Warhammer 40,000 general /40kg/

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>>53494244
First for the Guard

my dudes > your dudes

Do we have rules for Ahriman, Magnus and Exalted Sorcerers? Or Tzeentch Discipline?

>>53494274
im in ur baes
killing ur d00ds

>>53494211
Could this mean that there are Flesh Tearers chapter tactics different from the Blood Angels ones?

>>53494273
If regular plasma only gets hot when overcharged, then Equivalent Points of Plasma Guardsmen >>>> Everything

Also, character combat is now defined by who charges first.

Penitent Engine: 6power for 1, 18 for 3
M7" WS3 S5 T6 W7 A4 Ld8 4+

Make PE great again!

Repentias are still shit thou. Even worst than before.

>>53494244
Where the fuck is last thread OP

Tyranids are back again

You will get drowned in Carnifexes, Trygons and Genestealers

>>53494274
but i play alpha legion. my dudes are your dudes, you just dont know it yet

Last thread suggested the trukk leak was fake; anyone got sauce? ItalianFag can back us up?

>>53494313
For Magnus yes, search for it in the previous thread
No for the others

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>>53494274
>any dudes in all the galaxy better than the front liners of the Greater Good
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Anyone compiling all these in a text document?

ITLT
This guy
!ANTyy6lxtE
These leaks
>>53494150

Eldars:
Scatter lasers are 36" Heavy 4 Ap0

Inquisition and Grey Knights:
Inquisitors can enter any Imperial vehicle and give bubble buffs to Imperium keyword units, depending on the Ordo chosen
Grey Knights know a nerfed verison of Smite, 12" 1 mortal wound (3 if Daemon keyword)

Necrons:
Reanimation protocols are made at the start of your movement phase. Roll aD6for every slain model, on a 5+ it comes back. You can roll again in the following turns. You cannot roll if the whole unit is slain.
Living metal allows for automatically regaining lost wounds
Basic Gauss is 24" Rapid Fire **Ap-2**, Gauss Cannon isAp-3 DmgD3
Discipline 10
Warriors cost unchanged form 7th.
Monolith M6" W20 S8 T8 Save3+, Gauss Flux Arc Heavy 3 S5Ap-2, Whip Heavy 6 S8Ap-2 DmgD6. When it gets charged, roll on aD6and if 4+ (or worse, depending on wounds lost) charging unit getsD6mortal wounds.

Space Marines:
Grav is S5Ap-3 and does DmgD3 if Save is 3+ or better
Nartecium no longer providesFnPbut heals a model for D3 wounds

Tau:
Markerlights are cumulative per phase and provide different bonuses, depending on how many hit the unit. Basic is reroll 1s, then you have remove cover bonus, increaseBS, use Seeker/Destroyer Missiles (normally snapshooting)
Railguns have a chance to do Mortal Wounds
Activating Nova Reactor may result in Mortal Wound
Firesight Marksmen are Independent Characters
Pulse rifles are AP0. Pulse BlastersAP-1 at 10" andAP-2 at 5", Assault 2.
Ghostkeels and Stealth Suits give a -1 malus toBSif shot at from more than 12", can deploy outside of deployment zone at 12".
Broadside Railgun is Heavy 2 S8Ap-4 DmgD6,HYMPis Heavy 4 S7Ap-1 DmgD3
Pathfinders and Kroots are faster than Fire Warriors

>>53494330

But my dudes are bugs

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>>53494326
So this is the power of a Kellydex... woah

>>53494323
And 95pts a piece. Unless they get since useful upgrade, they kinda suck.

>>53494326
B-but Guilliman told me they were now a meme faction. Which he totally has lots of experience fighting against.

Let's say (theoretically) 8th is a bit of a mess on launch and takes a while to get going like Sigmar did. Or maybe I decide I like 7th better and want to play 30k since it keeps the old rules.

