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Paizo Games General /pgg/ (formerly known as /pfg/, Pathfinder and Starfinder welcome)

Do your characters have a base? Where do they hang out?

Link repository, could really use an update: https://pastebin.com/PeD1SMUZ

Current Playtests: https://pastebin.com/quSzkadj

Old Thread: >>53678504
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Let's keep doing this from the last thread and try to come up with Starfinder character for the inevitable Star Fox campaign:

1. Go here and get a name: http://orteil.dashnet.org/randomgen/?gen=hRJi2umk

2. Give us a back story of how they joined the recently re-built Star Fox team
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Reminder to ~vote~

Your vote counts and will totally affect things

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd_YgZUGiROPgK3qDj2lE3akp7Hb_CnQQ7u5nlFjpRRd16_BA/viewform

note: Your vote is as meaningless as life is, just a tiny speck of dust spiraling into the darkness of the universe forever. Nothing will come of this.
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https://political-generator.herokuapp.com/
here are your ensoulment philosophies guys
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>>53683266
>Smithian Anarcho-Stalinist
???
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>>53683266
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I just realized that guest players being brought in and out could extend Ensoulment shitposting as long as the game runs. There's no chance it'll go quiet like RotJR and PLD shitposting has gone.

God save us all.
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>>53683342
Let's be honest. very few people will be up for doing that. Most will have forgotten about their character or reused them in another campaign by the time their supposed "turn" comes up.
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>>53683266
>Christian Revolutionary Traditionalist
>Handmaid's Tale
>Post-Colonial Anti-Futurist
>Neoliberalism

This tool is dangerous. It speaks truths.
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>looking over JttW apps
>notice that Sappy has completely changed her character with an actual backstory this time
>implication of marital rape by a weeb as fuck Taldane lord
Wew lad
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Is there any kind of spell or something that can turn an intelligent object into a humanoid? I was thinking maybe Anthropomorphize Creature but that's not exactly right.
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britbong here, invite to gaem :))
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>>53683554
depends on who you're voting for m8
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>that awful bitch just surpassed Wist-Sama

This isn't funny, you fucks. Quit voting for garbage!
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>>53683434
>marital rape
I am fairly sure this is not a concept that existed back then
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>>53683568
Pony Party

A horse in every house
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>>53683575
Who are you talking about
Did someone rig Mouse to the top again?
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>>53683582
Aight fuck off to /mlp/ scum
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>>53683434
Now she's all tragic yo wtf
>Mandate of Heaven
>is a Shogun's daughter
:thinking:
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>>53683586
they're referring to c3 taking the lead over Rinta
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What kind of character would generate the biggest shit storm getting into Ensoulment?
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>>53683579
That's why it was implied, she had sex she did not want.
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>>53683630
That's not really possible by the standards of the day though. Anyway, I like the character but now it comes down to tone and schedule. None of the other apps are remotely this dark.

>>53683627
C3 was always marginally more popular than Rinta, what's the surprise though? Was there a single poll where she was actually behind Rinta?
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>>53683651
C3 is fucking garbage. It's a disgrace and you're a disgrace for voting for it.
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>>53683586
Kawase and his chink slaves are just spamming the poll again.
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>>53683665
>>53683667
ebin
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>CERAPHINE NOW TIED WITH AURELIA

WAIFU FIGHT
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>>53683628
Rory.
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>>53683667
Nigger I had to ask people to post the results for me because I can't see them, it's hosted on Google remember?
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Alright, I think I got the right art for the Love Princess. She'll be the smugelf that wants to strengthen interspecies ties through vigorous handholding
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>>53683685
Wow, you really are the opposite of Wist.

Super rude. Please leave.
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>>53683688
Not seeing the smug.
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>>53683628
Felix
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>>53683688
Can she get behind homosexual relationships?
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>>53683715
I'll get behind you in a homosexual relationship, m8. Now bend over~
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>>53683699
That's because her smug is subtle most of the time.

>>53683715
Of course! She encourages love of all kinds. Even forbidden love, really.
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>>53683688
Someone say... Smug Elf?

This art's even got a heart jewel!
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>>53683741
Yes ma'am.
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What's an "Amanandane"?
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>>53683748
That one's great too. Probably will go with that one in the end, but who knows?
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>>53683685
How many chinaposters do we got in here?
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>>53683746
>encourages forbidden love
>supposed to be CCC's foil
So she's going to actively ENCOURAGE her to bed Witch, then?
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>>53683781
There's at least two other GMT+8s besides me (Wist and the KSnHfag), and possibly at least one other besides those two, but I doubt they're from China.

>>53683792
More like actively try to bed Witch
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WWW is running today right?
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>>53683768
I assume it's a person from Amanandar, the Taldane colony in Tian Xia. http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Amanandar
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>>53683802
T-this was not the threesome I was expecting
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>>53683811
Ah I see I was assuming it was some obscure subspecies of something. What the hell, they're just humans, I was expecting like bugbears or gnolls or something.
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>>53683803
No, tomorrow
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>mfw I'm seriously, honestly, truly thinking of applying to JttW with a male Rougarou.
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>>53683834
t. Jacob I don't remember his last name. Or Edward's, for that matter. Or Bella's. My mind has purged their details.
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>>53683834
do it bitch you won't
Alternatively, be a skinwalker with the Sphers ART for ALL DAY Animal Form
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>>53683811
There's a fucking demonym on the page you linked, it's Amanandaran.
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>>53683843
But the Herald of the Twilight has already applied to the game, anon
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>>53683843
Jacob was a Witchwolf Skinwalker, not a Rougarou.
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>>53683852
Amanandane doesn't return anything at all though.
>>53683858
The what of what now
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>>53683867
>Amanandane doesn't return anything at all though.
That's exactly what I said, anon.
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>>53683886
So...what is an "Amanandane"?
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>>53683867
you make a twilight joke and you fail to get this reference you are such a terrible person fucking hell mate
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>>53683890
A mistake.
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Is DHB a PM'able crush?
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>>53683902
Lad I don't remember shit from twilight except Bella getting an internal C-section.
>google it
>WoW
I never played WoW.
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>>53683792
Yes. Love has no boundaries, after all!

>>53683802
>>53683827
If Witch really is one of CCC's bastards, she'd be very cross with our resident wizard. It hurts Love Princess doubly, both as a slight against her ideals and as a reminder of her own past.
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>>53683905
It's supposed to be Amanandar
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>>53683890
I think it's someone trying to make an adjective for being from Amanandar, since Taldane is the language of Taldor. Though the term should be Amanandan, since the term for one from Taldor is Taldan.
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>>53683434

>mfw Yumiko is a realistic portrayal of what would happen if you're 2D waifu a real.
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>>53683919
Oh for fuck's sake
there is a JttW app that's literally Loki, you know, the guy who ushers in Ragnarok AKA the Twilight of the Gods and all that
You made a bad Twilight joke and you got a worse yet better twilight joke back now don't make me fucking spoonfeed you again
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>>53683929
I feel like C3 is a good character but has a high chance to be murdered by or otherwise not get along with half of the other strong apps.
>Itsuko
Shot on sight as soon as she opens her mouth; something that might be a cool start to a party forced to work together anyway would probably just kill our resident >Level 3 / 10 HP / 13 AC
>Witch
C3 sounds like the type who has 100% no problem with half-truths, omitted facts, and outright lies and Witch goes full REEEEE over that. Again, >Level 3 / 10 HP / 13 AC
>Jericho
I see basically no way they can get along, C3 is all but guarenteed to call him a mindless untermensch.

>>53683984
>the Amanandar is a 3DPD fa/tg/uy who's so ugly she just can't take it
>when she leaves there is an identical girl taking her place because lol just download a new one
Deep.
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>>53684025
This makes me actually wonder how Witch is going to react when (if?) CCC does The Reveal. She's already bonkers enough already, now she finds out her mom abandoned her for no real reason?
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>>53684025
Jericho actually comes off as pretty damn chill to me.
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>>53684025
I have faith in all of those characters to not immediately resort to murder when they come in contact with someone they disagree with.
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>>53684064
He actually cries in DHB's last update.
GODDAMN IT he's so fucking cute
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>>53684064
Jericho is chill, but C3 is not.
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>>53684080
Jericho for the reborn Astaroth?
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>>53684025
>>53684061
Well unless it stops her being a Healing-Type Magical Girl I doubt she's going to kill her.
It's almost like a Reverse Vader situation.
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>check app page for JttW
t. Rory
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>>53684025
Love Princess and Witch would have a weird dynamic, I think.

