Warhammer 40,000 general /40kg/

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What's a neat little detail you love about some models?

I love that most unhelmeted GK heads have arming caps and/or old man faces. They're grizzled veterans and Knights/Paladins in Space, and I love that.

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So, where the hell did GW find the old, old, old Plastic Terminator mold from 2nd Edition, and what possessed them to rerelease them in a new set instead of the Black Reach buddies?

Seriously, I was down with buying the Build+Paint Heavy set for the cheap dread and Termis, until I saw they were the super outdated models.

>>53703488
Wait what?

Where is this?

I NEED IT.

>>53703488
PEWTER

Guys how is Emperor's Children in 8th?

Is there a rule similar to Death or Glory in 8th?

So, with templates and blasts being done away with, would it be better now to have scions with flamers? I figure hot-shot volley guns or plasmas would be better all, but from a budget standpoint, are flamers a better idea?

>>53703488
Wait are those guys on Standard infantry base rather than the big infantry base they are on now? the look like my old pewter chaos termies.

There is a reason I replaced those munchkins with descent sized terminators.

>>53703512
Low priced entry level kits for semi-mass market release. Like the Battle of Vedros sets.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/build_paint?_requestid=4705159#sm_bike

>>53703527
Incorrect. Those are plastic.

>>53703488
You think they actually throw molds away? If they havent broken they probably have them all stashed in a warehouse, which is also why they can reprint old minis.

I thought it was Assault on Black Reach termies, it kind of sucks that it isnt.

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Please help me pick a chapter for my primaris marines. I normally paint crimson fists so I want to do something different, but something that has lots of heraldry and such on the knees and shoulders and new armor bits like the new smurfs, but not them, nor SW or BA, as I've done them already as well. And or fill them out for fun of your own homebrews and post em

>>53703586
Lamenters
paint those checkerboards baby

>>53703488
I need people to buy the space marine half, which is a terminator captain, dreadnought, captain and a couple of tacticals.
I need the ork half.
My email's [email protected] if you wanna hook eachother up

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>>53703586

>>53703585
>You think they actually throw molds away?

No, not really, but I kinda felt like those molds were probably stuck off in a forgotten corner somewhere next to the plastic Orlocks and Goliaths.

>>53703434
Will chosen actually be worth taking this edition?

>>53703574
>Only the superhuman Space Marines can confront the Aliens, traitors and followers of the chaos powers who seek the destruction of Mankind.
So xenos and chaos are the same faction now?

>>53703615
Hmm, maybe, that's One I hadn't thought of! I do love their scheme. >>53703624
I also love these guys

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>>53703586
Pick any obscure successor and paint them in camo patterns.

>>53703636
They fight as well as berserkers without the special powers, their plasma guns are amazing, if you use them as intended I think they're going to shred face.

>>53703648
Commas, bro.

Aliens seek the destruction of Mankind just like traitors and followers of Chaos.

Alternatively, Aliens are traitors and followers of Chaos who seek the destruction of mankind and are not identified beyond level of The Aliens.

>>53703648
They are to the factions that matter. Basically grouping all the trash into the same dumpster fire.

>>53703530
Still only has two relevant units, so kinda boring.

>>53703750
Which two, you mean LtE and Noise Marines?

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>>53703586
Dark Millenium style Dark Angels (as a successor chapter, I guess)

>>53703530
Shorty noiselets that have no effect on the superior Primaris Marines™

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Your vote for shittiest unit in 8th, or one that tanked the most. This shitlord that when he runs out of ammo has less offensive output than a knight, at less than half his cost. 900 fucking points before weapons, almost 200 more than he was in 7th, and nobody used him then. Oh put 20 meks in it? Too bad you can only be repaired once per turn now. Fucking....assholes..

>>53703781
How's the weather up there stretch?

>>53703773
Yes. GW needs to get off their assholes and release some updated and new kits already.

Getting real tired of Khorne and Nurgle man, I tell you.

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>>53703790
Feels good man

>>53703791
We're getting a codex battle brother, hang in there. In the mean time Noise Marines are fucking awesome in 8th.

>>53703787
Maybe FW and their Kustom stompa rules will save us

again

>>53703808
So you can hear us just fine? Good! We'll be the last thing you hear.

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Best chapter reporting in

>>53703831
What's that? You're starting to get a little short there, can't really hear you.

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>>53703851
...Okay that's it!
My Slaaneshi brothers, let's show Stretch here the pleasure of a face melting performance!

>>53703914
fuck yeah man

hand him 24 sonic blaster shots at 24" + split fire 2d3 s8 ap -2 d3 damage shots to his valuable shit in the back line at 48"

Ignores cover of course

>>53703466
I dig the foot stabilizers on the devastator's armor, and especially that the imperial fists devastator veteran in the deathwatch overkill box has them too to represent his previous role. On that subject, I love all of the marines in the overkill box for their little bits of character, from the blood raven's VIDYA emblem to the salamander's drakescale and augmented breather helmet.

The corvus hammers the ravenwing black knights use is a nice throwback to their origin as hammerpick and archaeotech pistol wielding elite horseback hunstmen.

Love the little torture tools the interrogator chaplain carries on his belt and conversely, the new model for cypher has some great stuff like his cobbled together MK2 plate that uses leather buckles and has a visible steam-gauge looking device on the back.

I love the slung lasguns in the tempestus kit. Even if the sergeant can't take one, he looks pretty tacticool with a slung one and his chest rigged full of pouches and grenades.

The alternate head option for carnifexes with the seared off face revealing some of its skull has always been super cool to me.

I dig the way all the thousand sons have corrupted versions of 30k armor patterns.

Even as a fan of Ultramarines, fuck Cato Sicarius.

>>53703934
That head for the Carnifex is actually for the Carnifex character, Old One Eye.

>>53704037

I didn't use to be, it was made to show the regeneration biomorphic.

>>53703932
Damn Strait! Sonic weapons are Amazing! I can't wait for our update and hopefully getting a Noise marine kit.

>>53704152
fuck yeah we should start spamming GWs email with a campaign to ask them for EC stuff

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>>53704037
I didn't actually realize that's their intent now. I always remembered old one eye as the goofball in pic related.
>>53704147
Yeah, the plastic fex just has a ton of cool bits options. Too bad they made most of them into aesthetic choices.

>>53703787

The Orkanauts replace that now don't they?

I think I can put three of those on the table for less points than a Stompa anyway.

I love the new edition so far. I ordered Index 1 Imperium, Index 2 Xenos, and the rules. But the only things i'm really upset about is how they are taking away armor values on vehicles and that templates were removed. The craziest thing to me is the templates. Other than that is seems great.

Can we make this the actual general
The other one is undergoing critical spastic meltdowns

>>53704486

No one's saying you can't. Leave the Conniption Fit General to its meltdown and have srs bzns here.

