/5eg/ - D&D 5th Edition General

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>>53603960
Had an Alchemist in my Phandelver group. He was more useful than my (Take 10) Awakened Mystic.

>>53604014
Kek.

>>53603954
Sounds fucking fantastic.

>>53604014
The premise and everything about Tomb of Annihilation sounds fucking rad, hope they can deliver.

Maybe ideas on how to deposit it in an alternative campaign setting or your own homebrew world.

>>53603960
>>53603960
reposting my question

>>53604039
did he just have more utility or just kept up in damage?

>>53604014
>Since we already know what's going to be in Xanathar's Guide to Everything
What's going to be in XGtE?

>>53604080
Everything.

>>53604080
We ran through this with Volo's Guide: please, just XGE. Any more than four letters and it gets messy. Here's a rundown:

- November
- ~200 pages
- >25 subclasses (2 or more for each class except wizard, most or all from UA)
- variant rules
- expanded trap rules (UA)
- downtime rules (UA)
- new spells (UA + more?)
- new magic item rules

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Who else thinks they should've picked literally anywhere else for the next hardcover campaign?

>>53604014
I'm hoping for annihilation, at the very least.

>>53604114
I don't mind. Chult is pretty cool.

>>53604014
Rules for adventuring in the jungle, rules for parasites and diseases, haunted and creepy locations, ruined sites, terrifying monsters.

>>53604114
Anywhere outside the Sword Coast is :thumbsup: at this point

>>53604102
Boy do I hope they massively improve the UA content if that's true, because otherwise, there is no point to buying that book.

Why buy a book when you can just get all the content for free, officially, online?

>>53604139
>parasites and diseases
yes please

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>Group plans out a larger than usual session to introduce some friends to the game
>8 fucking players + DM
>Supposed to fit into a 700sq.ft. apartment that has virtually zero air circulation, a loud as fuck pet bird, and air so thick you can taste it on your tongue
>Normally play just 2 players + DM into that same space and it's still stuffy and crowded
>NOPE.jpg
What are the worst circumstances you've ever played under anons?

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>party encounters a rooster in a single room
>it's secretly a white rabbit

>>53604181
Why don't you try playing outside you sweaty nerds.

>>53604114
I've come up with some fun character concepts based off the limited information about the setting i've found. It's different enough to be refreshing. Would have preferred non FR though.

>>53604181
Why are the 8 players all fucking? That's fucking disgusting.

>>53604114
Yeah, I agree, I wish this campaign was set in Sword Coast, such an undeveloped place on this edition.

>>53604221

I would agree. But I think it'd be more along the lines of disgusting fucking. They are tabletop gamers after all.

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>>53604208
Arizona. We play outside in the winter but it doesn't do much for us in the summer.

>>53604221
>he's never been to a tabletop fuck session before

Missing out, man

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>mfw the new adventure isn't in the sword coast

>>53604114

When's Eberron.

>>53604070
His damage was so-so but not horrid. It was reliable. 2d6 cantrip ain't bad when it's an AoE.

The real power was his being able to pass around essentially free healing potions, cheese the environment with Acid Flask (since it does automatic, maximized damage to objects and structures), and keep Shield up on three people at once if he wanted. The magic-items-for-free were great, too. Clockwork Bird Scout was useful.

I, on the other hand, did 1d8 damage every round which quickly petered out in usefulness and my only useful combat power was Occluded Mind, which got used to make enemies disarm themselves or otherwise waste a turn doing nothing because my DM isn't a dummy who'd let me have enemies kill each other every turn

Hardest module in 5e?

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>>53604286
>>53604247
If they're all like pic related I'm goddamn there.

>>53604114
The only place I'd want to go more than Chult that's part of mainland Faerun (so not Maztica or anything) is Damara so we could fuck up Castle Perilous again.

But Chult is actually way cooler than Damara. I just like Castle Perilous and Zhengyi.

>>53604152
Because all the UA content they've put out has been very explicitly "test content", so if it's reprinted for the new book chances are some of it is going to be changed due to feedback.

>>53604349
HotDQ because it's a dumpsterfire of an adventure.

>>53604366
They didn't change Swashbuckler

>>53604349
HotDQ because HA HA DRAGONS FALL YOU DIE
SKT if your DM plays the giants with an Int higher than 6
Toughest legitimate module is probably PotA. It's got a lot of long dungeons and none of it is particularly bullshit, but you'll get surprised by a few things since it has such a large enemy variety and can get mobbed down. The main enemy groups are also intelligent and can adapt to your bullshit.

>>53604352
A new Cold Lands adventure where you try to remove the Damaran usurper Yarin Frostmantle and restore the Dragonbane dynasty as well as try to thwart the plans of the Warlock Knights of Vaasa and it all finally ends up raiding Castle Perilous again and another showdown with the Witch-King WOULD be rad.

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How do you guys play your enemies?

How smart are they? What tactics do they take? Do they ever go for grapples? Do they take hostages? What about downed players? Do they disregard them? If they see a Cleric bring someone back from being downed, do they start targeting downed people?

What is the smartest you are willing to make a character before you draw the line?

>>53604181
In the dining area of a supermarket at 2 AM

>>53604181
>complaining about playing in a 63m2 apartment

Listen here you little shit, our group plays in a 20m2 apartment and I've held parties of way over 9 people in my 45m2 apartment, where we stayed in one room. You go play that and be thankful for the group and game.

>>53604444
This actually depends on the Int of the enemy in question and if he's an NPC his personality; I never make them smarter then their stats say they are and sometimes they have other priorities.

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If a druid takes levels in monk, can he be a bear/wolf/whatever that knows martial arts?

>>53604451
Sounds perfect for a post-apocalyptic game

>>53604484
Close.
It was Shadowrun

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Oh, anyone notice the similarities between these two?

>>53604474
No because animals don't have unarmed strikes.

>>53604474
RAW yes. A lot of DMs will say no. Personally I would only allow it if the animal is at least vaguely humanoid in terms of limbs (so ape is fine, bear is questionable, mouse is a no).

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>>53604499
And

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>>53604442
MY GIGANIGGA
>call it Siege Perilous
>double meanings ahoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omz4pHuM5zU#t=1m05

>>53604501
Claws count as melee weapon strikes?

>>53604474
Yes, but it would be a standard monk unarmed strike, not their standard attacks. See
>http://www.sageadvice.eu/2016/03/21/how-do-wild-shape-attacks-interact-with-unarmed-strikes/
>but a Druid/Monk in Wild Shape can still perform a head-butt type attack as an unarmed strike, right?
>Any creature can make an unarmed strike, as defined in the Player's Handbook.

>>53604501
They do, you just can't use their base beast attacks as unarmed strikes.

>>53604474
Yeah.
>they don't know about Crane Style, Snake Fist, Eagle Claw, etc.

>>53604531
Claws are natural weapons.

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>>53604534
>Kung Fu Panda xDD
>but he can only do headbutts

>>53604534
So would their be any actual benefit from doing this or would I just be memeing?

>>53604559
Nobody said anything about Kung Fu Panda. The original poster asked if a wild shaped druid-monk know martial arts, and the answer is yes.

>>53604526
Several double-meanings there.

>>53604444
Starting off the humanoid enemies won't be too smart and will simply attack before easing into more advanced things. I want to give my players a chance to wise up by stating what's around.

>>53604573
Maybe viable at very low levels when the animals have more hp than you.

>>53604573
If you're a wolf/dire wolf you'd benefit from pack tactics, I guess. Otherwise you'd pretty much just be memeing.

>>53604519
It's Acererak. He's been in several pieces of 5E art.

>>53604548
You're attacking with your claws, not attacking with your Claws. Does that make sense?

It works like this:
You can either play entirely like you're a Monk who just happens to be a bear today, making normal unarmed strikes and using your Dexterity instead of Strength if you want and having all that sweet unarmed progression die according to the Martial Arts table, the bonus action unarmed attack, Flurry of Blows, etc.
Or you can take what is essentially a weapon attack using your beast form's weapon as any normal Druid would, ignoring any benefits that MA might give like Dex-as-AB/Dam or triggering your bonus action unarmed hit.

