How many Primaris Chapters can Iron Man Exterminate in a day ?

>>53571292
None. I doubt he's even a match for one normal space marine

Bleeding Edge IronMan would Curbstomp anything until tired.
Then the autopilot of the suit can probably still destruct anything the imperium throw at him.

>>53571305
>None. I doubt he's even a match for one normal space marine
Movie Ironman lifts cars like it's nothing, he also has weapons that obliterate tanks in a single hit. Pretty sure he can utterly devastate a single space marine. And this without counting Hulkbuster.

If we go by the comics, he can dual wield tanks and tank nukes.

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>>53571305
Lol, even movie IronMan would BTFO a chapter easily.

40Kids truly are the cancer of /tg/

I know I'm supposed to listen when autism speaks but this is the written equivalent of TV static.

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>>53571305
>Marines killed daily by shitty chainswords
>IronMan casually tank a nuke while thinking about which girl hes gonna fuck tonight.

>Can't kill a single marine

>>53571332
A company maybe, but even that is questionable, but chapter definitely not. Unless we are talking about comic universe where Tony can make any asspull he wants.

The chapter is not only space marines but also all the supporting personnel, spaceships and armored vehicles. We are talking here about a pretty large FTL capable army with ability to cleanse worlds of all life.

>>53571292
Depends on the fanbase.

>>53571305
One marine can be killed by a grot with a close combat weapon.

In the books they get swarmed and killed by mobs with knives.

Ironman is going to be pretty much immune to anything the space Marines can throw at him until a Librarian shows up. I don't recall but don't believe his suit has built in protection against magic and pyschic bullshit, that would be more Dr. Dooms style

Librarians aside, Ironman is mobile enough and durable enough to handle everything they have, and if ANY suit Mark is available has the firepower to wipe out whole chapters.

Until a Librarian brainfucks him.

>>53571292
Zero. He has no space travel. Abandon planet, commence orbital bombardment. Or just leave him there. He'll die of old age before they do.

>>53571461
>He has no space travel

Movie fags pls go

>>53571461
He has space travel, in both the comics and the movies.

>>53571461
>What's starboost armor?
Both in movie and in comics he has space traveling armors. Though sure, we don't know much about the one in the movie, we don't know if it has FTL speed, comicwise he has.

>>53571317
>Movie Ironman lifts cars like it's nothing,
pretty sure space marine, especially Primaris, can do it too
>he also has weapons that obliterate tanks in a single hit.
What is a melta for 300, Alex?

>>53571648
>posting in a thread he hasn't even read

>>53571510

A melta might have trouble hitting a flying target. Long range, they are not.

>>53571292
Lol, thinks his primitive melta and eldar tier power armor stands a chance against the Asartes.

>>53571669
>Primitive melta
Taking into account most of his tech comes from when he traveled to the 31 century I think yours is the primitive one

>>53571449
It's always the Librarian in these kinds of threads.
Funny, if I recall right /tg/ *agreed* that the only things Librarians can't rape are those crazy dudes from EYE. And aren't they the same guy?

Didn't Tony in the movies slowed a meteorite the size of a city? that's pretty strong

>>53571780
Warp Fuckery is the only thing that really sets 40k apart.

Dr. Doom would be immune to warp fuckery because he's also a fucking sorcerer and blends magic and technology together like a heretek

But yeah, on infantry level, the only thing Space Marines have that could cut through Tony's more advanced armor is Melta's. since he routinely tanks the equivalent of plasma and las cannons. And that's assuming they could hit him since he's moving at the speed of a jet fighter and unloading the firepower of a broadside at a fraction of the size/silhouette.

The weak point of Ironman has always been the man inside the suit, on a personal level Tony is a fucking mess of a human being, even at his most earnestly good. A powerful pysker would overload whatever tech based contingency he has to protect himself (it's Marvel so i'm sure he's got something) and peel his pysche apart like an onion, tormenting him with horrible visions and despair.

>>53571998
Comics are very inconsistent though, Ironman had tanked attacks from even the Phoenix force, a galaxy eating psychic entity, yet sometimes your literallywho psychic overcomes his defenses.

I also agree that it would take an exterminatus or a couple of librarians to kill him if we use the comic version. Though, and taking into account his nanomachines and hacking skills, if he had enough time could he hack librarian's armor systems and turn the psychic hood against it's wielder?

Movie version would last enough to destroy a couple of transports/tanks and maybe a couple of dozens of Space Marines.

>>53571292
Iron Man is a big two comic book character, which is to say grossly inconsistent.
One week he kill a space god, the other lose to a random ninja.

