Song of Swords: FOLDED ONE THOUSAND TIMES edition

>>53510543
Since Ballad has morphed into a multi-way cold war set in the space-40s, can we hear more about the various intelligence agencies of the major players aside from the UC which we already know a bit about?

Perfidious Space-Albion presumably has a first rate secret service and SOE-analogue but who do they favour in the looming struggle between the Crown and the Plutocrats?

We know that Chiron is doing a hell of a lot better than Abwehr and have a hateboner for the UC so they probably have at least some basic competence at counter-espionage. How is their intelligence-gathering, or are foreign ops mostly sabotage and gunning down streets of civilians in enemy capitals?

The Hive are the scary commies of the setting, but cold war China didn't exactly have a reputation for spying excellence and Maoism by way of Chairman Yang probably doesn't generate foreign sympathisers in the same way M-L did for the USSR. How is the Space-MSS doing compared to the other factions and is there the same fear of communists lurking in ones soup without the NKVD around?

That's it. I'm sick of all this "Masterwork Riddle of Steel" bullshit that's going on in the /tg/ board right now. Song of Swords deserves much better than that. Much, much better than that.
I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine sword on Kickstarter for $149 USD (that's enough to feed a family for a year in most of the world) and have been waiting for it for almost 2 years now. I can even cut slabs of solid steel with my patience.

Californian catamites spent years working on a single subsystem and rework it up to a million times to produce the finest elves known to mankind.

Song of Swords is thrice as realistic as d20 games and thrice as fun for that matter too. Anything setting D&D can run, Jimmy Rome can run way better. I'm pretty sure a Song of Swords could easily run someone failing to bisect bisect a knight wearing full plate with a simple vertical slash.

Ever wonder why medieval Europe never bothered conquering Japan? That's right, it's because Jimmy never wrote the splat for Japan. Even in Ballad of the Laser Whales, Rahoo soldiers target the men with the tar first because their simulationist rule of cool was feared and respected.

So what am I saying? Song of Swords is simply the best system that the world has ever seen, and thus, requires a better editor in than the 4chan boards. Here is the publication list I propose for this year:

(Core Book)
355 pages
1273 weapons
38 wound tables
97 different numbers to track per character
Counts as Masterwork

(Monster Manual)
Only the greatest monster of all: Man
Counts as Masterwork

(DM's Guide)
Three books stapled together:
A world history textbook
A reproduction of George Silver's Brief Instructions
Slobodijada (untranslated)
Counts as Masterwork

Now that seems a lot more representative of the simulative accuracy of SoS in real life, don't you think?

tl;dr = SoS needs to hit the markets with more vigor, see my new publication list.

Jimmy for Tuesday can we have dragon lore?

>>53510543
>FOLDED ONE THOUSAND TIMES
...I just realized. the confusion with katanas and the "1000 folds"...

how many times to you have to fold something to get 1000+ layers? especially if you started with more than one layer at the outset.

lost in translation a shit...

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>>53514653
breddy gud

>>53513023
Was that a real struggle, the plutocrats vs the crown? Who won historically?

>>53518943
I mean, you could interpret the English Civil War that way if you were so inclined. And the matter of crown authority was settled in a fairly spectacular manner with the execution of Charles I for treason. And even under the restored monarchy Parliament was firmly in control of actually running things, which was roundly demonstrated in the Glorious Revolution a few generations later in which Parliament made it plain that it even got to choose who the monarch was once it was clear the current one was far too Catholic by half.

That all happened in the 17thC though, so this brewing civil war in the void is a tad anachronistic. A populist young queen is squaring off against a corrupt political establishment.

Quite how this all works with Albish history or the military/political structure of a 20thC British Empire in space is not yet clear.

>>53518943
Well Pluto isn't a planet anymore so you tell me.

>>53519971
>Pluto isn't real name of a god
>Pluto isn't a real planet
Really makes you think

>>53513023
Well it sort of boils down to this. The three primary intelligence services at this point are:

Albion's RIS, the Chironic Abwehr, and the UCUC's Intelligence Wing.

The RIS were the dominant intelligence agency leading up to and during the war, but have lost a lot of their network in the aftermath of their defeat. The service is still the most extensive in the world, reaching into nearly every country, but they must now contend with growing agencies in hostile countries. The group is presently divided into three factions: The Lions, the Unicorns, and the Crows, each of whom blames a different part of the government for the loss of the war, and who are tacitly working against each other to try and bring about reform in their direction.
The Lions want a return of power to the Monarchy.
The Unicorns blame the Crown, and want the Monarchy dissolved.
The Crows blame both, and are more or less crypto-Socialists.
Presently the group as a whole is fighting a desperate struggle in Arlon and its colonies to try and prevent Chiron's influence from extending further. They've regularly outwitted their rivals thusfar, but the prognosis is grim as the nation is simply running out of allies.

The Abwehr was purged twice before the war, first at Sternfleischer's insistence, and then again at Richtofen's. The second time, one of Richtofen's inner circle, an occultist by the name of Olga Boden, was responsible for uncovering disloyalties in the organization. She now runs the Abwehr. Boden discarded the scientific methods of espionage preferred by her predecessors and adopted a cult-like structure divided into what are essentially covens of witches. Voidborne mystics are a common sight in the group. They combine unconventional methods of espionage (so-called "remote viewing") and a very competent network of field agents. The armed wing of the organization is the Kadenburg Gruppe, led by the "Father of Kommandos," Kato Lundstadt.

>>53520047
>The three primary intelligence services at this point are
Are these just the largest, or do the other nations not have well-organized, bureaucratic intelligence services yet?

>>53520128
I remember Haramoto Is that the spelling? has something called the Chrysanthemum Room.

>>53520047
>realise that you have a spy agency staffed entirely by traitors and morons
>replace the whole thing with a cabal of SS-witches with a guest appearance by Otto Skorzeny

I love it Jimmy, cheers for the lore nuggets

>>53520128
They're not necessarily the largest, but the ones with the most reach. The Hive also has a huge intelligence apparatus, but most of it is contained to its own sphere of influence and counter-espionage.

The RoR, and surprisingly the Desotians also have very well developed intelligence agencies, but they again are limited largely to their own spheres of influence.
Arloni Intelligence had to go underground after the war, and is more functioning as a criminal syndicate with nationalist leanings than a real intelligence service these days, attempting to insinuate itself into the provisional government so that it can potentially affect a revolution in the event that Chiron is weakened sufficiently to make such a thing tenable.

The Big 3 have the furthest reach. Most of the actual fighting occurring right now is between the armed wings of these groups. The RIS's field agents are known for their fanciful gadgets and high degrees of professionalism, the Abwehr's Kommandos are known for their witchcraft and efficiency, and the UCUC's kill-teams are known for their ability to blend in to hostile environments, and their impressive use of the local population aid and conceal their agents.

Famously, the heads of the UCUC and the Kadenburg Gruppe, Pablo LaMadrona and Kato Lundstadt, were both students of "Elf Judo" under Die Lowen, and grew to hate each other even then. There is great animosity between those two groups, intensified by national rivalries. The Albish try to take advantage of this whenever they can, by pinning operations against one on the other, in the hopes of inciting further conflicts. This generally works.

>>53514653
Top tier

>>53520994
>The Albish try to take advantage of this whenever they can, by pinning operations against one on the other, in the hopes of inciting further conflicts. This generally works.
Nothing like slapping a dudes girlfriend on the ass, and convincing him that it was the trucker across the street.

>>53520994
What happens to half elves that fail out of the breeding program in Helion, or that otherwise commit some crime or transgression?

Jimmy, any input?

