MTG: Snowflake/Lore General

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>>53509353
Finally.

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>Does your flake co-operate with other planeswalkers?
My flake sells bones and bone accessories.

He's a bit 'get off muh lawn' when it comes to his own plane though.

Is body changing/swapping a thing in MtG?

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Reminder

>>53513038
Chugging that sweet snot brew man

How hard would it be to discover another planeswalker anyway?
I thin the RU walker from Ravnica managed to easily find Jace and Gideon.... Probably even others given enough time.

>>53515066
It's pretty easy for someone like Ral Zarek to notice Jace, because Jace is actually really bad at blending in.

>>53515140
Ravnica is Jace's home though.

>>53515229
No it's not. It's just where he happened to land after his memories got wiped.

He also insists on wearing his symbol everywhere he goes, and fails to blend in by making bad choices despite what he does know.

I thought PWs could sense the sparks from some distance as well as when something enters/leaves the plane?

>>53515262
Right, he originally came from Vryn.
But as you said he was mindwiped, and when he first landed on Ravnica he wasn't wearing his trademark blue cloak. Heck I don't think he had his weird blue tattoos either.

Those had to come from somewhere, and my bet would be his adopted home plane of Ravnica.

>>53515834
Jace already has his tattoos on the flip side of his Origins card. And spell tattoos aren't really in any part of Ravnica's style barring Magemarks (which are much less intricate).

Jace's inability to blend in on Ravnica isn't really about his ignorance, since he's been there long enough to get the gist. He even knows how to lay low. The problem is that he sometimes just doesn't, so any planeswalkers around wouldn't have all that much trouble spotting him as out of place.

>>53509364
You ice cold son of a bitch.

>>53516232
The planeswalker side of the flipwalkers represents what they're like roughly around BFZ.

See Liliana, Defiant Necromancer, as proof of this. She carries the demon pact on her skin which she only got centuries after her ignition and is that the Chain Veil at her side?

>>53516232
Alright then assuming your right about Jace not blending in on Ravnica, then what about Gideon?
He's just some dude in armor till he pulls out this whip-sword thing. He doesn't stick out on any plane unless they don't have plate armor.

>>53515066
That was a tracking experiment that the Izzet League was doing. They almost inadvertently discovered planeswalkers because their data would show that sometimes instances of people ceasing to exist and then reappearing would happen. Ral Zarek and Jace actually teamed up and tried to sabotage it so Niv-Mizzet wouldn't figure out that planeswalkers are a thing.

In the Dragon's Maze novel, Jace reads Ral Zarek's mind when they duel and finds out that he's a planeswalker, then stupidly tells Ral that he's also one.

>>53517688
To quote:
>“You know as much as I do. The power behind the maze—it’s not for just anyone to wield.” >“That’s true,” said Ral with a grin. “It’s for me to wield.”
>So Zarek did believe there was something behind the maze, at that. The Izzet mage was hiding something, if only a deep antipathy for Jace. Jace reached into Zarek’s mind with his senses, feeling for an explanation, or at least a weakness he might exploit. What he found surprised him. It was not that Zarek’s mind was a storm of wild thoughts—that he expected. It was the other little fact: Zarek had seen worlds beyond Ravnica.
>“I am not your foe, Planeswalker,” said Jace. >“Oho! Another one like me, then, are you? You’ve heard tell of me on other worlds, I take it.”
>“I didn’t know until this moment. Your mind is open wide to me.”
>“In that case, you know I’m here to see you destroyed, fellow Planeswalker.”

>>53512944
Nnno?

>>53509353
>Does your flake co-operate with other planeswalkers? Are they even aware that other planeswalkers exist?

Salum, Salina, and Tyral are aware of other planeswalkers, and would probably be willing to collaborate with them... in different ways, depending on who you're talking to. Karrok hasn't met another one, and neither has Costin.

He's a meta joke, but obviously Fuar Linn just wants to capture other planeswalkers and then make them fight.

nuCala doesn't cooperate with anybody. She's a wreck.

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Time to post some short flake stories.We'll start with:

>Tyral, the Master of Impulse

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>>53521445
A dull roar. An almost sweet scent. Glass against teeth as the mug drained. Alcohol.

The viashino at the bar didn’t mind how sloppily it trickled down the edges of his mouth. He mostly didn’t care much for the bar chatter around him, either. He growled “another,” to the bartender and slapped down some additional coppers, coins that he had acquired just earlier by highway robbery.

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>>53521445
>>53521466
An especially loud, drunken patron stumbled by and bumped into the back of Tyral’s barstool. With a quick sweep of the viashino’s tail, the man was face-down on the ground, cursing loudly. Groaning, he staggered uneasily to his feet.

“Didy… Didyoo trip me?” he started.

Noisy. Rude. Hurt. These are thoughts that registered consciously in Tyral’s mind only after he had already clutched his claw around the back of the man’s head, then bashed their skulls together, leaving him a heap on the floor.

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>>53521445
>>53521466
>>53521481
The bar went quiet for a moment, though a few glasses were heard clinking as a few patrons were slow to realize what had happened. Giving his own actions no further thought, Tyral picked up his newly filled mug and resumed drinking. The bar was still quiet, but then some quiet muttering came from the back corner, from a handful of the local thugs.

“Big, bad scalie thinks he’s tough enough to do what he wants? I’d love to see him come over here and try that.”

Mug still in hand, Tyral stood up from the barstool. There was a blur of motion as he streaked across the bar to stand directly in front of the fellow who had just inadvertently challenged him. A moment later, everything else caught up, and some chairs, tables, and even patrons were thrown up and side in his wake. The thug could only look up from his seat, eyes wide in surprise as the viashino finished downing his drink and then threw his mug aside, destroying it on the nearby wall.

“Say that again, ‘fleshie?’”

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>>53521445
>>53521466
>>53521481
>>53521497
The thug’s reply was only stammering, which only brought a hearty laugh. But it was not a forgiving laugh. A cracking of bone on wood silenced him as the went head down into his table. A typical follow-up, Tyral then proceeded to pick his pockets. He took all of the man’s coin and turned, throwing it to the bartender as payment for the damages. It was then that he noticed everyone else had drawn their weapons. And then he noticed that he also, had drawn his weapons. He bared his teeth in a smile and gave a roar before throwing himself into the fray, and the remaining bar patrons every which way.

>>53521445
>outright creature destruction in mono-red

>>53521732
>It's literally Aftershock, a mono-red card.
>It got reprinted for Vintage Masters.

>>53521785
Still outside of modern red color pie.

>>53521816
Maybe so, but it was worth printing three times through the game's history. The other two destruction possibilities are still within red's possibilities. There's also a nice drawback for having that much flexibility.

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>>53521866
>it was worth printing three times
It was printed in Tempest. The reprint in Tempest Remastered was only because it was in Tempest, not because they liked it. Getting used in an online-only set isn't reprinting.

>>53521866
>a nice drawback
what drawback? The card is might as well just read 2R/Sorcery/"Destroy target creature" with the option to also have it be a planeswalker if the board is clear.

>>53522018
Was specifically referring to Aftershock itself. Paying 3 damage to your own face in exchange for "destroy one of these three things" could be worse in terms of balancing how many things it can do.

>>53521445
This is a pretty darn sweet design, the self damage of the 0 makes it like a -3 but you can still overclock him and use it asap.

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Let's try this again.

>Costin, the Ever-Frightful

The streets had quieted for the night. The lamps were dim, and as was the moonlight. A boy, a young teenager, pulled his hood down as low as it could go as he walked uneasily, shivering despite the fairly mild night. Seeking refuge, he turned down an alley and pushed his back up to the wall, then let his body sink to the ground. He glanced further down, and then back to the street and wondered quietly to himself, “Am I safe for now?”

