What would you rate this armor?

>>53664649
6/10 helmets.
Exposed groin area.

>>53664649
Hot.

I like the lacy garters and the shouting lettuce people decorations

>>53664649
Gonna get stabbed in the vag/10

Assuming their is a helmet it's OK except you need another skirt plate for the groin. Armpit joint seems a bit too large but that is always a weakness for plate armor. Overall functional female armor.

>>53664665
>>53664745
Yeah, definitely needs to add a chain skirt at the very least.

>>53664649
Purely ornamental/10

Looks nice tho

>>53664665
>>53664745
But what if she's a Cavalier and its done this way for more comfort for those long rides if you know what I mean

Eh, I like it. I like simple but ornamental armor in general, but it's also nice when the armor itself or its ornamentation is a bit thicker like this, rather than looking like dull sheet metal. No a huge fan of the colourization, but I could literally change that in 20 seconds in Photoshop.

Too obvious why the crotch isn't covered up, otherwise cute/10

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Pretty much advanced chick plate.

The lack of chainmail or any other form of protection other than lewdcloth(leather?) in the groin, upper leg (front and back) and upper arm is disturbing and upsets me.

Pretty much begging for femoral artery severance, not to mention if a blade found its way under the arm ever a simple pull up and draw back slice would render that arm pretty much fucked.

metal lingerie/10

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>>53664649
That armour's only appropriate for mounted combat.

If she doesn't have a mount to ride, then she needs to change.

In addition, she needs to lose the hairclip and replace it with a helmet.

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>>53664844
Who's the one on the right and why does she look like the Roseblack from Exalted?

>>53664867
Titania from Fire Emblem.

Pretty good, I mean, who would stab a girl in the crotch?

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>>53664928
Wouldn't that be redundant? They've already got a gash there.

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>>53664953
And it's not like they're not used to bleeding from it.

>>53664916
>Not having one guard's pauldron on the left shoulder and the other's on the right.
>Not giving one a fire-themed magical sword and the other an ice-themed one
>Not having them fuse together when they're outmatched into a powerful two-pauldroned form that dual-wields the fire and ice swords as a gestalt character

Wasted opportunity.

>>53664928
You want to have something to protect you in case of crotch stabbage, you never know what can happen in the heat of battle
>>53664953
>>53664966
OH U

>>53664928
There's no mercy on the battlefield, anon.

>>53664953
>sallet with kitty ears

>>53665029
I think it's super cute in a very mundane, utilitarian sort of way.

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>>53664992

They can wield the same sort of weapon but with different stances

>>53664928
Protection isn't just against strikes. Ride a horse for long enough, or just fall all awkward like, and hurt yourself. Shrapnel and rogue projectiles are issues too.

Same reason modern soldiers wear helmets that can't reliably protect against a lot of firearms. If your job involves running around in dangerous places, it's nice to wear a cup.

>>53664665
>>53664745
>>53664778
Yeah it's fucking garbage. You'd be killed so quickly wearing this.

>>53664649
femoral artery/10

>>53664992
I love Agni and Rudra.

>>53664795
The only thing I know is you've never ridden a horse, particularly not over long distances.

>>53664649
Thanks doc / 10.

>>53664649
When will the meme that people become 100% un-identifiable when they put on any sort of helmet die?

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>>53664649
What I find most pathetic is the little pseudo-intellectual nerd fuckboys who think they're smart and totally perceptive for pointing out deisgn flaws in stupid gaudy armour. Like you want to make it clear to all your peers "I'm the smart one. I am the intellectual one. I understand combat and value logic above all" and you go on nitpicking this stupid shit that is made purely for the fuck of it. The overwhelming irony of it all is that you're the biggest motherfucking retard alive for actually believing you're the only one who can perceive the stratigic faults of these designs and thinking other people aren't as perceptive as you. here's a reality check you fucking cock wrangler. Everyone is aware of these things. They don't spend hours whining about it on image boards and forums and fucking youtube comment sections. Not because they're stupid, uneducated or unperceptive. It's because it's insignificant shit, and they aren't insecure enough to go whine about trivial realism bullshit in cheap, flashy entertainment. You're like the fuckwit that whines about people not knowing how bad fast food is for them because they continue to eat it. They know it's bad. They don't give a shit. You whiny little faggot.

>>53665732
Calm down nigga like damn nigga just ignore the thread like haha nigga no need to be mad lmao

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How about these guys?

>>53665097
I like the air holes on it too.

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>>53665732
who hurt you?

>>53665849
Where the fuck are their helmets/10
bitch on the right gonna die nigga/10
That goat/10

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>>53665732
Chill out bro, what's wrong with wanting a girl to be properly suited up for battle? Armor should be cute AND functional, one shouldn't sacrifice for the other.

>>53665732
Where did the historians touch you anon?

>>53665849
girl on the right is hot but I will always go for the paladin/cleric types. Plus she's a red head.

>>53664649
Better then most fantasy armor. Biggest problems:
>No helmet
>Brestplate is incorrect
>Exposed groin
>Under armor and frills are suspect

>>53665059
Waifu/10

>>53664649
Too top heavy.
The top is highly protected but you have a massive gap in protection in the crotch

>>53664649
Needs chainmail around the groin, knee and underarms. No codpiece or anything so I'm assuming cavalry, but you still want at least something there in case someone gets lucky or you end up dismounted.

Also helmet. I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt on that. Hair is very long but you can accomplish some crazy shit with braids, so why not.

8/10, on the one hand there's a big weak point but on the other hand everything except that weak point is plate, and if she's on a horse then that weak point gets a lot smaller. I sure as hell wouldn't want to fight her.

>>53665849
>light and fasionable but probably going to get dirty, not worth shit as armour but it's a crossbowman so who cares/10
>get a fucking helmet, otherwise fine, not even sure you need those wristguards with that shield/10
>non-combat/10
>cyborg goat/10
>get a fucking helmet, otherwise very nice, joints seem covered/10
>wizard-ass bitch, those crazy motherfuckers can't be trusted, probably enchanted or some shit, kill immediately before she harvests your organs/10

>>53664649
Aside from the things other people have pointed out, all those useless ornaments need to hug the body harder. In plate vs plate combat you will often have to disarm your enemy/slip past his sword and stab him with a dagger because swords don't break armor, and in close quaters combat all those easily grabbable ornaments are going to be your demise, because you pretty much give your enemy fucking handles to manipulate you and jank daggers into. They are deadly to yourself for the same reason as horns or wings on a helmet, if you fight outside of formation, someone is just going to use them to pull you down and take you out as you lie on the ground like a turtle on it's back.

