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Deathstrikes makes 3d6 4+ hits or 3d6 mortal wounds?

>>53534878
>3d6 mortal wounds
You wish.

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Why not link to the leaks, you stupid git?

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4IGo22sDo4zdEtrRmEyelg2TkU

>>53534852
>Blood Angels don't have access to Cataphractii or Tartaros
>They also can't take the only vehicle that can transport Primaris Marines

What did they mean by this?

Reminder that Talons aren't squatted
The big box was limited run anyway and it says "This product will not be compatible and will soon be unavailable." because it has 7th edition codexes in it

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So any other dark eldar leaks except unit point tables?

I'm relatively pleased with my Deathwatch.

Everything else sucks balls. But if everyone sucks balls, the non-sucking ball man is king.

Why did I fall in love with playing 40k with the most expensive army in the game?

I WANT TO LOVE YOU, TYRANIDS.

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Any requests?

So, who are the most elite soldiers in the Imperium who aren't space marines? Tempestus scions?

>>53534956
Scions pls?

>Undivided legions get cucked again

>>53534896
What transport is that?

>>53534956

fuck off dipshit a much better Russian already did your job. The time for getting internet dick-sucks for leaking is over. YOU MISSED YOUR CHANCE.

>>53534969
Imperial Knights are the most elite

>>53534956
Nigger we have every book uploaded with good quality already

>>53534986
None. I'm retarded. I saw the Terminus Ultra had the "Land Raider" keyword, and thought it had the same transport capacity, but it can't transport shit.

Disregard me, I suck cocks.

>>53534969
custodeds
NOT TECHNICALLY SPACE MARINES HURR
fucking kill me

>>53534998
link for non-virus drive?

>>53534969
Assassins, Skitarii.

I asked in another thread but can anyone red pill me on tyranids? What's good now, what isn't?

So far I understand this:
S tier: Biovore
A tier: Genestealers, Zoanthropes, Flyrants
B tier: Carnifex
F tier: Pyrovores

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>>53534970
Here
>>53534987
>>53534998
Its for people who are too scared to download/ have shit internet/etc

>>53534969
Custodes because they aren't space marines

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Random weirdness: ork edition

Boss Nobz seem to be a free upgrade. That reduces the effective cost of many units by ~10 points, not a bad deal. Of course, veteran sergeants and the like are also free, but the BN is one of the better unit leaders.

Burnas are a free weapon, although burna boys are horribly overpriced. However on kommandos you can now have two of them for free. A 5 model kommando squad is 45 points with a boss nob and two burnas, compared to 90 points in the previous codex. This is more than enough to compensate for losing a decent cover save in my opinion. Also they move 6" instead of 5".

>>53534852
>not linking the drive
Why not just link the full leak for fuck sake
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4IGo22sDo4zdEtrRmEyelg2TkU

>>53534914
The entire index is in
>>53534892

>>53534944
Just buy chinese recasts, that's what I'm doing.
A caster like Z does plastics really, really well.

Best terminator captain model for codex chapters?

Harlequin look great in 8th

I don't like how there're lots of psychic powers (from across all factions) that give -1 to hit, look like it was rushed to hell.

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THEY MADE OGRYNS WORSE
HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE

>>53534914
Everything was leaked. I don't have a copy, though, sorry.
Biggest upset was Lilith Hesperax now uses combat drugs.

>>53535032
Thanks m8

The taurox rules are looking pretty sexy

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So, how many pages the core rules actually have? Did GW went full Sigmar or have they pulled extra rules out of their asses and splash them on 10 other pages in books?

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>>53534956
Points costs for Astra Militarum / Imperial Guard please

>>53535060
But are they plastics or resin recasts fo plastics?

>>53535121
They're all resin anon.

>>53535109
280 pages, including fluff.

>>53535110
Zero trigger discipline
Gaged ears
Weapon barrel pushed into ground
Unsanctioned Imperium hair style
Makeup on the battlefield
Woman

10/10 would execute for morale

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>>53535110

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>>53535121
Some kits come as near-GW ABS plastic, others are a mix, you'd have to look up exactly what you want on r/yoyhammer to see what they come as.

>>53535163
Wait, what? They said that core rules will be free - they are 280 pages? I think that you have misunderstood my question Anon

>>53535135
No they aren't, they couldn't possibly be all resin due to the sprue reproduction process.

Do we have any idea what the "standard" power level is going to be yet?

>>53535190
Just read this. Its the non-fluff part of the rule book.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4IGo22sDo4zd0dwZ3RUdWpDeVU

>>53535190
free core rules are just a 12-page booklet. advanced stuff must be paid for

>>53535204
47

>>53535216
>>53535210
Ok, that's what I was asking about. Thanks

>>53535204
Probably 100 power, or 2,000 points.

>>53535197
So recaster can make plastic mold now? Have lots of friends buying recast, even of recent kit like the Guilliman one and they're all resin.

can't mix units from different factions in the same army, unless they share at least 1 faction keyword... that's sad

>>53535266
Thanks.

>>53535284
>thats sad
nope

>>53535284
What were you planning?

>>53535284
Get fucked TauDar.

>>53535186
link pls

So with most army info leaked, do we know if there are based liwt builder website bros already working on things?

