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Four-Armed Combat

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What effect would having 4 arms have on hand-to-hand combat? What sort of weapons and tactics do you think would prove most beneficial for a four-armed person?

Let's assume that the person is only a little better at multi-tasking than a regular two-armed person (so it's not like they get twice as many actions at full effectiveness). Let's also assume that each individual arm is weaker than that of a normal person of similar fitness, but that two arms working in conjunction are definitely stronger (so they'd suck at two-armed push ups, but rock at four-armed push ups).

Further, let's keep in mind that when you're swinging a sword at somebody, you aren't just moving your arm, but also your body, and that if you were limited to just striking with your arm, you'd be making some awkward, weak-ass attacks. This obviously limits the independence of your arms.
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>>53608641
>What effect would having 4 arms have on hand-to-hand combat?
-4 to hit.
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One thing that occurs to me is that you could grab onto an enemy (or his shield) with two hands, while still having two hands free to fuck his shit up. If you could hold or pin an enemy with your upper hands, you repeatedly knife him in the sides with your lower ones.

I'm wondering what sort shield(s) would be ideal for you. You could maybe go for a couple of bucklers and be able to cover more area and bash with them wherever your opponent leaves himself open.

You could have a number of different weapons, and actively use whichever one your opponent left himself most vulnerable to. You could hook his leg and trip him with one. You could stab his exposed side with another. You could ensnare his arm or hook his shield with another, and so forth.
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>>53608641
Oh, and I guess 4-armed general. Post characters with 4 arms and so forth.
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>>53608641
I've played a 4-armed Sauhaugin in a monster party using PF. went monk, and just unloaded on people. Benefits of having it stated in the monster profile that no penalties are imposed.
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I'm wondering whether you'd use a bastard sword or greatsword by switching up the hands you were using. Would you tend to use weapons with longer handles to make the best use of your multiple arms?

Also, things like nets seem great. You have enough arms that you needn't leave yourself exposed by forgoing a shield to hold a net, and if you ever ensnare your enemy, holding the net wouldn't be a big deal, since you'd still have 3 other arms.
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>>53608934
So you'd get double the normal attacks? Talk about broken.
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>>53608661
>>53608641

Yeah, I get the impression that having more arms isn't necessarily better for melee combat.

You need a wide range of motion for swords, the extra weapons and limbs would get in each other's way, and you wouldn't be able to use spears at all. Knifes or katars would be great.

Two short swords and two shields/bucklers would be ideal.
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>>53609156
Double crossbow?
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>>53609156
Hell, sometimes having two arms is bad for combat. There's a reason fencers keep their off hand tucked away.
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>>53609156
You could use large halberds or pikes alongside shields tho. Which would be quite scary in proper warfare, I can also imagen four-armed skirmishers being nasty, chucking spears and such.
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>>53608641
>What effect would having 4 arms have on hand-to-hand combat? What sort of weapons and tactics do you think would prove most beneficial for a four-armed person?
A two handed weapon with a shield and a parry weapon or two shields.

An archer using a shield,a bow and fouth hand to provide arrows faster.
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>>53608641
I can rub BOTH my moobs while fapping AND using a mouse? Excellent.
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The popular image of multiarmed sword combat is really infeasible, but it'd make things like duel crossbows more feasible if you had extra arms to load them and no dominant hand preference.

Stabbing or bludgeons rely on the full motion of the body so it'd only be feasible to use one of those on each side and reserve the rest of your hands for shield or keep them empty to grab things.
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They'd probably be mean knife fighters and brawlers.

In actual warfare, I could see two arms on one side carry one shield and one arm on the other one carrying the weapon, with the fourth arm being contingency if the weapon arm gets hurt.
All four arms gripping one polearm might also be good.