If they are reduced in profile enough not to be grabable and don't present an avenue a dagger just has to follow to fuck you up, then they become an advantage because then blades can get stuck on them and give you leverage to disarm enemies.

All of that is even more severe considering she does not wear chain underneath any of those gaps, and, this being a riding armor, presents ample opportunity for enemies to pull you out of the saddle.

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>>53665849
I'm kind of wondering what the skillsets of greenhair shortstack and BDSM enthusiast are

Pretty clear that we have a marksman, mace n' shield fighter, and a heavyset armored brawler.

Mecha Goat seems like the type of creature that can fuel its own mechanical leg by grazing, and on further inspection Ms. Leatherclad has what might be a spellbook at her side. Or its a diary filled with bad slam poetry and she joined this party in the secret hope of getting captured by orcs

>>53666558
Short one is probably an alchemist or other kind of material-based wizard. Her clothes are covered in green stains and she's got a big scroll on which to write recipes.

Pale one is an edgy mage. Book, ceremonial knife, goofy fashion sense, it all fits together.

>>53666558
Shortstack is a druid or alchemist. She's got scrolls, a vial of something, and green stains on her pants. The goat is her animal companion / mount.

Leatherlady is a rogue / wizard hybrid class. She's got a beatstick and a dagger, but she's also toting a tome and a quiver full of wands and staves. And she's clearly not planning on facetanking anything.

>>53664649
Frigid prude.

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>>53664649
Looks cool. 8/10. I don't give a shit about realism but I always like to see women in armor that isn't designed to be too overtly sexy, like boob plate or bikini mail. To me it's not a question of practicality, but style preference.

>>53664795
Chain.
Skirt.

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>>53666647
>clearly not planning on facetanking anything.
Are you so certain?

>>53665674
>When will the meme that people become 100% un-identifiable when they put on any sort of helmet die?

The problem with helmets is that they look dorky as fuck. You can't have your main characters wearing dorky clothing.

It's like in CP2020. One headshot from anything will instagib you, but despite that nobody ever armors their head because it's more important to look good than to live.

>>53664649
I'd rate it eggplant.

>>53664649

Extremely unrealistic, it has a woman inside it.

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>>53664649
Below the male version because no helmet.

>>53666892
That's some resplendent-ass armor.

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>>53665732
Some people just really get off to being as 'realistic' as possible when it comes to fantasy. It comes up in a lot of discussions, but whereas you might see it as obnoxious know-it-all behavior, I just see it as anons enjoying themselves. I don't get the realism wanking but maybe it's not for me to get. Everyone has their own idea of fun. Different strokes for different folks, right?

>>53666756
this.
girls in well designed plate armour are so cool but people just think I whack it to them. Dammit there is a difference between liking armour design and waifus, although Joan de Arc is definantly one.

>>53664649
>rape-me-armour

too bad I'm into paizuri

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>>53666959
Got to style all over these knaves.

>>53666868
>The problem with helmets is that they look dorky as fuck.
opinion discarded.

>>53666959
I'd prefer some resplendent ass-armor if you know what I mean

>>53667027
How did I know someone was going to make that joke.

>>53664649
5+

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>>53666977
I read somewhere that Mark Twain waifu'd the shit outta Joan of Arc. Like, if body pillows had been a thing back in the 1800's, he'd have had several.

>>53664649
>>53666892
The game these images come from seems really eclectic is an odd sort of way. I'll have to do some more research, but it looks like it could be fun since I already have a 3DS anyhow.

>>53667009

That's literally the reason 90% of fantasy art leaves the helmets out even though it's the single most important piece of armor. They don't look cool.

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>>53665732

10/10 made me read the whole shitpost.
Nice pasta anon, quess we're going to see more of that reposted around, thanks.

>>53664649
Seems decent, the only problems are exposed groin area, no helmet and slightly oversized pauldrons. So 7/10

>>53666868
>having taste this bad

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>female
>armor
lol
Casca is the only one who can pull it off

>>53667139
I dunno, Griffith didn't seem to have much trouble pulling her armour off

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>>53667188

>>53667139

Griffith had no trouble pulling it off

>>53667188
>>53667218
>>53667220
MOOOOOODDDDSSS DELETE THIS FILTH RIGHT NOW

>>53667098
you keep saying it but its still not true. Why do you think people latched onto stormtroopers and helghast so much?

>>53666962
Why is his sword a dick?

>>53667262

See I get your point and you're right but Stormtroopers are a faceless legion. That's cool as hell and everything but when trying to talk about a player character you want something a bit more personable.

Granted a lot popular masked characters exist but never really as a group, darth vader is cool because he's the only one

Bobba fett was never cool

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>>53667324
It's historically accurate

>>53667188
Rekt.

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How would you rate this armor?

>>53667139
Why settle for some low rent merc when you can have a Holy Knight?

>>53667402

Don't want to cuck my horse

>>53667402
Casca could kill fatness in over 300 ways and that's just with her bear hands

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>>53667262
>>53667332
The reason is that "heroism" in our modern society is associated with individualism and a lack of conformity. Heroes are those who stand out, who do what others will not, and who go further than others will go, often further than they CAN go.

The imagery of the Helghast, the Stormtroopers, the Roman Legion, the VDV, the Redcoats, the SS, these images evoke a different kind of power from that of individualistic heroism. It is a far older power, the power of conformity and unity that is largely alien to us today, and thus uniformly sinister. This is part of the reason why villains are always uniform--what is left unspoken is that it is also why everyone loves the villains' aesthetics. Because the imagery of uniforms oozes power and domination. Its allure borders on the sexual. A society that embraces uniformity and power will always be more aesthetic than one which embraces individuality and liberty, that is a natural consequences of our tiny monkey brains' thirst for control over our environment.