If I start a new army, what could I possibly play across both (maybe with some magnets for weapon choices). Fallen? Knights? Did any knight houses stay pretty much the same from heresy to present?

most useful post of last thread, leak compilation
>>53494150
>>53494150
>>53494150
>wtf I love tripfags now

>>53494330
Ha! Then your dudes are a bunch of faggots!

Mephiston

M 7" /WS2+ /BS2+ / S 5 / T 5 / W 5 / S 2+
His sword is S X2 / -3VP/ D3 Wounds
Ignores Wounds and mortal wounds on a 5+
Casts/Dispels (with an added +1 bonus) 2 powers and knows 3 Powers fromBAdiscipline

Tervigon

M 8" /WS4+ /BS4+ / S 7 / T 8 / W 14 / S 3+

Creates a unit of 10 barebone termagants or can add up to 10 dead barebone termagants to an unit (not over the unit size at the start of the game)

>>53494367
Demons are coming to 30k soon. And demons are the universal army.

>>53494273
Demolisher is even worse than the battlecannon, d3 shots against units smaller than 5 models, d6 against 5+. S10 with I think Ap-4. Less shots mean even less potential wounds.

>>53494353
I really want to see the rules for Markerlights in more detail. That's gonna be what makes or breaks Tau.

>>53494337
It's not from the italian forum. The italian leaker just posted the Battlewagon stats.

>>53494359
They always sucked.

>>53494376
>>53494353
those informations were already confirmed last thread
>>53494352
>>53494372

>Firesight Marksman are Independent Characters
Nice, perfect time for some conversions. Hope breachers arent bound to the firewarrior movement speed, they need to be able to close that gap

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Question time
>How many new players have you pull into the hobby?
>Who they were for you?
>How have you managed to talk them into 40k?
>Which faction have they picked as their first one?
>Are they still playing?

>>53494410
We are already "everyone has FnP" tier.
Outstanding.

>>53494410

BA are the only chapter that can jump pack assault in normal missions? GW why?

>>53494433
Remember you can advance and fire assault weapons now. Even if fire warriors are move 5" or something, you can advance for that extra few inches and potentially use markerlights to make up for hitting on 5s

>gee space marines, how comes mom lets you have two faction focuses?

>>53494452
By that logic, Blood angels are also the only chapter to get ATSKNF

Can't wait for new PRIMARIS Dante to headline the new BA book.

>>53494410
where is that from?

I'm torn between starting Primaris BA or just regular Vanilla Marines. I'm afraid GW will say Cawl wiped out geneseed flaws, making BA, SW, etc, play like Vanilla marines. Any suggestions?

>>53494410
>Jump pack assault
I assume that's just snowflake deep strike

>>53494489
Wait?

>>53494473
the sons of Sangui haven`t fear

>>53494489
>>53494410

>>53494483

The new Index?

>>53494443
1) one to the game and another to the lore
2)they are the kids i guard
3) fucking space marines i swear to god
4) dunno

Q: How can you tell which company a Dark Angel belongs to?

A: You can't because they all have dirty knees

>>53494489
We have already seen that they don't play the same way. They are also different section in the "codex" and all of them have exclusive kits, which means rules for them

Trygon? Shrikes? Ravenors?

Wulfen
M7" S5 T4 W2 A3 4+
ignore wounds on 5+
if killed can still attack before being removed
can advance and charge and reroll charge
Bikes, infantry and cavalry gain +1 attacks and reroll charge if within 6" from Wulfen. 12" for blood claws.

Frost claws S+1 Ap-2 1 damage.

Great Frost Axe Sx2 Ap-3 Damage 3 +1 attack if charging.

Lightning claws S User Ap-2 1 damage, but +1 attacks if 2 of them.

>Magnus
>T7 W18 4++
>S16 Ap -4 3 damage in melee

Geez. Wonder is his TSon buff applies to him as well.

Has it been nerfed?