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>>53525038
Though he was safe, Costin was still uneasy. The wind picked up abruptly, and he was startled when the old building behind him creaked. As his eyes widened, the nearby street lamp flickered out, and his heartbeat began to pick up. It was happening again. Scrambling to his feet, he walked hurriedly out into the street. As he paced down the road, the lamps closest to him would flicker, tempting his fear with unsteady shadows.

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>>53525038
>>53525051
Lost in his own head, Costin was trying not to look at the tricks his mind was playing, in addition to what it may have been actually doing. “No, no, no…” he whispered, “get a hold of yourself.” The lamps closest to the boy began to completely go out, darkening his way. Lost in his thoughts, he was completely startled when he bumped into someone.

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>>53525038
>>53525051
>>53525071
“Hey, watch where you’re going,” said the late night pedestrian, as Costin’s eyes widened with the
realization that he had, for just that moment, lost control. The person continued: “Wait, you’re just a kid. What are you doing out here this la-” Their words were left hanging as the shadows of the streets morphed into terrifying shapes, and their mind rapidly and easily descended into fear. There was a scream as the visions only got worse, and the young lad fled from what he had unintentionally caused yet again. He ran as quickly as he could, wanting nothing more than to get away once more. And then he was gone from that place altogether. Where he had traveled to was a blur as the boy finally gave out from exhaustion and collapsed. Sleep took hold of him. His mind was finally quiet, for now.

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>>53525038
>>53525051
>>53525071
>>53525128

Does this sound too strong for a planewalker's final ability?
The opponent exiles X amount of cards from their library and you create a +X/+X avatar-artifact creature with I dunno.... deathtouch and flying or something.

>>53525145
>>>>>>>>fear

>>53525444
It sounds like you don't even know what you want it to do.

>>53525444
It's not great. I mostly just don't see what exactly is supposed to be going on here, or how the effects really coorrelate.

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>>53525597
Mostly I just want it to create the artifact-avatar creature, the exiling thing is just because I'm not sure what to go with. I didn't want to go the land route like Nissa and Koth.

>>53525444
>>53525791
>artifact
>avatar

What.

>>53525791
Tell me the lore of what the heck this artifact avatar is

>>53525841
They're a Kaladesh mage.
I figured adding the artifact type would make it seem more fitting to the plane. And make the creation itself seem more.... experimental in nature.

>>53525145
considering it's not repeatable, I'm sure you could make the -3 a Doom Blade or Go For the Throat, instead of both...

>>53525914
Untested and experimental magic used by a Kaladesh mage unused to working with such materials. With more experimentation they can make full Avatars (and maybe spirits on special planes?).

>>53526035
It's terror.
Also, see that purple rarity symbol? They're not interested in changing/improving the cards.

>>53525963
I don't get it

>>53526217
What's not to get?
They're using a framework of metal to give form to the avatar.

>>53526364
What's it an avatar of.

>>53526399
Oh!
I um... am not sure yet. People mentioned that the discard X cards from an opponent's library is not making sense so I'm being initially vague on that....
I suppose I'd say it could probably be classified as an avatar of battle? Maybe anger? Lost magic? There are a few ways one can fluff it.

>>53526558
Well at this point there's so little to work with I can't really help.
If you made a flake sheet or even just color identity that would help

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>>53509353
Postin' templates is useful.

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>>53526715

>>53526657
Oh!
Well I am working on the sheet right now but I can provide a color for this walker: Red.
Might dip into either Blue or Black.

>>53526750
Exiling cards from an opponent's library is solidly blue and/or black. There's nothing red about that effect. Red would be exiling cards from your own library.

>>53527319
Yours, opponents
Potato, potato

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Posting the two walkers I made in the last thread that didn't get added

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>>53531632
And here's the second one.

Feedback appreciated, especially on the fist one since I'm still messing with the lore on him.

>>53531645
>>53531632
No need to repost, every walker that's posted in these threads is saved.

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>>53531739
Ah, right. Didn't see them added to the new roster.
We could try bringing back the other cool thing last session.

> Writing experiment:
Pick a spell, instant, sorcery, ect any kind, and describe how your flake would cast it.
Do they do it completely by the book? Or do they have their own style of wielding their mana that doesn't match the card's art very well?

>pic unrelated

>>53531771
this picture isn't that funny
it doesn't have enough "it's funny because it's true" and is just kinda randumb at parts

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>>53531874
I'm just posting from my MtG folder m8, relax. I know it's not exactly high quality, but I can't save the screencap from the other day where some guy managed to make 10 people reach enlightenment or something

>>53527319
Well it is a good thing I might dip into blue or black to make more fitting.

>>53531645
Geists on Innistrad are numerous and in every color, but this isn't the case in the rest of the multiverse. Usually spirits are limited to White and Black.
Does that limit her type of magic on other planes? And what about planes that don't have that sort of thing (like Kaladesh)?

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What books would you suggest for a new person getting into the lore?

>>53536259
Begin from the start
Skip that one book with Tezz, it's noncanon anyways
Things start to make sense around Time Spiral
Things go to online format about past Zendikar

>>53536259
Ice Age Cycle's a good start to see if it interests you

>>53513038
Reminder of what?

>>53537250
Never forget never forgive
Phyrexia will be avenged

>>53537250
All flakes are shit and equally so, including yours.

>>53531632
Doesn't feel that green at all. I get you're leaning on the destiny thing but you're leaning a bit too hard.

>>53531645
I like that she has a couple very specific goals that work well for getting her into action. Finding out how to do the crown thing *would* be cool.

>>53539059
Any advice on how to improve him? Make him more green, I guess. I tried to play up the black/green subverting nature but sstillrelying on that comes from a lot of the golgari lore.
>>53532625
I'd assume she's not really interested in going to those places. As for geists outside innistrad, I'm guessing she's interested in dead spirits, not so much the black shades, although realistically I could make her 4 color. Her red comes from using artifacts/spells that require sacrifices, and blue from generally using her ghostly powers to paralyse and control opponents.
I'd say it's more how she uses them, not what their color identity actually is. She's just good at making ghosts work in the place of traditional spells.

>>53538035
All planeswalkers are shit now-a-days so that's not really an insult.

>>53543917
It's basically a call to make sure nobody gets all high-and-mighty about their fanwalkers.

>>53531632
This fellow is one of my favorite walkers produced in these threads.
The zombie maker from Kaladesh is also another favorite.

>>53509353
Is that a fucking akantor?

>>53544913
Who?

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>>53547361
Molgatha is a goddamn akantor.

>>53547604
Oh, from monster hunter
Well, whatever works. Nothing says a wyvern can't be a planeswalker, if it's sentient

>>53548579
Didn't say anything was wrong with it. Just 'is that a fucking akantor? yes it is a fucking akantor'

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Hmm, sort of have a flake, but not certain how/if I can flesh it out more. He does a lot of artifact magic, and likes masterminding complicated trap like complexes/arenas.

Wish I wasn't shit at photoshop so I could use the Character sheet.

>>53549128
Lots of people just do it in paint, I think.

>>53544302
>This fellow is one of my favorite walkers produced in these threads.
Hey, guess I'm doing something right then.
I might take another crack at spider lady again.

What flake duos do you think would be interesting?

>>53549128
>>53549205

I definitely just use Microsoft paint

>>53531632
His home plane is listed as unknown/destroyed - but the story says it's still in the process.
Otherwise pretty good - I like the "No, I'm the hero!" thing.

