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How do you prefer your vampires? Why?

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How do you prefer your vampires? Why?
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petite and overwhelmingly smug
because that's my fetish
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>>53581575
generally still people, human enough to be able to interact with humans without being immediately spotted as not.

At their core still monstrous and human predators, play up the conflict between their still present human self and their new dark appetite and need to injure and kill.
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>>53581575

Unrepented monsters. To become a vampire should be purposeful thing that you go into willingly knowing everything that it entails and you do it regardless or perhaps because of it. No woe is me bullshit, you are happy to be an apex predator among humans and you revel in your monstrosity and the more time passes the more joyus you are about it as your physical form reflects your monsterous spirit to the point where the oldest vampires don't even look human but act as the decedent nobles they hold themselves to be so imagine several inhuman monsters (ludwig from Bloodborne) all sitting around a table pleasently chatting with each other as they tear into the humans strapped to a table in front of them while they are still alive.
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>>53581575
Vampires are supposed to have been human at some point. They must still have some lingering attachments to their previous life, and not simply be blood sucking monstrosities.
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>>53581659
I like the cut of your jib, anon.
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>>53581575
I like a middle point between the two in OP's pic. To the outside observer, they look fine and respectable, even admirable if you ignore the gruesome diet. However, when you see what one is REALLY like under the mask, it's a whole other more frightening story. It's like demons wearing people suits, trying to pretend that nothing has changed.
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>>53581691
Why couldn't the beast within replace the man/woman at some point, or even instantly as the curse consumes the person and leaves the monster?
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>>53581575
Social predators. They're hunters who survive by killing humans and their hunting method is not based on their physical ability, it's based on their ability to infiltrate and manipulate. A vampire will not stalk you until your vulnerable, you'll trust them or at least respect them, so when they ask you to meet them somewhere private you'll agree.
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choose your flavor
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>>53581720
That could happen, of course. But your run of the mill vampire must still have some qualms about certain actions or retain enough sense to not go take a bath in peasant entrails for the sake of self preservation.

It is a monstrous person. A monster nonetheless, but he or she can still be reasoned with. Or at the very least not act like a ravenous beast.
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>>53581720
because if i wanted a murder monster i can just use a bear or something.

the point of vampires is the human/monster internal conflict.
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>>53581575
Sympathetic, but still a threat regardless.
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>>53581575
Classy, polite, hospitable, honor-bound, irredeemably evil. Because every setting that tries to do something "unique" with them is fixing what ain't broke.
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>>53581753
Are there vampires like dio elsewhere? You know the freezing powers and the boiling blood shot from his eyes
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>>53581753
Kain, final answer
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>>53581575
>Left
>Closest to kain
>Right
>Shitty low born blood mixed with low born human blood creates this
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I prefer them to be mostly human but unaging, unholy and unable to access the afterlife.
Probably most of them would be cynics who grow to slowly hate humanity due to them growing wise over centuries and seeing the evil humanity commits upon each other.
Also they can still go out in the sunlight, they're simply more powerful in the cloak of night so most vampires are night.
They require a weekly ounce of blood to live but this doesn't have to be from humans, it can be from any creature although vampires grow attached to the taste of certain creatures the same way some humans prefer ham, some humans prefer chicken and some humans prefer beef.
How do they turn?
Either they are sorcerers/witches who used a spell to turn them into a vampire or they were a friends with one who offered to perform the spell on them.
Why do I prefer it this way?
Realism, inherently good or evil creatures are uninteresting and foregoing afterlife just for an extended human life seems like a pretty decent price to pay assuming the setting has an afterlife also dying to sunlight is way too huge of a weakness.
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>>53581788
The point of vampires is to describe abusive people in larger-than-life terms. They're not conflicted or secretly good; they're beasts in human skin, devils in plain sight. They trick you into thinking there's good in them and that you're the one who can bring it out (a very tempting and flattering thing to believe about yourself, as it makes you special.)
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>>53581788
>All murder monsters are the same

A bestial vampire can hardly be compared to a bear, not only because of its powers, but because it has been human and retains a sort of intellect due to it.
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>>53581575
Human-looking, very inhuman inside. Perfect manners, only to lure you. Will completely drop the masquerade once it's feeding time, though.
Not romantic, or at least, not the kind of romance you get out from. Same as >>53581911 said.
I also like them will all the silly magical flaws.
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>>53581691
That's what they want you to believe,
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The old folk tales kind - terrifying, monstrous undead leech, bloated with blood. Vaguely humanoid, with piercing, mesmerizing gaze. Burrows down to its coffin come dawn, decimates the area of anything warm-blooded by night
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>>53581575
Humanoid, aristocratic and haughty. Also highly manipulative and predatory. These are monsters that are well designed to screw with people psychologically. I don't like vampires as good guys and I'm not entirely fond of just making them hideous scary monsters. Appearing youthful and physically attractive is entirely optional. Monstrous true form is also optional. If I were to choose some examples, Castlevania's Dracula is a good one, as is the Interview with the Vampire (movie) version of Lestat de Lioncourt.

I don't like vampires as heroes or good guys because it often goes into territory I find really lame. There have been a few good vampire characters I've enjoyed, but even then I feel like vampires are better used as devious monsters than sympathetic heroes.

I generally dislike purely monstrous magic zombie vampires because I feel like there are plenty of other monsters that are better suited for that. The idea of going back to that feels shallow and contrarian to me. A little rebellion against the popular, different for the sake of being different. It's total hipster shit a lot of the time.
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>>53581575
>left: temporary form/original form, difficult to maintain, used for interaction and subterfuge
>right: current natural form, used for combat and casual activity that does not require subtlety or espionage

The more powerful the vampire, the more humanity they give up to reach that power. Over time it becomes increasingly difficult for them to maintain the humanoid shape, as well as convincingly utilize it without it seeming fake or overly rehearsed. At the point where they become totally monstrous in form, many will have opted to delegate more mundane dealings to their servants and lesser kin, and would likely be seen as outright devils instead of undead.

It is not that they become truly bestial in mind, but that they reach a point where they become so incredibly contemptuous and detached, that they are barely able to interact with lesser creatures, even their own kin, without it seeming extremely patronizing. To them it is like allowing an ant at a picnic, to talk up at a human who is crushing the little insects that dare to show themselves.

Empathy, morals, humanity, mere mortal obstacles that shackled them from attaining true greatness.
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The Master in Strain was great, until they decided to reveal his face.

So if I had to choose, I'd choose the enigmatic, almost wraith-like vampires that consider humans nothing but cattle for their kind.
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>>53581753
>dreadlords but no Kain

I mean i guess you could argue they're vampire-inspired...
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I love the Vampires that are aristocratic and depraved but still pass as 'normal' humans, they've got magic and all the supernatural strength and abilities from their immortality. I just love the cheesy eastern european nobleman vampire Count more than anything else.