The ideal way to balance this is to say that you pick either or for a round. None of that "I attack with my giant elk's Antlers and deal 3d12+Str and knock prone on a DC15 strength check, then as my Extra Attack I make an unarmed strike with my hoof for 1d6+Dex, and then bonus action attack again for 1d6+Dex". Don't mix and match. You are either entirely kungfu-ing that turn or you're not.

>>53604186
for what purpose?

>>53604575
The title alone makes it deserve a module.

How was Mike Mearls as a DM?

>>53604526
Zhengyi is kind of the most stereotypical "dark lord" sort of guy in Faerun.
Seems a lot of the others are more into conspiracies rather then massing huge armies of orcs and shit to take over everything.

>>53604645
He seems fun.

>>53604621
>It's Acererak. He's been in several pieces of 5E art.
Does this mean all artwork that Wizards have included in their works to date will give us a clue as to what will come out in future products?

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Which dragonborn color would you pick for a lawful good paladin?

Are convoluted rules questions allowed here?

If so, how does one determine the speed in which a player can fall from a great height?

The scenario is that my character was picked up by a Roc and carried away. I was able to break free and I want to know how many turns it takes me to fall to the ground from a height of 240 feet.

>>53604671
Which is why he's awesome. All those other guys never get anywhere. Zhengyi just made a fucking of zombies and monsters when no one was looking and rolled over everything in his way. No muss, no fuss. He's a practical lich. What the fuck are the rest of the liches doing? Just sitting in their holes studying magic and jerking off. Acererak isn't even going to get to have any fun before a party of level appropriate adventurers knock down his door and ruin his day. At least Zhengyi got to murder tens of thousands of people and strike fear into several countries.

>>53604704
Good question.
I'd say "no" or "unlikely", personally.

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>Oath of the Ancients Paladin
>Personality of a tree hugging Darwinist who has a hard on for the 2nd Amendment, RULES OF NATURE ABOVE ALL ELSE type nature fanatic
>While exploring to eliminate a lycanthrope (disgusting hybrid of nature, humanity, and dark magic), find out that this lycanthrope uses his time as a human to care for a number of injured wolf pups whose mother died recently
>"Sorry Mr. Werewolf, it's nice that you're keeping these pups alive here but you're still an abomination. Time to die."
>After killing werewolf, DM asks what we do with the wolf pups
>peta pally responds, "Leave them there."
>Bleeding heart party member responds: "...But before we fought, you assured the werewolf that the pups would be taken care of no matter what happened. You can't just leave them there, that breaks your oath."
>"Yeah I said the pups would be taken care of, not that WE would take care of them. Nature takes care itself. If the pups are meant to live then they will fight and find a way. If they are not, then another predator will come by and consume them. That is how nature works. Through human interference to keep animals alive longer than they should be, you are only creating a stunted animal reliant upon humans. To you it may seem barbaric, but understand that nature does not operate by human standards of morality."
>Other party member: "You still can't just leave them here. By choosing to abandon these injured pups, you are choosing death for them. You know a young, injured animal like this cannot survive no matter what. You are killing these pups by abandoning them."
Who was in the right here? The PETA pally who wanted to let nature handle nature, or the party members who said that abandoning the pups is breaking the oath of someone sworn to protect nature?

>>53604727
>"Feather Fall allows one to fall at 60 ft. per round (6 sec.), or at a speed of 10 fps without suffering damage. Free-fall, which is injurious, should be faster than that. A little high-school physics will tell us that a body falling freely (assuming g=32 ft/s2) for 10 ft. will attain a final speed of ~25 fps"

According to google it's give or take 25 feet per second.

>>53604711
Gold, obviously.

>>53604727
4 seconds depending on your weight.

>>53604711
Silver. Make him prone to boasting as a flaw and claim he's actually platinum.

Ruty "the Railmaster" Rutenberg

>>53604014
Wait what's in Xanathars? UA?

>>53604729
He also kind of got killed straight off while those other guys are still kicking around, so there IS a logical reason for them to play the longer game. It's not like they're at a lack for time or anything.
He seems to be one of the few liches who ego overruled his intelligence, though honestly how much of what he did was what he wanted to do and how much was Orcus pulling his strings is unknown.

....wait a minute, what was Orcus doing during Out of the Abyss? We never saw him, did we? Where was he?

>>53604799
Orcus was supposed to be part of a novel with Drizzt but that deal on that fell through.

>>53604727
>If so, how does one determine the speed in which a player can fall from a great height?
High School physics. Terminal velocity for a human is around 53 m/s. The distance required to reach that is
53/2/9.81=2.7 meters, which is negligible.
240 feet is ~73 meters, so you should hit the ground in roughly 3 seconds.

How many DMs here allow homebrew things in their game? How many players use Homebrew races/classes?

>>53604793
Ruty "The Train Doesn't Go There" Rutenberg
Ruty "I Only Wrote a Boat Fight" Rutenberg
Ruty "Cancell the Books" Rutenberg
Ruty "Shut it down!" Rutenberg
Ruty "No Pee Breaks on this Train" Rutenberg

>>53604727
Rounds take 6 seconds each, so by DnD rules, you would fall for... 40 rounds? It's best not to apply real life logic.

>>53604841
Human body reaches terminal velocity in only 2.7 meters? Why does a 10 meter fall hurt way more than a 2.7 meter fall then?

>>53604745
From PHB on Oath of the Ancients
>This oath emphasizes the principles of good above any concerns of law or chaos
Would imply that you should do the good thing and keep the pups alive, rather than just saying survival of the fittest and letting things die.
In the end though it's your character, do whatever the fuck you want.

>>53604745
The Paladin is right, but the rest of the party is also correct. Both options are moral in their own way.

Animals die in nature all the time. We can help those we see but ultimately nature will be nature.

I would have sided with the paladin.

>>53604855
>>53604793
Wat.

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>>53604855
>berg
Every time.

>>53604902
No, I'm just really shit at math. I just realized I fucked up, a lot.

>>53604749
>>53604772
>>53604841
Thanks lads, seems like this should be something covered in the players handbook. I really appreciate the help.

I am a cleric with death ward active. My plan was to turn myself into a missle and crash into a Stone Giant, steering myself with the wings granted from radiant soul. Unfortunately my scumbag party killed him.

>>53604860
The DM wanted me to fall at 30ft/turn. I was thinking this made no sense.

>>53604820
Hmmm....I might be able to do something with that then....

>>53604745
PETA paladin followed his oath, because I'm assuming he protects the "rule/order" that nature follows, something the werewolf violated both with his existence and his adoption of the pups. You protect the sanctity and purity of nature itself, not necessarily its denizens.

That said, no one's in the wrong or right here. Bleeding heart party member can adopt the pups or whatever, who gives a shit.

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>>53604745
Oath of Ancients seems like it is heavily based on the Green Knight from Arthurian legend. It seems like the Paladin is going for a more druidic approach. Personally I find his interpretation to be more interesting than what the books says but yes, if you wanted to be a rules lawyer then technically the Paladin is misguided.

>>53604799
Hey, let's not say that Zhengyi just kicked the bucket like any other old lich. He got stomped by a party of guys who were strong enough to CHUMP HALF AN UNDEAD ARMY, BEAT UP A LICH, GO TO HELL, JACK ORCUS' WAND, GO TO HEAVEN, HAVE A PERSONAL CHAT WITH BAHAMUT, AND KILL AN AVATAR OF TIAMAT.

Everyone in this party was palling around with legit Gods on the regular, and Zhengyi's STILL probably "around" in some way in the crumbling not-even-ruins-for-some-reason of Castle Perilous.

>>53604772
>weight affecting fall speed
It's like he failed high school physics.

>>53604921
He had at least two moments of sperging out in in Stream of Annihilation of essentially "No you don't, you do this!" And I really hope someone has a gif of him yelling to WotC to "Cancel the book! Cancel the book!" Because his players were trying to flee into the jungle and all he had planned was popping the Zombie vomiting Dinosaur set piece before going back to his grinding boat fight.

>>53604727
>>53604841
Some research tells me a human would reach terminal velocity after falling about 573 meters, which would take 10-15 seconds. They would be moving about 54 meters per second.

