Warhammer 40k General /40kg/

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First for Space Spics.

For the Greater Good!

3rd for intercessors and hellblasters rerolling 1's and 2's to hit are okay I guess

Retards don't understand what it means to be visible to the shooter edition.

>>53685488

They haven't realized conscripts can only see through their own 50 man blob and not the other 450 guys

>>53685450
Coldstar can advance 40 inches turn one.

Why does GW refuse to give ard armor to flash gits? Why does GW hate one of the most theoretically popular ork units?

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>>53685467

They're Space Conquistadors you ignorant gringo

My friend has 37 cultists he wants to get rid of for like $45. Should I take him up on it?

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Reminder that the Dakkajet Fleet is the only counter to the Conscript meme.

>>53685450
><GUILLIMAN RUMORED TO BE MAKING A PACT WITH THIS GUY EDITION
wait what?

What did I miss?

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>Magnus first
>then guillman
>then mortarion
>then the lion

think we'll get angron or fulgrim as the next daemon primarch?

>>53685543

Nothing, it isn't happening.

>>53685529

I know but that wouldn't have pissed as many people off.

>>53685536

Pretty good price

Proxy as conscripts

>>53685529
Gringo means white you idiot.

And fuck you, I like space latinos. Space spanish are boring because the spanish are fucking boring.

>>53685554

Probably Fulgrim. Honestly, Fulgrim should have been after Bobby out of principle

>>53685536
Dew it

>>53685554
>Magnus first
>then guillman
>then mortarion
>then Puretide

I agree.

>>53685507
>he still thinks anyone taking conscripts cares if they even shoot once all game
Man you are going to be really distraught when you see how the real lists actually play and not the WUN THOUSAND CONSCRIPTS meme you're fighting in your head.

Excel-anon here, did a bit more work on the Tau data-calculations: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing

I revamped the Crisis/Commander section, and have added sections for Riptide, Broadside, and Hammerhead.

I'm a bit concerned by the Commander vs Crisis numbers. 30pts to for +2 BS and an extra hardpoint is just too good. Commanders are more efficient essentially across the board in terms of raw wounds-per-point. They have the downside of being a single target so large-wound weapons can potentially do more damage, but they can also hide. I think GW may have went a bit overboard on how expensive Crisis bodies are this edition.

Guilleman in a pact with Khorne? I need explanations

>>53685582
I'm curious as to whether or not we'll actually get slaaneshi stuff again.

Though I'd love actual castings of ECs

Reminder that without a commissar conscripts are literally grots.

>>53685503
The only way to determine is to "stoop down and get a look from behind the shooting model to see if any part of the target is visible" so no, infantry can't shoot units they're not facing.

>>53685554
Hopefully Lorgar

Its way past time the autist came out of his neet-cave.

>>53685576
>Gringo means white you idiot.

Gringo is a slur/slang for American, not white american.

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>>53685615

Girlyman isn't in a pact with Khorne. It's a literal "well just a rumor I heard but" thing. Please do not panic.

>>53685603
Man, I was just looking at that when it updated and scared me.

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>>53685554
> Mfw Dubs will hide Sangy for as long as they can.

Am I right in thinking that Bloodcrushers are amazing now? They seem really durable and dangerous for their points

>>53685614
>thinking we're going to see a non-god-aligned Primarch before Angron and Fulgrim
>if we even see them fucking at all
If we do get non-god Daemon Primarchs I hope they do Perturabo before Lorgar.

How do we know Lionel Johnson will be the next Imperium primarch?

>>53685634
Chicanos are still fucking gringos despite their retarded need for identity.

Besides that definition merely excludes chicanos, nowhere does it specify 'white american'.

>>53685640
Actively under development, and all that.

I think I'm leaving the commander/crisis suit-section at that for now. I'll probably add stats for Vespids, Stealth Suits and Ghostkeels, then move onto the Blood Angels like requested in one of the earlier threads.

>>53685666
We don't know for sure, but if you're betting it's going to be anyone else you're not a smart betting man.

>>53685606
>>53685555
>>53685543

The supposed rumor is Rowboat made/is going to make a pact with Khorne in 8e to help deal with Orks currently stompin' around on Armageddon/Armageddon sector. And since there's already a Blood Crusade headed that way (plus the fact the Orks are getting bigger and harder to kill on Armageddon right now), it's certainly plausible.

Only problem I have with the rumor is that Blood Crusade's almost certainly led by Angron himself (he's still sore after losing the first Armageddon War after all), and last I checked, he HATES Guilliman more than he does a bunch of damn xenos.

Maybe in 9th edition devil dogs won't be complete garbage...

>>53685614
Dubs will release the primarch 4 Gods first, and in turn 4 Primarch of the big 4 Chapters.

>>53685680

But Armageddon is already a half-daemon world with Khorne vs Tzeentch. Angron being summoned was even foiled.

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>>53685467
>First for Space Spics.

nth for Space Niggers

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>>53685651
>Not even a real boy
>Still gets a model before Sanguinus

>>53685603
>>53685674
Are there any other crisis/commander loadouts people would like to see added, before I move on to other units?

Remember fags, just play the army you like and the play it the way you want to, ignore WAACniggers

>>53685576
>>53685615
>>53685634
>>53685669

G-guys, I just threw "gringo" in there because I don't know what casual insults Spaniards use...

>>53685576

M8 they're all basically the same.

I prefer to think of CF as (greatest ally) Portugal.

Can vehicles shoot targets behind them? Can infantry?

>>53685742
Yes, there are no facing rules.

>>53685654
Yea I would like Perturabo also but Lorgar would work in fluff as a counterpart to Girlyman.

Not to mention having him screaming about how he was right all along about the Emperor to Girlyman would be neat.

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>>53685722
FW must really like Harambe.

>>53685702
>But Armageddon is already a half-daemon world with Khorne vs Tzeentch. Angron being summoned was even foiled.
... Did I miss a new piece of lore or something?

Last I checked Armageddon s still in the middle of the 3rd Armaggedon War (now 3.5 with the return of the Khorne guys).

When (and why, for the matter) the hell did Tzeentch show up? Last I checked the only god entities that really gave a shit about Armageddon/Ullanor were the four 'war gods' (Emps, Gork, Mork, Khorne).

>>53685722

Can't wait to get this model and headswap it for a helmet. I've lusted after his suit of Tartaros ever since his sneak peek banner reveal. Hope the ravens won't be too obvious in gold, or easy to file off.