I don't mind the monstrous vampires but I like them more as WHFB Vargheists, Vampires that give in to their bloodlust.
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I very much liked (and was very much spooked by when I first read the book) by Stoker's Dracula.
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>>53581962
maybe it's just me. but vampires are more interesting when theyre not just murder monsters that kill for shits and giggles.

They're still people,but whos nature requires they at least occasionally do terrible things. how they cope with that can drive a lot of story.
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>>53581575
Anything but Twilight-esque sparklepires, ex nuMagic's Sorin Markov and his get.
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Both of the OP image. I want the vain, smug noble who knows he's better than you and is classy. However his narcissism gives him a complex that when faced with an equal, he will go full horror mode and rip and tear.
Witcher 3 did this pretty well.
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A feral to high society life cycle, they're parasites and they do have multiple stages.

Starting off the Vampire Coven will host a massive blood feast, draining and feeding on as many chattel they can get their hands on. From there they dump the currently unconscious thralls outside in a large prepared ritual pit normally filled with blood and far away from polite society. The thralls will wake and bind themselves into smaller packs with the strongest of them commonly turning on the slower to wake ones and trying to absorb whatever nutrients they can.

They'll end up staying in the wastes for a few decades on average slowly building their intelligence (based on the intelligence of the animals they're draining, a pack that finds themselves near human settlements might develop faster).

Once they develop close to human level intelligence they will be lured back to their coven of birth due to latent psychic influences. This is the most dangerous stage of their life cycle as they are not able to quite blend in with society at this stage and can be purged by a vigilant town guard or paladin order in relative safety.

Once they have finished their development they are taken into their coven and move up the hierarchy from there.
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>>53582152
>dreadlords but no San'layn, the only actual vampires in Warcraft
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>>53582251
Sorin's vampires aren't even close to sparklepires. They're basically aristocratic crazies who go into blood frenzies when they feed, but pretend to be more civilized than everyone else because their great great grandwhatevers decided to get a demon to fix their starvation problem. All while Sorin keeps stacking the deck vaguely in their favor because he's a douche.

Not to mention the whole "oh shit, the falkenrath have literally gone blood crazy and are now just flesh eating murder bandits" thing that happened in Shadows Over Innistrad/Eldritch Moon
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>>53581753
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>>53582351
Yeah, no, that's sunlight-sparkling glampires in a nutshell. The stupidity of the Eldrazi business in no way mitigates the smugly superior unholier-than-thou metrosexual fujo pandering bullshit of regular Innistrad. Shit set, shit plane, shit tribe to make the evergreen "sapient black" race... but then it is nuMagic, so shit is par for the course.
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>>53581575
monsters masquerading as humans

legacy of kain vampires, best vampires
they start of human looking, then devolve.
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>>53582399
...they aren't even monoblack dude. They're B/R. I'll agree they're shitters though, but they're not glampires. More like slamming bohemian nobility into cannibalism at full speed and keeping all of the attitude.
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Got room for time paradox vamps?
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>>53582461

RAZIEL, WHAT CRUEL MACHINATIONS OF FATE KEEP YOU AWAKE AT THIS UNGODLY HOUR?
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>>53581575

Char-grilled and well ventilated, with a side of garlic.
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Utter monsters who know they are monsters and revel in what they do.
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>>53582473
Oh Raziel
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>>53582446
>They're B/R
Sure, and Gaea's Skyfolk means elves show up in blue, but Magic vampires are core black. With the exception of aetherborn (which actually had aetherborn Vampires), it seems like when they want a sapient black race these days it's typically the vampires that pick up the phone. Dunno why. I guess it has something to do with the mandate to make everything more human centric. Vampires are just pointy teeth humans, like elves are pointy ear humans, so I guess that works for their marketing strategy.
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>>53581575
Dead.
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>>53581575
As a character, I feel that Hannibal Lecter makes for a better vampire than the vast majority of what you'll find mentioned here. Take that as you will.
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>>53582528
Yeah, it's pretty dumb honestly. I think I'd be more fine with it if they were less humanlike and more like pic related in design. I'm fine with them being human-acting, but at least make them more unsettling than just "pale weird humans"
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>>53582586
I prefer the Mads take on the character.
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>>53582586
>>53582635
It's a difficult comparison to make because the movie version was a known monster and used that to his advantage, the tv version has trying to appear as little like the monster as possible (even after capture). They feel more like two different attitudes the same character might express in different situations as opposed to two different character.
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>>53582699
TV version would make a nicer vampire for it I think.
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>>53581575
Looking like left but psychologically right.
They look human and talk all seductive like but if you actually try delving you find out it's all lie. The creature is an animal, it only cares about eating and reproducing. Humanity, emotion and philosophy are just clever tricks to get what it wants. It holds no beliefs and feels nothing for us.
It's a spiritual uncanny valley.

Personally I think that is something that is fundamentally terrifying. It's a fear of alienation, a fear of forming relationships, a fear of ourselves and our own motivations.

The cleverest of them would appear like >>53582586 but any class would be pure windowdressing. The creature doesn't care for fineries it only knows humans respond well to that behaviour.
The younger and more inexperienced are like pic related: creepy in their failure to imitate genuine humanity but dangerous in their dauntless aggression.
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>>53582621
I grew up with Sengir Vampire and later Repentant Vampire, both of them visibly monstrous, so I have a real hard time accepting the modern pretty boy approach. Seems dumb to complain about the loss of grittiness in a card game but the "MtG feel" that got me into the series doesn't seem to be there at all anymore. Everything is so safe and sanitized. The characters can't even be in conflict anymore after the Garruk/Liliana incident, any hope of them ever growing a second dimension to their characters is gone.
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>>53582839
I would argue some of that, but seeing as I grew up with the same cards and actually remember taking a break from magic when Lorwyn came out because I was an idiot and thought that it was too lighthearted and childish (and in doing so, missing shadowmoor) I get exactly what you're talking about. A lot of early MtG was very rough and visceral in how it depicted things, and I miss a lot of it. We get glimpses every once in a while, but it's not quite the same.

At least I still have the old MtG books. Those things are pulply, terrible gold.
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>>53582445
Well that only goes for the third/fourth generation of vampires, the ones originating from Kain.
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>>53582913
Even the tone of the cards just isn't the same I mean compare this art to the reprint they did
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Incredibly powerful to the point where it's nearly suicidal for even the most trained hunters to go after but not so monstrous that they're just mindless beasts that cannot speak or think


www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Td_aETp4I
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>>53583094
They've lost a lot of good artists over the years. I mean hell, what happened to Ron Spencer? We've still got Rebecca Guay and Pete Venters on staff, but damn, a lot of these old artists were half the reason I started playing.
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>>53582752
What movie?
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>>53583248
Nightcrawler. Gyllenhall plays a sociopath who decides to be an ambulance chasing photojournalist in the heaviest phase of "it bleeds, it leads"
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I like my vampires human on the outside, monsters on the inside. I like them playing at humanity the same way an anglerfish plays at being a light. Just long enough to eat you.
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>>53581677
You'd like pre-End Times Vampire Counts.
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>>53581575
I like a combination of both. Aloof yet elegant and refined people who are the living definition of "aristocracy", but can at a moment's notice turn into unholy beasts that will jump at you and rip you to shreds, then feast on your corpse. Moment after which, they'll just stand up, dust themselves off and go for some clean and possibly not shredded clothes. Also they have no interest in sex whatsoever, at least compared to just killing whoever they baited into their room alone. Pretty much nothing good ever comes out of vampires and romance.