>>53504487

>>53527249
Can't argue with that

>>53525002
Hybernia has not yet escaped its relationship with Albion, but some argue that it is close. There are presently no fewer than four HLAs (Hybernian Liberation Armies) who collaborate loosely but represent different ideological goals--also also some of whom frankly hate each other. The two major groups are colloquially known as the Blue and Red Toories, known for the pom-poms on the berets worn by fans at the football clubs from which the groups evolved.

The Blues are a quasi-fascist organization that believes in a pure, Orthodox Hybernian society and the expulsion of all foreign influences and religions. The fact that the Chironites are arming and equipping them is the worst kept secret in the Core Islands.

The Reds are an Anarchist movement, intent on creating a stateless, classless society run by Worker's Unions. They're very militant, but they don't have much support because the UC considers them a lost cause. Nevertheless they produce their own weapons locally, and have stolen arms from other groups before.

The other two, the Northern HLA is simply a Republican movement that desires that Hybernia be freed to exist as its own democratic Republic, and the other group wants the same thing, but with religious overtones of Orthodoxy.

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Venezuelan shot by automatic rubber bullet fire.

>>53527706
>they don't have much support
I assume from context that you mean foreign support. What kind of domestic support do they have?

And what color pom poms do the republican groups wear?

>>53527706
Isn't Hybernia Scotland or are all the Gaelic people one?

>>53528551
Jimmy doesn't really know enough about the bullshit of inferior races to make them meaningfully distinct anyway.

>>53528551
I'm pretty sure it was Ireland, that's going to be really embarrassing if I got it wrong.

>>53528881
>>53528551
Google says Ireland.

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>>53520047
>the Crows are crypto-socialists
Well Corvids have never led me astray before and are the most intelligent of the three animals so I guess I trust them

>>53528443
Looks like he's all set to be The Pain

>>53528443
Now I feel bad for shooting all those VDV guys in the head with the rubber bullet FAL in MGSV.

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>>53520994
>Ballad's version of James Bond will be a fucking judo wuxia film

Fucking hype

>>53516123
ten times
2^10=1024

>>53530623
also at ~24 folds you have more layers than atoms if your blade is 5mm thick

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>>53530123
I DON'T

>>53527706
>four(4) times the amount flying columns
Glorious.

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Are ya winnin' son

How much extra bleed and pain would a sawtoothed sword cause? Like a steak knife made arming sword.

>>53534864
None, overall. They would cause scary looking wounds which aren't as bad as clean deep wounds in reality.

>>53534864
I'mm sure the difference is really appreciable when compared to being stabbed regularly aside from maybe +3 bleed on all wound below LV3

>>53533454
Context?

>>53537231
Comic is called Irredeemable. From memory it's superman goes nuts and kills everyone: the series. Apparently it's pretty good

>>53538018
It has that "bad guy whispers some stupid bullshit in peoples ears" thing, I do not believe you.

>>53538239
But he's the hero, can't you read?

>>53538491
What's her saving her from?

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Bump for Burdinadin Magitech

>>53539694
The terrible pain of parenthood.

>>53534864
None.

>>53539754
>>53539754
>posting worst elves

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>>53543014
>Burdinadin
>Worst Elves
>When Orredin exist
You get right the fuck out of here scum

>>53530314
>>53520994
Skorzeny makes sense, but who is the Hispanic sounding fellow supposed to be?

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>>53548554
What, Die Lowen? She's the sole Ohanedin and in the Void and christ alive it's probably hell. Think about it, almost everything is metal and technology. They have fucking ham radio. The place must have so little spirit it's like walking through fire at all times, or in the middle of a goddamn Glade.

>>53548897
I think he means Pablo, not Die Lowen.

>>53548996
Oh, he's new. Some UCUCIW bigshot from the sound of it

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>>53548897
Christ's Sake

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>>53549523
Your cuirass likes what it sees, even if you don't McMullet and I'm inclined to trust it more than you. Remember, vote Chiron

>>53549606
>Remember, vote Chiron
16 years later at Space-Nuremberg...

"What made a man of your calibre and excellent fashion sense become a collaborator supporting faschist atrocities McMullet?"

"I tried to resist but a couple of anime girls told me to"

"The prosecution rests and suggests death by hanging"

IMPROVED SHOOTING RULES FOR BALLAD


So, as many of you probably know, the shooting rules of Ballad is woefully inadequate. Fear not, however, as I, anon, has come here to save the day!


First of all, every gun has a base TN of 7. This can be modified in two ways. The Longshot special increases TN by 1 if you shoot without aiming first, while bracing decreases TN by 1. (It also does something more that im gonna reveal soon)


Regular shooting stays the same.


Burst Fire and Fully Automatic fire is merged together into automatic fire:


Automatic Fire: Lets you shoot up to as many bullets as your gun allows down range at the enemy. Every bullet you fire that phase gives you a +1 to hit, and each BS causes an additional hit, up to the amount of times you fired. However this effect is dampened with the new recoil rules that im gonna show you very soon. You can aim with auto fire. You have to shoot atleast 3 times in a phase.


Suppressive fire is the same, but you gain additional dice equal to x(ROF)/(x(meters covered)*2). This means that covering a small area increases the chance of hitting anyone caught within that area.


Recoil


Every gun that isnt bolt action now has a recoil special, that looks like this: Recoil [x]


Recoil determines how many shots can be fired per round in full auto without increasing TN. If a gun has recoil [2] shooting it 3 or 4 times in auto fire the TN increases by +1. At 5th and 6th shot the TN increases to +2 and so on. (TN cant go over 10).

Recoil can be modified several ways. Bracing increases Recoil by *2 (Recoil [2] turns into Recoil [4]. Using a Bipod automaticly braces, and increases recoil by *5 (Recoil [2] turns into recoil [4] because bracing and then turns into Recoil [20] because of bipod). Using a tripod makes you ignore recoil entirely, but it takes several turns setting up or disassemble.


In order to make automatic fire more viable at higher levels you could also add new talents for recoil control.

>>53549769
If anyone is wondering how this plays out ingame im probably gonna do a small fetch for it in discord.

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>>53549676
A pair of anime girls who own many, many tanks including Panzer III's, Elefants, Jagdtigers and Panzer VIII Maus'. There's no shame here. Also Chiron did nothing wrong. I bathe in Babel Tar every day, best day of my life

>>53549769
Anon, this is kind of terrible.

>>53550051
Not him, but how so? I rather like the recoil Stat.

>>53550069
It's absolutely hideously overcomplicated. Suppressive fire being x(ROF)/(x(meters covered)*2) in additional dice especially. This is the sort of equation that people think happens in GURPS.

Recoil as a system is a good idea, but this particular system is also hideously overcomplicated. You have to be able to adjust the Recoil value by multiplication on the fly, which means your rolls change every round. Dynamic changes in TNs especially are awful. It's far too unwieldy to bolt this onto an already fairly complicated system,. A simpler system would be giving a bonus to hit based on RoF but requiring more BSs for bonus hits depending on recoil.

Making weapons have TN7 automatically removes one of the few ways in which guns can be meaningfully differentiated, especially between classes of firearms.

Rather than firing off a bunch of ideas at random, anon needs to sit down and figure out what his actual problems with the Ballad system are. What does he dislike about it? He's the first I've seen to criticize the system as a whole rather than just a lack of recoil, and in fact I've seen more people praise it than dislike it.

Start with a goal, not with rules.

>>53549769
So, GURPS, but worse.

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>>53533454
monthly reminder

>>53510543
>dice pool
Into the trash it goes.

>>53550503
Cool.

>>53550480
Christ I wonder how many people recognise all of this image

>>53550503
Into the trash you go

For Japanese armor should I just go with standard/leather lamellar or iron plate?