>>53685685
Maybe my dad will tell me he loves me someday

>>53685752

DICKS OUT FOR GABRIEL

>>53685751
>tfw we will never get anything about the objectively most superior primarch, Alpharius
why live

>>53685768
>headswap it for a helmet
Beaky?

>Magnus, check
>Guilliman, check
>Mortarion, +new Typhus and GUO models
>Lion, +new DA special character models
>Fulgrim, +new Emperor's Children release, Lucius, KOS models
>Russ, +new wolfwolfs
>Angron, +new World Eaters and Khorne Daemon models (new Skarbrand? Ka'bhanda?)
>Avatar of Sanguinius, +new Mephiston and some other shit

This will be the first 8 Primarchs and accompanying releases. I expect some xenos releases in between as well.

>>53685685
Maybe as soon as the actual Codex.

10 Firewarriors-80 points
Devilfish- 127 points
10 Firewarriors-80 points
Devilfish- 127 points
Cadre Fireblade- 42
15 Kroot Carnivores- 60
Hammerhead with Railgun and SMS- 195
3 Crisis Suits (2 plasma rifle)- 192
3 Crisis Suits (2 fusion blasters)- 252
4 Gun Drones- 32
4 Gun drones- 32
4 Marker Drones- 42 points
4 Marker Drones- 42 points
4 Marker Drones- 42 points
Commander with Plasma Rifle and Drone controller- 92 points
3 Stealth Suits with Burstcanons +2 gun drones- 106 points
3 Stealth Suits with Burstcanons +2 gun drones- 106 points
Ghostkeel with Cyclic Ion Raker, 2 Fusion blasters, Shield Generator, and 2 Stealth Drones- 191 points
Commandar in Coldstar battlesuit with High Output Burst Canon and Missile Pod +2 shield drones- 156 points

Total 1996

Who else here is hyped to play 8th when it drops? Str 5 across the board seems like it's going to be super good feeling, and I'm glad I can finally whip out my coldstar now that I don't have to memorize 3 pages of rules to do so

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>>53685809
>Avatar of Sanguinius, +new Mephiston and some other shit
I fucking hope it's not Sanguinor, shit would be boring if it's true.

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>>53685809
>mfw still no playable vect/malys model
WHY CAN'T WE HAVE A CHARACTER ARCHON REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>53685825
Don't leave hardpoints empty on your crisis and commander (max 3 on crisis, 4 on commander). Their bodies are very expensive, and it's very cost-effective to load up a smaller number of suits.

Relevant calculations here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing

>>53685751
>Not to mention having him screaming about how he was right all along about the Emperor to Girlyman would be neat.
>implying Girlyman isn't already having headaches because Magnus is using his psyker abilities to scream just that inside Rowboat's head 24/7 despite being stuck in the webway

>>53685832
More like
>WHY CAN'T OUR CHARACTER HAVE JETBIKES OR SKY BOARDS REEEEE

>>53685784
It'd be Omegon at best. Dorn crushed Alpharius' head so hard Omegon could feel it halfway across the galaxy.

Related, I'd love to see a Dorn model. Just for the sake of GW making one before Forge World does. The 30k tears would be delicious.

>>53685830
Just spitballing here but I would envision something that sort of falls between the Sanguinor, Celestine, and the Yncarne.

>>53685825

Commander on drone duty seems kinda lame

Now that 8th is set 100 years after the "present," how are they going to explain how some of the Tau and Guard characters are still around, or why the surviving Orks characters haven't reached Primork levels from a century of straight WAAAAGH or how the tyranids haven't developed anything new?

>>53685867
Did the Sanguinor even show up on Baal?

So, aside from Ferrus, who is THE most useless out of all the Primarchs these days?

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>>53685722
Generic stealth commander with <sept> pls.

>>53685846
Interesting, I never got around to magnetizing a third points for weapons but I guess I ought to get around to it
>>53685869
I just wasn't sure what else to do with him, 2+ to hit drone swarm that makes him much tougher to kill seemed neat though, never ran buffmanders in 7

>>53685889
Purterabo

>>53685889
Lorgar hasn't left his Neet cave in over 10000 years

>>53685884

Farsight is basically immortal because he slaughtered hoards of enemies with a spooky lifestealing blade he found on a spooky demonic world that he figured eh might as well use it.

Shadowsun is probably lost in the warp so no aging there.
Other than that, who cares.

>>53685855
THAT FUCKING TOO
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>53685887
He did, when the NPC races spilled on Baal. No idea where he went after that.

Battle forged +3 CP
Vanguard detachment +1 CP
Super Heavy detachment +0 CP

HQ (231)
Tank commander
Demolisher cannon
Heavy bolter (3)

Elites - (288)

Veterans (10) 96
meltagun (3)

Veterans (10) 96
meltagun (3)

Veterans (10) 96
meltagun (3)

Fast (352)

Armored sentinels (2) 120pt
Lascannon (2)

Hell hound squadron (2) 180pt
heavy flamer (2)
Inferno cannon (2)

Rough riders (5) 52
Power lance
hunting lance (4)

Heavy (356)
Leman Russ Squadron (2)

Punisher gatling cannon 20
Heavy bolter (3)

Executioner plasma cannon (20)
lascannon
Plasma cannon (2)

Transport

Chimera (3) 276
Heavy flamer
Multi laser

-

Super Heavy detachment +1 CP

Shadowsword 498
lascannon (2)
twin heavy bolter (2)

Total 2001

>>53685884
Who cares, just play your dudes anon.

>>53685884
They won't. They'll treat the timeskip the same way they did Age of Sigmar's. new characters will come out, new kits will be made, but old generic models will still have a use. Old character models will exist only as legacy options.

This excludes certain options that are some breed of immortal, like Archaon in AoS. They'll still exist in the plot, and may even get updated models ($40 for one model, I'm sure) you can pick up.

>>53685889
Mortarion, hes literally jobbing to Guilliman while being told directly to his face by typhus that he is jobbing and giving the 40k equivalent of batman ridiculous amounts of prep time.
At this point I don't think Morty is capable of doing anything but jobbing

>>53685896
DC adds one to hit rolls, it no longer gives drone the user's BS

>>53685450
Are the older editions(3th, 4th, 5th and 6th ed) codex and rulebooks still in the mega? Or are they lost forever?

>>53685884
T'au characters went through the warp rift as part of the 4th Sphere Expansion, time got all fucky for them.

Humans have plenty of technological ways to slow and counter aging, so Guard don't need to worry too much probably. Either that or they'll start squatting a bunch of the characters with the new Codex.

It takes longer than a century for Orks to hit Primork tier.

