen.

To answer your question, yes, beastmen can talk. Usually they're quite stupid and would maybe know a phrase or two in Reikspiel at most (more likely, nothing but the dark tongue), but some are intelligent. Bray Shamans are always clever, and even Gors can be fearsome intelligences - Khazrak One-Eye is one example, but turnskin Gors (humans that became beastmen spontaneously) tend to be more intelligent.

As an aside, minotaurs are sometimes lucid and eloquent too, when the blood rage isn't on them, but they live for killing, raping, and eating.

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>>53771006
Here, this might help.
Also consider that a mutant/gave might be able to act as a translator.

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>>53771084
It was mainly for the benefit of a great chief really.

Also the idea that there can be Slaantaurs both amuses and frightens me.

>>53771006
Since Beastmen are Broo knockoffs, look into them.

>>53771120

When you're using mutants to help you speak to beastmen you should do what any good imperial citizen would do and chop all their heads off with your zweihander.

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>>53770357
>when you remember that in End Times lore at one point Karl Franz flew with her on his griffon to freeze up a shoreline full of Chaos Marauders
>he probably had to sit there and bear out her attempts at diplomacy

>>53771348

> She's ridden his imperial griffon.

Union of the kingdoms confirmed.

>>53771348
He could literally be her father. She's the same age as his son Luitpold.

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>>53771348
>you will never take part in the invasion and destruction of Praag and spitroast her with your marauder bros

>>53771520
>following Slaneesh

>>53771520
>implying

The Tsarina is so powerful and so fearless that Chaos warriors are canonically terrified of her. She'd cut through you like a scythe through wheat.

>>53771586
>not being undivided
>not killing when it's time for killing, raping when it's time for raping

>>53765388
See
>>53765590

It isn't called "The Empire of Man". Its just "The Empire".

>>53765590
Fucking 8th edition.

>>53765590
>8th edition 40kd the setting up even before the end times

>>53771805
Stop being an undecisive prick.

>>53771348
Now that is a fapfic I want to read.

>>53773011
Karl-Franz x the tsarina? There's not a lot of characterization for them.

Remember that time a fucking TOMB QUEEN got hot and bothered for Felix Jaeger?

>>53773501
amazonian tomb queen I might add anon

>>53772841
8th edition was pretty much a sack of dicks. Slight randomization in the charge distances (1d3) would have solved quarter inch fuckery, not the huge swings we got. And making huge blocks of infantry and/or the magic to remove them the meta screwed over any army like Bretonnia or an Empire/Elf Knight list.

One of the few good things AoS did was make people willing to play other editions besides 8th.

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>>53773501
To be fair, every other woman got hot and bothered for Felix Jaeger. Must be the striped pants.

>>53773501
>>53774496

That's just William King's writing, he writes every main character as the silent lady killer.

He must know his demographic.

>>53774579
To be fair, it was always played somewhat tongue-in-cheek with Felix, at least when it wasn't played for drama.

What are some good novels to get me introduced into the Warhammer Fantasy universe?

>>53774765
The first three Gotrek and Felix novels are pretty flavourful. Tales of the Old World is also a nice blanket introduction to the setting overall.

>>53774496

What are the numbers on Felix's love life? We cop a new one every book but, what, he's only shagged a handful of women in the books right?

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>>53774591
I generally find it an annoying...trope, for lack of a better word, when a main character regularly shifts through relationships, but with Felix it's usually handled fairly well. It doesn't interrupt the flow of the stories, and in fact usually tends to compliment them in some way. His first relationship was loving but tragic, and he actually took time later to reflect on how his memory of her dulled, which helped highlight the passage of time and his growth as a character. His second relationship was more casual, but also ended somewhat bitterly, though in a much more healthy fashion for Felix - he had nothing to feel dead inside over after. And it also showed him as having a bit of a jealousy problem. Then there was the brief time with the Kislevite lady, which was used to drive home how dangerous it was to go into the Chaos Wastes, and also was interesting for highlighting the Kislevite mindset - being blunt about feelings, making the most of what little time you have.

I haven't actually read more than the first three books, so I don't really know what comes next. But it wasn't just that Felix was James Bond and he seduced every woman he had to work with or rescue. He had a variety of relationships, and I'd say the women stood out as believable, or at least their own characters. Still can't say why they stood out to him, aside from that he was described as somewhat handsome.

>>53774996
That dwarf is wearing sunglasses.

>>53775112
Its eyepatch.

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>>53775112
Gotrek loses his eye pretty early on.

>>53776472
Also, in the earliest short stories he's even shaved off his beard.

>>53763564
wtf is up with the fat guy in the beginning?

>>53776472
He loses his eye in the Border Princes, in the Siege of the Von Diehl household. Same fight where Felix loses his first love.