>>53605014
his answer is actually roughly correct, though. 3.85s or so.

>>53604910
^ I was the guy who wrote this. I think I somewhat changed my mind about the Paladin being right. I think what he did was morally correct and I would have done what he did but I also believe that he did not act according to the principals of the Oath of the Ancients as written.

>>53604903
After reading this, and the Oath of the Ancients description, I actually think that it would be more "in-class" to save the pups.

>"The Oath of the Ancients is as old as the race of elves and the rituals of the druids. Sometimes called fey knights, green knights, or horned knights, paladins who swear this oath cast their lot with the side of the light in the cosmic struggle against darkness because they love the beautiful and life-giving things of the world, not necessarily because they believe in principals of honor, courage, and justice. They adorn their armor and clothing with images of growing things - leaves, antlers, or flowers - to reflect their commitment to preserving life and light in the world."

Someone who took the Oath of the Ancients would probably be inclined to saving the wolf pups because they have taken a "commitment to preserving life and light in the world." A Druid which is more neutral would be more likely to have the response of leaving the pups to nature. That said flaws exist, and this ancient oath paladin's darwinism could be considered one.

>>53605014
Weight does in fact have an effect on your falling speed, although it is very minute. Dropping a bowling ball and a golf ball from the same height will net different results do to wind resistance.

>>53605055
That's not weight, that's surface area and volume.

Started Storm King's Thunder with some friends tonight, first session was fun. What are we in for?

>>53605069
Should I be using the word "mass" instead of "weight"?

>>53605014
I mean, we could assume a fatter guy is physically larger and suffers from increased air resistance.

>>53605070
Apparently shit, because a lot of people on here dislike it.

>>53605070
2-4 more fun sessions, with one of them pitting you against a giant and you'll go "woah that was a fun boss".

Then the module turns heavily un-fun as you fight a whole dungeon of things that completely outclass you and your only options are the DM going way too easy on you or beating you over the head with the module's preferred method for winning the dungeon via non-combat means.

>>53605082
No, weight is perfectly appropriate here since all the adventurers are subject to the planet's gravity. And if they're not, they're probably a Nomad.

>>53605000
It also looks rather like those "Elven Knight" kits that were "pseudopaladins" from 2e.

>>53604499
>Sphere of Annihilation mouth in the background
I hope that's the entrance to the dungeon, just to fuck with people who recognize it.

>>53605204
>implying we don't have the party Alchemist use his never-ending bag of acid to dissolve holes straight to whatever we're looking for through every wall and floor

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>3rd Level - Channel Divinity: Sacred Weapon. This one is pretty good.
>3rd Level - Channel Divinity: Turn the Unholy. Situational but the expected anti-undead/fiend skill from Paladins. Not very useful but acceptable.
>7th Level - Aura of Devotion: An aura that negates charm effects for 10 feet for yourself and friendlies. Situational. Useful where necessary but sheesh.
>15th Level - Purity of Spirit: Wow. You get an always-active level 1 spell. That is also situational. I think I'm seeing a trend here.
>20th Level - Holy Nimbus: You become a lightbulb. Okay. The AoE 10 radiant damage/turn is great but it only lasts for 1 minute per long rest. Still fairly nice, I guess.

Why is the Oath of Devotion so bad?

>>53605237

paladin smites + smite spells stop the rest of the kit from being too fun/good

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Guys, check this out.

>>53605237
It only seems shit because the rest of the archetypes tend towards being so obscenely good. The archetype not giving you too much powerful stuff was obviously intended to be a check on the power of the base class, as >>53605251

We can conclude that Devotion was the first archetype they concocted, and everything after that was Perkins playing Paladin Superhero Power Fantasy and trying to cram as much bullshit as possible into his pet class.

>>53605281
Action economy says that guy is fucked. Those skellingtons are going to resist the damage of all his swords and rapiers, too.

Okay guys, my DM does a thing called "geometric" fall damage, so that falling 10 feet does 1d6 damage, 20 feet 3d6, 30 feet 6d6, 40 feet 10d6, 50 feet 15d6, and 60 feet 21d6. He caps out the damage at 60 feet.

First of all, is this a better system than default?
Second, how can this be broken?

>>53605237
>implying anything after level 11 is ever relevant

Devotion is good. Both channel divinity options are strong, and negating charm is both very powerful and is relevant quite often (unless your dm is the kind of asshole that never uses effects the party is capable of ignoring).

>>53605281
That's some sick shit right there. Where did you find it?

What's the most killedest you're party has ever killed a guy? Who was the most killedest guy?

Last thread someone said
>None of the Gods are going to sign a pact with the Evil guys ever again because the last time they did that Asmodeus fucked 'em all over because they suck at reading legalese.
Can anyone tell me which story this is about? I'd like to read on how Asmodeus fucked them over.

>open dragon name generator
>'Endryr, The Bunny Killer'
>first result
I don't think I've ever seen a pink dragon before.

>>53605070
Did you start at lvl 1 or skip the into and go straight to lvl 5?

>>53604181
Call of Cthulhu in a long-deprecated fallout shelter half under my friend's university.
It was Halloween, and late, and we weren't supposed to know how to even get INTO that bit of the drainage tunnels much less have the keys, which naturally made it all the more tantalizing--but it was muddy as all hell from decades of rain runoff and the oil lamps he brought for mood-appropriate lighting didn't put out half as much heat as he thought they would. We were all incredibly uncomfortable the whole time. To cap it all off my friend, the GM, somehow tore his backpack as we were leaving and his books and half his notes ended up in a big muddy puddle.

We went and got coffee and shitty convenience store donuts, and commiserated for a while as he tried to salvage what he could of the book. Eventually we went back to crash at his place at around four in the morning.

A great memory to look back on, but it was all pretty shit at the time.

>>53605327
>level zero humans fall from 60 feet all the time and live, even staying conscious at the bottom of the fall before being hospitalized
>a level 6 Fighter falls from 60 feet and the averages say he's instantaneously KO'd
>a level 5 Bard falls from 60 feet and averages say he's fucking dead, full stop
dumb and gay

>>53605377
My group had a traitor who had been under some powerful possession that they did not figure out until it was too late.

That traitor was disintegrated.

The party had plans of ripping off his toes and fingers, but this happened instead.

>>53605377
well, in OotA my party ambushed a raiding party of minotaurs, quaggoths, and other assorted beasts and after 1 round, only the minotaurs remained, which swiftly got the fuck out of there.

Then, later, a group of gnolls tried to lay siege to a town we were in, after we told the DM our intentions, he didn't even bother rolling, he just removed them from the board.

Evo Wiz+Warlock+Forge Cleric, all specializing in aoe, can end encounters really fast.

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Now that the dust has settled, rank the 5e adventures from best to worst.
Hard mode: don't base this on /5eg/ memes.

>>53605401
The Pact Primeval. It's in the Fiendish Codex.

Gods were tired of having to deal with all the souls of shitty people, so Asmodeus came up with a contract that said he'd look after them and essentially run a private prison for shitty souls. Some Gods signed on, forked over all the evil souls, gave Asmodeus rulership over this new place called "Hell"...

...and then freaked the fuck out when he realized he was corrupting all the living people, trying to trick them into becoming evil so he'd get their souls when he died, ensuring they'd never be reformed, and was also sucking up all their power to make himself more hot shit.

Gargauth is still a better devil lawyer god.

>>53605377
Our rogue sneak attacked a hostile with non-lethal and we tied him up and healed him minimally to interrogate. Afterward the rogue was going to knock him out again, but managed to crit and did well over max past 0 and the DM ruled it a kill.

>>53605401
It's really unclear desu. Forgotten Realms lore says that the gods of good, neutrality, etc weren't getting enough power because their powers were derived from worship and worship was voluntary. Asmodeus introduced the concept of punishment, to give a greater incentive for mortals to worship their gods, and further increasing the power of the other gods. Eventually the gods realized that he was tempting more and more people to the cause of evil so that he could extract magical energy from their souls, and realized they fucked up.

