Why do d8s have a line to distinguish the six? Also, dice thread.

>>53552803
For retards like you OP.

>>53552803

6 9
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>>53552803
You would be surprised by the number of people who roll a 9 on a d8.

Because the same piece of machinery is used to imprint all types of dice and no one wants to make a special template

Same reason drive up shit has brail

>>53552817
Thanks for the actual answer.

>>53552803
Easier to read.
Avoids the "9! oh wait its 6" effect
and some of us don't use dice every day

>>53552810
>9
>d8
Your wizard powers have gone unchecked for too long.

Standardization and clarity.

>>53553091
how retarded can you be

I've bought my dice on Aliexpress, a Chinese bizarro Amazon.com basically.

They're... alright... I guess...

>>53553117
I sometime have trouble with additions.
Law school will do that to a man

>>53553142
Aliexpress is pretty good for cheap stuff that you don't need quality.
I have a yuge pack of d6 I bought from them.

>>53553117
There are systems that use more than one kind of dice.
Of course, you being a pretentious bitter cocksucker don't know about them, cause you spend your weekends alone posting in 4chan about crap that never happened but in your head.

>>53553446

>Of course, you being a pretentious bitter cocksucker don't know about them, cause you spend your weekends alone posting in 4chan about crap that never happened but in your head

Holy fuck, how mad are you right now? :)

>>53552803
None of my d8s do this.

>>53552803
Never underestimate human stupidity.
D10 a best, fight me faggots

>>53552817
But D6 doesn't have the line.

>>53553652
Some d6 do have the line. I have one

>>53553652
I have two right next to me, different molds, with the sixes having lines under them. Mass production, my friend, leads to interesting things.

>TIMELESS CLASSIC TIER
D6. It was there for you all along.

>GOD TIER
D20
D12

>HIGH TIER
D8

>MID TIER
D4

>SHIT TIER
D10

>WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING TIER
Dice with over 20 sides

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>>53553854
>not playing with golfballs

Tell me, what does the 00 mean on the d10 tens place?

>>53553929
It means no tens/zero digits if you're rolling a percentage, I guess. Like, if you roll 00 and a 9, that's 09. If you roll a 9 and then 00, that'a 90.

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>>53553854
forgetting about someone?

>>53553652
Some of them do.
Of the d6s I have that are numbered rather than pipped, at least half have underlined 6s.

>>53553985
For a reason, too.

>>53553854
>hating on d10
Scrub.

>>53553854
>d10 shit tier
>never uses dice with more than 20 sides
how the fuck are you supposed to roll percentile then?

>>53554009
Percentile rolls are by extension shit

>>53553967
>rolling 0 and 00

>>53554021
That would be a

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>>53553985
Inferior.

>>53554072
>there's more weight on the 1 side

I'm doing a teach-abroad thing right now, and I actively use dice in my lessons, especially D6'es.

You would not believe how many kids roll a D6, even in middle school, and ask "Is that a 9"

I imagine there are a lot of people who don't grow out of that.

>>53554114
That's true for standard dice (that use divots) as well, but can be mitigated by altering the depth of the cut on the three and two sides, which might be the case with the example I posted.

>>53552803

To distinguish them from the 9s
>but le d8s le don't have le 9s on them!!
The d10s, 12s, and 20s do, and most d8s are sold as part of an RPG dice set with consistent formatting across the faces on all dice.

>>53552810
thread should have ended here.

>>53554179
They aren't going to do that. They tumble dices so the corner are rounded, and they don't care that one side may be a little larger than another. These aren't casino instruments.

>>53552803
So that you know which is the 6 and which is the 9 on dice that do have a 9. Otherwise how would you tell which is which?

>>53554161
>You would not believe how many kids roll a D6, even in middle school, and ask "Is that a 9"

I'd absolutely believe it because I'm also a teacher.

Like Carlin said, 'Kids are just like any other group of people: a few winners, a whole lot of losers!'

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>>53553854
d8 is god tier you fucking pleb

d12 a shit

>>53553854
>d20
>god tier

Shit taste boy

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They should just put dots on them all.

>>53554355
Nah. Lots of groups have that one guy that would double play time just trying to count his rolls.