For all her proclamations about children being the ultimate expression of love, LP has never been able to conceive due to internal damage. So, seeing Witch might make her feel like she's meeting the daughter she's always wanted but could never have.
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>>53684080
>>53684091
He already cried in the previous version. I think holding your dying father's hand as he passes away is an appropriate moment to cry.
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>>53684025
>I see basically no way they can get along, C3 is all but guarenteed to call him a mindless untermensch.
Why do you say that? Jericho is pretty ubermensch. The guy is a intelligent, charismatic, 6'5", muscled snake man.
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>>53684105
>Kitsune (Yokai)
>TIME HAS STOPPED

oh im laffin
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>>53684025
C3 NEEDS to be killed. If she's an NPC, the PCs need to make a point to hunt her down and butcher her.
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>>53684110
Curiously, that's not the moment when you're most likely to cry if you're strong-willed and hardass enough.
You are mentally conditioned to cry when other people in your family around you are crying, like at a family member's funeral. Pheromones and shit.
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>>53684134
TOKIO TOMARE
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>>53684110
Not saying it isn't. I'm just glad to see an emotional character.
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>>53684110
Oh, no, that's manly as fuck. Jericho is unironically my favorite app.
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>>53684140
unWist get the fuck out, you're just jealous
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>>53684167
aaaaaaa I want DHB to kill C3 and marry me
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>>53684080
What I see from his last update is that he focused in and really clarified his goals/motivation.

Also I'm seeing that his father and uncle were both higher level than him and now both don't do the Enforcer job. So the Royal Enforcer (the identity they all shared) just lost like 3-5 levels.

DHB has said his character interacts with the Crimson Dreadnought class. You can't take that until level 6 so Jericho's father was at least level 6.

What level do you guys think Jericho's father and uncle were/are? Is it ok to put high level family members in your back story?

>>53684146
His sister was there, she might have been crying as well.
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>>53684190
I don't care if he marries you as long as I still get to fuck him.
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>>53684025
>C3 sounds like the type who has 100% no problem with half-truths, omitted facts, and outright lies
She doesn't and wouldn't try to justify it if found out so it'd be quite something at least. I don't really care if CCC and Witch are related, it's up to Witch's player.

>a mindless untermensch
Depends on how much of his backstory he tells her, which is probably very little on meeting, you don't just say haha lol my dad died and now I'm lost and looking for my heroic dream also my uncle said some spooky shit yo haha, that's just not what you do.

>>53684130
CCC would object to how his goal is dictated mainly by others and by being lost. He's not an actor, he's a reactor; or as CCC would put it, he's an object moved, not a subject moving. Whether or not it's accurate is pretty irrelevant to how she would see it.

>>53684134
TOKI WO TOMARE

>>53684140
If you want to kill her you best do so before the Wizard takes off despite the fluff nerfing it into the mantle as a side effect of its requirements. I can't fucking take Stinking Cloud kill me now

>>53684146
Ehhh, even the strongest of us have a moment of weakness, especially if his dad was the type that let you be soft when you were alone with him.
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>>53684198
Where's the Crimson Dreadnought from anyways?
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>>53684150
TOKI WO TOMARE
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>>53684190
All you will get is royally cucked by C3 at this rate
>>53684198
Well then, crying sisters/mothers does it.
Or crying fathers. Crying fathers fucking make you bowl. Damnit dad..
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>look at Rory's app
>Shízhōng
>时钟
>literally named himself Clock for a TIME HAS STOPPED app
Okay you win.
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aaaaaaa i just want to see Aurelia reunited with her love.
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>>53684259
Her love is the Princess
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>>53684259
Her love is shit taste, just like yours
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>>53684211
I'm guessing from the first meeting what you see in Jericho is a giant charismatic snake man from a prestigious family. If you're not from court (which literally every other app is) you would know he is the only one with a history of service as a symbol that goes back generations.

Basically he is physically intimidating and on paper looks like someone qualified for the job.
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>>53684256
>Literally blonde fuccboi DIO

He wins
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>>53684297
CCC is technically a high noble, but since she doesn't have peerage all she does is attend balls and fuck around on royal grounds doing basically nothing and trying to shill for a university. So essentially, yes, she's not a courtier.
It basically depends on how quickly she finds out about Jericho's background. The sooner she finds out (in other words, the more lost Jericho still is at the time and the less time Cornelia has had to figure out the nuances of his personality) the more abrasive she'll be with him.

>>53684317
You were expecting an Asian Wuxia dude
But it was ME, DIO.
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I hope everyone had a good night.
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Before I completely change an app, is there anything redeeming about SoM alchemy after the changes? Unless I'm missing something its HD+Rank for save option is gone, the dedication effect boost is gone, and crafting any appreciable amount takes forever. As much as I like the scholar I think I'd rather just play a technician or change to a completely different character.
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>>53684256
I haven't read the app yet but you know, even if I end up liking it I will never be allowed to say anything good about it because people will assume I'm Rory.

t.rory
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>>53684340
My night is already past and gone and I haven't slept a fucking wink
So no
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>>53683618
There's not a lot of information on the Elves of Jinin, the assumption I made was that they slapped Minkan terms on their normal traditions, so the Shogun is really a continuation of the heavenly mandate (give or take).

>>53683852
My mistake, thanks for the heads up.
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>TIME GUY is a kineticist||oracle
>Mira is a Kineticist||Oracle
>both are blonde and likely charisma based
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>>53684400
Are you suggesting they're born to be together?
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>>53684211
>Controller Wizard with 8 Con
>not taking Stinking Cloud
Are you planning on not taking Black Tentacles or Glitterdust either? What the hell are you thinking?
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>>53684429
M-muh flavor
I'm taking both of those because they can at least be described as 'awesome' or 'cool' in some respect
I might take Stinking Cloud if I can refluff it as some kind of fast acting but long-term harmless poison cloud instead of what amounts to an especially noxious fart
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>>53684400
>>53684411
>This level of dubs

I think we're on to something, autists...
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>>53684429
If she's as lewd as we think she is, clearly she's going to take grasping tentacles instead.
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>>53684356
>SoM
It's garbage dude, you should've known from the start.
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>>53684466
>>53684411
>>53684400
N-NANI
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>>53684212
Legendary Villains - Vigilantes
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>>53684489
INFINITE DUBWORKS

RORY CONFIRMED MEME MAGICIAN

I think he really just wanted in on the blond fuccboi meta
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>>53684489
>off_by_one.jpg
BUT YOU WERE THE CHOSEN (ONE)
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>>53684400
>>53684411
>>53684466
>Mira x Shizhong is now the canon couple

fuck, still weeks off and already cucked
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So do any of these games ever get ran or are they on and off cycling through different players? How many weeks has it been hearing about the same advertised games and people applying for them?
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>>53684507
Don't you mean Clocked :^)
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>>53684507
>>53684504
Rory has stiff competition in the blonde fuccboi department though
Literally considering his class
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>>53684511
PLD's the only one that's bleeding players, everyone else has been trucking along just fine and dandy.
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>>53684511
Most have like a full month where they take apps before choosing the actual players.

As for which actually run, it seems like a 50/50 chance on if the game actually happens or if it gets bamboozled instead
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>>53684479
I know. I know man and I know it's my fault I still want to play it, but some of it is really fun and could be workable garbage. The scholar is such a cool idea for a class and I really like some abilities, but holy shit it's so fucked right now they need to just flush the entire thing and start its design all over.

So instead I'll have to rework my character to be a technician or make a different concept, which isn't too hard since there's plenty I want to play. I just don't want to give up on something I want to like so easily.
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>>53684511
So far nothing that's actually gotten going has fallen apart, the concern is that session 1 never happens.

Well there was that one time with Hell's Vengeance but I think they got their shit back together?
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>>53684520
CLOCKED
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>>53684520
>Not clock blocked
GET
ON
MY
LEVEL
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This is so much worse than even Overlewd at this point, and there are still weeks to go. Protagonist please institute a ban on talking about your game in the thread, the discord is already a near constant circle jerk of people talking about their characters
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>>53684559
There's fun class concepts everywhere, being an ideasman is cheap
SoM falls into the classic problem of 'goddamn this is such a cool idea' but it's executed like irredeemable garbage
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>>53684581
How the fuck would he even enforce that lol.
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>>53684581
People will just start shilling their characters anonymously, do you seriously think Protag has any identifying power in this thread where nobody has a trip or even really avatarfags? I mean discord is one thing, it has names.
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>>53684581
Or he could shorten the app time to less than half a year
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>>53684609
If any of you shill me we're not friends anymore
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speaking of DHB characters how is LoBaF doing? The last green text gave support for Shanan x Essa. Is Essa gonna cuck the cluck?
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>>53684632
t. unwist
If it were Wist I'd be scared
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>>53684562
>>53684580
I want Clock's stupidly enormous cock!
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>>53684608

I'm not asking for it to be enforced just a general "Please don't shit up the thread with your NEET attention seeking garbage"
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>>53684638
SON OF A BITCH. I EVEN DROPPED THE GODDAMN AAAAAAS AND CHANGED HOW I TYPE, THERE'S EVEN SOMEONE ELSE DOING THEM NOW. HOW THE FUCK DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING.
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In my mind the ideal app time is 2 weeks. 1 week to put in reserve spots and partially finish apps and one week to finalize apps and get feedback.