Anything else doesn't seem like it would work out. So, in essence, just a normal fighter with extra grip and an redundant hand in case of injury or tiring, which would in itself be pretty good I think.
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>>53609357

>implying you only have 2 moobs
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Wielding multiple weapons, even with four arms, would require short weapons. Using 4 daggers or short swords would be an amazing offence, the trick to not getting tangled is to use thrusting weapons. But on the battlefield, you could carry a larger shield on one side, and a two handed weapon on the other. A being that has had four limbs all it's life would be used to them, it would be natural, they wouldn't tangle themselves up. Humans coordinate ten fingers while typing, why would it be harder to use four arms to fight when your species has brains evolved to use them?
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The thing about daggers is only one of each would be usable as an actual thrusting weapon, using the other hand would halve the imparted force, you'd only be using your excess arms to get a better grapple while lining up your stabbin' arm.
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It's better, far better for grappling and wrestling. GURPS gives large bonuses for having extra arms.
In terms of throwing weapons more arms means more weapons in hand.

In modern combat, a four armed character could have ammo on hand immediately, and also do things such as opening doors or doing other tasks while also keeping a weapon ready.
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>>53608641

For serious armed combat it would not be that great.

Pole weapons are the melee weapon of choice for serious combatants going up against other serious combatants and have been ever since people ditched shields because they wore armour, and needed a two handed implement to stand a serious chance of defeating other armoured combatants.

4 arms would be great for grappling, but it's not helpful for wielding the most effective weapons like halberds, spears or pollaxes.

Besides, what are the arms like? Identical to the first pair? Weaker? Stronger? And what about the upper arms? Stronger than normal 2-armed humanoid arms?

If they are close in strength then there's probably some kind of fighting technique that could work, revolving around grabbing the other guys arms with 3 of your arms while you stab him in the dick with your 4th.
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>>53608641
Reminds me of the race of four armed dog men in Last Remnant that has the option to dual wield greatswords by basically using their two arms on each side as a single arm on each each side instead.
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>>53610841
I don't think that's really feasible, because that way you have the entire weight of the weapon on one side and much less maneuvarbility and leverage. Having greatweapons with longer handles so you can grip them with all four arms seems reasonable, though, because it gives you better grip, leverage and flexibility.
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My four armed character usually fights either with his upper arms using melee weapon(s) while his lower ones do grabs, parries, or hold his sawed-off shotgun at the ready for an opening, OR he just uses the shotgun while his other arms reload it really fast.
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>>53609357

I can touch type while stroking my beard AND tipping my fedora.
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>>53610956
Never said it was reasonable. Especially considering that the other gear option for them is quad wielding swords.
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>>53608641
Probably guns because they wont be as effective melee fighters (less strength in each arm).
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>tfw want to have hit locations in a setting with both two armed and four armed races and it is living hell

KILL ME
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>>53611837
Just do ARMS and a D2 or D4 depending on race.
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In GURPS you are allowed to use up to two two-handed weapons, four one-handed weapons, four shields, or a combination thereof.

More arms also allow you to attack more than twice at once: an attack called a Dual Weapon Attack where you swing or stab with your hands, quite literally, at once. You get four skill rolls, one for each hand. The main hand is penalized with -4 to skill and the off hands are penalized with -8 to skill. There are ways to decrease the penalties, of course.

More arms allow you to raise the cap on the number of extra attacks you can buy. The Extra Attack advantage is limitted by the number of limbs and other things that can attack. A normal human can buy up to Extra Attack 5 (two arms, two legs, and a mouth) meaning he can attack 5 times a turn without penalty. A four armed human can thus buy up to Extra Attack 7. Extra Attack is different from Dual Weapon Attack in that the latter represents skill and the former represents superhuman ability.

GURPS also includes any obvious advantages for having more arms.
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>>53608641
It would really depend on how the arms are positioned in relation to each other on the torso, for example in pic;

If they're mounted like Goro the user would have a more even forwards arm strength, better suited for melee combat (2 arms on a larger shield, one arm holding a whip for tripping and another a close combat weapon of choice)

Meanwhile if they're more positioned like machamp, you've a set of arms that are pretty much useless for forwards attacks but great of the sides or pulling back (IE archery) and now you have a twin arrow turret
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/vr/ sends its regards.
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>>53608641
Better at grappling
Depending on the strength of the user you could have two arms holding shields and two holding spears and you could be your own walking army
Obviously swords would be unwieldy but I think beyond that you'd be alright
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>>53608641
>>53609009

>tfw I just got another new fetish.