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>This triggers the /tg/

>>53704529

I don't want to tell people in that thread to come here though, they might bring their mental issues
but ya, the release date absolutely doesnt matter at this point, might as well official launch

>>53704541
I don't why it should. This exact thing happened with the Thunder Warriors. Powerful, immense legions of supersoldiers marching to war on the orders of the Big E, all for his plans for unifying humanity. What happened to them? Oh yeah, they were discarded literally as soon as their purpose ended.

>>53704541
>>53704644
>inb4 rowboat does something like this with the old marines and the primaris

>>53704541
Oh?

>>53703615
But Lamenters were the only chapter not to get primaris reinforced after Baal.

>>53704702

Eat my butthole. I can paint them however I want.

>>53704662
That'd be interesting to see happen. Considering the last couple times Astartes took offence at someone big and important trying to get rid of them (read: Inquisition and Space Wolves debacle), I don't think Bobby G would want to try something like that, at least until the Imperium has settled down somewhat.

Building a scions army in light of the fact that they're good now. Flamers: yay or nay?

Can a unit be deployed in a transport that is not dedicated transport? Like in a land raider for example.

>>53704748
no, Bobby G can do better.
Unplug the texting ability on big E. Leave him alive, then rule how he wants.
The emperor may be powerful, but now he's silent. Rowboat can rule. He'll save big E's humanity, but he'll do it his way and big E can't do shit.

The best revenge is living well.

After watching a few battle reports, the horde guy always seems to end up winning because of how brutal rolling 80+ dice on a charge is. Are these people bad, new, or is this the future?

>>53704529

lel it reached a breaking point
someone took a hammer to one of their minis

>>53704886
Everyones trying to get the hang of things, screening units and using transports as roadblocks will become the new norm now that turn 1 charges and viable hordes are a thing.

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>>53704716
How could you collect a chapter if you don't respect their lore?

>>53704702
Wait, we know what happened at and after Baal, can someone recap or point me to that?

>>53704886
the few I've seen against hoard the opponent didn't do anything to counter the hoard well.

Being able to deal with hoards will be a consideration for list building, and the solution isn't what it was before.

With orcs the buffing bosses are often left behind, drop in a force there and kill the boss. If they try to turn the hoard around they get nailed. Of if their daisy chaining, drop in and charge the end of the chain.

Or snipers to kill of the commander. against ranged hoards bring harrassing chargers forcing them to fall back. Against melee hoards bring screening units.

Learn how to focus out the different types of hoards. Orcs wittle down and isolate, then let leadership take them. Nids, kill the big one. Guard, take out the squishy leaders.

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>tfw you finally realize your father never existed as you thought of him and the only thing you were conversing with was essentially an extremely powerful physical manifestation of humanity's hope

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What kind of new units would you expect in the evetual World Eaters supplement?

>>53704933
>>53453590

>>53705012

Fuck these authors seriously. Hes been strapped to a pain chair for 10,000 years, so forgive the fucking Emperor if Hes to the point.

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>>53705012

>>53705033
Angron

Hey I'm fairly new to the hobby and want to start a emperor's children army. I plan on building up slowly with an HQ and two noise marine units then grabbing an elite and heavy support which seems to be a good way to start but I have one question.

Would a regular chaos lord, daemon prince or Lucius be a better HQ? My friends plan on playing 50 point games and I really like the rules for Lucius but he seems really slow for such a melee focused character.

I have a small pile of Marines that I originally set aside for 30k, but no longer plan to. Can't decide on a chapter, don't like any of the First Founding. I would do Chaos, but I wouldn't be able to use two of the squads, and they'd look a little weird with a legit CSM force.

Any recommendations?

>>53705033
Angron and Red Butchers

Is the Rhino Primaris the sort of thing Raptors would use?

>>53705033
motorcycle monsters with giant maws that eat everything.
a gun that shoots chainsaws. Or basically a flammer that's just shooting a massive cloud of blades, ie a chainrifle from infinity.
a bloodmist that makes things harder to hit with range weapons.

>>53704662
>>53704748
Guilliman refers to Primaris as "Cawl's blasphemous hordes" in the "Dark Imperium" novel.

>>53703586
Same boat, Crimson Fists and all. I'm looking at Mentors or Invaders.

>>53705146
You can just make up a chapter from the 2nd and 11th legion.

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Posted this in the other thread and split one of the cultist squads after someone pointed out that I couldn't Deepstrike everything.

I'm always up for other opinions.

>>53705170

I like the model (or the concept really since it was limited release), I like not having to have a power armored HQ (going for an all-scout theme to back up my Guardsmen) and it seems tacticool enough for the Raptors is my thinking.

I just realized you can't fire pistols after advancing. Only assault weapons can do that.

So you can fire a flamer after advancing, but not a hand flamer.
Or a shotgun, but not a bolt pistol.
Or a meltagun, but not an inferno pistol.

>>53705184
Does he actually care about blasphemy though? Isn't he just saying, "Wow, everyone's going to be super mad."

>>53705364
I think he came back and within a day was totally over the imperium.

He's like an exhausted dad who got back after leaving his kids alone for a while.

>>53705351

That hurts sisters more than I thought

>>53705351
Sure, assault weapons needed something special, since you can charge after shooting heavy and rapid fire now.

>>53705351
yeah but using a flamer/melta/bolter even if you're still locked in close combat.

I have a great unclean one, 20 plaguebearers, 3 plague drones, 3 nurglings. I want to expand into death guard. Was going to get 2 sets of plague marines, 2 sets of pox walkers, a blight drone, and typhus. What else should I get?

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>>53705406
>i can run and shoot a flame thrower
>i can't run and shoot a smaller flame thrower

>>53705364
I don't know the context. I haven't made the time to read it.

Bobby thinks Cawl is going to be a problem though.

Cawl has a hologram of himself on Guilliman's ship that speaks for him while he's away. It insists it's not an A.I. but just programmed to think the way Cawl does.

Cawl also wants to use geneseed from the traitor legions on Primaris and asked Guilliman to appoint him Fabricator General of Mars which most tech-priests wouldn't be thrilled about.

>>53705450
Oh, and I have a herald. It's about 700 points of nurgle daemons.

I'm just waiting to steamroll shit with my Mechanicus dudes, and I want goddamn tanks. Gimme Krios, Forgeworld, or GW give me some new goddamn models -- I want to rape Chaos with the Machine God.

>>53705461
>dude let me in I'm a tech priest
>dont you you believe in the omnissah?