Tyranids will have a whole new posterboy Hive Fleet with their next Codex instead of Leviathan, and it will absolutely have new developments.

>>53685889
I'm going to go with Dorn. If he's alive, he's keeping quiet, and has been for 10k+ years. If he's dead, that's pretty goddamn useless.

>>53685749
But what's behind something cannot be visible to it.

>>53685884

Important human characters can get juve treatments and live for 500+ years

This includes any inquisitor and then more important IG characters

Mechanicus guys are basically biologically immortal anyway

Space marines can go thousands of years

Who else are we worried about?

Yeah sly marbo probably retired, had muscular children with an amazon and died peacefully

>>53685924
Lose a point. No more of this 2001 bullshit when granularity is actually being used to the fullest.

>>53685904
The chaos gods fucked up by giving him an unlimited supply of tendies and mountain dew. Guy's never gonna leave his cave now.

>>53685529
>T.butthurt unrepresented Spaniard
Nobody cares about your country, spics are less cancerous than Spaniards.

Question: the fliers rules typically say that you can pivot up to 90 degrees when you move, and if fliers go off the board or cannot complete their minimum movement the unit is killed. However, now that anything can charge and turning the model doesn't take movement, can you use a charge as an opportunity to pivot a flier so that it can effectively turn more than 90 degrees each turn?

>>53685889
I don't understand the logic of the Primarchs that still alive, they just fuck off into some shithole for 10k years instead of stay and lead the Imperium.

>>53685981
Airborne models cannot charge.

>>53685855

I feel like you would be able to make a hoverboard out of the Reaver's front plate, or two smaller hoverboard looking bits glued to the bottom of each foot and connected in the middle with a rod.

>>53685981

If you're a sleezy WAAC faggot sure

>>53685987
ah, missed that, thanks.

>>53685923
Did Guilliman see the Sanguinor? I know we didn't get more than a paragraph but it'd be cool to know.

>>53686010
By the time Guilliman arrives, he's already gone. There is no metioning of him.

>>53685960
There are no rules about where on a model that model draws LoS from. So long as there is a clear path between a model and a target then one can just assume the models just turn their heads or someone looks out the viewport of their tank.

>>53685614
>Lorgar
Daemon PRINCES anon, Lorgar was turned into a giant chaos spawn that the world bearers hide from every other legion and loyalist to hide their shame.

>>53685924
As a word of advice, a lot of people won't comment on your list because it's hard, at first glance, to understand a list's inner workings. And if you don't understand how it's supposed to play, why comment on it? People just don't want to put that much work in, especially if that's not their faction.

I, for instance, don't touch Guard. I have no clue if your list is good or not. I do, however, have a necron list I'm looking for advice on. Look at my list, and try to figure out if and how your list would beat mine, given the chance to go first.

Catacomb Command Barge w/ Gauss Cannon + Warscythe: 169
Cryptek w/ Staff of Light: 104

Triarch Stalker w/ Twin Gauss Cannon: 181

20 Warriors: 240
20 Warriors: 240
10 Immortals w/ Gauss: 170
10 Immortals w/ Tesla: 170

Annihilation Barge w/ Tesla Cannon: 146
Annihilation Barge w/ Tesla Cannon: 146
Doomsday Ark: 203

Doom Scythe: 220

1989

>>53685989

That's great and all, but Deldar literally don't have the option in the rules to take jetbikes or sky boards in our HQs because reasons. The only one who did was removed in 6th edition for not having a model.

>space marines get Guilliman and primaris marines
>chaos gets daemon primarchs and new legion models
>eldar got the ynnari
>Orks probably getting ironjawz style line and beast Ghaz
>tau getting new suits
>Necrons probably getting Silent King and a couple new characters

What can we expect from the tyranids?

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>>53685967
>Enter Sly Marbo's son:
>Cunning Conan

>>53686063
Bigger bugs? That's usually what Nids end up getting.

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>>53686061
I kitbashed my archon to have scourge wings...now if only they give them rules for actual improved wargear.

Are Darklances even more pointless than they were last edition? My older brother has a thing for them but was always complaining about how they were just lascanons but worse

>>53686063

tau get enclaves hopefully as more of a standalone faction

>>53686045
what does visible mean
if a straight line can be drawn between your ass and the enemy, is it visible

>>53686061
>The one who did
We've never had one. The Baron was a hellion Kingpin.

>>53686010
We got the sidebar version missing tons of details, we only know the bare bones of the story but everyone likes to act like that's the full thin and they'd really reduce such an important battle to a few paragraphs and never elaborate on it

>>53686076
Enclaves take the Sept spot, and we've already been told we're getting subfaction-specific stratagems. I expect FSE to be treated the way T'au or Vior'la are.

>>53686074
>are one of the best weapons in the game bad

>>53686063
A fucking FUCKHUGE bug that can fight Imperial Knights and Wraithknights on even footing.

In fact it'll probably be a dual-kit.

>>53686084
Baron was on a sky board was he not?

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>>53685752
>>53685722
You have an odd way of spelling Jean Pierre Polnareff.

>>53686095

Those already exist. Not to mention Tyranids are more likely to send multiple smaller bugs than go 1v1. They're not as stupid as the Tau

>>53686101
Oh, durr. Yes, he was, of course. I thought the statement was "The only [archon] who did..." not [HQ]. My mistake.

>>53686110
They only exist through Forge World. Nids right now are the only Faction that cannot get a Lord of War without using GSC to ally in a Baneblade. Expect one for them.

>>53685973
I bet he browses the the interwarp and complains that Guilliman is a chad

>>53685784
>most superior
>a manlet

>What do you think Lorgar is doing in his pyramid
>He must be meditating on such deep thoughts
*Muffled FUCK YOU DAD I WAS RIIIIIGHT in the distance*

>>53685973
>>53686137
I have no idea why imagining that is making me laugh so hard.

>>53686082
Exactly, there is functionally no difference between front and back of a model currently. So long as there is no obstruction between one model or another it's considered visible.

Does it make sense? Probably not, but unless there is something in the rules explicitly stating a model behind another model is not in LoS then it only needs to be somewhere that it can be seen by the model. Again, infantry can look behind them and tanks have viewports so anything that can be seen by the model is visible.

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>>53686137
>>53685973
> Tfw Lorgar's daemon form is a literally neckbeard.

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REAL SCALE GUARDS AND GUARDS' VEHICLES WHEN???