If two weeks isn't enough time to make a character you don't have enough time to be in a game. Anything more is excessive.
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>>53684520
>>53684580
>>53684646
You know what this means, right?
Logs when?
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>>53684535
>>53684550
>>53684561

I see, makes sense. I suppose while we're at it is Roll20 basically a must to run games for people here? I've also heard not good things about the use of Discord or, at the very least, it's frowned upon for some reason.
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>>53684632
We can see you winking Kawase
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>>53684663
That's Argentum's length right? It's pretty good.
I think what's more important though is for DMs to have a schedule, especially ones like Protag who are in games and work.
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>>53684663
In my mind the ideal app is a simple discord jingle or advertisement drop followed by a discussion on what each player wants to make. None of this application process, none of this memery, just a quick in-n-out.
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>>53684663

But then how could the mentally ill denizens of this thread fill up multiple generals a day with their garbage shipping, shilling, and now POLLS.
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>>53684679
What about me and winking now?

>>53684682
How is that any different from the application process? Unless you mean first come first served or something?
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>>53684676
>I suppose while we're at it is Roll20 basically a must to run games for people here?

Pretty much, yeah. Roll20 provides the smoothest roleplaying experience alongside a quality battlemap and dice-rolling system. If you're thinking of making a campaign, you do it there.

Are you?
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>>53684673
You will get them in time
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>>53684705
Wasn't there that one website which is more or less objectively better but costs like 150 dollars?
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>>53684673
Just in the nick of time, famlam:
https://pastebin.com/zUGVAmbf
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>>53684663
I personally like three. Definitely don't like these month and a half runs.
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>>53684702
>Unless you mean first come first served or something?

That is exactly what I mean.

I fucking despise the clique culture that's grown out of drawn-out application processes. If a player is a piece of shit in a first-come-first-serve, you kick that fucker out and replace them.

>>53684714
Never heard of it.
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>>53684715
could you not
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>>53684715
delete yourself
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>>53684715
Has there ever been a character more ruined by the existence of these logs or even the fact this scene happened? The only one I can think of that comes close is Gloriana getting fucked by a dog, but god damn is this antique.
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>>53684705

I would like to. I've been out of the tabletop scene for too long and Starfinder's got me excited to try my hand at GMing. Basically try to run APs for Starfinder as they come out then work the courage to write my own shit.
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>>53684727
Wouldn't clique culture get even worse in a "first come first serve" environment, especially given how sooner or later people are GOING to get to know eachother outside of the game with the advent of irc/discord?
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>>53684727
>Never heard of it.
I can't remember the name.

>unironically asking for first come first serve
While I do appreciate the idea of trying to make the party members make sense together instead of massive backstories, I'd prefer a solid "No" to this.

>>53684715
Oh come off it stop this already.
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>>53684749
Halae's attempt to overmeme Mouse comes pretty close.
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>>53684340
It was. Just got off the phone with my best bro who lives on the other side of the country. Just hung out and shot the shit, and had a good time together.
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>protagonist changes his name to antagonist but he still picks apps
>they're all shit tier apps
How mad would you be?
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I think I'll withdraw my Ensoulment character
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>>53684727
>I fucking despise the clique culture that's grown out of drawn-out application processes
>shill a game on Discord, first come first serve
>expecting his discord buddies to not get first bite to the exclusion of everyone else
Ah YES
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>>53684793
Which one are you anon?
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>>53684793
For what reason?
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>>53684793
Tired of being called out for writing NPCs, Hecate?
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>>53684819
kys NPCfag
You discredited yourself by outing yourself as a retard who doesn't even read the apps he memes yesterday
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>>53684757
Good luck, dude. If you build it we will certainly come. Hell, you should start writing your shit now, you've got two months to build up your courage and refine the campaign!

>>53684749
>The only one I can think of that comes close is Gloriana getting fucked by a dog

You know, it's funny how this ruined Gloriana for me in a way that's similar to Rory, but going in an opposite direction. The Rory x Aurora Shower Scene ruined and enraged me to the character, but Gloriana's Puppy Love was just... She had the big dumb cute Paladin thing going before that, you know? Everyone was excited about her doing her thing, and now what? She's just the blonde that got knotted by a big dumb hound. That's it, that's her legacy.
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>>53684838

The worst part of Dragons2 for me is even knowing Rory leaked logs, that everyone in that group has probably still ERP'd with him. And that even knowing how universally he is reviled, he apps to additional games and self shills.

It becomes hard to get mad because he seems mentally ill.
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>>53684799
Oh my god who the fuck CARES? Are you going to get pissy that a DM wants to run a game with players they know are reliable and fun? Listen to yourself, this is like going up to a campaign table at your FLGS and shouting at them for being exclusionary pricks because *they* are a bunch of friends playing a game *you* wanted to play.

You want to play a campaign? Either go on Roll20 and find one, get lucky with First Come, or have friends.
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>>53684861
Stupidity isn't a mental illness.
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>>53684862

I understand the idea of first come first serve, but sadly there is no reason for a DM to do it. And based on how NEETs patrol these threads, it would be the same people all the time anyway
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>>53684872
This isn't stupidity though, it's attention whoring.
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>>53684862
>Oh my god who the fuck CARES?
Literally fucking you because you are the one complaining about a "Clique Culture". I don't believe in a clique culture to any degree of making a real difference unless you're basically tied with someone he already know, you do fucking realize all of the cabalists were nobodies before right? Hell some of the new 'cabalists' only got into their first game a moh or two ago.
FCFS is meaningless because you may as well just invite your friends, that's what everyone does instead, why the fuck bother with FCFS and risking retarded randos when you can just take your friends instead?
The entire point of an application process is to reduce "clique culture" to a reasonable point - the problem comes when the "cabalists" are mostly decent writers anyway AND may be friends with the DM.
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>>53684861
>everyone in that group has ERP'd with him

Surely there's some smart ones among them
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>>53684919
Swimming Eagle didn't pick for smart in that crop, he picked for memery.
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>173 posts
>26 IPs
Oh yeah I'm thinking
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>>53684919
Who the hell cares?
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>thought about making a girl obsessed with justice for Ensoulment
>realized it'd probably be seen as redundant and treading on the toes of other apps

Shucks.
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>>53684948
DO IT ANYWAYS, PUSSY!
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>>53684940
Eh. Broodie at least seems to have some brains.

>>53684948
There's like 40+ apps, you're gonna step on some toes no matter what unless you're really Esoteric. Thus you should STOMP those toes instead. You know what i'm saying?
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>>53684941
Did you not notice that /pgg/ has about 50 people in total?
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>>53684948
Fuck 'em. Be the better justice.
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>>53684941
Thinking this thread and General is dead in the water because the incessant in-talking and fetish posting has scared away casual viewers? Of course you should be thinking that. This General is a fucking joke, and it's been a fucking joke for the past six months. Good conversations are a breath of fresh air when they should be the norm here.
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>>53684948
It's a competition, stomp on their heels if that's what you want to play. Rip them off wholesale and do them better if you want to.

But don't selfshill, that's not cool.
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>>53684948
>treading on the toes
The application process is a competition, not an orderly line. Just make the app, if they get kicked out in favor of you then that means your app was just better and they didn't deserve to get in.
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>>53684948
Well, unless your writing is fucking top notch you'd either just be ignored or NPC'd. Only actual meme apps are mocked.
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>>53684970
Casuals can fuck off anyway, you can leave too if you hate it so much.
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>>53684988
Or you can go back to /d/ you fetishposting faggot
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>>53684861
AS IF I WOULD ERP WITH SOMEONE WHO GETS IN MY GODDAMN FIRING LANES

RORY.
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>>53684992
Doesn't work that way; there's nothing to talk about and it's harmless anyway. I'm not a fetishposter because I don't even know how to fetishpost. Deal with it or leave, your choice.
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>>53684819
What's your beef with that guy? Did they cuck you out of a character concept or something?
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>>53685006
THERE WAS A VERY ENTICING TARGET OKAY

I WAS FEELING GOOD AFTER GETTING OFF A CHARGE-CRIT OKAY
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>>53685017
He's been calling a bunch of characters NPCs at random lately.
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>>53685020
A CHARGE CRIT WHICH BLOCKED OFF A FIRING LANE I WOULD HAVE ON THE FIRST TERM YOU DUMB DOG.