Fuck off teegee. Where the hell am I going to find pics now?
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>>53608641
Mm next door Nikki. Discovered her the first time I went internet browsing for porn. Typed in boobs xxx into google image search. The picture was her in a red and white bikini covering herself in baby oil.
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>>53608641
Grapple based fighting, block an enemies attack and then throw them off balance and exploit the opening.
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> 2 arms with a Pole weapons to keep enemies away.
> 2 arms with a crossbow or a gun to shot the fuckers.
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>>53608861
4-armed general, you say?
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>>53608641
I think I'd try something like two long pole hook -like weapons on upper arms, then two rapiers on the lower arms. Maybe replace one rapier with something more defensive.
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>>53608641
Just a spear, same as a regular person. You'd have more total strength behind it, so it'd be harder for people to knock it out of the way and you'd be able to hit harder.

Or maybe three hands on a spear and one on a shield.

People already have two arms and don't go around dual wielding, they use two-handed weapons or a shield. The historic optimum seems to be "Whatever makes me not die, then as much strength behind one weapon as possible."
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>>53608641
>>53609009
So someone photoshoped these specifically to jack off to them, right?
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>four arms = four armpits
Goddamn, why can't I live in this world?
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>>53613637
Case in point >>53613662
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>>53613637
That second one is two people.
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4 pistols
2 pistols and a rifle
2 rifles
2 shotguns
2 pistols and a shotgun
A rifle and a shotgun
The possibilities are endless!
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>>53609156

imagine 3 guns and a reloading hand
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>>53608641
Ask her.
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>>53608641
it would be great for grappling.
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>>53609260
You can't really brace them to fire both at once, or reload both because of the movements involved.

You might be better off using a bow - one arm holds the bow, one the arrow, a third constantly draws the next arrow from the quiver and gets ready to hand it off to the shooting arrow arm, and the fourth flips the bird.
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>>53616415
But she has two arms. And like 5 legs.
Imagine!
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>>53612535
How do Machamp's shoulders work? It doesn't seem like his front arms would have the same range of motion, considering the shoulder blades have new arms thrusting out of their center.
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>>53609268
>Hell, sometimes having two arms is bad for combat.

That's possibly the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
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>>53613352
All over /d/.
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>>53616698
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>>53616782

Nearly all weeb garbage.
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>>53617977
If you're not above faping to four armed women then you're not above weeb shit
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>>53613352
Just look for pictures where somebody is obscuring somebody else such that it looks like they share arms?
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>>53608641
>What effect would having 4 arms have on hand-to-hand combat?
If they're skinny twig arms like that girl, not much.
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>>53609268
>There's a reason fencers keep their off hand tucked away.

