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We have new cards. Starting the thread with what I think it's the most impressive: A FUCKING THREE MANA WRATH (with a huge downside, but still).

Source is from Wizard itself. Not sure if this was a fuckup or not:

http://magic.wizards.com/fr/event-types/standard-showdown
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>>53554028
And indeed, Samut is the new Walker.
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>>53554039
Magnificent, it's even uglier than her first card.
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>>53554028
And here is the big dick dragon himself.

It's strong as fuck. Not viable for Standard I think, but Commander playes will be overjoyed.
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Dat boardwipe. Muh dicc
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>>53554056

That... that CANT be real...
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>>53554039
Is wizards purposely including the aesthetically challenged as part of a minority reach out now?
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>>53554092
Why not? It's powerful but unplayably expensive, as per the previous Bolas.
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>>53554056
>>53554092
PLEASE let it be real!
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>>53554056
Is grixis tron viable with this?
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>>53554092
7 mana and it doesn't win you the game on the spot. Honestly I'd be shocked if this saw play in our current aetherworks meta (outside of aetherworks obviously).
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>>53554039
Great, she's gonna join the gatewrath now is she...
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>>53554028
COOLDOWN CONFIRMED HOLY SHIT
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>>53554134
Holy shit I forgot about Aetherworks.

It seems the deck will not go away when Ulamog rotates now


And the rest, stop talking about Samut's uglines and focus on the wrath, dammit.

Is this gonna make Black/Something control viable and perhaps a little too powerful? I'm seeing a 3 mana-wrath into 5-mana wrath as a control strategy.

It seems to give Zombies quite the headache, as well as any other Aggro strategies.
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>>53554138
Oath of Samut

"For everyone else who was kangs, I'll keep watch"
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>>53554039
>Up to one target creature
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>>53554156
3 mana wrath where you can't rebuild on the next turn seems bad. There's a decent bit of graveyard recursion so it could slot into zombies, maybe, but I don't find it likely.
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>>53554181
It's so you can +1 on an empty board
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>>53554181
It's so you can gain loyalty when there are no creatures on the battlefield.
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>>53554039
>>53554056
The card number of the RG card is higher than the card number of the UBR card.

In Conflux, the card number of a RG card was lower than the card number of the UBR card.

Unless they have changed the color ordering for the purpose of numbering cards, it's fake.
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>>53554056
>It's strong as fuck
>Not viable for Standard I think

pick one
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>>53554184
As an aggro player, I can't think of anything more disastrous than getting wiped in the third turn. It's usually when you start to really amass your creatures for a lethal turn 4 or 5.

>>53554202
Why would there be fake cards on Wizard's french site?
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>>53554217
it's weak for standard but playable in longer running formats where games can reach the point where 7 mana is less than half of your manabase
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>>53554217
Reaching seven mana is hard on Standard which is usually a midrange format.

I did forget about Aetherworks Marvel though
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>>53554202
>The card number of the RG card is higher than the card number of the UBR card.

What? Multicolor cards are ordered alphabetically.
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This sure gonna rustle all of Wizards jimmies.
Maro gon' cry himself to sleep several nights in a row.
Serves them right for leftist ideology pandering.
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>>53554113
>unplayably expensive
Calling /edhg/!
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>>53554056
And they're probably making 2 Bolas, one for planeswalker decks too. Otherwise they're retarded.
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>>53554092
>>53554131
it was on the french version of the Wizards website

it's about as real as bigfoot TV shows
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>>53554219
>As an aggro player, I can't think of anything more disastrous than getting wiped in the third turn. It's usually when you start to really amass your creatures for a lethal turn 4 or 5.

I would give a shit if aggro was good in any format. But it's not.
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>>53554056
When did Wizards forget how to top-down design cards? There's nothing about this clusterfuck that says "Bolas" to me except it's grixis and does generic strong effects.
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>>53554191
>>53554196
This was a retarded mechanic since its inception.
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>>53554321
>What is Modern

Also RW Humans is a decent deck, 2 tix Red is not bad, and Zombies is technically Aggro no?
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>>53554345
maybe in france.
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>>53554328
>has the deal 7 damage from his previous pw card
>fucks with the opponent's hand like his creature card
>looks at the top of a player's deck like augur of bolas
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>>53554328
>Taking cards from your opponent
Bolas

>Hand Disruption
Bolas

>Hitting people for 7
Bolas

>Permanent removal
Bolas
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>>53554345
Zombies is solidly midrange.
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>>53554328
>>53554377
Don't forget, the 7 damage is a reference to Bolas being a 7/7 originally.
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>>53554328
Please design a top-down Bolas planeswalker card that isn't a copy of the previous Bolas planeswalker. Your complaint is a fucking ridiculous one.
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So cooldown guy was right all along?
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>>53554376
I'm not from france you dingus.