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>>53535032
> who are too scared to download
ahahahha wow

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>>53535170
Thanks!

>>53535310
a mix of necrons as melee for my tau

>>53535322
never did that

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So it looks like that buying two start collecting boxes would not be enough to play 1k pts games. That's all about new player-friendly new GW

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Very interesting, wouldn't you say?

>>53535284
Oh no my fluffy Grey Knight + Slannesh Demons + Eldar army cant be fielded together!

>>53535338
Fucking pussy deserve nothing.

>>53535268
Enjoy your cancer

>>53535268
Their plastic is a bit different, but yes they offer some stuff in plastics now.
It's sorta like a weird mix between the china resin and GW plastics. I don't know the exact make up, though.

What's the point of Custodes if they don't have Deep Strike?

>>53535369
They want you to buy Primarines.
Custodes were shafted hard, anon

>>53535356
didn't play that

>>53534976
Yeah, because "you can take your cult unit as troops" is such a massive effort. Christ, Thousand Sons don't even get a discipline. You take Ahriman or Magnus and all of your other psykers get to fuck off as far as magic goes.

But, hey, at least they gutted the squad psykers for Rubric Marines and Scarab Occult, so you don't have to worry about them even pretending to be members of the Thousand Sons.

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>5th edition stalker gives rapid fire to same target
>7th edition gives an aura of +1 to shooting
>8th gives a small shooting bonus to people aiming at the same target

I mean Particle Shredder is one of the best midsized weapons but still come on Stop fuckin around with my units support abilities

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Someone requested grinders earlier

>>53535364
Nah, I don't buy recast. My room is small so I'd rather fill it with genuine products than non-genuine one. Also the low price of recast could cause me to go on shopping frenzy and I don't want that to happen.
>>53535365
You have any Taobao link for that shop? My friends would be interested in that.

>>53534892
>https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4IGo22sDo4zdEtrRmEyelg2TkU

>Relentless gone
>Skitarii Rangers can no longer move and shoot the Transuranic arquebus

Fuck, so much for Admech mobile heavy sniper infantry.

So Nu-GW ripped out everyone special rules and flavour to resell to us again in another round of who gets the strongest codex.

At this point I'm just kind of in awe.

>>53535395
are there rules for generic C'tan shards or are we stuck with deceiver/nightbringer again?

>A missile + autocannon taurox prime is 130 pts
JUST

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This thread belongs to Slaanesh

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>elfdar are still good

>>53535439
Hey, Anon, Frankie here to tell you that this is the most balanced edition of Warhammer 40,000 yet. Wasn't it awesome of Games Workshop to offer us updated rules for all our models for such a low, low price?

>>53535335
imgur.com/a/km7jp
Some plastic, some resin

>>53535439
I don't expect much to change for the baseline stats, future codexes will just expand on it.

>>53535466
thanks, but was asking for a link to the recasters site lol

>>53535452
no anon, that was the last trainwreck of a thread

>>53535478
Wew.

>>53535478
>t. GW employee

>>53535467
I'm very, very doubtful that codexes will receive updates without significant additions to their model lines. The whole point of putting all the matched play points in the back is to make updating easy, which is defeated if unit datascrolls are being updated frequently in codexes.

If your army has fuckall for flavor or options now, it ain't getting better any time soon.

>>53535452
Have we seen (heard) anything as powerful as the Kakophoni of Traitor Cults?

>>53535482
What happened in the last thread, this is my first post of the day

>>53535484
Actually a dissaponted csm player, but ok

>>53535438
They can still move and shoot, only now they fire them as -1 to hit as what replaces Snap Shots.

>>53535440
There's still the nerfed Transcendent C'tan but they got rid of the bonus point of strength so it's meh.

I'm just sad that they took away Nightbringers ability to regen wounds

>>53535284
Eat shit Taudar + assassins WAACfag
get fucked HAHAHAHAH

>>53535433
>link
Go to yoyhammer and search from there. I don't say that to be a tool, but to clarify that directly linking to recasters can be a cause of their sites being shut down, cease and desists, etc.

>>53534956
I need the allies rules

>>53535438
They did get actually usable, though, and it's not like your dedicated artifact humpers were going anywhere. Stick 'em on a building and an objective, grab them an Omnispex and keep it out of sight and pop lesser characters from range. Personally I really like what they've turned into, although I'm irritated we lost so many things.

Relentless
Doctrinas
Scout/Crusader
6+ FnP (although invuln is there, just way more useless)
Rad-saturation wound spread
AP-1 (NO, getting it 1/6 of the time doesn't exactly count)

Generally had all their cool shit taken away for simplicity's sake, and now I have to tolerate missing on 2s. Sodding hell. At least the Kastelans reached true peak dakka, and plascals and Skitarii/Sicarians are cheaper even in Price Rises: The Edition.

>>53535486
I play IG so my fluff was gone a long time ago. Even Pask lost his bonuses for different turrets.