AAAAAA
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>>53685017
Nah, mediocrity just offends me.
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>post a :thinking: face with some bullshit tacked on
>come back and the thread exploded

now that really makes me think
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>>53685006
>>53685020
>>53685024
I'm sure you all have a discord, how about fucking off back to it?
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>>53685024
UNWIST GET OUT OF THE THREAD
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>>53685024
I CLEAVED A MAN IN TWO OKAY IT WAS FUN

JUST DON'T SHOOT ME I MIGHT DIE
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>>53684988
Casuals were the lifeblood of this General, they were what gave us questions the regulars knew the answers to, or the catalysts that sparked conversations about setting culture or plot or countries or a dozen other things relevant to the setting.

And you know what? We had those. We had a crop of those come in earlier this week and throughout last week. People asking stupid questions that got simple answers... But then they stopped. Why? Do you think it had anything to do with our constant conversations about who is CUTE! CUTE! Or who's got the biggest tits or CASUALLY MENTIONING BESTIALITY AND EXPLICIT SEXUAL MATERIAL? Holy fucking shit man, the casual conversation we have now would have been the exclamation point of an especially raunchy discussion about NPC breast size.

We're a dead General for a dying company throwing their all into a system we hardly even talk about.
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>>53685027
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>>53685025
Then help the guy?

>>53685021
This anon or Hecate?
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>>53685037
>JUST DON'T SHOOT ME I MIGHT DIE

FUCKING DO IT YOU SHITTY RAT, END IT HERE AND NOW.
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>>53684838
>She had the big dumb cute Paladin thing going before that, you know? Everyone was excited about her doing her thing, and now what? She's just the blonde that got knotted by a big dumb hound. That's it, that's her legacy.

Wasn't she literally always a damaged goods rape victim? Now she's just even more of a damaged goods rape victim. Cashmere is better anyway
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>>53685065
OH I FUCKING THOUGHT ABOUT IT BELIEVE ME.
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>>53685009
Sure it does. Here, have a thread

>>>7468037

Now go, masturbate to your heart's content you absolute fucking faggot
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>>53685025
You don't even read the characters you mock, how do you expect people to take you seriously?

>>53685038
>But then they stopped. Why? Do you think it had anything to do with our constant conversations about who is CUTE! CUTE! Or who's got the biggest tits or CASUALLY MENTIONING BESTIALITY AND EXPLICIT SEXUAL MATERIAL?
If they can't deal with that then they shouldn't be here; that or maybe you might realize people just don't have that many questions or realize they're fucking retarded for asking stupid questions.

>casuals were the lifeblood of this general
1. Don't capitalise General, I remember your dumb fucking ass.
2. Who cares? The general being alive is neither a good thing nor a bad thing, it's a simple fact. If it dies then it dies because we have nothing to talk about it's that simple, that's how 4chan works.

>We're a dead General for a dying company throwing their all into a system we hardly even talk about.
Because we're done talking about it. People were talking about the new species for a thread, but the new species only have so much material.
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>>53684962
I like Broodie. I wish he would cheer up, but he's a cool one.
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>>53685038
This, desu.
I miss our casuals
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>>53685038
It's hilarious that apparently the killing blow of pfg was actually giving everyone the chance to play in games.
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>>53685089
ily too red
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>>53685071
>Wasn't she literally always a damaged goods rape victim?

Of course, but that never really came up in discussions about the character.
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>>53685081
>>>/d/7468037

Correct link
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>>53685093
>everyone
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Well fuck...

Aurora's down for the count.
Rory's at 4 hp.
The party has only taken down a few minions.
And to top it all of. the party only has 4 mor rounds before they start freezing to death.

Might have made the encounter a bit hard.
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>>53685092
>missing the 4th guy in a row asking what weapons he can use Weapon Finesse with
I can write a bot for you if you want, it's not like casuals write creative questions.
>>53685106
Even Broodie was an anon at first, anon.
>>53685098
Huh.
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>>53685038
I remember when I used to be a casual that started conversations. Everyone was really nice and helpful. I try to help folks that come in now, but I just don't see many folks asking for help.
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>Jun Fan is cool
>Jun Fan is going to be crushed beneath the weight of semi-optimized PoW.

Poor Chinese Barristan...
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>>53685116
There were never that many to begin with. When casuals come in people answer them anyway, it's not like we ignore them most of the time.
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Hey, Journey to the West seems interesting. Could anyone help me learn more about the region? I'm not familiar with Tian Xia at all.
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>>53685122
>thinking Maximum actually has time to play
Joke apps REALLY need to be clearly labelled as such.
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>>53685130
Gazetteer of the Dragon Empire should be in trove 2. It pretty much gives you all the relevant information about Tian Xia.
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>>53685088
>muh secret club
>gotta keep normies out
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>>53685122
Jun Fan's an old man full of regret looking for a way to redeem himself. Even if he made it in, he'd have his obi-wan moment within the first half-dozen sessions and then get killed off.
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>>53685130
Read the Dragon Empires gazetteer. Look at the pathfinder wiki. Read stuff from Tian Xia APs. That's basically it.
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>>53685107
SWEEP THE LEG! NO MERCY!
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>>53685162
BREAK THEIR BONES QUICKLY
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>>53685116
>>53685125
>but I just don't see many folks asking for help.

It's because the thread is so fucking toxic to those sorts of questions that nobody bothers. People think casuals just materialize out of the aether and plop their steamy shitty questions in the thread without reading the rest of it.

When I want to ask a question in a thread, I typically browse the entire thread until I reach the bottom. You know, maybe someone mentions an event or something in the setting I'm interested in, that sort of stuff. Casual browses this thread and they see an unbroken conversation about a game they've never heard of interspersed with ejaculatory comments about fat-breasted Elves and fuccboi blondes. That skeeves people out.

It's a case of Broken Windows on a digital scale. Nobody comes here because they glance at our store and see broken windows and a fat slob of a man railing some ugly chick on the counter.
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>>53685130
Here's the primer but it's not very detailed
http://www.pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Tian_Xia

In the Trove #1 (OP pastebin), Dragon Empires Gazetteer is essentially the main and only source have about Tian Xia. Rise of the Jade Regent and other Tian Xia APs can supplement.
Short version: not!Asia exploded after not!China refused to get its shit together like it always has and simply balkanized into a million little states, not!Japan is in the Sengoku Jidai, and it's seperated from the general pseudoeuropean setting by a big-ass mountain range.
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>>53685166
Sleep tight Rory?
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>>53685130
>Could anyone help me learn more about the region?

I'd recommend going into the Pathfinderwiki and finding a country that interests you there, and then just drill drill drill with tabs.
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>>53685168
>so fucking toxic to these sort of questions
I bothered to answer the casual's question; you evidently decided your time was better spent replying to a "shitposter".
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>>53685154
>>53685141
Anything in particular that would be important for Journey to the West? Key countries or locations? I assume we'd be working our way through Tian Xia. Do I need to know about the whole continent?
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>>53685185
F
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>>53685192
You can probably get away with learning one region and building as a provincial from it. Decide on a real Asian culture you like and go from there.
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>>53685130
Look at this map:
https://i.warosu.org/data/tg/img/0444/30/1451349059913.png
Look up the name of any country you're interested at:
http://pathfinderwiki.com/
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>>53685025
Uh-huh. And what's your master piece app?
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>>53685094
I'm not Red, but I like Red too. He's really nice.
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>>53685192
IIRC the mcguffin was stolen in Tianjin, that's all we know. Other than that, pick your favorite place and go ham.
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>>53685192
I would presume that you'd need to know the general geography and the political situation. Argentum hasn't really said anything about where exactly his campaign is even starting; it could be anything from a journey through Tian Xia ending just outside its borders to a journey beginning near the borders journeying to the 'west'. A safe bet is just have the basic geography of Tian Xia and the surroundings down, plus a province to build off and roleplay as unless you're pulling a Mira or Lingmeng and are going for isolationist.
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>>53685218
It was stolen on Mt. Guanghui and he fled "west past the Wall of Heaven", so presumably the Mcguffin was stolen on the Wall?
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Is there a list of what pathfinder country is analogous to what asia country?
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>>53685238
>>53685223
>>53685218
> it seems that Kelesh and Vudra may be your best bet to find them...
Well, I guess it is a journey to the West after all.
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>>53685238
>west past the Wall of Heaven

The Wall of Heaven is a mountain range that basically cuts off the entirety of Tian Xia's West coast to the ocean besides a small gap where Goka resides, it's one of the reasons the continent's so isolated from everyone else and why the Path of Aganhei is so important.
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>>53685097
Why not? Wasn't it in her app? She was always a plaything for horrid hentai shit. She was never good, Anon. She was always dirt!
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>>53685253
Not really, just tell us what Asian country you want to work with.