>Riptide

>M12" BS4+ S6 T7 W14 2+ 5++
Nova reactor gives moral wounds
can put wounds on drones

>Heavy 8 S6 Ap-1 damage 1

>72" heavy 3 S7 AP -3 damage 1

>can overwatch if within 6" from a charged unit (generic Tau rule)

>>53494525
not our fault your mom likes in dirty in the mud like the pig she is ;^)

>>53494353
>Monolith M6" W20 S8 T8 Save3+, Gauss Flux Arc Heavy 3 S5Ap-2, Whip Heavy 6 S8Ap-2 DmgD6. When it gets charged, roll on aD6and if 4+ (or worse, depending on wounds lost) charging unit getsD6mortal wounds.

Enough to make Monoliths good again?

Anthem of this thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3OMjs4Y7a8

>>53494497
No patience. Literally none. I'm a grown man with a wallet and very little self control.

>>53494443
>7 friends in 6 years
>Friends from uni, girlfriend
>4 Spess Mehreens (UM, BA, DW and SW), 1 Orks, 1 CSM, 1 DE + Harlequins
>3 do in plastic, the rest sold out and play on TTS

>>53494443

>How many

Hundreds - I worked for GW for 9 years.

>Who were they

People who walked into my store. Current gamers friends, family, etc.

>How did I convince them

I ran a really fun demo game and then found out what they liked and tried to match up aspects of the hobby with that.

>Which faction

I don't think there is one faction that I never saw picked. Obviously stuff like SoB was way less common, I think out of the major supported ranges I least often saw Tyranids as their first pick.

>Are they still playing - some are, some aren't.

Go on fb: story.php?story_fbid=1953057281580462&id=100006286268244

Eldar will be interesting

We've lost a ton of survivability with the battle focus change because we can't dash in and out of LoS anymore, but on the other hand it seems like every squad is getting crazy special rules to make up for how squish we are now.

>>53494560
>Has it been nerfed?
Unlikely. Got to wait too we see a price tag

>>53494443
5 people
3 online friends, one who got me into it then stoped and i got him back in, one friend i hang out with alot.
online friends were getting sick of vidja so i said why not miniatures, close friend we were hanging out and i needed to bring my paints out of my car and we started talking about it, friend who used to play got re interested seeing me at LGS on facebook
2 picked tau, 1 necrons, 1 marines, 1 chaos

>>53494583


SM POINTS LEAK

>>53494536
Are you sure about the claws?

The Lighting Claws, gli Artigli Fulmine, are now S:User, Ap-2 1 Damage
The Frost Claws, gli Artigli del Gelo, were AP2, but now have the same AP as the generic Lighting Claws
And what about the Wolf Claws, gli Artigli del Lupo, that were the ones that were actually Lightining Claws +1S?

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ITS HAPPENING

>>53494540
he better have something defensewise to make him not super squishy

>>53494622

how the fuck do you access that ?

>>53494531
see >>53494372
if it's not in there we don't have it and there's no point in asking, the Italianfag just translates it as it goes

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Has anybody posted anything about Astra Miliatrum (Imperial Guard) yet?

If nothing else I'd really like the FULL stats of a Leman Russ.

>>53494323
source?

>>53494622
repost here pls

ITALIAN FAG
GIBE INFO ABOUT TALONS

>>53494326
I wonder if dakafexes are still going to be good. My guess for devourers are assualt 3 s6 ap0 (possibly -1). So TL would be 6 and two TL would still be 12.

>>53494688

You do realize he is just translating from another forum right?

So drop pod armies are no more a thing?

>>53494244
I don't understand. Why version 40.000? Just call it 40, those zeroes are pointless

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Compiled last thread translations into a single file. Didn't sort it out.

>>53494660
likely filtered by the spam bot but type
Facebook com/story.php?story_fbid=1953057281580462&id=100006286268244

>>53494708
It's missing all the Ork leaks, i.e. trukks/battlewagons.

>>53494628
I confirmed that it's been leaked that way. Frost claws being Ap-2. But the guy could have made a mistake.

>>53494708
Thanks for that, anon

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>>53494717

>>53494701
You do realize he has access to the forum so he can kindly ask right?
You do realize I do not need to give him specific instructions?
You do realize you are a fucking faggot?

