Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

first for the four armed emperor!

>>53671403
Second for the Grey Knight "Psychic Brotherhood".

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3rd for Sisters a QT!

>>53671441
Not only is that shitty anime fanart, the bitch in it also looks terrible.

Should I get 32mm base adapters for my Nobz?

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Posting from last thread for a bit more recommendations before I make my decision
Two questions for you anons:
Thinking of getting terrain and I have a few ideas. Should I go with
>Imperial Sector board and terrain, start expanding from there
>one of the AoS realm of battle boards, get a Garden of Morr or Sigmarite Mausoleum and start expanding from there
or possibly
>make my own board (even though I'm absolute shit at that) and get some GW terrain to put on that
Also, what could/should I use to make some kitbashed or proxy Tzeentch Chaos Spawn? Fitting in with my TS optional.
Thanks in advance!

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blood for the blood god
6 str 6 ap -1 attacks each soon

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>>53671389
Power Levels might actually be alright, but everyone is too much of a salty fag to even give it a chance.

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Are Raveners decent now?

>>53671441
8/10, would inquisitorial decree

>>53671458
>anime

Do you even know what anime looks like? Clearly not.

Another edtition, another terrible Vanquisher statline.

So /tg/, if you were in charge of stating the Vanquisher, what would you make it? Keeping in mind that, per lore, it would have to be better than Twin-Lascannons?

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>>53671458
What're you, fucking gay?

Since the last GSC focus happen. What did I miss?

Any rules leak, silly autistic meltdowns?

>>53671499
alright hear me out
Heavy.. Alright you keeping up with me?
Heavy.. 3.
d6 damage
S7
-3 AP

>>53671520
... are you being serious?

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Anyone play nids that can give me some pointers?

Plan on having the venomthrope in the middle of all of my infantry units giving enemy shooting -1 to hit

>>53671478
i love power level ! i don't have to do list building like a Waacfag to have a good army now i just pick what model i want

>>53671520
>Any rules leak
Almost every rule of 8th is in the OP
>silly autistic meltdowns?
lots of that, yes

>>53671520
We have all of the 8th edition rules, both maingame and subfaction, except for Forgeworld's indexes.

>>53671537
Was out in vacation, no way in hell I'm paying for data roaming or hotel internet.

>>53671520
Since all of the actual rules were leaked, only shitty normals have actually paid them any attention.

>>53671462
Build your own, going to cost literally hundreds less

>>53671560
Literally everything got leaked. Everything.

>>53671426
Ah yeah, obligatory "grey knights are repurposed GSC"

>>53671460
Why not? I expect a change of scale on the whole line of models

Who is the guy talking today and which match is planned over twitch?

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Are Nurgle Daemons any good in 8th edition? I'm thinking about making a small army (1k)

>>53671547
I can give normal sargents melee weapons without feeling guilty now

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What do you guys think it is?

I'm going to use power levels until Battlescribe gets updated. Played a 50 pl game the other day, seemed reasonably balanced.

>>53671582
I hope not, that sounds gross

>>53671621
your mom

>>53671636
It's almost certain it is going to happen. Marines and chaos marines first, of course, then I guess guards and orks, maybe eldar. Screencap this

>>53671621
a cloak or cape with a fur mantle

>>53671621
Lion.

>>53671656
probably Orks or Eldar next. Both due for new sculpts.

>>53671502
>bald borderline masculine looking women
>disliking this makes me gay
No thank you, faggotron. Go back to jacking it to traps.

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>>53671621
Lion El'Johnson.

>>53671478

I like power level too, but here's the conundrum-

There is a tournament at my local store. They decided to use power level instead of points.

I play Deathwatch. A unit of veterans is power level 9, which is more than tacticals, more than sternguard, more than whatever equivalent marine veterans.

How many upgrades do I give them so I h aven't cheated myself, but how many upgrades do I give them before I become "that guy?"

For example, I could run every dude with a combi-plasma and an inferno pistol if I felt like, adding 37 points per model. If I don't do that, if I just run them with their boltguns, I am being punished.

>>53671635
>We then took a second look at our lists. Though we both had power level 75, my list was about 1300 points, while his was well over 1700. Womp womp. So we play another game, trimming our lists down to only 1k points. This goes MUCH better.

>>53671547
>>53671618
what prevented you from doing that with points?
>inb4 'but points is only for the competitive'

>>53671528
Why would the tank hunter be a supermega-autocannon

>>53671671
That much is obvious, silly. What I'm asking is the question that comes with most rumor engines- what unit/model/etc. do you think the teased part will be coming from?
>>53671687
Oh shit, it's coming together now. I wouldn't be surprised if he actually did come out soon with that plus the most recent one.

>>53671686
>can't handle a real woman
top kek
>>53671700
idk you wanted it to be better than a lascannon and I made it slightly better than a lascannon in the most lazy way I could imagine

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>>53671621
One down two to go

>>53671621
>>53671687
Stormcast eternal.

>>53671621
>>53671687
To be honest it was always kinda obvious to me that Lion would be next
>Magnus: primarch of legion with blue armor
>Guilliman: primarch of legion with blue armor

>Mortarion: primarch of legion with green armor
>Lion; primarch of legion with green armor
It's like autistic pottery.

In keeping with the theme of guessing, what sort of points values do we think some of the Forgeworld stuff is going to roughly have?

For instance, I am guessing that the Storm Eagle hull is going to remain roughly similar to the current points cost, with a full loadout clocking in at about 400pts

>>53671677
Yeah, but guards too, and they're humans so the scale creep would be more evident.

>>53671693
get all the upgrades, yes its stupid, yes, that is why power levels are stupid.

>>53671697
because you feel like a fucking moron when your sarge dies without using his weapon and that's about 90% of games

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are conscripts the new unit to beat?