>>53667476

yeah but even from a simple point of empathy it's easier to care about a single face than a hundred unknowns

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>>53667402
I don't know what's more ornamental: that armor or the woman underneath it.

>>53667697

he I prefer brunettes

>>53667697
>No helmet
>No gorget
soon to be noead

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Heave some read head

(curse the typo)

>>53667737
They are also acceptable

>>53664649
I would rate it U

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>>53667749
>Heave some read head

you where right the first time

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>>53664867
Wow that looks familiar...

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>>53667842
Its moments like these that I regret my lack of sleep

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Let's play Find the female

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>>53664699
>shouting lettuce

>>53667916

It's you innit? bitch.

>>53667525

It's also easy shorthand for "this character is important and you should pay attention to what they do;" without some sort of marker it can be easy to lose track of which characters matter in a large or chaotic scene. Look at the image in >>53667476, you can immediate tell who's the important character whose actions will be relevant to the scene or plot. Now obviously you could use a different method of visually identifying the key characters, such as an alternative color scheme or helmet, but that requires more costume design work, and for live action productions you already have the actors face which you may have paid a significant sum to use, so might as well use it (and as you said it's easier emphasize and get a better feel for the performance, rather than just relying on audio cues).

Of course if the scene is simple enough or the individuals are irrelevant then you can forgo this. For instance, in the opening scene of Star Wars the important part is that the stormtroopers are blasting open the door and boarding the ship; the specifics of which stormtrooper exploded the door or which one was first through are irrelevant to the scene and overall narrative.

>>53667916
third from the right

>>53667916
The one in yellow and the one in white for sure.

>>53668033
>>53668058
Nope. Fourth from the right.

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How about this?

>>53664649
realismfags will shoot down everything that wasnt established equipment.

from a fictional standpoint, It's actualy top-tier in practicality

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>>53667139
Huh

>>53668137

THE WALL!

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>>53667188
You animal!

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>>53668171
It's worth noting Apollonia eventually ends up like this.

>>53668294
When she gets captured, but she gets her armor back

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Armour is for self conscious little girls without any breasts

>>53668294
Laaame.

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>>53668294
Aw phooey.

>>53668316
Thank goodness. Why must cheesecake rob me of so many cool armor girls?

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I like this armor.

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>>53668408
Looks better without the gold, though.

>>53664649
>4/10
>bare upper thighs

I don't give half a fuck how people want to justify it. Anything less then full legging plate on women screams "long boots" at my autism. Otherwise it's fantastic, chunky enough in all the right ways

>>53664795
Just pull the chain skirt up when you're riding and freely enjoy you seat clit stimulation without danger of being clit-stabbed.

>>53667916
The ones watching men do stuff safely far away.

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>>53664649
>no gambeson or/and mail under the plate
>plate stockings lmao
>heels
>groin area not protected at all
>overdecorated legplate
>huge overdecorated gloves abd pauldrons
>no helmet
>long hair
9/10 would totally rape after capturing

>>53664649
7/10, gonna mildly trigger HEMAfags

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>>53664649
>uncovered tights
>REEEEEEE

>>53665732
I like you.

>>53665849
All good except for that chick on the far right.

FUCKING CYBORG GOAT

>>53664649
Decent assuming she's fighting mounted and puts a helmet on.

Could it be more practical? Totally, but it's pretty well in the realm of actual armor (except the lace fringes but they don't actually hurt anything)

>>53664844
>Elincia is only good for healing
Maybe in Path of Radiance. Radiant Dawn, dequip and dispose of that 'mercy' nonsense and watch her slaughter everything that's not a crossbow.

Titania's cooler though.

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>>53670201
She's missing a part of it, and worse, seems to be wearing her plate and small mail segments directly over bare skin.

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>>53665732
who kicked you out of your magical realm? did it hurt?

>>53670239
veryreal/fantasy . cant tell if thats an open face helmet, bonus points if it is.

>>53670239
10/10, waifu material.

>>53664649
10/10 I do love armor that's closer to practicality.

>>53666868

Dark Souls proves you wrong.

>>53665732

Agreed. Its just nerds trying to assert dominence on the internet.

IM AN EXPERT IM IMPORTANT LISTEN TO MEEEEEE

Why does everyone assume the upper leg in the OP is totally unprotected? Looking at the heavy stitching there, my first thought was medium to heavy thickness leather.

Obviously its not invulnerable, but neither is plate. As others have pointed out its more comfortable for mounted combat, but it also leaves you somewhat more mobile on foot.

Think of it as trading -1 armor for +2 max dex bonus.

>>53670475
>this is what too much /tg/ does to you

>>53670274
From the looks of it, it probably has a faceplate that you can flip up.

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>>53665849
Objectively superior party.

>>53665732
>>53664649 (OP)
What I find most pathetic is the little pseudo-intellectual nerd fuckboys who think they're smart and totally perceptive for pointing out deisgn flaws in stupid gaudy armour. Like you want to make it clear to all your peers "I'm the smart one. I am the intellectual one. I understand combat and value logic above all" and you go on nitpicking this stupid shit that is made purely for the fuck of it. The overwhelming irony of it all is that you're the biggest motherfucking retard alive for actually believing you're the only one who can perceive the stratigic faults of these designs and thinking other people aren't as perceptive as you. here's a reality check you fucking cock wrangler. Everyone is aware of these things. They don't spend hours whining about it on image boards and forums and fucking youtube comment sections. Not because they're stupid, uneducated or unperceptive. It's because it's insignificant shit, and they aren't insecure enough to go whine about trivial realism bullshit in cheap, flashy entertainment. You're like the fuckwit that whines about people not knowing how bad fast food is for them because they continue to eat it. They know it's bad. They don't give a shit. You whiny little faggot.

>>53668366
>Armour is for self conscious little girls without any breasts
this

>>53669384
>those sandals
how the hell do you fight in open toed shoes?
you are literally better off tempering the soles of your feet to not wear shoes at all.

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>>53670369
>Dark Souls proves

>>53664649

>ok, from a perspective of an actual plate wearer, and not that shit larp plate either.