I kind of prefer the Planescape version, where evil souls become larvae on the Lower Planes, to be harvested by devils and demons to propagate their species and by yugoloths and night hags as spell components and currency.

>>53605453
What bird is the neutral evil one?

>>53605546
cuckoo

>>53605453
Curse of Strahd
Tales from the Yawning Portal
Out of the Abyss
Lost Mine of Phandelver
Storm King's Thunder
Princes of the Apocalypse
Rise of Tiamat
Hoard of the Dragon Queen

>>53605546
Cuckoo, which lays its eggs in other birds' nests.

>>53605546

The cuckoo bird.
It's a bird that lays its eggs in other species of birds' nests and has that bird raise its babies for it.

>>53605377
Campaign we started two months ago. Last week we find a scroll and couldn't identify it. Wizard is a complete noob who had zero useful spells, all damage all the time. Same for our other casters because they'd assumed he had them. He'd previously been using scrolls of identify that he'd purchased when our characters went around town.

So, we're getting to the end of this section we're in and we run into the boss. The Cheshire Cat in Rakshasa form. I recognized it immediately when he described the boss and just stared the DM down. CR 13 creature when we're 7th level.

It starts beating the absolute fuck out of us. We do the same to him. Suddenly, his fucking mouth pops off his face and flies 60ft. away and his arms pop off and get behind the now mouthless and armless body and summons a hurdy-gurdy and starts playing a song.

The mouth starts singing and the DM tells us that we can feel our sanity slipping. We subconsciously start thinking blue is red, water is dry and chicken tastes like orc.

My character freaks and pulls out the unknown scroll and immediately uses it because what the fuck.

DM stares at me in shock.

Meteor comes flying down out of the sky and lands in the middle of the three parts of the Rakshasa, the explosion launches us all 100ft. and our cleric barely manages to survive with 1 HP and then whips out his Wand of Cure Wounds to save the rest of us who are dying.

Nothing left of the Rakshasa. Nothing. Not even the magical Astral Compass he'd stolen that we needed to find one of the three surviving companions of an ancient artificer lord whose secret treasury we're trying to find.

>>53605565
>>53605578
>>53605584
Neat

>>53605603
No, cuckoos are the worst.

>>53605603
It's where cuck comes from.

>>53605281
sauce?

>>53605637
OH! How did I not pick up on that?

>>53605666
Because you're a cuck.

>>53604384
Swashbuckler was fine already. They reworded one of the third-level abilities to make it less ambiguous. It definitely turned out as one of the stronger rogue archetypes but it's not insane

>>53605707
Do most people here prefer Swashbuckler or Arcane Trickster? I personally prefer Swashbuckler due to ease of use and improved initiative, also half-elves with Booming Blade work well with it!

>>53605501
Fiendish Codex's Pact Primeval stuff isn't FR specific lore, I think. It's default D&D, since all through 3rd and 3.5e WotC kept trying to divorce FR from Planescape and such by giving it a separate cosmology to the baseline D&D setting (the Great Tree, specifically, rather than the Wheel), unless 5e made it FR lore now.

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OK MAGGOT, GIVE ME FIVE THINGS YOU CAN FIND DEFENDING A WIZARD'S TOWER, NOW!

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>>53605807

>>53605807
Animated Armor
Flying Sword
Every variety of golem
Wizard apprentices
Contracted demons
Tamed blink dogs
Tamed displacer beasts
Tamed basilisks
Various types of undead
A mind-controlled storm giant

That's all the stuff I've seen regarding wizard towers in the past seven years.

>>53605807
Clay golem, flesh golem, stone golem, iron golem, Shield Guardian

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What is the best way to optimize a Monk?

Haven't been watching the stream, what have they announced and has it been as cringe worthy as I expect it to be?

>>53605807

Animated river of lava.
Animated river of acid.
Animated river of lightning.
Animated river of bones.
Animated river of urine.

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>>53605874

>>53605807
A horde of tiny screaming skeletons.
An animated potion cabinet, destroying it causes 1d4 Wild Surge effects.
One of those bullshit teleportation puzzles.
A succubus who was summoned to tempt would-be robbers but is really just sick of her job.
A magic mouth, all it does is narrate the characters' actions really loudly, alerting anyone nearby.
The dance floor... Of death!

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>>53605661
>>53605303
>>53605370
From here.

>>53605848
>Animated Armor
Speaking of which, would you let spells like heat metal buff or damage animated objects like that?

>>53605902
>a magic mouth, all it does is narrate the characters' actions really loudly, alerting anyone nearby.

I'm fucking stealing this.

>>53605807
A djinn lies to all intruders about being forced to always lie.

>>53605916
I'm asking for a more specific source than that. Like a link to the artist or something.

>>53605902
Shit, that's six. Four more to make it an even ten:
Animated cookware, sees the PCs as ingredients.
The Roc Roost, and its caretakers.
A false treasure room, all the gold is just painted replicas.
The pillow golem. Puts anyone it hits to sleep, then places them gently outside.

>>53605917

Its hard to say. The entry on Helmed Horrors suggests theyre often made immune to spells like Heat Metal, so I would assume they would work very well, and maybe even have vulnerability to that spell.

>>53605917
When I send animated armor out to fight people, I like to get creative.

Basically:
Hit it with Fire Bolt, metal heats up, it's attacks now deal 1d4 extra fire damage. One more turn of Fire Bolt and it goes up to 1d6. Someone hits it with a Ray of Frost while it's glowing red-hot? Auto-crit.

>>53605948
>The pillow golem.
Tickle Monster
Cuddle Bears
Snuggle Bunny
Kissy Pup

That would, no shit, cause my players more distress than any horror you could think of. They would nope that shit so fast.

>>53605827
>>53605848
>>53605855
>>53605869
>>53605874
>>53605902
>>53605948
>>53605956

EXCELLENT WORK, PRIVATES, BUT NO ONE LIKES AN OVER-ACHIEVER! NOW GIVE ME A UNIQUE PREMISE FOR A 45 MINUTE SOLO CAMPAIGN, OR YOU'LL BE SCRUBBING THE LATRINES WITH A TOOTH BRUSH!

>>53605985
A wizard tasks a group to find his lost cat named Fluffy that turns out to be a Displacer Beast.

>>53605759
I think it depends on how your DM interprets the cantrip minor illusion. Ours is lenient and so out arcane trickster keeps using it to create mobile arrow slit walls, which provide cover for his Crossbow Expert attacks, and enemies must actively dedicate themselves to an Int check to disbelieve the wall. This has inspired others in the group to also take up arcane trickster.

>>53605985
Thieves break into sorcerer's tower, steal his pleasure golem. You have to track down and return the golem without anyone knowing who the golem's owner is.

>>53605948
>The pillow golem. Puts anyone it hits to sleep, then places them gently outside.
That's hilarious.

>>53605956
>>53605961
Applying physics it is then.

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>>53606026
I meant logic, fuck.

>>53605985
Pacifist low-level bard rescues a damsel in distress from her captors, which would individually be capable of killing him in fair combat

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>>53604014

>>53605985
Something is wiping out all motivation. You must find and destroy the source of apathy before everything dies of not giving a shit
Bonus: the closer you get, the less you desire to achieve your goal.

I know, it's not original, nothing is. Fuck off.

>>53605985
An aspiring bard is looking for inspiration for his poems, but he's all out of ideas and would like to shadow the player while they're out adventuring, taking them as his muse.

>>53605985
Player starts on a ship and the ship sinks. They wake up on a beach and collect weapons, armor and other equipment from bits of the ship that made it the shore.

They realize that they're on the tip of a peninsula about a mile from a large lighthouse. While making their way over there, they fight their way through bullywugs, eventually reaching the lighthouse where they discover a 1st/2nd level bullywug warlock using a strange crystal orb to manipulate the ocean that he's able to see from the vantage point.

Player finds notes from the previous occupant, a wizard, who was studying said orb and was worried of people misusing its powers for profit or causing peril. Which is what the bullywugs were doing.

If the adventure continues, have all the players meet up after having discovered their own versions of these orbs (earth orb that causes sinkholes/earthquakes, fire orb that causes wildfires, wind orb that causes hurricanes, etc.).