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>>53671687
>>53671621
Lion el Homo

>>53671686
It's not gay if they're wearing a dress. That's in the bible.

>>53671713
>"a real woman"
Real women certainly are not bald and certainly do not look like men, gaylord. You may as well play Dark Angels.

>>53671441
I love the SoS models, but that picture is garbage. I hate how that guy draws faces. Jarringly different to the rest of the picture and they always lack a soul.

>>53671478
5 tankbustas - 85 points, power level 4
5 lootas - 85 points, power level 8

H M M M

>>53671635
Honestly, I think I actually like Power Levels better than points by this point. Vehicles are so outrageously expensive that it takes a lot of the joy away from a mechanized list.

>>53671499
>+1 BS
>reroll wound rolls vs vehicles and monsters
>3d3 damage

How do I strip paint from resin without ruining it?

Apparently isoprop is no good.

>>53671693
take all the most expensive upgrades just to prove how fucking stupid power levels are

is the Ork starter set good value for starting orks?

How should you build your boys/nobz/deff dread?

>>53671746
I'm pretty sure this is the same retard who was spamming eldar pics from the same artist while sperging out about "muh cue tee waifus xD"

>>53671738
and you will feel less bad wasting 1 power point instead of 20pts (or whatever the real values are)?

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>>53671781
Eldar a QT !

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>>53671389
What is the most "It Aint Me" list I can run with which army?

>>53671771
>boyz
Choppy, not shooty.
>nobz
Choppy, not shooty.
>deff dred
Choppy, not shooty.

>>53671743
But priests wear robes.
Wait, am I onto something?

>>53671795
Catachan conscripts.

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>>53671793
They sure are, aren't they?

>>53671697
too much of a hassle to find the best weapons/ units with points without netlisting
non competitive games now don't need you to calculate how much you are fucked if you didn't took the best option on a battlesuit

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>>53671767
Yeah that will eat the primer too. Really any green floor cleaner apparently. Just stripped a thunderwolf with this stuff

>>53671748
I certainly don't mind playing power level. My Guard infantry squads get tons of stuff if you do power. Still I prefer points.

What army do play that is mechanized? And by mechanized do you mean you take all heavy support tanks or do you mean troops loaded up into transports with heavy support tanks?
>>53671781
I could see that.
>>53671793
Those faces creep me out every time. Soulless and lacking any personality. Like every face is them being drugged and looking at a bright light.

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>>53671710
Mortrion is next for sure, but after that Lionel seems like a certain bet. I mean, I could only see either him or maybe Russ being given honest consideration.
Sanguinius and Ferrus are deader than dead, Dorn is often just viewed as Guilliman 2.0 and nobody gives a shit about Khan and Corax.

>>53671771
Basically this >>53671801

But Shoota Boyz arent that bad and throwing a Scorcha on one of the Dreads arms helps it a lot.

I wish that 5th edition Ork vs Ultramarine box was still around, you got a huge boyz value on ebay while it was selling

>>53671814
And what about for aircav?

>>53671733
>that is why power levels are stupid

No, thats why using power levels in tournaments is stupid. Matched play rules are just fine for this.

>>53671499
>S10, AP-4, D6 Damage, if the rolled damage die is a 1 or 2, it becomes a 3

>>53671823
doesn't change the fact that you're fucked. You may be even more fucked as >>53671696 suggested (is that a quote from somewhere btw anon? If so, wher does it come from?)

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>>53671820
Yes.

>>53671844
Valkyries with door gunners.
If they run they are a chaos cultist. If they don't they are a well trained chaos cultist.

>>53671844
Ork Kommandos in a Chinork Warcopta

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>>53671870
So when's the part where you stop posting shitty fanart and start posting actual official GW art?

>>53671771
It's great.

Boys should be built with Shootas, but Sluggas are no longer a terrible choice.

Deff Dread should be built with Skorchas and Klaws.

Nobs should not be built, and should be sold on sprue on ebay to morons to get money back on the deal.

>>53671740
>>53671740
What's that Max Total Lasgun shots? I assume it's to represent FRFSRF, but I don't see any Commanders to issue said orders.

>Or commissars for that matter.

>>53671833
Mechanized Marines, lots of Razorbacks with Predator and Whirlwind support.

Also, Eldar looking soulless fits surprisingly well, though I'm sure this wasn't intentional.

>>53671621
A traitor.

>>53671890
Wonderful drag queen.

>>53671838
where is that image from?

>>53671890
shit taste

>magnus kicking the shit out of deathwing live on stream
>jim ross losing his shit, it's just a massacre out there
>magnus pulls a table out from under the ring, sets up unconscious belial on it
>climbs to top rope, poses
>JR is literally crying
>magnus prepares to flying elbowdrop belial
>SUDDENLY
>lion el johnson's entrance music kicks in

>>53671868
It's from a "first time trying out 8th battle report" on reddit

>>53671838
Khan is based

>>53671868
i don't care if i am fucked, if i am fucked it means i was a stupid strategist
i understand point for competitive because it's serious business but for open play ( or narrative for all i care ) power level is good enough

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>>53671724
> Angron: primarch of legion with red armor
> Sanginius: His armor is gold but his son is red so still counts.

>>53671795
Catachans in Valkyries for models. Use the Tempestor codex entries.

>>53671890
>Tfw the glorious god tier cat in that picture is associated with shit tier eldar

Fuck

Do we have a list builder for 8th ed yet? It's a ball ache to jump between costs.

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Critique my list please!

Not designed to be win-at-all-costs, but I want to make an armored list that has a chance. It's an all-armored guard (counter-meta) that focuses on Manticore rocket artillery to either win or lose the game in the first couple rounds of shooting. The storm eagle rockets carried by them is among the most destructive non-LoW weapons in the game. The tanks are designed to be highly mobile and press the enemy, dump a lot of firepower into hordes, overwatch with heavy flamers, etc. Bane wolf to search and destroy tough TEQ things while the enemy thinks Pask is the real threat.

