what's /tg/'s favorite?

>>53694139
What the fuck is "punk" about flying pyramids, sounds like the ancient equivalent of cogfoppery. If it doesn't focus on the underclass, with flying pyramids only representing how high the nobility is above the populace, it's not punk.
And how is Panem retro-futuristic, the books didn't go into that much detail and the films were very straightforward standard hollywood sci-fi aesthetic. If the example was stargate or something, I'd understand, but Panem? No idea what you're on about there.

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>>53694193

>>53694193
Good job.

>>53694193
for subatomic ants

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>>53694193
shamfu dispray

>>53694238
Is TES really low fantasy? With wizard giulds and shiet
and DF has areas regularly swarmed by skeleton elephants

>>53694300
Presumably they mean 'low fantasy' as in 'gritty'.

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>>53694193
Atompunk is for ants?

>>53694326
>ASOIAF
>dark fantasy
It fits the descripton of low fantasy much better.

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>>53694352
>the bible

>>53694159
Not punk
>>53694177
Not punk

"Punk" isn't just retro-futurism, that's why we have the unrelated term retro-futurism. And steampunk didn't come first, Cyberpunk came first. Cyberpunk extrapolated the increased mechanisation of labor, expanding populations and inflating crime rates to their logical extremes, you have giga-cities that are full of unemployed criminals, under the feet of the few actually powerful people in the world. You can see where both the cyber and punk fit in to that.

Steampunk was the idea of taking those structure and themes, and porting them into a victorian setting, where again, large technological advances was causing huge upheavals in the workforce and the class divide was widening. Good examples of steampunk are the Bas-Lag series and Dishonoured. Not Wild Wild West. It was after the genre was established that the retro-futuristic aesthetic became popular, and so people started referring anything even tangentially looking like futuristic steam tech as steampunk, even if it was clockwork and had nothing to do with class struggle. Hence the term cogfoppery.
Just fucking call it "50's era retro aesthetic" or "Ancient egyptians with spaceships", it's easier to understand, doesn't sound retarded and doesn't shit on the punk element.
Oh, and soft science low fantasy. Dune is the shit.

>>53694353
Atompunk is on the atomic level.

>>53694404
>a dude beats an angel in a wrestling match

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>This entire shitposting
Son, this is not deviantart. Go back to your hugbox and don't return.

>>53694455
>a high level cleric divides the red sea

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>>53694415
>it's more fun this way

>>53694352
>the bible

Kek

>>53694245
WHERE THE FUCK DO THE ADDITIONAL GLASSES KEEP COMING FROM

>>53694436
This is completely inaccurate. Steampunk was coined to refer to 'victorian fantasies' by K. W. Jeter.
It was never intended to refer to some sort of retro futuristic cyberpunk equivalent.
Any ideas about social rebellion and class conflict were later additions.

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I do enjoy Sandal"""punk""" I guess.

>>53694404
Read Old Testament. It's leaking testosterone and makes bits from other, contemporary religions look tamed and low-key when compared. Only maybe Hindu myths are more absurd with heroic stuff

>>53694234
Flying pyramids and razor-sharpening pyramids were 1960s/70s memes.

>>53694556

Hindu mythology is basically a shonen anime.

>>53694139
>>53694177
>>53694291
>>53694306
>I don't understand the concept of Retrofuturism: The Series

>>53694401
>I know shit about wuxia: The Post

>>53694436
>>53694234
just like how faggot, cuck, and weeb mean absolutely nothing these days, neither does "punk".

So complaining about how "this is not punk" is just as literally meaningless as complaining that literally does not mean literally anymore.

>>53694573
The entirety of middle and east asian mythology is
>India keeps raving about twenty gorrillion gigaarms destroying fifteen hundred thousand universes per attosecond
>China keeps trying to win every powerlevel argument with BUT MUH WUKONG
>Japan is filled to the brim with edge and waifus

>>53694139
>Asterix
wat

>>53694404
who is this qt
I feel like I remember her from somewhere

>>53694664
And magical ballsack racoons.

>>53694550
Bullshit, but it's not like any of this is important.
Watch what you like, read what you like, be sure you agree on the meaning of all those names with the person you're talking to. That's what really matters.

>>53694385
he wanted to fuck a manatee?

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>>53694732
Anne-chan/Vamirio-sama from the manga Helck. She's a treasure.

>>53694743
Japan is basically full That Guy territory.