>>53703674
Yeah I'm thinking of giving them flamers and power axes to push objectives, I'll use havocs to pick up the slack when it comes to plasma guns

>>53705396
Yup. I was trying to find a way to allow seraphim to use their flamers/inferno pistols without taking a round of fire/fighting/both first. Deep striking leaves them too far to use them (9") and they can't be put into rhinos/immolators. So that leaves walking/jet packing, but their weapons being pistols makes advancing not an option. Sure, they have a 12" move, but inferno pistols and hand flamers only have a 6" range and the melta range on inferno pistols is 3".

Just to add a bit more salt to that: while hand flamers would do 2d6 autohitting wounds on overwatch, you can just charge from 6.1" to completely avoid them.

And only mildly related but I think it's funny flamers/heavy flamers have 8" range, which is just enough to be useless against deep striking jet pack units assaulting from the closest they can.

>>53705454
better stabilized.
you can shoot the smaller flamer while in combat.

>>53705510

Yea. Seraphim seem better without deep striking and just flying around instead, especially since they basically move 24" thanks to faith. Deploy them close to the line and do your dirty work I guess. I don't know that they're actually that good now since people will just disengage off you and shoot them down. They would be so much better if AoF were using in their respective phases instead.

>Grey Knight purifiers only have a single attack now

rrrRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEE-

>Always do D6 wounds with their Smite

Oooh.

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>>53705170
>>53705262

Derp, I'm literally retarded. Taros Campaign had something similar.

I really need the new Death Guard Green paint (my autism won't let me use any other color for my DG since it was announced) What are the odds of a GeeDubz store employee selling me one before the official release?

where are the warlord traits in the new rules? cant find them

>>53705628
On the Fighting A Battle page

>>53704794
You want anti infantry you go HSVG command squads.Or at least thats how it used to be.

>>53705649
Thanks anon!

>>53705628
"Fighting a Battle"

The page after the example turn

>>53705055
New Ka'bhunda model when?

>>53705560
Seraphim are better objective grabbers.

>>53705684
Why are there two generals again?
What the fuck is wrong with you people?

>>53705742
One is infected with /pol/ and autosaging and the other isn't, J

So now that the Imperium is one army instead of multiple, what does each subfaction do?

You can use any of them so each should have some kind of niche to make them relevant.

When would you use Marines instead of Sisters or Grey Knights or Guardsmen or Admech or Custodes?

>>53705067
Father needs more S.
His real dad is also dead, too.

>>53705751
/pol/ are like orks. Once they are there you can't really get rid of them and you have to switch places.

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>>53705792
Agreed, friend! Here, have an upvote and some reddit gold!

⬆

I want to make some Ministorum Priests for my guard, how could I go about converting them ?

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>>53705806
Fuck off nigger.

>>53705466
Well Dunecrawlers are badass, but you just stuck the image of Skitarii marching in columns either side of a line of Krios Venators led by Myrmidons in my head. I want that now.

Thing is, four Lascannon shots with some kind of small anti-vehicle bonus isn't that impressive any more with the Twin-linked change. Also front armour is gone, as has directional defences like Knight Ion Shields, so I'm wondering what they'd do with it.

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>>53705827
⬆

>>53705830
Stop being fucking autistic. I simply said that /pol/ is shit that is not redditfag material.

>>53705827
>4chan presents
lul
should say reddit presents

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>want to work on shit
>cant find the energy at home
>take shit to lgs
>build for 8+ hours straight
Fuck. What's worse is that my LGS wants me to finish shit working on the GW terrain they bought, which is the sector Imperialus modular board and two of the SI ruin sets. I have about half of a box to finish building before I paint everything. I work nights, so I can't do it during the week. However, they offered to let me work on it before they open, but that means getting up early while 100% killing what time I have to work on my own shit.

Kill me, please.

>>53705842
t. reddit

>>53705806
How is "fuck /pol/" even remotely a reddit thing?

>>53705828
Do with what?

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>>53705842
t. reddit

>>53705861
>how is "fuck drumpf and fuck white people" even a remotely shareblue thing

>>53705861
Only redditors whine about politics when it doesn't fit their opinions.

Should we start talking about communism instead, maybe that'll calm you down.

Praise Trotsky amirite?

>>53705879
Nigga really? Even if you're just fucking with him you're shitting up the thread even more. You're the one that doesn't belong.

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>when fucking underage faggots shit up 4 threads on a row

I just want to talk about little plastic dolls without this fucking faggotry. Oh well. Guess there's always next week.

>>53704541
>Horus was right all along

Based Chaos for saving the Primarchs!

>>53705869
Was that supposed to answer my question?

>>53705879
>Only redditors whine about politics when it doesn't fit their opinions.

No one mentioned any political views. This is /tg/. If you want to argue politics there is a board dedicated to it called /pol/ and you should go there instead of doing it in a warhammer thread on a board for gaming.

>>53705900
I blame reddit.

>>53705830
t. haven't been on reddit in half a decade

>>53705906
>he says while posting a picture meant to insult a specific political viewpoint
Fuck nazis amirite? Based Lenin and Trotsky should have taken over the soviet union! Anarchocommunism is the way to go!

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>mob rule
GET REDDY BOYZ! ORKZ ARE BACK TO KILLIN' AN' FOIGHTIN'!

>>53705923
That's supposed to be a bad thing?

>>53705608
Why are the Rhino Primaris and Damocles even separate units, apart from GW wanting to sell a limited-edition kit, and them not willing to acknowledge that FW stuff exists 95% of the time...

... Shit, just answered my own question.

>>53705906
No but it was supposed to mock you, although I think your posts do a pretty good job of it on their own.

>>53705925
The root of this shit was to the guy saying "I hate /pol/. To which a dude called him a reddit fag. But the thing is that doesn't make him a reddit fag. Basically the /pol/tard should just chill out and realize that hating /pol/ isn't a reddit thing and that hating /pol/ isn't a huge political statement.

>>53705932
I'm saying that the references in that pic were outdated. The "le meme le xdxd" stuff hasn't been a thing there for years.

Also, I really don't get this site rivalry thing.

>>53705925
I never posted a picture.

>>53705948
You could have just answered the question instead of having a kneejerk butthurt reaction towards something I never said or even implied.

>>53705961
Sperging out about a bunch of shitposters playing in the shitheap of an already shitty thread is the epitome of reddit.

Ok never mind he shouldn't realize that he is wrong. Everyone just avoid him.

>>53705863
The rules for the Krios, given a direct port would just make it a speedy but otherwise mediocre tank destroyer. Those things have a lot of gimmicks in the HH rules, but are fairly simple despite it. Very point-and-click, although they're still exceeding good at it.

How did fa/tg/uys get the rules early?

Ok ghetto niggers its time to shut the fuck up and decide the greatest debate in the history of mankind.

DEATHSTRIKE OR MANTICORE?

>>53703781
How's your Mk X Tacticus Armour™ and Mk II Cawl-pattern Bolt Rifle™ holding up? Kill any Heretic Astartes™ or Poxwalkers™ today with your Belisarius-pattern Plasma Incinerator™? I want to see how a Malignant Plaguecaster™ can hold up against one of those!