Minkai is Japan, Lingshen is China and Hongal is Mongolia.
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>>53685253
Minkai / Minata is not!Japan. Amanandar is basically Hong Kong in its situation. Everything north of that is not!China, as is a lot of the stuff to the South north of Po Li.
It'll be easier just to say what you want to rip off.
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>>53685107

As for an actual green text

>Party continues to explore mysterious Ice cave they were teleporting too.
>They find the Golem that DG1 beat down as part of their trial there.
>the golem explains, Via hand gestures and pictographs, that the party is NOT in the lair. They're actually at the South Pole. AKA the Throne of The World.
>They quickly try to find a way back, following sounds of combat. To see Rory, who had been separated at the teleportation pad.
>Rory was investigating the REAL lair with his his steady gal, and Crossbreed Priscilla expy, Mune.
> Apparently some lady, dubbed "Ice Queen" by the bandits had been taking all the good magic items from the old lair and leaving the defective ones for the Criminals to sell off.
>he goes to confront the lady, who turns into a white dragon, and in an incident involving a rod of gate. Gets ported directly to the party, and then the party gets ported back to the entrance... where all hell is breaking loose right now.

The take away here is... Legendary reactions might be a bad idea if you have minions.
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>>53685288
So is most of the continent China analogue? What's this forest of spirits place? How samurai movie is minkai?
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>>53685313
>literally made to balance out single creature action econ
>gee it might have been a bad idea to shove in some minions to clog up the action econ in this fight
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>>53685267
>Why not? Wasn't it in her app?

Of course it was in her app, stop being insipid. The campaign called for dark horrid shit and IKiD wrote a character that had dark horrid shit happen to her. I recall most conversations people had about her backstory focused more on how dumb she was or how she's suffered some real bullshit or that she's a proper corruption-slurping slut. Lots of memes, but none of them focusing on how her husband fucked her with two cocks or fucked her twice or even that much about her demon rape-baby son. She was just a cute, mentally dull Paladin that did things.

>She was always a plaything for horrid hentai shit.
As is every other character in that campaign?
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>>53685320
Forest is the go-to place for random kami and spirits and other folklore shit that isn't easily made into a single culture. It's a grab bag of countries.
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>>53685320
>How samurai movie is minkai
It's pretty weeb. Think Nobunaga's Ambition + Samurai Warriors.

>forest of spirits
Dude it's not like I don't want to help you but have you tried browsing the wiki we linked? I mean if you've got specific questions sure, but browsing the wiki and reading the gazeeter would let you ask non-trivial questions.

>The Forest of Spirits is an immense pine woodland located just below the arctic circle on the continent of Tian Xia. It lies east of the nation of Hongal and to the northwest of Minkai, separating this latter country from mainland Tian Xia. A distance of 1,200 miles separates Hongal from Minkai through the extent of the Forest of Spirits. It is the primeval birthplace of the nature spirits known as the kami.
>The Forest of Spirits is located in a subarctic environment and so is almost always covered in snow. It is dominated by massive pine trees which are so densely packed together, there is practically no undergrowth.
>Human establishments are rare even on the edges of the forest, but quickly peter out as one enters deeper into the forest. Animals are plentiful as are incorporeal spirits which give the forest its name, and the kami.
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>>53685342
Remember when people thought it was Bloodborne?
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>>53685320
Shokuro is samurai movies. The Forest of Spirits is Princess Mononoke sans Iron Town. Minkai is japanese folklore and legends.
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Is anyone actually excited for Starfinder?
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>>53685107
I'M GOING TO DO IT /PFG/
I'M GONNA SAVE THEM ALL
I'M THE HERO OF THIS STORY

ITS NOT MY FAULT IF RORY DIES BUT I WILL NEED A NEW MEATSHIELD IF HE DOES.
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>>53685352
It kind of is, just with a lot of rape. Plain Doll is third time pregnant in this version.
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>>53685337

Regardless. The party is loving the challenge. Even if they're scared shitless.
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>>53685358
>/pfg/
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>>53685369
fuck off
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>>53685107
>Rory's at 4 hp.

I hope he dies.
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>>53685320
>So is most of the continent China analogue?

It's a mess of memes, some places are Monster Mashes and some are Southeast Asia and some are Kung Fu Movies and one is even a Chairman Mao/Pol Pot Communist Dictatorship. Lingshen is played straight as a China analogue, though, and most of Tian Xia used to be under what was essentially the Celestial Empire less than a hundred years ago, and Lingshen is on the warpath to reclaim lost Imperial territory.

>What's this forest of spirits place?

It's the forest between greater Tian Xia and Minkai, if you've seen Princess Mononoke you know what goes on there.

>How samurai movie is minkai?

Incredibly Samurai, to the point they've got three gods of Samurai; one for good, one for evil and one as honorabru.
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>>53685369
nobody cares about your stupid spess system, shithead
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>>53685352
Fuck, I ain't crazy enough to bloat my schedule with ANOTHER game...but if enough people still want Bloodborne/Darkest Dungeon/Thief shit in a Pathfinder game

well

Maybe I'll just post google docs for the homebrew stuff I did for such a game.
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why the fuck does Stalker not get Evasion by default and a good reflex save
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>>53685320
>So is most of the continent China
Have you looked at a map of Asia before?
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>>53685354
I am!
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>>53685354
CONTEMPLATIVE
WIZARDS
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>>53685389
You'd best post that shit, boi.
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>>53685354

I'm quite excited for it, truth be told.
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>>53685398

What race and class do are your favorites?
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>>53685358
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>>53685354
I have zero hope in Starfinder
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How would you feel about a lewd slavemaster game, /pgg/?
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>>53685406
I want to play a Human Soldier (Sharpshooter) making heavy use of cybernetics.
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>>53685354
It's gonna be shit but it might at least be entertaining shit like Pathfinder
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>>53685346
Sorry, I'm trying to read through both the wiki and the gazetteer, but I thought it might be faster to also ask the thread. I'll try to look for it on my own. Thanks for the help

>>53685346
>>53685384
Princess Mononoke is my jam. That's really cool.
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>>53685402
I'll need to clean it up first. I basically spent more time thinking up story beats and compiling a playlist than I did really hammering out mechanics. There's a city, though, and some monsters. Maybe a PrC.

Depends on how likely I am to actually run this theoretical game--wouldn't want to give everything away.

If you want spoileriffic stuff hit me up in Discord or Roll20 or something
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>>53685415
That depends, are we playing chaotic evil or not
cause that would be really fucking fun to do
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>>53685358
>>53685407
TAKE THE SHOT
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>>53685378
I hope he survives and starts a big family!
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>>53685415
You need to give us more than almost nothing at all, anon.
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>>53685436
well considering his steady gal. they might already be in the works.
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>>53685415
Make the lfg right now. Not that I'm going to apply, but so that we can decentralize the memes for the sake of future threads
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>>53685451
Hey SEagle, when is Onryou gonna get knocked up?
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>>53685482
When probably Corwin continues his trail of rape.
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>>53685451
>he knocked up the Priscilla expy
>Rory, fluffy tail
>Priscilla, fluffy
>He's a daddy with a coveted waifu now
>The kids are gonna be big, dumb, and strong with fluffier tails

It's not fair. IT'S NOT FAIR
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>>53685482

Probably never. Realistically she's either gonna die, or end up in a platonic relationship with a traveling companion. Purely for snuggles.
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>>53685192
A general knowledge of East Asian mythology and culture will suffice, if you have a familiarity with the skeleton that Paizo has provided us on the region. I tend to improv things based on notes formed from prior improv, so things are flexible so long as I think they fit the theme. Which shouldn't be difficult.

>>53685223
There's a fragment of First Through the Gate on each of the major continents (Casmaron, Gerund, Avistan, Arcadia, and Tian Xia), and will thus see the party visit there. What order is up to them, depending on the strategy the party makes.

How things exactly begin will depend on party make-up, and the motivations of the characters in relation to the Radiant Temple. Might have a mini session for people more personally connected to the shrine to fight their way to the battle between the 14th Bride of Heaven and the Spirit Who Curses the Sun. The game proper will begin with a sort of Council of Elrond type thing where various factions in Tian Xia will bluster and posture (and maybe come up with a strategy to deal with this shit).
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>>53685342
>She was just a cute, mentally dull Paladin that did things.

She never stopped being the same person she was back then. A total fucking dummy that gets raped.

I guess I'm just not understanding what changed.
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>>53685415
Are we the slaves or the slave master?
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>>53685432
>>53685407
guys guys guys

i'm not going to kill Rory intentionally
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>>53685530
What changed is she eagerly got fucked by a dog. Not a monster, not a vile thug, a dog.
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>>53685539
Yes, we understand that you have to say that publicly.
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>>53685539
Could you not

He might turn out to be a good and caring daddy
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>>53685517
Rory is more of a daddy than Slow has or probably ever will be.
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>>53685515
Um... what?
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>>53685575
Didn't Corwin go off to bang Valeriya in the last session?
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Ensoulment check. SotJR check. PLD check. Dragon 2 check. Some Blingmaker posting and we have bingo.
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>>53685592

Nope, Corwin tried to find Valeriya after she panicked due to Yeth houndness. What Corwin found The Vilderavn! What part in this does she play in this plot!?