>>53494742
Make Immolators great again!
Oh wait they where already great.

>>53494367
Orks you'd be able to play across 30k and 40k I believe.

>>53494723
I used this post: >>53494150 and nothing else.

>>53494742
>Autocannon S7 AP-1 D2
>Assault cannon S8 AP-1 D1

Who the fuck would sacrifice 2/3rds of your dice for +1 strength and +1 damage? What could you possibly need that +1 strength for in this edition? And who gives a fuck about +1 damage when you can roll 3x as many dice?

Did these cunts even read their own rules before writing this shit?

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>>53494763

>>53494778
>20 points for a power fist

Any leaks for the Legion of the Damned section of the index?

>>53494779
No rules for any Xenos in 30k.

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>>53494799

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>>53494536
Leak anon could you please post Maleceptor stats? I desperately need to know if they made this piece of garbage useful.

>>53494829
>terminator ancient

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>>53494772
> Lighting Claw
> Re-roll wound
> +1 atk

>>53494466
Because Space Marines make money. People that don't even know what 40k is can spot a Space Marine, they'd never recognize a Necron or Genestealer Cultist.

Sorry Guys, the leaker said he has to go home and he can't take the Indexes with him. So no more leaks for today.

>>53494829
Could you always give a Teckmarine a Jump pack, man I was missing out if so

>>53494778
Combo and power weapons ended up a lot cheaper than I expected. Generally looks like point hikes for ranged and decreases for melee

>>53494244
>Flash Gitz aren't random anymore
I literally bought 10 of them because I love the models and enjoyed playing Skaven and having stuff working one turn and being absolute shit for the rest of the game.
Oh well, there's still the Shokk gun
Oh well

>>53494867
You can always use obliterators if you need some randomness in your life anon

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>>53494841

>>53494794
Assault cannons have always been better than Autocannon.

>>53494703
You can't deep strike (most) of an army anymore, but as long as 50% of your models are on the table at the start of the game, you can deep strike the rest.

>>53494857
No, they were limited to bikes before

>>53494895
Wow, thank you!
So we don't know yet whether this is a new terminator mark or not...

>>53494829
7e death company are the same price as Death company with jump pack in 8e

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Based on leaks, how are Tau and Nids doing in 8e for now?

>>53494922
It isn't, it's just a standard carrier in terminator armour. A dude with a flag is called an ancient for space marines.

>>53494664
Nobody gives a shit about the Autistic's Pick™ army

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>>53494858
>plasma pistols don't all have gets hot now
>they can also run an upgraded version that does more damage but has gets hot
That's actually pretty nifty.

>>53494794
>>53494902
did you factor in the range?

>>53494825
Well that's fuckin boring.
30k is shit unless you're a Space Marine fanboy.

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I'll post this here incase someone wants it.

>>53494949
Depends a lot on points and the specific rules for markerlights.

>>53494947
Stormbolters are RF2?
What are Combibolters then?

>>53494794
Against models with 2 wounds it actually make a difference. Because of new wound allocation, when suffering only a single wound you can spread it around the entire squad. Having a 2 damage attack nips that in the bud.

excuse me where are sisters new models?

>everything costs less points
Scale creep continues. Pretty soon a 1500 point game will look like Epic.

>>53494959
Bruv it's not an upgrade, it's a firing option. You can choose if you want to kill yourself or not.

>>53494949
Tau:
No longer able to just sit there and kill everything with overwatch. They need to fall back, and then kill everything with overwatch. The only change is your firewarriors might have to backpedal once or twice per game.

Nids:
Unstoppable killing machines... if their codex is good. The Swarm will fucking Devour.

>>53494950
Yeah ok, but what I mean is the ancient in the starter set is an enchanced veteran using primaris armor

>>53494949
Carnifex spam is back

>>53494959
Its two profiles on the same gun. You choose each time you fire

>>53494742
Ahahahahaha, Thunderfire Cannons nerfed all to hell! On average it kills 2.96 termagants if they're not in cover!