Seriously though, there isn't quite as much shilling in the new Dark Imperium book as I was expecting. There are a few parts where characters use terms like Heretic Astartes™ in actual conversation though, which is jarring as fuck.

>>53704541
>Content?
Nah
>Repeating it every thread in the vague hope of a response?
Not really

>>53703791
You know, it wasn't that long ago that people were bitching about Khorne and Slaanesh were getting all the love. Granted, it was always Slaanesh daemons...

>>53705847
So if you hate /pol/ than you are a reddit fag. Ok aspie.

>>53705985
By reading the OP.

>>53706022
If you sperg out about any board because they're shitposting in an already shitty thread then you're reddit.

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Purge the shitposter

>>53706050
Really? looks like you are feeding it attention instead of using the exterminator approved "report and hide" method.

>>53705499
fuck yeah

>>53705992
Do you need a massive fuck you for one specific target and potentially his buddies nearby but aren't in a hurry while cackling like a madman?

Deathstrike

Do you want a reliable, consistent, slightly less fuck you for 4 turns?

Manticore.

>>53703574
>>53703512

Revell sells them too

https://www.revell-shop.de/en/Products/Warhammer-Build-Paint/

If each legion were able to get a special new Terminator variant outside of the ones that already have them in non-FW models, what would you like to see?

>>53705012
>your sire is the manifest will and hope of mankind, all it's power and dreams

>get upset he's not more like a mortal man

i wish my dad was the manifested will and hopes of humanity
although he did subscribe the lotr tabletop magazine for me when i was young so he's pretty close

>>53703808
> I like to paint

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>>53706119
He's coming for you

GW needs to make better things for their special tools to make them more marketable and stuff.
Laser pointers that look like some of the different guns from different factions, like a green laser pointer gauss flayer or a red laser lasgun. Combat markers shaped like different close combat weapons that are slightly upscaled. Dice holders shaped like some vehicles and stuff would be nice too. Tape measure that looks like a small tyranid vessel with the tape itself being a long tendril. So many possibilities that they could make for tools and merch.

>>53706171
Who are still missing by now?
The two sneaky, the go fast legion and Wolves?

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Help me /tg/, I need to know the truth

Are there any special rules for the Iron Hands Chapter in the upcoming 8th edition?

I'm afraid I can't find any

>>53705060
and this is what i want the next text to speech emperor to be like

>>53706244
Something like that.

>>53705992
Do you want something that is likely to contribute to the game before turn 4, in an edition where games end in 3 turns?

Manticore.

>>53706171
Rollerskate Termies for the White Scars. Maybe loses heavy weapon options for speed?

You said Legion, so 30K Deathwing, with Blades of Caliban?

>>53706171
Could have worded this a bit better. Maybe something like: If each legion that doesn't already have a plastic version of specialized terminators were to get one, what would you like to see? or something?

>>53704886
I sure hope you're not basing that off of MWG's abominations they dare to call "batreps"

>>53706171
Imperial Fists Siege Terminators each with two power fists and two storm shields and the storm shields also have power fists on them and also there's a third storm shield on their back.

>>53705067
So if the Current Bobby G is Venom, that means he isn't the real Snake... Is he Alpharius?

>>53705461
Fucking knew it! Cawl's gonna be a raid boss soon™

>>53706306
Could have worded that a LOT better.

>>53706272
There are no special rules for any Chapter, Sept, Forge World, Hive Fleet or anything else except a little bit for some of the Traitor Legions, so you're in the same boat as everyone else has been in pretty much forever. Nope, no Iron Hands snowflake rules.

>>53706272
Wait for the codex to come out. All current rules are in order to create a line of balance and a fresh start for everyone and Space Marines will be one of the first codices to come out

>>53706306
>>53706361
Sorry, if it counts as an excuse I did just wake up so my English isn't in shape right now. I should have waited to post.

How are tzeentch daemons this edition? Do massed flamers of tzeentch have enough efficiency to burnnout hordes?

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>>53704886
>people stop seeing hordes, forget how to play against them
>new addition adds tons of things to help with hordes and give them some nuance, each army's horde technique having a way to counter it that requires some forethought and intelligence to beat. Nids have synapse, IG have characters, and orks have their mob rule bubbles.
>people act surprised when they just keep doing the same thing and it doesn't work in an edition that nobody has played enough to fully grasp the nuances of yet.

Wow, I'm so surprised.

Give it time, it'll balance out after people have played against hordes a couple of times and figured out how to deal with them. Dealing with hordes is very different now that blasts are gone and most weapons are getting less hits on them. Fighting a horde army will be a lesson in target priority unlike just about anything else the average 40k player has seen.

On the other hand, many twinlinked weapons just doubled their shots, so expect to see things like the Taurox's mini punisher cannon, twin linked assault cannons, multiple flamers, and other such weapons showing up more.

Plague Marines x7 - Blight Launcher x2, Power fist, Plasma gun, Icon of Despair - 218

Is that a bit too expensive for a unit of 7 marines? How would you build them?

>>53706362
The indices really just exist so that all the factions have rules at the start. Snowflake rules will undoubtedly come later.

So have the grey knights and Inquisition stopped liquidising folk who learn chaos exists?

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>>53706349
>Primaris marines go rogue and try to throw a coupe to take over the imperium for Cawl
>every chapter has been infiltrated and devolves into vicious infighting, unable to stop Cawl's grand plans
>save one

Best ending

Putting ten lootas in a BW with ten Flash gitz.
Brutal, kunnin or muckin about?
Had to leave out some ammo runts but managed to squeeze in another unit of boys in a trukk.

>>53705461
I'd be up for some Martian civil war event desu.

>>53706171
space wolves get a more lightly armoured, four legged variant

>>53706397
Haven't watched any of those battle reports, but are people using zone denial by deploying in a corner, distraction Rhino's and things like that to make sure the hordes can't effectively engage with all those models ?

Chart-anon, all the damage calcs for Blood Angels are done: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing

I'm still working on tabulating the cost-efficiencies, I think I need to reorganize some stuff. Suffice it to say that BA stuff is really efficient while in melee, and really not efficient when not in melee (At least the bigger things and characters that I've tabulated so far, infantry may fare better).

Will likely finish the cost-calcs tomorrow. Thinking about doing Necrons after that.

>>53705461
Wasn't the not AI thing technically kosher since it was powered by a buncha brains in a jar?

>>53706431
Eeeh, well you've got vastly different ranges on the guns and Ammo runts are on of the best parts of flash gitz.

>>53705963
Well you can't really package moderator censorship into an image

>>53705364
Pretty much, hes more recognising the rest of the admech will be pissed the fuck off

Any rumours about further Primaris releases?