>>53554355
That eight triggers my autism fierce

>>53553574
No one wants to fight you because you are right

>>53553854
>d20 god tier
Rod_in_water.b8

>>53553854
I don't like d20, it takes forever to stop and rolls off table easily. D6 is the true master race, easy to acquire and rolling a handful of them is an objectively pleasing sensation.

>>53554018
t. D&D pleb

>>53554520
>needing to state the painfully obvious
C'mon, man, you're better than that.

>Ultra god tier
d6
>god tier
d20
d12
d10

>doesn't feel nice to roll tier
d8
d4
d100

>>53554355
>dots
>10 dots
>12 dots
>20 dots
>30 dots
>100 dots

sounds like a bad idea

>>53554786
Fuck you I'm commissioning dotted rpg dice

Also
>30

>>53554772
d8s feel just fine to roll.
...I think you're racist.

>dem autists that get triggered by D&D
1: You know it's not only D&D that uses d20 right?
2: You will never changer the fact that D&D is going to be the standard RPG system, ever, so geting mad at it won't do any good

>>53554822
I am racist
also d8s are shit

>>53553967
What if you roll an 80 and 10?

>>53552803
European D8s don't have that line

>>53554892
800, DUH

Some mass production as addressed already, but potentially also because its useful. Even if people know they're rolling a d8, they're going to see and react to the number symbols first. Humans see things and react way before we think about shit.

>>53554904
That's cause europeans spell 6 differently

>>53554892
How do you roll a 80 on 10-sided die?

>>53554953
we call it "le six"

Because my players, all of whom have been gaming for at least 5 years and most of whom have been gaming for much longer, still can't tell dice apart by sight. One of their more common mistakes is to mix up the d8 and d10. So without the bar under the 6 they could easily pick up a d8, think it to be a d10, and decide that they just rolled a 9.

>>53554953
You mean "correctly"?

>>53555095
Are they literally retarded? The dice look like nothing alike.

>>53555100
Nah, the americas are newer, so their rules trump the old.

>>53555140
I think a couple of them might be, yes.

>>53555026
How do you roll a 00 on a 10 sided die?

>>53555146
White House rules don't count.

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>>53555151
>>53555140
To exacerbate the problem, one of them uses those stupid cylindrical dice. Those all look the same, even the d4.

>>53555170
>playing with outdated rules

>>53552803
Why are you buying dice that aren't from Gamescience

>>53555201
You mean "official" rules?

>>53555278
Sure, I forgot we live in the 1600s

>>53554953
Yep, we say Six, Americans say Sioux, because that's the remaining members or that tribe left.

>>53555337
>mfw the americans call rumbly-tumbly-bumbly-decahedrons "dice"

>>53555310
>Americans think British English has remained unchanged since the 1600s

Top drawer, my good man, top drawer.

d2 > d6 > d10 > d8 > d12 > d20

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>>53554355
gr8 idea m8 :::;)

>>53555095
>Because my players, all of whom have been gaming for at least 5 years and most of whom have been gaming for much longer, still can't tell dice apart by sight.
Pretty much this.

I'm hanging out with a group that has supposedly been playing D&D for years. And yet I have one player who needs to be reminded that checks use a d20 roll, and only two other people can distinguish d10s from d8s.

Murrica, y'all.

>>53557015
That is objectively backwards

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>>53557511
>objectively

>>53557592
D-dad, i-is that you?

>>53554348
I use 12-sided d4s and 12-sided d6s because an old group of mine refused to use any die 'that doesn't roll right' so I'm kinda partial to adapted d12s. Also nice large numbers for the visually impaired guy in the group.

This of course does give problems with d8s.

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>>53552803
OP, you made me look at my dice and I found a dumbass d20

>>53557876
Note how the bottom of the number is towards the flat edge of the triangle it sits in and the top is towards the tip? So the number on the red(?) surface is a 9 and the number on the green surface is a 6.

It's not high-explosive armour-piercing self-propelled rocket science.

>>53557960
This is 4chan, most of us need pictures and diagrams

>>53553574
Not a platonic solid please leave.

>>53553854
If I had to stick to rolling one game shape for the rest of my life, I'd pick d30.
Its prime factors (2, 3, 5) cover the range of the complete standard set.