Queue an epic quest to discover the origin of these orbs and maybe discover why the world's weather is getting a little out of hand.

>>53605985
Wizard hires adventurer to lure gelatinous cube into square pit from nearby dungeon so he can build an outhouse.

>>53606052

A graceful, disgusting solution

>>53605477
Except the DM doesn't get to rule that, you do.

>>53606052
This needs to happen.

>>53605869
Tomb of Annihilation, adventure in Chult with Acerack fucking around with death creating zombie dinosaurs and possibly putting a time cap on how long previously dead people can continue to live; said to be done in an Indiana Jones-style, and is due out in September. Xanathar's Guide to Everything, printing of various UA GM rules and the "higher rated" subclasses, as well as some extra things, written from Xanathar's perspective, due out November; limited edition cover available. Betrayal at Baldur's Gate, basically Betrayal at the House on the Hill with a D&D skin, though it sounds like scenarios may have been prepared a bit better. Green Devil tin case with green dice.

Rest is typical stuff. New module is coming to Fantasy Grounds and Roll20. Gale Force Nine is making accessories. Wizkids is putting out miniatures.

Games themselves were a mixed bag. Some were pretty great, a good amount were mediocre, and the rest were pretty annoying.

>>53605985
A local count is boning a grain nymph that lives in a wheat field and is refusing to let the town harvest any wheat. Bread supplies are starting to run low, and the town is getting nervous and suspicious of their ruler. The adventurer must find a solution to this town's problem.

Holy shit, the Mike Mearls game with all of those players is actually pretty fucking good.

>>53604711

Bronze, easily. The most paladin-y of them all and actually has the best looking metallic dragon design.

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Is there any way to make a Monk not shitty?

>>53606204
Magic items.

>>53606204
Point buy? Pick a race with bonuses to Dex and Wis, like Wood Elf, or Variant Human with Mobile.
Str 8 Dex 16 Con 14 Int 10 Wis 16 Cha 8
Hit and run with mobile. Stun shit. Increase your Dex then your Wis. IIRC Monks don't really need any feats aside from mobile.

>>53606188
Mearls and Aussies were both quite enjoyable

>>53606145
Cheers man. ToA should be fun at least.

>>53606145
Which games would you rate the best and worst and why?
Everyone please.

>>53605807
Boulder traps where the boulders are full of monsters.
Pit traps where the ledge on the other side is either illusory and leads to more pit trap or a pressure plate for other traps.
Rope bridges where certain strands glow with different color energies/light. Runes of matching lights on the other side. The door out is locked. No puzzle. Door's lock works backwards, appearing locked when open, and appearing open when locked. The puzzle is just a distraction as the room fills with deady poison.
An area that looks just like the first room to give the illusion they have to start over. All puzzles or traps work incorrectly and activate instead when previously successful methods are attempted.
Minotaurs.

>>53606395
Players dodge the boulder only for it to crack open like a big egg and a swarm of rust monsters appears. I like it.

>>53606268
I found the Aussies obnoxious.

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What are the rules with Smith’s tools?

I have no clue how the heck it would even begin to work.

>>53606306
See >>53606268 for my opinion. The all-girl group was not very good but Mercer is a good enough DM that he made it work. The last game (run by Dylan Sprouse) was better than I expected but not anazing.

>>53606485
What are you confused about specifically?

>>53606258
This exactly.

Mobile is all you need. People talk about monks having too little HP. The idea is to not stay around to get hit. They work great as skirmishers.

If you're never gonna be able to get away, then you spend a ki point to dodge.
Otherwise, run in, punch/stun, what you can. Run away.

>>53606485
Look in the Downtime UA. There's a section for crafting. Essentially a character with proficiency in Smith's tools could make armor and weapons by spending half of its listed price in resources and 1/50th of the price in workweeks.
>studded leather would cost 22 gp and take 1 workweek
>splint would cost 100 gp and take 4 workweeks
>plate would cost 750 gp and take 30 workweeks

>>53606516
>Dylan Sprouse
lol what the fuck, isn't he one of those child actors?
He plays/runs D&D?

I'm looking for a ranged option to use against fliers for my melee Str Fighter. Is it better to throw a single Javelin or to take multiple pot shots with a Bow? My plan is that when I hit I use Trip Attack to knock them to the ground.

>>53606549
There's other throwing weapons you can use for multiple attacks.

Personally, I hope they HEAVILY cut down on the time requirements for the Downtime stuff for Unearthed Arcana. Eleven weeks to sell a magic item of Rare value is just silly, and the Clergic work had no real benefit after a day or two.

>>53606549
Javelins are good. Try to see if your DM will let you RP it so that your javelins drag down your opponents. Actually, that depends on the opponents; what are you fighting?

>>53606547
He was Zach on Zach & Cody, yes. He said he found his grandfather's red box when he was a kid and has been playing ever since. He runs that one and plays in a few more (the Maze Arcana one and I think also the Mearls one).

Has anyone else played kobold press adventures for 5e? My group has been running them and I'm starting to get concerned about my wizards survivability with their fondness for repeating AoE Con save damage effects.

We're level 3 now, and the tankier members of the party have more than twice my HP. Which means if they keep this up, I'm going to go from having a 75% chance of going unconscious and having to make save or die throws, to having a 75% chance outright die when this bullshit goes off.

>>53606560
You can only throw one weapon though because it takes your object interaction to draw one.

>>53606564
Well It's curse of Strahd and in our last session there was a bunch of crows that our Sorc took care of with a fireball. For me it's not so much about what we're fighting as much as me not wanting to ever be useless in a fight, even if a single Javelin isn't much.

>>53606561
House rules. In our games, all 3 of us regular DMs agreed that the best way to handle selling magic items or acquiring specific ones is through auction houses or merchant organizations.

It also creates some fun RP encounters.
Ex: PCs buy a badass dagger made out of ice that is obviously magical in a crazy bidding war and a bag of holding in an auction.

When they leave the auction house, rich people start trying to get them to sell it. If they don't, when they leave the city, they're ambushed and have to fight their way out. Then, they can opt to never return to the city or find out who sent the attackers and return for revenge.

>>53606606
Javelins are better for fighters, imo. Unless you're going a DEX build, stick with the javelin.

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Am I just retarded, why cant I find the season 6 modules in the megatrove?

>>53604384
Yes they did.

>>53606037
>A readable, digital old-school Forgotten Realms PDF
Where did you get this, anon? Are there more?

>the D&D Beyond versions of books that you purchase will be complete copies of the books with all their content, including artwork
>accessible on the site in presumably HTML format
This seems... super exploitable.

>>53606786
How?

>>53606801
Anything exposed to a browser that's not obfuscated by some sort of plugin bullshit (like a Java or Flash embeds that are blocked by default in both Firefox and Chrome and that have been considered poor practice for over a decade) can be ripped, resaved, and distributed with ease, even by a lay user. The developer consoles on all modern browsers ensure this.

>>53606693
Tales from the Yawning Portal? It's right there

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>>53605327
The obvious answer is the Thief-Acrobat.

>>53606740
Yes, and that's ALL of them.
For free, online.
Just search the name of the book and say "PDF" and this "dndremz" site will take your right to it.

>>53606877
In the Adventurer's League folder? All I see are seasons 1 - 5. I see Yawning Portal in the Adventures Folder but its still packaged as one giant campaign. I'm looking for the modular versions where its all separate, which I know exists as I've seen Thousand Tiny Deaths

FR newbie here with a query.
What's the canonical explanation for the Monks in Faerun for having knowledge of Eastern-style mysticism?

>>53604621
>Don't mix and match.
>Ideal
Well fuck you too, buddy.

>>53606786
D&D Beyond? Is this like DrivethruRPG but shitty or something?

>>53606915
Have you been in a cave for the last six months?

It's 5e's official digital product, developed by Curse. It's in open beta right now and will be introducing a character creator and manager by the end of the month.

>>53606899
Yeah that's not there, didn't realize you wanted the individual modules, sorry.