Most important question: how do the cuisses stay up?

There's no arming doublet for her to tie the cuisses to, and no visible arming points or straps holding them up. Rigging upper thigh protection in a manner that doesn't either rip out from whatever it's tied to or - in the case of pourpoints - hugely restrict your shoulder motion is by far the most difficult part of actually wearing plate.

Otherwise, while the armor is clearly fetish-bait, it's not completely terrible. In practice, it's much harder to deliver a thrust to the unprotected torso/leg areas than you think it is, and she's got tassets to protect the sides of her legs from a cut.

The arm cannons and couters are fine, and the lack of helmet is fine for what is clearly intended as a character portrait; the point of a which is to see the face, and having a closed helm defeats that purpose. Shoulder protection is weird and probably needs more lames to give good mobility, but it's within the realm of reason and is much better than the GIANT PAULDRONS memery. The gorget is outright bad, it's going to be hideously uncomfortable to the underside of her chin. Finger gauntlets are fine, and the reinforcement leads me to think that she knows that the hands get hit a lot, which actually increases my respect. Knee protection is unconventional, but I see no reason why it wouldn't actually function; it's just inefficient. Greaves and sabatons are fine, and while there's *likely* heels there, I can't tell from the angle and so I won't complain about it. Clearly, it's intended for mounted combat primarily, but an unprotected groin/upper thigh isn't an *automatic* death sentence either and she'd still be in the top 5% in armor protection on most battlefields (helm aside).

Overall, not completely "realistic", but not terrible either. For a PC portrait, it's fine in any setting short of WFRP or ASoIAF.

>>53670213
Easy mistake to make since she's retarded

>>53666558
And I'm kind of wondering why the Indian chick has a long scroll.

>>53664649
6 damage reduction everywhere except groin and head

>>53665732
Yeah, but have you tried not being garbage?

>>53667324
All swords are dicks.

>>53671859
That looks like it's going to chafe like a bitch.

And also offer zero protection.

>>53668137
>>53668137
why were the Suikoden games' casts so uncharacteristically well rounded by JRPG standards?

>>53671918
>Suikoden
She's from Fire Emblem, though.

>>53667081
Nibba, you must play it. The game made me question human condition and gave me amazing ideas for villains and BBEGs. Also, the soundtrack is really neat.

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I legit love the armor designs in Fire Emblem. They're ridiculously fantastical but are still well-designed enough to look like they offer protection, save for a few weird design choices(the most egregious one being having random gaps of exposed flesh)

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>>53672996
I totally agree, >>53673090
being my personal favorite. I just love how the armor look so ridiculously massive until you remove the shoulder-sections.

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>>53669384
>face exposed
>forearms completely uncovered
>battle skirt
>fucking neet sandals
>huge shield made of flimsy wood
>thin spear would break instantly

What kind of retard designs this shit? This guy wouldn't last ten seconds in actual combat.

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>>53673136


>>53673140
Yeah, the heavy armor is unique. It feels like some armorer would have actually designed it, exaggerated pauldrons not-with-standing

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>>53673215

>>53664649
4/10
Other than the exposed groin and lack of helm, there are too many protruding decorative edges all around that would hinder mobility and flexibility without any real protective benefits.

>>53665849
>Chocolate brown crossbow lady
cool and fitting, blending regional style with light, practical minor protection. Honestly, since she's a ranged combattant, she could probably do with less armor-y armor and still be OK
>Redheaded Elf
Practical armor offering moderate protection. I'll assume she probably took the matching helmet off for the group photo. Or perhaps as an elf she's just too vain for one, in which case its a detriment, but not one that ruins the style. From an artistic point of view it's nice to see a character's face and not everybody can have Nephenee's class.
>Green-haried dwarf
From the scroll, sickle, and overall green theme I'm guessing she's a druid. The clothes there are fairly practical for travel, if rather dirty (reinforcing that dirt-under-my-fingernails nature vibe) and really don't matter when she shapeshifts into a bear to fight.
>Cyber-Goat
CYBER GOAT
>Big Dude
Again, he just took off his helmet for the group photo? Other than that, great. And I feel that sometimes neckbeards like me tend to overemphasize helmets. They're good to have -- really good, a hit to the head is gonna fuck you up hardcore. But the head is also a small and mobile target compared to the torso so losing your armor there isn't instant trash/10.
>Goth Chick
What ARE you? The spellbook and rod suggest mage, but that doesn't jive with the hefty spiked club. If she really is a primary spellcaster I guess she can get away with the "Extra straps over dancing girl outfit". Outside magic she's goit zero protection, though, and one other point against: three of the other four party members are brown and two are notably arabian in their stylings. The background has a lot of brown and a low horizon. I would guess they are adventuring somewhere hot, at which point this pale bitch is going to look like a lobster pretty soon, and a leper shortly thereafter. Again, unless magic gets involved and can protect her from sunburn.

>>53671859
Ornamental, for parades only. Not recommended to use in winter.

>>53673215
>Not being part of the phalanx
You're missing out.

>>53665849
Diverse/10

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>>53664665
>>53664762
>>53665426
OMG! I KNOW RIGHT?! THIS ARMOUR IS SOOOOO WRONG! I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I SUCKED MY KNOWLEDGE ABOUT ARMOUR OUT OF MY OWN ASSHOLE
I CANT EVEN NAME THE PARTS OF AN ARMOR SET BY NAME BUT LET ME COME ON /tg/ AND SHARE MY OPINIONS ABOUT ARMOUR!

I work with creating armor replica every day and I wish I could hate you all to death. If Satan himself showed up and offered me 10 years of my life in exchange for seeing every single one of you slowly flayed alive I would agree in heartbeat.

>>53674586

Well put. Autists gotta autist. What do you think of >>53671200, since that anon claims to wear armor?

>>53673371
Do you not see the green on the background? Looks like a fairly typical temperate setting to me. And if they were somewhere hot I'd be more concerned with the guy in full plate and elf with thirty pounds of chainmail hanging off her shoulders overheating than I would about the slutmancer getting a sunburn.

>>53673580
>Roman legionary
>phalanx
Insanus es?