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>>53553583
Depends on the armour in question. Generally for an O-Yoroi use Lamellar. A Hotoke Dou is likely just an Iron Plate Cuirass

>>53553679
Gotcha, thanks

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No new pictures of violence fro Venezuela so here's one finishing putting on her anti-pepper spray gear.

>>53555051
Thanks for keeping us informed.

Which version of the game should I use to play right now if I want to generate constructive feedback?

>>53556237
1.3, I think. The one on the sos homepage . . . which is not linked in the op. http://www.songofswords.net/

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>>53555051
This revolution tickles my boner.

>>53551085
Its so dense, every pixel has so much going on.

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>>53557652
Have another then. Those tops are popular because of the colors.

>>53550503
Blow off, choffer.

Anyone seen the Dark Souls tabletop? Ideas worth lifting?

>>53557662
It's like pottery it rinds

Yo jimmy, the Unkindly speed blessing says it gives you access to the Stains of Time as per the Burdinidin racial trait. Does that stack with the Feeling Dissapears, the Ohanedin racial trait?

>>53560105
Yes.

does anyone have that sword balance point calculator to hand?

>>53560033
Which one? The one that tried to be a 1:1 recreation of the game mechanics?

>>53557698
>Sexy revolutionary latinas being posted on the internet
Truly the best timeline.

>>53560427
Jesus Christ.

>>53560427
don't lie to me rome

>>53556237
>>53556291
Just be careful with starting stats, it's not fully explained.

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>>53557698
>>53555051
>You will never sleep with a muscled Venezuelan revolutionary

>>53569028
You just need to travel there and overthrow the government. Infinite Venezuelan revolutionaries at your fingertips then. After that, it's all up to your natural charm and charisma to win one of theirs heart too. Just do it.

>>53569058
I'd do it. Women love freedom fighters rite? Tbqh I'm surprised the CIA isn't off giving them all guns and stuff, you'd think screwing with a commie's legacy would be big on the to-do list. I guess they've got other stuff going on.

I'd play a Ballad campaign set in a struggling south american country famalam, it'd be great.

Does anyone have that screencap of the Balkan Peasant Simulator?

>>53560536
https://subcaelo.net/ensis/dynamics-computer/ I found it

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Thinking about getting The Flower of Battle for TRoS printed somewhere.
Hardcover, with linen would cost ~34€ without embossing the Title and ~57€ with.
Might do that for all important TRoS books. So three supplements and then maybe the corebook as well (only maybe, because I got an original one already; but I think it'd be nice to have them all in linen and such).

So, yeah.
bump

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Tell me about Ballad Jimmy

Man insults eggs in Discord, is banned for life.
More news at 11.

>>53576374
Is that supposed to be a yolk?

>>53577749
Do not pun. This is your final warning. You're walking on egg-shells, buddy.

>>53577776
Ban me then sonny, or are you chicken?

>>53577918
fuck off you cluck

>>53578362
Quit hen-pecking him.

>>53580427
I suspect fowl play, but am remaining cautious in case it's just a cock up

>>53575651
One of the Desotian constituent states, New Belcester, did not take kindly to the White Rahoo Decree of 2088, which forced them to expel their black slaves in the aftermath of the Zaabi rebellion. Irritated at what they perceived as an attack on their way of life, the "Cesterites" refused to move on and simply abolish slavery. Instead, they used the reimbursement they had been given to acquire a large number of hapless white immigrants--mostly Hybernians and criminals of Ximbri and Albish stock--and enslaved them instead. They, and several other states, retain slavery to the present day.

Presently New Belcester is run in an almost Spartan fashion, with the small overclass ruling over their mass of enslaved workers. This arrangement is only really workable because the elite have dedicated themselves wholly to martial pursuits, for lack of anything better to do. Each household is expected to own a fighter plane*, painted in the family's colors, and someone is expected to fly it in the event that the slaves revolt anywhere on the islands. Every free man undergoes military training starting at a fairly early age, so that he can retain control of and defend his family's holdings.

New Belcester is held up almost single handedly as proof that Desotian Federalism was a terrible idea by several other countries, but attempting to interfere in Desotian member-state politics always causes them to close ranks, so nothing can be done. The Desotians themselves tolerate Belcester because A) They don't care, and B) New Belcester is the only member state that actually provides its quota of troops every time there's a war.
* (At this point mostly surplus F-10s, which Bazzock and Holy Author mass-produced expecting that CWII would last 10 years, and that they'd be able to sell them at huge profits to the impoverished nations on both sides, only to be forced to sell them at a loss to any buyer after the war ended too quickly)

>>53580699
>Trying to run a farm with Irish slaves
It's like they WANT to starve.

>>53580699
Where do they get the fuel and maintenance for that? Planes require a lot of labor.

>>53582102
Slaves, obviously. Slave mechanics taught to keep their planes up and running.

No, nothing can possibly go wrong with this setup.

>>53582102
There's a sort of middle class between the slaves and the land-owners, who fill in the gaps and provide the actual goods and services too complex for slave labor. However, for maintenance, anyone who lives in a Belcester household will eventually learn how to maintain the vehicle just through osmosis. A pilot might have a group of siblings and cousins to act as his flight crew, or, as >>53582183 suggested, might have talented slaves to do it, with the promise of freedom or a raise in rank if they keep his machine running well until the end of the campaign.

Obviously there are stories of disgruntled slaves setting their masters up for failure, of course, but many slaves in the position to do so are too dazzled by the many privileges afforded them in military life to be thinking of revenge.

>>53580699
What's an F-10?

>>53582426
The most mass-produced Fighter/Bomber in the Void. Produced by Whitefaun Industries, it was built according to advice sent home by military observers on both sides of CWII to the Rahoo War Office in the RoR. They developed a list of criterion, including heavy armor, high speed, at least six .30 caliber machineguns, and a bomb load of no less than 800 kilograms.

What they got was a fighter-bomber with heavy armor, a powerful engine, eight 12.7mm machineguns, and a 1200 kg bomb load, two months before the deadline and almost a quarter of a million doubloons under budget. The F10 Broadsword was put into mass production anticipating an extended land war where interceptor aircraft and ground attackers would both be in huge demand--making it convenient that the F10 could serve as both.

Regrettably Chiron won too quickly, and the scheme fell apart. With tens of thousands of the aircraft sitting around doing nothing, the desperate Bazzock Trading Collective simply sold them off at cost to anyone who wanted them, including their own enemies. Surprisingly they actually sold out, and upon adjusting their methods and prices, continued production. The market for fighter-bombers is greater than ever before. Why? Who knows?

>>53582547
New dogfight rules when

Don't tell me Riddle isn't perfect for it

>>53583352
I've already written some, but we're sort of busy with SoS at the moment to finish them.

>>53582547
so it's a P47. They made tens of thousands of P47s, and then sold them on the open market. The 50s are going to be pretty fun if nobody comes up with jets.

>>53584017
Can't be a P-47; the P-47 was a high altitude air superiority fighter that just happened to have the engine and wing strength to be a good ground strike plane *after* air superiority had been secured. It was never designed from the get-go as a fighter/bomber.

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>>53528443
I am extremely sceptical of that image caption.

the fact there's somewhere close to 100 wound points spread over the body is far more than any conventional firearm would contain, and far more than any human would stay stood up for, I believe its far more likely this is a single shot of light-weight (no.6 or lighter) birdshot from a 10-12ga shotgun.

pic related - birdshot injury from longer range.

>>53585119
The caption is what someone on the ground thought it was, but these people aren't necessarily educated in firearms or wounds. Birdshot is a possibility, though also, I believe, a fairly significant human rights violation. Not like those haven't been going around anyway though.

>>53580699
>the White Rahoo Decree of 2088
Could you tell us more about this?