We've got grav tank and Big Dread, we're probably going to get multipose kits, or at least kits of the DI units with different weapon options right? HQs with different loadouts, Hellblasters with different guns?

What do you anticipate, does the new Dark Imperium novel give any hints?

>>53706483
S'posed to be not!-devastators and not!-scouts

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Wip thread isnt up, what're you guys working on in preparation for the new edition?

>>53706171
Ehh...a space marine in a super cool special space marine armor mk1288516611336, totally not like everything else we already have. It's super special and cool and special and it like does stuff that's really amazing. For the Emperor!

>originally wanted to get the Triumvirate of the Imperium set and sell off Celestine and Cawl
>then decided that keeping Celestine may be a good idea since she's usable with all Imperium armies
>now thinking about keeping Cawl too because Mechanicum looks cool
Just kill me already

>>53706463
Deploying in a corner is a good way to get hemmed in and lose on objectives.

>>53706495
I think he meant more along the lines of:
Gorgon pattern, Scarab Occult, new plague guys, etc.

Foetid Blightdrone

Can someone sell me on this unit because it looks meh in almost every field. Am I missing something?

>>53706513
Me too.

>>53706469
Yeah...
But both units need a BW and those are kinda expensive and since I only got ten of each (well at least now that I've excluded the ammo runts) both units fit snug into one.

The range I don't see as too much of a problem. As long as I keep an eye out for LoS the lootas will have most anything in range anyway while I make sure the flash gitz get closer to their targets.

>>53706524
It's a mobile unit in a Death Guard army which is usually extremely slow, what else do you need?

>>53706513
I'm pretty sure the upcoming Death Guard will be called Deathshroud.

>>53706494
Made a bigmek on warbike out of the upper Body of a nob and the smaller servo crane.

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>>53706494
Nothing, ordered my craft supplies along my groups 8th ed order, so no primer.

My own hot-rod buggy is sitting on the shelf taunting me with it's bare plastic.

>>53706524
i cased 5 2D ap-4 wounds on it
after it's saves it took 2 damage

>>53706548
>deathshroud are the surviving terminators, not grave wardens
Feels bad man

>>53706483
In the book there's a unit of close combat guys with skull helmets, bigger shoulders and power knives/short swords

>>53706572
Well power scythes are just more iconic than cataphractii with fog-machines.

>>53704794
Grav Chutes let them drop 9" away from the enemy, Flamers are 8", so nay.

>>53706483
>>53706577
there's also the agressor marines, which are dudes with shoulder mounted rockets and (twin?) heavy flamers in maximus armor
hellblasters most likely won't get diffrent guns for while as the book specifically mentions they traded in the specialization of heavy weapons for the versatility of the hellblaster

>>53706540
You have Rhinos if you want faster death guard, for cheaper as well.

>>53706566
The thing has such low damage potential I'd most likely just ignore it for most of the game until it charges me.

Three attacks at WS4 and a flamer weapon doesn't really tickle my willy, especially for 141 points.

Think I'll just sell mine on eBay once I get the starter. Or just use it as a show case model.

>>53704794
if you are using a valkyrie to insert them : yay
if not , nay (unless it's a 4 man command squad full of flamers in which case you can just advance after deep striking)

>>53706583
I guess, yeah.
I wonder how phoenix guard are going to be, assuming they're what survive for EC's terminators.
Red Butchers are obvious.
If IW get anything, it'll probably be plastic tyrant siege termis.
NLs and AL get ????
WB get possessed terminators with X name?

>>53706502
Oh sure moving into the middle of the table to get instantly surrounded and overwhelmed sure is a whole lot better

>>53706593
>marines get firebats

lol gw ripped off blizzard

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>>53706494
THIRTY WOUNDS

>>53706524
Blisteringly fast (for Nurgle standards). The speed lets it use its two damn good gunk-flamers pretty well, it's not terrible in melee and its tough as nails.

>>53706620
All 'creative' companies are pretty much just circle-ripping eachother off.

>>53706620
aaand we've come full circle.

>>53706633
Ok, I missed the part where it has two flamers. That makes it a little better for sure.

Do we have any news on a new Typhus model? I mean, Kharn has a new model, Ahriman got a new model with Wrath of Magnus and now the focus is on the Death Guard, so it would make sense, right?

>>53705765
The subfactions often are a limiter on buffs crossing over, read the individual wordings on spells / abilities you intend to include paying attention to what keyword they affect.

>>53706614
Well, enjoy losing all your games if you can't figure out what you're supposed to do against that and actually think turtling in one corner could ever be a winning strategy.

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Reminder that the Tyranids are the only ones to have wiped out a playable race. Squats utterly and totally blown the fuck out, even GW confirms

I feel like except for people picking up Dark Imperium the actual release of 8e will feel underwhelming.

My local GW store people have been playing for days, there's all the books going around etc, so outside being able to take stuff home and the new starter not a lot will change.

>>53706431
IMO you want a 20 strong mob in BW for the reliable mob rule bubble, if youre going shooty.

>>53706683
>Playing against a horde as an elite army
>not using a denied flank, one of the simplest strategies in existence

I forgot that many 40k players have never played a game besides 6th/7th 40k and wouldn't really understand what that is but still.

>>53705765
Each faction has different buffs. A Space Marine Captain buff Marines of his chapter but nothing else. If you take different faction, your synergies might not work, but so long as you take that to heart, you can make some pretty terrifying mixed armies. For example, take the Starter set for Primaris Marines with a strong buff network, then add a unit of Custodes as a melee sledgehammer and add some Scions and Grey Knight Interceptors to pop up behind the enemy. There, combined four factions in a way that works.

>>53706711
Using tactics is WAAC. Get out of my hobby amd paint your riptides.

>>53706564
were do you get the goggle headed ork?

>>53706711
Except that actual, viable strategies don't always translate to 40k. As an anon pointed out above, the best way to screw over a Conscript blob is to charge them with something, anything. This forces them to fall back so they can use their guns, which means you can charge them again and again. And while his Conscripts are busy doing nothing, you deep-strike something next to his Commisar and kill him, at which point the Conscripts crumble. That has nothing to do with military tactics and everything to do with 40k

>>53705621
Someone please answer - it's killing me

>>53706697
my gw's is holding an assembly contest or some dumb shit that no one will go to
but they're open on sunday exclusively and there's a mini tournament then so that'll be fun

>>53706620
So its now Blizzard 2, GW 1

>>53706693
Why you so autist?

>>53705621
>>53706737
how well do you know them ?
my redshirts will give along pre orders before saturday if you say you can't make it later during the week
wouldn't count on it if you rarely if ever show your face at the store though

>>53706737
Probably zero. But I have no idea why you can't just use Deathworld Forest. I use that for all my Nurgle stuff and it works well. It's basically Death Guard Green but a shade darker. Makes them look grimier and not as shiny as the box art models, which is perfect imo.