>>53674586
Wow 1600 century soldiers were retards, I mean. Look how exposed they are

>>53670201
0/100.

>>53673371
>Goth Chick
>What ARE you?

A lot of people are saying rogue/wizard hybrid but I see sorceror or warlock probably being more accurate, if we're going by D&D anyway. Either way though she would be much better off the regular traveling clothes if defense is such a non issue for her. She's not even really wearing clothes, they're basically just leather straps.

>>53674586
Anons keep confusing realistic armor with protective armor. The two are NOT the same thing. I've seen some actual armor that would make most go "Why the fuck would you do that?". Thank you.

>>53671859
Is that a metal thong? it doesn't look like she's wearing any kind of cloth under it. Dear god, just how bad it must chafe from having your bare vag getting smushed in by steel, it would be painful as hell.

>>53670475
Yeah, I was thinking something similar since its not bare skin, but people just have fun nitpicking. Why burst their bubble?

>>53675525
>Sorcerer
>She's not even really wearing clothes, they're basically just leather straps.
Yes, and?

>>53671053
They both have halflings so both are trash

>>53675591
I just seems like a lot of work to put on, you might as well just but on a regular shirt and pants and that'll offer you about the same level of protection.

>>53675646
Nonono, anon. It has like 4 studs. That's extra AC there.

>>53675690
she's not even wear shoes anon

>>53675709
They're sandals

>>53675924
So many typos.

>>53675646
Ceremonial attire of her coven or whatever. Not meant to be practical by normal standards blah blah blah engraved runes and special rare material blah blah have to feel air on my skin to be one with the magics and stuff.

We can't ask magic users to make a lick of sense any more than we can tell a dragon to stop flying because there is no way they'd be able to with that body and those wings.

>>53672072
you're right my bad, that's meg. something in my head mixed up helga from suiko4 and a more generic armored knight

>>53664795
That's stupid, you wouldn't wear all your armour on long rides, you wouldn't be hampered by a bit of maille stopping you getting stabbed in the cock/vag

>>53675983
so... excusable fap material? Because It's not like I hate those kind of designs or anything, but you have to admit...

>>53677122
Yeah, of course that's the real reason. But we bullshit this kind of thing all the time, yanno? I'm personally much more willing to suspend disbelief when it comes to cloth-ish looking armor but it goes for everything.

>>53677355
That's fair, it is still a fantasy after all so it's not like everything has to be accurate or make all that much sense in retrospect. I love fantasy and sci-fi but if you have to turn of a part of your brain or you'll just end up ruining it for yourself because of silly or stupid stuff comes off. And that's with western fantasy where they at least somewhat try to make certain things make some sense. You watch/read any fantasy anime or manga, you're just going to give yourself a heart attack with trying to have it make some semblance of sense.

>>53665732
>tits and ass are all i come for
kys sadsac nerd

>>53677513

Look, no one's really upset that shit doesn't make sense, We left a certain amount of disbelief at the door coming in.

We're not asking for hyper realism we're asking for shit not to be retarded because you can't go two minutes with jacking off to Queen's Blade shit or whatever.

It's not that's unrealistic its that it's jarring and just draws to much attention to how unrealistic it is. This applies to western chain mail bikinis and shit too.

>>53665849
>Goth is actually a Barbarian.
>the book is the saga of her clan, which she reads and adds to with religious devotion
>dagger is just utility blade
>in combat, dual wields the spiked club and the longsword while roided out.
>magic berzerker muscles are why she just wears straps, so that nothing tears when she bulks up to 4 times her normal size

>>53677688
If it is really strictly about fap material then why fantasy settings? Just go beat off to porn 24/7. I could understand if you also thought it looked bad ass or something, but it sounds like you're only interested in the ass, minus the bad.

>>53677698
I do agree with that sentiment but if people genuinely like that slut armor aesthetic then that's on them. I understand that my opinions on what looks neat and interesting aren't universal and cannot be broadly enforced. Even if I do get annoyed by how prevalent goofy looking bikini armor is ad opposed to what I like.

>>53677820
Oops. Replied to the wrong post. My bad.

>>53677698
battle-kinis are shit and I more or less agree with you

>>53677795
That...sounds pretty cool honestly.

I like almost 200 posts in and nobody has mentioned how this armor is paired with a spear(lance)+bomb launcher all-in-one. But sure, realism was the aim.
Anyways, Agent and Duelist a best

>>53670201
Are those supposed to be metal kneesocks?

>>53664649
Relatively practical-looking but heaven forbid someone tries to stab her vagina.

>>53664649
Design aside can I just say how much I hate the colors? That sickly green and pinkish mauve are an atrocity against the primary silver. The more I look the more I wish I could change it.

>>53678115
Duelist takes too long to set up a game and deal decent damage. It's too dependant on "fate and luck", as well. The traps are neat, though.

I'll have to agree with you on the Agent. One of my favourite classes, because I like dealing crits to get them Reactions. Too bad we can't hack some bosses.

My other favourites are God Hand (great damage output, sustain and debuffs) and single-sword Samurai (great damage, sustain, and defence and really cool-ass animations).

7th Dragon deserves more love.

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>>53667188
>meanwhile in another timeline

>>53678336
Why have I never considered this?

>>53678336
She should have lost an arm and an eye after being forced to watch Femto plunder her husbando's ass.


>Femto hardly breaking eye contact with Casca as he grabs Guts' crotch.
>Guts moaning "don't look" as Casca completely loses it.
>Guts as a long haired mindbroken tard-bara, innocently chasing butterflies.

Truly this is the darkest fujo timeline.

>>53665924
>should

Fuck off. Realism is not the only acceptable aesthetic choice.

>>53677688
Because that's obviously the only alternative to total realism, fuckstick.

>>53665732
This man is correct. Realism fags are the single worst cancer in gaming. Worse than SJWs even.

>>53678326
>single-sword Samurai
>when everybody knows two swords is twice as cool
And not just using a party of lolis/shotas (9 duelists). Do you even etrian/ dungeon crawl?