Also,
>2088
What's the default current year for Ballad then? 2150 or so?

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What the hell has been going on on the Ballad wiki? Why is the Wanted Pages full of this bullshit?

>>53585119
It could have been a few things:

1: A stun grenade with rubber pellets

2: Several people with rubber bullets firing

3: A shotgun with non-lethal shot. Beanbags sometimes rupture, causing a spray of less-penetrating rubber balls.

>>53570755
?

>>53585969
>A shotgun with non-lethal shot

This is my guess. Either what you said, or perhaps a few stingball shells.

>>53584942
It was more intended from the start to be an explicitly multi-purpose fighter/ground attack plane, but the P47 isn't a bad guess, given that we're limited to American planes.

>>53585328
The current year is 2145.

The White Rahoo Decree was an order issued by the Desotian Federal Government (one of the few that reached the 3/4ths majority required to actually pass that mandated the expulsion of all persons not "white, free from birth, and of good character" from the country.

The order, explicitly racist, caused a major upheaval among many states, both because it necessitated the expulsion of black slaves, and also of free men who happened to not be white enough to reach the criterion of the bill, but it was ultimately enforced because of joint support it held between various aisles.

It was passed in reaction to the Zaabi uprising, where the former slaves of several colonies rose up and slaughtered their masters, overtaking the territory that is now the Free Zaabi Republic. Fearing a similar outcome the Desotians took the nuclear option and expelled everyone who wasn't white from the country. The act was backed by progressives because they assumed it would end slavery in certain provinces that still practiced it, but they underestimated the hunger of those states for cheap labor. Thus they began enslaving white people (usually under the pretense of penal servitude etc) resulting in states like New Belcester.

>>53586013
>>53586013
It was a screencap of a thread asking what do if a noble adventurer showed up at your house and one of the first responses was run off his horse because the character's husband got feathered by the Turks and the Sorghum won't harvest itself. Pretty great, but can't find it anywhere.

>>53587614
Wait, if they have to be free from birth, how do enslaved whites work?

>>53585408
>2017 King Cup
Well /tg/ qualified so that's good enough for me

>>53589718
How do enslaved blacks work? You go find a weaker man and cleave him to you and make him stay under fear of death and turn him into property

>>53589718
"penal servitude" is a hell of a drug.

>>53585119
What's the difference between bird and buck, are the balls just bigger?

>>53592161
Birdshot is intended to scatter a lot of small pellets in the air to hit birds without the shooter needing to be perfectly accurate. Buck is intended to hit a deer multiple times, but the pellets are larger to do more damage, and to hit in multiple places to increase the odds of hitting a vital organ.

The mechanism is the same on different scales, but the intent is different. Buckshot doesn't actually make it easier to hit the deer, it just makes it more deadly when you do it. Birdshot is explicitly there to make it easier to hit the bird, because any hit on a bird will bring it down. They're fragile creatures.

In war, buck is the only useful shell, and it is useful because the sheer volume of wounds inflicted will take someone out even if it isn't lethal. It's like getting shot five or six times with a small caliber handgun. Problems with shotguns must include one important fact: Even firing slugs, they do precisely dick through any sort of body armor. Bulletproof vests mafia members sometimes wore could handily repel buckshot, or even slugs because of their low velocity. You need a high velocity small caliber round to penetrate a vest most of the time. Anything you fire out of a rifle or an MG will do it, buckshot takes a rifle-sized weapon, and shoots many pistol-power rounds out of it at once, if that makes sense. Great if your target is unarmored, less so if they're protected.

I've heard that some shotguns use a sabot to fire a thin spike at really high speeds, if so that would actually probably penetrate armor pretty well, but at that point, why aren't you using a rifle?

>>53592946
Because shotguns can carry multiple types of ammo I guess?

>>53593055
Good point. Also before the advent of cheap semi-automatic rifles, the pump action shotgun was readily available and could fire pretty fast. They're also very reliable because the action is so simple and the round is low-pressure.

>>53582547
So...its an IL-2?

>>53593641
It has no precise analogue, but the closest thing to it would probably be an F4U, but with more armor and a smaller weapons loadout.

>>53593849
Does it have the "w" wings as well? I Imagine planes designed for carriers are highly prized in the Void.

>>53594033
Of course. The shape of the airframe and its wings is really cool, that's the best part about the plane desu.

oh god now discord is voice chatting

SMASH THE TEETH AND CUT THE EYES
THE RAHOO RIDER NEVER DIES

RAPE THE WIND WITH BATTLE CRY
MEN OF RAHOO RULE THE SKY

IMPALE THE HEART WITH FEARSOME LUNGE,
MEN OF RAHOO, DOWN WE PLUNGE,

SEND THEM SCREAMING TO THE GLOW,
MEN OF RAHOO, FROM BELOW

SLASH THE THROATS AND CUT THE EARS
MEN OF RAHOO SHED NO TEARS

PIERCE THE SKY WITH RAHOO SPEAR,
MEN OF RAHOO KNOW NO FEAR

>>53596780
This needs a choir.

>>53584942
It is a P-47 because the P-47 is the raddest plane ever.

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>>53598072
'murican detected

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>>53598145
communist detected

>>53528551
Yup Ireland. If memory serves me right its derived from the four different cultures that inhabited the UK during the roman occupation. Celts, Scots, Welsh, and Hyberni. That why they actually have a sort of union in the USA known as the AOH Ancient order of hybernians

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>>53596780
Hey, at least it rhymes.

>>53598145
The P47 isn't even the stereotypical American plane, that'd be the P51 Mustang. The Thunderbolt is just esoteric enough to be cool. It's the predecessor of the fucking BRRRRRRRRRRRRRT plane the burgers use now.

>>53602041
No, you're thinking of the Stuka.

>>53602380
Is this bait?

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>>53514653
>Ever wonder why medieval Europe never bothered conquering Japan? That's right, it's because Jimmy never wrote the splat for Japan. Even in Ballad of the Laser Whales, Rahoo soldiers target the men with the tar first because their simulationist rule of cool was feared and respected.

>>53596780
Needs to end in a shout, akin to "SEMPER FI!" or "ROLL TIDE!". Two syllables seems like it'd fit best.

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>>53602431
No, why would you think that when we have color photos of USAAF Ju88.

>>53603335
RAHOO is technically two syllables. Any other suggestions?

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>>53582374
>>53580699
>southern gentry fighter pilot knighthood houses

>>53603536
1) lol

2) Stuka was Ju-87.

>>53602041
Mustang is overrated as hell thanks to History Channel and Red Tails. It wasn't particularly maneuverable, was merely an okay performer at high altitude (it actually performed better down on the deck), had...adequate armament, and frankly the Thunderbolt had more air-to-air kills than the Mustang.

>>53605872
Well you have to bear in mind the context of its use. The Mustang performed a lot less well than say a Spitfire, but the Mustang had farcically long range for a single-seat fighter. It also came into the war very late. In terms of pure engineering it's probably the single best airframe of the war, it just needed the British Merlin engine to actually reach its full potential.

>>53598145
Now now, Ilya, the IL-2 is pretty neat and an indispensable part of the Soviet War machine. But the P-47 was a special kind of retarded that somehow comes out as extremely effective. Eight fifty caliber machine guns and a 2500 pound bomb, while being the size of an African nation-state, yet still also capable of being an effective fighter once the bombs or rockets have dropped. Plus being durable as all hell. It's tied with the P-38 in general radness among American planes of WW2.

>>53606104
Well, a British Merlin engine mated to an American-designed pressure carburetor so the damn thing would quit dying every time you exposed it to negative G forces.

Though you're right about the advanced airframe. The Mustang had stupidly low drag which let it have a crazy top speed despite a terrible power-to-weight ratio.