Yeah, and that is because doing anything with that hand would be an illegal action, so might as well not have it there as a target.
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>>53613637
You know what they say: the necessity for fap material is the milf of invention.
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>>53619313
-8 STR
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>>53619797
Fine work, anon, I salute you.
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You'd have a grievous combat, for sure
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>>53608641
>What sort of weapons and tactics do you think would prove most beneficial for a four-armed person?
1 two-handed spear, 1 shield, 1 dagger/longknife
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>>53620744
>You'd have a grievous combat, for sure
Ba-doom ba-doom tiss tiss!
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Darts. Think how many darts per round you could throw. You'd be a fucking machine gun.
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>>53621254
I'm thinking that more than a particularly long sword, you'd want with a big enough handle to accommodate two or ever three hands. Sure, it'd probably be a bit longer, but at a certain point, the weight and length are enough that you're having to use your whole body in a way that makes your shield a secondary, less-effective consideration. So I'm thinking a bastard sword is probably more ideal to use with a shield than a real greatsword.
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>>53608641
Best use I can think of is firing arrows with one pair of arms, and having a shield and close range weapon ready with the other pair in case someone charges you, or perhaps having just the weapon, and using three arms to draw a really powerful bow.
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>>53614193
How do you aim them all with only one pair of eyes?
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>>53621514
my thinking is that spear and shield is already a damn good combo for a normal human being. if you use one extra hand to wield a long, two-handed spear, you're having a big reach advantage AND you can poke real hard. the 4th hand weapon is for enemies who duck and close in or bind the spear and close in. you use it busy them while getting back into optimal spear distance. so something like a longknife or gladius or an arming sword or whatever could work quite well.
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I have a race in my game like this. There aren't ways to 'dual wield' and get more than one extra attack. Only had one player pick them. Dual wielding a two handed weapon with a light weapon and a shield seemed the best he could do with four arms.
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>>53621844
Fielding a phalanx of these fuckers seems like it could be pretty effective. They'd have shields to deflect enemy spears/pikes, but could also grab a hold of them with their free hands (or maybe grab it with one hand and chop through it with some kind of hacking weapon with the other). And if an enemy ever got in close, they could fight with a close-quarters weapon (and maybe a buckler?) without having to necessarily drop their spear/pike.
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I wonder how effective it would be to have two interlocking shields, one carried on each side, with a slot for your spear to go through (like in the pic, only less retarded). The shields could be curved in such a way as to effectively protect your sides.
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>>53614193
Those are both pistols though...
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>>53622135
It seems like your left shield would mainly cover your front, while your right shield would mainly defend your right flank. Not sure how feasible this would be in a phalanx though. Usually you get some defense from the shield of the person to your right (which is why phalanxes have a tendency to drift rightward, as people seek the protection of their neighbor's shield), and it might be that having a right-hand shield would actually get in the way and force you to space out more.
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A vicious killing machine

https://youtu.be/ROssbvtE41U
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>>53608641

Mounted troops would greatly benefit.

You could have a shield on each side, hold a lance or sword, and still have that fourth arm for holding the reins.

Or a shield, a bow, and again a hand for managing the horse.

Sure you can ride with just your legs, but it's not something to seek out if you can avoid it.
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Spellcasters would benefit. You could cast while wielding a shield and/or weapon. Or while climbing or riding.
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>>53622678

...that was actually pretty cool.
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>>53622678
Doctor Who was pretty hardcore back then.
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one use that comes to mind is to be able to hold a weapon and a shield/buckler and then also be able to open doors or grapple without having to set anything down
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>>53610841
What about one greatsword, and two small/medium shields?

Ya got your hackin' and your blockin'
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>>53610956
Dual-wielding as a normal person isn't that feasible either.
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>>53609156
>>53609293
This. The real benefit here is in using a 2-handed weapon or ranged weapon and a shield or two, not so much using a bunch of weapons. Imagine if a guy brought a crossbow, brought a nice shield to hide behind, then used that fourth hand to speed up the reloading process. Really, manually reloading weapons in general get a buff, since you could multitask better. 2 or more shields might be a real thing as well, since you can now block from simultaneous angles.

I imagine some form of 4-handed weapon utilizing the ridiculous leverage and control of 4 arms MIGHT be a thing, but I'm not a physics guy.
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>>53610956
>because it gives you better grip, leverage and flexibility.
Would you really have anywhere near the same range of motion with four arms? They'd be in each other's way, all the fucking time.
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>>53616756
From the animations and fan-wankery I have seen, the upper arms seem to anatomically be basically mounted behind and just above the shoulders, giving Machamp two seperate sets of shoulders that merge together into one very thick set of shoulders that angle downwards to the front by means of some poorly defined skin flaps/muscle/connective tissue webbing between them. Machamp's anatomy has been a bit inconsistent over the years, like a few times where the upper arms appeared to connect directly to the head, but generally the newer stuff like related has tried to iron out most of those inconsistencies across the series. I'm not sure what the rightmost image implies about its anatomy, except that its musculo-skeletal structure is weird as fuck.