>>53494809
Predator Autocannon
Heavy 2d3 damage 3 autocannon

Holy shit!

>>53494708
Much appreciated

>>53494922
It doesn't have that " Primaris " keyword.

>>53494952
Artillary-focused guard makes a very effective ally for Space Marines. 2 basilisks and a russ make outstanding support.

>>53494977
>Everything costs less points
>Models start off cheaper and have to pay points for standard upgrades. Ranged weapons in general are more expensive across the board

Yeah

>>53494967
Danke.

I AM SO THIRSTY FOR TYRANID LEAKS. POST SOME TYRANID LEAKS I NEED IT.

Respectfully request Crusader Squad information.. please!!!

>>53494947
That blood talons man, holy shit.

>>53495002
Good point. I wonder if new terminators are slated for release yet.

>>53494947
Don't stop now anon, We need to know the other BA, the SW and the DA

Disappointed at the lack of power lances, I know they weren't popular but this is the edition that could've brought them back.

>>53494967
Did you fill in the holes?
Wow, anon, you're one of the heroes of this thread, with the italianfag and the BAfag.
this thread has been so shit for so long, how come we got so many heroes today?

>>53494664
battle cannon is shit and tyranid warriors will be laughing while they walk through several blasts.
exterminator autocannon better in everyway

>>53494892
They honestly look fun as fuck now. I'm kinda jelly, really wanted the FG to play like that.

FB leaker hit me with some ork stuff cmon I need it. Trukk stats PLS.

>>53495046
They're still around, what are you smoking?

>>53494966

Uhh yeah, the whole point of 30k (which isn't really 30k) is to play out the Horus Heresy.

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>>53494972
Incorrect.

>>53494972
no, you're still supposed to allocate wounds to guys already wounded first

>>53494895
>>53494895
Dear anon, Gibe chapter tactics (if any) for Codex chapters!

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>>53495059
WE NEED ALL ORKS STUFF, ALL OF THEM

>>53494947
Chapter Tactics and Black Templars Crusader Squad please

>>53494895
No black rage...interesting

>>53494960
Admittedly, an extra 24" of range is okay. But you should be getting in people's faces anyway. That little extra range may be useful occasionally, but being able to roll 3 times more dice is better in EVERY other situation.

>>53495063
I know they exist in the weapon profiles, but looking at the death company squad etc. they can't take them. So far has any leaked profile been able to? It's like they're in limbo.

Any news on Primaris Grey Knights?
Or anything new for the boys in silver?

http://imgur.com/a/gu4pw

missions

>>53495106
Black rage is only for the Death Company stuff not normal BAngels

>>53495072
>>53495073
>everyone uses the cripples as meatshields
Kek

>>53494708
>A single Carnifex can kill a Riptide in one round of combat
HOLY SHIT BOYS.

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>no Tyranid leaks
>no GSC leaks

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Most, if not all, the Blood Angels units and rules on "L'Astropate" on Facebook

wwwfacebookcom/LAstropateNewsERumorsDiWarhammer40000/posts/936052346537144

>>53495109

I think the idea is the TL Autocannon sits on the other side of a ML and that dread hangs out in the back instead of playing aggressive. It gives a nice complimentary weapon to a support dread.

>>53495118
wouldnt bet on primaris Grey Knights, remeber how selective they are in the first place

>>53494983
>>53494990
Well, fuck. It isn't making the choice any easier. I don't even want a waacfag army - just something that is not auto-lose or one-list-army

>>53495125
isn't there some kind of BA USR?

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I NEED DE LEAKS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>53494976
In the cuckshed with their fans

I am really worried about Ahriman, to be honest. 99 point drop is some serious shit, one has to wonder how much have they nerfed him to accomplish that.

>>53495138
Every point spent on an autocannon is a point not spent on an assault cannon. And the man in me cannot accept that.