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>‘Furthermore, he has continued experimental implantation and monitoring of the thus-far unused gene-seed in experimental test subjects. That of the Second, Third, Fourth, Eighth, Eleventh, Twelfth, Fourteenth, Fifteenth, Sixteenth, Seventeenth and Twentieth Legions all show no sign of degradation or incidence of unwelcome tendencies within the recipients. All is well, my lord, Archmagos Belisarius Cawl reassures you. He is so satisfied that I am instructed to repeat his request that those gene-lines be put into full production and be allowed to serve the Imperium as the Emperor intended.’

>within the recipients.
Since Cawl has made a few trial Primaris out of the Traitor Legions, would it'd be too snowflaky of me to paint my Primaris in mixed-matched squads using their colors, with say a Martian shoulder pad like the techmarines have to cover up their iconography?
Basically the Unnumbered Sons from Dark Imperium, but with traitor paint schemes.

>>53706758
>peopel running around advertising they're of traitor stock
yeah no way that could go wrong

In a game of 40K, how long does a turn last from the perspective of the miniatures?
Is it like in D&D, with the 6 seconds rule?

>>53706758
Very snowflaky, but you're basically doing Martian Primaris ex-Traitor Deathwatch, so I like it.

>>53706766
What I thought, thanks though.

>>53706587
>>53706602
Good to know. Still got 10 dudes left to make, so i might as well leave off with them. Plasma and volley guns it is.

>>53706735
I soak up the charge dont care about my conscripts survivak like some moron and let them do whatever they can one the combats are done my other lines are ready to shoot the fuck of you from outside your consolidate range.

This are issues oldschool players have dealt with before, theyre manageable its just going to take some thought and games played.

>>53706735
except guard have an order called "get back in the fight" that allows them to immediately fire after falling back out of combat, that strategy would not work against conscripts at all.

On top of that, those conscripts are so insanely cheap that odds are by just eating a charge the conscripts have paid for themselves. Now that IG can immediately break combat at will, your assault unit will be left in the open and he can unload at point blank range with the rest of his army.

Why would Guilliman be against using traitor genestock?

He personally KNEW people from traitor legions that stayed loyal. Surely Guilliman must realize more than anyone that loyalty isn't tied to geneseed.

Who the fuck is writing this shit? Why has Guilliman gone so quickly from one of the more pragmatic primarchs to ridiculously superstitious?

>>53706792
maybe recreating a new legion of the traitor legion would have risks of them asking too many questions about their primarchs, or maybe trying to find them just to find out why they fell, or maybe their primarchs would have some sway over them?
whatever the reason, it's playing with fire

>>53706771
I don't know if there ever was an official number, and as the scale is all out of place and the ranges unrealistic it's kind of difficult to judge.

>>53706792
10k years of stasis, the whole galaxy is already mad and it might not be an accident. Also he is a genius politician and his politician senses are tingling that the current IoM is really sensitive about heresy and stuff. Civil war right now would be really devastating.

>>53706792
But those were individual who stayed loyal. The vast majority of those legion went traitor, often with little provocation.

Add that to how much the existing Imperium would be agains the idea of having marines based on traitor geneseed, and it is a very, very bad idea.

>>53706792
Because it would hurt morale of the imperium. No one in 40k knows anything about the traitor legions except that they have been killing them for 10k years. They won't care if a handful had stayed loyal

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>>53706775
Even though it's still snowflaky, Martian ex-Traitor Deathwatch does sound cool, and it'd would help unify the models more.
I'll probably won't do it, but the idea's still there.

Anyone have any images of the Primaris booklet from the Dark Imperium set?

Specifically, I am looking for a picture of a heraldry guide for Black Templar Primaris Marines. I remember seeing a low quality image of it somewhere, but haven't seen it anywhere else. I just remember that it said that a white cross over a black pauldron indicated a "support" role (White crosses indicated chaplains according to the old BT Codex)

>>53706410
>So have the grey knights and Inquisition stopped liquidising folk who learn chaos exists?
nope, why should they?

>>53706792
Imagine making world eater chapters, how long until they go full khorne?

>>53706418
So basically, this is star wars with the clone issue again. Bellisarius palpatine confirmed

What would you take from 7th and shove back into 8th?
I don't even care if armor value is gone, just give me back differing toughness values for the front and rear of vehicles.

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So I decided to start painting shit, I got GW's Imperial Primer (the paint bottle, not the spray) and a bunch of different colors. However, when I apply the primer it just trickles down like a wash instead of covering the miniature. Help please

>>53704794
people should seriously get rid of this flamer boner that everyone seems to be having right now

dont fucking put shitty weapons on bs 3+ models just cause they autohit

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>>53706871
riptide strength and riptide wings. It's the best model looks-wise in entire game.

>>53706852
>Blood for the Red Sands of Mars! Skulls for the Archimagos!

>>53706778
if you want you could paint them in their legion's pre primarch scheme , it would be a lot more subtle (and it's actually what most loyalists of traitor legions did before black shields became the new hip thing)
though i'm not sure all traitor legions have a reference for that

Torn between Scout/Sternguard heavy Marines and Melee Horde Tyranids with the new edition. Latter seems strong, but former might too with a lot of sniper rifles to pick off characters and all.

>>53706874
stir up all the chunks at the bottom
try to mash it into a paste, then water it down
generally brush on primer will always be subpar to spray primer, though

>>53706874
Uhh. Shake it a ton beforehand or something perhaps? I have no idea.

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>>53706856
I have this, it shows that Primaris use Close Support, Fire Support and Battleline, and there's another White Scar Successor. It might help you out? If not maybe you could pause one of the unboxing videos, they flip through the books usually and you might get the page you need.

>>53706874
Did you shake it?

>>53706861
without the nails quite a while
*cough* minotaurs *cough*

>>53706874
imperial primer is absolute trash
just don't use it and basecoat in abbadon black if you really have to

>>53706874
it's not meant to be bubbling like that. The pot probably had a broken seal or something. Hope you kept the receipt.

>>53706871
Or like +1 to saves from front and -1 to saves from rear.

>>53706879
>Hey Fio'saal'pa'jeet, my wifi broke down again!

>>53706877
Calm down dude. Only asking because I've been out of the game for a good ~2 years or so, and back when bs mattered, it wasn't a good choice for scions. Good for ig, and flamer goon squads was one my favorite tactics with sm drop pods.

Where can i find the blank template?

is there any rules on firing arcs, or the like?
with what ive seen of the rules, i can legally fire a leman russ hull-mounted lascannon directly behind it

>>53706879
Real talk, I haven't had wi-fi for weeks, has the Tau 8th general been over 1000 posts of crying about nerfs?