Clearly she's behind all this.
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i thought this general was about pathfinder
not weird e-drama and nobodycares anime dnd with dog knot erp. Fuck off to a Discord
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>>53685556
I am a law abiding citizen

Realistically I actually despise PvP and PKing,
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>>53685451
>>53685517
>he knocked up the Priscilla expy
>the dumb fag gets my most coveted waifu and he's going to die before he even gets to enjoy it

IT'S
NOT
FAIR
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>>53685630
if anything this general exists to get people to stay the fuck away from pathfinder
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>>53685650
Its the most valuable thing we can do for the rest of the board.
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>>53685399
>Playing a literal yfw when too intelligent meme
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>>53685571
>ywn take one of Rory's fluffy-tailed kids out on a date to the park
>ywn have a polite family dinner with all of his dozens of fluffy-tailed kids
>ywn hang out on the family farm they open up
>mfw

>>53685632
Me too, anon, me too.
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>>53685597
Branwen got fucked by Kyras this session, and Antoinette walked in to see it!
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>>53685430
It'd definitely have an evil slant for obvious reasons, though any alignment could technically be accepted.

>>53685535
You'd be slavemasters.

It's an early idea but I'd want there to be raiding missions, management of the livestock, trading and breeding, etc.
Oh, and dealing with the outside competition in terrible ways.
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>>53685650
You may be onto something, didn't some newbie come here and get told to play 5e?
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>>53685650
i feel sickened reading over this shit.. just wanna talk about the gaeem mane
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>>53685597
Kyras is a bitch and he ain't my nigga.
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>>53685671
Yes, and its a good thing, its easier to learn than this garbage fire

>>53685672
whats there to talk about
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>>53685618
Don't they have history? Corwin x Valeriya could be really cute.
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>>53685672
Then do so you dolt, someone just got a shitton of help by asking the most basic questions possible.

>>53685671
Newbies are universally told to play 5e because 5e is literally branded as the game for newbies by WotC themselves, PF is simply overwhelming for people who are new to tabletop games in general instead of new to pathfinder. If you want to play pathfinder you best have at least basic experience with ttrpgs.
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>>53685672
All 5eg talks about is the game and its so fucking boring.
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>>53685689
Valimir or bust
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>>53685670
Any times?
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>>53685670
This sounds like a Zimar Corsairs campaign. Or Ulfen Vikings.
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>>53685697
WE
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>>53685679
Yo man black kniggas gotta stick together or all them daddy shits gonna pick get wit them hot witches you know what I'm sayin
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>>53685689
Oh certainly, and they do. Its just she's gone missing, Clearly she's been Abducted by The Vilderavn! Why does she wear the mask? WHAT DOES SHE HAVE TO HIDE!?!
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>>53685682
uh.. carrying capacity?
maybe.. the game?
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>>53685670
I'm down for this in a hard way. Stop teasing and post the damn pitch!

PLUNDER AND RAID
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>>53685701
Valimir was a thread meme, always had been and always will be. The fact nothing has happened after six months of campaign speaks volumes on how real that pairing actually is, haven't Seht and Onryou already hooked up?
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>>53685720
STR DUMPING MARTIALS ARE AN ABOMINATION.
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>>53685733
STRFAGS WHEN WILL THEY LEARN
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>>53685670
What if we want to play the slaves? Will you offer people a chance to NPC them?
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>>53685709
>>53685711
AYY YO
AYY YO
WHERE ALL THE WHITE ADVENTURER WIMMINZ AT
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>>53685733
dex melee > str melee
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>>53685731

Actually no, in fact the exact opposite has happened. They're actively being driven apart by attempts at causing them to get together.

The only surefire romance is Seht X Mori and Onryou X Aranha
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>>53685733
*takes deadly agility*

>>53685720
>carrying capacity
Bag of Holding
Saddlebags
Portable Hole
Handy Haversack
Tenser's Disk for loot transport
Nobody EVER uses carrying capacity.
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>>53685709
BELIEVE IN GRAVITY
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>>53685711
Nah, man, he a bitch knigga 'cuz he ain't tapped that witch ass yet, my man. No OG knigga gonna pass dat up. He deserves to get made a bitch for daddy shits, knigga.
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>>53685755
He did say we would deal with competition in very enjoyable ways
For us, that is
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>>53685756
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>>53685772
>>53685709
SPIRAL STAIRCASE
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guys i've got it..

i'll make third party pdf's and guides.. and sell them for $7.99
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Is this archetype any good?

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/bard/archetypes/paizo-bard-archetypes/silver-balladeer-bard-archetype/
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>>53685827

no
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>>53685827
It's not terrible, but that's only because Ancestral Weapon exists. You're probably better off taking a different archetype, though.
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>>53685755
I'll make sure to allow for it, though I don't think it'd be good to have them as PC's. We'll see. I have some details to hammer out and some irl issues to deal with then I'll post it, hopefully within a week, maybe two.
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GUYS GUYS, hold your shitposting for a second I have an Avowed question: Does the Split Loyalties Feat qualify you for Guardian Spirit, if you're an Esoteric Pact that feats into a different kind of pact?
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>>53685875
no
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>>53685870
Just make PC slaves top bitches.
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>>53685875
nope
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>>53685870
But I want to play a cocksleeve
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>>53685888
>>
so are all the games you faggots do from here text because you're all so socially awkward and cant portray a dog-knot with your voice???
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>>53685878
>>53685888
Bummer. Might bug Forrest about it anyway, but for now I guess I'll just have to rewrite a bunch of my JttW backstory. Again.
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>>53685870
Make a waiting room.
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>>53685899
Then play an elf.
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>>53685930
Not him but I don't understand waiting rooms
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>>53685925
I've been doing voice chat and IRL games long before text games. I just go with the flow really.
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>>53685927
I think it might work.
More of a GM thing.

Argent's taken Guardian Spirit on one of his builds before so he'll know what you're talking about.
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>>53685925
Pretty much yes
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>>53685899
You do know you can still be a slave mistress and eagerly use your studs as bedwarmers, or invite other masters to your bedroom where you either play the offered girls or the mistress herself.
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>>53685962
You do know you can still be a slave mistress and eagerly use your studs as bedwarmers, or invite other masters to your bedroom where you either play the offered girls or the mistress herself.

>>53685925
>so are all the games you faggots do from here text because you're all so socially awkward and cant portray a dog-knot with your voice???

:thinking:
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>>53685925
Yes. You play the way you are most comfortable, after all.
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>>53685925
I don't like people flirting with me on voice
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>>53685951
I...I have?
>>53685875
Poke me on Discord or Roll20 with what you want to do, it's probably fine.
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>>53685992
>>53685954
>>53685945

Where do I join?
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>>53686021
on roll20 fag
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>>53685845
>>53685847
Which Bard archetypes are better than vanilla, then?
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>>53685962
>You do know you can still be a slave mistress and eagerly use your studs as bedwarmers, or invite other masters to your bedroom where you either play the offered girls or the mistress herself.
That misses the entire point of being a slave, you're still in control in these scenarios. The slave fetish isn't about the sex it's about the position of being utterly helpless and dominated
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>>53686022
spoon-feed me the listing link
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>>53685925
Honestly, text makes for better roleplay when you're not intimately comfortable with the people you're playing with.
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>>53686023
Magician is one
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>>53685962
Now I suddenly want to play an Elf matriarch who loses patience with her idiot descendants and takes them all as slaves so she can breed a decent new generation
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>>53686030
There's like more than one game up.
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77201/essentia-forgotten-home
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/79068/journey-to-the-west
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77814/ensoulment-of-the-flower-court
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>>53685933
Elves are NOT for rape
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>>53685962
>You do know you can still be a slave mistress and eagerly use your studs as bedwarmers, or invite other masters to your bedroom where you either play the offered girls or the mistress herself.
That misses the entire point of being a slave, you're still in control in these scenarios. The slave fetish isn't about the sex it's about the position of being utterly helpless and dominated

Paizo Games General /pgg/
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>>53686014
Overlewd.
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>>53686050
you forgot chalice
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/78224/chronicles-of-the-golden-chalice

>>53686055
He's right you know
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>>53686059
Shitfuck, you're right, she did have that.
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>>53686050
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/78606/hells-saboteurs
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So, in conclusion.
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>>53686067
>random anon knows Argent's builds better than Argent
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>>53686014
I'm gonna wait until tomorrow, most likely, if only because I want to get a first draft of this trainwreck of a backstory out of the way before I attempt to tie mechanics to it.