>>53571292
>MY SYSTEM / HERO IS BETTER THAN YOUR SYSTEM / HERO
Pathetic.

>>53571998
>since he routinely tanks the equivalent of plasma and las cannons. And that's assuming they could hit him since he's moving at the speed of a jet fighter and unloading the firepower of a broadside at a fraction of the size/silhouette

Yeah, Tony is just too OP.

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Better question; how quickly do the Space Marines bow down to the (younger) master of mankind?

M 30''
his advanced flight systems allow him to take-off and land at will, moving at near supersonic speeds without needing a minimum velocity

BS 2+
since his built in targeting systems combined with his experience allow him supreme accuracy
WS 5+
while not inept at close combat after his experiences with the avengers, he is nonetheless uncomfortable in CC
S7
his power armor can easily lift objects dozens of times his size, easily outputting as much strength as a military truck
T3
despite the armor, he is nonetheless a fragile human underneath
W4
as a character he gains a substantial quantity of wounds
A3
he has an average number of wounds for a character
Sv 4+/5++
his armor is proof against autocannons, though not in volume, and his powerful on-board computer always provides him to-the-second data to avoid harm

weapons
palm repulsors: 6'', pistol 1, S3 AP0 D1
Unibeam: 18'', Assault 1, S4 AP-1 D1, S increases by 1 when firing within half range
Anti-tank missiles: 36'' Assault 1, S6 AP-3 Dd3, this may only be fired twice per game,
Jericho Submunitions: 24'' Assault 2d6, S6 AP-2 Dd3, this may only be fired once per game
Death Blossom lasers: 6'' Assault d6, s8 AP-4 D3, this attack may only be used once per game, this attack automatically hits its targets

palm blasters
after shooting one of his weapons, iron man may always make an additional shooting attack with his palm repulsors
genius intellect
you gain an additional 1 CP
Jet-flight
subtract 1 from hit rolls made against iron man during the shooting phase, if he moved more than 15'' during his movement phase

>>53571292
Okay, assuming we're talking about movie Iron man, he got his ass kicked in the MCU (Captain America: Civil War) by Captain America and Winter Soldier, which roughly equates to Straken and a space marine outside his power armour but armed with a Storm shield. Iron man loses.

>>53571292
MCU Tony was shot by a tank cannon, all it did was scorch his armor and knock him out of the air. If a tank cannon shoots a space marine, that space marine is hamburger.

>>53576466
After Iron Man 3, he's probably got a 4+ or even 3+ in CC, after all, he is shown training in martial arts and he's quite capable, he's just not the most astoundingly dangerous martial artist on the team, but his competition is a god, a super soldier, an assassin/super soldier, and the motherfucking Hulk.

>>53577203
Cap's shield is virtually indestructible and absorbs kinetic energy to the point full world breaker Hulk could punch it and still not move cap

>>53577241
not if that space marine rolls his save.

>>53577499
It's a tank shell, brah, most of those will punch through Marine armor, unless they nerfed the armor penetration rules since last I looked. I'll admit to being an edition behind, but a Leman Russ is modified farm equipment and it's cannon still smears marines across the pavement.

>>53571292
I think it'd just be a case of one guy against hundreds. Even if Iron Man is stronger, due to suit shenanigans (to which I readily admit I don't know every suit he has access to) he can only dodge so much bolter fire, right? Action economy and all

>>53577540
Nope, that's a second century tank shell. I doubt it even has ap 5.

>>53577631
His armors can move by their own though

>>53577635
Second millennium, dumbass. Side note: the heavy stubber is supposedly an M2 HMG and it has AP 5.

>>53571317
Iron Man wears shitty titanium armor that is at most a couple inches thick, and was severely harmed by Movie Captain America beating it and causing dents. Even rifle rifle causes minor chipping and spalling on the titanium shell. A single shot from a boltgun would kill movie Iron Man.

Now comic Iron Man is a completely different animal who depending on the time, might even be a Celestial tier being.

>>53577631
House party protocol.

>>53577694
It is notably much tougher than actual Titanium is. Titanium that thick, should by all rights have left him hamburger in the first movie.

>>53577694
Those dents were caused by the shield and Bucky's arm, both made of vibranium alloy, also know as bullshitium

And titanium was his second armor, from there all were made of stuff that doesn't exist

>>53577669
Oh, didn't know that.

>>53577754
In the first movie he isn't shot by anything that wouldn't have seriously fucked up several inch thick armor grade titanium. Contrary to popular belief Iron Man was NOT shot by a tank in the first movie, he was instead hit by the anti-aircraft flak cannon mounted on the side of the tank's main gun which is a far smaller projectile, and is a high explosive shrapnel charge. Not a kinetic penetrator like a SABOT.