TOTAL POINTS: 1997
6 Leman Russ Tanks
4 Manticore
1 Bane Wolf

SPEARHEAD DETACHMENT A - 1056

HQ - 271

Knight Commander Pask - 177
Demolisher Cannon - 40
Lascannon - 20
Plasma Cannon x2 - 30
Heavy Stubber - 4
271

FAST ATTACK - 105

Bane Wolf - 73
Chem Cannon - 15
Heavy Flamer - 17
105

HEAVY SUPPORT - 680

Leman Russ Tank - 132
Punisher Gatling Cannon - 20
Heavy Flamer x3 - 51
Heavy Stubber - 4
207

Leman Russ Tank - 132
Punisher Gatling Cannon - 20
Heavy Flamer x3 - 51
Heavy Stubber - 4
207

Manticore - 125
Heavy Bolter - 8
133

Manticore - 125
Heavy Bolter - 8
133

SPEARHEAD DETACHMENT B - 941

HQ - 261

Tank Commander - 167
Demolisher Cannon - 40
Lascannon - 20
Plasma Cannon x2 - 30
Heavy Stubber - 4
261

HEAVY SUPPORT - 680

Leman Russ Tank - 132
Punisher Gatling Cannon - 20
Heavy Flamer x3 - 51
Heavy Stubber - 4
207

Leman Russ Tank - 132
Punisher Gatling Cannon - 20
Heavy Flamer x3 - 51
Heavy Stubber - 4
207

Manticore - 125
Heavy Bolter - 8
133

Manticore - 125
Heavy Bolter - 8
133

>>53671905
Ah okay, I heard Rhinos can be up to like 100+ points. That's kind of ridiculous considering the point difference between Chimeras and Rhinos last edition, you'd think Rhinos would be at like 70 points now because Chimeras are 93. How many points are Razorbacks now?

I feel bad for the last guy I played who was just finishing up his Gladius force at the end of 7th. No way he can run that many Razobacks and Rhinos in this new edition outside of like a 4000 point game.

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>>53671890
>tfw you realize her hips are just an illusion that style of dress creates

>>53671919
this post is the reason we need a WWE 40k game

>>53671851
He did say it was for a tournament.

>>53671940
> Sanginius: His armor is gold but his son is red so still counts.

Forgetting the other Reds

>Lorgar, who will be the redeemed Primarch and his Word Bearers

>How does it feel to know Lorgar was right the entire time?

>>53671928
Sure, aside from Ferrus (who bowed out before he could be ruined too much) he's the one that got fucked the least by BL.
But tell me how many players care about White Scars or Khan in any relevant capacity. GW wants to sell that model and that doesn't happen with a barely-played chapter.

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>>53671890
Yvraine is pretty bangable by me and that art is from official card game.

>>53671977
Primarchs and Marines would finally be interesting if they were WWE 40k.

>>53671771
Hmm getting conflicting accounts.

10 choppa boys with Klaw Nob, deff dread with 3 klaws and a skorcha.

How do I build the nobz?

Also how best to transition to a 500 points list from this?

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>>53671910
I'm sorry, I just prefer it when my women don't have chins sharper than power swords

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>relaxing at local shop, thinking of picking up Magnus
>big, bald, and large bearded man walks talking about his Space Wolves with his Slaanesh playing twink friend
>he looks at some models for a little bit, looks over my shoulder and sees that I'm thinking about buying Magnus
>starts talking about 40k a little with me, seems friendly at first though a little weird and overly extroverted
>mentions things like some of his weird habits with his Slaanesh playing friend and more
>tells me he was thinking of buying Magnus to go sit with his small TS army that he uses specifically for rounds against himself so he can crush them with his SW army
>starts up more loud talking, butting into conversations and such with randoms in the store
>quickly buy Magnus and get out so he can't bully the poor primarch
Are all SW players like this? They're such a strange mix of behaviors.

>>53671693
You are literally playing in a tournament. Why would you gimp yourself by not taking free options?

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Tyranid a CUTE!

>>53671955
Rhinos are 72 base, and I think it only goes up to 80 with 2 storm bolters and a hunter-killer

>>53671979
We are going with the traitor - loyalist - traitor - loyalist parade.

Thoughts on my 8th Ed. 1500 list. This is also assuming that the stream is right so that a Custodes squad can be an HQ (and hopefully take a Warlord trait). Also a no detachment list.

HQ
Custodian Guard Squad
- 4 Guardian Spears
- 1 Sentinel Warblade + Storm Shield
- Warlord Traits: Tenacious Survivor

Troops
Custodian Guard Squad
- Custodes Vexilla
- 4 Guardian Spears
- 1 Sentinel Blade + Storm Shield

Elites
Venerable Contemptor Dreadnought
- Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon
- Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon
- Combi Bolter

Heavy Support
Venerable Land Raider (x2)
- 2 Twin Lascannons
- 1 Twin Heavy Bolter
- 1 Storm Bolter
- 1 Hunter Killer Missile

Total Coat: 1,470pts
Model Count: 13 Models

>>53672006
you just described most of the 40k fanbase.

>>53671890
Don't insult my wife.

>>53672010
But Emperor's Children is Purple / Pink.

Who will be their Loyal Counterpart?
>WHO?

>>53672000
Considering GW's superpowers make wooden ladles look positively vorpal by comparison, that'd mean only chinless women can apply.

>>53671955
It's only 72 if you stick with basic armaments.

>>53672008
that doesnt look very cute to me :s

>>53672036
>>53672009
Oh okay good. Someone told me wrong then. That sounds about what I had hoped they would be. Still pretty expensive for Marine players who were used to what, 35 points or free in Gladius?