>>53531645
Now this is ghostbusting.

>>53547604
GG no RE

akantor>bolas

>>53515521
Being able to drive makes you better at predicting traffic patterns. Oblivious drivers and privy pedestrians still exist.

>>53527319
Jester's Cap.png

Still not red, but I wanted it mentioned.

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>>53531771
As a primarily colorless player, I can't argue.

Also, kherto keeps a bunch of stax/tax artifacts on his person, so spellcraft is a lot harder around him. Closest he can do to casting is pulling a planebound into þe blind eternities, which is essentially a spacial contortion, but doing so competently and reliably is beyond his capacity.

>>53549128
Yeah, man, paint works.

>>53551959
>Esen deSahkrah and Man-in-the-Swamp
Making Vorthoses around the world spin in their chairs.
>Thalassa Fiahe and Janacek al-Dali
Members of the Bartender's Union.
>Heles Car, Mikael, Ugnok and Xanevious Kriger
The Rambunctious Naya Fightboys.
>Elaine Verisius, Graves and Ushiwaka
Members of the Guild of Talented Schemers That Just Got Unlucky That One Time, Promise.
>Hazaur, Eiredia and Celuel
Members of the Occupy the Mending movement.
>Sorca, Ashlyn and Tristain Westwind
Members of the Clan of Bad Ideas That Ignited Our Stupid Asses.

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Your snowflakes are racist, not enough black women.

>>53556412
Well Amonkhet is a very boring plane.

>>53556412
I wish she was prettier. Something's up with her face every time.

>>53553795
>not grouping together completely different snowflakes for interesting group dynamics

>>53556412
>Draw a man
>Call it a women

why?

>>53559464
Who would you group together for interesting dynamics then?

>>53559464
It's because she has super angry face every time she appears.

>>53559497
>Samut, the Tested
>full of testosterone

>>53556412
Please be fake, that looks fucking awful and her character was shit. How is she even RG? How do her abilities make sense with her own story?

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Hi guys
I recently made a dark-skinned female flake,
before the recent leaks.
How does mine compare?

>>53552145
>His home plane is listed as unknown/destroyed - but the story says it's still in the process.
That's what makes his efforts to save it so tragic.
He's too late.
>>53562599
Phyrexia is confined to Mirrodin unless you're talking about some glistening oil that somehow snuck out pre-mending.
Could stand to make her story a little clearer too. IImight be getting it wrong but it read like:
> matriarch good at making zombies
> fought against practice being outlawed
> had a visit to another plane but didn't believe it
> then actually visited another plane
When did her spark ignite? I might be missing something obvious, if so sorry.

>>53562675
I'm using Phyrexians on the basis that Elspeth saw them on an unknown non-phyrexia/new phyrexia plane herself.
I think that's enough to make the stretch in fancanon that 'they're out there' in some form.

>>53562675
Her spark ignited from the pride of achieving her schemes for keeping what she sees as a useful commodity. (Zombies)

She at first mistook her planeswalking for a shamanic vision, but quickly caught on she was actually physically transported.

>>53531918
I have that thread open still!!
>blue is insecure about themselves and so denies others what they want to feel powerful
>red probably has anger issues and can't imagine life without conflict
>green dreams big but doesn't know how to follow through
>white is a kiddo at heart who wants to make dudes and play war or who wants to do something silly
>black has trouble letting go of things and also has trouble forming bonds in the first place
Another that got a few replies was
>[Colorless] hates the fact that a game of magic requires another person to play against. Wishes it were solitaire, with prizes.

>>53562821
The plane Elspeth saw them on is Elspeth's home plane, which is neither Dominaria nor Mirrodin. Or, obviously, Phyrexia.
There is a confirmed plane out there under Phyrexia's thumb, that we have know idea what it's called.

>>53562599
Awful

>>53565927
No, it's okay, but it just needs some clarification.
Tbh she looks more GB or mono B than BU, but hey, zombies in Innistrad are blue, so that's okay.
>>53563243
> why is this so accurate

>>53517335
New joke block when? It needs to include >>53547604

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All right, put together my flake. Subjecting myself to public shaming now.

>>53568753
small font/10
In all seriousness, he sounds a little more R than W, and typically the sign of a bad flake is they interact with established characters.
Just have him join the consortium as a way of developing his artifice, after meeting with agents of them on Mirrodan before it became NP.

>>53568753
>Memnarch
>Planar Portal
There's literally no reason for him to be able to cast Memnarch other than 'oh he's explored mirrodin'. Legendary creatures require an intimate personal relationship, or you're just going to summon some rando artifact that kinda looks like Memnarch.
And planar portals are no longer kosher, unless it's the Kaladesh version and even then there was only one and it was a Big Deal
>Tezzeret
>Bolas
Interaction with canon characters is a big no no.

>>53568753
>Human
>Has familiarity with any pre-mending stuff like Memnarch

Hahahaha, no. Being a planeswalker doesn't extend your lifespan anymore.

>>53568950
The mending didn't happen THAT long ago.
I mean, venser's still around. Or WAS still around

>>53568971
88 years ago, to the best of my knowledge.

>>53569008
How the fuck was venser... Probably bullshit.

>>53568971
>>53569008
~60 years ago, as per Ravnican dating.
>>53568890
And a rando artifact that kinda looks like Memnarch would be a Memnite!

>>53569019
Basically. Venser should have been a seriously old man by that point.

>>53568950
I'm more concerned with how anybody got to Mirrodin to see Memnarch, given that Memnarch was capable of locking Karn out.

Thanks for the feedback folks. Wasn't quite of the sympathy link needed for legendaries (Memnarch's a huge bomb in Doomsday Machine, so I thought I'd be remiss to not include him), but the other stuff I felt like I was a little out on a limb about, so I'll just go back to the drawing board on the story and dial some stuff back.

The idea is that he visits Mirrodin post Fifth Dawn, after the plane's unlocked. Doing that because Mirrodin's where I started seriously playing Magic and it's probably going to be my favorite plane for ever and ever.

quick bump because I'm making a sheet RIGHT NOW, and I don't this thread to die before I do.

>>53569210
Rule of thumb is 'do not include important canon characters/artifacts in your snowflake's backstory or in your snowflake's deck.'

Just include the basic cards that make Doomsday Machine work, you don't need to include every single card. Just like, nine or ten that define your character. That section is meant to be a collection of favored spells, not a deck list. So choose nine or ten cards out of the ones you've put on there and use them instead, and maybe choose three or four of the artifacts carried and use them too.

>tl;dr
Involving canon characters in your snowflake is bad.
You don't need to put an entire deck list in the favored spells section.

>>53570825
Hurry up my dude

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>>53571399
JUST ON TIME.

I actually made a card for this guy and the basic idea for him (Aven walker with gideon style indestructible and menace) just after Amonkhet was announced, around two Snowstorms ago, and was hoping that Amonkhet might fit with the kind of character ideas I was throwing around. Turns out, they worked great!

>>53569138
I think the answer is time spiral nonsense, but honestly I'd love to have Old Man Venser during all the New Phyrexia shit. It wouldn't have really changed much plotwise, and it gives a chance for some cool parallels with Urza.

>>53568971
>>53569008
>>53569019
Venser is one of a few characters who got super slow aging from drinking out of an unsavoury puddle.

>>53571741
I'm diggin' it.

>>53574875
Oh the magic of Urborg, how we miss thee.

>>53573187
>>53569019
Obviously he just used his Dawn Charm.

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I'm behind on lore right now for magic.

Can someone redpill me on what happened in the latter half of Kaladesh and what Amonkhet is all about please?