>>53694767
>Helck
oh fuck I remember this manga
it was fucking great, I need to catch up

>>53694773
It's grorious

>>53694265
the post-cyberpunk bit is kind of bullshit

>>53694300
TES doesn't take place on Earth so it's High Fantasy by default.

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>>53694801
Yeah It's really fun. Prepare for a lot of funny moments. I mean, it's a gag manga after all

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>>53694914
I don't like what you are doing.

>>53694900
fuck you

>>53694689
And Obelix anon, keep up.

>>53694401
>Journey to the West
>Wuxia
Wat.

>>53694664
Chinese fiction is garbage. Historical and otherwise.

No wonder they love Transformers, it's a step up.

>>53695241
I mean, have you read it? Important fights always are full blown DBZ shit

>>53695311
Xianxia is what Journey to the West is, as is DBZ especially considering the original Dragonball is based on Journey to the West.
Xianxia is, effectively, the "high fantasy" to Wuxia's "low fantasy".
It's not a 100% accurate comparison, but it gets the idea across.

>>53695311
>I also don't know what wuxia is: The Supplement

>all these punks
>no primal punk

>>53695262
Wukong can utterly destroy anyone from your shitty gweilo fiction.
>Can leap across infinity
>One with the universe
>72 entire transformations
>Equal to Heaven
>20 miles tall on a bad day

How can godlets even compete?

>>53694650
Shut up faggot poser

>>53694238
>>53694300
i was just about to ask what low fantasy includes if TES is low fantasy

>>53695557
Low Fantasy means "the story takes place in Earth".

>>53694159
bioshock: infinite is straight dieselpunk what the fuck

>>53694238
>>53694300
>>53694370
>a rather vauge[sic] one this
It's not vague at all and this retard has the wrong of it entirely. Set in our world = low fantasy, set in another world = high fantasy. Game of Thrones and Elder Scrolls are high fantasy, Neverwhere and Lord of the Rings are low fantasy. I'm not positive about dorfort and idk what that weeb shit is, but Skyrim and Discworld are both high while LotR is low (which most people don't realise even if they know the proper definitions, but Tolkien confirmed that it's set in ancient Europe).

TES is scifan as well, it has STRONG scifi elements if you dig any deeper than the first hour of any of the games besides Arena and magic is treated as an extra set of physical laws rather than a mysterious force of mystery.

Basically I don't even give a fuck about the misuse of the -punk term but this shit's still pretty bad imo.

>>53694556
>two of God's prophets were a mad wizard (the second prophet inherited a significant portion the first prophet's soul)
>resurrected the dead, multiplied oil and flour infinitely, dropped fireballs on armies' heads, cursed Jezebel to be eaten by her own hounds, summoned wild bears to tear apart delinquents who made fun of his baldness et cetera
>theologists theorise that this soul was also passed down to Jesus which is why he does shit like fling potent curses at trees, resurrect the dead and transmute liquids
Also don't forget that while its canonical nature has historically been contested Revelations is generally considered canonical and features Jesus turning his tongue into a sword among other extremely metal shit.

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>>53695311
DBZ is literally Journey to the West fanfiction, that's not even a secret or anything. I like magical golden ragemonkeys but DBZ is a pretty lame take on it.

>>53694326
This is best fantasy, prove me wrong

also i think Dark Souls and Warhammer should fit in here

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The only good one is Solarpunk

>>53694238
>discworld
>low fantasy
What the fuck. It's satirical high fantasy.

>>53697229
Lord of the Rings is set on earth?

>>53694265
>Artificial dichotomy between cyberpunk and post cyberpunk

REeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

>>53694306
>Rocketeer and Captain America
somewhat
>BTAS
nigga what

>>53694353
Usually the ants are giant though.

>>53698689
It's literally Christian facfiction

>>53694209
>doesn't list Warhammer 40k, the icon of Science Fantasy

>>53698689
Yeah. We're living in the age of man after magic has faded from the world.

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>>53698763
Are you perhaps getting Tolkien confused with his good friend Lewis?

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>>53694415

Urban Fantasy not mentioning Dresden Files?

>>53698733
I guess he moronically thinks it is because the Art Deco look of the buildings and the tommyguns the bad guys use that contrast with some the high tech toys Batman uses like computers and jets.

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c'mon /tg/, don't fight over nomenclature, what's your favorite setting?? Is it this one??

>>53694234
Punk is a meme now.