>>53706892
>>53706893
>>53706895
I did shake and stir it a lot, it just bubbles more.

>>53706906
I see, thanks.

>>53706908
Seal was fine when I opened it. I ordered this from eBay, and I suspect it's been sitting in the sun a lot while in transit. Could this be the cause?

>in the HH series, an extremist religious faction within Sister of Silence emerge that comes in conflict with the secularists

>Years later in 41K, all Sisters of Silence are religious nuts who believe the Emperor is a god

Now we know who won and I am pissed. Why does 40K always have the secularists losing? Now there is nothing that makes the SoS distinct from the SoB.

>>53706732
Old metal burna boy.
There are some newer variants on the.. warbiker and dakkajet kits but they lack his sheer glee.

>>53706941
nah they all bought nid armies

>>53706937
Yes you can. And your sponsons can fire through the hull to the other side of the tank.

>>53706946
thanks!

>>53706936
someone didn't read the thread
>>53703586
alternatively, you could have used a colored one and changed shit

>>53706944
I dunno. I guess to show as harsher times come, people will start resorting to asking for help from gods or outside beings or something? It's something I don't like though, sad to see it happening.

>>53706956
Oh forgot the new burna/loota kit has some too.

>>53706944
Proof that secularism is a meme that gets BTFO everytime

Sort of want to do melee Catachan guard. Like, massed conscript spam with Straken and Priests and Commisars to back it up. Wish you could use Warrior Weapons stll.

>>53706944
Because Lorgar was right, even Guilliman admits that in the latest book.

>>53706944
Because Secularism is dumb.

>>53706979
People are sheep that'd rather obey a god than follow a leader?

Rate my first attempt at a Deathguard army.

<Battalion Detachment>

-HQ-
Lord of Contagion - Plaguereaper - 184
Malignant Plaguecaster - Corrupted Staff - 110
Noxious Blightbringer - Cursed Plague Bell, Plasma Pistol - 80

-Troops-
Poxwalkers x19 - 114
Poxwalkers x20 - 120
Plague Marines x7 - Plasma Gun, Plaguesword, Power Fist - 183
Plague Marines x7 - Plasma Gun, Plaguesword, Power Fist - 183

-Tranports-
Chaos Rhino - Combi-bolter, Combi-flamer - 81
Chaos Rhino - Combi-bolter, Combi-flamer - 81

-Fast Attack-
Foetid Bloat-drone - Plaguespitters x2, Plague Probe - 158

<Vanguard Detachment>

-HQ-
Typhus - Manreaper, Destroyer Hive - 164

-Elites-
Helbrute - Twin Lascannon, Power Scourge - 165
Helbrute - Helbrute Fist w/ Heavy Flamer, Power Scourge - 172

-Heavy Support-
Chaos Predator - Twin Lascannon, Lascannon x2 - 202

Total - 1997
Command Points - 7

for those who have read the leaks or blown someone at GW; do you need to pay points for termagants spawned by a tervigon? Initial rules leaks hinted that you would, and Matt at miniwargaming says you do. But I can't find any mention of it in the tervigons rules, it doesn't mention them being summoned, or treated as reinforcements. Now I've only got the xenos index I haven't read the rulebook itself so maybe I've missed something there.

Halp?

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>>53706944

>>53706941
Seems like it did. They're even realizing their infantry has been buffed.
>>53697338

>>53706983
chill mohammed Canada already got your blasphemy law we dont need to go full sharia.

>>53706937
They removed all facing type stuff to stop sperg arguments about "nuh uh, thats 42 degrees, not 45, it can't do it!"

>>53707000
You pay for spawning new units.
Reinforcing existing ones is free.

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>>53707003

>>53705765
Something amusing with sisters of battle is since their number of acts of faith for the army does not scale from army size if you just take one unit of sisters they get an additional move or shoot or fight or model every turn 83% of the time.

So picking one of whatever SoB infantry unit you want and running them in any imperium army seems like a pretty okay idea to me. Seraphim can move 24" and fire 4d6 autohit s3 flamers (or fire 8d6 hits instead if in melee already), or retributors can double fire multi-meltas/heavy bolters/heavy flamers, or crusaders/repentia can get a free fight phase every turn they start in melee, etc.

Celestine also comes with her own act of faith every turn so you could take one infantry plus her and both would still get a personal AoF, with no need to roll for Celestine's. She can fly 24", or fire her heavy flamer twice, or get a free fight phase with 6 attacks of a strength 7 ap-3 2 damage sword, or heal d3 wounds or bring back two bodyguards instead of one to make firing at her even more pointless.

>>53706874
Get the spray can, it save you the trouble of priming. Priming with a brush is a pain in the ass to get the smooth surface.

In a long run, get an airbrush.

>>53704541

>Spoken to no one
>Who the fuck is Alicia Dominica again?

>>53707007
I said secularism was dumb, not that governments or authoritarianism are good, bucko.

>My primarch. You've risen from the dead, it's a miracle!

>Oh hey... you... Marklar Corgi or something right?

>It's... Marneus Calgar...

>Yeah Calamari, that's what I said. Anyway you watch Macragge for a little while I'm going to fly around the galaxy with this robot guy, some heretics and my new aeldari girlfriend

>You mean Eldar?

>Sure whatever. I gotta go.

>Oh... o...okay.... goodbye my liege, I hope we can have a crusade or something when you get back

>**some time later**

>My lord, you've returned to Macragge. Is it time to launch a new crusade?

>Oh hey, Kilimanjaro, you're still here.

>I've been eagerly awaiting...

>Yeah yeah shut up. We're doing a crusade.

>We are? I've been waiting for this day. To march into battle at the side of my primarch will be an honor without equal! I will assemble the battle companies at once!

>Good idea, get them altogether and tell them to move their shit out of the fortress monastery, I need their bunks for my new marines.

>New... new marines?

>**Primaris marine walks in, towering over **

>Greetings Martin Caldari, my name is Chadus Maximus. I like to paint.

>>53706749
sadly barely know them

>>53706754
because I know I'll regret not using THE DG Green later down the line

So what's the way to start a Deldar army in 8th? In terms of a basic HQ and troops to start a detachment. Of course start collecting is always there but I was curious about other opinions.

Never looked into them much during 7th but I always loved their models.

>>53706993
No special weapons on your plague marines?

>>53707025
"Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest"

>>53706993
What's the plan? What are the zombies for, for instance?

>>53707039
>Plasma Gun, Plaguesword, Power Fist
can you read?

>>53707026
I chuckled

>>53703534
Over watch as tanks can now assault.

>>53707043
>what are these most linear unit with a single really blunt task to do for?
I suppose they fly circles around the enemy while chugging out mortal wounds and forces the enemy to move d6'' on random direction every turn.

>>53706944
>soulless things believing in a god

For what purpose?