>>53495134
Nigger we just found out the Carnifex is half price

>>53495143
Red Thirst

>>53495134
There's been tyranid leaks you retarded roachfucker

>>53494809
>Repentia cost as much as death company
QQ

>>53495165
ITS NOT ENOUGH REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>53494443
>How many new players have you pull into the hobby?
two
>Who they were for you?
close friends
>How have you managed to talk them into 40k?
one loved the assthedicks of necrons. The other had endless discussion that trpg based on 40k is ass, so i pulled him into wargaming
>Which faction have they picked as their first one?
Duh, necrons and dark angels
>Are they still playing?
Necron guy yeah, DA player paints, but never plays

>>53495142
Play Orks and stop caring altogether.

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>>53495134
>no Tyranid leaks
incorrect

Anyone got the profiles for Berzerkers?

blood angels leaked

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334013-full-leaked-blood-angels-rules-other-space-marine-prices/

>>53495176
You can stop falseflagging any time

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>>53494799
MY BOY PEDRO BACK AT IT AGAIN!

Are model costs not counting weapons?

I need good news for Sororitas

please, I'm dying

I'll do anything

>>53495155
Me too, he costs as much as Tiggy now

>>53494846
That is hardly an argument since marines are shoved into everything.

How much is due to its own popularity and how much is due to them being shoved into everything is hard to tell.

>>53495220
seems so, although a lot of units have free weapons (like bolters and stuff)

>>53495064
Other factions still existed.
Humanity fighting daemons is the big thing in 40k right now but stuff like the war for armageddon wasnt just tossed out the window.

>>53494778
>Powerfist costs the same as a thunder hammer EXCEPT when a character uses it.

Is there any reason not to use a Hammer barring the hammer causing you to not be able to shoot?

>>53495227
you've still got the boxed game coming out the tail end of this year
hahahahahahahaha as if

>>53495227
die faster

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>>53495207
I love you anon, full homo.

>>53495227
They're not squatted ! That's some good news, right ?

>No price cost for unnamed character options
I'm happy with the rest but DAMN am I salty about this.

>>53495187
Nah. I like the greenskinz aesthetic and fluff but Tau and Nids are top tier for me

Please, anyone heard anything about Crusader Squads or any of the Chapter Tactics?

>>53495220
Nope.

>>53494561
Dude you're a pigfucker

>>53495238

Right - but the rules aren't actually called 30k. They're actually rules for playing the Horus Heresy. FW didn't write the rules so you can play games during that time, they wrote them specifically to replay and replicate battles from the Heresy. You're mad because the game system doesn't do something it was never designed to do.

>>53495227
Natfka leaked their entire fucking army you dumb faggot

>>53495192
>>53495168
Where can I read them?

>>53495122
THIS IS HUGE

RULE OF ONE CONFIRMED

TSONS BTFO

>>53494795
>volkite charger
help somebody call forgeworld !

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>>53494443
>How many new players have you pull into the hobby?
Seventeen I can remember.
>Who they were for you?
8 close friends, 3 acquaintances, 2 girlfriends, 2 girlfriends of friends, 2 friends of friends.
>How have you managed to talk them into 40k?
All of my friends play 40k. We always have, since about 3rd ed, although I played Rogue. Being surrounded by us all the time inevitably leads to a choice: leave the room when we start to talk about 40k, and get into heated debates about whether Guilliman is actually Alpharius, or learn what the fuck we're talking about. From there it's easy. I sell a bunch of shit on ebay, it's half my income. 40k is a big part of our group and our lives, so it's hard to be a part of it without getting into 40k at some point.
>Which faction have they picked as their first one?
The vast majority of guys went for Space Marines. The vast majority of the girls went for Eldar.
>Are they still playing?
Close friends are all still playing bar 1, he died a few years ago though, so not blaming him. His fault for fucking up his FnP vs Cancer. 2 acquaintances moved out of the country, 1 still plays. Girlfriends come and go, but one of them still plays, despite us not being together. Girlfriends of friends are both still playing, surprisingly, they're both still with my friends though. Both friends of friends stopped playing, but we still know them. I helped them both sell their models when they didn't want them anymore.

