Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

First for Dark Eldar no longer meme army

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Second for Slaanesh!

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>No leaker gives enough of a shit to take pictures of orks

>meanwhile Tau get reposted by multiple leakers

>>53524447
Don't abandon us, leak-non!

my dudes > your dudes

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>>53524547

>not a meme army
>literally called drew carey

Second for i want Eldar to be eternally cucked like Tau

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>>53524547
Xth for A BRAND NEW CAR

12/21.

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Points for discussion.

>>53524561
I'm surprised we haven't gotten more cron stuff.

>>53524561
Not much about Guard either despite how many play them here. My guess is the leakers hate Guard players.

I only played AoS but Want to start with 40k, i have no idea about the armys.. but i want a good shooting Army - Any Ideals? Pls no SM

Needs more Nurgle.

ANY LEAKS FOR SPACE MARINE CHARACTERS? GOTTA SEE MY BOY LYSANDER

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>>53524564
13/21

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>>53524574

>>53524574
All we have are Tau leaks over and over but AT LEAST THIS GUY'S POSTING MEMES GUYS

Guard scans when REEEEEEEEE

Really though, please? I'm dying over here.

>>53524567
>literally called drew carey
I dont get that

>>53524600
Doesn't he have 10 wounds?

It's honestly rather amusing that Ahriman somehow managed to become even more useless than he was in previous editions.

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>>53524597
14/21

>>53524586
tau and astra militarum are the shooty armies in 40k. last thread and this one have tau stuff; Am will probably get leaked soon

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How common will Vespids be?

>>53524610
Say "Dru khari" out loud

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>>53524600

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>>53524610

>drukhari
>dru
>khari
>drew
>carey

>>53524574
They can move as normal after disembarking, they don't have to charge only.

>>53524610
>Drukhari
>Dru-khari
>Drew Carey
Must you always be spoonfed?

>>53524586
Just be another tau player.

>>53524616
15/21

Someone mentioned last thread that Stompa was only leaked in German. I could translate, if there's a picture of it.

>>53524614

9 - also, that picture is stupid. Shoot the guardsmen with a fucking bolter.

8th edition looks like it will be fun.
shame I will never get to play it because my new job wants people physically present in the office for twelve hours a day, even if people are only working for eight of those hours.

>>53524582
I am told Guard players are all an heroing over how bad their rules are.

I legitimately feel sad for them and hope they get a good Codex update with new plastic Guardsmen soon.

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>>53524626

>>53524616
>Klaivex gets 6 attacks

Noice, mandrakes still like like shit though

>>53524639
Tabletop Simulator, Anon.

>>53524586

Play Imperial Guard or Sisters. You don't want to be a subhuman Tau do you?

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>>53524636
Too hyped and forget picture edition. 15/21.

>>53524639
I assume youre being paid for 12 hours?

>>53524636
not complaining, but you forgot an image anon

its not your fault, posting dumps is draining on the mind, trust me

>>53524616
Dang. Incubi seem nasty.

>>53524616
>Mandrakes give a -1 to hit and have a 5+ invuln
>Can easily deep-strike
>Decent firepower with a good chance for mortal wounds
>Lots of attacks in close combat
>Good accuracy
>4 power rating, which means they're probably pretty cheap

Are Mandrakes good now?

I don't know how you purchase an index and not want to scan that shit ASAP for all the anons.

Jesus Christ chaos is going to suck ass.

>>53524600
Ollanius Pius reborn
>>53524614
could've been a shot with high damage that is still wasted on the guardsman
>>53524629
not him but I'm not american and ESL, things like that are a lot harder to get

>>53524638
>implying a CSM drone has the mental capacity for such advanced tactics.

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>>53524658
16/21

>2 WOUND REAVERS

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>>53524661
Not in Trumps America

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>>53524678
17/21

>>53524564
We don't need more tau pics. Just post the PDF.

>>53524682

That is illegal. Threaten to sue or stop being in a shit job, fag.

>>53524678
>Eldar can still take 1 heavy weapon per bike
>Darkies have to share 1 between 3

Thanks GW

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>>53524687
gotcha homie

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>>53524686
18/21

>>53524687
I appreciate the higher res.

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>>53524701
19/21

>>53524702
so do I! Will make a pdf with these new pics

>>53524626
ALL GLORY TO CHAOS

>>53524567

Fun fact: Drew Carey used to be in the US Marines.

Therefore, Nurgle CSM should be the ones called Drukhari because they're all fat ex-marines.