>>53578197
Same with me but from what I can gather:
>Rebels win
>Much rejoicing
>Dovinns like "ehh whatever"
>Oathwatch hears of bolas from tezzeret
>Want to go check out his shitty plane
>Ajani tells them their retarded and he ain't going
>They go anyway
>Gideon does his own thing for a while, meets a gay lover who is infatuated with the gods (dejru or something) and a beastly women who hates them (samut)
>Other four gatewatch being autistic/ADD/ocd like usual
>Gideon does the trials of the gods to see if he can get bolas to come
>See liking it at first but realizes people are insane and throwing their lives away
>Drops out after 4th trial
That's basically it so far, there was a good story a couple days ago about how ravnica is fucking up again cause jace "the shitty guildpact" hasn't returned for like 3 blocks (most of zendikar, shadows, kaladesh, and now amonkhet).

Someone correct me if I've missed details or just generally fucked up.

>>53578197
I stopped reading Kaladesh because it got boring so I can't tell you about that.
For Amonkhet...
The GATEWATCH (TM) arrive in Super Bolas World and immediately get attacked by zombies and sandwurms and a zombie sandwurm. EVERYTHING IS DEAD oh wait there's a bigass city that isn't so they go there.
People there are all 20something at the oldest, most are teenagers, everybody is obsessed with being /fit/ as hell. The GATEWATCH (TM) durdles around for a bit trying to figure out how anyone can be happy in Super Bolas World.
Gideon finds religion, again, and falls for Cat Head.
Chandra wants to start another revolt because she's Chandra and that's her favorite hobby after setting things on fire.
Liliana tries to find one of her demons, gets caught snooping around.
Nissa gets mindfucked by Emrakul. Best story of the block, honestly.
Jace exists?
Then Gideon finds out that OH NO THE TRIALS ARE BAD because he gets thrown into Murder Simulator but everyone else in there was cool with it.
Also there's Samut who doesn't like how things are because everything they know is a lie. Her bestest bud is one of the people who Gideon was going through Murder Simulator with, believes super hard in the Gods and Trials and shit because he's a thickheaded shit, they had a friend who died when they left the city, said dead friend was a better character despite existing for half a story only.
Then the GATEWATCH (TM) decide to free all the dissenters but everyone gets caught anyways and have to fight the last trialgoers. Nissa can pick up and throw Jace, there's a lot of bickering and it's obvious it was written by multiple people due to how things jump around and then Djeru (the living bestest buddy) is deemed worthy but Gideon and Samut won't let that happen. Hazoret wails on Mr Invincible for a while before realizing that OH SHIT THE GOD-PHARAOH IS COMING GOTTA GO and end.

>>53578197

Aether Revolt:
>Consulate cracks down
>Renegades go full Rebel
>Tezzeret is being a Jackass to Rashmi to make her finish the Planar Portal faster
>Baral goads Chandra into being a big stupid baby and nearly gets killed
>Dovin Baan arrests Baral not for being evil, but because he didn't file the proper paperwork
>Liliana goes to kill Tezzert because fuck that guy
>At the same time Rebels attack the citadel or whatever
>Liliana is about to kill Tezzeret
>Tezz says something about Amonkhet
>Chandra straps herself into a rocket to blow up the Planar Bridge and Gideon hops in to be cushioning made of abs, pecs, and friendship
>Rocket crashes into bridge, destroys the portal and allows Tezzeret to planeswalk away before Liliana can kill him
>The War is over! The Consulate purges the assholes and recruits people like Chandra's mom
>Amani joins the Gatewatch
>Liliana reveals Bolas is behind the entire thing, and is on Amonkhet
>Ajani says "Guys, give me two days and we'll bring together an army of Planeswalkers to fight Bolas"
>Jacetice League nods their heads yes, then when Ajani leaves they go to Amonkhet anyways

>>53578280
>>53578410
>>53578435
thanks guys

>>53579160

Amonkhet:
>Gatewatch planeswalks to Amonkhet
>And right into a sandstorm
>They are attacked by Zombies
>Then Sandworms
>Then Sandworm Zombies
>Turns out anything that dies turns into a Zombie
>Macro Furry Gods save the Jacetice League
>Gideon wants to tap dat Cat's ass
>Follow them to a city
>Enter Naktamun, the only place where people have a pulse on the plane
>It's like Logan's Run, except there are mummies doing all the chores while the people train
>People gather round, Liliana successfully rolls bluff and tell the people they were on a secret mission from Bolas, who has his horns plastered on everything like it's fucking Disney World
>They hear somebody shouting The Trials are a Lie, the Gods have been brainwashed, Jet fuel can't melt steel beams
>Are told not to worry about it
>Gideon wants to hang out with his Cat Waifu, who knows his real name
>Chandra and Nissa go exploring, find out there used to be 8 Gods
>Nissa goes full Vulcan and mind melds with Amonkhet
>Turns out Bolas showed up 60 years ago, raped the plane into being on life support and then brainwashed her kids
>After slaughtering all of the adults, Bolas turned Amonkhet into Hunger Games, Egypt edition
>She tries to tell Gods, but he's too into his new Waifu
>Gideon starts the trials
>Jace and Liliana find out the zombies are controlled by Cartouches then run away
>Nissa finds out the Gods are bundled Leylines, pulls the Crane God's strings to make him let her go, thus gaining Blue Mana
>Trial of Ambition, Gideon's new friends die off one by one until there are 9 left, then CrocoBitch makes them kill eachother down to 4
>Gideon says fuck that and walks out
>He realizes that all of the Mummies are people who died in the trials
>Gatewatch meet up, plans what to do
>Liliana reveals she's here to kill her demon
>Jace knows he's being used, but that pussy game ridiculous
>Chandra calls him out for thinking with his dick instead of his brain
>They all decide to find Jews did 9/11

1/2

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>>53580349

>Enter Samut, the Bad Card Art
>Flashback to childhood
>Her, Nakht (the only interesting character in Amonkhet) a bird person, and Djeru (who Gideon watched drown his crop mate to give as a gruesome valentines gift to Bontu, Crocobitch) are all friends
>They go exploring in the city
>Samut has been looking at old buildings and finding out hieroglyphs to walk like an Egyptian too
>Nakht found a hole in the magic wall that keeps Naktamun safe from the zombies, sandworms, and sandworm zombies
>They go exploring, find ruins
>Carved in the ruins are Bolas's horns, plus the word "TRESPASSER" in all caps
>Suddenly they are attacked by zombies
>Nakht tries to lure the zombies away with flight
>Gets sucked up by this guy
>Samut and Djeru escape
>Djeru goes full Sky Wizard worshiper, Samut goes full fedora
>Present day
>Samut has been finding all the old Hieroglyphs
>They really activate her almonds
>Bolas was the one behind 9/11
>Runs outside and tries to red pill the normies
>Instead they try to arrest her
>She evades capture, sends a Mummygram to Djeru
>Tries to drop a truthbomb on Djeru
>Djeru has had too much koolaid to drink
>Djeru leaves
>Samut has to save him
>She goes to Hazoret the Pervert
>Tries to convince Haz that Djeru should be spared, despite the fact Djeru had been working on his gains his entire life to impress Hazor-Chan
>Hazoret won't do it
>Samut drops a red pill: Bolas isn't a god, just a dick, and brainwashed Hazoret from being a Fertility/Mother Goddess into an Executioner
>Hazoret doesn't believe Bolas-sama could do that, has the mummies arrest her and throw her into the re-education Sarcophagus with the other dissenters
>enter the Gatewatch