>>53606907
There isn't one because it's not "Eastern-style" anything in Faerun.
Though Faerun does indeed have Kara-Tur, the monk-style Ki manipulation techniques are not actually "from" there and people in Faerun have had knowledge of how to do them for a VERY long time (three thousand years at least based on the timeline), so Monks and their esoteric martial skills have been around pretty much forever to Faerunians.

They aren't necessarily that widespread largely because it takes a lot of time and commitment to develop those sorts of abilities and learning to stab someone with a sword is a lot faster and a lot easier to learn.
And actually, Kara-Tur doesn't actually have Monks with any greater frequency then Faerun does, with the lands of that region still mostly using regular fighters and the like.

>>53606922
>Have you been in a cave for the last six months?

Something like that. I just figured it was WotC's scheme to avoid biting the bullet on retailining PDFs of the core books ever since Touhoufag caused them to pull the plug.

I want to play pure evocation wizard! I won't be blasting that much, since I usually spend my spell resource during social and exploration part of the game, but it'll be fun when I do!

>>53606936
Is there anyone here who has it in modular forms, I'm lazy and dont want to read the entirety

>>53605237
Why are you so bad? Oath of Devotion is solid.

>>53606414
Stolen from my DM, except in his case, it was fiendish dinosaurs.

>>53606991
>NOT DIVINATION
>2017

YOU HAVE A LOT TO LEARN

>>53607069
I'm just imagining a massive boulder cracking open and a fucking T-Rex or Allosaurus pops out and starts chomping.

>>53605410
It's a crossbreed of white and red. Has both of their immunities, but its breath weapon is a cloud of pink fluff, hence the nickname.

There is now.

So where can I see the games now that they've passed?

Youtube? Twitch?

>>53605859
To play a Fighter, instead

>>53605902
>The dance floor... Of death!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTnZmtUjYBg

>>53605902
>The dance floor... Of death!
Dammit, Heigen. Stop dropping acid and fight us.

>>53605327
I saw it break in the Meatgrinder where the halforc fell, what, 200 ft? Only to be reduced to 1 hit point

>>53606991
>>53607086
>not Abjuration
>not defense-ing people to death
ISHYGDDT

>>53607091
Allosaur and like six raptor things. The boulder was not nearly large enough for all of them.

Final boss was a the wizard riding a fiendish apatosaurus.

>everyone else in the party has flat or negative cha mod
>my wizard has +2 so I'm the de facto face

Fuck, I don't play faces and I'm not good at in person roleplaying. How do I be a good face?

>>53607569
Be nice to people when you can be.

>>53607569
It's no more impossible for you to pretend to be a good face than it is for you to pretend you are lifting boulders or sneaking quieter than a shadow.

>>53607569
2 options, either don't be the face, its not like your character has to be the one acting out most interactions just because of a higher stat, or you play it up as making sensible plans, working problems/issues out logically, and being somewhat helpful while being the smartest guy around.

Instead of appeal to emotions, just BE RIGHT.

>>53607181
D&D's twitch has videos archived of all games/announcements. They said they'd put them up on YouTube, but it'll probably take a day or two.

>>53606956
>Touhoufag caused them to pull the plug.
Wat.

Speaking of urine forests did anyone else think that Stream of Annihilation sounds like a symptom of a magical STI?

Does anyone have a not shit/balanced cleric domain for god of money? My rogue just got one of his arms replaced by the god of money and I kind of want to take a level in cleric to mark it.

Also does anybody have/know of a witch class that doesn't suck ass/is balanced?

Why are homebrews generally so shitty? kinda can't believe our DM lets us use

>>53607880
Homebrew is fine for minor patches and tweaks to the existing structure or classes, but when you invent new shit out of nowhere it tends to be hit or miss. Usually miss.

What was the best part of Stream of Annihilation and why was it a bunch of Australians being cunts

>>53607946
Aussies were best because they were actually funny. The other good games were the ones that didn't try to be funny/clever. The bad games (like the qt girl one) had """comedians""" who were just irritating.

>>53607946
Yep, and the Tower of the Curator and the Dice Camera Action game. Shows you that rules don't have to be in the way of an awesome game. Just roll with it and the game is meant to be about the players.

>>53607569
Intimidate everything with the threat of fireballs , talk normally to try and persuade someone with regular logic, lie like Barnie from ''How i met your mother''.

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>>53604014
I was wanting to run a dark sun game my group will only play 5e. What changes to systerm should I made to reflect the setting more?

>>53608068
Once Tomb of Annihilation comes out you might get some good rules for increasing deadliness. Beyond that, you'll have to make sure the players are keeping track of rations (normally this is handwaved but in Dark Sun it's life or death), and obviously you'll have to restrict classes.

Has anyone ran OotA with the time travel from Maze Engine?

Players will start traveling about next session.

Maybe it would be fun if a demon lord traveled back in time with them?

>>53608068

Old Dark Sun started at level 3 by default, but I would be curious to try having my players roll 3 level 1 characters a piece, and then seeing how long they last through some opening gauntlet, like a gladiator tournament or a slaver attack. Any surviving characters would go on to escape death/enslavement and participate in a proper adventure.

Like >>53608085 said be an asshole about rations. Be an even bigger asshole about giving them metal weapons that don't break (note - make rules for how their shitty bone/rock weapons break).

Maybe feature one magic item the entire campaign. And guess what? They have to pry it out of the BBEG's cold dead hands.

>>53608141

You... you did that? You couldn't have just rerolled?

I mean, I understand letting fate decide things, but... aw man, what a fucking pain.

Start *all* of that over? Like some DBZ Snake Road shit? Aw man, no. No way. I'd reroll 100% of the time.

That said, fuck yeah have a demon go back with them, maybe have it fuck up even more shit, so that a once-familiar place has become corrupted ahead of time.

>>53607569
>tfw negative cha mod
>tfw the "face" most of the time anyways since I like to interact with NPCs
Good thing my DM rarely requires rolls for social interaction successes.

>>53608190
I asked them and they voted to do it.

They get to keep their memories, level, equipment and magical items. So they have enjoyed steamrolling all the drow at the beginning. The paladin one shot killed the drow priestess with divine smite - She had previously dogged them from level 1 to level 10 and was hated by all

Looking for some ideas, /5eg/ anons.

For the past little bit in my campaign, I've been setting it up that there has been an increasing degree of "weird shit" happening on the continent that the players have been on. This has all been leading up to a "minor" Far Realm incursion where a rift is going to split open between the Material Plane and the Far Realm, and I want "cosmic radiation" to mutate that section of the land underneath the rift.

Currently, I've got it planned out that the rift opens up above a healthy forest near the ocean, about a week's travel from a decently-sized town. I already have descriptions ready for what the stuff does to the trees (some become fleshy, others go aetherial/translucent) and the land (it becomes glassed and turns into a super slick surface), but how would you guys recommend I have it affect the animals, and what sort of unique traits would occur?

This particular forest is home to wolves, bears, various birds (hawks, owls, etc.), and cougars, with there being a small bandit camp (occupied by humans, half-orcs, and half-elves) who are looking to GTFO before the changes to the animals and plants begin to affect them.

Are svirfneblin as good as they look? I'm thinking of playing an Arcane Trickster and it seems like a good choice.

Also, for someone with very little knowledge about them, how should I roleplay the average svirfneblin?

>>53608370
Try reading their entry in the elemental evil players companion and the sword coast adventurers guide

>>53608085
>>53608190
I was planning on running a campaign that placed an importance on rations and exploration and all of that (not in Dark Sun, but in a similarly rough world), and ran into some problems. I kind of realized that spells like Create/Destroy Water and Goodberry completely trivialize the issue. Do you think it'd be fair to limit those spells in some way? For example, the berries from Goodberry no longer provide any actual sustenance, but still do the healing, and the water from Create/Destroy Water isn't life-giving water and thus does not stave off thirst?

I feel like the mechanics are kind of pointless if they can be removed with a single spell slot, effectively.

Is playing a Firbolg Warlock a stupid idea? The thought occurred to me that at-will Disguise Self would fit their whole theme pretty well.

Right now I'm thinking Fighter/Feylock and taking the Blade.

>>53608458
If anything I'd change the way it works a bit. Maybe you need more then 1 goodberry to count as fed? So it's 1 slot for 1 person to eat.