As an additional point, I really liked the idea in The Witcher: Wine and Blood that some vampires who live for extremely long times eventually just stop giving a fuck and go live in a cave, no visits allowed.
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>>53581596
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>>53581575
OWoD.
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>>53581575

Mighty generals.
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>>53584053
Danzig?
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>>53581753
Kain, easily
>>53582152
Pretty sure he's the third guy in the first row. That's how he looked in Blood Omen.
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>>53582150
he looks like a fucking muppet, what the hell
I caught the first few episodes but dropped it because I got busy with other stuff and I've been wondering how it was doing. I'm glad I dropped it in retrospect.
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>>53584430
shart
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>>53584127

Better than when people think it's that other dubstep faggot.
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>>53581575
I don't care so long as they are willing to fuck me.
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Like a Lich, but not concerned with magical advancement and more with their own personal gain. Basically an undead dragon, always looking for greater wealth, power, and luxuries.
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>>53584807
Now that's the kind of thinking I like
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>>53584887
Does this make us the Darkside?
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>>53581659
/thread
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>>53582752
>spiritual uncanny valley.
I like how that phrase sounds.
What a charming way to express this idea.
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>>53581753
I don't see Mannlet or Edward in there, so I pick all of them.
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Not my favorite but an underplayed concept that I do enjoy, vamps as more insectoid/mosquito.
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>>53585619
How I prefer em is capable maintaining their mental faculties with practice and will and keeping their blood lust in check to the point where they could feed non-lethally. But many of them seek out the curse, which can be transferred either through arcane shit or by other vampires, as a power play that feeds into and off of their own natural evil and corruption. I like them similar to dragons but capable of more secrecy as opposed to raw power and working on shorter terms than drags.
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>>53585619
Google up the vampire from the Phillipines, known as the Aswang. Or Tik-Tik.
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I love vampires so much, and they're one of my favorite monster archetypes, just because there are SO MANY incredibly different and varied ways to represent them but each and every one is valid, AND they can exist simultaneously in the same setting. Some stories are explicitly about different types of vampires feuding or warring, even.

Any of ya'll seen What We Do in the Shadows?
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>>53585818
Haven't seen whatever you're referencing, but I feel much the same about vamps. I wish people made more of an effort to mix it up with other mythical creatures, like werewolves, for example. They're almost as popular as vampires, but they feel like a copy/paste wherever they end up.
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>>53581575
Left - Transform - Right
Terrifying monstrosities that hide behind the veneer of humanity
What emotions they have are muted, pale imitations of true feeling serving only to allow themselves to better deceive their prey
The only thing they truly feel is hunger
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>>53581575
Varied, due to different bloodlines that manifest in different ways.
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>>53581753
I'll try bottom left.
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>>53585876
Forgotten Realms is actually pretty nice, because it has elvish werewolves, that are lawful good. They aren't murder monsters, and can only transfer the "curse" to another if the entire process is completely consensual.
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>>53581575
I once designed a system where every type of undead was motivated by a certain feeling or emotion

skeletons were obedience
ghouls were hunger
ghosts were "unfinished business"
liches were curiosity
and vampires were covetousness

Vampires are locked in an eternal struggle to take the things they wanted in life. A vampire who was a spurned lover in life might collect beautiful women as his vampire spawn. The younger brother to a duke might attempt to kill his brother's heirs, and rule the throne. Whatever their pursuit is, it always revolves around taking something from someone else, and it never brings them any real satisfaction.
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>>53585876

The thing about werewolves is that they're really in a much tighter box than vampires are. Werewolves have three options: the tortured victim (the classic Larry Talbot "lock me up!" type), the bestial monster that embraces their animalistic bloodlust, and the master who keeps control over their beast form and retains some semblance of goodness. Any werewolf you make is going to be one of these three things as a rule. I can't think of any way around it.

Aesthetically, though, my favorite werewolf that I think I've ever seen is actually the werewolf from the Harry Potter movies. I love how gangly it looks, it really hits that uncanny valley of not-human not-wolf almost perfectly. Too many wolfmen just look like people in dog masks, and that's a cool look too, but I love the ones that find a creepier medium. The big fuzzy "wolfman" (Larry Talbot again) is my second-favorite for its simplicity, though.

Also: I highly recommend What We Do in the Shadows if you like vampires. It's a comedy from Flight of the Conchords, if you liked This Is Spinal Tap and like vampires you'll love this.
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>>53581596
Obligatory Yupiel post.
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>>53582752
It's like one of those flower-mimicking mantids
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I like my vampires both unrepentant and tragic. Perhaps some vampires brood in their castles and spires and regret whatever action or event caused them to become bloodthirsty monsters that sapped away their humanity. Others on the other hand embrace their new predatory lifestyle, and fashion themselves mighty kingdoms with undead vassals and servants. I like them to be a mixture of monstrous and beautiful, with lingering bits of the person they were before hidden beneath mutated bat-like features. They might act noble and with grace, but underneath it all is a carnal desire to feed on whoever it is they're attempting to sway with their false etiquette. Some might still believe in being noblemen, but none can deny that they need constantly feed on the blood of others.

So, the Vampire Counts. I don't like vampires that are so effeminate and pretty that they could be taken for flawless humans. But at the same time I don't like my (main) vampires to be too monstrous. They still need to have a lordly authority about them. It's a balance. I like the curse to show, and for some to embrace it and others to hate it. But no matter which they do they all have to hunt and feed.
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>>53582752
I like Dresden Files' mix of things, where vampires are just a supercategory including "supernatural predator that eats humans and used to be human". There's the full gamut - Black nosferatu walking corpses from Slavic countries, White aristocratic incubi/succubi from Western Europe, Red camazotz that pretend to be aristocrats from Latin America, even Jade chi-eaters from Southeast Asia. I'm bettin they're Jiang-shi. Also betting that the human eating supernaturally predatory ghouls are actually the oldest vamp Court with an extremely dead language that no longer holds any political clout and is only good for muscle. The superghouls are just really old and strong.
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Edgy, but in an over-the-top, hilarious kinda way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zx1ZtxUbGE
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One setting ive always liked for vampires is the dresden files. The different courts were basically every way vampires have been portrayed in modern media. You have the white court psy vampires that feed off emotions and leave their victims gibbering idiots. the red court are alluring until they drop the facade and transform into savage monsters. then theres the black court that are the classic count dracula types, afraid of holy symbols, garlic, stakes, and cant cross running water.
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Dracula and Alucard from Castlevania Lords of Shadow 1 and 2 are basically my favorite kind of vampire.