Part three coming

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>>53581031

>Gatewatch shows up to save the Dissenters, busts them out
>Just in time for everybody to be captured and thrown into a cage match
>Djeru is there too, headlining
>Gatewatch are stripped of their magic
>Ballroom Blitz starts playing
>Hazoret fills them with her might fervor
>Everybody starts fighting
>Without magic, Jace, Chandra, and Liliana are useless
>Nissa literally throws Jace into another guy to take him out
>All the while Samut and Djeru fight back to back, having forgiven eachother
>Gideon gets a cut in his arm since he can't go invincible
>Freaks at the sight of his own blood
>Eventually it's just Djeru, Samut, and the Gatewatch
>Hazoret calls up Djeru and Samut
>Samut knows not to go up there, like a black woman in a movie theater knows what's going to happen in a horror movie
>Just as Djeru is about to accomplish the goal he's been working to his whole life, just as Hazoret is about to strike him down
>Samut dives in to save him, and Gideon cockblocks him
>Djeru is inconsolable
>Goes a little crazy
>Suddenly it's time for Bolas to show up
>Everybody runs off to meet Bolas-Sensei
>Samut to fuck up his plans even further, Djeru to suck his cock to get into heaven
>Gideon stands there like an idiot because Hazoret told him
>"Sure, I couldn't pierce that boypussy now, but you are no God and somebody's going to"
>Gideon is scared for his boypussy

And that's about it, sorry for the over-memery. But shit's stupid. The best part of MtG is the planes, and using those planes as backdrops for the Jacetice League to act out their plays is dumb as fuck.

I blame MaRo and the Magic the Gathering movie.

>>53571741
Love love love it dude

>>53580349
>>53581031
>>53581284
I read the stories and that was terrible.

Honestly I wouldn't mind the Gatewatch story line if we just got a proper introduction to the plane.
Either go back to releasing three sets, or just throw up some information online. That way we get to see more outside of what's important to the story, and the planes could see a lot bigger.
Might not help with Amonkhet seeing as how it is stuck as just being one city; but Kaladesh was more than just The Inventor's Fair.

Should Artificer even count as a Class on it's own?
Like an Artificer isn't... a good description on what sort of magic your character uses, but provides good background fluff for whatever they do.

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Is it still cool to do short stories with your flakes? Or is that considered too autistic, and just stick to the design thing.
Also, tried making a planeswalker card that suited Thane, but not quite sure. Was thinking I could do something a little different. Any feedback would be cool.
Starting loyalty 3.
> +2 Sacrifice a land you control. Give target creature 3 +1/+1 counters.
> -3 Destroy target creature, and add mana equal to its converted mana cost to your mana pool.
> -7 You get an emblem with "Whenever a nontoken creature dies, put a token that's a copy of it except it's also a Zombie onto the battlefield under your control.

Too powerful?

>>53585454
nah it's cool still. It's just that no one is making them because we're all pieces of shit who never produce any actual content.

Regarding the planeswalker, there's no coherent theme. He just has three effects that fill out his colors. Also, we can't really give an accurate interpretation of its power level without a CMC/casting cost.

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>>53585558
I made an old draft a while ago, before I changed the name to Thane. I should have mentioned casting cost, but I usually assume 5 for walkers, with win con activated at turn 8, since most games should be over by then, or going to drag out for a while.

>>53585454
>Is it still cool to do short stories with your flakes.

I did it twice in this thread even. It's fine.

>>53585558
>coherent theme
Forgot to mention theme - he's >>53531632
So his main skill should either be his Sharing of power between living and dead, or flat-out demon-nomming his own guys and overconsuming the mana lines for more power.
In >>53585625 I tried to work in a counterspell effect, but then realized that was retarded.

>>53585625
>counter target spell
>counter target NONLAND spell
>on a planeswalker
holy shit nigger what are you doing

>>53585625

You can't counterspell with a planeswalker. They act at sorcery speed.

>>53585665
>>53585678
Way ahead of you senpai
>>53585658

With all these questions about fake cards, I'd like to pose a question to the thread.

What does/did your flake look like at the height of their power? Think Jace the Mind Sculptor

>>53585696
Jace the Mind Sculptor makes Jace seem stronger than he actually is.

>>53526737

What is the font used for the text there?

>>53586096
It's called Jace belaren
You can google it and find it

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god DAMN this kid is edgy

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>>53556412
Excuse me?

>>53556412
This annoys me not because of Samut. That's a "whatever"
It's because it's ANOTHER fucking RG walker.
Fucking enough! Give WR or RB a new walker.

>>53587093
You mean 'give monogreen a new walker' right?

>>53586796
He looks like a cool dude. Would get into a bloodlust and accidentally murder own village with/10.

If you're interested in toning down the edge, you might edit his story to he was born in a lower caste, and although valorous, was told he couldn't advance without a divine sign. The demon then goes 'Wahey, magic sword' and then immediately afterwards 'psych, you're my bitch now. But cool powers'.
Might help tone down the whole "fuck you, state-dad" aspect to more tragic anti-hero thing, but your choice. He's pretty cool as is desu.

>>53587074
>Home Plane: Ravnica
Oh boy! My favorite!

>Twisting Mizzium
Mizzium is a metal that is supposedly indestructible (though that's probably not quite true), but can't be broken down and reshaped even if you heat it back to the levels that it was created at.

>Rakdos Bloodwitch lives a home life
That's so unlikely it hurts.

>Rakdos destroys the theatre because he was bored.
This is funny, because it's basically what he does.

The way she reads feels like it should be more blue.

Would you put an artifact creature/artifact too big to personally cart about in favored spells?

>>53588051
You definitely wouldn't put it in equipment.

Admittedly, I've put them in equipment on a sheet before, but then put in a note about it.

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>Ruric Thar having anything to do with a spell
Explain the lore here to me, please.

>>53589135
Gruul calls lots of things spells. Some of them are as simple as "kill your guy with my big stick."

>>53589159
Shouldn't it also do 6 damage to you?

>>53589164
You're not actually using magic. You're just hitting something with a stick. That's not magic. That's physics.

>>53589170

Hey, if magnets are miracles, physics can be magic.

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My first attempt at a snowflake, an energy-happy artificer with a tendency to leap before she looks and a desire to improve.

She might be a bit generic (Especially with the favored spells). I tried to keep it to mostly spells she could have reasonably learned in her limited plane jumping experience (Since she's only barely visited anywhere but Kaladesh). Hope she's not too terrible.

She also ended up a bit generic as energy support is only a single block thing and rather limited if you want to do control.

>>53589170
Ruric Thar usually thinks otherwise.

>>53589245
> Caladesh
Otherwise, seems ok. Onokke were about dark magic artifacts, not artifice, right?

>>53589345

>Caladesh

Dammit, failed to catch that.

And yeah, the Onokke are the assholes who made the chain veil. Alyssa is not full of good decisions (But has learned her lesson on that one).

>>53589135
This spell emulates breaking a defensive force in a way similar to Ruric Thar bashing aside some stalwart guards.

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So, I'm beginning to empty out my half-finished flakes. This guy is #2 after the nameless guy up there.

>>53589245
I like it.
>>53589264
Maybe he's biased, but would YOU hit yourself in the face for 6 life just because someone calls hitting a guy with a stick a spell?

>>53584596
I read the stories and found it a very good summary.

>>53585696
Mine ain't no oldwalker.
They're only getting stronger, baby.

>>53589245
I like that she has a simple but good goal. "Stop slivers" is something easy to wrap your head around and understand as a motivation.