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>>53606120
>Eight 50 cals
Fucking WHY? Just put a fucking cannon on it Jesus Christ

The Belcesters are the heart of the South.
There are other states similar to them, they're just the most extreme.
But Bazzock is basically New York.
And Holy Author is Pennsylvania.

>Did the South try to secede in Ballad, or was it just space Haiti?
They never really needed to. The "North" was the RoR, which mostly never formed into the same country as Desotia.
So no civil war was necessary.
The Desotians eventually took over a few states through economics, like NY and Pennsylvania, but the question of ending slavery never even came up. The Rahoos didn't even notice when the Albish abolished slavery.
The Zaabi were too busy occupying their attention. They're sort of the big adversary there. And desu the Zaabi are actually in the right, morally. They're facing the Desotians who literally genocided all the blacks in the country because the Zaabi rebelled.
Like a casual thing. "Oh we're doing race war now? Alright kill everyone" and they actually did it.
There's a lot of potential there. I like the contrasting element.
Where everyone really likes the Rahoos because they're extreme and sort of funny, but they're also very clearly massive dicks.
It's like liking Pagan Min in Far Cry 4.

>so, do the Belcester houses maintain any traditional alliances between each other? have any preferred methods or tactics beyond the obvious PLANES?
>how do they operate when on deployment in foreign territory?
Well only the eldest son or the current head actually flies the plane.
Most members of the landed families train to fight as infantry. Their country is very rough and rugged, and they deliberately refuse to build any infrastructure. They're very, very competent fighters.
When they join the Desotian Host, the Belcester Division is generally given more or less free reign to do what it wants, often acting as a sort of commando group or a mobile reserve.

The prevailent Rahoo idea of war is that you win it through attrition, so they focus on killing and capturing enemies. Killing or capturing civilians is considered a close second in priority.
Belcester in particular has a great interest in capturing enemies alive, for obvious reasons--they have a lot of slave plantations that need feeding.

>Are the Desotian / RoR states typically one island each? Like Bazzock is an island, Holy Author is another, etc. Or are they on a contiguous continent-sized island?
It depends. Sometimes multiple states share an island, and sometimes a state can include multiple islands.
But generally it's 1 for 1.

For example, Chiron is about the size of Texas, and Arlon is about the size of France. Those are probably the two single biggest islands, besides Janszonia which is literally just Australia.

>[Goyim] are basically less than human. They're cattle to be harvested.
t. Jimmy

We all go down to Zaabi, and take some scalps.
And we'll smash 'em, cut 'em,
Cut their throats and dry their hides
We all go down to Zaabi, and take some scalps.

The old man born in Belcester,
he raised a man gon' do him proud
An' when that Ximbri comes around
There's gonna be Ximbri on the ground

We all go down to Zaabi, and take some scalps.
And we'll smash 'em, cut 'em,
Cut their throats and dry their hides
We all go down to Zaabi, and take some scalps.

Met a fine young lass up Bazzock way
Took her in to roll the hay
She told me she ne'er seen no slave
That's why up in Bazzock e'ry man's a knave

We all go down to Zaabi, and take some scalps.
And we'll smash 'em, cut 'em,
Cut their throats and dry their hides
We all go down to Zaabi, and take some scalps.

Boys in New Author work that steel
So no Rahoo man ever need to kneel
Rahoo man born free and strong
With smoke and fire right every wrong.

We all go down to Zaabi, and take some scalps.
And we'll smash 'em, cut 'em,
Cut their throats and dry their hides
We all go down to Zaabi, and take some scalps.

Started it out on the tune of Johnny come down to Hilo, but I reckon any American could fit the standard sing-song tune to this.

>how do Rahoos track bounties?
>that bit of song talks about smashing teeth, cutting eyes and ears
Taking teeth is more of a personal thing, taking ears is the traditional way of tracking kills.
A lot of Rahoos wear bracelets made of stringed teeth though, it's considered chic.

>Dieselpunk airship space pirates game
>The final boss is literally rednecks with fighter planes

>>53607210
MURRICA

>>53607210
They aren't rednecks. The rednecks are their white slaves. The ones in the planes are the elite; the nobility. The civil war never happened, and the old aristocracy is alive in Belcester.

>>53607253
The groundcrew and soldiers are all crazed rednecks, while the fighter pilots are all Colonel Sanders.

>>53607477
>Most members of the landed families train to fight as infantry.

>>53607485
Fuck, didn't see that.

So their armies are probably actually pretty small. It seems like the landed population is the minority, so are they all the commando groups that Jimmy described or are there regular forces drawn from sharecroppers or the middle class?

>>53607524
The core of the army is the elite soldiers of the landed class, who act as officers, or as commando units. Many times they offer slaves freedom in return for service as foot soldiers, but other times they just hire mercenaries or volunteers from other states.

Belcester would not be able to fight a serious war on its own, they rely on the fact that their allies can muster large amounts of manpower to act as regular troops, while they act as an elite strikeforce alongside them. Typically their closest allies are Hartford and Samson, two other states which have more liberal democracies, but which trade heavily with them. The three usually act together in war, with the two other states providing the bulk of the manpower and Belcester providing coordination and expertise. They also frequently train the militaries of other states as part of trade deals.

>>53602431
Are you bait? The best Stuka pilot in history was routinely consulted to create the A-10.

>>53607253
Ballad is now tied for best setting with Tattered Realm. It's like a parody except it's dead serious.

>>53607573
So officially named states so far:
New Belcester
Bazzock
Holy Author
Hartford
Samson

What the hell are these names?

>>53607885
Bazzock stands out as ridiculous, Belcester is probably a reference to the fact that in SoS England was colonized by slavs. Bel means "white," Cester is a common name for towns in British that means "fortress" in Latin. So it's literally Belgrade but half-anglo.

>>53607885
I've heard worse names in America than Holy Author, Hartford means "deer crossing" and there are a bunch of towns named thusly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartford_(disambiguation)

Samson is a good strong biblical name, I can get behind it.

>>53608125
Has the rest covered.

>>53608842
Yeah, I've got to say that none of those are really any stranger than things like "Arkansas" or "Missouri" or "Ohio".

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>captcha is ACCA
Guess it's time for smoking lanklets

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>>53511038

>>53608906
Aren't those names just taken from the indigenous monikers? So they ought to be normal and sensible in the original language.

>>53614600
They are, but well, so is "Holy Author".

>>53616013
So they live in a state called St. Jerome?

>>53618252
Dunno, but theyre pennsylvania dutch.

>>53606400
The Americans in WWII were of the opinion that hosing targets down with tons of 50 cal fire was better than center-mounted and more accurate cannons.

History has more or less shown them to be mistaken, but it's understandable given how unpopular the airacobra was.

>>53604522
Somebody fucking fund this.

>>53606568
>Belcester in particular has a great interest in capturing enemies alive, for obvious reasons--they have a lot of slave plantations that need feeding.
>feeding
Mistype or Worry?

>>53620779
Ignoring the Corsair and Hellcat kill ratios versus the rapidly crippling IJN, the P-51 in the European Theater accounting for all versions managed a kill rate of 4905 to 2,201 lost, which on the more equal front versus the Luftwaffe is a roughly 2:1 kill ratio.

If we're going off quality of aces, I'm still going to chalk that up to German aces:
A. Flying Eastern Front, filling up their ratio with fucking IL-2s
B. Flying Western Front, killing fucking bombers.

This says nothing to Post-War jet designs, which I am not looking into, nor Slavic Sekrit Dokumints, which I have trouble finding.

>>53621782
Hurricanes 4 lyfe

>>53621577
Neither, it's creative language.

>>53620333
What, they all are? I thought it was analogous to the whole state. Is there a different one that represents the Eastern half of the state?