>>53554413
I suppose it's a bit muddy but I see your point, I guess.
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>>53554420
Why does he need another card?
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>>53554504
Because the model of MtG relies on new cards being made and it would be a hideous disappointment in the eyes of everyone if there wasn't a new card expressing Bolas in a different fashion?
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>>53554504
Because he's the star of the new block. But it doesn't matter if he needs a new card or not. The challenge is to make a Bolas planeswalker card that is top down.
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>>53554504
There's going to be another Bolas for the Archenemy set too.
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>>53554530
I wasn't disappointed by Yawgmoth not getting a card back in the day.
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>>53554504
Why haven't they just kept printing Alpha for the past twenty years?
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>>53554555
Nah, Archenemy has zero reprints.
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>>53554555
>Archenemy Bolas
Speaking of it
SPOILERS WHEN
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>>53554599
Read.
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>>53554420
You could start with giving him his signature touch of madness.
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>>53554599
Zero new cards* I mean. They're all reprints. I need to wake up a bit before posting.
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>>53554613
Planechase had zero new cards until it didn't.
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>>53554590
Because they're jews and there are other characters in the franchise other than Bolas? No character should have more than 2 cards at most.
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>>53554555
No there isn't. It's going to be old Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
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>>53554532
>Bolas planeswalker card that is top down.
Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
Nicol Bolas, God-Pharaoh
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I do think that the Bolas card should have been less generic Bolas and more "God-Pharoh", and interacted more with the set's themes.
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>>53554610
What do you think exiling cards from someone's hand is?
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>>53554133
No. You'd need to run too many filter rocks.
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>>53554715
You need one
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>>53554686
They also could have tried to make him at least Standard playable.
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>>53554573
they've been teasing bolas since gatewatch, people would be pissed if he didn't have a card in a set centered around him.

and you=/= the majority of fans
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>>53554420
Maybe quit while you're behind? It's probably a nice day outside, get away from the computer before you get mad bro.
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>>53554138
What if she's totally into being Bolas chosen?

>>53554686
I don't know, in a way Bolas was never what Amonkhet people thought he was. I think it's flavourful for him to remain exactly who he was, it kinda shows how the whole thing was just a project for him.
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>>53554039
Isn't Arlen Cord a 4 mana r/g walker with more interesting abilities in standard right now?
>>53554056
Exiling cards from everyone's hands and then exiling all their stuff! I'm glad I decided to make Bolas Edh.
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>>53554763
>What if she's totally into being Bolas chosen?
>Black character
>Loves being a slave

You know why that can't happen, anon.
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>>53554693
A far cry from "discard your hand"
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Wew lad. What a fuck up on Wizards part.

Samut get the Walker card...and its a GR walker. AGAIN. Ffs
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>>53554778
yes and see she like no play that samut is pure Kiora level trash 3$ walker
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>>53554328
that card is Bolas as hell, what are you talking about. It's Bolas with an exile theme. Take your opponent's creatures, destroy your opponent's stuff, blow up their hand, burn their stuff. That's pretty much all the major notes of Bolas' mechanical identity.
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Say marvel DOES pick up nicol bolas and he sees reasonable play, what price do y'all think New bolas will hit?
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>>53554818
5$ because neither of these things is gonna happen
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>>53554028
I'm a bit sad for Bontu...
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>>53554841
She's fine, she's indestructible
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>>53554839
It was a hypothetical, I'm aware he won't see play
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I have no idea how good that wrath is, which is really interesting. Probably it's good though. Obviously it's a powerful effect.

Samut seems like hot garbage and completely unplayable. Seriously, how much BS is that + ability?

Bolas is good, obviously, as a control finisher and is a reason to play UBR control. If you want to be playing that deck, you're probably going to want to play Bolas. But I'm not sure he's where you want to be in Marvel. He certainly has less board impact coming in than Ulamog does, and I think a lot of the time if you flip him with Marvel all you're getting is the 7 damage. Which isn't *bad* but
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>>53554056
Looks like solid 4 drop for standard, but Ulamog fills that spot better
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>>53554841
All she ever wanted was for senpai to notice her.
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>>53554966
>4 drop
But Bolas cost 7 and Ulam...
Oh. OH. That's clever
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>>53554966
regular fucking algonquin round table here
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>>53554789
Pound for pound, far better than that, though. What a shit spell.

Also, heard somewhere that Wizards has been losing money since OGW. I don't wanna say it's because of the shit stories they've been telling recently, but it seems like this recent standard has been unbearable.
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>>53554056
I get that it's a nod to past Bolases, but it still bothers me just a little that he has three abilities that exile and one that doesn't.
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>>53554056


BAN MARVEL
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>>53554610
>+2
Strips away the memory of the opponent before snatching one of their spells - or allies - and claiming it as his own.
>+1
Dismissively carves out the thoughts of his opponent without a thought.
>-4
He's a fucking dragon and breathes fire all over your balls, of course you're going to take 7 damage.
>-12
Literally the Hour of Devastation where everything is transformed into a clean slate.

I'm sorry if you expected his + abilities to be shit like "opponent discards his hand," "you gain control of target creature" and so on but even Nicol Bolas needs to be balanced.
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>>53554056
This is retarded.

At least Samut is kinda bad.
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>>53555118
Chain veil reprint when?
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>>53554113
>unplayably expensive
>7
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>>53555046
>heard somewhere that Wizards has been losing money since OGW.
I can't speak for Wizards, but my local shop is in the highest tier of Magic shops according to them (I dunno much about the ranking system, I barely play myself). This shop's Magic sales over the past 4 months were HALF of what they were over the same time period last year. Standard flat-out doesn't fire, 2 people will show up for drafts, etc. If not for Modern they wouldn't be keeping up with Wizard's criteria to maintain their status.
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>>53555118
This. He's a fine card as a finisher really, and nicely balanced.
He's about as potent as he needs to be. The flavor is all there too.
Let's also be real about that mindfuck touch of his, it's a relic of shitty old storytelling.