>>53698935
can you really call this punk and not just Prehistoric Fantasy? because there is nothing really alternative about this

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>>53694139
>Those jagged edges between fill and line
>on every fucking image
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>53698814
I would have said that the artist is trying to avoid mentioning utter trash but Baccano! is up there so I don't know what to tell you.

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Is there a such thing as Faggot Punk?

>>53699295
fagpunk? it's rare anon

>>53694914
>Prepare for a lot of funny moments.
I came back just to say fuck you

>>53698766
40k is Dark Science Fantasy. I think.

>>53698766
40k is a gay comedy though.

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>>53700003

>>53700038
It's literally Adam Sandler's: Broke Back Mountain in Space staring Jim Cary and Micheal Jordan.

>>53694664
Meanwhile Northern Mediterannean Mythology is basically a Soap Opera.

I like how Amaterasu and Susanoo basically define Japan - one is the Sun Waifu, the other the Sea Edge; and they're sibilings.

>>53694234
>cogfoppery

lol it's one of these guys. I bet he thinks "real" steampunk is communism with cogs.

What a fucking retarded thread, are we being invaded by reddit or just morons?

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>>53694468
>MLP: FIM

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>>53698617
I unironically like it

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>>53694139
veni, vidi, vici

>>53695311
>>53697425

That would be DB

>>53694139
>inb4 we wuz kangz

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>>53694352
>the bible

I was gonna make a complaint, but I realized where I was.

>>53694238
Huh, they know about Moribito

>>53694265
>Thank God everything is online, otherwise we'd have to leave the apartment to do this!

You might as well just include real life in the cyberpunk section.

>>53694650
>just like how faggot, cuck, and weeb mean absolutely nothing these days, neither does "punk".
Sure they do. They mean "person I don't like."

>no Actionpunk
>no Rice Western
>no Bollypoopunk

lame list thread tbhwu

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>>53694238
>TES
>Low Fantasy

bullshit

>>53702908
>muh dungmer
t. slant-eyed knife-ear

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>>53702908
Joke's on you, I like pomegranates.

>>53698909
This is advanced bait.

>>53702954
Filthy nord.

Where would something like the settings of Fallen London/A House of Many Doors fit? Obviously they have some *punk elements, but I feel like their dark/secretive nature sets them apart.

>>53703394
>dark/secretive nature
I'm not familiar with the works you mentioned, but the listed genre definitions don't get into horror.

>>53697229
>bioshock: infinite is straight dieselpunk what the fuck
Bioshock is straight dieselpunk, Bioshock Infinite is straight steampunk.

>implying biopunk exists

>>53703909
>>implying biopunk exists
Orc Stain and NGE are a thing, you know.

>>53698733
Art deco architecture, retro weapons and designs, all screens are black and white, all cops wear old fashioned leather coats, all trains are steam or diesel, multiple characters use ancient german-style rockets to get around, and didn't batman have a computer with an old fashioned typewriter keyboard?

>>53703909
>spoiler
What is SLA Industries for ten quid, Alex?

>>53699295
>>53699312
As a musical genre, sure.

And as a setting for stories, but it's unrelated to sci-fi or fantasy.

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>>53702820
It is.

>>53704107
Corps did nothing wrong.
Fuck the plebes.

>>53702908
>stealth archery

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>>53694139
Dieselpunk, easy

zeppelins, giant tanks, smoke bellowing engines, B-17s on steroids, flying wings, art deco, the whole nine yards

i know i will get a whole lot of flak for neglecting the "punk" aspect, but i just really like the look
and going with roaring 20s optimism, indiana jones adventures, and other two-fisted tales of awesome really appeals to me
even the depressing 30s can have adventurous tales of gangster fights and nazi-punching

i like fun and adventure with a paint of 1930s super science

>>53702889
Aight I'll bite. Wtf.

Guys I have been thinking and was there ever a setting covering MedievalPunk ?

to explain how I see MedievalPunk would be Earth but more decentralized and with religion being a high factor again plus all the buildings are techno Gothic and the world is using neo medieval technology.

Example: knights and men-at-arms being a thing and wearing medieval power armor, having the USA turn into something more like medieval Italy with various state republics, inner conflict between minor lords and rulers.

Another question for me is that if I would make this into a game which system should I use ?

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>>53704678
forgot pic

>>53704678
This sounds like a good description of the Imperium of Man, honestly.

