40k vs star wars

Depends on who's writing the story. Same as every other time this thread comes up. Please stop asking.

>>53569576
>Depends on who's writing the story
what hackneyed writing could have star wars tech do fucking ANYTHING?

in ANY era?

Star wars spaceships have better weapons because SW writers have no sense of scale or measurement.
Star wars land vehicles also have better weapons and armor, but because GW writers have no sense of scale or measurement.
The existence of wide-spread non-Warp FTL and psionics means finding a neutral ground between settings can't happen without bias towards or against a Jedi enslaver plague.
This thread is a pointless argument starter. If you're going to wank on a blue board at least post THICC memes.

>>53569576
Same time next week?

>>53569515
Dark Eldar would lose hard. The SW universe already had weird invaders from outside the galaxy that was a weird mix of DE, Tyranid, and Borg. So, the Eldar factions get fucked by themselves. Space marines without any outside imperial help? They would die by attrition even if they won every battle. But with the Imperium backing them up it's a wipe. Same goes for IG.

Tau aren't more advanced. Their FTL is shit even compared to SW stuff. If anything they'd be a race that would fit right in.

Tyranids is debatable as mentioned before when SW faced those outside the galaxy invaders. But sheer numbers may do the trick and their ferocity. Genestealer cults won't cut it, though.

Necrons probably win if they were all united and woken up. If not, again, you have a few dudes facing an entire galaxy and can't keep up the fight.

Chaos probably works well, but it won't be as strong since there are no primarchs or space marines in the SW universe to convert. It would be like if you kept chaos limited to normal humans in 40k and they had no demigod daemon primarchs and space marines to constantly fuel them. Chaos would be limited to SW races and tech. I could see them being a threat, but they need big shit to keep stirring the pot to make any headway beyond random cults.

>>53569642
Forgot Orks. The orks wouldn't control everything because they never unite. And Star Wars may have the ability to kill spores. SW has the slight advantage of not being a dystopian nightmare and can focus on cleaning them out unlike 40k. But I see it as an ebb and flow. Orks rise up out of control every so often, win fights and get bigger and smarter, and storm out from the fringes to raid and pillage before it all dies down and starts over.

>>53569515
It would be a very good demonstration of how wars are not won with thicker armor and bigger guns but with coordination and organization.

>>53569515
>IG: emperor class battleships, baneblades, and sheer numbers
The imperium takes decades to churn out individual battleships with the production power of entire forge worlds.
The empire shat out the death star two around an uncivilised moon in the space of a couple of years.

The empire has so many star destroyers you just don't know, man.

>Comparing a universe based completely on pulling twenty-plus-digit numbers out of your ass, and bullshitting for pages about how fuckhueg, immense, immeasurable, endless, infinite something is - from number of troops, to caliber of weapons, to size of ships - with anything else, and then being surprised / satisfied it won the comparison.
How do you autismo so hard?

>>53569515
Obviously not really, but Star Wars is very low tech compared to other settings. I mean, in SW a weapon capable of planetary annihilation is considered to be a massive and terrifying weapon, whereas in 40k it's just considered a last resort
So why not make this thread about settings that could take on 40k?

>>53570013

He asked about each faction individually. In which case only chaos, orks, tyranids, or necrons have half a chance. By themselves most of them get raped by SW. He didn't ask about the entire setting of 40k vs SW. Otherwise that'd be a very different answer.

>>53569515
Assuming the 40k galaxy popped up and boredered the star wars galaxy.

Sith, Hutts, Jedi, Empire, Republic etc... all the factions were totally allied and likewise all 40k races were unified. Who would win?

Also assume the warp is still dangerous for 40k psykers but jedi can use the force care free as usual

Which setting has better waifus?

>>53570484
I don't know, but SW has 10/10 husbandos.

>>53569515
Can starship grade heavy turbolasers kill imperium ships?

>>53569515
Depends on the fanbase.

>>53570259
In a straight up 40K vs. Starwars battle, 40K wins hands down. No real debate there. The only reason people think SW could win against OPs scenario is because its against individual factions - and even some of those could win against SW.

>>53569515
All these people talking about 40k vs star war who would win are missing the real question. Why would they gight? Both hatr aliens and jedi are pretty much psykers so both hate them. They should team up not fight

>>53571859
Nah, the GE profits too much from aliens and even allows them into their military forces. They'd not bow to the Glorious God Emperor either, the treacherous fucks.

Exterminatus now! Death to Coruscant!

>>53570013
nigga do you even Base Delta Zero, anything Destroyer-size or better can pull off the equivalent of an exterminatus in a matter of hours

>>53570541
Better question: Can ion cannons and proton torpedoes defeat void shields? Imperial (class) Star Destroyers are only comparable to smaller Imperium vessels, but the Galactic Empire has the advantage in naval warfare due to faster and more reliable FTL and manufacturing/supply lines.

Since I haven't seen/heard much about them, what does 40k have in the way of personal/ship-to-ship fighters? TIE fighters are basically what happens when you dump all of your stats into agility, but they're also basically the Astra Militarum in space: Ork vessels especially could find themselves swarmed under by craft agile enough to evade point defense systems (that aren't lascannons, which they get completely ruined by).

>>53569923
This.
These threads/ arguments are retarded and you should be ashamed of yourself if you take part in onw

The problem with any vs 40k thread is how slow 40k ships are in comparison to the contenders.

>>53572155
Microwaving the atmosphere for hours with your lazors vs...