Quick bump just to be safe, I've got a flake I've written up that just needs images glued onto it

>>53591054
Take your time my dude

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>>53591054
Here it is, my first snowflake. I tried to lean more towards to more compassionate side of Red especially since there's already an aggressive flake

it's really hard to find art of a vampire that doesn't look like gay

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Updated.

Color combinations we only have one of:
>Selesnya
>Abzan
>Mardu

>>53585558
I need to start making comics again. I guess, if anyone enjoyed 'em last time. Buy to do so would require me figuring out a main cast, again.

>>53591995
Your own characters, whatever they might be.
Hroth is widely enjoyed.
Cala is widely waifu'd.
Petra gets lots of commentary, positive or negative.
Ashlyn might be good for a gag or two since her character revolves around swallowing noxious fluids to gain their power.
Celuel is Gaia 2.0 so something needs to be done about her.

Just a few ideas. It's your decision though.

>>53585696
Stax, and Kherto, are never really powerful on each's own. What passes for power by stax's metric is based entirely on how crippled opponents are by resource denial. It all depends on how big, and how crucial, what it's hosing is.

>>53588051
Depending on what it actually /does/ since artifacts' designs aren't set in stone, it isn't impossible to have a miniature version. E.g., a knowledge pool as big as a frisbee, since its size has no bearing on its magical effect. If you want, like, an assault suit ot gearhulk, adversely, you may want to make it a spell.

>>53592037
Good suggestions! I'll probably do like last storm I missed a few weeks of and compile a list for my top from each 32 (?) Color combos, and progress accordingly. I'll keep what you listed in mind, as well

>>53588047
>Rakdos Bloodwitch lives a home life
Why is that odd? The Rakdos don't seem like the type to have ample living space available unlike other guilds.

>>53592332
The witches rank at the very top of the Guild, basically acting as Guildmasters while Rakdos sleeps or just otherwise fucks off and doesn't wan to do anything. Also, given what they are and their station, they tend to be the most sadistic people you'll find just about anywhere. They also constantly compete with and try to get in each others' way to be top dog in Rakdos' eyes.

So to me, it's pretty hard to imagine one making themselves that vulnerable going through pregnancy, and also pretty stupid to try to have a home life.

>>53592531
You raised some very good points there but I still wouldn't say its not possible.

>>53592037
I want to make a Blue/White mage from Esper, but I'm having some trouble in picking out a type of magic; I'm going either for a mind mage (but that's just Jace! I feel) or a geologist with rock/sand magic.
One feels too blue, the other too white.

>>53593053
Blue using earth magic only works when coupled with BFZ's Awaken magic.

>>53592531
>>53592531
While I admit you raise good points, it's notable that her mom was bad at it by block standards
She basically rose to prominence with people OUTSIDE the guild during that nice in-between when Rakdos was asleep between Ravnica and Return to Ravnica, when the guild is actually pretty lax about guild stuff.
Remember, the cult doesn't go full Rape and kill for fun except when the demon is awake. Then they lose their minds.

Also I picked Ravnica because the options for artifice planes outside of it are very limited. I think we currently have Kaladesh as the only representative that doesn't need to be removed from the multiverse.

I admittedly don't know much about Mizzium, but there has to be ways to manipulate and use it because fucking everything colored bronze on every Izzet card is made of Mizzium.
Also, I think you're talking about darksteel

As for the blue, I disagree. Her artifice is very impulsize, a sort of "wake up and put shit together" sort of style that happens to work because she's good at it. It's a red style of artifice. She doesn't study, nor does she really stop and think about what she's doing.
That and she's motivated by a quest for enough power to keep Rakdos asleep even if they have to punch him out everytime he wakes up.

>>53587550
>Both of monogreen's planeswalkers fucked off to go multi-color.
It's actually kind of funny. Poor luddite color. It's basically impossible though without going to a not!buddhist plane with a character who just goes "Free your mind to what is" like a not-robotic Zenyatta

>>53593556
Yeah. I don't really understand why Nissa's blue now but I'm willing to wait and see where it goes.

>>53593615
She got into an argument or something with the blue god on Amonkhet and he half converted her to blue when she fell mouth first onto his leyline and he filled her with blue mana.

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>>53588047
>>53593321
Alright, did some more looking into Mizzium and it's definitely not indestructible. It performs extremely well under heat, is incredibly durable, and is a flame retardant metal but it can be broken.

>>53592531
>>53592730
>>53593321
To be fair, a Rakdos Bloodwitch not putting enough effort into her performance in order to keep Rakdos sated due to her having a husband and a child worrying about? That's more than enough reason to be fucking eaten by Rakdos.

>>53594619
>Rakdos falls asleep
>The Cult, basically being Ravnica's entertainment industry calms down and normalizes so that Ravnica can enjoy basically Ravnican Hollywood again
>Rakdos wakes up, the crazies fucking lose it and the "normie" entertainment gets purged as the guild goes full crazy until Rakdos falls asleep again.
>Continue ad nauseam.
This shit probably happens to the cult all the time. Mom just picked a bad time to have a kid and a normal life.

>>53593283
I'd have thought that making it more science-y by making the walker a geologist would have made it seem more Blue.

>>53594785
Blue basically just doesn't manipulate rocks. It's not in its color wheel. White and red are the primary earth and rock moving colors, hence why anon pointed at Awaken.

>>53594828
Since we're here, what's the flavor/lore of what the moonfolk do when they bounce a land?

>>53594828
Dang it, the only Blue/White magic that really sticks out to me is the Azorius from Ravnica with all the law mages. Can't do that on Esper.

>>53594942
If you're from Esper, there's pretty much a 95% chance that you want to be the artifact guy anyway. That's really all Esper had before Bolas Cornflux'd the plane.

>>53594888
Typically bouncing a land isn't actually doing anything to the land itself, so much as it's disconnecting your mana bond to the land, leaving you to sort of flounder and try and reconnect it.

>>53594982
I was still planning on them relying on artifacts, but less on etherium.
Right I wanted them to be more like a geologist, studying the different types of magical rocks, mana structures and so on.

>>53594982
>>53594888
If I have to take a guess, it's shrouding the land in fog and mist as a byproduct of their magic or perhaps in order to fuel their magic. Playing the land again is clearing the mist/fog/clouds.

>>53595198
>magical rocks
Red. For man-made magical rocks, white.
>mana structures
Green and blue.

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>>53595198

Having a geologist on Esper isn't at all out of the question, since they'd be surveying the land to strip mine it further.

At that point, you get to do all sorts of fun stuff with eroding the rocks with Blue and then using White to manipulate it further. Though, to be fair, Blue/White usually reads "Master of the skies" to me more than it does the mover of the earth.

>>53595793
So you are saying that I should add either red or green to this character and they're make more sense?

>>53595815
The Azorius are too good at what they do.

>>53595815
>>53595198
I'd stick to two or three blue cards about artifacts, two or three white cards about artifacts and then a whole bunch of gem/stone-themed artifacts.

Suggestions:
>Chromatic Star
>Cumber Stone
>Darksteel Ingot
>Dreamstone Hedron
>Fellwar Stone
>Khalni Gem
>Magewright's Stone
>Meteorite
>Oblivion Stone
>Pentad Prism
>Thorn of Amethyst
>Thrumming Stone

>>53596309

Red is typically associated with the Earth in a way the other colors aren't. There are a ton of miners in red, tunneling creatures are typically red, etc. Red makes the most sense for a geologist type character. How you fit that into Esper, I have no clue. I mean, if the character's Spark Ignites before the Conflux, then you can say they did a good job at keeping their use of red mana (which would have to come from Mana Bonds on other planes) hidden, or something.