>>53559127
what the fuck are you talking about

>>53559127
How do you mean to convert a d30 into the other rolls by way of prime factorization?

>>53555200
Do not allow those dice. The d20s and d12s completely fail as random number generators. The sides are so thin that minute differences in the rounding of the edges results in some numbers you will basically never roll, and others that are strongly favored. The d20s will actually roll backwards to favor certain numbers.

The d10s are flawed in the same way, but not as roll-y. They're still unusable, but just less blatant about it. The d8s may be the only half-way decent dice of the bunch, but they're too small to be desirable, leaving the regular d8s as obviously superior. The d6s are the size of chicklets. The d4s... well... they're too elongated and don't roll around very well in your hand, so they're actually kind of crappy, but they're still better than the regular pyramidal d4s, so I guess I can't complain here. The twelve-sided, roman-numeral d4s are obviously the way to go though.

>>53559741
A d3 can cover a d2,d3,d6,d5,d10,d15 and d30 with its prime factorisation, the lack of 2^2 hurts it though, really a d60 is needed if you only want one dice to cover all the common fractions.

>>53560348
d60 still doesn't cover d8.

>>53560397
d120 is just silly

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>>53553854
I actually think that d20s are nice dice from the perspective of rolling, but I've had some bad results from Chessex dice as far as bias goes. That could just be the shitty Chessex dice (I did test some old, non-Chessex d20s that came out biased as well, but those were so ancient they were actually smaller in size, and one of the two was pretty beat up), but I'm wondering if d20s are susceptible to this sort of thing, given all their edges. Like, is it harder to fuck up a d10 or a d8?

>>53560420
So is d60 and d30

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>>53560423
There is only one true dice to buy.

>>53552817
Wrong. I looked at all my dice from the same and different sets. The numbers are different on every dice because every dice is different.

Hint -D20 will have smaller sides to a D8

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>>53560470
Yeah, I got some of those. I notice that the edges are easy to rub off though. I had developed a technique for rubbing excess paint off the dice faces by rubbing them on my fuzzy flannel shirt sleeve. I did this previously with regular (non-precision, non-game science) dice and it seem to work fine, but it eroded took the edges right off my game science dice.

That leaves me to wonder about a few things. First, are my game science dice any different than my other dice with respect to this, or is it just that the erosion is noticeable because of the sharp edges on my game science (while you don't notice if a rounded edge gets rounded)? Second, does this indicate that the dice are susceptible to wear and tear (like the old dice, which get crumbly-looking like in the pic here)? I was rubbing them vigorously enough that they were getting a bit hot, so maybe they were half-melting and half-rubbing away, which might not indicate anything about regular wear and tear. Now, I've changed my methodology for getting off excess paint, but I'm left wondering how durable the dice are.

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>>53560423
The old dice I was talking about.

>>53552803
I have a D6 with the numbers on it that does the same thing. It's stupid but I guess it's just a consistency thing for retards like in this thread.

>>53560667
Let the main man himself explain it to you

https://youtu.be/zaDzqYZufIQ?t=950

>>53560738
I'm less worried about how to ink the dice and more worried that I've discovered a flaw with them (that they aren't very durable).

>>53557960
Also, opposite the 9 is a 12, opposite the 6 is a15.

>>53560787
You're probably just being too rough with them, to remove paint just use a paint removing pen, or rubbing alcohol.

Obviously it's not meant to be rubbed down.

>>53560822
Rubbing alcohol seems to work like ass. A paint-removing pen seems like it should work well (I mean, that's it's entire fucking job), but just rubbing it with your (oily) thumb works okay too, as long as the amount of paint on there isn't excessive.

>You're probably just being too rough with them
That's quite possible. It still makes me iffy about making a big investment though (getting enough gamescience dice for the whole group), especially given how much of a pain in the ass it would be to ink them all.

>>53560470
>>53560667
I bought into the hype years ago, before the creator sold the company and subsequently repurchased it. Both my dice sets I purchased came with numerous physical imperfections. Half the numbers being deeply inset with a halo ring around them. Sides warped where insignificant material was injected or faulty cooling occurred. The gashes where the dice were broken out of the injection mold.