>>53524574
You do realize it would be

>Get out of Rhino
>Rhino moves forward
>Marines move forward
>Rhino charge
>Marines charge
>All of them melee same turn

>>53524695
>This will never, ever backfire

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>>53524714
20/21

It seems to me that what was shit stayed shit and what was good stayed good

>>53524648

Lol'd hard

I am 100% ok with this, but it should be an ork only rule

>>53524648
>>53524626
>>53524600
>>53524574

Thank you.

Full Ad Mech please? We've only gotten a few

>>53524678
>Reavers with 2 wounds and a 4+ save

So this is what it means to be not made of paper

>>53524728
The problem is the Rhino has much higher movement, and the point of a transport is to get the unit in close to the enemy.

So the unit gets out... and then the vehicle keeps going. It could have taken them an extra what, 6 inches? But no, they have to get out of a vehicle BEFORE IT MOVES, despite the whole point of a transport being the guys stay inside it WHILE IT MOVES.

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>>53524742
21/21.

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>tau and grey knights are the 2 factions this fag decides to take pictures of

>>53524758
I hope you're not leaving us anon :(

>>53524758


Thank you, Scanon. May there be plentiful (You)s IN YOUR FUTURE.

>>53524732

>You will never, ever not be a pussy

>>53524748
Assuming that stormboyz have <fly> they can assault planes now. Just like in my vidya games!

>>53524686
Raiders seem great

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If possessed still suck I will probably not even bother starting a CSM army

>>53524575
me too :(

>>53524695
Not too familiar with modern labor laws in MAGA states, are you? I suggest taking a gander at some contract labor laws, overtime protections were a union thing. US employers deny overtime pay CONSTANTLY. It's one of the big drivers to the whole 'this guy sitting in this office working the same job all day is a contractor even though he is literally identical to the guy next to him in every respect' epidemic.

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>>53524758
SPICY BONUS PICTURE. GET YOUR DRUGS, KIDDOS!

>>53524773
I'll always be shitposting with you guys, I always have been.

>>53524564
based anon, can we get a pic of the GK psychic powers?

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>>53524785
bad news

>>53524664
>seeker missiles only hit on 6's
wut

>>53524701
Venoms are still fantastic.

>>53524708

guess stormsurges are the better big mecha now

Drukhari points?

RALLY GUARDFAGS, IF YOU TYPE "SCANS PLS" IN THIS THREAD THEN SCANON WILL GRANT YOUR SCANS.

>>53524802
last thread has GK stuff

>>53524785
They are actually worse than before, with less movement, no marks, no fearless and random attacks.

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>>53524758
Missed one.

>>53524811
Markerlights.

>>53524811
you need 2 MLs on a target to fire seekers at normal BS

>>53524811
Markerlights make them use the units bs. Also they autowound now if they hit.

>>53524811
Two markerlights let them hit on units BS with modifiers.

>>53524838
Pls post possessed profile

>>53524796
I'm amazed they managed to remove even more options from the gutted 7th DE Dex. But what's left looks pretty great! I'm optimistic that they'll be good. Although I'm sad Raiders aren't better in CC. The ram and the blades suck, hopefully the number of attacks that we can't see is awesome

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>>53524836

Kroot been posted yet?

>>53524838
I was about to post that after I realized it. Thanks!

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>>53524811
You can use markerlights to hit at full BS

Skyray has bs3+ and with a few markerlights you hit with missiles on 3+ rr1 and do a mortal wound with each missile

Remember you can fire ALL your weapons each turn, so as soon as you get a target with 2 markerlights you can unload all 6 missiles

Its a character assassin and its very good

SCANS PLS for GUARD!

Humbly requesting Nids weapon rules please.

>>53524836

You've provided no proof at all.

>>53524860
Last thread.

>>53524664
Seeker middles sound like shit

Anyone has a link to the blog with the leaks?

>>53524860
Yeah, check the old thread

>>53524785
They suck shit

>possessed literally worse then spawn with random d3 attacks and no fleet and no fearless
>obliterators lose their flavor ability to he replaced with a shitty semi-improved autocanon
>kharn nerfed
>berzerkers nerfed
>leadership nerfed
>cultists more expensive
>marks removed
>fixed boon table from traitors hate removed
>votlw removed
>"That's what you get for betraying the Emperor!"

>>53524758
Much appreciated man.

>>53524824
SCANS PLS

I just want to realize how okay our army really is this edition. My last hopes lay on Straken and Bullgryn for being solid.

>>53524885
No.

>>53524743

So on a 5+ against vehicles on wound roll you get D3 mortal wounds.
So D6 hits, say you roll 6 5 and 6s.
6 D3 mortal wounds on top of the other 6 possible wounds.
For a maximum of 24 wounds in a single shot when firing at vehicles and monsters? Of which 18 can't be saved.

When would you ever take solid shot?

