What should I do?

>>53498935
>Roll20 isn't my kind of thing
Then you need to make it your thing.

Outside of going native and learning to like what your players do, it's about the only option you have.

>>53498991
Ah, goddammit, I'll probably try it, but, is it worth it to play without camera/voice?
>learning to like what your players do
It WAS fun the first dozen times, but I really can't stand it anymore.

>>53499193
>is it worth it to play without camera/voice?
Probably. I've been doing it most of the time, and text only has its own merits. Try both if you can, though, and make your own conclusion.

Oh, yeah, and I was thinking of making a "serious" VtM campaign to see how they will react to it.

>>53498935
Talk to your players about playing another game. Subtly hinting that this time it will be more serious

>>53499733
This.

Talk to your friends and tell them how you feel. Burnout happens.

>>53499556
how did you plan on making it serious?

>>53499733
>>53499556
This is what I'm thinking of doing, and I talked to them, problem is, they played the cRPG, and what they have in mind is playing as a bat shit crazy Malkavian and pursue debauchery.
>>53499825
I'm making the campaign around the idea of Sabbat being involved in organized crime, I have some ideas, like making the characters ambivalent and ambiguous, although they all have their quirks. Also, I'm thinking of making it "hilarious" so they get accustomed to the game, and then abruptly change the tone of it. I mean, I'll have to railroad them a bit, but MAYBE it will help.

>>53500204
>I'm making the campaign around the idea of Sabbat being involved in organized crime
you're giving them 'vampire mafia' and not expecting them to go ridiculous with it?

>>53499556
>>53500204
Sorry, didn't read your post, long day etc...
Well I think you either need to talk to your players and figure what each of you want. If they want to play something you don't want to run and vice-versa its not going to work.
I kinda experimented a similar thing when I had players that only did shit fantasy before that. Took 3 quarters of a game to teach them 1890 tokyo isn't D&D clone n°1493. Had to tell them loud and clear that if they're seen wearing weapons without being accompagnied by an officer they'll be shot dead without questions. No respawns.
for the story : Had another group with the same setting after and it ran absolutely fucking smooth. So yeah players are a big part of the equation like it or not

>>53500339
Probably, but only Mafia films they have seen are The Godfather and Once upon a time in America, so no Joe Pesci impressions.
>>53500421
I'll try to talk to them, and I'll see how this campaign goes. After that, I don't know, maybe I'll try Roll20, or make one of the players be the GM (this could end badly, though).