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>conscripts can still blob up
>basilisks are good now
>shadowsword can one shot anything short of a Land Raider
>Bullgryns are amazing with 4++ and bonus attacks on the charge for 42 ppm
>rough riders get 2 wounds and 8 ppm, finally
>wyvern is still cheap and still throws out dozens of shots
>Hydra is good again
>autocannons hit for 2 damage
>master of ordnance and master of the fleet are good now
>Doomhammer and Stormlord are the only firepoint transports in the game now and the embarked enginseer trick still works
>the deathstrike always inflicts mortal wounds on a hit
>except for the basilisk, guard vehicles haven't been price hiked, unlike every other faction

I was scared for a moment...but I think it's gonna be okay.

>>53535455
>Guard are even shittier.

Thanks GW. :c

>>53535494
1st rule of chinamen
no fucking sharing of info

>>53535488
Carnifax and Abaddon are IMO the terrors of 8th from what we have seen

>>53535509
didn't play that

>>53535498
they can't. it says in the weapon profile that they can't be fired if the model moved

>>53535526
>muh secret club
kys senpai

>>53535295
>>53535351
I know what you both mean
for me (CSM) it sort of just feels the same as playing post-6th but pre-legions, there isn't really anything "special"

>>53535514
Good luck shutting down Taobao shop. I know about Yoyhammer and the email bussiness. But in my place Taobao is much faster and safer.

>>53535263
Yea but that is entirely because these are just the bare minimum rules to play. When the codexes come out i think everything will look at lot better. Hell i mean i think every codex has at least one mention of different keywords such as
Clans and Chapters so i assume they will all get their own special rules

>>53535338
>>53534998
>>53534987
Go away, Jew-Workshop

>>53535515
see
>>53535284

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>>53535452
Slaanesh is best!
and also lewdest

>>53535478
I don't normally mind spoonfeeding (being a newcomer to the gaming aspect of the hobby) but a 20 second glance over on the subreddit will give you all the answers you need.

When you ask for the recaster information it makes you look like a GW informant by the way, so avoid doing that.

So if I'm looking at this correct Death Guard Armies dont get access to bikes anymore? Nor do they get Heldrakes forgefiends or maulerfiends?

>>53535541
Go fuck yourself you waste of space quadranigger, see
>>53535514

>>53535493
Eh nothing just some people talking about their fetishes while also discussing 40k

>>53534956
Is the Tempester Prime a stand alone model, or does he keep his command squad?

>>53535539
Oh, I assumed something like that would be stated on the unit card. And they still sting you 25 points a pop for them...I might run a single squad with two of them for AT/anti-character duty.

>>53535541
AFAIK it's less "sekrit klub" bullshit and more protecting the recasters from GW C&Ds. Though DESU the only really justifiable recasts are OOP/ultra rare models. Buying recasts of readily available figures is just blatant poorfaggotry.

>>53535521
and the best part is i just bought into the imperial guard meme

>>53535552
If a 20 second glance on reddit gives him all the info he needs why would a GW informant ask for links on 4chan instead? It makes no sense.

>>53535546
>When the codexes come out i think everything will look at lot better.
>said the retard that hasn't paid attention to the past two years of Sigmar releases

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>>53534852
>Deathwing still can't take Tartaros or Cataphractii armor

>>53535521
Basilisks look really cheap, they are only 100 points. Earthshaker is 0, but it says Heavy Bolter is 8. Does that mean they are 108 points?

What does a 4++ do exactly? Does that mean no matter what Bullgryn have a 4+ save with the Brute Shield?
>>53535524
They aren't really. The only difference is that orders aren't as good for single Infantry squads. Guard are also super good at getting Command Points. We can fill out that big one that gives +9 Command Points super easy. 40 point troops, like 50 point elites and 60 ish points heavy support.

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>>53535430
Furies cannot be Unaligned anymore.

>>53535563
Isn't that every thread?

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When I went to sleep last night, the leaks had just begun.

Now I'm waking up to see that GW has effectively killed 40k.

Anyone know a good hotline?

Titanic Feet is at least 12 attacks wtf?

>>53535552

copy that

>>53535593
Time to start working on 7.5 edition, amigo.

>>53535582
Show me a single piece of art that portrays Deathwing in anything but Indomitus.

>>53535581
I play 40k so i dont really pay attention to the other games sorry.

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>>53535354

His time will come.

>>53535593
I play Daemons. I'm going to go play AoS for awhile. At least they have complete rules for my faction.

>>53535593
>Now I'm waking up to see that GW has effectively killed 40k.
Don't we get this literally every edition/update, wait a few months and then realize it's actually pretty OK?

>>53535493

Bunch of roleplaying faggots

>>53535544

Yeah, I was in the process of building a Black Legion-aligned Tzeentch cult. Now there's no more "marked character makes cult legions troops" so that's up in the air right now.

Wouldn't mind so much if GW would put out a not-shit Chaos Marine kit REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>53535593
t. riptide faggot

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daemon chariots seem very powerful generally

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>>53535551
Are you that tranny from the last thread?

>>53535593

Only buttplugs crying about a ruined edition are Taufags and Tzeentch cunts. Which one are you, I wonder?

>>53535493
cringe borderline erp

>>53535552
Maybe I'm stupid, maybe I'm a newfag, but I'm not able to do that ;_; the prices for FW stuff on taobao are even higher than normal, and searching the subreddit I only found reviews

What benefits does FLY give?
>Ignores Terrain
>Can disengage from combat and still act.