>>53524872
I'm just going by what the Italian leaker said.

>>53524643
enginseer buffed.
leman russ sponsons firing without penalties
possible bullgryn buff
>bad

Page Index of Big rulebook?

42 fucking Tau posts. I'm going to PISS BLOOD if somebody doesn't post Guard orders.

Please jesus fuck.

>>53524758
>>53524796
Have points been posted anywhere?

>>53524891
Much like Orks, anything that isn't infantry is crap compared to everything else. Just take tons of Guardsmen, and fuck everything else.

>>53524675
If he had 10+ wounds, he could be targeted (even if he's a character). Alas, he has 9 and can not. But the Obliterators not split firing shows that Chaos are obviously still nerfed into the ground by their biggest hurdle: retarded players.

Yo who the fuck cares about all this tau ig ork bullshit

you know what we really need? more marine shit

gimme some like smaller, old scale Primaris models yo

>>53524534
Anything for Dark Angels or Space Wolves yet?

>>53524895
The extra mortal wounds only apply to solid shot.

>>53524878
they are

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>possessed literally worse then spawn with random d3 attacks and no fleet and no fearless
>obliterators lose their flavor ability to he replaced with a shitty semi-improved autocanon
>kharn nerfed
>berzerkers nerfed
>leadership nerfed
>cultists more expensive
>marks removed
>fixed boon table from traitors hate removed
>votlw removed
>"That's what you get for betraying the Emperor!"
I am Jack's broken heart.

>>53524855
Every army in the indexes have been stripped down to basic form. There are no Chapter Tactics for Space Marines, no Relics, etc. Personally, I'm very pleased with the DE rules.

Why is there literally no vanilla marine leaks?

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Last one

Might get more photos tomorrow, which army do you guys want to see?

>>53524911
You can't split fire to hit guilliman in that situation.

>>53524681
Why even use missles?

>>53524910
That's what I'm gathering from what I've seen so far. I think Punishers and Exterminators will probably be good too. Vulture gunships too.

>>53524923

Yeah my bad, just noticed the dash now

>>53524770
My sentiments exactly.

>>53524895
Because submunition doesn't have that rule? It clearly has "-" on the special rule part.

>>53524932
imperial guard

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>>53524830
ah found the pic, thanks anon

>>53524936
Nothing will be good enough to warrant spending points on, when those points could be spent on Guardsmen/Conscripts instead.

If the rumours are to be believed... then Conscripts are either still 3 points each... or possibly 2.

>>53524911
>you can't specifically target a model unless it has 10 wounds
Is the most arbitrary rule I've ever seen. Wounds are just how tough a thing is. Why is a tough small thing easier to target than a weak big thing? It makes no fucking sense.

>>53524932
imperial guard

>>53524905
>Tau Empire melee weapons

top kek.

Also Riptide and Ghostkeel no longer have AP 2 close combat attacks for no reason. Tau truely suck at close combat once more !

>>53524927
Oh I agree.

Question: sure a haemonculus give himself +1 T?

>>53524932
Dark Angels please. All we've seen is Sammael Not that I'm complaining. He's great

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>>53524932
Really thankful, anon! The Tau'Va will forever cherish your work.

>>53524932
DA, SW, Tyranids

>>53524932
Chaos pl00x!

>>53524932
Guard and Orks, we're getting edged hard.

>>53524932

Admech, just do the entire 2nd Imperial book desu.

>>53524966
You know you want to overcharge that plasma cannon.

>>53524932
AdMech and the general Space Marine overview, Crusaders specifically.

>>53524907
i think someone already posted them, in on the multiple leaks thread.

Pretty much reroll 1 in hits or damage, the classic double shoots, etc.

>>53524926
Basically
>buy our new Death Guard™ Citadel® models with great new characters like the Malignant Plaguecaster™ and Noxious Blightbringer™ if you want to compete with loyalists, chaos goy!

Don't worry, your shit will all get buffed again when the Codexes come out.

Deathwatch!"#%$

>>53524932
Or 3 ways of play leaks, advanced rules

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>>53524970
I got some for you anon.

>>53524932
Guard and AdMech

I say this as a Tyranid player, give those guys some love.

>>53524932
CSM
S
M

>>53524980
>>53524907
Because my friend wanted them and theyre right here.
first row second row fire! all lasguns and high energy lasguns are rapidfire 2 for the target unit

destroy it! reroll to wound rolls of 1 for the target unit

onward for the emperor! the target unit may fire even if it advanced this turn

get a grip! the target unit may fire, even if it disengaged from combat

go go go! instead of firing, the target unit may move as if it is its movement phase. cant assault though

get the bajonett! may only issued to units within 1" of a enemy, the target unit may attack as if it is the close combat phase

guardsmen remained the same basically, can move 6" and are 4 points each.

baneblade variants are t 8 w 26 with 3+ each btw.