Some wankery suggests that Machamp uses the upper arms to restrict the movement of enemies, while focusing on the lower two for actual attacks which explains it's ability No Guard, but wankery is wankery.
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>>53609666
>his keyboard does not dodge and can't hit back.
I expected more of you, Satan
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>>53616415
>centaur encouter
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>>53613374

Yeah, and then she got fat, got naked on jerry springer, and instantly she was just trailer trash. Its a shame she only dropped the tease act after getting fat and ugly.
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>>53627585
I haven't seen anything from her in a long time, but it seems like she got fat for a while (after having a baby?) and then shaped back up. Did she go downhill again? Regardless, beauty is fleeting (and I always thought Tiffany Teen was hotter, in any case).
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>>53627138
>Would you really have anywhere near the same range of motion with four arms? They'd be in each other's way, all the fucking time.
I mean, gripping a weapon in two hands reduces your range of movement with it, but that doesn't make it worthless.
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>>53627812
>Tiffany Teen was hotter, in any case

...until her nudes came out and then she was dust in the wind. Its a shame because the gain for us was really loss.
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>>53627908
Maybe it's the difference between a rock star who dies at the peak of their talent vs. one who lives long enough to lose their touch (how much more respect would you have for Metallica if they broke up before they went to hell?). There's always going to be another hot, young girl to replace the last one, so I can't get too weepy when one throws in the towel.
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I do wonder what sort of crazy shit you could do when pole-fighting.
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>>53608661
>-4 to hit.
Worth it if I get double the attacks.
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So what if you had some kind of weighted chain in two of your hands -- one to ensnare your enemy's weapon and another to maybe trip him up. Meanwhile, you're carrying a shield (probably a relatively small one so as not to get in the way of your other arms) and a sword. If you can ever tangle your enemy up, he's in trouble, because you can hold the chain in one hand (if needed) and still be essentially at full combat capacity.
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>>53608861
I'm still amazed how that movie got some things so right and yet so much so very wrong.
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>>53608641
I have a four armed race as a standard part of my campaign. Because of the things discussed here by other people, it has very simple mechanical benefits. Standard hand, offhand rules apply for holding equipment. The player is treated as having their hands free for other actions while holding a weapon. That means they can climb, lock pick, flip you off, while still armed. The game has fire arms, so they get a bonus to reloading. I have a feat available for the race that grants the ability to wield a few d10 damage weapons in "one hand". If you want to cheese it and use two, it takes the duel wielding feat. This limits the potential growth of the power level to after 8th, and it's roughly equivalent to a stat up.
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Avatars and Cutters swerve, best TAG-fu is coming through. You know you a bad bitch when you can bring sword+board AND an explosive machine cannon. Damn, son, no matter what kind of neckbeard you area, she's got what you need. But I think the four arms are mainly for the style points: you're a poor little Hunzakut, and suddenly you turn around and Mecha Shiva is brandishing the gun show. Holy fuck. Those Haqq booty shorts are about to be creamed. You ever seen a 12 ft mech move 6-4 across Very Difficult Terrain in high heels? Talk about posthuman awe, this is beyond that. That is Bad Motherfucker Awe. What do you mean, your TAG doesn't have four arms and bunny ears?
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>>53627138
You can let go and switch up depending on your needs. We are also talking about a creature that had four arms all their life, most like, so there'll be less getting in the way going on.
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>>53613450
lol'd
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I'd be tempted by lower arms holding spear, one upper arm with shield, one upper arm with axe- spears give you reach, shield is shield, axe gives you something for people who get in close to you and because its an axe you dont need much range of motion, just a downwards chop.
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>>53608641

I'd give them precog.
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>>53630273

That sounds pretty sensible and balanced. Four arms should NOT break the action economy. They're not useless, but the benefit of 2 --> 4 shouldn't be as good as the benefit of going 1 --> 2.
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Using four arms to stabilize one gun is probably way more effective than using two or four guns, unless you are going for maximum metalstorm and it doesn't even matter where you are shooting.
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>>53613374
>>53627585
>>53627812
>>53627908