Is there any other bonuses? Was reading the core rules and didn't see any consolidated summary list.

>>53535580
Because GW informants and employees are 100% guaranteed lurking here especially since all of their rules were leaked. If I'm not mistaken this is the source of the leaks.

>>53535611
>Belakor ready to perform a ritual to give him ghaos god tier powers
>Temple starts to shake
>Rocks begin to fall
>One rock crushes his head in forcing him to go back to the warp

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Anyone have the first page of Necrons rules? I mean the one with abilities and keywords. The russian pic is blurry as fuck

>>53535633
even the ork doomsayers have stopped whinging, yeah

Allies have to share a faction keyword

everyone is fucked.

>>53535629
They aren't, I am, but I've stopped posting that stuff I'm all about the leak stuff now.

Can you do multiple detachments and stack Command Points?

>>53535586
Are tank armies gud?

seems you could field a few more tonks now that they appear cheaper

>tfw trying to fit an exocrine into my 1500 point almost-entirely-melee Tyranid list
>tfw the cost of the model, plus the tax for needing a synapse unit to babysit it so it can shoot important shit, is way too many points

H E L P

>>53535615
Even if you ignore the balance issues which have yet to emerge, the new rules are BORING. And given how long it takes GW to pump out proper codexes, we're going to be stuck with this garbage for ages.

I honestly think Games Workshop have to be applauded for creating a ruleset which actually makes fucking 7th edition look desirable.

>>53534956
Kharn please.

I'm looking for some scantily-clad or nude female models I can convert to genestealer breeders. Already know about Brother Vinni, Hasslefree and WF female survivors. If anyone does an already pregnant one, that would be fantastic, but I think my green-stuff skills are up to the challenge.

>>53535639
Charging Flyers as well

What was the point of releasing 8th if noone has a codex yet? All the armies are bland as shit. Relics, factions, unique strategems are completely missing.

This is babies first ruleset but for our models instead of the game. Whoever gets the first codex will DESTROY everyone until they get theirs and the power creep can begin again.

>>53535552
>>53535637
Can I make a throwaway or something? I swear I'm not a gw informant :(

>>53535591
>>53535591
>Furies cannot be Unaligned anymore.

wtf is gw doing,,,,

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>>53535521
basilisks and master of the fleet were always good
i agree with everything else though
also don't forget that valks look really really good , thanks to our hover mode and 12man capacity we can zoom across the whole table to drop of squads with supporting characters where they're needed and snipe artillery / characters without the risk of going out of bounds

>>53535664
fucking ew

>>53535664
Please don't.

>>53535664
reeee genestealer ovipositors are in their tongue
they dont have dicks

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>>53535639
Most things that were fliers in 7th have a rule they can only be attacked in melee by stuff with the Fly keyword. In other words, your jump infantry can now punch planes.

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Chaos #1 pick???

>>53535667
You need the Flying tag to charge units with the Flying tag?

So, did anyone catch the Movement for Orks? Kinda in a rush right now.

>>53535664

gas yourself

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We're playable again, boys

>>53535662
>waaaaaah too much rules bloat strip out all the fluffy rules
>GW does so
>waaaaaaaaah too few fluffy rules the game is boring fuck GW
There is no pleasing some people.

>>53535680
>genestealer ovipositors are in their tongue
That's hot.

>>53535639
Can I charge someone in cc with my plane?

>>53535093

Let's list awful shit that somehow got weaker in the new edition that is touted as 'saving' 40k and making 'everything' playable

Right...

Ogryns.
Possessed

Any Skitarrifag want to explain how their ruststalkers or whatever the fuck they are called got worse?

Have we seen Mutilators / Talons yet?

Pyrovores? i didn't see them in the nid thread, at least the maleceptor seems decent now

>>53535639
Can move over other models
Interacts with Airborne keyword to allow them to attack fliers
Some weapons get a bonus to hit them

>>53535690
No.
Flyers.

>>53535664
Link to uncensored?

>>53535682
So Flying MCs / "Jump" troops / Crisis Suits are immune to being Charged by say Ork Boyz?

>>53535586
>basilisks are 100 ppm
I thought it was 200. The image was a bit blurry. That's great!

4++ means you get a save of 4+ versus everything except mortal wounds. Roll a 4, you're good. That's it.

>>53535099
She's sleeping with Duke - what did you expect?

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>>53535569
stand alone
on the plus side command squads are really good specialist squads , and he can actually give two orders now

>>53535699
No, the "airborne" rule prevents the model from charging.

>>53535700

How did Ogryns get worse?

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>>53535657
Not Imperium and Chaos ;^)

>>53535659
Im that perv from the last thread, do you have any website like a da or tumblr where you post pics of your stomach

And yeah the leaks are looking good, I'm pretty excited for 8th

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>>53535608
They're the First Legion, whose gimmick is having old shit, they where the first to get this armor, and they apparently all gave it away to the Salvation Army.

>>53535698
they dont stick in in the pucci
its in the throat
fucking fetishfags just want to be raped by the xenomorph even if it doesn't happen that way in the lore

>>53535700
Lelith got nerfed and they fucked up her fluff by giving her Combat Drugs.