>>53524955
I don't think there are any characters with more than 10 wounds that aren't huge.

>>53524928
There were tons, they were in the blood angels leak.

>>53524993

Beautiful, keep them Nids coming please.

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>>53524932
Thanks anon. Also:
>mfw astra militarum leaks never

>>53524953
One of the GW store guys said Conscripts might not even be a thing. We might just have 4 point Guardsmen instead.

>>53524932
Thousand Sons

>>53524838
>Lelith has combat drugs
>The most straight edge character in 40k

>>53524955
It represents how physically large the character is. Characters can no longer hide in units, so if that rule wasn't in there they'd all die instantly.

>>53524982
GW releasing army books with all of chaos in it, then a full CSM codex, what?

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>>53524686
Well...there's a question. Do I run my Howling Banshees as Wyches or something so I can stick them in their Raider, or do I count the Raider as a Wave Serpent instead?

>>53525007
>>53514615

>>53525007
Nids have their own thread, nearly all of it is leaked now

>>53525000
>destroy it! reroll to wound rolls of 1 for the target unit

God Bless you, it is appreciated.

That was actually very reassuring. Bayonet is going to be the tits.

Thanks anon. Any further info is awesome as well.

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>>53525007

>>53524932
would you mind getting a photo of just rough riders real fast? i want to start modelling tonight... and i need that juicy info

>>53525014
That would ruin Guard forever, and I would legitimately sell all my shit.

>>53525024
More like, releasing the Index with all the shit in it, then releasing Death Guard with their own book, then World Eaters with their own book, then Emp's Children with their own book, and so on. Probably at some point there will be a non-Cult Legions Index that will give more love to everyone else.

>>53525032
Just regurgitating stuff from last thread, im just gonna wait for the full CSM codex to release before i care. Otherwise im waiting for FW for Traitor Guard or IG stuff for my bud.

Scanon, tell me. Are Scions shit? Are taurox shit? I need to know.

>>53525018
Yeah, they are pretty much throwing all the old lore out off the window and keeping just the names and labels.

>>53524907
aim! reroll to hit rolls of 1 for the target unit

first row second row fire! all lasguns and high energy lasguns are rapidfire 2 for the target unit

destroy it! reroll to wound rolls of 1 for the target unit

onward for the emperor! the target unit may fire even if it advanced this turn

get a grip! the target unit may fire, even if it disengaged from combat

go go go! instead of firing, the target unit may move as if it is its movement phase. cant assault though

Fix bayonets! may only issued to units within 1" of a enemy, the target unit may attack as if it is the close combat phase

>>53524770
And its the 3rd time we've seen the Tau stuff

>>53524965
I don't think models effect themselves with their auras.

>>53525024
First two codexes are Codex: Primaris and Codex: Death Guard
Codex: CSM will have to wait until Codex: World Eaters and Codex: Emperor's Children come out
>and GW introduces new vanilla CSM sculpts

>>53524966
POST SAMMAEL RULES

>>53525043
He's probably a dummy though. I mean they basically kept Vets the same and regular Guardsmen are the sameish. I bet Conscripts will just be 3 points like now. 2 would be way too cheap.

>>53525059
Depends on the reading of the rule.

My reading is EVERY model within that range... well that model is within that range by default. If the line starts at 0, and you are at 0, you are on the line.

This is the problem with their new rules. They made them so short, they haven't got room to explain shit.

>>53524534
Haven't played 40k since the early days of 6th edition, when my eldar suddenly became stupidly good and very boring to play.

Does the new edition look fun? I'm pretty put off by all the giant mechs and tonka truck sized crap that seems to be floating around, but this reboot has me considering playing again.

Is it worth it, /tg? Or will it be like every other time, where playing 40k just reminds me why I don't play 40k.

>>53524732
Report it to the department of Labor for maximum assrape,

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>>53525073

>>53525047
I TOLD YOU NON-CULT LEGIONS WERE FUCKED HARDER THAN SLANESH'S ASSHOLE

At least my Deldar or CSM debate has been solidly decided.

>>53525063

Word Bearers player here.

I want to see the Possessed rules. Are they really as bad as they say?

>>53525032
Yeah honestly orderd looks pretty good for something that pass automatically, that good anon forgot the 'Aim!' order which let you reroll to hits 1s for those Plasma Veterans.

And if IG tank commanders are still a thing i want to belive they have pretty similar orders.