>>53671940
world eater armour is white :^)

>>53672006
>tfw no slaaneshi playing twink bf

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Well my cute little 3 dude squads with 2 acolytes and 1 psyker is gone.
Guess I'll need to find some use for those 16 acolyte escort and 8 psykers.


Did they made DemonHost even worst? I didn't think it was possible.

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>>53671997
>official card game
The art from those are infamous for being hilariously inaccurate aren't they?
Also jesus those eyes are nightmare fuel

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Is a Death Guard half of the DI the best "points per $" deal right now? inb4 ebay - I mean brand new stuff
I'm looking for my first army and I have thought about Tau or Nurgle Daemons at first but DG new models look amazing and it seems that it is the most budget way to build a 1000 pts army

>>53672028
Please get off the internet my lord, we have more important things to do than shitposting on 4chan.

>>53671462

Make your own and add terrain. Are you wanting a bunch of details and shit? Or just a board? If you have any kind of wood supply store around you, you can get some cut 2x2 squares out of some thin material like mdf, and use that. It's what I do. Then buildings and terrain I base up on something thick and sturdy to keep permanent, then set it up wherever I need it. GW tables look cool, but I can't justify that cost.

>>53671986
It could be a strategy to push more diverse shit to the wave of new players they are probably expecting (and I think they will be getting). I honestly think it's the one that makes the most sense to come back and can have some character development (who BL would proceed to fuck up just like all the others).

Ottoman space empire allies with space mongols to battle space pagans including SW[/spoilers]

Now if only 1/3 of humankind could be traced back to Khan because he is that much of a pimp...

>>53671949
>want cat for my inquisitor
>only way to get cat is by buying an ugly model
feels real bad

>>53672030
I don't know, Russ ? Only because he's in the big 4 chapter.

How are Stormravens looking? Someone offered me one, just thinking whether it's worth going out of my way to get it or not

>>53671621
A cloak. With hair/fur mantle. Some chips in it mean it's worn. Archaon& chaos warriors have similar.

>>53672064
>>Did they made DemonHost even worst? I didn't think it was possible.
They look pretty good to me

>>53672105
and then they kiss

>>53671693

I'm assuming the tournament rules regarding models and upgrades are WYSIWYG? In which case, go wild?

>>53672076
"Why do I still live? What more do you want from me? I gave everything I had to you, to them. Look what they've made of our dream. This bloated, rotting carcass of an empire is driven not by reason and hope but by fear, hate and ignorance. Better that we had all burned in the fires of Horus' ambition than live to see this."

Poor guy.

>>53672087
I kinda want a lot of cool details and stuff. It's a much more expensive option, but I can't into making terrain right now since I am and always have been terrible so I was thinking of getting those, even with the cost. It would be nice to cut down the cost though, maybe I'll do that and just gradually get GW tables later on.

>>53672089
Are you me? The Fucking cat is glorious but I hate eldar

>>53672064
It seems that way. They got 3 wounds which is nice.

The whole random thing it's dumb, they should just be able to buy "equipment" like warp gaze or deamon talons.

>>53672061
" was " :^)

>>53672052
With a good gun a razorback is around 100, a las-pred is over 200. That really eats into ones points.
Still, better than Knights, who got way more costly to the point of usually having one less model when compared to before, i.e. 4 instead of 5 knights at 2k.

>>53672076
>>53672028

Guys, do I still have a job? I mean, with a Primarch around I'm not really sure what a chapter master is meant to be doing.

Guys I'm

>>53672128

oh, there are no rules beyond "50 power"

Forge world rules when?

>>53672173

I ate this guy, that's why he cut off mid post.

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>>53672027
Jesus, really? I guess I don't interact with enough people so it makes sense as to why I didn't know that before, I just didn't expect that.
>>53672063
Just interact with some of the Slaanesh players on here, I'm pretty sure most of them would be more than willing to give themselves to you in more ways than one.

>>53672052
And trukks went from 35 to minimum 82pts. Every single cheap transport went up in price (and survivability, and usefulness), just get used to it

>>53672061
And Thousand Sons were Red. But they're blue and that tied in with Ultramarines

>>53672173
>>53672192

It could be Candleja-*gets kidnapped*

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>>53671902
That's without FRFSRF, but I can calculate that for you.

When using Company Commanders each one using two orders to minimize replaced lasguns and keep total shooting output as high as possible, you essentially double the firing power.

>>53672171
it still is
just got some shit on top

>>53672173

If Dark Imperium is anything to go by, you're about to go Luther and start the next civil war

>Another subtle rebuke cloaked in kind words. Calgar bowed his head. Guilliman should not need to do this. Calgar should have managed the realm himself; having the primarch intervene was humiliating.

>>53672172
I hear that. Our Taurox Primes are basically the Guard Razorback. More guns, more cost. Our run from like 96-130. My Demolisher with Lascannon and Multi-Meltas Runs 232, so I feel you on it eating up points. Thankfully we have some nice infantry stuff to counter that, but honestly sometimes I just want to field a mechanized force and not have to slam down 100 models to move around.

Haven't played any games yet, but I hear everything is notably harder to kill. Not sure how true that is. The few bat reps I've seen vehicles die pretty fast still.
>>53672213
I'm slowly getting there. I'd get more used to it if I had games to play.

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>>53671740
>Tfw your lgs only play fully painted + based
>Tfw the kind of people pulling this shit are the same people who can't even paint a 10 man squad, let alone 1000 conscripts

Ain't worried.

>>53672249
That rule honestly solves most WAACfag issues.

>>53672232
Shooting Math:
1620 shots
534.6 hits
88.7 wounds
29.2 unsaved wounds per turn

1880 shots
620.4 hits
103.0 wounds
34.0 unsaved wounds

>>53672104
Pls respond

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From the Dark Imperium novel.