Trying to stick to my 3 paragraph limit is hard. Especially with 3 named NPCs, one of which may end up being a cohort if I really want to fuck my own shit up
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>>53686091
Wow, look at this shaming faggot.

Who the fuck cares? What material harm is done?
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>>53686097
As expected of a drunken fa/tg/uy who spends his sober hours staring at spreadsheets.
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>>53684784
Why would I be mad when I'm laughing like crazy?
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>>53686131
That hits too close to home man
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>>53686118
:)
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>>53685134
Joke apps shouldn't even be thing frankly, I'd ban/delete that shit on sight if it were up to me.
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>>53686165
You're a joke app
>>
Fuck, actually, whats the ratio of would-be slaves to would-be slaveowners?
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>>53686165
That's why your games aren't popular, anon. It's the sign of a GM who is taking things too seriously to have fun.

Don't forget pathfinder is still a game!
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>>53686188
3:1 to 12:1 maybe? Sounds about right, there's a point where any extra slaves are just extraneous.
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Ah man.. all your backstories are so long and well written.

I stand no chance getting accepted as an adhd ridden dyslexic. Have fun guys

this is not a shit post
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>>53686188
I'd definitely want to be a slaveowner because that's the more interesting angle to play

But I'd still try and find a way to hardsub at times
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>>53686156
I was talking about Argentum, which I can do because I am him, haha

I love my job and all, but I need to see an eye doctor...
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>>53686198
Which app are you talking about?
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>>53686165
I appreciate joke apps just for the quick reads. I do think they need to be clearly labeled in public though, for all those anons that for some reason give a shit what other people want to play.
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>>53686224
Most of the ones in the Journey to the West listing
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>>53686220
Do you also make spreadsheets for fun like me?
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>>53686165
I don't mind joke apps I just want them to be labelled as such, both for reader's sake and for the GM's sake.

>>53686236
Yumiko, Mira, and Língmèng are currently the strongest ones imo
What's your take?
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>>53686251
Loke is a pretty strong app, despite the name
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>>53686191
>implying I DM
Joke is on you faggot.
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>>53686265
Between the four we already have a party I wanted handlebars undine;_;
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>>53686251
>All waifus
Or maybe you just have shit taste you thirsty nerd?
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>>53686251
>Implying my brain can handle reading all of that text.

I'm in love with Koji though from what I did read.
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>>53686251
Don't forget the Twin without her sister.
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>>53686269
Then your opinion on joke apps means nothing.
Nothing!
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>>53686285
>shit taste
What's wrong with any of those apps
Also
>waifu
Yumiko is literally used goods rapebait
Lingmeng is Reimu on full Jew mode which means she's more interested in your card than your cock
Mira I'll give but she's also literally a Princess Kaguya expy

>>53686299
True
Man fuck all the completed ones are pretty good desu
>>
Why do you advise each other? If you see a bad app, don't you want to let it fail?
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>>53685389
>>53685402
>>53685429
Post it, you memester!
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>>53686312
>If you see a bad app, don't you want to let it fail?
Because we're not shallow pricks
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>>53686312
Neutral evil speaking here.

It's assumed that people want to see each other succeed as well. Also, wouldn't you rather play with good apps than bad ones?
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>>53686312
Because I am bored with nothing else to do
Because helping others write good apps ultimately teaches myself how to write good apps
Because I want people to not be an absolute asshole to me when I ask for advice
Because ultimately, we want a fun and friendly thread, if we wanted to suffer we'd post on fucking /bant/ instead.
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>>53686332
>>53686327
and for the record I've been accused of being NG, so there
>>
So.. I cant write worth a shit and I dont like voice.
What do?
>>
Can you be Deceitful and Lawful at the same time?
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>>53686362
Join the cabal, make friends on discord.

Get into B-list games with connections.
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>>53686327
True True Neutral here.

I'd rather play with good players than good apps, and while prediction and writing doesn't necessarily indicate a good player, I prefer the odds on an applicant who carried themselves alone.

Addressing other apps is presumptious that you're better at it than they are, and it's counter-productive to improving ones own odds.
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>>53686362
Learn one or both. Or suffer.
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>>53686364
I mean that depends on what you mean by deceitful
There's nothing wrong with using Minor Image to misdirect people but making a promise with full intention to break it really is not Lawful behaviour.
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>>53686384
Unless of course you leave a loophole.
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>>53686369
Theres a Discord?
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>>53686251
Koji's backstory hits every single one of my narrative fetishes, and I fucking love a good walking bladecloud
Honestly, if I try to get back into /pfg/ games after a long hiatus, I'll have to use armorist for sure
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>>53686384
Is it unlawful to directly lie about a promise, knowing you intend to break it, and later do so?

If you make a promise you intend to keep and later change your mind, or even the reverse, isn't that even less lawful?
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>>53686394
In theory yes but playing by the letter, only, is tenously lawful at best. Yeah sure Devils will use it but even devils prefer having you sign on knowing full well what you're signing up for, and realizing in the end your reward just wasn't worth it, they do keep their agreement and don't worm around.

>>53686420
>If you make a promise you intend to keep and later change your mind, or even the reverse, isn't that even less lawful?
Not necessarily if it breaks another personal code of yours, or if circumstances change such that fulfilling the promise is simply no longer viable or possible. Lying about a promise with intent to break it isn't lawful.
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>>53686307
>tfw write an app for fun to flex writing brain and get in a fun-looking game
>tfw skim over a few Jap folktales about foxes
>tfw decide, hey, let's use Yokai Kitsune, DSP makes some good stuff and that's in it
>tfw decide to make a charisma build because those are supported
>tfw not a "celeb" or whatever the hell that is
>tfw not in the "cabal" or discord
>tfw the thread still latches onto my Mira
>tfw she's a "waifu"

why
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>>53686460
memes, young anon
he who controls the memes, controls the world
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>>53686471

okay

am i a meme?
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>>53686460
Welcome to the Internet

Home of the internet

What can I get ya?
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>>53686476
you are now
tread lightly lest you lose yourself in this madness
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>>53686460
Giant fox tits
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>>53686487
but i just wanted to play a fox magician

why is this general so weird

you give me a headache sometimes

im going to sleep

What the fuck is a Clock?
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>>53686507
Giant fox tits dude
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>>53686507
>cluck
Don't mind Rory, he's shit.
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>>53686460
>>53686471
>>53686476
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>>53686507
>What the fuck is a Clock?
The newest app's name translates directly to Clock in Chinese.
>>
What is DHB's JttW app gonna be?
>>
Ahh.

How do I go about learning to be good at text rp and writing backstories?
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>>53686500
>>53686510
is that why she is a waifu

do you all just like big boobs

is that it

>>53686520
who?

>>53686529
ok
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>>53686460
>>53686460
I'm gonna PM you so hard you won't be able to walk right for a week
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>>53686538
Yes that's literally it
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>>53686460
Congratulations!
You've learned first hand that all the memes about only cabal or celebs getting noticed were lies.

You just have to make good characters.
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>>53686534
Read books
Write books
Eat books

Just fucking good ol' hard and constant practice up the ass, with a healthy dose of talent and good taste to give you a head start. That's the only way forward.
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>>53686553
He made Alex too
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>>53686538
I mean i'm not dumb enough that tit ol biggies do it for me, but apparently its enough for some memesters
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>>53686553
This desu.

I was literally nobody until Ensoulment started.
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>>53686556


How do I practise text roleplay?
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>>53686542

im going to pray for you before i go to sleep

im praying for you anon

please sek help

>>53686553
k will do

for now i sleep

>>53686567
i might rewrite alex sometime soon im rereading it and fidning stuff i want to fix

>>53686572
thats okay we all have different tastes and your taste is also okay
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>>53686573
which app are you?
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>>53686575
Why anon, you FUCKING TEXT ROLEPLAY WITH PEOPLE IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE
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>>53686575
Ask a friend to play out a scene with you as your characters.
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>>53686567
>alexander and foxtits are the same guy

We've got an up and comer here boys, he'll be cabal in no time
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>>53686591
I am responsible for smugelf's daughter
and yes the memes are getting to me
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>>53686594
>>53686595

Listen gamers, i dont have any friends and ive never done it before ok?
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>>53686610
hmmm
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>>53686460
try it again with a shittier picture

watch as nobody cares
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>>53686610
desu I'm pretty sure people care about witch mainly because she's associated with C3, the resident queen app that aparently the entire thread thinks is getting in barring schedule concerns

>>53686624
People liked Alexander anyway
Sometimes the app is just good.
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>>53686610
Its ok anon just know that I hate witch and hope you don't get in. Ganbate!
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>>53686624
>Putting less effort into the presentation of your app makes your app be received worse

Who would have thought!
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>>53686642
Honestly I don't think C3 will get in, I don't think the autistic princess will find her compelling

I think Aurelia would be a sure thing if not for schedule, I think Rinta is very likely.
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>>53686617
Listen lad, I realize not everyone goes through what amounts to ten years of literal bard training while growing up, but that doesn't mean you can't pick up a manuscript from your favorite Shakespeare play and ask one of your old boot relatives to give it a go.
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>>53686642
I still have the feeling that the c3 memes are like three people or something. Kawase and a couple of people who want to bone c3
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>>53686617
Give /quest/ a shot. If they're going to be there anyway, use them.
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>>53686678
That's also a viable alternative if you don't want to be all pretentious and high-culture, I guess.
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>>53686663
>>53686669
Rinta is another sure in except for schedule. Kawase has actually kept saying he likes Rinta better on Discord so I don't know, maybe.
>Aurelia
I legitimately don't see why people put her on the same level as C3, Rinta, and Ceraphine.