>>53524932
Dark Angels or Space pups please anon

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>>53525073

>>53524626
That reminds me, do we know how ATSKNF works yet?

>>53525026
As much as I hated what eldar got up to in 7ed, I really don't like how gw is stripping so much flavour from the armies this edition. We're all going to be playing like marines. I guess chess is perfectly balanced. Oh wait, no, first turn.

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>>53524565
YOU TAKE THAT BACK

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>>53525073

>>53525091
from the text leaker, no pics yet
>>53520948
>possessed move 7" have basically the same profile, WS bs 3+ S5 t 4 d3 attacks though but with s user ap -2 and dmg 1 also a 5++

>>53525097
Reroll morale.

>>53525097
Reroll morale checks.

>>53524933
Hmm, I see. I thought it went:
- declare targets
- resolve shooting
So you'd declare both the guardsman and the RoboG, resolve the Guardsman, can now shoot at RoboG. Unless you failed to kill the guardsman, that is.

But then again, if you only have 3 Oblits on the board they'd die to Guilliman anyways, even if you could target him directly. If you have literally ANYTHING else on the table: use it to shoot the Guardman -> use Oblits to shoot at RoboG -> there ya go.
Still, the character non-targetable thing is weird to wrap the head around flom a "realism" perspective.
> 40k is realistic af

Pretty hype to play a Haemonculus Coven list

>>53525086
Thanks man

>>53525079
To be fair, they didn't explain that in the original rules either and had it clarified in a separate entry.

>>53525101
The factions still seem pretty different, Anon.

>>53525074
The theory was conscripts are going to be REALLY low leadership, i.e. 3 or 4, weapon skill ballistic skill possibly 6+. Before Conscripts were almost better than guardsmen because they were a cheaper tarpit, and overwatch made them WAY better.

I stuck 150 conscripts in front of my army every game, and every game, they made their points back in one shooting phase. Stick a priest in there, they become almost good in combat, oh, and fearless.

>>53525086

>be Sammael
>supercharge plasma cannon
>it misfires
>total the last remaining Imperial jetbike

>>53525097
Re-roll Morale.

Which is hilarious because you could end up rolling worse the second time and losing MORE Marines to running the fuck away, due to a rule called "Know No Fear"

I don't have enough sides left after tonight to survive tomorrow's leaks.

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>>53524849

Shields are so cheap now. I can easily see every Crisis suit with a shield generator now.

>>53524574
Having just played a game of 8th edition with my friend, you can solve this problem entirely by the following
> Put 6 squads in Rhinos on the board
> Charge the rhinos on turn 1
> Laugh as your opponent now can't shoot them
> Disembark and charge out of the rhinos on turn 2.

Is anyone working on a Deldar PDF?

>>53525110
That's not that bad

>>53525073
Stop responding to these people. If the rules are already up, let them find them for themselves. They can read through threads without you guys wasting the image limit.
>>53525086
>>53525096
>>53525108

>>53525115
The idea is that it's hard to pick a single dude out from among many.

>>53524926
If you think Kharn and the Berzerkers are bad you cannot fucking read and I pity you.

>>53525101
It's just for now. The indexes are stopgap. This is exactly how it was when the transition from 2nd edition to third happened and we all had barebones vanilla army lists in the main rulebook while waiting for our individual codexes to drop.

Don't worry, the fancy stuff is coming. Just look at Age of Sigmar for proof.

>>53525136
So I'm assuming you were playing some fictional army that doesn't exist, which is incapable of killing a rhino through overwatch or in combat?

>>53525132
eats up a weapon slot though

>>53525000
>Baneblade
>3+
>T8
Yeah, they're just making a concentrated effort to shit on IG as hard as possible, aren't they? Gotta sell those numarines!

>vital information posted by scanon in the last general

>faggot dick-sucking OP doesn't link the last thread in his post

How is it possible to be this much of an incompetent cock sucker?

>>53525141
So that people are free to post the full Tau set for the 7th time? No thanks

>>53525122
That's hilarious. 450 points for 150 bodies. I only have 30 Conscripts right now, but I was gonna add 20 more.

How often did you win? That seems like it would end up being too clustered for you to get objectives.

>>53525101
It's just kind of weird. Some things are flavorful, but other things aren't. Being open-topped now isn't a benefit to assault units, only to shooting units, but Orks still have all their stuff as open-topped with no real benefits. Vehicle options are gone, Lance weapons do nothing. A lot of things feel like they have one special rule to set themselves apart and very little room for customization.

If there's one saving grace, I think it's that it'll be really easy to homebrew and add stuff into the game, now more than ever.

>>53525152
>just look at Sigmar

So after 3 years well have 5 pimaris space Marine books, and like 2 non-space Marine book's?