They are beautiful, but not in a sparkly emo way. And they are also terrifying. Plus, they hit that sweet spot in having inhuman features, but not to the point where it's over the top ridiculous. Goofy and cheesy, rather than scary.
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>>53581575
A monster that knows it fucked up but doesn't exactly find ways to make it right. Unless coerced, or instincts demand it

>>53581753
Can't go wrong with KAIN

>>53587183
Man, that DLC was so easy. Wish he could use those shields you could pick up
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>>53582950
>>53587722
Wasn't it said that devolution happens because of corruption of the soul? Kain was fucked because of the Pillars..so what's with Vorador? Angst cause he got turned?
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>>53587382
Alucard was damn sexy in that DLC. That comment, "Nice Armor." made me fangasm.
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>>53581753
Remilia is best Vamp.
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>>53588041
Gotta be accent man, just adds to the appeal.
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Tzimisce for unlife. They are the very essence of vampiric nature.
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>>53581575
Like Warhammer fantasy, plus vampire Hunter D with Dhampires.

Fight me.
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>>53581575
For the Peak of normal vampires - this guy
For the origin of Vampirism, i want someone like Alucard, basically an Eldritch monster
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>>53581753
Vampire bat master race.
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>>53581575
Suave, debonair, crafty, not necessarily evil but like to mix up current events for sport.
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>>53581575
Aristocratic and isolated from society the essentially hire their own mini army's to protect their bloodline and to capture humans.
The older the are the more twisted and sickening their appearance becomes and their eating habits too as the find more horrific methods of torturing their prey.
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>>53582337
The San'layn got almost no spotlight in WoW and it's criminal. Then again their existence was too explicitly tied in with Arthas to the point where you'd need a major asspull to explain how more of them are out and about now that Arthas is dead.
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>>53581575
I LOVE how fucking badass they used to be depicted in Warhammer Fantasy
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>>53581575
Left, but I grew up with Castlevania.
Now I want the most powerful vampires to appear as noble and stylish as possible while still being capable of transforming to their true terrifying form. Pic related is also a vampire that I appreciate.
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>>53582337
Dreadlords were the first kids on the block, m8.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkgPn0dSZaY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azAELMY0_vU
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>>53581575
Clever seductive monsters that are just human enough to hate.
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>>53581575
>How do you prefer your vampires?
As adorable ancient lolis. And I make no apology for it.

They're usually just a lot more fun than the brooding children of the night.

Also, does anyone have the strip showing the progression of alchemists from serious young men to thousand-year old loli? I thought I had it but I can't find it anywhere.
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Glittery in sunlight.
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>>53581753
All of them.
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>>53595744
I liked the old Vampire counts. Back when I though I wanted to start playing WHF I bought their armybook.
I really like that there are different kinds of vampires. My favourites of those are Blood Dragons and Necrarch.

I also like the Tzimisce.

And of course DIO.

But usually, having only one kind of vampire is not my jam.
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>>53581575
I like the idea of vampires as humanities predator, beings separate from humans that for one reason or another exist largely to try and fuck them up
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>>53582245
I kind of agree. I like it when vampires are intelligent, but utterly monstrous and sociopathic beasts. As in, they retain the worst bits of humanity:our cunning, our sadism, and our calculating manipulative mind. Any vampire that has any reason to NOT be destroyed by any sane human is just muddying the waters IMO
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>>53581575
Vampires are basically an antibody some sort of mystcal force made to remove humans, and all of their traits, from how they feed to their ability to blend into society, are a result of being designed to do this job as effectively as possible.
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>>53596113
Oh, I forgot the Vampires from the Necroscope book series. I've only read first two though
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>>53581575
I like everything like Warhammer does it.

So in your case/image. I choose both types of vampires.

Unless we are playing World of Darkness, in that case, Gangrel type.
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Humans with longer lifespans that are easily killed with conventional weaponry but can regenerate themselves with blood. No particular special abilities beyond their lifespan, enhanced senses, and enhanced regeneration.
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>>53581596
Very well...
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I like my vampires to be a perversion of life. Everything they do has a clear root in human action, but their own un-natural selves twists it into something horrific. As for personality, keep them as they were as humans, but with a literal bloodlust. It makes the evil ones more horrifying and the not-so evil ones more tragic.
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>>53581753
Most of those are ok.

I like vampires that are violent, brutal varghulf-tier beasts. It's not an affliction that you can control, it's a disease that turns you feral because the desire for blood and feeding is so strong you cease being anything remotely human and go full beast-mode. As it just so happens, that's also how I like werewolves.

Vampires like Kain I generally like because they're no-pomp brutal fuckers anyway, but they're not my favourite.

Vampires that act like fuccboi rockstars who just go around seducing women, fugging and wearing nice clothes can fuck right off, Anne Rice is the worst thing to happen to horror creatures as a whole. I know you can try and excuse it by saying "Well they're predators so they adapt to their environment". No. Fuck off. Reeee
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>>53596113
Yeah. I like various types of vampires, or vampires that can take multiple forms.
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>>53581753
Vlad, both of them
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>>53581753
In hindsight I shouldn't have used red for the text.

I don't see a problem with any of them. They all have their place in the stories I want to create, read, or take part in. As long as they are not 95% sanitized they're cool in my book.
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>>53597738
Nathrezim were clearly vampires in Warcraft 3. You can even see Tichondrius charming and feeding off villagers in the first mission.
This was back when Warcraft hadn't been retconned to hell and back then set on fire.
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>>53582445
>devolve
you put an extra "de" there anon
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>>53597828
I don't remember much about them so I just went off their appearance. But what you said could also describe a succubus, so there's that.
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>>53596871
Is it bad that I find 1000 years old still attractive?
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>>53581575
Like this
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>>53597828
my original wc3 manual describes them as demons, the vampire stuff is just flavor so they better fit into the undead army (they were originally going to have a burning legion army but it was scrapped)

it's a pretty arbitrary distinction though since undead and demons are consider the same when it comes to the mechanics
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>>53597983
batfucker
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Owod all the way.
Owod Nagaraja is propably my favorite version of the monstrous vampire, while Salubri or Cappadocian from the civilized end of the spectrum. Count Orlok from non wod stuff.
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>>53581575
I like both, left should be hundreds of years old. Right should be thousands.
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>>53582752
>spiritual uncanny valley
this

pic vaguely related
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>>53582480
The real interesting part about Alucard is how in the end, he cries. Twice. Once for seeing Alexander abandon his humanity - and therefore being unable to kill Alucard (because only a human can slay him). The other time when he remembers the last time he saw the sun as a human, before he became a vampire.

He can't cry. He shouldn't cry. Monsters can't cry. Only humans can cry.