>>53686666
Gigasatan speaks truth, cast off your shackles of the false God and pick up a Lucifer Cultist handbook, today.
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>tfw waiting for new thread to ask for character build advice after I left /pfg/ for a few months because I never ended up getting accepted to a game
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>>53686666
I sit down and drum my fingers on the table, presenting a lascivious towards Anon.

Is this good enough?
>>
>>53686663
The princess has actual, unironic, non-memetic clinical fucking autism doesn't she?
>>
>>53686693
Just ask now, what you want bby, I'm here for you.
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>>53686701
>lascivious what?
It's a start, you've got the words in you
Now you just need instinctive proofreading, third-person at all times, and do it over and over and over and over and over again.
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>>53686669
I mean she tops the polls along with the other two god apps every single time. Itsuko got a boost but is eh now jesus fucking christ poll autism really is a new low for us we can't even just talk about the characters we need to poll them for some sort of majority consensus
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>>53686690
People like Aurelia because she is literally a perfect waifu, but nonjokingly I personally just like the way the app is presented, I get a sense of drama and pizzaz from it knowing its the character speaking. She seems like a big personality.
>>53686705
yes.
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>>53686724
Shit I got so... enthralled in the spelling of lascivious I forgot to add smile.

Past or present tense?
>>
>>53683248
Anyone got the results for someone without gmail?
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>>53686708
Fine, but no bully.
I've never actually played a pf game, so all I've got is what little amount of rules autism carries over from my old reading and other editions
I'm thinkin about submitting to Journey just to get my creative juices flowing. How would I go about making this flaming kick monk?
>>
>>53686690
I don't think Aurelia is very compelling in her currently incomplete form, but to compare her to the other love freak Matheo who I do prefer on personal taste, I think Aurelia would be a better pick up aside from schedule.
She just opens up a lot of roleplaying space, and I think aside from just being a waifu, a lot of the love for her is a result of other people considering character interactions.

Similarly I think Rintaelle is the strongest app now even though I'd say C3 and Ceraphine look like stronger stand-alone characters. The space for interaction is huge.
>>
>>53686743
Depends on the situation. If you're writing anything longer than a paragraph where you are dictating the terms of all the action - a backstory, a anything at all that isn't interactive or a tense-specific segment - use past tense. Always.

In the heat of things, or when you're in text-only RP? Present tense, but it gets wonky easily. Use with caution.
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>>53686749
I'd recommend learning spheres of power and making one half of your character an Entropic Sage Hedgewitch, its literally built for flaming kicks and punches!

JttW is a hard submit because its LEVEL 10 GESTALT which is a hell of a tall order
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>>53686752
Honestly Aurelia doesn't need much added from my PoV, just a personality blurb would do it for me.
>>
>>53686752
Hmmm
I see your point
Personally I think C3 can easily have strong interactions too though, since she seems like the type that preaches to the lower life forms. Ceraphine's weird because most of her interactions, besides the whole "I want a good and caring husband" memery, is in her past.
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>>53686770
>past tense

reeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>53686774
I applied for dragons, rotjr, and hell's back when I was around, so I'm not too unfamiliar with gestalting
That being said, I've got literally zero SoO experience, given that my characters were an oracle/croupier and two PoW Martials
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>>53686786
See thats why I specifically like Aurelia's app

Does Aurelia's backstory really matter? No. All thats relevant to the character is she believes she's a reincarnated angel and she's searching for her reincarnated love. Does what Aurelia did before talking to the princess matter? No.
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>>53686786
I like how C3 has two apps directly connected to her now N P C INTERACTIONS
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>>53686788
Yes, you dolt. Literally the only time you use anything else in actual literature is when writing scripts. Unless you're some freaky avant-garde weirdo or a poet, you do NOT do that with anything else.
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>>53686786
C3 is my #2 pick, I think people overblow the issues with her. Her philosophy is really pretty accommodating to team play.

I've never liked Ceraphine quite as much as other people do. She's good from any technical perspective but she looks like a reactive character, which I think most parties need some of but makes for a tougher sell. I could probably start from C3 or Rintaelle and build an interesting party dynamic if I had to, but Ceraphine's really being sold on her writing.
>>
>>53686794
SoP is easy to learn, I recommend you do it! The best part of Hedgewitch is its VERY easy to gestalt, you can do basically anything, for JttW, I'd probably choose a full BAB initiator.
>>
>>53686807
Roleplaying real time text RP is a lot closer to writing a script than it is writing literature

Your actions should be happening in the present, current, not in the past
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>>53686798
That's exactly what makes her weak to me though, she seems too out of nowhere, I have no real bearing on her. With Rinta, C3, even Itsuko and Witch and whatnot, you got a sense of what kind of person this is, how it feels to interact with them, and so on, what they are beyond their philosophy and goals. With Auriela she's not a character at all beyond her whole "I love love" and "I love my reincarnated hubby" which is like, yeah it's nice and all but there's just so little else to her.
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>>53686812
Personally my favorite of the "top picks" is C3, but I don't really see the charm of the others. Rintaelle really clashes with the tone, and Aurelia is just clean celeb waifubait. She's not interesting in the least.
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>>53686833
>the tone
Well that's the thing innit? What IS the tone?
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>>53686820
Choose a Full BAB initiator and swap a discipline out for Elemental Flux! That way you can Flaming Kick while you Flaming Kick so you can burn your enemies while they're already on fire!
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>>53686829
Honestly, what Aurelia needs is a personality blurb, I don't need a backstory, I need insight into how she acts.
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>>53686841
IF THEY CHOOSE AURORA SOUL MYSTIC THEY CAN BE THE BEST AT FIREPUNCHING

EVER.
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>>53686828
And what did I say about text-only RP?
>Present tense, but it gets wonky easily. Use with caution.
Come now.
>>53686839
We won't know that until the game starts, but the fact of the matter is Rintaelle's tone is very different and off compared to almost every other app. I don't like it.
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>>53686849
>Eflux Steelfist Commando/Body Pact Avowed with aether channel and a fire modulation
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>>53686859
Personally I think someone legitimately a bit touched in the head is cool for this type of party but personal preference
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>>53686859
I can see where you're coming from but to be fair, there have been complaints about the philosophy and tone of a loooooot of apps.
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>>53686859
I think the question is
>does it clash irrepareably with C3, Ceraphine, Derrin, etc. aka the ones 'surely' in?
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>>53686820
>>53686841
I'm feeling warlord, because I think kickmastery would lend itself well to gambits. Does entropic sage use CHA, or will I have to swap?

>>53686849
>>53686865
I don't know anything about mystic either, but steelfist was one of my first thoughts when the character popped into my mind
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>>53686865
so many punching options.
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>>53686886
Entropic sage can use whatever mental you want!
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>>53686812
>I could probably start from C3 or Rintaelle and build an interesting party dynamic
Build your dream team anon, tell me!
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>>53686885
>muh celebs
cool story bro
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Fresh bread:
>>53686904
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>>53686833
Good waifubait though.
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>>53686896
Oooh
Thankee thankee, anon
I might have to look into avowed again because I vaguely remember the playtest being cool
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>>53686918
Avowed would be a cool option too! They'd be very similar I think but either could work!
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Consider the world where Ensoulment isn't around.

Other game shitposting has been on a six month low lately, OPs have mostly been page 8 and complaint free, and we're through the worst of mechanical sperg over 3pp and Starfinder.

Is the Ensoulmentless world just a crawling thread complaining that they can't make the JttW timeslot, or is it the /pgg/ you dreamed of?
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>>53686946
It's the one where antianime and normalfag posters start sperging out about their victory so it's terrible.
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>>53686946

A thread where I don't have to hear about the same garbage apps over and over would be nice. If I wanted to see circle jerking I'd just look at the discord.
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>>53687549
You can be the change you'd like to see, Anon. Start talking about less mentioned apps and their merit. Ask why certain apps chose this philosophy. It's not too hard to strike up discourse.
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