>>53685884
>Now that 8th is set 100 years after the "present," how are they going to explain how some of the Tau and Guard characters are still around, or why the surviving Orks characters haven't reached Primork levels from a century of straight WAAAAGH or how the tyranids haven't developed anything new?
>Tau
Aside from Farsight, Warp time-fuckery I guess?
>Guard
Considering Commissar Yarrick's already old as fuck and living off juve treatments.
>>53685967
>Yeah sly marbo probably retired, had muscular children with an amazon and died peacefully
>implying he's not out there killing shit alongside said badass children and amazon wife

>>53685955
>Tyranids will have a whole new posterboy Hive Fleet with their next Codex instead of Leviathan, and it will absolutely have new developments.
In other words, Hive Fleet Leviathan's going to die off because they decided to fight Baal and the Ork Octarius Empire at the same time?

When you add in the fact Swarmlord got killed by a thousands of angry mushrooms with fuckhuge hatchets.... Nids are the ultimate jobbing race confirmed?

>>53686092

Eh, not too sure.
Enclaves is way more significant than some single liner sept world tabletop fluff wise

>>53686201
probably never

>>53686204
Daily reminder that orks are not mushrooms, have never been mushrooms and no matter how mad it makes you they will never be mushrooms.

>>53686201
Forgeworld Guard are a lot closer.

>Sister Retributor Superiors have 7 leadership instead of 8.
>Celestine isn't unique.
>Celestine can't shunt wounds anymore (if she has a single wound on her, ALL wounds must be allocated to her, which will happen after both bodyguards die, even after they come back)
>Celestine's bodyguards have the 'Celestine' tag (does this even do anything?)
>Hospitallers can't heal anyone who isn't a Sororitas, including priests and other non-Sororitas Adeptus Ministorum units (1/3rd of the units) despite fluff where they even get shipped to help IG sometimes.
>The Canoness's aura does not affect non-Sororias. Same for Dialogus. Only priests buff both sides of the army.
>Penitent Engines are no longer Sorortias. They also no longer have Shield of Faith (though they have Zealot instead).
>Shield of Faith doesn't work almost at all, when used to deny the witch.
>Crusaders have Acts of Faith now for some reason, while no other non-Sororitas Adeptus Ministorum units do. Also they have Shield of Faith while priests don't?
>Seraphim Superiors specifically can take plasma pistols, but not inferno pistols.

How many of these are intentional? How many will be changed? And why would they split an existing army into two halves and then call it one army?

>>53686134

The Trygon and winged Hive Tyrant used to be FW only too.

>>53686238
who cares shitsters of basshole are fucking retarded, the less support they get the better

>>53686233
I know I have some dkok but I want those sweet real scale lemans
>>53686218
RREEEEEEEEEEEE

>>53686239
Exactly. That supports my argument, GW will release a superheavy Tyranid Lord of War. It may be a new plastic version of something Forge World already did just like the Trygon, or it may be something new, but either way, that's what we're going to get with the next Codex as our centerpiece new model release.

>>53686255

Marines don't have non-FW superheavy LoW

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>>53686137
>>53686193
Lets be honest here, the Emperor is no god and Girlyman is a faggot.

I bet the elf hes fucking (which is a huge heresy mind you) is a goddamn dude.

>>53686204
>When you add in the fact Swarmlord got killed by a thousands of angry mushrooms with fuckhuge hatchets.... Nids are the ultimate jobbing race confirmed?

For one, you're still spewing this shit even though there's ZERO evidence for it. Second, I see you still have no idea what jobbing is and think jobbing=losing.
For as much as you love to push the Tyranids are jobbers meme, it will never cover up the fact that Chaos are by far the biggest jobbers in the setting

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>>53686063
Really hoping Necrons finally get their big units.

How did every faction other than than robot faction, get a giant robot?

>>53686268
Pretty sure guilliman is superheavy infantry.

>>53686268
Faction Keyword Imperium has Imperial Knights.

Faction Keyword Chaos has multiple options, Renegade Knights and Lord of Skulls.

Faction Keyword Necrons has the Obelisk and Tesseract Vault.

Faction Keyword Aeldari has the Wraithknight.

Faction Keyword Orks has the Stompa.

Faction Keyword T'au has the Stormsurge.

The only remaining Faction Keyword that doesn't fall under a larger umbrella is Tyranids.

>>53686271
Hello Lorgar! Go back to blacked.com

>>53686288
>why don't necron have any big robots????????
THE MONOLITH

>>53686280
Don't engage him, it's never worth it. Just let the one autist hate Tyranids, he'll never admit he's wrong.

Any preferences for arming Tzaangors?

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>>53686310
>pyramid
>a giant robot

>>53685884
Aun'va isn't even ambiguous, he was straight up murdered, but he's still playable. They don't have to explain shit.

>>53685538
Can confirm. It shreds them like mincemeat.

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>>53686294
The only thing superheavy about guilliman is the load of his boyfriends spunk in his ass.

You are right though

>>53686238

You have to understand that sisters are literally a shitty copy paste of a copy paste of a copy paste of a copy paste of a. Cross reference to a shitty paste in a white dwarf article. GW doesn't even try when it comes to sisters.

>>53686222
>Daily reminder that orks are not mushrooms, have never been mushrooms and no matter how mad it makes you they will never be mushrooms.
>telling an Ork player this
Zog me mate, it's a bloody joke.

Can genestealers infect marines? Or just plebs?

>>53686314
it's a giant robot pyramid, it is living metal so its somewhat alive.

>>53686247
You could have at least tried.

Does GW actually sell any biker HQ models or do you need to kitbash it?

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>tfw I can summon half of my entire army behind the enemy and then bumrush his special characters with pissed off daemons

>>53686333
Yes they can infect marines which really makes no sense

>>53686344
For Orks that it

>>53686238
>Celestine can't shunt wounds anymore
She gets a free, guaranteed AoF every turn which includes shunting D3 wounds, returning a second gemini, or doing any of the other AoF for herself or another unit within 6".

>>53686357
There's that one Dark Angels guy but that's a jetbike.

>>53686333
Theoretically they can infect marines but it will never amount to anything, Marines are regularly given super in-depth medical check-ups and psychic screening by the Apothecaries and Librarians, and I believe they have ways (probably very time-consuming, expensive, and painful, and would kill a regular human) to cleanse the infection. Also since Space Marines cannot reproduce it would never bare hybrid fruit anyways.

Aeldari are very rarely infected for similar reasons.

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>>53686344

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-FI/Ork-Warboss-on-Bike

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>>53686349
>*teleports behind u*
>nothin personnel kid

>>53686375
I'm gonna have to seriously fight the urge to just say it every game.