That was better than any mopey emo vampire shit. Because it leaves you with the question - was he a monster or just a supernatural human who dealt with his guilt through thinking he's a monster?
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>>53582152
>doesn't recognize young Kain
Son, why can't you even Blood Omen?
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>>53587771
Angst because the race and civilization he helped build were utterly destroyed and the world may be doomed. He's never minded being a vampire at all -- quite the opposite, because he's the guy that told Kain that vampires are practically gods.
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>Vampire
>Instead of aristocratic, lowly and peasant. Maybe a miller or weaver, something that'd require them to stay inside all day.
>Negatives like sunlight and garlic affect them, but not to deadly effects
>Humbling living their life in their little village
>The locals know about them, respect them, and the Vampire sometimes babysits or tells tall tales at festivals for his neighbors
Y/N?
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>>53601481
Who do they prey on then? People in other villages?
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>>53601821
I'd like to think they terrorize other villages but keep theirs untouched. Some sort of feud long ago resolved that they still have resentment over. Still very twisted and malevolent, but tries to keep it a secret from their home.
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>>53581753
Almost all to some extent
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>>53581575
Have to go for Gothic horror style vampires myself, dark gloomy castles, heavy mists, corrupted aristocracy and the occult.
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>>53600002
I don't remember that, gonna have to rewatched it. Nice brief analysis anon.
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>>53581835
Not that I'm aware of. Far as I know, that's a JoJo only thing.
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>>53581835
Maybe in Touhou.
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>>53603890
Nah, they just do their danmaku shit
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>>53601768
This. Vampires as the result of magitech/superscience beyond present capabilities. Something people transform themselves into willingly because they consider having a longer life more important than the many lives they'll cut short in acquiring and maintaining it.
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>>53581575
Young vampires are simple, they're basically just serial killers or mass murderers depending on how they react to turning
As they get older they get "better"
A young vampire, while stronger than average can still get put down by large enough mob or by a vampire hunter, older vampires are much more difficult to deal with, because unless you get lucky they're going to kill you before you know they exist.
The only universal trait for vampires, besides the standard weaknesses and hungers, is paranoia, the paranoia leads to isolation and decades or centuries of near complete solitude tends to drive them mad.
Age doesn't make the vampire smarter, it's just that stupid vampires don't live long enough to get old, maybe they avoid the notice of townspeople or hunters, but if they begin attracting enough attention that they could end up drawing hunters an older vampire will kill them before they end up causing more problems.
Besides the increasing paranoia induced insanity, older vampires become increasingly monstrous, and while their thirst grows they become more efficient, they need to drink more at any one time but the blood will last them longer, a newly turned vampire might leave it's first victim alive but need to feed again the next night, after a century they might need to depopulate a town, but they could be sated for years.
The primary cause of true death for a newly turned vampire is stupidity, not giving themselves time to escape the sun or pissing off something tougher than they can handle, for a young vampire the leading cause of death is infighting, having drawn the ire of an elder, for an elder the leading cause of death is starvation, they let their paranoia delay them too long and they are left too week to feed
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>>53581575

With a stake driven through their hearts.
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>>53585818
>Any of ya'll seen What We Do in the Shadows?
Yes
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>>53585818
>>53607249
I've also seen it, it's a pretty great movie.


Anyway, I tend to prefer my vampires as creepy children, Nobles and Better Than You, or like the ones from Blindsight.

DESU I just have a massive fetish for the ones from Blindsight. Especially that bitch in echopraxia. I'd totally let her eat me.
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>>53587183
>>53588190
I wonder what color his nips are. I've never seen them in game, or did I miss it?
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>>53586294
Smug lolis are my kryptonite
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>>53597998
"Be of Me."
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>>53608299
I hate lolis, almost as much as I hate MLP.
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>>53581575
"There are many immortal monsters who roam this Earth. When I look at them, I wonder, were they created out of a desire for immortality? Many of them desire war. I've seen them roaming the bloodiest battlefields, but in their battle cries, I hear a craving. I think they cry out, for death. Nosferatu, the No-Life King. His castle, his kingdom, its people, his loved ones, even his very identity; everything was lost. All that remains is a pale shadow, wandering from battle to battle. I have come to believe that those frightening immortals are, in fact, frail, sobbing children."
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>>53601481
Sound shit, sunlight should always be lethal and vampires should take no interest in interacting on a friendly level with humans
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>>53581596
Hear, hear!
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>>53610013
Sunlight has never been lethal to vampires. it only weakens them.
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>>53581575
Aesthetically: very cleanly dressed; enjoys ornate designs; pinnacles of excess (be it money, hookers or a giant bitching castle); extremely powerful; still resembling humans to a great degree

What I like them to represent: the monstrous beast that sleeps within the heart of all mankind with their excessive greed, lust, power and selfish ways.
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>>53610183

Factually inaccurate.
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>>53581596
Never understood how Vampire Noble/Knight-houses ever became "boring", They would probably even be pretty good Rulers/Conquerors for the common folk.
The only thing they have to worry about are internal power struggles.

No need for conscription for Wars when you have Undead Soldiers lead by Vampire Knights.
Less taxes as the Rulers have a much longer Reign to manifest their worth in terms of Buildings/Monuments.

I could very easily see a peasantry (under the right religious circumstances) welcome their Vampiric Rulers, and since vampires cannot properly create offspring, maybe being turned is something worth aspiring for in Life. A Bloodkiss being a medal of Chivalry instead of being marked for death.
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>>53610455
I also replied to the wrong guy.
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>>53610183
>but that's wrong
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>>53610328
>>53610491
You're both morons. It's only ever weakened them. Stop watching shit like buffy. i bet you think stakes are lethal on their own too.
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>>53610513
you know vampires aren't real and everything surrounding them is make believe right
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>>53610455
I mean the whole "prospect being eaten" might be some what, of a turn off to your average peasant.

And at the end of the day, noble lord fuckwit is at least human too, and nothing motivates humanity like xenophobia
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>>53610513
Sure, that's why it's tradition to scatter flax seed round the graves of suspected vampires.
noting to do with them having to stop and count the seeds, giving the sun time to rise and kill them.
>lrn 2 foke lore
bet you don't even think burring them with a rock in their mouth works either.

also this
>>53610524
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>>53582541
/thread
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>>53610013
iirc, Dracula was only weakened by Sunlight. To the point where he was actually killable.
Might be wrong though. Haven't read the book in a long ago. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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>>53584908
Worst video game ever made. Here's a (you) for your effort.
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>>53610551

But they would only eat people on special occasions, like christmas or something, people would be safe from Famine and War (further increasing their reproduction) just by donating 300-500ml blood every 4 weeks in case a Vampire needs about 2 Litre of blood per day, which is about ~140 ppl to sustain 1 Vampire. about 200 if you're generous to the populous. Meaning you'd need a meagre 20000 Citizens to keep a 100Head Vampire Aristocracy running well and swell and thats if you only consider them only being able to feast on ~Human~ blood. Which is probably a much smaller number than the Ratio of Peasants for each Aristocrat in the 1400s
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>>53610455
I wonder who could be behind this post.
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>>53608559
You're a coolguy.
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>>53610328
Factually accurate*** fixed that for you, pham.
Also, calling anything fantasy-related factually accurate or not makes you look fucking stupid, dude. There is no exact science on Vampires. Lol'd
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>>53581575
Every way, because I like variety
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>>53597738
>Implying vampires aren't a type of demonic parasite
You have to understand these things if you are to properly smite them
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>>53610183