>>53592037
Ashlyn's more about killing something and drinking its blood.
(there was that time with the sangrite crystals but that was a cult thing)

>>53587550
I'd like to see one that focuses on green's stubbornness and resistance to change.

>>53596618
The best way to do an alara character is they don't quite have the "correct" tendencies for the plane, and once the conflux happens or they planeswalk then that part of their character blossoms.

Like, they won't have red mana or red magic while on esper, but just a bit more of emotion and passion than is comfortable existing there. That will manifest as a red color identity once they aren't cut off from it.

>>53509353
How interested would anyone here be in an RPG for Magic that allows you to use (most of) the cards as you would normally? I've had a few years playing with the idea, but only recently got serious with it.

>>53596626
>I'd like to see one that focuses on green's stubbornness and resistance to change.

I can see somebody like that helping the Gatewatch when it comes to real extraplanar threats, like the Eldrazi, but would not want to be involved in a conflict like Kaladesh. It's true that the Gatewatch got involved because of Tezzeret, but he mostly just exacerbated the problems that were on the plane rather than being the cause of them.

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>>53596618
Green is at its best when it's more than just muh plants and trees.

>>53596618
Red only cares about rocks when it's dealing with things like mountains. Or mimicking volcanoes by making magma or lava.

White has Lithomancy as well as all those Abzan/Dromoka sand-mages.

>>53596728

I like him. He can be both hero and villain without a change to his actions or ideals.

>>53596909

I still think UR makes the best sense for geology. Lithomancy is practiced exclusively on Zendikar, and you really wouldn't call a sandmage to help you properly document the layers of a sedimentary rock. Red and Blue make the best combo for understanding geology, Red's naturally ability to manipulate it plus Blue's urge to understand makes them the natural color combo.

Of course the only character we've seen who really gives a damn about the geology of a plane in any significant way is Nahiri, when she was exploring Zendikar after Liliana blew up the Helvault.

So, there you go.

>>53594942
Blue and white care about the proliferation and preservation of the way things should be, for the benefit of everyone. This can be anything from being super-anal about the law, to dedication to the concept of civilization, to shaping and sculpting the land as you desire to whatever the fuck you like. The key aspect is control. As long as your character is devoted to controlling whatever they're built around, it's pretty easy to make them white and blue.

>>53596909
Red cares a lot about rocks and stone. It's just that those spells are typically affected by the number of mountains you have because mountains are typically good sources of rocks. See cards like Torrent of Stone and Jaws of Stone and every card with "boulder" in its name

>>53591765
What would a good RBW planeswalker be like? Are the actual Mardu a good representation? They valued community but only in the act of self preservation and desire to rule Tarkir. I'm thinking I could've made Orlov Mardu colored

>>53599862

A mafia family (That actually believes in the family part) wouldn't be a bad representation. Community, Ambition and a violent disrespect for the law.

>>53599941
Okay, I see. I always thought of the mafia organizations like Orzhov, but with how forward they can be with violence the red does make sense

>>53599862 >>53599941
The problem is that the Mardu (and the Mafia family example) is that they're organizations. It' easy to say that the Mardu are RWB and overlook the fact that individually there are some Mardu who are RB, WB, or just plain White, Red, or Black.

>>53599862
If you're talking about "good" as in morally good, then I'd probably say that the idealistic principles of the USA are RWB.
It's a nation like any other but there's a massive amount of focus put on the right of a man to forge his own path and shape his own destiny, that no man allow himself to be restrained in body or in spirit and that anything can be accomplished through blood, sweat, tears and ambition. No one has the right to restrain your passion or hold you back, the only boundary keeping you from what you want is yourself. So go and achieve greatness in the land of opportunity.
A land where you're meant to be free to do as you please, free to achieve as much as you wish as long as it does not hinder the collective whole. Through pursuing personal success, you will bring the rest of the nation with you to greatness as well. A nation where ambition is rewarded and freedom is paramount.

>>53596696
I already have a group I play with where we do that. 30 card decks, mana p/t is determined by the stats you have, casting a card (spell or creature) as a utility makes it start in exile until they rest again.
It's been bretty good so far desu, although there is a bit of powergaming behind the scenes.

>>53596728
> Hates people who challenge destiny
Thane's fucked if these two meet.

>>53599862
I like applying black's paranoia to RW's sense of justice.
Black just doesn't understand morality and limiting yourself like that. It assumes people aren't stupid and will do anything they can to get what they want. Because that's what black itself would do, and it's obviously the best way to go about things. Black is the most likely to sleep with a knife under its pillow, because it expects others to be like it.
Red and white gets strong senses of retribution, justice, and payback.
So with black added, you can get some nice "preemptive retribution" going

Everyone's out to get you and looking out for themselves. You'll get them first though, and punish them for what they're going to do.

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Finally got my shit together and worked a little on this, I know it's awful. Can't guarantee any updates, although I'd like to write one or two stories in the future to flesh her out more.

>>53601542
I'd always felt red/green was the whole gruul savage angle, but hey it looks neat. There seems to be an emphasis on walkers being travelling nobodies, so having someone run a cafe because they llke it is nice change. She could serve as a meeting point for a few characters in the future since we know they interact

>>53602110
And black is the evil color and white is the good color and blue is the smart color and red is the dumb color.

>>53602161
I meant r/g when applied to characters was an action-heavy color, not that they're exclusive. Quit projecting.

>>53602497
Learn the meaning of words before you use them.

>>53602110

All the colour combos have a fair bit of room for them.

It's just WOTC tends to keep it's stuff within set lines to make sure that decks of those colours are easier to build (So red/green is almost always big stompy creatures). Which makes sense from their perspective.

>>53602510
Says the guy snarking without contributing. Try giving some feedback on other stuff in the thread instead of just being a smarmy cunt.

>>53600187
My version is a module for the cypher system (same thing numenera uses) it's about halfway there. mechanically it's ready, it just needs some further definitions and fluff. I learned a lot about the story of magic doing this so far and definitely want to release it to you guys in the near future.

>>53602862
I feel I should bring your attention to https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Magic:_the_Gathering_RPG
We run ours based off this, except instead of spell slots, etc. we have the mana cost for cards, and essentially 'play' a game with them. Usually they're things like short, 3 round encounters, but boss battles or other walker fights can run for upwards of 45 minutes.

I'd also like to say, this page is a great source of information for flake building.

>>53601542
>"Home"
>Many

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This is a character I had in a campaign twice, once before he ascended as a main character, and once afterwards, though more as an NPC than an actual character.

We didn't want to step on the toes of established lore, so we spent a while building up "Iblis" as a custom plane we could run our campaign in, but by the second campaign we didn't care as much about that anymore, and the characters walked from Ravnica to Innistrad a few times. At that time Ravask was living in Ravnica, where he was attempting to fit in with the Rakdos, though their overly violent antics didn't much suit him.

I tried to make him different then the typical black or red character, in that he doesn't embody red's violence, but its desire for adventure and need for new experiences. The black side of him lies in the fact that he will never aid anyone without first entering into a pact, one that usually has a steep downside.

At his best he is curious and understanding, at his worst he is spiteful and cruel.

>>53602946
I think i was unsatisfied with this one, but i'll definitely take a second look and see if i can't get some inspiration to improve mine.

Where do you guys get your art? I have the outlines of a Flake, but really can't find any art that I feel would work for it. Is there like a fantasy art booru or something?

>>53606150
I Google image searched mine and prayed I got lucky. Same with names.

>>53606150
For a lot of my custom cards and walkers I either trawl the art threads on here, or use Artstation and just browse the fantasy tag. I've got a bunch of stuff saved, and I cherry pick what might work with a walker I've been thinking of.