>>53672249
>>53672249
GUZMAAAAAA

>>53672249
I am in no way suggesting anyone should ever play this army I totally am because that would be fun to watch and funny as fuck but yeah, personally i think if someone is willing to paint hundreds and hundreds of conscripts, then in my opinion they've earned the right to do this.

>>53672269
KNIGHTS BTFO

>people complaining about more expensive vehicles

Have they not played games of 8 yet? Vehicles are more expensive, cuz they are much more durable.

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>>53672276
He's talking about the Tau

>>53672206
40k's fanbase is one basically the following.

>Fat smelly guys
They have no social skills, 40k autism
>Retards
They have no social skills, can barely count but like space marines
>Above average intelligence guys with poor social skills
They know enough to shower, can hold a conversation but aren't really functional. Think the classic 90's computer nerd, he's harmless but out of style.
>Old men with families
This is the holy grail of wargaming. They meet up in their garages, have a 4-6 people play group and have classic armies they've worked on for years. Cozy as fuck, good banter, good people but you will never ever find them because they don't talk to others about shit.

>>53672242
Ultramarine civil war? That'd be interesting.
#teamcalgar

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Waiting patiently for FW to release Death Korps rules or leak them

>>53672271
It's not /b/, at least wait an hour before bumping your shit.

>>53672232
So how is point and power level comparison in this scenario?

>>53672324
I have Rapiers I want to buy, gosh darn it.

>>53671740
Lel

I think conscripts are going to win a lot of games. Not by lasgunning down knights, but by just being to numerous to kill in a 6 turn game.

A lot of things struggle to kill more than a hand full a turn, and guard players can bring them by the bucket full.

Now that objectives are held by numbers guard can afford to just pit enough meat into the grinder that they can hold objectives.

>>53672192

Swarmlord, can you explain how Old One Eye is a viable army choice when he's a unique Cryptid native to a single world?

>>53671724
>Magnus: primarch of legion with blue armor
TS were red though

>>53672324
>Waiting patiently
Now practice doing it quietly.

>>53672365

Maybe billionaire thousand sons, but the union street ones are blue.

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>KDK verses Tau on the twitch channel right now

Take your bets folkes

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>>53672276
>smurfs confirmed for filthy xenos lovers
>exterminatus fucking when

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>>53672289
Oh sure, you put in the effort, hell yeah. especially if you fight someone's Tyranid or Boyz hoard, it'll be a good looking fight.

You dump a grey tide on the table? Nah take that weak shit home

>>53672283
It's ya boi here. Guzma's army of choice?

Deffskullz

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>>53671919
>>53671919
THIS WAS ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE A BRIEF SHITPOST BUT I WENT IN DEEP WITH 20 BILLION HOURS PAINT SKILLZ FOR QUALITY SHITPOST

>>53671687
it's from an elf kit you fucks

>>53672361

He uses webway portals.

>>53672359
yeah, those games are all going to revolve around "can we kill the commisar"?

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>>53672297
Knights got fucked enough by their new point costs, so pls no bully.

>>53672359
Guard will auto-win any objective game as long as they have commissars.

Now take a look at how many of the game types involve holding objectives.

>>53672390

The Custodes vs Guard game where the guard player took 6 tanks and a tech priest shows that it depends on whether one of the players has a stupid gimmick list.

>>53672289
That's my opinion too. After painting less than a hundred guard I've been burned out. I can imagine another 200+ more.

Maybe some really devoted tourney fags.

>Guys, do I still have a job?

Of course you do!

I'll have mine over easy.

>>53672390
If the tau player has any brains he has a good chance to win this one.

>>53672268
I agree, people who bandwagon armies leave them unpainted at my LGS because they're terrible at painting and intend to sell them off when the spotlight fades

>>53671389
So doing a small 500 point 8th ed game, whats a good list for tyranids?

>>53672390

KYTAN IS FOR FYTAN

>Why is it £5 cheaper than the Lord of Skulls though

>>53672359
This is why daisy chaining will be really important for Conscripts and Commissars.

>>53672359
>>53672439
>>53672419

Good, that is well fluffy

>>53672423
Knights have a power level greater than that of Magnus the Red, who can kill one from across the board in one turn

>>53672461
As many carnifeces as humanly possible.

>>53672407
Nice. I can get behind this.

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>>53671389
Real talk; Can the Tyranids be stopped or are there just too many of them? Also don't forget
>genestealer cults on terra

>>53672442
Who won?

>>53672419
Even without commissars, and double kills it's going to be hard to pay them if the table.

Even devoted infantry killers like a punisher Russ will be clearing less than 60points of conscripts a turn IF the commissar is dead. And all you antitank shit will be killing about 6 pts if you're lucky.

Can Eldar ally Imperials? That image with the eldars and stormtroops fighting together made me hard.

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>>53672407
>A FUCKING GAY POET
I like how a single line in this MS Paint tier comic managed to turn into its own mini meme

>>53672516
Custodes tabled IG if I remember well. I might be wrong on the tabling but they destroyed IG

>>53672524
>pay them if
Push them off

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>>53671389
Real talk; Can the Daemons be stopped or are there just too many of them? Also don't forget
>daemons in the palace

>>53672326
Yeah, bad form I know, but I'm in a bit of a hurry and posted just before a deluge

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>>53672318
>mfw I'm just an average 7/10 studying and working male
>Have girlfriend and basic social skills
>Playing warhammer with a vanilla casual army because I like the hobby aspect and lore
Most of guys playing 40k in my LGS are basically normies with enough spare time for a hobby "bigger" than mtg and few females we have are really... ordinary I think? You know - none of them is sweaty, stinky or obese. The only "typical" 40k player I have ever met was a LGS seller I never visited again

>>53672319
Well it's either civil war, Guilliman getting axed or Calgar becomes Starscream

>>53672483
True, but at least that is a unique model. Still, knights are now way overcosted both in powerlevel and points.
And the most fucked is the Gallant, who doesn't even get an additional attack for his two 30pts weapons.