>>53535697
>strip out all the fluffy rules
Nobody asked for that. It was all the simulationist shit that was bloating the system you strawmanning retard.

>>53535498
>Transuranic Aquebus
>You cannot fire this weapon if you moved in the movement phase

Don't lie to me anon

>>53535633
I play six armies, and none of them seem fun to play anymore.

I'm genuinely very depressed by this shit.

>>53535707
Ah. K no wonder I didn't see it. Wasn't reading old Fliers.


Kinda odd there is no summary of what certain Keywords do :/

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>>53535593
I play DE, nothing has really changed for us, but everyone has been brought closer to us

>>53535680
It's a hybrid; only one arm on the near side. Hybrids reproduce sexually.

>>53535687
Fiends look fucking hilarious. I can't wait to lock a Land Raider or Baneblade in melee with one.

>>53535697
>>waaaaaah too much rules bloat strip out all the fluffy rules

I have literally never asked for this. I wanted the exact opposite of this. 8th is a complete and utter failure in my eyes.

If Farseers and Eldrad can't take Revenant powers, who can?

>>53535031

S tier: Genestealer/Trygon combo
A tier: melee Flyrant, Swarmlord
B tier: Carnifex, Warriors

>>53535514
Min>>53535552
>>53535575
>>53535637

How do they even get business if their black market club can't tell other people how to buy it? Surely 6 people can only buy so many chinese titans?

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>>53535653

Here ya go. Sorry about your army getting cucked dude. We're all feeling it.

My 500pt Eldar army became a 710 point Eldar army under the new rules. The biggest breaker was my Falcon with a bright lance, which went from 130pts to 204pts.

Fug.

>>53535637
My dude it's the VERY FIRST sticky.
A search with the keyword "email" or "catalogue" will also yield results. I would suggest ordering from Z personally.

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>>53535694
5, except for mega armour (4) and kommandos (6)

>>53535714
command squads seem best suited towards acting as meat shields for the boss and giving him vox access so your main trooper squads have a bit more punch to them

which is A-OK with me

Is it me or did a lot of units and armies lose a huge amount of their flavor? It seems like it's all just walking statlines now.

>>53535722
god please fucking stop this
you people are worse than doomsayers

How are the Dark Angels flyers this time around? My internet is too potato to download.

Is it worth getting 4 rhinos for use with CSM?

>>53535710
no
the only being able to be charged by flying model rule is intrinsic to some flyers (not even all of them , the helldrake for example can be charged by anything)
also don't forget a flyer can just fall back from combat without penalty so it's basically jepack troops taking a swing at a passing aircraft

>>53535614
Are daemons shit now? Wanted to make a nurgle daemons army for both AoS and 40k

>>53535167
>Cannot imply properly

>>53535687
Hellflayers can make a D6 shooting attack S4 0 D1, attack 4 times, attack d6 times at 2x -1 D2 and then make an additional 4 S4 0 D1 attacks while in combat

Great googly moogly

>>53535726
Thats
>a: not Deathwing
>b: from 30k
Try again. The Deathwing in 30k only use shitty Indomitus.

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Be'lakor is confirmed to be the most important character in the setting but....

What role will he play in the end of the galaxy?

>>53535754
Shuriken Cannon Jetbikes went from 27 to 32 points. In exchange, they can chip away wounds from Russes and Land Raiders (especially if Doom is up). Just use Vypers and stuff to tie up enemies as well.

>>53535749
>B tier: Carnifex, Warriors

>22 point warriors with lashwhip + bonesword
>B

>87 point carnifex with 2xscything talons
>B

anon...

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>>53535726
>Salvation Army.

Yeah, that's what happened to it.

>>53535748
Yvraine and the Yncarne.

>>53535697
>There is no pleasing some people.
I'm pretty sure no one was ever asking for fluffy rules to be stripped out.
Fuck, Orks are all about the fluffy rules!
This is BULLSHIT.

>>53535760
>5, except for mega armour (4) and kommandos (6)
...Why the fuck are Orks slower than everyone else now? That's a bullshit nerf if I ever saw one.

WTF GW. WTF?

>>53535614

This. We just cannot compete right now

>>53535760
Movement 6 seems nice, Kommandoes worth taking now?

Ghazkhull seemed pathetic as fuck compared to everyone elses big heroes.

Did we see Zag / Snikkrot?

>>53535700
>Any Skitarrifag want to explain how their ruststalkers or whatever the fuck they are called got worse?
They got slower, lost feel no pain and infiltrators have a pathetic debuff aura compared to what they got before. But they are much cheaper.

>>53535687
Any Chance you can post Defiler, Forge Fiend, Raptor, and/or Warp Talon profiles?

Thanks!

So apparently flyer is the only shit that can transports Dreanought now ?

>>53535780
>30k
*40k
I mean.

>>53535762
They're likely saving all of those special rules and wargear for their actual faction codex books. It's a fucking shame that some armies are literally going to play without some of the rules that make them work for the better part of a year knowing how slow GW is about this shit.

>>53535722
I don't, but if I ever do I'll reach out to you here.
>>53535717
They didn't get worse, they are cheaper and cheaper than Bullgryn by quite a bit. Bullgryn are 42 or 45 points depending on what you give them, but Ogryn are just 30. Ogryn got better because they are cheaper.