Virusbombs (set and forget)
Phosphex (set and forget)
Macro cannon bombardment (enpight kinetic force to make the planet shit its self causing the volcanic equivalent of a nuclear winter)
Lance bombardment (the same, but with lazors boring holes past the Mantle)

Nova cannon (tzar bomba x10, once again, planet shits itself andall the fallout from the nova cannon)

Cyclonic torpedo's (how does crack planet?)

Now on to brass tacks, asside from the deathstar (s) and that one ship thats basically the deathstars big gun and some engines. What does the SW universe have that can crack planets?

Another note. SW vs 40k FTL travel. If 40k crossed over and was in the SW universe. How turbulent would the SW universe's sea of souls be? That's why warp travel is so unreliable in 40k, its like going out during a hurricane, tue navigator is relying on a fuckoff huge psychic bonfire to navigate with so they don't get turned around. Would a calmer sea make voyages safer? Could it compare to jqvi g the hyperspace lanes in SW... But everywhere? No need to plot around planets and systems?

>>53570013
Most planet killers in 40k just scour the surface.That's why Tomb Worlds and Tyranids can ignore exterminatus.The Death Star is closer to full power C'tan than anything currently in 40k,it doesn't just destroy planets,it throws their debris at 12000 km/s.

>>53569515
40k is horribly inconsistent, but using the upper range of conventional starship firepower (easily boiling oceans away), both universes are similarly matched. Star wars tech, despite its very utilitarian and mundane appearance, is canonically incredibly powerful compared to most mainstream scifi

if you're going to make outrageous claims like
>star wars tech doesnt work against void shields becuase they've never seen void shields
and similarly autistic complaints, fuck yourself

so with matched conventional presumably similar defenses in conventional warfare to the imperium, the empire's advantages include

>star wars
-infinitely more reliable FTL, FTL is generally faster, barring fluke warp shenanigans where things arrive before they left, star wars ships can cross the galaxy in a matter of days
-massive industrial capacity, actual research, understand how their tech works, can make new ships

given that the imperium with their psykers are routinely overcome by incompetent soccer hooligans, psykers dont seem like a huge advantage

empire would probably beat the imperium due to the massive logistical advantage
tau arent particularly better than the imperium at conventional warfare, and given their miniscule size, the empire would crush them through numbers alone
eldar, tech is superior, but the numbers once again put the empire at an advantage
tyranids, I can't see the empire winning this, though they did beat the vong which are somewhat similar in their massive numbers, organic tech, and terraforming predisposition
necrons, fluffwise, tech is too advanced, empire loses against any large necron threat
chaos: cant seem to root out the imperium, but given this is very warp based, its hard to compare, chaos presumably wins since nothing star wars is based around fighting psychic shit
orks: annihilated by the empire

>>53569515

And then The Star Republic from Strike Legion rolls up and Stomps the 40k universe back into place with it's multi-cultured furry armies and reality warping powers, and their drive by planet de-crusting power armor weapons..

>>53574176

And then The Culture smacks the Strike legion universe back into it's place because it's the fucking culture and.

Well the point is that 40k is not all that hot shit when it comes so sci-fi penis mesuring.

>>53570013
any star destroyer can turn an shielded planet into molten rock in a matter of hours, like an exterminatus

the death star was capable of breaching planetary shields and sending the planets mass into escape velocity. these planetary shields are so powerful that the one the rebels smuggled to hoth was capable of repelling the firepower of vader's entire fleet either indefinitely, or at least longer than vader was willing to wait

old EU shit had heavy turbolasers in the tens of gigatons of firepower range, capable of firing once every couple seconds perpetually, and extrapolations of asteroid vaporizatons in ESB put light turbolasers in the 100s of megatons per shot with similar rates of fire

>>53573040
>Star Destroyers are only comparable to smaller Imperium vessels

>size=power
why are so many 40k fans so stupid

>>53573731
I think that's the point in this whole thing...the Warp itself. If hyperspace travel tunnels through a sub dimension attached to the material plain then it can be argued that they travel in the warp. Then the SW galaxy part of the Warp seems to be very calm compared to the maelstrom that is the 40k warp. If the warp is calm, like it was before the fall of the first human empire, then travel would be fairly easy and the SW forces have no way of predicting where the enemy will emerge from the Warp

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>>53569515
Last time we had a nice big crossover battle thread there was a bit of discussion about the shrike vs various things. I wanted to go down the reasons for just why the shrike assstomps the setting.

>Hello, ladies, look at the Flash, now back to the Shrike, now back at the Flash, now back to the Shrike. Sadly, he isn’t the Shrike, but if he stopped being so slow and switched to making infinite copies of himself, he could approach his level of murder. Look down, back up, where are you? You’re on a planet halfway across the universe while the shike is cutting up the population of star systems into confetti with his goddamn shrike claws in the time it takes for you to blink. What’s in your hand?, back at me. I have it, it’s a nigh-indestructible forcefield made of time Look again, it can control time. Anything is possible when your man is the Shrike and not someone else. I’m on the Tree of Pain.

Shrike is one of the only things that can strait up beat some of the wankiest versions of flash fairly consistantly. It can summon up an arbitrary number of time clones, move up and down the timeline with ease and move at such absurd speeds that it appears as a flicker to a guy who can see the light around him as a stationary object, It may or may not be indestructible due to time shenanigans and it's body blades may be "infinity sharp"

>>53573950
Nova cannon
Cyclonic torpedo

Literally one post above you anon.

>>53574244
>lethality doesn't scale with scale

Why are SW fans this retarded?

>>53574231
>old EU shit

Fanfiction doesn't count. Or you OK with IOM having ready access to pre DAoT gear? Cause weapons that fire time reversing beams of energy so you can't evade a miniature black hole that was made by the same ship a minute earlier sounds pretty fucking frightening.