Yes the new storytelling has shittyness too but at least we're not forced to use Samut because she's too strong not to use.
I'm still holding out for decent story stuff around Bolas.
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>>53555238
If he was just 7, that would be one thing.

4UBR is another.
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>>53554028
So what does this imply storywise?
Bolas comes back to fuck shit up, the Gods rebel against him or are with him? I'm not sure
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>>53555240
The fact that I was actually able to play and finish a prerelease event concerns me. Usually, I have to leave at midnight, claim my zero packs, and hear about the sick wins my friends scored the day after.

I actually finished one. Player attendance was just that low.

I know a few people generally selling out of magic since they just didn't enjoy it, and me and my friend mostly just poke fun at the new shit now. I was on board for the cool aesthetics and story stuff, and since they see interesting settings pulling on obscure material as a mistake (Kamigawa's story was pretty much binned by MaRo with a 'What a travesty, guess we won't be doing anything like that again! Theros will be much more interesting and familiar to players overall!')...

Well, also considering that we've had the same 'revolution' storyline happening over and over again recently (if you count the B-plot in Gatecrash, and Theros), my heart just isn't into it.
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>>53554763
>what if she's totally into being Bolas chosen
You don't really believe that do you? That is some wishful thinking

Look at where the Jactice Orgy story is goin, along with the one per block thing...
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>>53555370
Seems most likely that Bolas returns because Samut's spark ignites, she says "Fuck off" and decides to fight Bolas. The Gatewatch pitches in with Samut vs. Bolas and the Gods.
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>>53555429
Bolas returns because the suns are aligning and he's supposed to return.
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>>53554715
If you use that land in combination with Oath of Nissa you could play a G/x tron deck. Oath of Nissa also makes it so you can't be colour screwed by a blood moon.

Assuming you drop all of trons creatures except maybe ulamogs, what combination of planeswalkers would you play with access to every colour in modern?

I'd try Something like
>2 New Bolas
>4 6 mana Elspeth
>4 Karn
>1 Card advantage Chandra of some kind
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>>53555445
Oh, I thought he just popped back in when the trial produced Planeswalkers, since it seems like he uses the trial to farm for walkers.
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>Oh look. Another set where the Gatewatch causes a rebellion/apocalyptic event on a new plane
Phyrexia can't return soon enough
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>>53555476
amen brother
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>>53555476
The Second Sun would have aligned itself with or without the Gatewatch
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>>53555445
because of mana reasons right? I guess its when the mana leylines align just right.

Would make sense that all the gods (especially the grixis color gods) side with Bolas, while Oketra and Rhonas might rebel
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>>53554039
We could have gotten a dog planeswalker. Or a minotaur planeswalker (outside of Weatherlight). Or a snake planeswalker. Instead we got KANGZ. And they already did this shit with a legendary creature having a latent spark and then igniting after a big event with Narset except Narset is an autistic waifu. This is just sad.
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>>53555473
My money is on wizards going full fedora, and having Bolas deliver a monologue on how it was just pure coincidence, their faith was meaningless and reflective of their pathetic mortal lives, and he has gotten what he wants, now he's gonna destroy the plane/dwarf-fortressesque planeswalker farming project because evil.

Some people might say that Bolas is smarter than that. I will counter that by saying that Bolas written by 2017 Wizards is not.

>>53555476
Honestly, I'd even go for them going back to a plane they freed from the shackles of tyranny, as the different factions of plucky rebels start to run each other down in order to get absolute dominance over the plane, now that the main monolithic, lawful, authority is gone and not stopping them from doing much of anything.
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>>53555476
We can only hope
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>>53554788
Because god forbid it would be interesting?

>the leader of the dissenters, their champion against the dark god that controls them, actually gets into his good graces and likes it
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>>53555476
Can't wait for the Gatewatch to go through their "Unexpected crippling defeat arc".
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>>53555577
Maro has hinted at that Liliana will betray the Gatewatch on his blog.
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>playing humans
>this thing happens
Well, I guess I need to go up to a playset of Heroic Interventions now. Fucking wraths.
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>>53555624
Good. Liliana is a cunt who should have died when Garruk wrung her neck out like a used towel.
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>>53555632
And you had no problem beating Flamecaller, Y-Expertise, Suns or Fumigate?
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>>53555687
By turn four I'm usually holding up stuff to defend my board. G/W humans is a screwy pile of managing defenses. A three mana wrath makes it even more confusing.

I like the drawback, though. It means that even though it might blow me out, I can also punish its use if I manage to resist it.
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So if that wrath gets countered, the opponent still gets to untap their lands huh? Makes it a bit of a 50/50 on whether or not you wanna counter it.
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>>53555687
Also I don't find that my opponents want to Sweltering Suns on turn three ever.
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>>53555476
Most likely scenario for Phyrexia right now:
>Phyrexia appears on Plane "X"
>The Gatewatch shows up and tries to fight them off
>Gatewatch gets horribly rekt
>Training montage across several blocks
>Gatewatch comes back and fights again
>Almost fail, but at the last second an ally arrives and saves the day forcing Phyrexia to withdraw with "FOR NOW" in big scary letters
>Oath of Karn
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>>53555773
Lets not
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>>53555773
>mfw colorless legendary enchantment
>mfw I have no face
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>>53555594
Isn't that the upcoming set?
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>>53555811
Ixalan?
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>>53555811
It's looking like another boring-ass HUMANS GUD GODS BAD FUCK THE AUTHORITIES block, so no.
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>>53555594
Everyone except Sorin is fucking boring

I can't wait for them to just die already
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>>53555795
Just calling it like I see it.
It's Superhero Comics 101, and that's exactly what the Jacetice League is playing up to.
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>>53555844
You forgot Vraska
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>>53555834
Except Bolas is coming back to wreck fucking everything, so unless you think the Gatewatch will be MtG's flagship villain, they're gonna be fucked.