Nobody's gonna mention a fucked up boobjob?
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>No one has posted a Marillith yet
It's like you don't want the ultimate snek wiafu combination of Multiple arms, Demons, Musclegirl, Snekgirls, and a Medusa all in fucking one I mean, this isn't the best marillith picture I had, but it's one that at least featured the addition of medusa hair to sell it.
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>>53632226
snek hair a shit
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>>53613352
Look for warcraft shivarras and sheeva from mortal kombat. Her race is Shokan. Just type shokan female on google images

>>53622846
Or they could cast extra spells
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>>53613326
Pong Krell was way too badass, he was pretty much a jedi battlemaster

https://youtu.be/dcfV6yUUMhs
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>>53622846
>>53632534
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2 arms to hold a spear, 1 arm for a shield and the last arm for a short sword in case anyone gets inside your spears range and past your shield.
this seems like the best set up for most situations.

imagine a battalion of 4 armed archers able to fire twice as many arrows in the same amount of time.
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>>53631761

Huh? You mean precognition? Why?
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>>53608641
For ranged combat bow, since they can hold the bow with one hand, draw it with two hands and use the last one to get an arrows, they could event get a bow with a better range this way. Another ranged weapon could be a pair of crossbows, since they can reload one crossbow while firing the other one. Now for melee combat they can use huge pole arms and shields, or if you want to go full balls to the wall use all four arms for a massive pole arm.
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>>53616681
>Not wielding two bows with a quiver on each hip so you can rapidly fire both
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>>53613662
Best world
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>>53637737
I don't think that would work. Bows on the same side would get in each other's way, on opposite sides they'd be impossible to draw. Now one REALLY big bow would be cooler.
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>>53637737
You use too much beyond your arms to make that practical. There's no way to cross your arms with each other in such a way that you could draw both.

You culd try alternating one set, then another, but it's not going to be faster than a regular guy just drawing (you'd have to constantly be resetting your feet).
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>>53621804
You twin link the guns, of course.
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>>53636766

Because fore-warned is four-armed.
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>>53631722
You can pull a spear back to hit people up close, the shaft is usually smooth.
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I saw grab stuff and spin fast >:)
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>>53640998
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>>53617905
How long have you been waiting for an excuse to use that image?
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>>53621294
I see you friend
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Will extra limbs be a thing when better-than-natural cybernetics become common?
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>>53621294
I thought that thumbnail was a red bitch with huge knockers.
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>>53609268
As an eppe fencer, the off hand it "tucked away" because it is valid target area, and if it hits an opponents weapon (or if it touches the cable that you attached to) it counts against you. And getting hit by an opponents weapon counts as hitting it. Looking back on the formation of fencing as a sport, dueling basically, the off hand would use a small buckler (like real small) or a main gauche (see parry dagger) to provide better a better defence
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>>53609268
>>53645116
Similarly, if you were fencing with a foil, you'd only be able to use one, because the other hand is needed for balance and momentum (throwing it back when lunging puts more force into your attack, meaning it comes out faster and is harder to dodge or parry)
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>>53632658
Why do the damn clones rush into melle range?
Do they get more retarded after each batch?
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>>53644813
Sure, if they come with some mental implant that helps you in multitasking. Hell, at that point the only limit is how much available space is there in your body for extra limbs before they become a nuisance instead of help.
They'd most likely not look like actual, human arms, though, as you can get the same amount of force and skill in a smaller limb.
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>>53623003
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>>53608641
2x as many push ups
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>>53647371
Also x2 to shit posting speed in some cases
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>>53649607
You could be a bad-ass typer if you had 4 arms, at least if you had keyboards made for you -- maybe 2 rows of 5 keys beneath each hand, meaning you'd hardly have to move your fingers. Come to think of it, you could be a pretty badass musician too. It'd be a lot easier to pull off some of those tricky chords if you had an extra hand to help out.
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>>53649677
Imagine a four or six handed bard! Guitar plus sax plus harmonica or hambone
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>>53649677

two hands to type, one for the mouse, and one for fapping. A highly evolved parasite on 4chan.
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