>>53686297
>Faction Keyword

Don't give me that bullshit, an Imperial Knight isn't a Space Marine. Ultramarines falls under the Adeptus Astartes keyword anyway faggot. You might as well say Tyranids falls under Xenos so you already have one.

>>53686365
>>53686354
Have there ever been any models of this?

>>53686294
>>53686325

Guilliman is/was a MC and isn't Titanic

>>53686391
You have the dreadknight :^)

>>53686238
Just the first two seem like mistakes.

Celestine has acess to the healing act, and thats just normal wound allocation. Plus she still has intervention. The 7th ed. unkillable Celestine was probably a bad idea.

Faction based abilities are often pretty restrictive. Seems normal.

Isnt one of the Penitent engine pilots a dude? I think they were technically ministorum back in Witch Hunters.

Crusaders with Acts is fluffy, so whatever. AM grabs their priests from the same entry, so makes sense why they'd leave it off to me.

Plasma pistol is on the old metal Seraphim Superior model.

>>53686391
A space marine army is legally allowed to take a Superheavy Detachment with a Knight in it. A Tyranid army is not allowed to take a Superheavy Detachment with a Wraithknight in it.

>>53686326
I figured as much last edition when their most used infantry unit (command squads) was a legit fucking accident that was never fixed and then they forgot what role it was for Castellans and never fixed that either.

But still.

>>53686391
Space Marines fall under the Imperial AND Adeptus Astartes keyword.

>>53686159
The difference is you see with your eyes for things to be visible. In this case, the model's eyes. Unless it has eyes on the back of its head, it can't see behind it.

>>53686368
No wonder I couldn't find it on the GW website

>>53686406

Not a Lord of War. Not a superheavy.

>>53686311
but if nobody ever tells him he's wrong, he'll start to believe he is right and has convinced some people here. He'll then be able to expand on this silly meme theory of his, and spout even more bullshit. Furthermore, newfags will see that there is no resistance against those ideas, and will think it's true - meaning there wi be even more stupids in the thread than before.
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Not saying the guy is particularly evil, nor that I am good in anyway since this is autism of the highest degree, but you got the idea right.

>>53686391
Xenos isn't a Faction Keyword you idiot.

There are seven at the top of the tree. Imperium is one of them. Those are the overarching Factions now. As Adeptus Astartes, you are a mere sub-faction now, and not every sub-faction needs its own LoW.

>>53685554
trips and my man corvus corax is next singles or dubs hes still next, deal with it

>>53686333
A Word Bearer is infected in Dark Disciple but he's executed soon after.

I think it layed eggs in his throat or chest.

>>53686411

A Tyranid army is legally allowed to take a Superheavy Detachment with a Shadowsword in it.

>>53686396
No.

>>53686271
>>53686193
>>53686151
>Dad is mean to me and favours my Chad brother
>Dad is millitant atheist
>Let's my Brother smash my cool church
>Friends tell me to about the true gods
>Tell me if I worship them I can get revenge on the normies and Chad brother
>Sort of succeed
>Get turned into a gaint demon
>Can manipulate the world around me
>Use this to get unlimited tendies and dew
>Spend all eternity shit posting on the interwarp

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>>53686418
The definition of visible is literally just "can be seen". A guy standing behind you in an open field is visible from where you are standing because he can be seen if you turn around.
A model can see behind it, because it can turn around.

>>53686428

By that logic, not every faction needs its own LoW.

>>53686436
They don't lay eggs, they plant a sort of tumour that rewrites your whole bodies genetic code with a retro-virus. Space Marine geneseed can probably allow them to recover if the initial infection is removed.

>>53686159
Most vehicle viewports don't provide 360 angles. Can a model see through its gun?

>>53686428
>>53686297
>GSC LORDS OF WAR DON'T COUNT WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>FORGE WORLD *********TYRANID****** LORDS OF WAR DON'T COUNT WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>NO SPACE MARINES ONES COUNT BECAUSE THEY'RE FROM OTHER IMPERIAL ARMIES NO! NO! THEY COUNT!

Just like to remind all the newfags here that these Tyranidfags were literally this whiny, every day, for years during 6E and 7E.

>>53686452
They don't necessarily, but considering six of them out of seven have one, it's a very safe bet the next release for the last faction will include a Lord of War.

>>53685652
not sure, but when i get around to playing a game with them in 8th i'll be sure to post about it here. shame skulltaker left his 'crusher in 7th (oddly he also lost his option to take a chariot for the 6th codex)

>>53686411
Well you are legally allowed to take a baneblade. Just take a Patriarch and Genestealers as your GSC. Costs you two detachments though. Modeling a Tyranid "counts as" Shadowsword could be fun.

>>53686466

Tyranids have one you're just a faggot. In fact, they have multiple. More than most factions.

>>53686423
You just need to create a hilarious mspaint scenario composed of 3-4 panels showing how autistic he is, and just use that to respond to his idiocy

>>53686465
The fuck are you talking about, no one here is whining. I'm just extrapolating from the current model catalogue what GW's probable plans are for the next Tyranid model release, because someone asked what they thought nids would be getting down the line. You are such a dumb melodramatic faggot.

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>>53686402
Literally look at the rules idiot.

>>53686418
Models are just representations and not physical entities in current 40k. In very early editions, infantry had a 90 degree cone of vision in front of them (front meaning where their guns were pointed, iirc, or maybe it was their eyes. I forget.). This is no longer the case as they assumed infantry was mobile enough to look and turn freely in response to things, and now with 8th they carried that over to vehicles as well, making the entire game a representation - markers of where units are, not units themselves.

>>53686280
>ZERO evidence for it.
First wave of Nids on Octaria were wiped out as per lore in Waaagh! Ghazzy supplement (Leviathan threw several more tendrils at it afterwards). Swarmy was on the planet in the first wave as stated in 5e Nid codex.

Therefore, Swarmlord died to Orks on Octaria.

There's your evidence anon. It's been brought up before.

>>53686311
>implying I hate nids
Bloody hell, you nid players are as pissy as DAfags.

You're almost as bad as the Chaos players and their 'Chaos will always win in the end' nonsense.

>>53686451
How does that equate to LOS is drawn from any point on the model? Can it use its arm to see the enemy?

>>53686288
So many things that would be cool to see as a giant unit for Necrons, whether it be a larger C'tan, something like that merged ton of bodies creating a giant Necron in the World Engine, or something else.

>>53686428
>Xenos isn't a Faction Keyword you idiot.
Oddly enough, it is. For Inquisitors.

>>53686485
So you can hide a vehicle in cover and shoot out of its ass so that it'll be 50% obscured when it's shot at?