>>53707039
Using the ones from the new starter. Just gave them what they're armed with. Not really sure how to build them properly. What special weapons would you suggest?

>>53707047
Thats on the champion, you can take 2 special weapons in addition to that.

>>53707042
Diderot can eat my whole ass.

>>53707009
good, my friend is a WAAC shitlord

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>>53706958
YUS

>>53707042
Ow the edge

>>53707042
Robespierre had a good head on his shoulders

>Missile launchers are actually good now
I'm thinking of putting one in all of my tactical squads/csm squads now, they look fun as fuck

>>53707068
It is still one of the best Marine colour schemes ever devised.
Dropping it was the most damning evidence of the the brain damage inflicted by butchers nails

Noob question here.

If a weapon is Heavy6, does it mean that for each shot fired it hits six times or do I have to roll six dice? then, would the unit targeted would roll for wound saves (or invlunerable?) on each hit that made it through the dice or do you directly roll six times and then apply the damage and then roll saves for each wound? All this would be regardless the attack stats of the unit which is only for melee right (so if a unit has attack 3 it doesn't shoot three times)?

For example I am looking at the Exocrine which has Bioplasma which is 36" (I assume that is a good range) Heavy6 S7 AP-3 D2. If the model does not move I can add 1 to hit (which I guess would be the same as adding 1 to the BS so I hit at 3+) and shoot the weapons twice so in one shooting I can dish out 12 hits which inflict 2 wounds. If the unit is just one vehicle, does it mean that all hits go to the vehicle and do 2 wounds for each successful hit? Is this then good for killing units such as primaris or terminators? would it be a waste to shoot at hordes with it? Am I actually completely misreading the whole thing and it just doesn't work like that?

>>53707080
Six shots, to hits, to wound and saves.

>>53707056
Oh are there no options in the kit? I'm probably going to convert mine then. Planning on running a flamer, flamer, combi flamer squad and a blight launcher, blight launcher, combi plasma squad.

If you used Fix Bayonets and Harler was in aura range, would units get +1 to melee even if its the Shooting phase?

>>53707051
They're slow, not that resilient (T3 and 7+, FNP isn't enough to save them), can't shoot and don't hit hard. Since the Plague Marines are apparently going in Rhinos, they won't be useful as screening either.
So yes, I have a hard time figuring what they'll do. If you something to sit on an objective your side of the map, at least remove one of these and replace them with some long range weaponery to have more impact in the game.

>>53707079
Boring ass grey with a bit of blue? Are you joking?

It's like they took smurfs scheme and said "how can we make this even more bland and stupid"

>>53707086
White with blue.

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>>53707080
Open the rulebook, faggot.

>>53707068
Should have went with a painfully obvious not!WorldEaters name, like Planet Munchers or something

>>53707079
It was probably less a case of WE changing their armour colour and more a case of them becoming too nuts to clean it. They were already known for coming back from a battle covered from head to toe in blood on a regular basis.

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>>53707072

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>>53707086

>>53707085
>Since the Plague Marines are apparently going in Rhinos, they won't be useful as screening either.
Not him but if your guys are in non-flying transports that's precisely when you need screening, unless you want your expensive squad getting locked in its transport uselessly all game, or dying outright, when it gets surrounded.

>>53706418
>>Primaris marines go rogue and try to throw a coupe
>coupe
They're going to throw a small car?

>>53707093
I am and I have been reading it, I was asking for clarification as I have never ever played a game. Keep your turbo autism for yourself and learn to empathise

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>>53706494
I'm making some admech.

>>53707113
The new rules are written to a level a 10 year old can understand and they're only 12 pages long. I think you can figure it out without begging for spoonfeeding, champ.

>>53707082
So I roll a dice for each shot, each one that makes it is a hit, then the target unit rolls saves for each wound inflicted so if 3 shots make it the target unit rolls for 6 saves if the weapon is D2?

>>53707111
They're strong enough!

>>53707115
Drill your barrels you slut.

>>53707127
No, holy fuck, read the rules, this is all literally covered in a single fucking page.

>>53707132
>tfw have never drilled a single barrel of mine
Sue me you autists

>>53707043
They stay in front of Typhus as a screen while Typhus buffs their strength and toughness.

Lord of Contagion joins one of the Plague Marine units in a Rhino and they drive to whatever unit needs dealing with by them.

Noxious Blightbringer chills with Typhus behind the screen of Poxwalkers and lets them advance further then helps Typhus out in any fight he may be in.

The second unit of Plague Marines are accompanied by the Plaguecaster to get up close and start casting spells and throwing out mortal wounds.

Foetid Bloat-drone flies around spraying back line units/hordes with 2d6 flamer shots.

The Power Scourge Helbrute will go after elite units with its seven attacks while pelting vehicles/characters/monsters with its Twin Lascannon. The other Helbrute will go after whatever threat needs dealing with since he has an answer to almost every type of unit with either 5 strength 12 -3 3D fist attacks or 8 strength 8 -2 2D scourge attacks all the while throwing flames where need be.

Chaos Predator will be sitting in the back taking out whatever high wound models need to disappear.

>>53707127
Yes, though Damage specificly is rolled after saves.
Though Disgutingly Resillient and similar damage negation effect then come after that again.

>>53707127
In the case of a heavy6 weapon, you declare the attack and roll 6 dice, then take any hits and roll them for wounds, your opponent then makes that many saves, he then takes damage

>>53706874
If it's a resin model, have you cleaned it with soapy water beforehand?

>>53707127
You roll a dice for each shot.
That's to hit
Then you roll a dice for each hit.
That's to wound/damage
Then the other player rolls a dice for each wound/damage.
That's the save.

>>53704541
According to that old piece of lore that was IIRC in Realms of Chaos books, while battling Horus Emperor was losing because he still loved his Primarch son. He then cast away all of his love, literally part of his soul, to be able to destroy Horus with all his might.

Emperor changed during that battle and was no longer the same person. This is also talked about in Inquisitor rulebook at the beginning. Some anonymous high authority persons discuss about whetever or not they should bring Emperor back or not. One of their fears was that Emperor has changes and man they woukd bring back wouls not be the same person.

So of course Guilliman saw non loving Emperor, for Emps is no longer the same he was.

What is better points-cost wise for GK, a dreadnought or a dreadknight? Dreadknight of course is more powerfull, but it's not by a large amount when you consider it's cost versus a dreadnought. One thing to keep in mind is that dreadknight has a damage chart, while a dreadnought doesn't meaning it can carry on fucking shit up for a while.

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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/06/08/the-ultimate-showdown/

>When you meet the guy that made your codex's utter shit for two editions and plan to fuck him live on air in a tabletop game

>>53707197
>Bite the pillow
>This will be for what you did to Tyranids

That pic is just perfect meme material