>>53622931
Knowing Jimmy, it's probably the whole state and the reason they're all Dutch is because the Dutch won a general vote at 53% to enact an ethnic cleansing policy where they gelded all other races in the populace.

>>53622931
Maybe they're the fucking Amish, and they just make artisan plane chassis instead of furniture.

>>53623126
Weren't wood-and-canvas frames pretty good at taking cannon fire?

>>53624460
It'd make sense. The explosive shells might not detonate if they encounter minimal resistance.

>>53620779
>History has more or less shown them to be mistaken,
Nigger Sabers with 6x .50 cals kicked the absolute shit out of the cannon-only MiGs in Korea, 10 to 1.

>>53625444
Oh I wasn't talking about the .50 cals, but about the fact that they were mounted on the wings and not in the nose. The Sabre mounted them in the nose because it was more accurate and gave a better concentration of fire.

>>53625632
Honestly, even wing-mounted .50 cals were plenty accurate up to around 500m, and most pilots set their convergence points below that because they tended to get closer than that anyway before opening fire.

>>53625444
>Nigger Sabers with 6x .50 cals kicked the absolute shit out of the cannon-only MiGs in Korea, 10 to 1.

That had nothing to do with armament and everything to do with pilot quality. See how when you take away all the poorly trained Korean pilots and leave only the experienced Russian and Chinese pilots the kill ratio is actually 2 to 1 in favor of the MiG-15.

>>53625791
On whom's records? Because iirc neither nation kept actually accurate traces of air to air victories between said fighters, not to mention the non-target aircraft saturating the airspace like Panthers and Beagles.

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Which organisation is the most ruthless in Ballad, and what are the things they do?

>>53627374
Erase an entire people from existence?

>>53627374
The Abwehr is literally a witch coven. The UCUC sounds like they do some pretty distasteful stuff too though.

Rahoo Intelligence is probably even more inept than the CIA.

>>53627572
If the people you commit a crime upon don't exist there's no victim QED no crime.
>>53627584
Baba Yaga is a nice lady, stop insulting witches or her house will punt you off Chiron

>>53510543

>>53627374
I mean, we could speak of the brute methods of interrogation and espionage employed by intelligence services all night, but if it comes to sheer brutal pragmatism, it's probably the Desotian Air Force.

Desotia is the country that first developed the notion of a deliberate strategy of terror-bombing civilians. This was during the VIIth Desotian-Zaabi war, which the Desotians were losing. As part of a desperate strategy to turn their air superiority into a material advantage, they developed a program to try and cripple the ability of the closer Zaabi cities to act as hubs for war materials and supplies to travel through.

The Fury Program was the answer. The FB06 Condor was originally designed as a transport plane, but was modified to serve as a short range heavy bomber, with a carrying capacity of nearly 4,000 kilograms of ordinance.

At this point in the war, the Rahoos had essentially run out of explosive materials because they had been selling it to the Zaabi while fighting them--so they couldn't drop bombs on their cities even though they had air superiority. Faced with an advancing enemy army, they scrambled for ideas. Richard Thorn, a Colonel in the Air Force, offered them a solution.

The "Fury" was a bundle of 15 gram steel darts, with small stabilizing fins. These were produced from billets on lathes, and would be dumped out of the bombers at extremely high altitudes in paper packages that would burst during freefall. One Condor could carry 250,000 such flechettes, which would be manually flung out of the back of the plane while passing over the target cities. This was extremely cheap to accomplish, steel is never in short supply in Desotia, even if explosive materials sometimes are.

>>53629524
The first test was on the Zaabi city of St. Laguna, one of the key staging areas of the war. The event would later be known as the "Black Hail." A fleet of 120 Condors, many of which were barely functional and had reduced loads, flew over the city (which had been told that the Desotians were incapable of launching such a raid for lack of ammunition) and dumped 360,000 kilograms, or nearly 24 million "Fury Darts," onto the city from high altitude.

Reports indicate that the darts could penetrate through entire buildings into the dirt below, the roofs of vehicles, even the reinforced frames of some armored cars which were on the scene. But the chief effect of the weapons was psychological--they were silent. Each barrage, dropped simultaneously, would land at once, like a wave of steel hail, tearing through buildings, shredding exposed people into ribbons, and embedding themselves in the ground like a field of iron grass.

Tens of thousands were killed in the bombing, to the point that the Zaabi were not sure what had actually happened at first, as the city had been largely depopulated. The invasion faltered and withdrew, concerned that perhaps the Desotians had scraped together some sort of airborne invasion of the city. Instead, they found a vast graveyard full of perforated buildings and many, many thousands of dead people.

The Desotians went on to fight the war to a white peace, but the Zaabi are still very, very bitter about the destruction of St. Laguna.

>>53629643
>>53629524
>Shit we're out of bombs
>Fuck it throw lawn darts at them

>>53629813
It's not only that they were out of bombs. They sold all their bombs to their enemy.

>RAHOO

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Guys. GUYS
Listen.
What if, guys seriously, what if
Listen here
what if dresden bombings but roman style?

That's pretty fucking hardcore.

>>53622931
the united states is balkanized in Ballad

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Because some magic things have yet to be implemented, I homebrewed a mage to use for my setting starting a few months back. It's really just a weeaboo fantasy fulfillment for me, with absolutely zero use for the Tattered Realms, but my group has been bothering me for a while to share my broken shit with the world.

Honestly there's only so much I was able to test with my group so far, especially with all of us going through university and/or major life changes, so if ten out of the 70 or so spells and the equipment aren't broken as fuck, I'm already happy. Anyways, here's the doc itself, feel free to point out how shit it is. Like I said before, I'm using it for my setting so I really don't expect any of it to work outside of it, unless you like Korean MMOs like I used to

>>53629643
>St. Laguna
Saint Laguna? Who were they, that they got a city named after them?

>>53629643
>darts that were distributed by manually tossing then out the back of the plane
>simultaneously, even
>somehow able to blanket an entire city
Not sure this is credible, honestly.

>>53629934
Well, considering how decentralized they are, it's more like the production centers in the various states sold them to enemies of their governments because the local and allied armies weren't paying as well.

>>53632801
>manually tossing
I don't think that was ever mentioned.

>>53632506
Will check it out.

>>53632801
What? They were shrapnel bombs that explode in the air, blanketing an area with iron darts.

>>53633140
>>53633513

>>53629524
>dumped out of the bombers at extremely high altitudes in paper packages that would burst during freefall. One Condor could carry 250,000 such flechettes, which would be manually flung out of the back of the plane while passing over the target cities.

>>53633513
What I gathered was that they don't explode but just the paper is torn due to wind force. An explosion would risk warping the metal.

>>53634676
>>53634639
Metal doesn't just float in the wind. The packages would need some sort of explosive to scatter the load. If few fletchettes out of a, say, thousand get bent, it doesn't matter in the big picture.

>>53634639
Pretty sure that just meant they kicked the bags out of the back of the cargo plane

>>53635668
They're not flechettes like you'd shoot our of a rifle, they've got fins which means dispersal is likely anyway. Not over a huge area, but enough that it's not just a bag of them on landing. Sticking a bomb in it for that extra bit of spread doesn't seem worthwhile when the whole point of this is reduction of explosive consumption.

>>53635682
Yeah, which is what it was being taken to mean in the post that was contested.

>>53635733
The point isn't explosive reduction. It's that there's not enough explosives for conventional bombs to hammer the city with.

>>53635818
Right, not enough bombs means they need to reduce their use of explosives while obtaining a similar result. What bombs they do have can be used to detonate flechette packages, but it makes more sense to just drop them from a substantial height (already necessary to get good penetration) and save all the explosives available for hard targets.