Should I build a Shadowsword or a Stormlord?

>>53686486
Sorry I thought you were Carnac. He fucking spergs out at every opportunity about nids exactly because of that chaosfag shit you mentioned. Carry on.

>>53686408
Celestine is arguably harder to kill now though, due to the automatic optional self heal. In fact if you heal all of her wounds you can start allocating them to her bodyguards instead again, which is just weird.

And I just think it's poor design to have a faction where only 2/3rds of them actually interact with or benefit from their faction's leader auras and faction abilities. It's arbitrary as fuck. Just make them two different factions who can ally instead, since that's what they're doing. Except that takes away SoB's only walker since they changed it's identity.

>>53686511
Yup.

>>53686511
Yes. With all its weapons, unless it has a rule that says otherwise.

>>53686486
It's called Entropy. Deal with it.

>>53686511
the idea is like other anon said, its a representation of where it is not the unit itself so if it was 100% realistic the vehicle would pop out of cover, shoot and go back into cover and the 50% bonus comes from whether they were able to hit the vehicle when it popped out or whatever.

>>53686503
That's 'Ordo Xenos'.

>>53686517
>And I just think it's poor design to have a faction where only 2/3rds of them actually interact with or benefit from their faction's leader auras and faction abilities.
Count yourself lucky it's not 1/3 like deldar. We are officially <Kabal>, <Cult>, and <Coven>, and fuck you if you want that haemonculus to benefit your kabalits.

>>53686464
There are no set view points on any model. Without any one could argue that tanks can't even see out of their front. Most vehicles have hatches too, there are ways to see behind them.

>>53686488
Personally I'd say draw LoS from the head of a model or the weapon firing but GW will probably need to clarify. Say what you will about 7th but at least GW included a section on "models eye view".

>>53686541
<Ordo> is replaced by Xenos.

>>53685512
and still fire its weapons.

without penalty if equiped with the proper wargear or markerlight support.

>>53686563
It's replaced by Ordo Xenos.

See: There are models with Ordo Malleus and Ordo Hereticus.

Has anyone done an edit to the "I lived bitch." meme where it's Big G sending a pic to Fulgrim?

>>53686563
<Wu Tang Clan>

>>53686593
Fuck the Wu Tang Clan

>>53686470
>Modeling a Tyranid "counts as" Shadowsword could be fun.
Under the old rules this would have hurt my autism something fierce, but now that everything has Toughness and Wounds and can charge and so on, I'm actually not too opposed to this.

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>>53686321
Quad gun fuck you, hell hounds, and aegis line.GTFO Orks.

>>53686615
wu tang aint nothing to fuck with

Razorwing Jetfighter is $69 dollarydoos, Voidraven Bomber is $115.

Both looking awesome, but is the performance of the bomber worth the extra $45

>>53686545

I'm actually thinking about Wracks for Hexrifles, but idk if that's worth it. You can fit 3 in a raider if you take an undersized unit with a Haemy, but how much damage will you actually do to a character?

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>>53686593

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So how many Imperial lives did Abbadon condemn to a hell dimension by giving the milkyway supernatural space-cancer?
Can the Tyranid hive mind even compete at this point?

>>53686652
I'm bitter about wracks and haemonculus' being the only things with access to the hexrifle.

Their look doesn't fit what I want, but how else to deal with characters properly?

>>53686517
>Just make them two different factions who can ally instead
That's literally what's going on. All Imperium units can ally even within the same detachments because they share a keyword. Inquisitors are drawing their retinue from the same AM that guard is taking their priests from. The big thing is that SoB are a subfaction of the AM, so they are included with it, but since only sororitas train with canonesses, sororitas benefit from them. This is also true with succubi and cults, Apothecaries with marines, etc.

Person, I think the greatest crime are the units that specify they only benefit their own chosen Order, Chapter, Regiment, etc. Why isn't the OML Canoness inspiring the beleaguered BR sisters they came to relieve? Why aren't Scrubworld #8505 guardsmen listening to the much admired and universally respected Castellan motherfucking Creed? Why aren't other wych cults or kabalites working with THE Lelith Hesperex jizzing their pants every time they realize they're in close and killing the same guy with her? Why does only the Cult of Strife get self-creaming privileges including that Voidraven that didn't even really see her because he's going supersonic speeds?

>>53686685
>Person, I think the greatest crime are the units that specify they only benefit their own chosen Order, Chapter, Regiment, etc. Why isn't the OML Canoness inspiring the beleaguered BR sisters they came to relieve? Why aren't Scrubworld #8505 guardsmen listening to the much admired and universally respected Castellan motherfucking Creed? Why aren't other wych cults or kabalites working with THE Lelith Hesperex jizzing their pants every time they realize they're in close and killing the same guy with her? Why does only the Cult of Strife get self-creaming privileges including that Voidraven that didn't even really see her because he's going supersonic speeds?
Balance purposes for matched play. You can always houserule it otherwise in narrative games. Personally I would like more tournaments to just straight up ban named characters in the first place like back in 3rd edition.

>>53685538
>Bring the Dakkajet Fleet
>They auto kill themselves T1 against conscripts due to being unable to place themselves on the board after their first move

>>53686685

There's no point in using the Scrubworld #8505 keyword because it offers zero benefits. If you're going to be led by Creed, take Creed's fucking keyword.

>>53686661

>Giant blotch
>Fails to cover a single relevant planet
good work

>>53686715
That's what I'm saying.

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>>53686288
Why they couldn't do something like this for Necrons makes me both angry and sad

>>53686684
It's always been that way, m8. They made the thing and love to horde it away from competitors. Technically the only faction to even have access to it is the The Hex and not the other covens.

Fluffwise that is.

>>53686652
>3 sniper rifles
You're much better off allying in mercenary Rangers, who are basically <Unaligned> in terms of eldar fluff anyways. Unless you really like the idea of a Haemonculi sniper raider, I guess.

>>53686643

Where are you buying them for that? Australia? Cause its $45 and $80 in burgerland.

As for performance, a Razorwing with Dissy canons can do a lot of anti infantry damage between those, the necro toxin missile and the splinter cannon. Meanwhile the Raven can fuck up heavy targets with its void lances and missiles, plus the bomb for some mortal wounds.

>>53686684
Solitaire is an option.

>>53686685
All that makes sense, but it doesn't make it any less strange and annoying that my priests can yell at my dialogus to inspire her but when she yells back he just ignores her.