>>53704728
some people said that but I do not agree since the Imperium of Man is by it's nature (or at least was built to be) very centralized. inner conflict "war" is a rare thing and usually such things invoke the ire of the Imperium at large.
The Imperium of Man is more like a weird Gothic version of Rome before it's fall when it was decadent.

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>>53694139
What about desert punk?

>>53704831
That's more down to specific setting details, as an aesthetic it's an almost perfect match.

>>53694468
I fucking love earthsea. Although, from the perspective of literally anywhere except Ged it's low fantasy. They just assume wizards exsist and maybe really rich people knowing some.

All of the artist's pictures I totally agree with as general descriptions.

I knew as soon as I saw this thread though it would be filled with whiny, pedantic bullshit.

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>>53704866
Someone say desert punk?!

>>53694291

Damnit, I thought I coined this phrase.

Fuck it, I'm still going to make my hybrid Fallout/Archer/Venture Bros setting someday.

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>>53705429
It's also sometimes called Raygun Gothic.

Heinlein's short stories often went in this direction, a sorta "50s Americana with chrome hovercars and rocket-skating drive in waitresses" thing.

>>53694139
Fuck off back to >>>/deviantart with this shit

>>53704107
>ShinRa HQ

I love me some medievalpunk

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>>53698747
>tfw we are the ants

This is like autism made incarnate.

How can "sci-fi" cover settings ranging from like Gattaca, to something post-humanity hundreds of thousands of years away, but retro-futurism has to have a "punk", not just for every chronological and technological era, but fucking geological enviroments, demographics and education level?

>>53694431
>not including Xanth

Shamefur dispray

>>53694139
Which genre does Sword in the Stone, and the old Arthur belong. I'm assuming Medieval Fantasy, but i'm not sure.

>>53703394
Fallen London is pretty much just straight-forward gothic horror.

>>53706225
That's it's own genre - arthurianpunk.

>>53706632
Surely that would only apply to the rare setting that treats that as a retrofuturistic element. Say, some adaptations of a Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court or, at a stretch, the Princess Bride with its torture machine and very modern interpretation of medieval monarchy.

>>53706659
I was actually just shitposting. You have shamed me with your measured response.

There are so many versions of the Arthurian legend that it is often treated as a genre in its own right.
Newer versions are usually put under historical fantasy though, so you are correct.

>>53706707
I hear the Guy Ritchie one goes a bit in that direction, treating it as an overt fantasy story, rather than a low fantasy demythication like many do (turning Merlin into a druid or just a clever chemist/engineer, for example). I wouldn't know, I haven't seen it.

And that's the first time my own shitposting strategy of measured, thoughtful responses to ludicrous posts, lending them an unearned air of legitimacy, has ever worked well enough to garner a comment. This only serves to encourage me.

>>53704940
I can agree on that just being set in a not so distant future on Earth.

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>>53695262
Damn you Carlos

>>53703982
A setting they should actually get round to rereleasing, where the fuck is is it Nightfall?

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>>53694139
What about a setting that incorporates a low-fantasy medieval world into our modern 2017 world? I'd enjoy seeing Trump the Emperor be guarded by glorious American Knights with rifles and swords on their sides. The closest I can think of is FFXV, but it's high-fantasy.

>>53701402
And Norse basically amounts to some bleak depressing acceptance that everything is going to die so lets get drunk as fuck whilst we still can.

>>53709142
Final Fantasy is considered high fantasy? It makes sense I suppose with all the mana and spells bullshit, but all the contemporary tech should put it closer in urban fantasy or science fantasy

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>>53709142
modern feudal?
anachronistic urban fantasy?
Science Fantasy?

>>53709491
Funny how that isn't its legacy in modern literature at all.
Just like the winged helmets turned horned a some point inevitability turned into endless monster slaying.

>>53709569
>>53709834

Modern feudal sounds accurate. Are there any shows, movies, books, games or anime with this kind of setting?

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>>53705407

>>53694326
>you might think you've peeped the scene
>you haven't
>the real one's far too mean

>>53694238
Discworld isn't low fantasy, it satirizes like 90% of these.
Watch stories are generally the "lowest" though
>>53694352
Anything relating to Cohen the Barbarian and the Silver Horde
Arguably the Witches
>>53694177
Leonard da Quirm, a bunch of later dwarf tech
>>53694159
Moist von Lipwig
>>53694139
Djelibeybi, Tsort, Ephebe, Omnia to a degree
>>53694370
Death/Susan stories, UU stories, Rincewind stories
>>53694401
Interesting Times
>>53694468
UU