With creating water, I'd just up the amount of water they need each day to make it a worse deal. Especially if they're in hot and dry environments.

Clerics and Druids won't likely be willing to give up all their 1st level slots everyday just to save some cash on food and water.

>>53608489
Yeah, I may not completely remove the sustenance from Goodberry. I just figured that it's a good enough spell when all you care about is the healing, and I feel like it would become absolutely essential if I make the party care about food. You might be right about Clerics and Druids not wanting to waste the spell slots, but I honestly wouldn't put it past the party. Especially since I'm planning on making places where they can just buy food and water pretty rare.

If they end up having a Ranger in the party (who I will, of course, allow to go Revised), it'll be somewhat trivialized anyways.

I wonder if Xanathar's is going to include any variant rules for having games where the DM actually gives a fuck about rations and encumbrance and all of that.

>>53608560
Really the obvious answer is to ask the party before it begins if they're cool with you removing Goodberry and Create/Destroy Water to make it more survival focused.

Aside from Life Cleric cheese those spells are rarely used in most situations.

The other idea I had, make them fail to work in some areas. Obviously it makes sense for Druids and Clerics to be able to make food and water, because they're channeling powerful magic of the world it's self. Just say they need an actual bush or tree to grow the berries on for Goodberry, and that you can only create water in areas with some water in the air.

Really though, most people aren't interested in survival. You should ask your group before anything because if they're some of the people who aren't into it then no one will have fun.

>>53606041
I'm curious which work you think you're copying. I'd try to look it up, but, well, irony.

>>53606100
Whether or not to apply death from massive damage is definitely a DM's prerogative.

>>53608458
Could run it like Fallout 1, if you're willing to run a stronghold or home base. Sure, you can magic up the water you need while on your quest, but that just supplies the party. Back at home, people are still rationing while you search for a new decanter of endless water.

>>53607134
I thought they breathed bubbles?

>Xanathar's Guide to Everything

I'll be banning this at my table. Every edition of the game has died because of splatbooks which obsoleted the base classes , created a series of overpowered combinations and caused players to constantly want to change from characters and switch class to the new betterer ones. I'll be fucked if I let my 5E games go the same way.

Anyone else doing the same?

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>>53608911
>Anyone else doing the same?
No, because I like my players having fun.

>>53608614
Come to think of it, it'd actually make sense if those spells stopped working very well because part of the idea behind the campaign is that the world's slowly falling apart. I could just say that magic to create food and water like that doesn't work because the planet's rotting away.

I did intend to ask the party, but players will be players. I've had them ask to have more stuff in a campaign and then get upset when it happens.

Thanks for the help, famalam.

>>53608929
GM's are meant to have fun too , or what's the point of putting in a hundred times the effort of the players ?

>>53608941
And watching your players have fun and having new mechanics that your various antagonists have to go up against to challenge players isn't fun?

>>53608911
>Every edition of the game has died because of splatbooks which obsoleted the base classes
3.5's top 3 were still Wizard, Cleric, and Druid by the end of its print run and the only classes that were obsoleted were shitters that needed to be replaced because they were shit at doing their job. None of 4E's core classes were obsoleted, ever.

So that leaves you with, what, UA's Cavalier for 1E? That one overpowered Cleric kit in 2E that made them into a full casting Fighter complete with free specialization? Skills & Powers? Come the fuck on.

>>53608958
You mean obsoleting the careful game balance with overpowered bullshit?

Take the UA Ranger. It's level 1 abilitys obsoletes the challenge entirely for any wilderness based adventure. That's not fun.

>>53608967
It's worth noting 4e actually got worse classes overtime. The fact early ones had a lot more feats and shit avalible that could do interesting shit, whereas newer ones were like the Vampire...

>>53608979
>>Take the UA Ranger. It's level 1 ability obsoletes the challenge entirely for any wilderness based adventure. That's not fun.
Good thing D&D isn't branded as a "Wilderness based RPG". It's generic, so it can easily be adapted for it but it can't support all game styles with core.

>>53608979
>careful game balance
Are we playing the same game? The one where PHB ranger and Four Elements monk exist?

>>53608979
>class is good at what they do
>bad

>>53608997
That was going to be my counterpoint but I figured pointing out that Wizards, Clerics, and Druids are still the three best classes in 3.5 would do just fine.

It's also hilarious that OH NOES SPLATBOOKS BREAKING MAH BALANCE! is this guy's problem when you had shapechanging game rapers capable of infinite wish looping straight by the fucking rules right there in 3.5 core.

>>53609024
I forgot how many power gamers there are on tg.

And how many GM's just fudge dice rolls, use endless quantum ogres and don't bother doing any prep . So I understand why nobody cares about running a decent game.

>>53609056
You're not going to run a decent game when you don't actually understand the game.

Is a campaign focused on political intrigue hard to DM?

What are some important things to know, especially in 5e?

>>53609082
Yes it's one of the hardest types of game to run in any system.

This is especially the case for D&D which has threadbare rules for social interactions and where each character is an obscene powerful hero that lends them to wanting to use brawn over brains.

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Guys. What weapon type is the closest to a folding chair? Greatclub, maybe?

>>53609154
Improvised weapon. 1d4 damage.

Wrestling is fake.

>>53608999
>4 elements monk
It still hurts

>>53609170
And so are orcs, elves, and dragonborn. What's your point?

>>53609182
>Class doesn't let me solo level 20 encounters.
>Must be awful.

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>>53609135
I wanted it to still be mostly fighting in missions and such stuff, but revealing more and more of the plot, that is formed by the decisions of the players working, sharing information and sympathizing with the faction they decide to trust.

Would it be too much if I don't use checks in social situations at all? It just feels so forced, when a player bringing good arguments and playing in-character while appealing to the nature of the NPC still rolls a 4 on persuasion and fails the check changing basically the whole plot

>>53609239
Where the fuck did I say I wanted that?

I missed the stream. Any of the games worth watching?

>>53604384
They changed the SA enabling so you can't get it if surrounded

>>53604711
Giving dragonborn colors was a mistake

>>53609241
In saying that 5E doesn't have particularly good rules for social interactions , I mean that it doesn't have any structures to handle complex social interactions. This goes beyond merely making a persuasion roll.

Games need good structures and rules to work because they provide a system of reward and feedback to the players so they can make informed choices. Basically if you're going to do this in 5E you'll need to add some house rules , the rules for faction friendlyness in the DM guide might be a good start

It's your game and you can run the roleplay freeform if you wish. Remember though as a rule for any skill check you only ever roll if you believe there's a chance of failure.

If a player lays out an argument that makes sense and you believe the NPC would 100 per cent agree with you don't need to roll. Anymore than you need to roll to see it a player can open an unlocked door.

>>53608997
>Good thing D&D isn't branded as a "Wilderness based RPG".
one of the "pillars" of it's design is exploration, so yeah it kinda is. It just sucks at it's own goals

>>53606880
Thief-Acrobat is cute! CUTE!

>>53604014
How would you Homebrew a level a vampiric touch?

How would you homebrewed a ranged vampiric touch?

I want to include such a thing for anti paladins in an upcoming campaign, but would prefer it not be completely broken.

Any suggestions on what to change about it to give it range 30?

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My DM let me have a pixie as my chain pact familiar at level 3, ask me anything

Its not as OP as you guys said, but polymorph did save the life of our barbarian by turning them into a giant scorpion for a heal+damage boost, and fly let our paladin attack a specter that otherwise he would have to just watch me blast to death

>>53604181
Under a Leopard 2A5 in Helmand. We only had ten d6s, and instead of character sheets used chalk to write important notes on the belly of the tank.

>>53606204
Armor and martial weapons.

>>53609346
Our DM did something when he was running more intrigue centric games. Checks, especially Insight, are made at the end of a conversation or scene unless it makes sense to do it right away. Left us feeling satisfied enough to walk away knowing we had a hinky feeling but not enough information to know why, exactly, they were being so dodgy.

>>53609406
Seems useful in a pinch, and you get to carry around a pocket-sized Emma Watson.

>>53609406
Nah it's pretty op. Your dm fucked up.