>>53686726

Fucking lold

>>53686516
>Sorry I thought you were Carnac. He fucking spergs out at every opportunity about nids exactly because of that chaosfag shit you mentioned. Carry on
No problem mate. Seems he just showed up like the sperg he is.
>>53686523
>It's called Entropy. Deal with it.
Oh, I'm going to LOVE this bullshit explanation.

>>53686722
what about Catachans for instance, who can't change their keyword?

>>53686726
Kek

>>53686744

>you might as well not even play dark eldar xDd

Kill yourself

>>53686761
I'll let a bard explain it for me in terms you can understand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bueZoYhUlg

>>53686762
>Catachans
>the faction known for killing its commanders
>WHY AREN'T THEY LISTENING TO OUTSIDERS' ORDERS

If you want to play special snowflake jungle rambos, you take their good and band, faggot. GW could have made whoever you're whining about affect all IG and not just specific regiments, but they didn't, and they did that for a reason.

>>53686762
Catachan's being unimpressed with anyone who isn't a Catachan is fluffy, though.

>>53686746
Yeah, Aus.
I'm not about to run out and buy either, as I've got other stuff to get first, anyway. Just looking ahead.

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>>53686722
That's my criticism. For Lelith especially, Strive is the only named cult anyways so there's is zero (0) reason to name another cult anyways, even if you're fluffing otherwise. To me, it's a really baffling and self-defeating restriction on the "creative hobby" part of 40k.

And IG's "Mixed Regiment" army idea is really freaking butchered by it.

>>53686744
Fluff-wise Lelith Hesperax shouldn't be using combat drugs, but here we are.

>>53686769
>Why can't my faction that never takes snipers take snipers? Fuck you, dad!
Alright, champ.

>>53686792
cry about it retard if you don't like the rules play every single other game mode that allows you to do whatever you want

So I have the Dark Vengeance starter set along with a Khorne Berserkers squad, Kharn and a Space Marines Dreadnought that I painted in Dark Angel colors, and I'm unsure on which of these two factions to focus on for 8th edition. Keep in mind that I've only played one game and I don't really care which one is the most powerful in 8th, I just want one that I'll enjoy the look of.

Chaos Space Marines
Pros
>already have Kharn and a box of Khorne Berserkers, so I've already invested some extra $$$ in them
>I fucking love Kharn and the way he looks
>the Soulgrinder and Defilers look fucking amazing and the Defiler is the sole reason that brought me into the universe from the Warhammer40k Dawn of War Dark Crusade days
>the terminator lord's cadre is up there with the next box I want to buy, because Chaos termies look sweet
>the summoning mechanic looks pretty neat

Cons:
>they're the first faction I started to paint, and needless to say a good amount of them look like garbage, especially the Helbrute and Khorne Berserkers

Dark Angels
Pros
>the faction I started to paint after I was done with Chaos, so they look much better by far
>I have a massive hardon for characters wielding 1H weapons and shields, and Deathwing Knights scratch that itch something fierce
>I already have a SM Dreadnought for the army in addition to the stuff from the DA set
>the Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain is IMO one of the best looking small scaled humanoid character, both in looks and pose
>I can incorporate AdMech into the army, which is another faction I really like

Cons
>don't own any HQ characters
>no large scale miniatures that look fun that I know of, outside of transports or ships (unlike CSM)

What should I do?

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>>53686792
>GW then
>GW now

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>>53686783
I meant to post this picture, btw

>>53686715
>explode and crash into the blob

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>>53686815
>How dare you criticize any part of a massively changed rulebook! Love all of it or none of it, fagit!

>>53686792
Say they introduce something like the old guard regiments system. You can pick one of the regiments of reknown with a set of fixed bonuses and some characters, or instead design your own and mix and match whichever bonuses you like. Suddenly a custom tag could make sense.

>>53686796
Ever since the whole Ynn thing happened, Lelith has been going through some rough times, alright? Don't judge.

>>53686821
You can always repaint, it's not that big of a deal. But honestly the real answer is to collect a few models at a time for both until you've got two armies and then run whatever you want at the moment (or both!)

>>53686051
CCBarge is not a character so it will get blown off the board turn one since you can't hide it behind troops

>>53686834
keep pitching your little fit retard it's funny to watch you cry

>>53686801

Hellions and Reavers should be able to slash units they fly over like they do in fluff. It would be a fluffy way for Deldar to snipe characters

>>53686834
Yeah I honestly can't tell if that guy's just a retard or if he's falseflagging to make people who like 8th edition look bad by sperging at everyone who has even one criticism of the new rules.

>>53686796
fluff, fluff has changed.

>>53686837
That's my genuine and utter hope. I thought building chapter tactics for SM was the coolest shit. There's really a lot of potential here, but there's also a clear path for cucking it up by limiting everything to only regiments of renown or these handful of chapters and denying creative freedom for a custom army.

>>53686796
>Combat drugs
She's just on a level where she can tweak her brain chemistry through bio-feedback.

Needles are for newbies.

>>53686801
I'm fine with the not taking snipers, but given how important they look to be in 8th for removing characters it'll hurt some.

Not that deldar looks like a weak list, but still.

>>53686771
>I'll let a bard explain it for me in terms you can understand
>not even using your own words to claim that Chaos is ultimately superior to everyone else because 'entropy'
What's Chaos going to do to win again? Drag the entire galaxy into the Warp?

>>53686855
I agree 100%. That would be cool as shit.

>>53686842

Actually, she didn't use drugs because they muddled the sensation of pain, but if she ran off to join the Ynnari, then she wouldn't need to feed on pain anymore, and thus would be open to using drugs.

>Ynnari.
>Not even once

>>53686842
This, senpaitachi. The girl needed something to fill the void after daddy Vect abandoned her. Poor thing.

>>53686857
Similar posts pop up often enough it seems to just be the hot new shitpost style.

>>53686864
That's what they always do

>>53686871
>Protect me guardsman! I am your leader!
>VVVVRRRRROOOOOOOOMMMM
>Guys! Where's the commissars head?!

>>53686864
Yep. Haven't you noticed the giant warp storm we just cracked the galaxy in half with?

>>53686873
>Actually
Did they ever give an official reason? I thought the comment in the codex was just about demonstrating pure, unrivaled skill. Some of those drugs increased sensitivity or mental clarity, after all.

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>>53686855

>>53685603
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>>53686857
lol you mad

>>53686876
She got religion though

>>53686903
Yeah that sure seemed to cause a lot of problem-

>Guilliman casually crusaded right through it to the other side to save Baal
>is casually crusading right back to the other side again to return to Ultramar and kick Mortarion's ass.

Oh, guess you're full of shit.