>>53525108
>>53525096
>>53525086
>No more fires 2 weapons per turn

damn. Hope Belial is better, he sucked in 7th but was easily the coolest looking HQ for Dark Angels.

>>53525131
Kek. You better recover quick because you're going to need your sides in working condition when the CSM index gets leaked.
>>53525127
Yeah that is pretty gay. It should deal mortal wounds for each roll of 1.
>>53525140
No it's not, but you know the shitposters.

>>53524932
Imperial guard

>>53525164
I dont know? why the fuck are you bitching at me you faggot? Get a fucking hobby or something jesus.

>>53525127
>>total the last remaining Imperial jetbike
Don't worry, they'll find a new one.

Reminder that DA canonically bully their techmarines for swearing an allegiance to mars
DA have rare STCs dating from before the great crusade
They trust their techmarines enough to deal with this incredibly rare knowledge but not enough to ever let one of them into the inner circle

>>53525165

It's in the bottom of his post. I guess I'm the cock sucker. OP is still a faggot for not linking it at the top like everyone else

>>53525163

I can live with that.

>>53525152
Same from 1e to 2e

>>53525110
So essentially, they're marines with extra movement, a 5+ invuln, and d3 power axe attacks (s5 AP -2)?

That seems pretty good. A marine with an axe is 18 anyway, so you're essentially paying 4 points for an invuln save, extra attacks on average, and more movement. Plus you can stick them in a rhino to charge out of

What's the problem here?

>>53525149
What part of less attacks before the ememy swings back do you not understand?

What part of specialist weapon chainaxes do you not understand?

What part of 0 access to FnP, charge bonuses, jump packs and power weapons despite being only 1 point cheaper than Death Company do you not understand?

>>53525152

great, so back to a power curve based off who gets codices first
some armies will wait forever I bet

>>53524867
jesus that's brutal

>>53525181
There's no limit on how many weapons you can fire anymore.

>>53525164
Aren't Knights T8 too?

>>53525168
If you have a movement tray, it becomes silly. When I can stick 50 bodies on an objective and tell my opponent in no unclear terms to "fite me", that's an unbreakable block of 50 chumps who get to re-roll hits or wounds, depending on what's tougher.

They won't let me get away with that in 8th ed.

That list wins, i'd say, about 3 out of 4 games? I only used it in a tournament once and got accused of cheese, even though I got defeated in the quarter final round.

>>53525181
Everyone can fire all their weapons when they shoot now.

>>53525121
Every army is going to be crazy turn 1 alpha strike or bust. All transports now function the same, all deep strike is the same. You're either driving your transports into your opponents lines turn 1, dropping your elites into them, or getting a bullshit move for your horde.
Some stuff seems interesting. Khorne berserkers attacking twice. Firesight marksmen being placed way in the back of the map on ruins for LOS, but so much else feels exactly the same with slightly different numbers.

Anyone got english versions of Necron Character profiles?

I wanna see what my boy Anrakyr is like as well as the asshole cryptek duo Also if they properly buffed the Stormlord. Basically I wanna see everything except the odd couple that already got posted in spanish.

>>53525196
There is none. But some faggots will always find a way to complain.

Plz gib ork bikers, I have 45 off them and need to know if they are in the dumpster.

Scions statline/points please.

>>53525221
Based on what we've seen so far, everything except Ork Boys are dumpster tier.

>>53525198
All trumped by the ability to do combat twice, access to assault vehicles (everything is an assault vehicle), a decent strength value, and the ability to consolidate into melee.

You're making a mountain out of a molehill.

>>53525203
>>53525207
What really? That seems pretty dumb off hand. I'll have to wait and see though, but dont some transports have like 4-6 weapons?

>>53525228
To be fair, boyz are dumpster tier as well.

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>>53524095
I promised someone earlier that I would have a compilation of the ork leaks so here they are. Everything that is in text for came directly from leaker-sama so I would take it as true even though we don't have pictures.

>>53525235
They're at least usable.

>>53525230
That's partly why vehicles cost more now. They can basically shoot everything they have.

>>53525205
Knights are also very mobile, capable in melee, and have an invuln save. Baneblades get 100% cucked by melta weapons if those stats are right, literally no save against D6 damage a pop.

>>53525199
The good news is that points will continue to be updated annually (AT LEAST) so even if you have to wait quite awhile for a Codex update there will still be balance fixes for weak armies.

>>53525230
I dunno why you'd jump straight to transports, who can already shoot all their weapons per turn.

>>53524639
>off the clock
>in-office Warhammer tournament

IT MUST BE DONE!

>>53524617
> Vespid are suddenly AMAZING
Colour me surprised. Maybe tau players will actually start bringing them.