>>53577757
Vibranium isn't going to make your punches with a shield punchier beyond the fact that you're hitting with a metal object that has zero give and is harder as a material. Cap's still using a blunt object to repeatedly hit Iron Man and it actually does damage.

Considering that bolters penetrate 8 inches of plasteel, which is super space steel able to resist over a gigajoule of thermal energy and survive impacts from shit like 200mm cannons or however in the fuck the Leman Russ cannon scales, that's not going to go well for Iron Man if he takes merely one to the body. Especially these new Bolt Rifles which are probably 1.00 caliber similar to the Heavy Bolter.

>>53571332
>Implying Marvel fans haven't been the cancer of geekdom since 1963
Nobody gave a shit about this character until a reformed drug addict played him.

>>53577874
No, Cap and Bucky were able to put dents in Tony's armor because vibranium/adamantium allow (on top of being able to lift cars with a hand), same way wolverine can cut tanks in half even though he has no super strenght, because Marvel metals make no sense. So don't come with numbers because these here have zero validity

And again, Iron Man's armor stopped being Titanium at the end of the 1st movie, rest were [insert invented name]-idium

>>53578086
Except we have zero indication of Vibranium being able to do special things like this. Instead we have a being (Steve), with his enhanced strength, is able to cause noticeable damage to Tony's armor. And last I checked we don't have any indication from the movies that he doesn't still make his suits out of titanium, especially when vibranium is used up in Cap's shield.

Also, Wolverine is owned by Fox and not a part of the MCU.

>>53578162
Not him but is actually Titanium gold for Mark III (the first red and gold armor) and we don't really know about the rest because it isn't mentioned. Mark I is actually steel and iron, Mark II is full Titanium.
I remember reading in the artbook of IM3 that some of his marks had different metals and alloys, for example Starboost (the one with space travel capabilities) is made with "a special and unique alloy that absorbs the energy from the arc reactor".

>>53578285
Titanium Gold exists in real life.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium_gold

It's four times harder than Titanium, so it'd make pretty good armor but be vulnerable to something hitting it hard enough that it would shatter. Metal's a bitch like that.

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>>53571292
None! For the Emperor protects! The proud Primaris will smite this abominable heretic! No armour is strong enough to withstand rightous fury! And I don't mean this one-eyed bald guy there!

>>53577874
He was shot by the main cannon of a tank and the 20mm cannon on an F-22, both of which punch clean the fuck through that much titanium.

>>53576412
If he's out of water, he'll do a shitload of damage before getting his ass kicked.
If he's anywhere near water at all there's fucking nothing they can do to him; he's regularly thrown down with the Hulk when hydrated and won fairly easily.

>>53578285
Most of Tony's suits have fairly wide-ranging capabilities.
He's actually gotten rid of several models shortly after using them because he just couldn't risk it falling into the wrong hands.

>>53578809
Like most of the Buster line. Even if they ultimately failed.

40k is fundamentally an 80's setting, using 80's movie storytelling and 80's action movie aesthetics and 80's movie sophistication, which later on fanboys who write the fluff try to Dragonball Z into the stratosphere, except that in actual practice in the fluff people still die to stupid 80's movie shit because otherwise the people writing the setting would have to actually get better at their jobs.

Therefore, Tony Stark's 1980's Silver Centurion armor would be an even match for most Space Marine chapters and anything made after it that has actually changed with the times would be more then a match.

>>53578842
The Buster line always runs into the fundamental problem of Tony needing to make his armors out of real physical stuff, and the fact that underneath his armor he's a regular guy and his armor can't block 100% of the punishment the most powerful guys in Marvel can throw his way. Tony's just BARELY punching at the level of the most powerful guys in his universe these days, but anyone who's seriously in that class (Namor, Hulk, Thor, Hercules, Gladiator, Hyperion and his various clones, etc) vastly outstrips him in raw power.

The one time his Buster-style armor actually seemed up to anything was when it was made out of fucking Uru-metal with the help of the dwarves who made Mjolnir.

>>53577899
>goalposts

>>53578957
The movie Hulkbuster worked well, all things told, but Tony also built it with the idea that 'well, shit's gonna get broken, so I might as well have replacement parts' which is honestly deeper thinking than Tony is usually allowed to have.

MCU Tony could probably kill a few marines before getting gunned down. In every movie after IM1, his suits have gotten progressively more fragile to the point where he's swapping suits four-plus times a movie, sometimes mid-fight. You can chalk that up to either A - the threat level of villains in each movie has gotten progressively higher, or B - Tony's been prioritizing portability and ease of use over defense. Both seem to be true.