>>53672563
looks okay, many dakka.
There ya go

>>53672104
It's pretty good.
High dakka, durable, and the only way to transport a Dreadnought in the Index (outside FW)

3D3 damage sounds fine to me. More consistent than the rail gun, but doesn't have the same killshot mechanic. Less max damage than the Onager Neutron Laser and the same minimum damage, but the vanquisher has the longer range and can take extra supplemental guns.

To keep up with the onager without surpassing it, I'd recommend a reroll vs toughness. That'll give the cannon a 75% success rate vs S8 armor, and the whole reason I like the Vanquisher is that it was a reliable penetrator.

No increase in BS, though. We got characters for that.

>>53671498
>Do you even know what anime looks like?

You mean to tell me it's not defined as "Thing I don't like"?

>>53672573
>Everyone is totally normal
This means you're all social retards but aren't aware enough to detect it

>>53672504
Going by older lore, tyranids cant be stopped, currently they are a MASSIVE threat but chaos has suddenly taken the front seat and NO ONE is worth anything compared to chaos now

>>53672549
There are probably less Daemons than there are Orks, Tyranids or even human beings. The number of them of course grows as their gods grow more powerful, but if Chaos starts wiping out humanity or the aliens wipe out most of humanity there will be less of them, as the gods will have to start pulling some of their daemons back into themselves to survive as they grow weaker.
In addition to this, Daemons require help to enter realspace outside of places where the barrier to the warp is thin, so even if you cant beat Daemons you can beat their friends and that beats the Daemons.

Daemons could win, but that doesn't mean they can't lose.

>>53672538
Well nuts. I wanted to do mechanized guard. This is discouraging. Did he have any troops at all? Or just tanks?


I'd be following the Battalion detachment requirements for my own army and be bringing at least 3 units of troops along - only id put them in a transport. And I'd being a wider variety of vehicles than just Leman Russes

>>53672536
it was meant to be

>>53672504
>>53672549
Real talk; Can the Eldar be stopped or are there just too few of them? Also don't forget
>harlequins in the palace

>>53672622
*being=Bring

>>53672497
for 500 points could this actually be worth while? I only have 1 + old one eye

R8 my army's lore

>Thousand Sons warband exiled at the same time as Ahriman
>Traveled around, looking for a purpose
>Remembered Ahriman's desire to reach the Black Library
>Researched the damn thing
>Found lots of notes about a "laughing god"
>Made contact with some Harlequins
>The Harlequins recruit the curious Thousand Sons in the Theater of the Laughing God
>Let them gain a little knowledge from the Black Library
>They see the glory of Cegorach
>They go and recruit exiles from other Chaos legions to grow in power and reach
They're called the Yellow Jesters

What happens when a unit get hits with a -ap weapon greater then their armor save? The dont get to roll the armor save right?
And i keep hearing neutron weapons are really good, what are the stats of those?

>>53672610
Or maybe well-adjusted individuals can enjoy a hobby?

>>53672646
kys

>>53672332
Power Levels? Let's take a look.

A unit of 50 Conscripts is 6 Power Levels.
A Company Commander is 3 Power Levels.

A Knight Crusader (best anti-conscript Knight) is 27 Power Levels.

You need one Commander per 2 Conscript units, thus for every 2 Conscript units plus Commander you are spending 15 Power Levels.

Equal numbers would be:

170 Conscripts and 2 Company Commanders - 27 PLs

1 Knight Crusader - 27 PLs
(keep in mind no matter what equipment you give this thing, it has the same Power Level)

*****

Comparing this to points? Lets make an anti-Conscript killing Knight.

Knight Crusader - 320
Avenger Gatling Cannon - 95
Rapid Fire Battle Cannon - 100
Heavy Stubber - 4
Heavy Stubber - 4
Ironstorm Missile Pod - 16
TOTAL: 539 points

And the Conscripts:
50 Concripts - 150
50 Conscripts - 150
50 Conscripts - 150
Company Commander - 30
TOTAL: 480 points

The minimum unit price of a new Conscript squad is 60 to get 20 guys. So we can't afford a fourth unit. We could get another Commander, to issue orders to the third unit, but seems pretty wasteful.

********

So if you play with Power Levels, you get an extra 20 Conscripts, essentially.

>>53672629
But Harlequins got wrecked in the palace you dummy.

>>53672642
Are you having a laugh?

>>53672659
Didn't 2 of them kill like a dozen custodies?

>>53672642
Just play ahriman's cabal already you wannabe

>>53672642
NothingPersonelKid/10

Fits into 40k universe nicely

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>>53672066

>official art
>inaccurate

>>53671547
I can field 15 death company for 30 power and give every single one a thunder hammer for no additional cost. Power is ridiculous.

>>53672646
Ap is a save modifer now

>>53672642
>Researched the damn thing
>forgettingyourlibrarycardintensifies,png

>>53672646
Works as follows: if a guy has a 5+ armour save and you hit him with a -2 or higher weapon he gets no armour save

>>53672647
....no... no I don't think that's right

>>53672646
>>53672699
Is there no 7+/8+ any more?

>>53672642
Mary Sue/10
>They read as Ahriman, but better!

What can be done:
>Why were they exiled?
>Why did they decide to go for the Black Library?
>Why did the Harlequins even assist them? That's fair OOC of them.

I could see a Thousand Sons band attempting to find a way to break Tzeentch's chains over them by going to other Gods

>Assuming the knowledge that Cegorach can rescue Harlequin's souls from Slaanesh is knowable in-universe.