That's wrong though.
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>>53610929

That's a shitload of blood to be giving on a daily basis, seems like it'd be simpler to just kill all vampires or have just one vampire.
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>>53611456
17.86ml a day does not seem that much to me.
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For me, the feeding isn't what makes them Inhuman(er), it's what lets them maintain their humanity. Vampirism is through and through a curse that slowly turns it's victim into inhuman monsters of immense might with horrid magics that even experienced wizards need to take years to master. This of course, comes at the loss of such things as empathy, happiness, or any other positive emotion.
Basically, old vampires are either powerful because they have had enough time to build up large reserves of wealth and political power, or are insane monstrosities that are hunted down with extreme prejudice.
As far as weakness and natural abilities go, well fed vampires are really no different than someone in their mid-twenties in peak condition, even if their actual appearance doesn't show it. Sunlight won't kill them, it just paralyzes them, which just makes them very easy to kill by anyone out to do it, but is survivable if left alone. Starved ones are paralyzed and catch on fire.
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>>53581575
>How do you
With a stake in their chest.
>Why
The following question is left as an exercise to the reader.
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>>53611907
>an exercise
But I just fapped..
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>>53586479
I like how whenever the Black Court show up, people just nope the fuck out.
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>>53581753
let's add a few more
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>>53610929
>just by donating 300-500ml blood every 4 weeks
So we're no longer talking about a medieval setting then?
I mean, the only way regularly cutting people in most settings where vampires are involved wouldn't be an issue, is if either you're applying gameplay mechanics to how the world works directly, or if for whatever reason your setting is so ludicrously high-magic that every town's local priest can heal wounds, and on top of that, is allowed to heal wounds by whatever god grants their power, in spite of supporting what most deities consider to be an undead abomination.
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Witcher did it pretty well I think, where the more bestial ones are seen as lesser almost like children and the more powerful vampires are much better at living among humans.

Then kind of looping back to the most powerful being both and neither.
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>>53610644
No, you're correct
Bram Stoker's Dracula is actually quite far removed from the traditional vampire though, despite its cultural relevance.
Dracula is more the "misunderstood powerful wizard that drinks blood" kind of vampire, as opposed to being a predatory monster.
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>>53581753
No Alucard?

I like them like I like Gary Oldman in Bram Stroker's Dracula- FUCKING SEXY
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>>53616147

AWAKEN, MY MASTERS!
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>>53581575
A constant slide from left to right depending on the amount of blood that is drunk. Why should every member of a species (or whatever vampires are) be the same? This way you have an option for them to do the right thing at personal cost.
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>>53613974
iirc Stoker's Dracula's powers mostly came from him being a witch rather than being inherent to being a vampire.
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>>53581596
Amen to that
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>>53617992
who is this girl and where is she from?
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>>53618278
Her name is Yupiel. As was mentioned in an earlier post itt. From Yupiel-sama no geboku. It's nsfw.
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>>53585876
>>53586126


It doesn't help that many settings treat lycanthropy as a superpower or worse, as a fursona. There's little or no disadvantage to it. Werewolfism is best for NPC's because it means the DM doesn't have to balance around your PC's trait. Whereas Vampirism have little or no inconvenience depending on setting because much of the Vampire myth is hiding in plain sight.
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>>53611456
You can give up to 1L every couple of days. Half that a week is nothing.
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>>53581575
Well Done.
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>>53616602
The chad-pire has risen!
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I've always liked the bloodborne version of a vampire, normal people who are really into blood, who if exposed to enough, will go mad and become like beasts (and basically vampire werewolves, haha)
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>>53612925
>vodyani
>fallen lords
You, I like you.
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>>53619773
Vilebloods are the settings vampires more than anything.
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>>53581575
In sphess
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>>53581575
Mentally, a vampire is exactly the person they were before, with full continuity of consciousness and everything, except they no longer have the capacity for love or empathy. Additionally, they start involuntarily hungering for human blood, and in absence of the ability to feel positive emotion towards humans, their sadistic tendencies become gradually amplified. A particularly morally grounded person might continue to act well as a young vampire, but after a while it becomes harder and harder to think of people as anything other than food. The absolute best any old vampire could aspire to is a sense of ethics based purely in pragmatism and game theory, and most simply accept their nature, assuming their raw power will be enough to protect them from repercussions.
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The real question is how do you like your dhampires?
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>>53581575
>Visually, they combine elements of the classic Nosferatu with more modern depictions. A beautiful, but alien creature with undeniably bestial aspects.
>Mentally or emotionally, they are not hampered, but everything they do is colored by their thirst. They are predatory in all things.
>ANY blood can satisfy the thirst, but it is ever present. It can be tempered, but never tamed.
>Human blood has become tedious. When there were fewer humans in the world, it was a delicacy. Now it's positively pedestrian. The lukewarm tap water of bloods.
>Confidentially, the "in" blood at the moment is marmoset.
>The older they get, the stronger they get. The eldest vampires are supernatural juggernauts.
>They can reproduce naturally and turn mortals. A turned vampire will always be weaker and less stable than a natural vampire.

More? I've got some mummy ideas, too.
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>>53612925
it bothers me that Kain is still not in these
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>>53620527
>mummy
Has anyone ever noticed the similarities between vampires and mummies?
>both sleep in boxes
>both shapeshift
>both are magically powerful
>both are aristocrats/royalty
>both have exploitable weaknesses
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>>53620792
I'd exploit her weakness if you know what I mean
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>>53620792
>vampire: turns into wolf
>mummy: turns into jackal

>vampire: turns into swarm of bats
>mummy: turns into swarm of beetles

>vampire: turns into mist
>mummy: turns into sand
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>>53621025
>>mummy: turns into jackal
u wot
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>>53621048
Jackal.
Thematically tied to Anubis, the Egyptian god of the afterlife.
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>>53621144
>Anubis
Also the god of MUMMIFICATION.
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>>53621657
Exactly!
Another interesting connection between vamps and mums is that vamps are creatures of the night while mummies are very much creatures of the sun.
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>>53621895
I remember one vampire thread suggesting the idea that vampires are hurt by the crucifix because of how it represents the concept of the True Resurrection and Eternal Life that their brand is a hollow parody of. And how by that logic the Egyptian Ankh could also do the same.
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>>53621930
That's an interesting concept.
>Vampires are twisted parodies of True Resurrection and Eternal Life
>Mummies are given new life by the gods and are truly immortal
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>>53620792
>Mummies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEM2ERDg0tc
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>>53622177
>Vampires
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-Ds56RTqqU
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>>53607441

>the ones from Blindsight

What is Blindsight? I tried googling it but it came but with thousands of results even with other terms to try narrowing it down.
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>>53581575
>How do you prefer your vampires?