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>>53606880
Reminder that Tabaxi Monks still run slower than Olympic athletes.

>>53609383
Rangers just don't get lost. It doesn't mean they can't explore. They don't automatically know where something is because they are a ranger, unless they are given directions or something.
Not getting lost just means they can always find their way back out of the area they are in because they memorised the route, and they aren't going to wander the same part of the area in circles

>>53608911
I currently allow all the UA and then selectively add in Homebrew, because core only has so little flexibility it's terrible.

So no, I won't be banning it, I'll be using it right away. I look forward to having a better selection of reasonably balanced options.

>>53609346
>the rules for faction friendlyness in the DM guide

couldn't find these, are you referring to loyalty scores applied on factions or renown?

>>53609406
>not op
>has one of they stronger spells in the game on it that scales with the party
>also has utility like fly and dispel magic
ok

>>53609473
Yeah that's the one, you need some sort of structure as a basis and importantly you need to key in the players on some of the mechanics. Enough for them to understand what is happening.

I mean imagine trying to run a combat where you don't tell players how much damage they've taken, how much damage they've given, what the various combat conditions do, what the difference between their various weapons is mechanically etc. You just randomly describe things. It would be a confusing cluster fuck. This is how most DM's run social interactions.

>>53608560
Rangers actually don't find extra water and don't automatically find anything. They're just able to keep a lookout while they do it.

>>53608866
You're probably right.

>>53607352
There have been people that have had parachuting accidents where they survived falls from higher than that and sometimes stayed conscious, and they aren't even half-Orc

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>orcs on the road
>scouting party is fighting them
>I'm in the flank driving a battle carriage
>tell my team mates to disengage and get out of the road so I can run them down
>NO if I disengage I waste an action
>tell them If they don't get out of the road they will get run over too
>everyone clears the road but one guy
>stays and does 6 damage do one orc
>gets surrounded and put on the ground
>I have to stop the carriage and proceed on foot and help them
>she blames the team for scattering when she almost dies
>she extended the fight by a fuck ton of turns because she wanted to get her dps in and almost died in the process but didn't learn her leason
>mfw

>>53608979
>It's level 1 abilitys obsoletes the challenge entirely for any wilderness based adventure.
Does it really? Or does it just let you travel a little faster?

>Even when you are engaged in another activity while traveling (such as foraging, navigating, or tracking), you remain alert to danger
What does this mean? That your perception doesn't suffer while doing these things?

>>53607946
I liked One Grung Above, if only for the guys playing the green ones.
But then that's something that's only good as a one shot, I'd not watch a series of it.

>>53609559
Yes.
You get disadvantage on perception otherwise, I think. It's covered in the section on travel.

>>53609448
Dashing in combat =/= marathons, running, or sprinting.

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>starting a new very long campaign in ~2 months
>we will most probably hit level 3 before XGE

>>53609631
>not adapting your campaign when new major releases pop out
You're just asking for a bitter group of people.

What are some must have spells for Sorcerers?

We've started at lvl8 and I just picked what I thought would be good but I feel like I'm missing stuff. Leveled up once since then.

I'm a Wild Magic Dragonborn btw, good stats all around except Dex so Mage Armor is a must. I've picked Hightened Spell and Twinned for my Metas.

High Str and Con, Decent Wis and Int. 20 Cha.

>>53609549
Players are notoriously bad at doing anything in combat other than basic attacks. The thought of tactically retreating, using terrain (beyond the rogues stealth checks) seems an alien concept.

I've tried to resolve this by having the monsters use tactics , like having pack animals outflank or having militaristic units using a shieldwall , spear formation in hopes they'll figure they can do the same. But then the party tends to derp and die horribly.

>>53609406
>>53609494
If all of those spells are once a day then it is kinda OP. You're sort of giving your Warlock like ten extra spell slots.

As a DM I'd houserule it. Give the pixie 2-3 spell slots per long rest and make Polymorph drain a Warlock spell slot due to its high spell level.

>>53609657
They're only doing what the system supports best. Your flanking mumbo-jumbo was even removed from the mechanics cause nobody got time for that shit. What do you think D&D is, some video game WoW MMO minis boardgame?

>>53609657
>like having pack animals outflank or having militaristic units using a shieldwall , spear formation in hopes they'll figure they can do the same.
What would either of these things actually do mechanically?

>>53609182
Just make everything 1 or 2 ki cheaper for 4elemonks. Then they can always fall back on some of their disciplines.

>>53609549
Next time run her over.

>>53609620
>3E let you run 4x your speed (3x in heavy armor) for CON rounds with increasing DC checks each round thereafter
And this is STILL somewhere in "average human capability" land speed-wise, but much shittier stamina-wise.

>>53609684
It was last time, to be fair.

>>53609701
>flanking pack animals
Oops, the knockdown-spamming beasts are now in your backline chomping the shit out of your Wizard and other dainty cloth-wearing, low-HP casters, out of reach of your tanky Barbarian and Fighter.

>shield wall + spears
Cover against ranged and melee attacks? Proficiency to Dex saves against AoEs? Reactions when enemies enter threat range? These are all things you can do by default or are supported by feats that you could easily provide situationally rather than saying, "no, ONLY people who are MASTERS WITH SPEARS know how to set a pike to receive a charge".

>>53609789
>supported by feats that you could easily provide situationally rather than saying, "no, ONLY people who are MASTERS WITH SPEARS know how to set a pike to receive a charge
Then what's the point of the feats?

>>53609803
>Then what's the point of the feats?

Well exactly. They're an optional rule for a reason.

>>53609803
Crutches for the unimaginative.
What's the point of the Light spell when I can brew up a jar of glowing goop using the crushed asses of lightning bugs, phosphorescent rocks, and some luminescent moss?

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>>53609837
>Wizard wastes a valuable third level spell slot on casting Fireball
>I toss a bag or two of flour that I paid the local miller to run through a few times extra on his GOOD stone into the pack of enemies and follow it with a torch

>>53609906
New thread

>>53609917
nigga we are on page 6

>>53609934
>nigga
Exactly.

>>53609934
>330+ posts
Nothing good happens beyond here.

>>53609990
>he doesn't want to begin or continue a discussion that will be completely forgotten in an hour when the thread slides off the board
faggot

This thread shouldn't be dead yet edition .

>>53606907
The same as why there is psionics. None.

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>>53608165
>>53608085
Oh I definitely intend to hammer home the importance of flesh water and fragility of their weapons. That much is a given.

>You'd have to restrict classes.

I know, but what extent? I could ban wizards (and possibly clerics) but technically every class is now a Spelcast.

>Old Dark Sun started at level 3 by default, but I would be curious to try having my players roll 3 level 1 characters a piece, and then seeing how long they last through some opening gauntlet, like a gladiator tournament or a slaver attack.

That's a really good idea, I've allways liked the idea of the level one adventurer "funnel", this is a good set up for it.

>>53608458
>was planning on running a campaign that placed an importance on rations and exploration and all of that (not in Dark Sun, but in a similarly rough world), and ran into some problems. I kind of realized that spells like Create/Destroy Water and Goodberry completely trivialize the issue

You should consider actually setting it in dark sun then. The setting explicitly bars you from practically all magic spells.

You could technically cast create water but you gonna be draining life from someone else.

>>53609549
>didn't learn her leason
Of course not. You didn't let her die or even run her over.
>>53609751
Usain Bolt's average speed in the 100 meter dash was ~34.25 feet per second. If you let a mobile tabaxi run for x4 speed (instead of dash for x2) it covers 320 feet in a round, 53.3 feet per second. Bolt's top speed was 40.77 feet per second.
>>53609615
You actually don't get passive perception at all.
>>53609917
I'm on page 8. I'm still posting here. Fuck you.

>>53609425

How does that work?

anyone have the pdfs for this? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/enworld/a-touch-of-class-7-new-classes-for-5th-edition/description

>>53610668
Nah, just arcane magic.

Divine magic's fine in Dark Sun, there's just no gods so you get it from the elemental planes.

https://media.wizards.com/2017/dnd/downloads/UA-RevisedSubclasses.pdf

Has anyone had a chance to read these? What do you guys think?