And no, Phyrexia, even New Phyrexia isn't MtG's flagship villain.
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>>53555844
Sorin isn't part of the Gatewatch.
Sorin, Nahiri, and Ugin's old school Eldraziwatch make for a much more interesting group.
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>>53554039
>that -2

Jesus Christ that's bad
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>>53555852
whatever

the villains have always been the most compelling part of MtG

can we just wipe out everyone except Phyrexia, the Eldrazi, the Slivers and the Elder Dragons?
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>>53554039

Yuck.
Why does Wizards keep putting spoonfuls of sewage in our wine casks?
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>>53555864
Official list of walkers more interesting than the Gatewatch:
>Ajani
>Ashiok
>Arlinn
>Bolas
>Tamiyo
>Vraska
>Elspeth
>Dovin
>Koth
>Sorin
>Nahiri
>Ugin
>Domri
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>>53555917
No anon, poo-in-loo was last block.
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>>53554056
Who the fuck thought this would be fun to play against?
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>>53555923
Ajani is Gatewatch now.
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>>53555889
>the villains have always been the most compelling part of MtG
What we need is another villain in the lead. Another Urza.
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>>53555923
>Elspth
>Ashiok
>Ajani
>Tamiyo
>Koth
wrong
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>>53555964
Ashiok yes
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A bit off topic but where do I get into magic lore? Just start reading the stories from the current set?
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>>53555962
Yeah but not a boring one like Liliana.
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>>53555476
I fucking hope Amonkhet is destroyed, and I say that as somebody who love egyptian mythology, but Amonkhet feel that they put an egyptian varnish on the plane they actually wanted to do.
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>>53555962
That only worked because it was Villain protagonist Vs. Unstoppable force.
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>>53555991
That's about it
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>>53554039
Written like a man, drawn like a man, hero of the day and yet this bitch still wont be happy.
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>>53555991
desu you're better off reading older stuff from the 90s and 2000s
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>>53556008
Now we got dickhead protags vs kinda scary but definitely not unstoppable antagonists.
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>>53556011
>the elephant in the room
is this how they refer to her?
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>>53554113
>all kinds of shit getting rotated soon
>pay 7 and -4 when you drop him to do 7 face damage and end the game, or kill almost any threat on the board
>not playable

Mark my words once september comes and the sets rotate CONTROL IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS
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>>53555855
>And no, Phyrexia, even New Phyrexia isn't MtG's flagship villain.

http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/58550709214/since-the-eldrazi-and-phyrexians-are-now-magics

Bolas, Phyrexia, and the Eldrazi are all major enemy factions, but I don't think they want to bother with a "flagship" villain in that sense. Even sealing Emrakul in the moon isn't being treated like the last we'll see of the Eldrazi.
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>>53556034
Worse. We have invincible moralfag protagonists + ex-villain who learns the power of friendship Vs. Villain of the week.
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>>53556088
>invincible moralfag protagonists + ex-villain who learns the power of friendship
yeah, dickheads
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>tfw Vronos literally never
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>>53555937
It's like you haven't played vs U/x ever

wizards doesn't care about your opponent just whatever people like to play, if you don't like a card then you're not the type of player it's meant for.
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>>53554039
The only Kang walker I have ever cared about is Koth. I'm not about to start caring for this bitch.
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>>53555923
is ashiok still alive?
actually, I don't remember what happened with nahiri last block
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>>53556190
Nahiri put Sorin in a wall and planeswalked off into the sunset.

Ashiok is (probably) fine. Ended up in the Dack stuff, if I remember.
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>The only black-skinned character in the golden age of MTG was teferi, who was designed as a blue time mage and no one really gave a shit about his skin color because he was a cool character.
>All the modern black walkers so far have been red, violent, and irrational
>Outside of Sarkhan, who was retconned into being asian, the only other asian plainswalker is super smart and good at math.

Hmm....
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>>53555923
>no daretti
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>>53556239
Sarkhan was never a nigger.
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>>53556239
Agrus Kos.
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>>53555476
And what do you think is going to happen then?
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>>53555844
>the only planeswalker with defender
>interesting
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>>53556287
Kos isn't a planeswalker.

Kos is also a terrible example because his whole schtick is he only knows how to be a violent cop and he literally works himself to death until he dies while being a violent cop.
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>>53556239
>All the modern black walkers so far have been red, violent, and irrational
Technically not "Modern", but Kaya?

>the only other asian plainswalker is super smart and good at math.
Narset or Tamiyo?
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>>53556306
In fairness, you said character. And no, he's not violent. I'll concede that he works himself to death, but his primary character trait isn't violence.
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>>53556239
Sarkhan was always chinky retard. He wasn't retconned into being asian.
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>>53555657
>Hating best walker
Can you imagine having taste this shit?
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>>53554056
Thanks wizards , my 5 colour planeswalker edh deck just didnt have enough doubling season combos.
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>>53555594
>Gatewatch are perplexed by an enemy they can't just channel/fireball to death
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>>53555991

Here's the archive.

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/columns/magic-story

Dive in and read whatever you please. It all varies as much as Forgotten Realms.