Overall 3/10. Core concept can be salvageable, but you can do better.

>>53672681
It works both ways. Your opponent can bring a unit of rubrics with max warpflamers and delete your death company with overwatch.

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>>53672461
I'm taking this, just take whatever you want and you'll be fine desu

>>53672401
At what point as the game gone to far? I theorize it's the moment when somebody uses a dustpan to remove models from the table!

>>53672681
15 death company with thunderhammers = 30 power

A Knight they can kill in one turn is ~24-27 power.

>>53672423
Had a game where a Knight was still an indestructible killing machine to all of our various lascannons and land raiders.

>>53672646
Nope, no roll. Although I suppose you could, but no point rolling a dice that goes from 1-6 and hoping for a seven.

Neutron Lasers are one gun for one Admech tank, so not exactly as available as Plasma, but it's Heavy (the tank ignores the -1 BS from heavy weapons, too) BS3+ often rerolling ones and the stats are D3 shots S10 AP-4 D6 damage, count rolls of 1 and 2 damage as 3 instead.
Short of superheavy tanks, a whole bunch of Deepstriking melta and Deathstrikes I don't think there's anything that surpasses it, and it's also pretty tough, only 150 points and has 6 Bolter shots you can throw around just for a cherry on top.

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When a psyker uses Smite against an infantry squad, are d3 wounds spread out to multiple targets? Or does only one model take d3 mortal wounds?

>>53672407
Good effort

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>>53672232
How many to kill it in melee?

>>53672750
Shit, is there anything qt the same point level that could be ten man warpflamer squad. They are like eight or nine power, i think?

>>53672806
I wonder what the mortal wounds rule says on the matter

>>53672806
>communist tranny marine
She should be cosplaying as Tau instead.

>>53672622
You will find transports very lackluster for guard. The new "Move, Move, Move" order outclasses the speed of the transports for much less cost.

BUT!

Don't let that dissuade you. If there's one thing I've learned it's that if you try hard enough, any unit can find a roll.

>>53672806
Depends
Does it only inflict one hit? if its just 1 hit, then it only kills one guy
>>53672812
i was try, anon

>>53672806
It rolls over.

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>>53672637
Probably not

>>53672536
I will never apologise for enjoying tits.

>>53672783
*Vanquisher jealously intensifies*

3d3 damage and a reroll to wound. That's all I ask! It won't be as good as the laser over but it'll be good enough!

>>53672759
where do you make these?

>>53672873
https://www.reddit.com/r/cuckold

anyone got that picture of filthy frank with the caption roboute guilliman wakes up from stasis?
I need me those memes

>>53672813
That's a bit harder to calculate: how many can you get in base contact?

But with the fix bayonets order you should have 2 attacks per round.

>>53672318
Our GWS is full of rugged afterwork dudes covered in high vis and oil stains

>>53672813
A Knight has a base circumference of ~16"
That means given the new rules for combat, you can get ~35 Conscripts into close combat with it under ideal conditions.

If you put a Priest and an Officer in range, they have 140 close combat attacks per turn, assuming you order Fix Bayonets.

140 CC attacks
46.2 hits
7.3 wounds
2.43 unsaved wounds

>>53672828
They are 20 power for 15 if we were wanting them to match up with the DC, in numbers, anyway. That's 14d6 autohits at S4 AP-2, and d6 more at S3 AP-2. However, we could get up to 20 of them for 26 power total.

>>53672873
https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#!/rosterCreator
Working only for few factions right now

>>53672873
Link's in the OP but the list builder isn't near finished yet, a bit of patience is required

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>>53671614
Please talk me into daemons

>>53672681
power is for putting games together quickly, not planning armies around

Nobody should be assembling their armies based on armies constructed with power ratings. It's 100% for beer'n'pretzel play where two dudes bring what models with own and tally things up in an approximate way.

>>53672852

>Organic dreadnought spam can spam dreads at double the rate I can

Damn it.

>>53672886
all models within 1" of a friendly model in base contact can fight. as well as the model in base contact.

>>53672886
see
>>53672895

>>53672149
Isn't this entire situation from Fullmetal Alchemist?

>>53672921
No.

Fuck your heavy metal edge lord fantasies

>>53672759
I would drop the gaunts, put devourers on a number of termagants and get hive guard. They're fucking amazing.

>>53672921
bloodcrushers won't be as shitty I guess

>>53672970
But they are not Nurgle Anon

>>53672950
Yes, both versions of it.

>>53672749
Alright. Thanks! This was the kind of feedback I was looking for. I figured part of the reason Ahriman was having trouble accessing the Black Library was a combination of arrogance and refusal to ask for the assistance of the Harlequins. They were exiled for their deep interest in Ahriman's studies and the nature of the Rubric, as a precaution taken against repeating that fiasco. The Harlequins saw a situation similar to the Eldar at the time of Slaanesh, and saw a chance to spread the influence of Cegorach by recruiting from Chaos itself - severing their souls from the Dark Gods just as theirs were.

any uses for a vanilla leman russ with a battle cannon and a single heavy bolter?
already assembled and i cant fiddle too much with it now

>>53672921
You can use greenstuff to model breasts onto your plaguebearers and glaze them in your own cum. no one will notice.

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>>53672028
How much time until the Inquisition busts his ass for xenophilic acts?

>>53672891
This is mostly mine as well. Older guys, but some younger kids. The kids generally use the older guys as proxy dads and aren't that bad.

You get some spergs, obviously. Hell my store is like 3 vets who just live off their military retirement pay.

>>53672991
Unless if GUO are godly nurgle can be dropped entirely.

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>>53672950

>>53672642
I really like the general idea but there is no way in hell you're getting in to that fucking library. MAYBE a single person with consent which would probably come from them already knowing what would happen with that knowledge. Or maybe while doing something they run into the Harlequins and then shenanigans.