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>>53738460
M'lady

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>>53738460
I love a woman with experience.

>>53774996
>I haven't actually read more than the first three books
the quality eventually starts dipping, but I'd say it's worth at least reading all the ones done by King

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>>53741268
>we
>our

Am I the only one who hates theses fucking faggots who refer themselves as spess bugs, rats or what ever. You are not the race you play as.

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>>53768671
>Continuing to be this ignorant and hateful of races based on anthropomorphized animals
Hypocritical furfag-in-denial
Let's castrate these intruders with our macahuitls and cut out their hearts for the Old Ones.

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>>53738757
Full image(?)

>>53778504

I feel Giantslayer dropped the ball. Nathan Long's stuff is pretty good too, IMHO. I'm disappointed with how they capped off the series, personally. Would have preferred something along the line of:

>"We go off to face our most dangerous foe. We may never return."

And then an addendum from his brother saying that there was no more written and that Felix and Gotrek have been missing ever since.

>>53778441
> Geneviève "Magnus the Pious was feeling me up under the skirt" Dieudonné

>>53778629
>>53778441

I am very undecided about getting into the genevieve series. Would those who actually read it recommend it ?

Is it possible for non humans to become vampires in the Warhamer Fantasy world?

>>53779083
Yes

But why would they?

>>53779083
Elves are already long-lived and vampirism would diminish their magical potential. Dwarfs are magic-resistant and already long-lived. Greenskins don't do traditional magic, let alone necromancy.
Only humans benefit from necromancy.

>>53779275
Yeah but that is Necromancy. the question is if you could give an Ork or skaven or whatever the vampirekiss.

>>53779173
Curiosity of a Necrarch maybe?

>>53778946
Honestly? I found it a bit bleh. Drachenfels is fucking tight though - if you haven't read that, do so.

>>53779333
>>53779275
>>53779173
>>53779083

Technically, no. The vampirism curse can't affect non-humans in most of the up-to-date lore. In the older stuff you get reference to a Dwarf vampire occasionally, but it was later retconned as literally just being a short guy.

Personally I'd say leave it up to your GM. I found all this out doing research for what a Vampire Skaven might be like.

Additionally, Vampires do not have souls in the setting.

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>>53779083

>>53779549

I kinda lost interest when i found out genevieve or however the fuck its spelled is writers trans-settings waifu that appeares in various other fantasy settings.
Seriously, how can a man be so obsessed that he writes the smae character again and again ?

>>53779670
You must hate Stephen King

>>53778578
giantslayer was the one with teclis right?

>>53779709
he really isn't all he is cracked up to be.
I read his warcraft novels.

>>53779842
Yeppers. It's not terrible but it's pretty weak.

>>53779670
Sad thing is, she's more interesting in Anno Dracula. The Warhammer version is pretty blergh by comparison.

>>53778946
Honestly, not really. Genevieve herself feels out of place and Sue-ish. Some of the stories in the collection are good, though - Drachenfels and especially Beasts in Velvet.

>>53779853

He looks like a total fucking nonse as well.

Can we all just take a moment to pay our respects to AoS since it appears to have died with the release of 40K 8E...

> *Bagpipes intensify*.

>>53720331
Ok but now you owe me the old Nagash model as part of the deal

>>53778524
Im not sure if that the Zarina Katarina, since the man looks like Magnus the Pious and that was a long time ago

>>53781374

Yeah it is, other anon posted the current Tsarina.

>>53781276
Its not dead, GW releases focus entirely on one thing for a while instead of sharing attention like normal game companies.
Its a stretch, and giving them far too much credit, but they may be waiting on AoS for the release of TWW2.

Still fucking waiting for the Order MTO though. I want a fucking Gob-Lobber.

>>53782099

It's been so long since that was announced I've forget it was even happening.

>>53783012
They put it on hold to do Space Marines and Blood Bowl first.

>>53741268
>>53758213
i know im late, but anyone mind summon up how they killed nagash? I just getting into the lore and Nagash dieing seems like it would be incredibly relevant.

>>53762719
>get a hard on whenever something mentions cloth campaign map
>Thinking its going to be a neat, actual map I can hang in my game room
>Last time I fell for this hype was Dark Souls 2, and it was a just a silky tissue sized cloth

Fuck you. At looks the other stuff looks neat. Really hoping they release some others or somthing.

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>>53784801
It's so handy that we can post pdfs.

>>53784992
Na h, one box.
First game was Dwarfs, second is Lizardmen.

With any luck game 3 will continue the trend of gold obsessors and be the Tomb Kings edition.

>>53785024
Thanks anon! appreciate it.

>>53773501
We don't talk about Josh Reynolds here.