If you can track them down, some of the older novels are pretty good. Like the Ravnica cycle, Test of Metal, Brother's War, and Kamigawa. Don't touch anything by Wintermute -Quest for Karn, Teeth of Akoum-.

Older fans enjoy the 90's stuff and die on that hill trying to stay there. I got into this game reading the books, and there have been a lot worse reads than the Gatewatch focused stories we've been getting these days. Pick your spots.
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>>53554039

Did they really have to out do the ugly on the first Samut? Was it a challenge?

"Okay, remember that screaming black woman character? Paint her again, but make her uglier. Like she's really got to take a shit but is too mad to do it."
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>>53554039
Angry Black Woman: the card
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>>53556315

Tamiyo is a rabbit.
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>>53554039

>We Wuz Walkaz an shit!

And it's so fucking bad too, holy shit.
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>>53556239
>The only black-skinned character in the golden age of MTG was Teferi,
Stop reading here.
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>>53556170
I play U/R, and this is not a control card. Emrakul's mind slaver effect was neat until marvel started casting it every fucking game. Marvel is going to run this along with a few swamps in place of temple of the false gods and people are going to be absolutely sick of bolas by the time marvel rotates out.
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>>53556411
Yes, but she's a nipnong rabbit. And she's arguably a bigger asian stereotype than literal autism posterchild Narset.
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>>53556411
Tamiyo is the daughter of moonman
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>>53554056

At least it can't go in Atraxa superfriends
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So, what was Tez building the Planar gate for?
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>>53556445
again, if you don't like it it's not meant for you.
Wizards makes cards for each player type and due to the dichonomy of counterplay some cards will be hated by players with certain playstyles.
just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's bad. Case and point with how they left the saheeli infinite untouched.
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>>53556473
Most likely answer?
So Bolas could march an army to take over other planes.
The least unlikely but most fun answer?
To pull Gix out of the blind eternities.
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>>53556522
Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or if you just drank the kool-aid.
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>>53556444
I think they meant to say "walker".
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>>53555542
>We
>could
>have
>gotten
>a
>dog
>planeswalker
this is what pisses me off the most. Hazoret is probably gonna die to save Gideon or some bullshit, I WANT A jACKAL WAIFU THAT I AM CERTAIN WILL NOT DIE
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>>53556522
>they left the saheeli infinite untouched
You're just trolling at this point.
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>>53556554
Furshit go, and stay go.
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>>53556473
Bolas still has some plan for New Phyrexia. Phyrexia can't have actual walkers, so planar portals are their bread and butter.
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>>53556055
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>>53554788
eh, the story for Amonkhet already is "whitey comes to save the poor ignorant colored folk from themselves" might as well go all the way
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>>53556595
>New Phyrexia attacks Kaladesh
>Using a new planar gate
>Gatewatch eventually destroy it again.
>Everyone thinks they stopped the invasion
>Suddenly they throw everything out the window and they planar overlay onto Kaladesh
>yfw
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>>53556644
Planar Overlay is probably impossible now considering that no one is anywhere near the power yawgmoth had and he barely could do it. If it were to happen I'd rather see it happen to theros
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>>53555993
At least Liliana has pic related
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>>53556672
She has an artifact created by Mishra?
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>>53556691
Mishra has pretty good taste
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>>53556691
Tits. She has tits. "A rack." That's what he's saying.
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>>53556691
she has boobies
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>>53556644
What I'm waiting for is the reveal where the Gatewatch infiltrates Phyrexia's planar portal machine and finds Venser's corpse compleated and strung up as the engine.
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>>53555923
Ajani is Gatewatch though.
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>>53556644
the overlay only worked because of how rath and dominaria were related to one another

though I doubt anyone at wizard's remembers that
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>>53556381
why is wintermute bad? I hear a lot of bad things about them
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>>53555240
>2 people will show up for drafts

Holy shit this. My store canceled all its modern masters 2017 drafts because no one wanted to play. We couldn't even get a half game going FIVE people showed up release weekend.

Prerelease was down as well. The store is almost ALWAYS packed to the point we have to skew tables to shove more tables in. Amonket was so low we had three whole empty tables.
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>>53554138
thats just the kind of crap that would make me stop buying anything but singles man
fix your damn story wizards
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>>53556760
>Quest for Karn
a fucking snoozefest
>Teeth of Akoum
braindead retard and smug vampire walk around
braindead retard suspects a vampire is nearby
smug vampire reveals he is a vampire
"that's it imma do the thing"
"don't do the thing"
"i don't trust you"
"i'm serious if you do the thing the stuff will attack"
"if I do the thing the stuff will go away"
"last chance don't do the thing"
she does the thing
"oh well shit's fucked byyyeeee"
"fuck I shouldn't have done the thing"
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>>53555964
>>Tamiyo
>wrong
wrong
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>>53555800
>>mfw colorless legendary enchantment

Bro you know it will be a
>colorless legendary artifact enchantment
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>>53556545
>To pull Gix out of the blind eternities.
I'd take back everything I've said about wizards if they did this.
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>>53556718
>>53556721
Listen we've all seen the aka6 images, but that doesn't automatically make her appealing.
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>>53556984
Doesn't seem reasonable, phyrexia always invaded other worlds through portals, tezzerret wasn't able to build a planar portal himself but found out that someone on kaladesh was able to build it, 1+1 he was looking for it to make new phyrexia travel across planes, even if that one was destroyed I would be he now knows how to make it so we'll heard news of them maybe next year or 2.
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>>53554789
Worst flavor text in the game, a true classic
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>>53555624
So samut will be the new black gatewatch character
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>>53557009
I gotta find me some images apparently
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>>53557038
I really like it
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>>53556545
does Tezz even know of Gix's existence? not familiar with teh lore too much
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>>53555624
>some guy from r&d releasing spoilers for the story
fire this cunt
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>>53557009
Tiddies are a perfectly good substitute for personality.
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>>53557038
That's some truly patheitc taste
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>>53557080
>>53557080
Probably not. It would be a cool little side effect though.