>>53686864
>quote from man dragged into the warp.jpeg

>>53686876
>The girl needed something to fill the void after daddy Vect abandoned her. Poor thing.
She should look into Guilliman in order to 'fill that void' of hers. Maybe he's into threesomes or something like that?

>>53686924
>Mary sue did something that would normally be impossible so that means the whole situation is no big deal
Oh yeah totally, nothing to worry about. :^)

>>53686914
Your bait is fucking weak, we put up with way more high-level trolling on a regular basis here, get gud cuck.

>>53686919
Can you imagine how fucking stoked the Ynnari must have been in that moment?

>>53686826
Hmm, looks like the bomber is quite a bit better, to me.
Assuming the power to points conversion is pretty close I'd say the bomber is worthwhile. Maybe I could get one on Ebay or something.

>>53686344
Only the Forgeworld guy.

There's not even a plastic Ork Warboss kit that's non snap-fit for converting.

>>53686932
lol so mad

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>>53686903
>we

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>>53686929
>Guilliman having a threesome with Yvraine and Lelith
Goddammit I don't normally like the elf bitches OR the spess muhreens but that's hot I should see what my two girlfriends think of this

>>53686932
Stop replying.

>>53686955
I'll reply to whatever the fuck I want you dumb bitch

>>53686910

>Her green-eyed detractors among the rival Wych Cults whisper that Lelith’s incredible skill is from an unnatural source – that she has somehow persuaded the Haemonculi to replace her blood with hyperdrenaline, that as a child she suckled upon a steroid-syringe, that she sleeps in a baryonic sarcophagus filled to the brim with stimulant serum. The truth is far simpler – Lelith is a born predator, preferring to look her prey in the eye at the moment of death. The use of combat drugs is for the weak, for they corrupt the instant where the killing strike hits home and the lifeblood flows out. How can one properly appreciate the delicate nuances of a victim’s dying breath when one’s senses are polluted by intoxicants? To forsake chemical enhancement is usually suicidal in the lightning-fast world of the arena, yet such is Lelith’s skill that her pristine flesh remains unscarred. Though her rivals would never accept such a straightforward explanation, Lelith Hesperax is simply that good.

From the codex

can a model use its vanguard move to embark and disembark?

Can a model that falls back embark?

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>>53686903
>>53686950
>he actually identifies with a fictional universe faction like he's responsible for the developments

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Found this picture, good example of marine height.

>>53686976
Read the rules

>>53686976
Did you read the rulebook?

>>53686973
I see. Thanks for the clarification.

>>53686860

Well they did it for the dwarves in sigmar. They bettwr fucking give us that shit or I'm going to kick my local redshirt.

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>>53686976

Are there any good FW/3rd party replacement models for phoenix lords?

>>53686937
Orruk MegaBoss

>>53686990

You can make your own "chapter tactics" for AoS dwarves?

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>>53686966
Don't false flag as me you stupid fuck, I'm literally still right here in the thread.

>>53686997
0/10 where's the GW logo and the copyright info

>>53687006
Stop pretending to be me you shit troll, 2/10 I'm a little mad

>>53687001
Go ahead, model him on a warbike.

>>53687006
You fucking idiot I told you to stop replying.

>>53686997
Saved.

>>53687016
Fuck you, idiot that isn't me.

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>>53686966
>>53687006
>>53687011
>>53687016
>>53687021
fuck this gay thread

>>53687005

My undestanding is that the AoS dwarves have different skyports, which provide them with benefits similar to tactics, and thst there is a table for making your own.

>>53687035
Yes, they're fucking sweet as hell.

>>53686930
you realize you could flip that right back around on abbadon right ?
>mfw chaosfags really believed 8th would be focused around the second battle of terra during the gathering storm

>>53686437
actually I'm not sure it is.

the brood brothers rule only allows GSC keyword specifically to mix. the tyranids detatchment wouldn5 share a keyword with tye IG detatchment and so wouldn't be battleforged.

>>53687035
>>53687046

Sweet

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>>53686997
WTF shit codex, didn't even work on this image.

FAQ when

>>53686511
Yes.
If the abstraction triggers your autism, you can pick up the model, turn it to face its target, and say "pew pow whammo" as you're rolling to hit, then put the model back where it was.

>>53686997
>>53686983
>>53686984
yes, which is why i'm asking. I read the fall back section and the transport section.

>>53687048
Um sweetie why would we even try to take Terra again? We already killed the "emperor" thousands of years ago.

>>53687051
>>53687046

So yeah, I'm hopeful well get something like that for everyone once the codexs hut, what with the while chapter Sept coven order hivefleet shenanigans. If they do, I will never again speak badly of gw.

>>53687064
>we

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>>53687064
>killed emps
>he does more miracles for his faithful than the big four do altogether

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>>53686903
>>53686889
So let me get this straight:
Chaos is ACTIVELY trying to drag the largest race in the galaxy, who view killing daemons as 'keeping them from getting bored during Warp Travel' into the Warp with you?

Because potentially creating trillions upon trillions of Tuska Daemon-Killas and putting said boyz in almost-direct contact with their brutal gods is a brilliant idea.

>>53687050
Read it again, at the end it says you ignore units with the Astra Militarum Keyword when selecting your army faction. So you simply choose Tyranids, all GSC stuff shares Tyranids, and all Astra Militarum stuff is effectively not there.

>>53687061
Did either say you may embark/disembark with a Vanguard move?

>>53686980
and bad anathomy

>>53687070
>>53687080
>Loyalists completely assblasted as usual
now THIS is the power of chaos (tm)

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>>53687064
>we

>>53686997
How do you read this jibberish?
I don't understand!

>>53687081
I love how almost the entire map is green, and then you read the map key and green means HIGH levels of Ork infestation, not just Ork infestation.

>>53686514
Shadowsword

>>53687089
I'd say to do disembarking since disembarking specficially says it has to be at the start of the movement phase.

however i'd say vanguard moves and fall backs could have the infantry fall back into a transport because nothing in the embark rules says this isn't allowed. all they have to do is end their move within 3"


is that the correct interpretation?

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>>53686997
I tried following it's advice, but

>Beginning at the upper left corner of the left page, scan each line horizontally from left to right, moving down the page.

>Quirk how to read a book
>What you'll need dos & don'ts
>a book a proper light source bookmark dog-ear

>>53687112
No.
In 40k it has to be specifically allowed,

>>53686976
>vanguard move
Is this a scout move?

>falls back
Yes, it is just prohibited shooting, advancing, or charging.

>>53686514
Stormlord

>>53687118
Sorry i forgot to post the follow up "How to tell a book from everything else with letters"