>>53774839
1. Kirsten
2. The girl from Skavenslayer
3. Ulrika
4. Kat

>>53715647
So, still working on my vampire coast army, but I do have some questions lore wise; not that it would really impact the army Im building, but more out of curiosity:

Can Lizardmen be resurected by Necromancy? What about their Dinosaurs, or native inhabitants of lustria?

We know Luthor Harkon has a direct underling, but does he have more vampire thralls? And where does he get the necessary powder and ammunition for his zombies? Also, just how much of a presence does he have in the Vampire Coast?

How feverant will the Colleges of Magic chase after black Magisters? Like, to the ends of the earth? And what kind of pull can they get?

As for the Amazons of Lustria, do you think they could be subverted into serving a necromancer?

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How necessary is the steam tank for a Empire army? Creating my first whfb army and I'd like a less steep learning curve. Intend to play 9th

>>53785257
>We know Luthor Harkon has a direct underling

No End Times fluff in this thread, Harkon is insane and alone.

>>53785774
So Luthor Harkon is ruling the entire vampire coast by himself?

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>>53785257
This video on Harkon's lore is very good: www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX0sJoUxepM

>>53785840
No, he has "Ship Wights" - Undead sea captains that sail around the world to raid and sink more ships and bring them back the crews to fuel the need for more zombie sailors.

>>53785257
>Can Lizardmen be resurected by Necromancy? What about their Dinosaurs, or native inhabitants of lustria?
Yes. In fact, there's nothing we onow of that can't. Even theoretically Daemons, which somehow sometimes leave corpses that other races take trophies from or Ogres eat instead of disappearing back into the Warp, possibly could be.

Old Skeleton Warrior kits actually came with extra heads to represent Beastmen and Lizardmen.
>How feverant will the Colleges of Magic chase after black Magisters? Like, to the ends of the earth? And what kind of pull can they get?
Since we don't have direct lore on that, we can only guess but I'd assume it depends on what they do. Gorstmann would be pursued because of all the damage he's done. Who they can draw in depends on the importance, an Elector Count informed a mad wizard is loose would likely send his army after them. Nobody really wants to involve the Inquisition but they'd be happy to go after anyone they have an excuse to.

>As for the Amazons of Lustria, do you think they could be subverted into serving a necromancer?
All we know of them is they were part of the non-Chaos Norscans who colonized Lustria and decided to worship the Slann, who use them as minions and equip them with Old One tech. Its unlikely they'd side with anyone else, but its undefined so you can do what you want.

Vampires are great at creating agents in enemy ranks, but they'd be discovered by their masters or each other most likely pretty quickly.

That being said some Norscans who aren't Chaos stuck around, the kind that serve the Dwarf Sven.

>>53785356
>8e
They'e very good. Not mandatory, but you likely want one.
>9e
No idea. Just based on how they are approaching balance I doubt anything in the game is auto-include, and if there is then they will see it as a problem and work to improve internalarmy balance later.

>>53785257
>How feverant will the Colleges of Magic chase after black Magisters? Like, to the ends of the earth? And what kind of pull can they get?
Check out Realms of Sorcery. There's a good section in the Imperial Colleges of Magic chapter. There's also a career in Night's Dark Masters for the Magister Vigilant - Imperial Mages who specialise in hunting down renegade wizards and sorcerers.

How knee-jerky are the Witch Hunters in the Empire? How much does it take to get you imprisoned/tortured/burned?

Also... do Skaven speak fucking reikspiel?

>>53789304
Intelligent Skaven speak whatever, they're clever fucks who rely heavily on spying. The stupid ones probably barely speak their own language, and short Skaven lifespan means most die before learning much of anything.

Witch Hunter zealotry depends on the era and leadership. In general, less crazy than 40k Inquisition since Fantasy Inquisitors are very effective.

>>53789304
>How knee-jerky are the Witch Hunters in the Empire?
Depends on the individual. And what they can get away with. Most Witch Hunters are sponsored by a noble and work on that noble's lands.

>Also... do Skaven speak fucking reikspiel?
They speak Queekish amongst themselves.

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>>53789304
Clever-cunning skaven can speak the man-thing-tongue, oh yes-yes.

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Does anyone have any information on what the typical high elven village and what it's typical composition is like? The party is going to be lead to one of those hidden villages in empire forests but I realised I actually only know little about their general society.

Google is no help and I've not brought a codex in 10 years.

>>53789882
When I say composition I mean the types of professions the typical village might have, like how an empire town would have a blacksmith or priest for example.

>>53785062

I would recommend you read the entire Liber Necris, those lore books were pretty good.

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>>53785356

There isn't much that's mandatory in an Empire army except maybe one large block of troops (and even that's debatable). In 8th they were good, in 9th they're probably good but toned down or less random. Most people have one because it was an iconic unit.

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>>53789304

They communicate through pheromones between themselves.