Or option C - the writers just want armor porn and to show RDJ's face for the ladies so they make his suits break every five fucking minutes.

>>53579030
There is nothing wrong with option C. What is wrong is his need to recharge his suits. The thing in the chest is a goddamn reactor, not a battery.

>>53579049
They got rid of his chest reactor at the end of IM3. I'm assuming that each suit comes with its own reactor now.

>>53579030
Movie Iron Man seems to be around his pre-1980's level of power: dangerous but not the army-killing monster that small countries are legitimately concerned that he has the power to destroy their entire armed forces overnight.

>>53579030
Or D. They want to sell four Iron Man toys for the movie instead of just one. Also god forbid we have a cool Hawkeye or Black Widow toy. It kills me that there are no Hawkeye nerf bow toys.

>>53579073
True, but there's no excuse for him running low on juice in IM3, but he still did, for whatever reason. At least in AoU and Civil War he didn't seem to suffer from the issue, but he also wasn't the focus in the fight.

>>53571360
For reference; these panels are not Tony taking a huge explosion and just getting a little rattled. This is Tony taking a nuclear bomb and getting a little rattled.

Later in this same series he's fighting the guy who caused the bomb and is firing off energy blasts that are openly stated to be the equivalent of small nuclear weapons, and he STILL wins that fight.

>>53579086
>no Hawkeye nerf bows
http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=69431796&gclid=Cj0KEQjwmcTJBRCYirao6oWPyMsBEiQA9hQPbljxDvCJwHsbIkGeV_hjgzDqczPXQWByuSxDaiC9uikaArNJ8P8HAQ&camp=PLAPPCG-_-PID22015973%3aTRUS&cagpspn=plat_22015973&eESource=CAPLA_DF%3a69431796%3aTRUS
You're welcome.

>>53579148
Shit I never saw that in a store. I might get that for my nephew for his upcoming birthday.

>>53579202
yeah, your "nephew".

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>>53578692
No, he was shot by the cannons on the side of the tank. These are probably 30mm and are high explosives meant to knock out aircraft, meaning they're shit at armor penetration.

The 20mm cannon on the F-22's were mostly glancing off him as well because of the angle of fire. And the vulcan is also shit at penetration, only has around 6-12mm of penetrations against armor. I'd say Tony has maybe 3 inches of armor on his thickest parts, so that's not going to do much to him.

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>>53571292
>Fight 1 : Iron man has access to Any MCU suits
Unless you give him freebies like saying he lines up a shot with the two red lasers perfectly to wipe out a whole chapter at once, most of his suits couldn't take a Chapter by themselves.

"By themselves" is key there, because of the house party protocol from 3. That gives us half a company of Iron Men. Given how much trouble they had against foes with much more limited ranged firepower than Astartes, I think movie Tony could wipe out 2-3 Chapters at most.

>Fight 2 : Extremis / bleeding edge suits available.
Iron Man kills every space marine ever. Comics Tony is hilariously OP.

>>53571449
Dr Strange has helped Stark make armor that is resistant to immune to magic. just saying

>>53580208
to be honest comicwise his armors also have tech from s31 and onwards.

>>53579470
the 20mm on an F-22 still shreds titanium.

>>53571292
He could take on at least a whole chapter with the Hulkbuster armor, but it would stretch his limitations.

>>53571388
in the fucking first movie they beat a pretty large FTL capable army with ability to cleanse worlds of all life.

>>53580433
The aliens in that first movie also had guns that turned normal people into ashes in a single shot, which is way more impressive than a boltgun can do, but a lot closer to a plasma gun, but you'd be hard-pressed to think Thor or Hulk were that bothered by it, except when the aliens were literally trying to drown Hulk in plasma, and even that didn't do anything significant to him.

>>53580549
Hulk's whole superpower is "Nuh-uh! That just makes me even more mad!"

>>53580606
And? He might be lame, but he was still able to shrug that shit off, as was Captain America, and neither Thor nor Iron Man seemed seriously hurt by being shot by energy blasts which could blow up cars or vaporize civilians.

>>53580333
Not armor titanium, and not several inches titanium. The Vulcan is meant for shooting down modern aircraft which barely have any, if any, armor to speak of. Especially against a prone Iron Man flying forwards so he presents the flattest possible target to the jets behind, almost all of those bullets unsurprisingly sparked off. However Tony considered those F-22's a threat to his suit, and if they had gotten a straight 90 degreee hit against his armor it would have probably fucked him up, if albeit not penetrated as the Vulcan only has something like 12.7mm of penetration.

>>53580686
Considering that Captain America is seriously harmed by regular old bullets flying straight through his body, it's safe to say that the Chitauri were using a different power setting on their weapons. Although I don't recall them vaporizing people either.