What kind of art were you looking for? I might have something.

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>>53562675
>Phyrexia is confined to Mirrodin
Fuck's sake, lore is the whole point of this thread, please make sure you fucking know it before you run your mouth.

>>53606150
I can't speak for anyone else in the thread, but I generally use Artstation for my flakes.

>>53606150
You can get a decent number off pinterest if you're okay with shamelessly stealing other people's stuff from a sub-par website.

>>53606723
Sorry anon, but that's more than 21, bust.

Link to the discord for the interested. It's where we all hang out when there's not a thread up, and we do a bit of discussion here as well.
https://discord.gg/U75Uxwf

>>53606203

I have had no luck there.

>>53606388
>>53606468

Is there anyway to actually search Artstation? Seem cool, but I'm stuck on Mobile for the time being.

As for what I am looking for it's male blacksmiths, but something that works for the character I have in mind if easier said than done.

>>53606701

Going on Pinterest definitely ain't worth it.

>>53607535
>Going on Pinterest definitely ain't worth it.
I found a few good things there, but I agree it's a trash site to use all the time.

>>53607535
Anything more specific than blacksmith? What kind of creature type, and from what plane were you thinking?

>>53607942

Human, early 30s late 20s, and Ravnica most likely, though any European style setting would do.

Thanks, this is much appreciated, even if you don't find something that works for me.

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>>53608401
I'll post a few I found on artstation.

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>>53608557

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>>53608568

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>>53608588

If a walker were to change perspective would it be better emphasize colors they're already in to reflect their new point of view, like Ajani leaning towards his GW side or just give them a new color entirely to show change, like Sarkhan gaining U?

>>53609582
To better explain, I'm thinking of making a flake from Grixis that tries to turn over a new leaf

>>53608588
This would be great for a geistmage.

>>53609720
I might actually make that now, Geistforging could be a cool idea.

>>53593615
Emrakul happened.

>>53606150
I commissioned it because I'll probably use my character art elsewhere anyway. I gotta learn how to 3d print so I can make a figure for him, too.

Which plane had guns again? I'm gonna make a really stupid flake.

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>>53612663
I'd bet SOMEONE on Ravnica or Fiora has made one, but the one people usually think of this guy from portal.

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>>53612663
>>53612889

Dominaria, actually. Portal Second Age took place on the island of Caliman, where you had the human kingdom Alaborn, the Nightstalker lands Dakmor, and the forest of Norwood. Alaborn had guns, which really aren't that out of place, but Wizards seems to think so, so we'll never see them again unless we get magic guns or something on a Wild West plane.

That actually might be kick ass, Magic guns that are loaded with different shells each containing a different spell or something.

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>>53612889
>>53613143
Alright, thanks niggas, stupid flake incoming as soon as i can think of a reason for him to end up on Kamigawa and pick up a katana

>>53613195

I approve of anything that references motherfucking Red Steel 2.

>>53613195

Wait, I got it. He was born in Madara from the Umezawa family which was reduced to servants for the Nekoru, and had heard legendary tales of their family's founder, Toshiro Umezawa. While he's a young kid, just barely learning the art of the sword in secrecy, the Nekoru find out that members of the Umezawa family is going to make a play for power and displace the Cat Dragons in charge. Your Flake's family is thrown under the bus, and they have to escape Madara by boat. Massive storm, etc, and your flake is the only survivor and washes up on the shores of Caliman, taken in by a family in Alaborn and learns Marksmanship. All this happens when they are about 10, maybe 12, so they'll grow up mostly in their adopted culture but remember their young childhood and stories from it.

Eventually, life and death experience and the thing on their mind as they face death is going to the land Toshiro came from, BAM Spark Ignites and they are in Kamigawa.

>>53613143
Wizards has decided that Guns ruin the feel of fantasy and are therefore forever banned in magic, even on the planes where they REALLY SHOULD EXIST
Magic trains and cars however are totally fine though

>>53616179

Magic guns could work. Just leave out the gun powder and make it clear it's the breaking of a capsule containing a magic spell that pushes a magic bullet.

>>53617838
Hell the old 3.5 DM's guide had a section about adding guns, and a picture of a dwarf with an awesome boomstick rifle carved to look like a dragon. That's the kind of guns Magic should have.

>>53617838
"Can do" and "should do" are two totally different things.

The moment you go into practical guns, the whole thing changes forever.

>>53620457
My vote would be princess mononoke tech at best. Matchlock rifles are the absolute height of gun technology, and aren't very widespread because it's like a shitty firebolt you have to reload, why would you ever.

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Hmm. I've been gone for far too long.

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>>53621176
Hey Vronak. Stole your character and made it my own, by the way

>>53621578
Helm is a little big.

But, that looks amazing.

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>>53621578

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>>53622719
don't reply to me you cunt

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New flake. This one's an explorer who got fucked up by the Eldrazi.

>>53623648
So he's part Eldrazi?
Seems more like Emrakul's thing

>>53623879
Nah, he just got some of his mana consumed by an Eldrazi drone, so he gained proficiency in colorless spells. That's why he has all those Devoid spells in his list.

>>53623980
I was looking at them and it gave me the feeling of he's an Eldrazi secretly but doesn't know it. Thanks for clarifying though, would invite on an adventuring party. Like the idea it sounds like he's psychologically scarred from the Eldrazi, rather than actually dying in his current activities box.

>>53623980
Sounds like that one "non"-Eldrazi chick from the last snowstorm.

>>53624034
I mean, his flesh is slowly crumbling away due to his wounds, so he is kinda dying, but he's also psychologically scarred.
>>53624044
I don't know what you mean. Honestly, he's not meant to be a 'secret' Eldrazi or something, it's just that he actually was wounded, both physically and magically, by an Eldrazi drone, and it's influenced his spellcasting.

>>53624094
Right, so he's got Eldrazi stuff in him. Most people who get smacked by an Eldrazi just sorta lose limbs, or their connection to magic, they don't become more powerful/learn some cool eldrazi mana-draining magic as a result.
Also seems like it'd be really hard for him to draw on mana.

>>53624107
...but he did lose magic though? As well as a portion of his flesh, the fraction of both of which is slowly increasing. And he is weaker. I'm sorry if that didn't come through in his sheet, but it took him literal years to be able to control magic the way he used to again, and occasionally things still go Horribly Awry when he tries to cast a spell.

>>53624138
Ah, now you see if you put Horribly Awry in his equipment panel, it'd make more sense.

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>>53624154
Good idea.

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CHALLENGE
Post a custom card with your 'walker mentioned in it, and provide feedback for others.

> this might be too OP

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>>53627341
A rather unconventional blue tutor for Hroth. This may also be overpowered, in one way or another,

>>53627384
Flip the cost, casts 1 more to cost for each card in your hand, and it works better, both thematically (because you've reached the end of the journey) and mechanically. Otherwise, there's a chance someone could get this turn 3 and get a quite powerful card out of their deck.

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Made another card, bumping with it.

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A card for the Nameless.

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A card for that pirate dude I almost forgot about.

>>53628585
This card should either be an enchantment or expire at end of turn.

>>53512944
No it's not

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>>53627341
I'm not a writefag for a reason. Also, probably busted.

>>53627384
>>53627405
Looks good to me, 2 extra blue to remove Merchant scroll's color limitation seems fair enough, and it costing less for knowledge accrued makes more sense to me. If you're ready for a maze's conclusion, I would assume you're more likely to have a full head instead of an emptied one.

>>53628585
Consider putting some timing on it, so it goes away EOT or has a reminder it lasts indefinitely.