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>>53535774
Nurgle Daemons are very, very good

>>53535803
Voila

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>>53535767

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>no vendetta

not sure if anyone still cares but...
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/31/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-necrons/

>>53535746
>I wanted the exact opposite of this.
What, yet more special rules and multi-books-to-make-one-army-playable bullshit? Literally all I've heard from Doomsayers is bitching about how there's "too many rules" and how they need to "strip down the system and make it more like (insert favourite wargame here)". And now that they've gotten that they whine.

You made your bed, now get fucked in it.

>>53535753
Not my army yet - I'm the new one here and I want to pick __Tau__
Necrons are my girlfriend's pick

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>>53535782
8th edition confirmed to be last edition before explosion and Age of Emprah
just like Fantasy :^)

>>53535813
You're doing Papa Nurgle's work anon, keep it up!

>>53535801
More like... they lost everything that make them worth fielding. Transonice weapon are hot garbage with 0 ap, the Mortal Wound bonus are "instead" and not even "In addition to". No Haywire grenade, no Dataspike, no option. No 3 arms.

Look like they might become the new "meme" unit of this edition.

>>53535792
SHIT!

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>>53535803

>>53535813
>Nurgle Daemons are very, very good
I know they are an easy to run army for newbies in AoS but had no chance to look at their rules in 8e yet

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Is there a page online with all the Eldar stuff that has been leaked?

>>53535708
Check /d/

>>53535350
play a 500 or 750 point game then?

>>53535827
>You made your bed, now get fucked in it.
No. Nobody asked for this.

>>53535821
it's gonna be forgeworld
we've pretty much known this since 7th ed death from the skies
don't worry guardsman, 6d6 damage rolls will be yours , always count on the imperial navy

>>53535758
I've found a catalog from Z, but I don't know if it's the most recent one and I don't know how to contact him :(

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>>53535780
That's literally the Deathwing symbol on his chest kid. How are this retarded?

>>53535855
Xenos book, third post of this thread.

So with the leaks, what's better for an inquisitorial army: running acolytes and the like or jusy saying fuck it and leading a bunch of scions with an inquisitor?

Did the Chimera lose Command Vehicle? Can I not issue orders from inside of it anymore?

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>How many attacks do you want?
>Just
>Fuck
>Me
>Up

>>53535811
I am really of the camp that sigmar was generally a success and they learned a bit now, but we likely will still be in limbo like how legacy armies are there for a while. The problem is sigmar didn't actively take a step down from fantasy, but 40k is going from tons of fun (not broken) formations and army rules to just statlines.

ELDAR PSYCKERS SUCK EDITION!!!!

>>53535824
>And just because you’ve all been waiting patiently for millions of years
kek
I R O N Y
R
O
N
Y

Anyone know what the "Fly" keyword does? Trying to find it in the leaks but unable to.

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>>53535664
Ah, you're a 'That guy'

>>53535865
nobz @ vip. 163. com

>>53535812
Not by much, Las edition they were 35 per, and they don't get the save wizardry of Bullgryns. They DO get the ripper gun and the fact that you don't need low AP to do damage, so they've gotten somewhat better.

All in all most of the guard codex has made out pretty good.

>>53535879
>PSYKERS SUCK EDITION!!!!
Ftfy

>>53535710
No you retard,(most) things that WERE FLYERS in 7th have a rule called Airborne that means only models with Fly can charge them. Read before posting.

>>53535867
Fair enough. It's still 30k and therefore means jack shit.

>>53535858
Sure I will but that's just stupid GW move desu. The 1k pts games are the lowest legal ones so LGSs will not run any lower games even for newbie tournaments. 1k pts is also the lowest format for AoS and guess if any LGS has run 500 or 750 tournaments

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>>53535812
lovely, I simply adore stuffing and gut worship, praise Slaanesh, indulge and swell
I'm also waiting because I wanna start some daemonettes and Chaos Space Marines but I'm afraid they'll immediately make a start collecting daemonettes and release better CSM sculpts

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>>53535820
Not bad.

>>53535874
I think so, but the musical wounds and th fact that your commanders seem to be able to embed themselves in REALLY big units like 50 man conscript blobs makes up for it. Somewhat.

>>53535889
I'm pretty sure they know, hence the joke.

>Gauss
Thing was autowounding/glancing on sixes
Gets -1 AP on basic guns instead of better results (Rending or Higher Damage, since that's pretty much the only thing you can do to weapons now) on sixes.
>Galvanic Rifles
Thing was AP4 which should be AP-1.
Gets AP-1 on sixes instead of the basic AP their actual purpose was.

Did GW confuse the robot factions?

>>53535867
>star of david in the chest
A FUCKING JEWMINATOR

>>53535799
Free burnas and nob make a minimal unit about half what it was in last edition, so yes. Kommandos are totally worth it.

Is there any consensus on whether command points are actually good? As in, good enough to take the crappy slugga boys over kommandos? Or even to pay for a few 30 point grot squads?

>>53535900
Wanna fuck my boipucci later?

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>>53535847
>>53535813

>Free wounds per turn
>Magma cutter shooting attacks
>No gets hot Ectoplas
>Dat autocannon
>Mauler fists

Hhnnnrghhh!!!!!!!