>>53525033
Lol, even monstrous creatures explode now

>>53525243
Green Tide is a gimme rule. It's useful for nothing but foot armies and no one with a brain is running a foot army in 8th with all the deadly shooting.

>>53525230
Everything that multiple weapons before could usually fire everything anyway.

>>53525206
You can basically in 8th. Commissars limit the battleshock losses to 1, so it will be just like 7th except you will lose an extra body a turn. Not so bad.

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GK/Tau leaker here

Ill try to get Astral Militarum and Dark Angels tomorrow, but I cant guarantee Ill be heading in to the store again

>>53525237
thanks yo

>>53525269
I will literally suck your dick for Dark Angels.

>Thousand sons aren't the best since lack of psychic variety and stuff
I'm glad outside of my crons I only have a small force of Tzeentch and Thousand Sons. By the way, how are Tzeentch daemons shaping up to be? At least they get to use the Tzeentch table...

>>53524932
crons

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>kill a synapse beast
>it deaththroes around killing other bugs
>morale kills even more at the end of turn
G-guys...n-n-nids are t-totally tier1 n-now!

>>53525246
The prices might reflect that too. Knights might cost more.

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>>53525229
>All trumped by the ability to do combat twice
Which is only good against ranged units, unlike 4 attacks on the charge which was good against everything.

>access to assault vehicles (everything is an assault vehicle), a decent strength value, and the ability to consolidate into melee.
Irrelevant, all their equivalents get those bonuses too. In the grand scheme of things they are worse than before.

>>53525237
As someone who has 15 lobbas I REALLY like how they work now.

>15d6 shots at BS4+

Stop it.

>>53525269
Could you get pics of the SM HQs? Thanks bro.

>>53525269
you do what you can dude, youre not obligated to do shit, we're grateful for everything

>>53525263
I had no idea commissars did that. That might make them a better choice than priests to lead them. Depends on the rules and how available they are of course.

>>53525269
Leakbro please, any word on Crusader Squads? Are they just tacticals + scouts? I must know.

>>53525164

Literally better than a knight

>>53525196
>What's the problem here?

Random attacks on an expensive elite melee unit.

And personally there is no 'wow' factor.
If possessed could lash out upon death for a couple mortal wounds, or sixes to wound dealt mortal wounds or something they would have that 'elite' feel

Just yet another edition of possessed being "meh, fuck it i'll field them i guess, converting them is kinda fun..?" rather than the "These thing will give me the edge..i want them!" they should be. So CSM players continue to ignore them forever

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>>53524617
WTF Vespid are good now?

>>53525246
You need something like 17 BS 3+ models with melta firing at half range with the melta bonus to kill a T8 26 Wound model in one round.

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>>53525263
>Commissars limit the battleshock losses to 1

Holy shit it actually works that way ?

>tfw I said people comissars would limit battleshock losses to 1 model weeks before the index leaks

>>53525249

I wonder how long if will take for the codices
And which order they'll release in. I imagine smurfs very first and foremost obviously

>>53525294
What are you talking about? Lobbas only exist on battlewagons now.

>>53525269
thanks based leaker

>>53525290
So Zerkers are bad because they aren't killing things that are twice their points value and also dedicated assault? No. Zerkers are strong because you can deliver them to squishy targets and they can cut through them much faster than before. They are better at what you want them to be doing. Just because they're not going to murder a squad of terminators reliably doesn't make them bad.

>>53525259
>all the deadly shooting
>blast weapons got cucked so hard you might as well not take them
>most of the "deadly shooting" is a mortal wound here and there, deadly to elites but laughable to hordes
We are literally the most horde/swarm edition there has ever been now.

>>53524932
Gsc

>>53525301
>you do what you can dude, youre not obligated to do shit, we're grateful for everything
this is the correct attitude to have

theres too many entitled fucks in these threads

>>53525305
Literally almost double the cost of a knight unless they took a HUGE price cut.

>>53525317
>whybotherifIcan'tkillitinoneroundmeme.jpg

>>53525321
They;ve split them into Mek Gunz and Big Gunz.

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>>53524637
Sorry for shit quality.

>>53525269
How about CSM, bro?

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So, Custodes. Everyone but the Shield Captain lost a BS. We can't deep strike anymore. We can't block attacks anymore. Our iconic Spear loadout is more expensive than before.

What did the banana men ever do to you, GWs? Did we threaten the bestestness of the Primaris Marines?

>>53525335
Can someone for the love of God please just leak the points lists so we can understand whether Orks are shit.
>>53525334
Let's hope so, I haven't heard anything about a big gunz unit or its stats.

>>53525334
No shit?