7thD needs more love, rpgs need more wacky classes that are actually usuable

>>53678336

There's a black swordswoman joke here but Im not going to make it

>>53678516
>>53678542
You're right but why are you annoyed? Those tastes get catered to far more often than those that like female characters in more conservative and quasi-practical looking armor. Those that prefer bikini armor for whatever reason are in absolutely no danger of going without.

Total realism is going way too far in the other direction though. I wish there was more of a balance.

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>>53678662

Im not about FULL REALISM but armor should at least look like armor.

Ill buy it if it's not 100 percent accurate but don't sell me a metal thong and tell me it's an actual defense. Hell just changing the skimpy outfit to leather or cloth makes it more acceptable because at least your not trying to bullshit me

people can spot incongruity, so while we can accept armor that isn't 1/1 accurate and we can accept cheesecake outfits when you blend the extremes it just comes off as jarring. You where armor to defend yourself it's not actually defensive and well people are gonna notice even when in other instances they'd pretend not too.

>>53678662
>Total realism is going way too far in the other direction though.
There is literally nothing wrong with totally realistic armor. You're letting yourself be thrown off by the people who think "realism" means 90% of characters wear rusty chainmail, live in mud huts, and get stabbed in the dick and bleed out during their first battle.

>>53667098
But your wrong, and anyone who has ever worked on a fantasy project for real money and not NEETBUX like you knows it.
Helmets are omitted because we emotionally attach to human faces easier than helmets, badass or not. It's hard to convey emotion like crippling despair or absolute triumph after a tough win through a full visored helmet or properly worn sallet. Go learn something before you start dumping feces out of your mouth next time.

>>53678982

even when characters do have helmets they tend to be the face open kind or constantly get knocked off

>>53679031
exactly. Its why space marine leaders don't wear helmets, too. It makes a character instantly more recognizable. I find it odd and refreshing when characters actually keep their dome-keepers on. It's like they don't want to die or something.

>>53678974
Well if we're being honest, total realism would make these characters male, or at best some sort of figurehead. Its unfortunate, but the idea of lots of female knights in the thick of combat on the front lines of war is as fantastical a concept as a fireball spell.

I know this goes beyond speaking strictly of armor appearance, but when I said that I was speaking in broader terms. I really like seeing female characters in armor that looks at least protective and useful in battle. But in these settings realism is not my first priority for a variety of reasons.

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>>53679217
In before several historical accounts of women wearing armor into battle, i.e. the exception that proves the rule.

>>53679217
>>53679306

If we where really focused on proper realism we wouldn't be fighting monsters and dragons either you know what people mean.

>>53679330
And if we were going to be REALLY realistic, no adventurer in their right mind would ever wear something as cumbersome as plate armor.

>>53679217
Depends on a variety of factors. If any female presence on the battlefield as an actual warrior is "fantasy," then any fiction in which the sociopolitical landscape doesn't perfectly match our own is also "fantasy"--like, say, a setting where the U.S. intervenes and prevents Russia from invading Ukraine.

Which is not to say it's not fantasy, just that that's a very gray area and you're not going to get any kind of consensus on it. You could easily create a nation in a setting where population growth is high enough that sending a few capable women into the armed forces would no longer threaten the nation's stability, and it might technically be fantasy, but that doesn't make it unrealistic.

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>>53671918
Suikoden has one of my favorite armored woman designs.

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>>53679445

I just plane like battle dresses

>>53677795
Suddenly Goth chick went from That Guy to This Guy. Well done.

>>53673371
I took the Green-Haired Dwarf as an Alchemist (notice her hair has streaks of brown from her dye job and smudges on her clothes match her hair) and the Cyber-GOAT is her familiar.

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>>53666756
I like you.

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>>53667877
Happens to the best of us.

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>>53671859
That looks like it would have the same effect as a cheese grater.

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>>53664649
>uses mortar lances
>Does broken amounts of damage

GOAT tier.

>>53679387
Depends, Do they know they are going into battle? the biggest issue with plate armor isn't its weight or how "cumbersome" it is, its how long it takes to put on.

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>>53678662
>Those tastes get catered to far more often than those that like female characters in more conservative and quasi-practical looking armor.

Have you looked at a western fantasy game in the last 15 years? Conservative armor is the norm. I don't want bikini armor, I just don't want everything to turn into something like Dark Souls where armor is either boring or retarded.

I'm annoyed because you idiots constantly make it sound like Queens Blade is the face of fantasy or something, even WoW doesn't do slut armor much anymore, further you make it sound as though wanting something other than padding and armor everywhere means you just want everything to look like a Frazetta painting.

>>53678974
Realistic armor is boring. Full stop. You can paint it whatever colour you want, and wear all the fucking surcoats in the world, but it is boring and you're a boring person for thinking otherwise.

>>53681136
I think fantasy armor is cool, too, but usually the fantastical armor just looks shitty or it's pandering slut-wear.

>>53681242
There is nothing wrong with slut wear if everybody else is wearing it.

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>>53664649
>Doesn't have spikes
Trash baby armor for children

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>>53664649
>doesn't have spikes
Trash baby armor

>>53678894
No one tries to sell fantasy armor as "actual defense" though. It's there to make your pee-pee hard or look cool/important/imposing.

>>53681136

It may be on the drab side but it's still better than a lot of garish over designed costume bullshit that gets drawn

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>>53682854
>over designed costume bullshit
Just like real life!

>>53674586
It's not about being impenetrable you massive screeching autist it's about prioritizing within your weight/mobility budget. There is no good reason to armor your hips and lower thighs before your groin area if you're mainly foot-mobile. Notice how the men in your image have breastplates and a helmet, rather than, say, pauldrons, greaves, and couters?

Kill yourself right now.

>>53682797

Too much TnA becomes boring fast and frankly very rarely can it carry an entire full length movie. episode, comic, story or game

>>53680910
In this context I'll disagree with you on that one. For an army going into battle weight and being cumbersome isn't too bad, for an adventurer on his own or in a small group logistics problems are a bit more of a pain in the ass, compounded by the general lack of scouting parties at your disposal to find enemy positions and routes you can travel easy.

It's better to pack lighter and save on space you might need for looting then buy a set of fitted plate just in case the situation arises.