Okay GW....you win...I'll overlook the Obliterator nerf, you glorious bastards

Thank you, anon.

>>53535785
Those Carnifexes have a hard time getting hits in with WS 4+, and the crushing claws taking away an attack AND the re-roll 1's AND giving a -1 hit penalty is absolute ass.

If you want useful crushing claw fexes you are basically forced to run OOE

>>53535865
Christ anon. Chances are the listing is the same, only a possible change in price. If you enter the code and put the title of the mini next to one another any discrepencies will be corrected. I'm not giving out the email, just google it. Goddamn.

>>53535801
Jeeze, this is a huge letdown for an otherwise pretty great models....

Atleast Infiltrators are useable, althought in a much different, unfluffiest way, and i like their models more anyway.

>>53535944
tfw no cute boipuccis to fucc

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>>53535824
Faction Focus when everything had already been leaked.

Thanks GW.

The fuck is with things in the google drive vanishing after it loads?

>>53535879

Until the codecies come out with new psychic powers.

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>no generic chapter masters
WHAT?
HOW COULD THEY FORGET THIS?

>>53535891
allows you to fall back from combat and still shoot , can move across units and terrain as if they weren't there
if you want to know about flyers in specific , most of them have a special rule on their unit profile stating they can only be charged by models with the keyword fly, and that models targeting them suffer a -1 to hit

>>53535975
Wait, really?

>>53535905
They were 40 per Ogryn plus 10 for the Bone Ead. 130 points for base 3 Ogryn, but now they are a flat 90 for the base 3. That's a big difference to me.

>>53535969
It's the Russians

>>53535939
The Dangles always have the most obvious religious symbolism. With their biblical names, a civil war caused by a guy named Luther, their ancient forgotten Jew-Star armor.

>>53535900
>>53535944
Email him and ask for the catalogue first, that way you know you got the right person. Follow the directions in the sticky on the subreddit to a T otherwise you'll get ignored and marked as a no-sale.

>>53535951
who gives a shit about crushing claws when you have a dirt cheap mortal wound on charge machine?
Even if they have shitty 4+, you can still get 3 of those for the price of 1 tervigon.

>>53535356

Isnt that the faggot that got out manuevered by ahriman?
Not very promising.

>>53535860
Then what DID you want? More band-aid books? More needlessly complex rules within rules? Games taking even longer than they already did?

People have been whining about "rules bloat" without actually saying what that means and then are surprised when GW tries to accommodate them and doesn't give them EXACTLY what they want. You wanted a quicker, simpler and more streamlined game. You got one. Put up or shut up.

>>53535981
I noticed that Drukhai Reaver Jetbikes, Scourges and Hellions had the keyword "Fly". I heard something about -1 to hit, is that also true?

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>2ppm
>5+inv
>can cast Smite
Cheap Disposable unit causing mortal wounds
Terminators on suicide watch

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>autocannons deal 2 wounds
>but the exterminator doesn't shoot 8 times
>but the hydra does
>and it can fire at 5+ vs ground targets

Eh, I'll take it. Pom-pom is go!

And while we're at it:
>punisher with 3 heavy flamers
DID SOMEONE SAY INFANTRY?

>>53535994
Ooops wrong post, meant to quote >>53535354

>>53535556
You only have to ensure one of your faction keywords is the same for the entire army.

Protip: Yours is Chaos you illiterate traitorous fuck.

>>53535985
>>53535975
I can understand why. They are extremely rare people for an extremely rare army (fluff-wise). More focus on captain's are OK in my book, especially now that Lieutenants are a thing as well.

>>53534852
So does every army also have a bracket faction/flavor faction?

Do any of the armies have an example of what these do OTHER than simply keeping certain characters from providing cross-chapter/sept benefits or being in the same transport?

>>53535675
>Too bad Vendetas are kill

>>53535987
Hey, no argument here, trooper. I'm taking em.

>>53535951
>using crushing claws
>not just using scything talons for a s6 t8 distraction/fuck machine that only costs 87 points

>>53535975
a lot of interesting options have disappeared. But there's a paragraph in the general rules about codices, saying there's a lot more shit in that that in the indices: special rules, new options, relics, etc.
Basically we have the bulk of the game but we're still going to have to pay for up-to-date codices with better options

>>53536018
"We will make rules for every model we currently produce" - GW

Is there a plastic vandetta model?

>>53535948
The autocannon isn't actually that great. Hilariously, if the Forgefiend wants to move, it now hits things on 5s. Enjoy.

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>>53535985
Only captains in their various suits.
No way to upgrade any to a Chapter Master.
NO WAY TO GET FUCKING ARTIFICER ARMOUR!
SO HONOUR GUARD WILL HAVE BETTER ARMOUR THAN THE GUY THEY'RE GUARDING!

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>>53535996
nope
that rule is specific to a unit's special rules and they seem to be lacking it

>>53536029
Yeah I have one. The only thing that FW provides for it is the lascannons.

Alpharius rules when?

>>53535975
>FORGET
Captains and chapter masters were barely removed form one another rules-wise in 7e.