I never did test them for accuracy. I use them when I break out Gamma World.

>>53561056
You can just file down the blemish from the mold really easily

if the dice can use black ink an ultra fine sharpie pen works just fine

Don't think I've had an issue in the years I've been buying them

Pretty sure they've got a solid return policy if there's a major issue with your dice.

>>53560787
No dice are all that durable, casinos replace theirs frequently for that reason, and they have cushioned nonsense to roll in even if their dice are heavier and with straight edges. It really doesn't matter though, for gaming purposes even as much as 9/60,11/60,8/60,12/60,11/60,9/60 split really isn't going to matter all that much, especially as if it's d6's you normally roll craptons at a time so the imperfections are going to average out.

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Plebs, the lot of you.

>>53561056
I got some old d16s back before he sold the company, and a bunch of the dice did have significant imperfections (a seriously concave side, or a deep scratch/groove or something) -- maybe as many as 15-20% of them, in fact. The die I bought more recently didn't have big flaws like this, though there are some lesser versions of them, and about half the translucent dice did have a few (1-4) bubbles in them, though they were tiny, head-of-a-pin affairs, so I'm not sure how big of an effect they would have. They may also have been old stock as I didn't buy them off the gamescience website.

But some of these things might be unavoidable for precision dice that don't go through a tumbler, or at least ones that aren't ridiculously expensive. I certainly think the awesomeness of these dice can be overstated, and that there is some salesmanship involved, but if regular dice are all significantly unbalanced, and they aren't, they may still be worth it. I'm just frustrated that I can't find a solution that's all-around good.

>>53561137
Which Side is which?

>>53561511
It's quite easy if you just use the right-hand rule.

>>53554233
>The d10s, 12s, and 20s do, and most d8s are sold as part of an RPG dice set with consistent formatting across the faces on all dice.

"Consistent formatting" is the stupidest fucking reason ever to put an unnecessary line under a number to clarify to hypothetical idiots that the roll can't be an impossible number.

>>53562238
It's like hitting your blinker even when you're in the turn lane. It doesn't hurt anything and may help in some circumstances.

>>53562238
You getting autistic about people being autistic is rather autistic, don't you think?

>>53560420
Because a d60 isn't?

>>53558579
Get out of here, Kepler.

>>53561511
>current year
>doesn't know the difference between a Sider and a Double Leaning Jowler

Do I now have to make an RPG where the only dice used are Pass the Pigs?

>>53561137
These are the pieces for a game called 'Pass the Pigs' about rolling pigs in a cup and scoring them based on their orientation, similarly to Yahtzee!

>>53553854
>GOD TIER
>D20
You've done it now, you've become a meme

>>53555201
Strong words from the guys who still use feet, miles and pounds. Outdated rules in real life.

>>53554179
It would be easier to just make the cuts themselves larger. This also has the benefit of making it visually clear that the dice has an equal amount cut from each side.

>>53554892
You rolled the wrong dice.

>>53561137
I found a pair of those in a drawer, mentioned it to DM. Next session, was asked to roll 2dPig as a gag - to determine the difficulty of random boar encounter.

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>>53553446
>I-I was outed as retarded on 4chan!
>Quick, hide my shame by insulting anon nonsensically

Holy shit is this guy for real

>>53555730
What a fhit head.

>>53560423
>they both roll nat 20 the least often
Fucking Chessex.

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>>53568960
>he thinks he's a weightless being cause he walks on his hands!

>>53554822
>2017.png

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>>53555170
You don't have to like who's in the White House, but who's in the White House is your president all the same.

>>53567364
Which is total bullshit, because those toy pigs that come with the game don't roll fairly. I use only Game Science toy pigs.

>>53575883
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pass_the_Pigs#Relative_frequencies

Not rolling fairly is sort of the point.

>>53574557
Fuck off back to r/TheDonald you fucking underaged cunt.

>>53575988
The joke
Your head

>>53560470
Where can I get those?

>>53577324
Their website?

$10.50 way cheaper than the amazon listings
http://www.gamescience.com/7-Piece-Opaque-Black-Polyhedral-Set--Plain_p_114.html