>>53577671
Heavy stubber is ap6

>>53580606
Just like abbadon then

>>53571292
>How many a day?
Movie Ironman could do well in a fight. I'll give the benefit of the doubt and say his armor could withstand a decent number of direct hits from bolter fire. If he plays it right and uses his advantages, the primary of which is his mobility, he could take on a squad of space marines and come out standing. Much more than at once and he's dead. Also he could get killed with a single lucky hit from a krak missile, or if Tony fucks up a marine could get close enough to melt his face of with a melta gun.

>comic Ironman
Super hero comic character's are OP as fuck.

We don't even have any info or feats on Primaris power levels you faggots how the fuck does this thread have so many responses just proves you faggots are full of shit

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>Bringing Bleeding edge suit into this.

Why don't you just give him the trophy? As much as 40k fans want to say nothing can beat Space Marines ever, Model 38 would make all of the primarchs team up sweat.

>>53584949
>As much as 40k fans want to say nothing can beat Space Marines ever

Why is this even a meme? Space Marines regularly get beaten by shit in 40k

>>53577874
Vibranium is pretty bullshit, like Black Panther has some in his shoes so he can jump off rooftops without dying

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>>53584999
Because they don't know what Dune is?

>>53571332
not just /tg/ but wherever fiction is discussed in general.

>>53578086

Vibranium and adamantium are two different things. If wolverine had vibranium claws and skeleton he'd be complete shit.

>>53571449
Not even Emma can mess with his mind, so good luck with the librarian

>>53585533
Keks were haded

>>53585053
Vibranium seems to absorb most of any force that is inflicted upon it, but that shouldn't drastically enhance the damage you inflict when you whack something with it. And regardless, movie Iron Man's suits just aren't that durable outside of the hulkbuster, and a boltgun should absolutely be a terrifying threat for him given it's HEAP ammo with something like 200mm penetration against super space steel, with god-knows-how-much penetration against ordinary armor grade steel.

And as armaments go, repulsors aren't going to be terribly lethal against power armor considering that people blasted by them are not only intact, but not turn into a gore-ridden horror show. And ceramite is pretty fucking good at absorbing thermal energy.

>>53580808
Not especially, it looked like he was punched pretty hard, but if you'll recall, he was shot three times, after a long day of fighting, and he still got up. It wasn't until he then also fell out of the Helicarrier that he was basically done. He had been fighting since around dawn, after all.

>>53580785
Titanium armor's comparable to steel and steel's shit. We will use it if we don't have any other solution, but even the Stryker doesn't use it. We don't use it in vests, we don't use it in our tanks. The only thing we armor in titanium is the A-10, but weight isn't a huge issue with the A-10, due to it's ginormous wingspan.

>>53586759
Steel's not terrible. It's weak against high velocity weapons, but it's good structural material - stronger than titanium per unit volume.

Titanium is used in aircraft because it's stronger per unit mass. Russians use it for body armor because Russia has lots of titanium and sucks at advanced ceramics.

>>53577203
Reminder that MCU War Machine armor got fucked by a glancing blow from Visions mind gem beam.

That's gotta be S10 AP1. So something equivalent could one-shot MCU Tony.

>>53586759
Uh anon, most of our armored vehicles are made out of composite steel armor. Not titanium. Titanium is pretty shit because it's more brittle, while steel is able to absorb impacts better without shattering/breaking.

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>>53571332
>Makes a shitty, "which fictional character from universe x can beat fictional character from universe y" crossover thread
>Calling anyone else cancer
You're funny.

>>53586872
It's the other way around, titanium is known for being really ductile, it's why titanium guns tend to be smooth bore, because otherwise they'll become smooth bore over repeated use.

Also, fuck this Iron Man shit.


DOOM vs Librarian/GK.

Discuss.

>>53586997
If they aren't named, DOOM wins.

>>53587048
Even most of the named ones would die.

>>53586997

Doom in a battle of wills between a Ctan or a superduper Farseer.

>>53578086
No, ironman still has enhanced titanium or some other random ass metal. He does not have vibranium or adamantium as adamantium doesn't exist in the MCU and the only vibranium was in caps shield, vision, ultron prime, and maybe black panthers suit. Its been confirmed that the only sources are from wakanda and what they already had in caps shield.

>>53587088
Which Doom? Is it Dr. Doom or the Doomguy? I mean, in either case, I can't recall a time where either of their wills have faltered even a bit, much less failed, where as most farseers tend to have their wills succumb to one thing or another, eventually.

>>53586997
>DOOM vs Librarian/GK.
Again?