>>53525278
Par for the course for DA.

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>>53525288
>any good nid player leaving their own valuable guys within 3" of something that death throes
>implying I won't have an unbreakable synapse network with all these 20 point Warriors that can't be insta-deathed
>implying half my shit won't be in melee with you turn 2 and when they eventually start dying they're doing mortal wounds to your guys from death throes instead of mine
Fucking kek

>>53525357
A stompa is supposedly 900 points, and look at its profile.

Yes, they're overpointed and shit.

hoping someone can help me out- trying to find a picture of an conversion army someone did. I want to say it was Eldar, and it made their helmets look like squids, kind of like illithids. I can't seem to find it any where. Any grea/tg/uy remember what I'm talking about?

>>53525368
What do you think it means to be a part of the inner circle? You think we're playing over here?

>>53525329

It's almost like GW wants people to play armies that require 100+ models

>>53525333

Considering knights are 420-500 points now, it's not out of the question

>>53525381

It's main gun is also lack luster now isn't it?

It's functionally only good for a very durable transport given none of it's shooting is worth a crud and it's melee isn't extremely stellar.

>>53525269
thanks a lot. doing gods work.

>>53525366
>>53525357
Only hearsay but we've already been told that EVERY model in the army is getting stats so that's what I assume is happening. Nothing is getting squatted on release.

>>53525399
a 900 point transport

think about what you said there anon

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>>53524758
nice work anon

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>>53525384
Sure it wasn't just Lokhir Fellheart?

>>53525381
>supposedly
that's why I want to know. the power level is a little under two knights, so it would be weird if its points cost were over two knights.

>>53524682
Illegal. Sue them for back pay and don't quit and sue them for wrongful termination if they fire you for suing them.

>>53524932
Csm

>>53525328
Berzerkers are an ELITE melee superiority unit. If I wanted to krump squishy hordes I'd field fucking Raptors. They ate alive two companies worth of Death Company in Traitor's Hate fluff. They SHOULD by all means be able to take them on in the table.

Read the fluff before defending this atrocious edition you fucking shill.

>>53525350

Dude primarines fucking suck now that we know their cost

>>53525417
yeah, it was a whole bunch of squads done up. May have been DE, IDK. They were made to look organic, it wasn't a helmet.

>>53525410

That is the best use I can think of for one now based on the information we have at the moment.

What else does it really bring to the table aside from Effigy, assuming it still has that?

>>53524699
I haven't seen a single leak that confirms this. Is there any elder leaks?

Anyone else notice. Bright/dark lances are just shit lascannons now?

>>53525433
>trusting the fluff
No wonder you ended up like this, heretic.

>>53525235
They cost the same number of points but are significantly improved. +1 to hit and wound against MEQs, mob rule, run and assault with rerollable charge distance, and free shootas. Plus the changes to the core rules in regards to removal of initiative, swinging first on the charge, and hidden PKs making a comeback all benefit Orks more than most factions.
I'm feeling pretty positive about Orks in 8th edition.

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>>53524974
>He says that like it's a bad thing

Does anyone have more info about Killa Kans? All I read in last thread was that they got a bit better.

>>53525433
>This unit isn't doing what I personally want it to so it's fucking awful
Lol okay dude. I can see a use for the unit, it'll krump squishies much faster and harder than Raptors will. Raptors are intended to be harriers, for whittling shit down. Zerkers that charge shit like Fire Warriors are going to have a great time and earn their points back real quick.

>>53525465
Where have you seen points values? Also the option to take a shoota on their profile does not suggest that the shoota is free. All weapons pts values are listed separately from the unit profile now.

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>>53525451
>imperialfag desperately shilling for chaos always being worse versions of loyalists
>gets told
>instantly resorts to shitposting
Like clockwork.

Why Is everyone posting tau so much and yet no mechanicum?

>Hammerhand : gives one GK unit a buff that adds +1 to all to wound rolls in melee

... Does that mean that when you would normally need a 2+ you now autowound ? That would be kinda nuts.

>>53525496
>This unit isn't doing what I personally want it to so it's fucking awful
They were literally doing it in 8th faggot. Now they can't.

You don't even play CSM do you?

>>53525505
1s always fail.

>>53525493
see >>53525237. that's what we've got

>>53525515
Except they still can, because you can get MORE attacks now, not less, AND Chainaxes are better than they were

>>53524824
SCANS PLS!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww-mnQiqQXA

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The points for orks are literally the lynchpin showing us if theyre shit or ok and still everyone refuses to post them in lieu of reposting the tau pages again and again like retards

Im fucking mad

>>53525515
Zerks were a shit unit in 7th, now they have a purpose.