>>53635990
Then why the packages, if the spikes somehow spread all by themselves? What are the packages for, if the only thing they have is metal spikes?

Just haul the spike carts straight from the assembly line, and dump the contents straight from the plane. Why waste perfectly good packaging material when you don't need to package anything together?

>>53636608
The packages are so you can throw more than like five at a time.

>>53636608
It might be that "paper packages" are actually like cargo-crate sized cardboard boxes or something, and they just push the whole thing out of the back.

>>53636623
You've never seen a cart, have you? It's a big box that holds many steel rods. More than five. You can dump from the cart, to outside the plane, all the content you desire to inflict upon some uppity black people. At no point, in fact, during the whole process of turning ingot to shredding rod dropped on some 5 year olds skull do you actually need to touch the rods with your hand, or package them.

If, that is, the rods somehow spread in a manner that is actually a feasible weapon. Feasible, in war, means at least 500*500 meters, minimum. Russians have cannon shot mines that spread at least 700 meters by 2 kilometers. That is why, if there was a multitude of packages thrown out of 5 meter wide cargo plane, you'd need some serious spread from the packages. Most likely, in the the form of an explosive charge.

>>53636947
Yes, but then there might be too many in a small space for them to actually disperse properly. A cart would hold both more than a paper cartridge and more than you could do with explosive (since you'd need such a high amount of it that you're gonna wind up with an empty spot in the middle) so it's basically just a lazy way to do shit.

Plus now you're dropping a cart on the target which just looks silly.

As for the spread, do keep in mind that you've got a line of 120 planes with teams or probably three to six dudes continuously tossing this shit out.

>>53637031
I can tell you're a white collar worker. Drop the cart? Really? Apply some engineering brain before you come to the conclusion that there is no helping it, the cart must be kicked off the plane with the contents.

>>53632801
>>53633140
>>53633513
>>53634639
>>53634639
Bear in mind that this was the first actual usage of these weapons in war, and the Condor was not intended to serve as an effective bomber--and they lacked specialized containers for the weapons at this juncture.

What you would instead have was cardboard"bombs" of the flechettes, wrapped up with a small cluster of hand grenades. The grenades would be activated by a pull cord and then the package pushed out the back of the plane. The detonation would scatter the materials over a significant area, and at such high altitudes the blasts would sound more like thunder than man-made explosions. The flechettes themselves are designed not to fall straight down, but to move at a slight angle, which causes them to spread further, but still hit with impressive impact.

This delivery system was largely motivated by desperation--in later uses the Fury was deployed using various clever means as a sort of terror weapon. Explosive bombs were almost always more effective at destroying infrastructure, but the fear of a wave of flesh-rending hail falling upon the city at any time was believed to inflict terrible despair. It was also very cheap.

>>53632735
Jean Laguna was a Zaabian monk, who during the days of slavery was martyred in terrible fashion after accepting the blame for the crime of a slave. His hideous execution inspired an uprising that eventually blossomed into the Mid-Rahoo Civil War, which finally resulted in the establishment of the Zaabi state. He was canonized as a saint by the Western Church of Zaabi as its first official act upon separating from the Orthodox Church.

The city was

>>53638110
Fug, posted too soon.

Anyway, the city was established after the saint's name shortly after his canonization, and was meant to stand as a testament to the freedom of the Zaabi people, and the cooperation of all races and creeds in the building of their new nation.

The Desotians have bombed the city eighteen times, but thusfar have never managed to destroy the iron statue of Jean Laguna that stands in the central plaza.

>>53638863
What's the church like? I think this is the first we've heard of it.

>>53639348
The Western Church was established after the civil war over disputes with the Orthodox Church over who had the authority to install bishops in the spots vacated by the revolution, and also over violence committed against priests.

The Western Church is strongly reformist, being considered part of the revolutionary system, and ministers to the people a modified creed of the old Genosian religion. Over the many centuries, Genosism has changed from its original delivery--the "sun" holds no real meaning anymore, and the religion has become more about ritual and discipline than it has explicitly about labor.

The Orthodox Church, which still holds sway in the Core Islands, does not at all approve of this new offshoot, but it has little power in Rahoo, and so cannot take any serious action to reclaim its flock. There are many Orthodox citizens in Desotia and the RoR however, and many of them are motivated by religious antipathy to fight the Zaabi.

>>53639890
What I'm getting from this is that Space USA isn't happening any time soon.

>>53640410
The Rahoo are what if the U.S.A. went horribly wrong, the only way to fix it now is genocide.

>>53640692
So the modern USA?

>>53639890
What's the OSS counterpart like?

>>53640692
The Rahoo are what if the USA went horribly right, there's nothing to fix.

>>53625791
>"That had nothing to do with armament"
>planes' armament has nothing to do with winning
Why are you being stupid on purpose?

>>53642759
"surprising competent but entirely focused on domestic security" was Jimmy's description of Rahoo during the lore dump on spy agencies the other day.

>>53642759
Well, the closest allegory to the OSS would be the RoR's foreign intelligence agency, called 5th Sequence. They developed well before CW2 to keep tabs on what Desotia and the Zaabi were doing, but also dabble to a degree in Core Island affairs as a matter of course. They work loosely with the RIS, and have exchanged a few harsh words with the Abwehr, but for the most part they focus on their neighbors.

Desotian Intelligence is more adept than one might suspect, given that the country is made up of many small, often conflicting states. DED, one of the only lasting Federal institutions, actually began as a system for preventing inter-state espionage, and then involved into a larger counter-espionage department during the war with the Zaabi, and finally began conducting espionage on its own. While more capable than expected, they are still a lower-tier intelligence group in large part because they hold too much of the Desotian attitude of "shooting people solves problems." The SAG (Skulduggerous Activities Group) is very adept at shooting people, and so they are frequently deployed to deal with problems in place of more nuanced espionage.

>>53643454
You can have the best guns ever on a plane but if the pilots have shit for skills it doesn't mean a damned thing. Especially in aerial combat before the advent of air-to-air guided missiles.

What is the RoR anyway?

>>53645200
The sane Rahoos. Or, the relatively sane ones.

>>53645323
How can a Rahoo be sane?

>>53645898
When a rahoo isn't singing about raping the wind, he might seem rather sane.

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>>53643908
>>53643953
Nice.

>>53632506
Share more of your weeb shit, it seems pretty quality. Put all of your weeb shit in a little box and drop it to us.

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>>53643953
>Only good at shooting people
So the CIA is the FBI.

>>53643953
What sort of collection assets are employed in the void? I can't imagine there being much in the way of HUMINT, and unmanned assets are surely limited. What sort of processes are implemented to reduce commander uncertainty?

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Thread's Dead, post large impractical weapons or dark secrets
I really like the Nagamaki

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>>53650726
the detective was the real killer all along

>>53650764
That's nonsense, Arzalluz is a perfectly upstanding member of the community and extraordinary detective. To sully his name even in jest is leagues too far.

>>53650764
When are we going to get more stuff like this?

>>53650726
I like Nagamakis too.

>>53648240
Thanks senpai. I got some divine casters on the works, but I need to review them a bit and add a few other things I have in mind

>>53652927
When Jimmy runs another kickstarter. He'll spend two years writing a few pages to go with the launch and blow his wad in the first half of the month, just like this last time.

>>53650764
>Reporter cuts him off mid sales pitch
>Reporter is first victim of next serial killer
Burds are a very trusting people, I assume.

>>53652927
Never

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>>53652927
Jimmy was reading BLAME! Yesterday, so probably soon.

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Are whatever kind of ribbed sweater garment thing this boy is wearing around in Vosca, basically what are my fashion options Jimmy? I know Dace has Waistcoats, but do they have shirts?