In space, serving as the ruling elite of the Vampire Hegemony.

>Why?

Because I'm a huge geek.

As for the vamps themselves, I like having them embody both the worst and the best stereotypes of a feudal aristocracy. They are arrogant elitists and literally parasitical on the lower classes, but they also operate on the basis of personal loyalty, courage, and noblesse oblige. They grow in power as they age, and also grow steadily less human.
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>>53581788
What about a murder monster that lures/disarms victims by appearing human, appealing to their victims' good nature ("Hey, let me in"), or using hypnotic powers? Case in point: Salem's Lot (at least the book, I never saw the movie because I heard it was different and awful).
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>>53622216

I think he means: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blindsight_(Watts_novel)

>Vampires are predators from humanity's distant past, resurrected through recovered DNA, and live among the humans of the late 21st century. These vampires operate with diminished sentience presented as comparable to high-functional autism with comparable dysfunction in affect and speech, but have the advantage of multiple simultaneous thoughts occurring in parallel within their minds. Enhanced pattern-matching skills comparable to some forms of autism combine with this "hyperthreading" to make them invaluable in developing unusual and often very-effective approaches to solving complex problems
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>>53622485
Sauce?
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>>53621930

I've also seen theories arguing that the crucifix repels vampires because Christ is an "anti-vampire": he gives his blood to others, to grant them Eternal Life, instead of stealing blood from people to sustain himself.
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>>53581753
Slayer, Castlevania Drac, and Dio
also you're forgetting Alucard from Hellsing
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>>53610455
>t. bloodsucker scum
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>>53622621
Herny.
http://kindahornyart.tumblr.com/
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>>53622698
Thank you very much.
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Blood keeps vampires rational. Blood starved vampires become irrational and far more powerful as they starve out. Progressing from mostly human to horrific bat monsters. This isn't a back and forth scale, you don't revert to rational, you stay at your worst. Being a vampire means being doomed to eventual insanity.
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>>53622727
Y/w.
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>>53581575
Call me a a weeb if you like, but I really enjoyed the way Hellsing treated vampirism. They become nigh-unstoppable monsters sure, but they lose the most important parts of themselves.

>I bring all that I am to this fight, body and soul, but is it enough? How can our arsenals compare? He can change form, summon familiars, bend men to his will, and the taste of human blood brings him life anew...and these powers, he can call upon as quickly as a man might blink!
>But I take the stage with nothing. Why, do you ask? Because I am a human being.
>Vampirism is brilliant. One can quaff another's soul like a vintage ice wine and steal everything that defines them.
>Sharing one's life with another, and they with you, losing one the borders of oneself in the great sanguine sea.
>To gain by losing, what a delicious irony! It is the bliss of acquiescence. It is the bliss of...surrender.
>And so I say, "To Hell with you! What's mine is mine alone. Every hair, every drop of blood...I am me. I am me. I. Am. Me! You are ruin, made flesh, made beautiful. You are loved, and so I despise you."
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>>53622576

Thank you!
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Sunbathing < MOONbathing
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>>53622787
>there are people who unironically want to be Alucard from Hellsing

These people are worse than the "smug loli vampire" faggots, and that's a very high bar to match.
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>>53622981
>want to be
Missing the point entirely.jpg
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>>53622997
Are you implying these people don't exist?
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>>53623009
I'm sure they do, but they don't have much to do with that post.
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>>53623026
People who take Hellsing to be a decent commentary on the human spirit are also faggots, but somewhat less so. My bigger gripe is with the other half of the Hellsing cancerdom that desperately want to be Alucard or Seras because they're SO COOOOOL.
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I like to keep them monstrous in nature but sophisticated in appearance. They'll act high class and elitist, but doing so while eating a little kid sprawled out on the table like a freshly cracked lobster.

As for what OP has posted, I have them stay sort of Dracula-y while not in dire combat, but when pushed to it the grotesque mess of flesh and bone vampire comes out swinging with crazy twisted limbs and unnatural strength and sperd.
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RULING OVER THE NIGHT AND THE HERD, LIKE THE LORDS THEY ARE
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>Get absolutely plastered
>BAC = Yes
>Vamp gf drinks spiked blood
>Gets hammered
Yes? No?
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>>53610644
He had a shit load of taboos (from his magic, not from his vampirism), but sunlight was the biggest deal.
Almost all of his magic was dispelled by sunlight, and the rest was weakened/limited by it.

>To the point where he was actually killable.
It's been a while since I've read it, did he even get knifed at day?

>>53617948
This is correct. He was a Scholomance alumnus.

>>53613974
>Bram Stoker's Dracula is actually quite far removed from the traditional vampire though,
Expanding on this, he was a crotchy, unattractive, old man who did all his "seduction" through mind control.
He also wasn't particularly cultured, though he went well out of his way to try to be.
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>>53623189
>Stoker's Dracula's powers mostly came from him being a witch
>He was a Scholomance alumnus.
I wish this got more attention in modern adaptations of Dracula and vampires in general I suppose
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>>53623230
One thing to note,

>>53613974
>as opposed to being a predatory monster.
Dracula was rather tame, but the Brides ere *absolutely* predatory monsters.
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>>53623099
>Yes
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>>53623525
That Juste is so hot right now.
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>>53623625
Ye!
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>>53581575
Is both too much to ask for?
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>>53623671
I feel ya, one of the reasons why I like WHFB and even WoD vampires is that you have nice variety of vampires to choose from.
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>>53581839
oh god i need more of this
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>>53581839
I've been wanting to get into Nosgoth stuff. Where do I start?
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>>53623801
DO NOT ASK FOR CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER
>Blood Omen
>Soul Reaver
>Soul Reaver 2
>Blood Omen 2
>LoK: Defiance
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>>53581753
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>>53623853
>DO NOT ASK FOR CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER
Why?
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>>53623870
This.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMrou_zJNtc
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>>53608146
Pretty sure he doesn't have any. As in, it got sliced off, probably in one of his battles.
But if he still had them it'll probably be black like his dad's.
Though who's to say he didn't slice them off, or while in Castevania city he met a prostitute who's into kinky shit or something.
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>>53612613
I like how when Dresden (and the reader) find out there's more than one type of vamp, he covers it up immediately. "yeah, multiple courts, of course I knew that"
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Xfiles club vamps
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>>53581575
Like I prefer my women. With a steak in them
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I remember a thread in which a poster reasoned that vamps should be stuck in the attitudes they grew up in. A hundred-year-old American vamp would be as racist as anyone else who grew up around Lovecraft's time.
>Vlad "killin coons by the light of the moon" Dracula
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>>53581575
Nos fera tu
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This thread put me in the mood for some good, vampire focused, story. Can you guys recommend me something? Any medium but vidya is fine.
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It might sound awesome to date several vampires at once, but it loses its charm after the third or fourth blood transfusion.
It will also burn you out on chocolate chip cookies and OJ.
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>>53624686
Bram Stoker was a hack, who couldn't write in accents or frame a story to save his life yet took; yet took great pride in his attempts at both.
At said, start with the classics.
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>>53624686
>>53627337
Oh. Also, What We Do in the Shadows.
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>>53620596
He's third in the top row
Or WoD Kain?
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>>53624298
how long and how thick does she want her steak?
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>>53597828
they were demons but they had their silly vampire joke lines.