>>53679387
This

If you re going to be spending weeks at a time in your armor I'd be going with chain over gambeson. Plate armor would be great to have but fuck wearing that 24/7, and sleeping in it must be a pain in the ass

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>>53675087
>Landsknecht
>1600
Not even him, but I guess I want to join his deal with the devil now.

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>>53681809
that's fair

>>53683527
not the same guy but...

The German Landsknechts, sometimes also rendered as Landsknechte were colourful mercenary soldiers with a formidable reputation, who became an important military force through late 15th- and 16th-century Europe.

I don't see the issue here.

>>53682999

That's at worst a touch ostentatious, it's not like he's wearing 30 pounds of retractable wings with his tits on display for no reason

>>53664649
Poorly

>>53683584
16th century != 1600s

>>53679471
They are nice, and women belong in dresses anyway.

Armor ain't that bad. It's just women that can't fight because they suck at it.

>>53683031
>fabricating standards for anon to meet when the posters he replied to previously expressed they think no groin protection = bad armor

Why are you defending their stupidity?

>>53683584
>reddit historian thinks 1600 = 16th century
Dood.

>>53683846
The comments about the exposed groin are obviously in reference to the fact that the entire rest of her body save the head is otherwise well-armored. That anon is being incredibly disingenuous when he implies, via his image and filename, that they'd be making the same comments had she been wearing only a breastplate, when that's obviously not the case for anyone who takes a second to think before getting triggered out of his saddle.

>>53683900
>>53683724
Not a historian, just googled the name to understand what>>53683527
was talking about, forgot about the whole 16th century=1500-1600 thing, my bad.

>>53683527
I am that dude here, that was bait.

>>53674586
>>53671200

Congrats, /tg/. A 250-post thread and these are the only two good ones. Well done.

>>53684031
But you're wrong.

>>53684040

What isn't good about those posts?

>>53684087
The first one is a reactionary faggot sperging out and there are plenty of good images and valid discussion in the thread.
The second post is good.

>>53683969
The anon in question never explicitly said that they'd hold the same opinion if she was only in a breast plate nor am I seeing this implicitly - you are manufacturing this point. I believe his intent was to show specifically that groin protection was not always a priority and that inherently assuming it was is dumb.

>>53684310
Again, you're being disingenuous if you think they meant groin protection as an absolute, overriding first priority. It is a priority, to be sure, but not a greater priority than center-mass and head protection, and while it is reasonable to stop at the head and chest if that's where your weight budget ends, it's not reasonable to skip over the groin when you decide on a weight budget that allows you to otherwise armor all of your extremities fairly solidly.

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>>53683784
That's why you put them in support roles.

>>53664649
Pretty good, it's the nice mix of looking cool and fantastical will still giving a convincing idea of protection. No it's not 100% realistic but it has enough protective parts, cover's enough of the centre pass that in D&D I could still at least rule it as half-plate.
It leaves room for other slightly fantastic designs without giving way to justifying bikini armours.

I'd say the whole Fire Emblem or Beserk level is pretty close to what I want out of fantasy armour. It shows the characters as fighters and gives them slight bits of visual flair without being cluttered or giving way to armour fetishism (both by way of lingerie and of realism) It's simple, stays in its place and lets the story continue.

>>53684483
How am I being disingenuous when they explicitly state these things? If anything you're being disingenuous by insisting these posters share your argument.

>>53684588
>when they explicitly state these things
Show me where they state that groin protection is a bigger priority than chest and head protection.

>>53684626
You are fixating on a point that myself or the anon in question never made.

>>53684737
Then what is the point you are trying or believe the anon was trying to make?

>>53683157
Well then it's a good thing that games/movies/whatever are more than just pictures of girls in skimpy or cool looking armor

>>53683555
This is my favorite answer to what to do with boob plate: Give everyone crazy impractical sexy fantasy armor

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>>53684801
That my friend is the essence of true equality, also you can vaguely see the outline of his penis, did not notice until I posted it. Whatever paladin order he's from has some lax attire rules.

>>53684748
>what is the point
Groin protection wasn't always a priority.
The extra points you are trying to tack onto this dialogue like 'weight budgeting' or the 'obvious references' in anons spastic post are completely of your own invention and neither him or myself made mention of anything other than the blatant stupidity of some posters (sans the guy that mentioned the mail skirt).

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>>53681126
I look around and I still see plate armor molded to tits or bare thighs or midriffs or what have you. I guess we're just seeing different stuff. Either that or we have different standards for what constitutes sexy armor. Divinity is a fairly recent western fantasy game. I like this guy's armor, the female version is super sexy (to me). That's not always BAD, just not my preference.

And even your WoW example: If your WoW character has breasts your armor will also have breasts because chest armor wraps to the shape of the torso. So all plate in WoW can be boob plate. It doesn't ruin the game for me, but yeah, not my favorite design. And to me it seems incredibly common even now.

>>53684837
Everyone in my FF14 Static is required to have a ridiculous slutty glamour for group shots.

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>>53681126
>>53684902
Here's an example of male vs. female fantasy armor from Guild Wars 2. And there's a lot more where that came from. That's not inherently bad, it just seems in no danger of dying out to me. Sex will always sell, so a couple of naysayers here and there isn't going to affect much.

Out of curiosity though, since you said slutkini armor wasn't your thing, what unrealistic armor do you like?

>>53664649
You don't need armors when fighting Dragons.

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>>53684896
>Groin protection wasn't always a priority.
Which is disingenuous because it takes the posts in isolation and ignores the crucial piece of context that is *what the posters were critiquing*: an image of someone who has protected most of their vitals but has prioritized their extremities over their groin. The image of the landsknechte is a refutation of "thou shalt armor thy groin", sure, but that's a strawman. They're focusing on the groin because it stands out as unarmored, compared to the entire rest of the body, and they see a mismatch of priorities. This is what you and that anon both fail to acknowledge in your posts.

tl;dr follow the fucking reply chain.

>>53685117
I'm very fond of fantastical takes on Dorian panoplies actually.

>>53684837
>>53684801

I feel like that's missing the entire point of the argument

>>53685290
Make everyone sexy and then no one can call your armor impractical, that's just how that world works

>>53685326

Yeah see that's not better.