>Tez finally opens a planar gate despite the Gatewatch's best efforts
>Suddenly a man, or what has the figure of a man, appears from the gate
>Tez has no idea what is happening
>The man proceeds to kill tez with ease and even takes one of the gatewatch out as well.
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>>53557131
>Some Phyrexian flunky
>Able to kill two walkers

Fuck off Phyrexiafag
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>>53557158
>Gix
>Some Phyrexian flunky
Are you high?
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>>53554056
>aetherworks marvel plus that +2 sort-of cascade
oh god
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>>53557158
>Gix
>The Praetor to Yawgmoth
>The second in command of Old Phyrexia
>The one who almost single handedly killed Urza
>Who would be unaffected by the Mending
>Some Flunky unable to kill two neo walkers
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>>53557158

Literally commit suicide you underaged faggot
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>>53554133
I remember a tron list that used walkers (including non colorless ones) to close out the game shortly after the Eye of Ugin ban. It used Oath of Nissa to fix mana for the colored walkers. To cast oath of nissa, you are probably using a colored land which means the difference between 7 and 8 mana for colored walkers isn't that big. As such, I think the old Nicol Bolas would be better in such a list.
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>>53554056
UBRG MARVEL BOYS
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>>53557158
>had Mishra as his pocket boypussy
>flunky
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>>53555844
Don't you start shit about Ajani and Tamiyo
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>>53554028
It's okay. That drawback is a huge turnoff for me.

>>53554039
We're still getting a third PW and it will be a character we haven't seen yet. Hold onto your hopes, my dudes.

>>53554056
HIS RETURN HAS BEEN WORTH THE GODDAMN WAIT
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>>53557278
>implying Mishra wouldn't volunteer anyway
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>>53557009
Lilikins is best girl, even the dead want to grab her tits, just look at that hand. In fact, it makes me wonder if she can even do any necromancy at all. The dead are just rising for the chance to cup a feel.
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>>53557298
>We're still getting a third PW
No, we aren't.
They directly stated multiple times that the standard per block is 5, not 6; and that there would only be 2 in Hour. We only had 6 a lot recently because they were pushing the Gatewatch down our throats even when everyone hates them.
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>>53554321
just Gideon them on turn 4 and they untap with nothing to fight back and kill them

duh
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>>53554943
Bolas is only going to be used in standard after Ulamog rotates out of marvel. There's no way that control will play this over U hulk, and even if it did, control won't ever be tier 1 in the same format as marvel.
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>>53554345
Red White Humans, you say?
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>>53554028
Does anyone think the downside on this card is actually worth it?
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>>53557546
Only against hyper aggro decks that vomit out their hands. It's a pressure valve card against a deck that doesn't exist in standard.
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>>53556011
>tfw this fat fuck killed off one of my favorite legends
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>>53555923
>forgetting about /ourboy/ who will was going to make magic great again until the bad PR incident
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>>53556011
>Just add color
Its a fucking fantasy setting, which means she could make her own if she had any creativity at all.
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>>53557703
>witch does evil thing to hunter
>hunter trying to exact revenge is wrong
I've never understood this controversy.
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>>53557546
Standard? No. Modern? Probably not. Commander? Yes.
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>>53557738
Because people claim it looks like rape.
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>>53555923
>Ashiok

I miss when they'd insert random weirdos from mystery planes into sets. Now every walker you meet is from the plane of the set
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>>53557703
>Forgetting reverse magic jesus, Vronos.
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>>53554056
The plus 2 ability is not written correctly.
Its a nightveil specter/ mirko effect

Why does it say cards than you can cast card..

Its fake af
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>>53557440
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>>53557738
Big stronk whitey choking out a bitch he's got pinned to a rock doesn't go well for pr.
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>>53557781
>The plus 2 ability is not written correctly.

Either you're illiterate or know nothing about magic. Either way, leave.
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>>53555844

Sorin is the most retarded and boring of all planeswalkers
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>>53557793
She's not even being choked. He just has his hand there to keep her still. She's not even helpless in the image, she's winding up a spell to fight him. This whole fucking controversy was so fucking dumb.
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>>53557758
people are fucking dumb
the sooner people stop listening to people the better
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>>53557782
That's Samut.
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>>53557782
I think this may have just been a dumb and poorly worded way of referring to Samut. Because we technically HAVE met her but he was probably just being a dick and saying we haven't met them AS a walker yet
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>>53557897
He did actually clarify that in a later post. Tumblr has known it would be samut for a few weeks now.
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>>53557925
we all knew because the story told us Samut would be a walker just like it did with Narset
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>>53557893
>>53557897
>>53557925
I don't think I've ever actually hated Maro until now. Fuck that little high-pitched dickweasel.
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>>53557971
the "blame MaRo" meme is my favorite
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>>53557961
>bitch from an ethnic plane who knows that the "truth" and history of her people are lies turns out to be a walker
I'm sensing a pattern
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>>53557738
>>53557883
It's his positioning.