>>53645200
Republic of Rahoo. It's a more coherent and less racist country that borders Desotia and Zaabi. It's the closest thing to the USA in the setting, but it's missing huge swathes of historic territory so it is comparatively weak.

>>53660204
They're the ones that use .50s as squad machine guns right?

>>53660204
Borders is an odd word, considering they're all islands floating in space.

Is Pubg worth it all?

>>53662214
Yeah. Sheer lunacy, but ballsy.

Jimmy, do the Ballad Genosians go to Genosus and His ziggaraut?
Does Genosus get the souls of the Genosian Zells, or do they still suffer the whims of the Seven?

>>53663930
>>The katana can be disassembled into five parts, each of which weighs between 20-30 pounds, including the tripod. These can be assembled quickly by a trained crew, but it does still require that five men each carry a ~25 pound load of hardware, plus ammunition.
>>The Rahoos do believe quite strongly that the katana is the primary weapon of any infantry formation, and see nothing wrong with the idea of half of a squadron being devoted entirely to carrying it. Many of them don't even carry rifles or sidearms, they just carry ammunition for the katana and rely on it, and the 3-4 riflemen and their squad leader to protect them.
>>What one must understand about such a system is that a katana overpenetrates like a son of a bitch. There is no hiding from a katana. It can cut down trees, it can tear through any amount of shrubbery, it will cleave through multiple buildings, it will saw houses in half, it will perforate brick walls, it will penetrate vehicles, it will slash down aircraft, it will penetrate ranks of men 30 bodies deep. Perhaps most importantly, its effective range is enormous. Attaching a scope to a katana, one finds that the weapon can cut with remarkable accuracy for many thousands of feet. On the open plains of Desotia, where most troops are mobilized by horse or in trucks to begin with, this is a serious advantage. A katana on a hill can kill people in the next county. A small group of such weapons could defeat a division-strength enemy caught on the open.

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In today's Venezuelan news, things are going worse, the highest repression level (direct translation) has been activated, and police are fucking shit up just because, including apparently unprovoked destruction of private property (i.imgur.com/q615eaM.gifv) and mugging a woman (http://i.imgur.com/UWBVmwq.gifv).

>>53666065
but are the girls still sexy?

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>>53669123
I don't get it, is the church on autopilot?

How best to run a Napoleonic-era game, gentlemen?

>>53671414
As sappeurs, rangers, auxillaries, mercenaries, or just about anyone who isn't line infantry or hussars charging line infantry.

>>53673247
Yeah, don't be frontline soldiers. That doesn't make for good roleplaying. Too much of it is being drilled and following orders. The PCs should be special agents to some degree, able to act and move freely while armies are marching and making camp. Being diplomats, spies, saboteurs, etc. is probably best.

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>>53667071
I don't have any new pics of that girl from the other day, but here's a different one.

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Actually I've got some pretty photogenic shit today.

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That's it for the pretty pictures, the rest of what I have is just dudes running around getting shot at or fire-hosed.

>>53673247
Sappeurs were even further away inside enemy lines than front line, though. They led the attacks, destroying enemy barricades.

>>53675048
Are actually a venezuelan?

>>53677459
No, I'm getting the pictures from someone else who is.

>>53677493
Doing God's work.

>>53671414
>>53673247
Sorry, I should have been clearer. Don't post past your bedtime, folks.

I was thinking about rules and what changes or additions might be needed, not the actual campaign plot.

>>53681065
Use luck?

>>53681750
Seconded. Ballad's Luck rules would be nigh-mandatory for a napoleanic game.

>>53681065
>>53681750
There's really not much more that you'd need to add, I think.

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>>53683374
Depending on how autistic you are, you might want rules for different guns and stuff more in line with reality, maybe a few more swords to represent different Napoleonic stuff, but yeah I think it'd work about right right now.

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who is the VDV of the Ballad universe?

>>53685794
They probably don't exist, because the USSR collapsed.
In Tattered Realms there's a Dacian unit of Zell pikemen who wear the same striped shirt but in black.

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>>53685794
Neither Mi-24s, Mi-8s or even Mi-4s have a direct equivalent yet, so it's hard to place them in their prime.

But there's probably other slavsto make all sorts of units. Maybe even the UCUC.

>>53685794
If the rahoo's came to the idea to throw out thousands of darts from a coverted transport plane, they prolly did that with people, too. Only question is: Did they hand out parachutes before?

>>53685794
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rAHrHd2lcw

WEH DEH WEH
SNOKA PRIPYET
IST PARACHUTEN
BILLY BOOKET

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>>53687928
The Men of Rahoo Rule the Sky.

>>53687891
The Rahoos haven't seen much need to paradrop, because most of Rahoo is uninhabited. Bush planes can land in most locales without difficulty, it's easier to just fly men over and land them than to try and throw them out of their planes with parachutes.

Granted, that would work if they tried it, but it just hasn't been worth the effort yet.

Jimmy, what are the combat tactics used by the different nations?

>>53688109
wew pls no smash teeth

>>53689290
What's the status of natives in the northern rahoo chain? Total genocide? Isolated hold outs? Exodus into Zaabi controlled territory?

>>53689359
Let's go down the line.

Chiron has not seen enough prolonged "modern" land warfare (i.e. CW2) to realize the strength of mechanized units or heavy armor. but why would they? Babel explosives solve most problems; Static emplacements can be dislodged through babel artillery and babel grenades.

You'd suppose the major differences would be between the three branches of the Chironite military, and I'm supposing you mean land forces: The Heer, the Saalschutzstaffel (SSS), the Sternwaffe's Fallschirmjager, and the SMK(sic). (And, of course, the Templars, but that's like spitballing tactics for fucking Jedi)

All of these don't have much of a reason to deviate much from late-era Wehrmacht organization, aside from better organization due to not fighting a losing battle. The Heer and the SSS, equipment wise, are likely using still large amounts of Schwartzritters supplemented by increasingly large amounts of Volksverdeiters. The MG34 lacks a named equivalent, so although I assume there is one, Chiron continues to use the MG66 as a GPMG. One interesting tidbit however may be that Chironite troops lack the iconic gasmask canister seen on most Wehrmacht troops, as CW1 rarely if it all saw uses of gas on most fronts due to threats by Templars across the void. The Fallschirmjagers on the other hand continue to field Flammenschwerts and Nachtmachers as opposed to Heer and Saalschutz. Doctrinally, they still also probably don't deviate.

Most importantly the SMK lacks a real equivalent, because who the fuck ever heard of the Kriegsmarine do anything involving landkrieg? The SMK pioneered the use of Battleplate and continue to use it; In the tight confines of voidship combat, weapons like the Nachtmacher and the Weißenschwert are king. Flammenwerfers are also common, and bringing the fight even closer are the Sternritters: Non-powered noble dandies still entranced by the song of swords. Well, figuratively speaking, they use axes.

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>>53692750
>You will never help Chiron construct the Iserlohn Fortress
>You will never sneak your Zell lover in through the cargo dock
>You will never have freaky sorceror babies as you make a powerplay over the lower artillery decks
>You will never turn Iserlohn into your lovenest as you and your lover rule over an army of half-zell sorcerors creating the strongest Chironite magician unit
Why live

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Rip thread, died for lack of fecht

>>53695470
Fecht? What is it?

>>53695620
Something dead that never resurrects.

>>53696267
Let's not disturb its sleep then

>>53665594
I am so happy my dumb edit is floating around holy shit

>>53665594
>>53662214
Not sure it's accurate to say that these are the sane ones.

>>53697487
All things are relative in Rahoo.

>>53698207
All people are relatives in Rahoo?

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>>53698834
Oh yes.

>>53697397
Wait, I thought I wrote that.