>>53685290
Maybe not your argument, but a big one is comparing male to female. If they are equally slutty, then it can't be said to be a product of sexism or whatever.

>>53685347
Yes it is, armor can only be "impractical" relative to other armor available. If it's normal for the setting then the only lense you can view it through to make it impractical is the lense of our reality, and if you're judging the veracity or practicality of something in a fantasy setting through the lense of our world then any number of magical bullshit should be your target, not armor.

>>53685423

The issue isn't practicality it's believably and how far we're willing to suspend our disbelief. Putting everyone in a metal banana hammock doesn't fix the glaringly obvious problem of it just looking stupid

>>53664649
comesfrommoney/10 it's not quite my favorite aesthetic, but it works well enough. I am going to assume her helmet is just not in the shot/she doesn't wear one because she's a major character with a name and thus has to be easily recognizable in a hurry.

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>>53685326
>>53685347
No, I could settle for that. Better than guys get cool armor and chicks are cheesecake. It's easier for me to accept sexy armor when everyone is wearing it, because that's just the way the world is. When it's just the women it distracts the shit outta me.

>>53685464
Go Google the dendra panoply and tell me that isn't stupid looking.

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>>53685595

leathers and animal hides work just fine

>>53667525
That's also true. I've heard it suggested before that one of the advantages of uniforms is that it also makes the sight of friendly casualties less traumatic. You know, if you were a British soldier at Waterloo, you'd be seeing a lot of your dead countrymen laying around, but instead of identifying individual faces and such, you'd just see red uniforms on the ground.

The effect of uniforms is hypnotic for all parties, so while it might make it easier for enemies to shoot at you, it also makes it easier for you to absorb the loss of your comrades.

>>53685777

plus it makes it easier to shoot THEM. Even if it's an enemy killing people en mass will fuck you the hell up

>>53685165
>Follow the reply chain
Maybe if you took your own advice you'd note that none of them bothered to back up their statements with anything that would definitively corroborate what you are pulling out of your ass. Unless you posses some form of telepathic ability that allows you to decipher the true meaning and thought input behind someone's shitpost - you lack the means to associate your argument with their stupid generalizations.

>>53685815
>Unless you posses some form of telepathic ability
I do and it's called reading from context. If you lack this skill, you might be autistic.

>>53685800

Is that her bra?

>>53685865
Wait, what? ... Now I can't unsee it. God damn it.

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>>53685585
>dendra panoply
>stupid looking

>>53685810
Oh definitely, there was a study during WWII that showed that it was easier to shoot enemies while they were running away because you couldn't see their faces, their silhouettes looked like the targets used in training.

Che Guevara was famous for executing people by shooting them in the face, while looking at them. My Psych teacher always used that as an example of how you can tell someone is a true psychopath.

>>53685838
>Lacking anything tangible to definitively prove my position I'll just call you autistic

dude.

>>53685929

One of my classmates wore a Che Guevara shirt to school once and when it came time for social studies class our teacher saw it and yelled at him for the entire fucking period. Without stopping once.

It was hilarious. And included on the test, which I found hysterical.

>>53674586
But they could stab you in the pee pee!

>>53685965
It's all I can do if you refuse or are unable to understand context.

>>53665849
This picture makes me mad. It's very nicely painted, and the party, for once, doesn't look like a circus troupe from hell, but they've gone too far in the other direction. Boring/10.

>>53671164
Is this the new meme? Are all the cool kids hating on Dark Souls now?

>>53685290
Is this an argument? Some people said they like slutty armor, I don't, that's all there is to it.

>>53670369
It really doesn't. Most Dark Souls helmets are dorky as hell.

>>53684902
>I look around and I still see plate armor molded to tits or bare thighs or midriffs or what have you.

If your standard is "follows the contours of the human body" you're too picky.

Also that Divinity pic got changed due to bitching. It's one of many examples of why I find this kind of bitching irksome.

>>53685117
Guild Wars isn't the face of modern fantasy. Something like Skyrim would be a better example, which has a few examples of boob plate, but is mostly fairly egalitarian in its design.

I'm not going to deny liking cheesecake, but overall I prefer an aesthetic that emphasizes the physical aesthetic of all the participants, not necessarily in a sexual fashion, but in an aesthetically appealing fashion. To go back to your earlier question, I find this subject annoying because I see people like you making a call to further pigeon hole and limit fantasy, a genre that once used to be boundless in its potential, but is now mostly clones of LotR or GoT. Aesthetics in fantasy should not be limited by realism, nor should they be limited by sex appeal.

Also realistic armor in fantasy is a pipe dream, because our understanding of what constitutes realism is both flawed and constantly shifting. Imagine what "realistic" fantasy from even 40 years ago might look like to our sensibilities now.

>>53686723
>Also that Divinity pic got changed due to bitching. It's one of many examples of why I find this kind of bitching irksome.

Man I don't like slut armor but even more I hate that it gets censored or change to petulant whining

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>>53686723
>If your standard is "follows the contours of the human body" you're too picky.
You might be right about that, but I like what I like.

>Guild Wars isn't the face of modern fantasy.
Yes, but you did say any game, and GW is hardly obscure. In any event, we can at least agree that fantasy should not be limited by a supposed adherence to realism, even if what we think of as aesthetically pleasing couldn't possibly be more different. For what it's worth, I hope we're both pandered to equally. I never said I wanted a world without sexy armor. I want there to be all sorts of different armor and different takes on ideas and settings. A world where there were only things that I like and approve of would be just as boring to me as it'd be to you.

I think Dragon's Crown looks goofy as fuck but you'll never find me saying it shouldn't exist. It's a shame that my preference gets me lumped in with militant feminazi types. The purpose behind my bitching is to express, not to censor.

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>>53686874
Agreed.

>>53686723
This is what it got changed to? Just peachy, I still don't like it and now it looks more dull. Rather than change that armor, they should have just added another outfit that looked nothing like it, and then people could choose what they wanted. But I don't even play Divinity so I've got no dog in that race.

I always assumed shit like bikini armor was just enchanted with some sort of shield spell that encompasses the entire body so the people who make it try to use the least amount of material possible to get the best profit.