Specifically, the fact that he has a leg between her thighs, forcing her into a spread and vulnerable position that might indicate sexual aggression and allowing the aggressor easy action to the female body.

If his pose was changed so he was looming over her with a leg on either side, you'd probably see a third of complaints about it looking "rapey" disappear.
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>>53558023
He's the one who fucking said it! It's not my fault he didn't word that shit properly.
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>>53557038
That's not just about any card picturing Jace.
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>>53557703
The only crime this piece of art is guilty of is bring fuck ugly digital imaging.
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>>53557038
>the symbol of her church
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>>53557770
>reverse
How so?
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>We could have gotten Neheb as a planes walker
>instead we get a criminal
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>>53558058
>If his pose was changed so he was looming over her with a leg on either side, you'd probably see a third of complaints about it looking "rapey" disappear.
kek
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>>53557158
That "flunky" was able to contend with Old Walkers. Neo Walkers are just glorified mages who live longer than usual. He could smear the whole Gatewatch fairly easily if they don't run away.
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>>53554056
>ult needs 12 loyalty
>4 dark intimations will only bring him up to 11
FUCKING WHY!?!
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>>53558122
His legs, not hers.
Besides, Liliana is for mouthsex. I wouldn't go anywhere near that stank.
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>>53558136
this, what's even the point of Dark Intimations?

I will find the person responsible for this
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>>53557781
It's worded completely corectly. See Stolen Goods.

It is not a Nightveil / Mirko effect, and those two say play because they do not specify nonland, and lands are played and not cast, and they allow you to play your opponent's lands that they exile.
NewBolas specifies nonland, so it can say cast instead of play, just as in Stolen Goods.
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>>53558058
No, people will always find something to bitch about.
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>>53558138
Oh you're being serious? You think Garruk literally hunched over a prone woman would be less rapey?
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>>53558208
What about my post made you think I was being serious? I don't speak SJW.
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oh boy its another "gatewatch leads a spunky PoC rebellion against the oppressive patriarchy" set
what a surprise

you know as awful as nuPhyrexia is i'd almost welcome its return if it meant we could finally kill some of these bratty planeswalking x-men
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>>53558208
Hunching over a woman threateningly is a little less rapey and forcing yourself between a woman's legs.
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>>53558275
t. virgin
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>>53558255
I still expect bolas to wreck everyone's shit and wipe the plane off.
>>
KFCwalker
GrapeSodawalker
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>>53558307
Projecting much?
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>>53557925
GODDAMN YOU MARK ROSEWATER
YOUR BLOOD SHALL SLAKE MY FURY
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>>53558325
No.
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>>53558311
optimists like you are the only reason anyone bothers to follow the lore

well that and retarded waifufags
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>>53557051
Between her and Chandra we will have two rebel women as MC's. Fuck everything!
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Think they might make Gideon white again, now that they have a diversity planeswalker?
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>>53558353
Three, don't forget Lilliana. Just because she's "mmm sexy slinky femme fatale" doesn't mean she's not 100% generic plays by her own rules archetype. Every nuWalker is an utter exercise in blandness.
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>>53557627
strike against the patriarchy
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>>53558388
Probably not. Old man river gideon is long dead
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>>53558388
Greeks aren't white so don't count on it.
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>>53558477
stay mad, nordics
>>
How the fuck so you make an even uglier Samut?
>>
Why are we paying for this shit anyways? We get fucked in the cards, we get fucked in the story, we get fucked with lore, we just get fucked like little boys in Thailand. Why do we do this to ourselves.
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>>53554028
>wanted only to be first
That's good flavortext that showcases black's ambitious natu-
>among subjects
Boo, boo I say!
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>>53558542
Because we're attached to the underlying foundation of the game, which even MaRo hasn't QUITE ruined just yet.
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>>53558542
>not playing exclusively on cockatrice/other free online emulators
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>>53558542
>Why are we paying for this shit anyways?
Talk for yourself.
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>>53554056
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>>53558542
>paying
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>>53558542
yeah man I stopped paying for cards after the whole masterpieces thing came out
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>>53558542
I buy singles exclusively.
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>>53558564
Ambition only gets you so far when the guy above you is almost a God.
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>>53558992
Yup. There is always a greater power.
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>>53556381
Ice Age cycle.
I feel like no one mentions it. Am I alone in thinking it's one of the best cycles?
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>They actually made a Samut card
>They skipped over Nakht, the interesting aven character that fans actually liked
>yfw Nakht apperas in another set
>yfw it's only because Samut is in the set as well

MaRo:
"See, we heard the fans really liked Nakht.
So Bill Rose one day came up to me, along with Aaron Forescythe,
and asked if I thought Nakht could fit in the next set.
So I thought HMM what would be the best way to get him in the set?
Well WHO do we have that might have something to do with that?
And that's when I called up Richard Garfield,
then hung up as he was about to answer like I
normally do, and it hit me.
SAMUT! Samut's our guy -our one to get back Nakht.
So we put Samut in the file and handed it off to development,
and then decided to let creative know about the change."
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>>53556444
I always thought she was like Middle Eastern in skin tone. It's been so long though, maybe I'm wrong.
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>>53554039
Arlin and Domri are both better and original Sarkhan makes both look like intro pack walkers.
At least I won't have to look at that face for the sake of the text box, it's 100% shit.
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>>53559267
She's pretty dark on her vanguard art.
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>>53554028
>Only Bontu was worthy.
How mad will SJWs be when a croc gets more feels out of people than their fucking KANGZ "protag"?
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>>53559265
>(((Rosewater)))
hmm a coincidence?
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>>53559265
This is the same thing as why Geralf didn't get a card in Innistrad 1.0. The majority of flavor text and lore characters don't get set up until past the point where the characters could be worked into the set as a card.