>>53789882
High or Wood?

High Elves only have civilian cities on Ulthuan. The rest is just military outposts or trade families in Empire cities.

>>53789882

I can't think of anything off the top of my head, some of the Time of Legend novels may cover it but to be honest I can only imagine they would be mundane, they'll have all of the things you would find in a human or dwarf village but it may have a magical twist now and then. Have a look at Lord of the Rings and maybe that will give you some inspiration.

>>53785024
>Nagash
>most evil man in the Warhammer universe
>possibly the most badass
I'll always like him, and I can't help it.

Because in a setting where death is permanent and horrible because daemons and chaos gods can devour your soul with ease, he flipped them all the finger and decided to create his own eternal realm.. and only just barely failed (likely because there were no hookers and blackjack).

>>53786279
>All we know of them is they were part of the non-Chaos Norscans who colonized Lustria and decided to worship the Slann
Or they were created by the Old Ones and have always been there, which has also been mentioned as well. And they also fight the Lizardmen on occasion.

>>53785245
That's...not quite as baller as people would believe.

Four women over a career spanning, what, 30-40 years-ish? Jesus.

Hey, has anyone ever played a WFRP campaign that explored the dark beneath the world?

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>>53785245

You forgot Gotrek.

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wud u lewd a lahmian?

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>>53792129

I find the level of vampire worship in this thread deeply unsettling.

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>>53792182
Art thou vexed?

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>>53792214

Just doing the rounds for any blasphemous behaviour.

>>53792129
If I wanted to stick a dick in a corpse, I'd have sex with my wife.

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Can Estalian women attend diestro academies?

>>53792284
GM's call, I'd say. The only difference between Estalian men and women is how far away they stand from the toilet.

>>53792303
>besmirching the beauty of the flower of Estalia

You, sir, will be speaking with more respect.

>>53792284

I can't see why not, there will always be exceptions because there will always be a generals daughter with enough money to bypass the usual rules.

>>53792341
Big talk coming from a shortstack nation that's just a few hairy feet from being a halfling commune.

>>53792395
Ah, my northern cousin, here is where you are making your old blunder. Yes, your Empire is quite large, and its girth is impressive. But it's mostly worthless forests and rocky badlands, and the inbreeding of its villagers would give the Bretonni peasants a run for their money. No, friend, better to be a SMALL nation of orchards, rolling fields, and sunny groves than reeking swamps, beastman-plagued forests, and reeking filth-encrusted cities.

>>53792449

Ah, true that our fine Empire has it's follies my sun-tanned friend, but at least it is run by a man and not by a consortium of upright rats.

>>53792517
No no no, here we kill the rats, rather than letting them kill our god-kings.

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>>53792589

>>53785024
>Alcadizaar was likely forgotten by the world of the living, and by the Tomb Kings
>his great deeds, including being one of the few mortals to slay Nagash, go unremembered

>>53792589
My apologies, it's hard to tell an Estalian apart from a Ratman.

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>>53785356
well in 8th you can only include them in a 1000p or more battles, but they are decent. For me it's more how fantastic they look which makes me include it+painting it was fun.

that said in my last 2 games my steam tank exploded turn 1 and 3 due to catastrophic boiler failure because the gods of rng went against me. what can you do!

>>53794036
Senor, it's very simple. We're the ones fucking your wives while you're away chasing goat men, and the rats are the ones killing your wives while you're away chasing goat men.

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>>53778514

>we is used in the first sentence as in "we skaven players"
>skaven as a race are referred in 3rd person plural

>>53794487
And do you come before or after the ratmen do?

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hey so what does everyone think of unit fillers?

I was playing with a 40mx40m resin base trying to make some cool thematic piece which started off as a beastman head with a spear through it with an empire guy pointing forward but I realised all my spears weren't nearly long enough to stab into the ground and not hit the guy in the back of the neck.

SOO, I ended up with a sort of battlefield graveyard, old empire helmet, a greatsword wedged upwards into a forest log with a battered helmet and shattered shield resting alongside it.

and the other is pic related.
it's a long road ahead for him but the plan is to greenstuff ropes/cords holding the shields and hat in place, possibly a collar as well.

>>53798012
>hey so what does everyone think of unit fillers?
I often they they're great unless it's on of those 'three big trees representing 4 dudes each in a unit of 20'

>>53798149
so one big bear representing 4 dudes in a unit of 25-30 isn't too triggering? I think I understand what you mean though. Im not doing them because I'm short of units, just want to make pretty dioramas/flavour stuff

>>53798262
>so one big bear representing 4 dudes in a unit of 25-30 isn't too triggering
not at all.

>>53798012

The hat is the perfect size. Unit fillers are good when they're characterful or add something to the unit, it's the 15 bases taken up by boring crates that rustles people.