It was likely a deliberate omission so they didn't have to do another seven entries for Chapter Master in Ultraimus Armour, Chapter Master with Volkswagon Beetle, etc

>>53536022
I built 8 Bullgryn and Nork, but after seeing how cheap Ogryn are, I'm tempted to get more. I hate this. I will have so many Bullgryn and Ogryn. I should have just magnetized them like I wanted to 6 months ago. It was just too much effort.

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>>53536039

All the faggots with Smashfuckers are now useless

>>53536013
Protip go read the Death Guard army list you spastic dickjockey.

>>53536027

It's like 3rd edition all over again where all we got was a very basic list for every army in the main rulebook until the codices came out.

>>53536018
forgeworld my dude
have faith

>>53536053
You're literally me
Couldn't be bothered to magnetize, but I have 5 Ogryn, Nork and 9 Bulls

>>53535992
Because 1 mortal Wound on a 4+ isn't going to do much when attempting to peel open a Land Raider, and neither are S6 scything talons Wounding on 5s. Carnifexes are now significantly worse at being can-openers which was the entire point of the unit before. They're still really good models and still have a role but it feelsbadman to not be able to rip into tanks with them like before, I'm still trying to figure out what the best model for that job even is anymore.

>>53536027
Honestly I'm fine with that

Generic rules for cheap so you can run the armies with the big convert to new rules books and actual faction books later

So weren't we supposed to get faction-specific strategems? Or did I read over them when I skimmed the leaks or did I just imagine that?

>>53535032
>Its for people who
don't really want the rules.

>>53535875
T-that thing hits like 5 genestealers!

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>>53535951
>If you want useful crushing claw fexes you are basically forced to run OOE

>Implying that is a bad thing

Good luck he's behind 4 fucking Carnifexes

>tfw building my fourth now

I've had it lying around, i like the sound of the Heavy Strangle-cannon hitting on 3's versus big groups. i think i'll go Talons+that but the rest are all talons+crush claws

>>53536058
You don't come here often, do (you)?

>>53536045
thanks anon

>>53535939
Time to mail my deathwing to auschwitz

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>>53536015
You know who's more rare than a chapter master?
UNIQUE, ONE OF A KIND CHARACTERS, INCLUDING NAMED CHAPTER MASTERS!
BUT GW DIDN'T FORGET TO PUT THEM IN THE BOOK!

>>53535922
My fliers don't have Airborne. Hince the confusion.

Wasn't sure if that was an intrinsic benefits Fly (and thus be in the core rules) have or was model specific (and be on the datasheets).

>>53536025
It's toughness 7, not 8

And the talons won't be cracking tanks very well anymore

>>53536070
Right? It's so much more frustrating than magnetizing other things. I couldn't do it in a way that I liked. Time to buy another Ogryn pack and maybe buy a single Ogryn off of ebay. I'll go 4 of each.

Good to see another player with tons of Ogryn and Bullgryn.

>>53535939
>In Imperial Caliban, Jew burns you

No seriously, it looks more like a unicursal hexagram, the kind Aleister Crowley would use.

>>53536093
They've got models though, Chapter Masters do not

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>>53535870
Link me the post i cant find it lad

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>>53536076
>mfw 5 genestealers are only 60 points now
Daemons BTFO

>>53536000
>2ppm
>4+inv
>can cast Smite on 5+
>Lose one 2pt model each time you cast Smite

>>53536110
>>53534892

>>53536073
We were told we would, but apparently those aren't coming until the Codex releases

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>>53536062
not him but
???????

>>53536093
"EVERY MODEL WE CURRENTLY PRODUCE"

It's like the post-5th cleansing of units with no models, "no fun allowed" edition inc.

>>53534956
>power Lance and Maul are the same
dude I love the New GW

>>53536119
>5
I think you mean 2 genestealers, they have 4 attacks now aslong as you have 10 in a unit

>>53536110
I've downloaded everything. What do you want?

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>you can warptime a lord of skulls (which is now a potentially usable unit thanks to a points reduction)

>>53536108
But you're wrong.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Space-Marine-Masters-of-the-Chapter

there are no vehicle firing arcs anymore right? so monolith/tesseract vault/obelisk can fire all their weapon at single target as long as it can reach it from any point?

Can any guard friends explain what on earth has happened to platoons?

are they kill

Post vallyrie stats plox

>>53536093
Boy, I look forward to Guardsmen With Slight Limp, Guardsmen With One Eye Missing, and Extra Cowardly Guardsman all getting rules soon. They're much more common than the named heroes of the 41st millennium, after all.

>>53536133
Go to the Death guard lore page. On the other side read the Deaath guard army rules. No bikes.

chaos pdf yet?

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>Death throes

Did they want to make MCs as much like tanks that they suddenly make them EXPLODE?

Punisher Pask
2 Battle Cannon Russ
1 Demo Russ
1 Executioner Russ

2 Chimera w/ Vets w/ shotguns and Las Team

1 HVS w/ Las


85 Play Points.

Am I just shitting or is this an ok list for casual games?

Already so many things I'm hoping for from the codex. A vanquisher cannon that's actually better at killing than the battle cannon and punisher for one thing.

>>53536145
This fucking thing gets more attacks as it has less wounds wtf.