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>>53671838
>Nurgle Plague Marine Angel

Not gonna lie, that looks absolutely amazing if not twisted. Would have thought Slaanesh would have had the whole holy image before Papa but guess not.

>>53673064
Alright. The part about them getting in wasn't so important; it can easily be removed.

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>>53673025

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>>53672504
Seems the bugs are now Weak Vs. Chaos, and picked the wrong fucking galaxy to infest

>>53673067
Death is often depicted as having wings. There's also imagery of carrion birds, etc.

>>53671671
>a cloak or cape with a fur mantle
*gasp*

quick someone call PETA

>>53673109
this is and always will be the best example of how PETA are fucking mongoloids

>>53672852
>>53672637
Warrior and gant spam is much better honestly.

Kroot OP.

the fuck just the kroot do to those bloodletters lol

>>53673155
did more damage than 4 battlesuits and a broadside.

this is now the Age of Kroot

>>53673151
>>53673168
You guys know they fudge rolls right?

>>53673151
>>53673155
>>53673168
Being at work, could somebody tell me what just happened beyond Kroot doing something outrageous?

>>53673181
prove it

>emperor's children
>dedicated to perfection and beauty
>have the 2nd ugliest models and aesthetic of the 4 cult legions
Explain yourselves, Slaaneshfags

>>53673191
apparently a kroot unit almost devastated a bloodletter unit on the warhammer TV live stream

I've been gone since 5th, what the fuck are mortal wounds and is nob wound allocation cheese still present?

>>53673222
did they charge? since kroot can attack quite a fair amount

>>53673223
Read the rules. Link in the OP.

What's an easy way to make a Weirdboy with common Ork bitz?

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Im really happy with how my watch company is expanding. Started working on them in January. Soon as I finish my melee kill team and my Corvus ill have a full company.

Fyi Frag cannon+shotgun squads are hilarious in 8th edition overwatch. Also I will never not bring a librarian as psyker defense ever again. Smite is the absolute bane of deathwatch.

>>53673015
Battle Cannons are decent against single targets and they have great range. It's the 3rd best tank with Punisher up at the top and Demolisher next in line as it shits into the mouths of single targets.

>>53673192
have you ever done any math?

well, why don't you check the probability of their rolls.

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>>53673223
Bottom right.

>>53673260
Shotguns always looked like straight up horseshit to me, in both 7th and 8th

>>53673249
they shooted

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>>53673067
all the daemon primarchs have wins, but the whole winged reaper man image has always been mort's thing

>>53673260
>that DA terminator
Deathwatch really is a butchery of all the space marine chapters

>>53673214
Not our fault GW is allergic to the concept of actually sexually-suggestive-by-design miniatures these days

> Talk new player into buying Ork starter kit
> Look through Indexes later
> Painboy now Elite

Jason, if you're reading this, I'm sorry I sold you an incomplete army. I should've gone with the Space Marine one instead, since you liked Salamanders so much.

>>53673223
D weapons no longer exist, but because even shitty dudes can have multiple wounds, all weapons are now d weapons.

Mortal wounds roll over from model into the unit.

>>53673222
Bloodletters are T3. So Kroot are Wounding at least on a 4+.

>>53673260
Good for you, Anon
but what is going on with your Watch Master's head

>>53672852
Lotta fexes

>>53673264
It's 3rd best on account of the rest being fucking terrible. It's the leader of the scrub pack, not on the heels of the winners.

And I would argue that if you can keep a method of re-rolling 1s nearby a Executioner it vastly outstrips the Battlecannon

Scions are going to be so fucking good

Vanguard detachment +1cp

Tempestor Prime 40
+tempestus command rod 0

4x Tempestus Scions 4x9
+4x plasma guns 4x7

4x Tempestus Scions 4x9
+4x plasma guns 4x7

4x Tempestus Scions 4x9
+4x plasma guns 4x7

4x Tempestus Scions 4x9
+4x plasma guns 4x7

10x Tempestus Scions 10x9
+4x hotshot volley guns 4x9
+6x hotshot lasguns 6x1

10x Tempestus Scions 10x9
+4x hotshot volley guns 4x9
+6x hotshot lasguns 6x1

10x Tempestus Scions 10x9
+4x hotshot volley guns 4x9
+6x hotshot lasguns 6x1

5x Taurox Prime 5x60
+5x taurox gatling cannon 5x18
+10x hotshot volley gun 10x9

Spearhead detachment +1cp

Tempestor Prime 40
+tempestus command rod 0

4x Manticore 4x125
+4x h.bolter 4x8

1744pts 5cp

All the tempestors, scions and command squads are deployed with deep strike, manticores can support them wherever they strike and the tauroxes can reach almost every part of the battlefield and lay down supporting fire even from the first turn. Big alpha strike then mop up what's left

>>53673304
look man, whatever you say

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>>53673290
> Magnus is a literally neckbeard.

>>53673321

> Top 10 lists that will never actually be built or played.

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Did the frontline gaming stream or any other source clarify how the "swipe mode" of this weapon works?
Do i make Three times my attack value (getting 18 attacks while at full healt) or do i roll three times for each attack?

>>53673252
You're asking how to do an Ork conversion? C'mon man, those are the most forgiving of all conversions. Take a boy, build him a staff, add bones and tribal looking bits. Paint his eyes glowy green.

>>53673286
Now that you can assault with rapid fire, the special ammo boltguns are almost certainly better in all scenarios, but there's something magical about dumping 14d6 shots.

Im actually looking forward to putting a biker in my melee squad now that they can fall back and charge. The jump packs giving fall back and shoot is pretty rad too. All my teams have terminators so I'm painting up teleport homers.