Nakht likely wasn't a concept until well past the point where mechanical parts of the set were finished.
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>>53559342
seeing the current state of the world im actually pretty surprised the black lady in the setting isnt the all powerful protag that saves everyone and is worshiped thusly
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>>53559267
Depends on the art, but it tends towards darker.
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>>53559458
>>53559337
Oh, yeah, she's definitely black. My bad.
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>>53559414
Who said she won't be?
Bolas can't win, he'll wipe the floor with the jacetice league for "narrative purposes" but the niggress will still ruin his plan whatever it is and MaRo/Trick Jarett will tell us how upset they are that we didn't appreciate her enough when we're thigh high on feels croc memes instead.
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>>53559502
fuck
ur right
is the samut hate a 4chan thing or do sensible people outside of this shitshow hate her too?
only friends I have either dont play magic or shitpost on 4chan
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>>53554039
I knew it was gonna be Samut but Goddamn it, i was hoping Djeru was gonna be the one who had the spark. He deserved it after all the shit they've put him through
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>>53559565
>deserved
woah there racist, that sounds an awful lot like meritocracy.
Its time of a black female planeswalker
its her turn
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>>53554427
>>53554141

Now we just need real cards that use the tap pool.
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>>53559601
Djeru's black to. Take your (you)
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>>53559601
We just got another niggress last year, black (((males))) need to be represented too =^).
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>>53559558
Reddit seems to mostly hate her card, they aren't offering any opinions about her as a character except for one guy who called it predictable.
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>>53559565
I wanted Nakht
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>>53559636
>black (((males)))
are you implying theres a nigkike walker
dear god
think of the children!
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>>53554342
How so?
>>
>oath of kangs
>2BR

>when oat of kangs enters the battlefield creatures you control get +2/+0 and gains double strike and deathtouch until end of turn
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>>53555844

Mi'lady Elspeth would like to have a word with you, Dack Fayden is silently laughing, and the old Nicol bolas is planning your humiliation for 20 years down the road.
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>>53559265
This is eerie in how much it sounds like him
>>
Its times like these when I'm glad I only really play commander. very few cards are too expensive to cast in commander.
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>>53556226
>Search your library for a card, reveal it, and then shuffle your library
Okay, that one got me good.
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>>53559757
>yfw chad fayden steals elspeth's virginity and cucks gideon & catman.
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>>53554039
her let is better than nahiri's
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>>53560042
*ult
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>>53558388

That card.
I was the first person in my group to get a gideon and that was the one I got. Dropping him usually meant I was gonna win. I thought gideon was the fucking coolest.

Then I read all the episodes on the Magic site.

It's not fair
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>>53560042
In most cases, but the fact that Nahiri's gives haste is pretty important. A hasty Emrakul or Blightsteel fucking hurts.
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>>53560173
At least it wasn't a Nissa or, god forbid, Chandra. They're just so annoying.
>>
>>53558542

I buy my cards from crackheads, so no, I'm not supporting Wizards but I still get my booster crack fix
>>
>>53560017

All the better. Smart warriors are always better than double warriors.
>>
>>53556062

>pay 7 mana

>not 6 Energy
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>>53556644
I honestly hope that Kaladesh and Phyrexia have nothing to do with one another ever.
It'd be nice to have an artifact plane that doesn't end up slathered in glistening oil.
>>
>>53559458
>>53559337
Sisay more like SASSY
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>>53558311
>We'll never have bolas buttfucking them
>Then they go to the blind eternities get GIX'd
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>>53558388
Gideon race is nordic-med (flip coin) and his age is d20+30.
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>>53559647
Well yeah, that's because he had an actual personality, despite being dead for most the story.
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>>53561203
But Samut has a personality! Nothing is quite as non-generic as an angry ugly bossy black woman
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>>53555923
Where is Tibalt?
>>
>>53557480
>>53554345
No seriously does such a deck exist in modern?
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>>53554328
+2: Better Mindclaw Shaman.
+1: Callback to original Elder Dragon.
-4: Deem Worthy.
-12: Not even sure this should go in Grixis. I mean, exiling enchantments? It's very Bolas to steal effects that your part of the color pie doesn't have access to - just because you're the certified BBEG.
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>>53561866
the -12 is because bolas is probably the more powerful being in the universe right now, so he can BTFO everything, it surprises me it doesn't also exile lands though.
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>>53562033
They just don't do mass land destruction at all anymore. Or any land destruction that isn't 4 mana or more single target monored. Even things that fuck up permanents specify nonland.
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>>53562033
>Mark rose water "Players don't really like land destruction or mass land destruction in general so were just going to never print any more ever again despite it being reds best way to control the board in any meaningful way."
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>>53554818

Bolas is probably sub ten bucks. Control and EDH might want him, but he's not a 4-of anywhere.
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>>53556190
Nahiri was mortally wounded, but planeswalked away. Probably put herself in stasis to heal.
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>>53562829
I see him as big in EDH, but not for much else outside of some obscure control deck in Modern that does nothing.
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