they were not clearly vampires.

you saw one instance that looked like feeding and jumped to vampires.
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>>53581575
Utterly insane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfcJUl39iiA
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I like pre Anne Rice. Less Fabio, more a spectrum betwen Dracula and Count Orlock. Terrifying, ancient monsters, wearing (somewhat) the shape of humans, but different. On the Dracula spectrum, you have the carnal/seductive/animalistic/beast side of the devil, and on the Orlock side, you have more the demon, the inhuman, the monster, the embodiment of terror. I like their origins to be theistic, curses from good gods, deals with devils, the loss of the soul and essence of humanity.

When we played VtM my favorite game ever was when we ended up playing 5th-8th generation elders. Five of us, all just... monsters in our own right, a small cabal of Inconnu who were disturbed by a Camarilla/Sabbat feud over their home city which was ... disruptive. I got to play the 5th gen, (a nosferatu methuseleh who was the group's "tender" for their unknown patron, who pretended to be the offspring of his offspring, (played by my little sister), who was a nanny monster to bunch of orphans she ghouled and eventually turned because she thought they got ugly when they got old, a gangrel 7th gen, who was sort of a female dracula/countess bathory inspired horror, an 8th generation mayan tremere sorceress whose backstory was ... convoluted, but she was the wildcard in the group, damn younguns, oh and then a ventrue priest who was on a crusade against changelings. There was very little of the struggle with humanity, we were set at our levels, our conflict with the Beast had reached a comfortable stalemate at the 4-5 humanity level, and the ST also kept the game more about being the ancient 500+ year old bastards we were, rather than the usual fledgling stuff.
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>>53583198
Good taste anon Jiang-Shi are the best.
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I want them to be complete and utter monsters who nonetheless have convinced themselves they are still civilized creatures. What series treat them this way?
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>>53623671
In that case you prefer left. Dracula has a monster form. Dunno what the fuck that man-bat thing is or if it has a human form, but Castlevania Dracula transforms into all sorts of monsters, bats, wolves, etc.

>>53581575
Leaning too hard into the whole werebat thing always struck me as being just as dorky as sparklepires, in the opposite direction. Humanoid vampires can generally shapeshift, just include it in that. The real problem isn't making them pretty anyway, it's turning them into sympathetic good guys all the time. Same deal with witches.
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>>53581753
why not all? Different causes lead to different manifestations, or even just individual difference
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>>53581575
With dicks.
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>>53586294
>blonde eyelashes
why do people do this
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>>53586126
what about a person with a split personality who believes the beast is a different person who they cant control but tries to convince people not to piss off and warns them of it, not knowing that he's the beast all along?
checkmate faggot
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I like my vampires sealed for eternity within a subterranean office toiling away at endless clerical nightmares. Constantly aware of a discarded sock on the surface, but never capable of penetrating the stone confines of their masterwork engraved walls to claim it. The bookkeeping must be up to date.
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>>53634943
but... where does the vampire part come in
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>>53634967
Sitting in an opulent office for eternity is the vampire part. They don't need to drink blood. It just adds spice to their otherwise grey existance.
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>>53624378
Oh totally. One of the major NPCs in a VtM game I ran was a Ventrue sired near the end of the Civil War. She was a plantation owner's daughter and lost pretty much her whole family in the war.

She hates Yankees as much as blacks.
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>>53635046
>Sitting in an opulent office for eternity is the vampire part.
I must be doing something wrong.
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>>53594915
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>>53621144
>Egyptian god of the afterlife
Pretty sure that's Osiris. Anubis does play a part in the rites and categorization of the dead but Osiris is the mac daddy of the Duat.
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>>53635596
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anubis
>Anubis or Anpu is the Greek name of a god associated with mummification and the afterlife in ancient Egyptian religion, usually depicted as a canine or a man ...
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>>53581575
>Devoted Husband
>Reasonable authority figure
>Cares about the well being of his subjects
>Cares about the fate of the realm
>Nigh-Immortal monster in combat
>Does what must be done to win

Vlad's still my favorite, RIP
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>>53635796
I'd take Vlad over Chaos any day, hell I'd take Vlad over many Emperors the Empire had.
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>>53635796
>>53636162
Native Sylvanians seriously had it pretty good despite their circumstances, they were like free-range cows that lived pretty full and happy lives before getting slaughtered.
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>>53636313
I imagine going into battle with skeletons and zombies being cannon fodder instead of you must've been great for morale all things considered.
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>>53581575
>start party
>My friends were a dwarf fighter, a human ranger, a human bard, and I'm a human fighter with high dexterity.
>this guy joins us. A human cleric/druid(?) (the guy never told us what he was but he had skills with alchemy and healing)
>halfway through our adventure the guy starts creeping us out with all these bullshit abilities that sounded like they were based off some homebrew
>the DM clears it for some reason, the DM is the one who introduced us to this guy so it must've been nepotism for him to tolerate this bs
>anyway the guy he reveals he's some vampire, but with all these bullshit special rules that don't sound anything like a vampire
>sunlight doesn't bother him, he doesn't need to drink blood, stakes don't hurt him, garlic doesn't deter him, etc.
>anyway, he carries the party for the rest of the adventure until the DM kills him off at the final boss for no reason. total bullshit. I was pissed.
>anyone else had ny weird experiences with "vampires"?
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>>53581575
Why not both?
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>>53635587
>good luck I'm behind 7 proxies
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>>53636726
>"If you acknowledge any gods, start praying."
Such a cool boss fight.
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>>53636529
Regis best girl
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I like cute vampires because i like cute things!
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>>53636809
Aye
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>>53636811
Cute vampires? Why not sexy ones?
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>>53636529
>anyway, he carries the party for the rest of the adventure until the DM kills him off at the final boss for no reason. total bullshit. I was pissed.
remember that the DM killed like 3/4 of the party during the boss fight and then some more at the end of the game
I wouldn't want to play at that drunkard fatso's table
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i like my "lesser" vampires to be beastial and mindless, but still as physically strong as greater, making them still a very real threat, just impossible to mistake and easy to "trick"

and then "greater" vampires with extreme strength but also cunning and abilities such as instant shapeshifting, invisibility, hypnosis(and servants to go with) maybe even some regular magic

and ofcourse, some "medium" vampires, human shaped but with nosferatu appearence, some of the intellect, but mostly on par with the average human, smart enough to stay hidden and stalk the shadows, they also got the special abilities, just much weaker versions.
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>>53634542
People can have blonde eyelashes.
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