>>53494809
Mmmmm looking forward to plasma sentinels. (Assuming heavy plasma cannons)

Any idea how Gauss will work in the new edition? Something like a damage bonus on 6s to wound?

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Hey, guys. Need to W40k and models and stuff. Ran into a problem building my first Chimera today.

The problem is I glued my hand to it and there's a lot of skin stuck to my turret now.

How can I get it off?

This Storm Bolter is a fucking BITCH to get on.

>>53495313
They can still all cast smite. That's D3 mortal wounds for each psyker at least.

>>53495331
How the fuck did you glue your hand to it enough to take a visible amount of skin off.

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>>53494772
>Chainsword, +1 attk
"Awesome, they gave it stats"
>Combat knife, +1 attk

>>53495134
never seen this image before thanks for giving me a proper fucking chuckle

>>53495331
file/sanding block m8, I know that feel

>>53495331
Step 1: Get your carer to handle the glue for you.
Step 2: See step 1.

>>53495356

Chainsword would have been better with -1 AP, and the Combat Knife can keep its extra attack.

>>53494577
>working for GW
shill

>>53495312
here
>>53494708

and the tyranid faction focus

>>53495307
>Repentia nerfed into uselessness
>Retributors nerfed
>Dominions can't outflank
>no Multi-Melta listed for Retributors
>Priests and Jacobus can't buff Sororitas, they're BFFs with Imperial Guard now
>Only option available to buff Acts of Faith can't do so from a transport, or the turn it exits a transport
>Celestian Command Squad just straight up gone

I said good news, anon....

the shittacular formatting of that leak had me hoping it was unreliable/fake

>>53495356
>>53495377
The extra attack thing is literally just there in place of the +1 attack for 2 CC weapons rule. Chainsword or combat knife, it's there to let those bolt pisolt + 's weapon guys get the same number of swings

>>53495338
They have baby smite

>>53495328
Ap -2

>>53495388
Hush you Mantic sandbagger.

>>53495388

I don't still work for them at this point. However I did often post on /tg/ when I did - though they never paid me to do so.

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>SAG is boring and ass now
>Just finished mine

no many rules pages in big rulebook ;( more than 150 of fluff pages

>>53495356
Until now they were the same generic ccw, which could have lead players to equip their models with either in the same unit, so they were basically "forced" to make them the same otherwise people would have complained

Maybe next edition they'll be different

Or, at least, that's how I interpreted it

>>53495396
I didn't think it was possible to nerf repentias and retribution so much

Fucking squat the army if you hate it so much

>>53495348
I squeezed my tube too hard.
>>53495359
Thanks you.

Scions leak when. Need to know how my boys fared.

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>Ahriman 131 points in the new edition

Damn ... this probably means he's been nerfed into the ground ...

At least Rubric marines will be 18 points, way more reasonable than what they are now.

>>53495396
It's going to be more heavy/special weapon spam and cheap 9 point sister hordes.

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>>53495420

Jesus

Melting guardsmen, mowing through eldar, even cutting down marines

Good time to be a necron

>>53494536
rhino rules? What makes them worth 70pts?

>>53495435
Scions are part of the Imperial Guard. You can still play them seperately thanks to all the FOC there are, but they are no longer a standalone codex.

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>>53495423
>SAG has always been my favorite part of the Ork codex
>Have 3 Big Meks with SAGs
>One is custom converted on a bike

I know your pain anon

>>53495207
Hmm wierd, I don't see Death Company Chaplain anywhere.

>>53495239

It might only be available to certain units, who may already be expensive.

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>>53494799
Two Different Calgar's listed? New plastic Calgar in Artificer armor? Sign me the fuck up.

>>53495463
>What makes them worth 70pts?
All the cheap transports have nearly doubled in cost.

>>53495433
>I didn't think it was possible to nerf repentias
GW found a way.
Try would have been meh, had they stayed there same, but they were made worse.

>>53495444

>131
Ugh, why do they do this? Is it really going to unbalance it by just making it an even 130?

>>53495456
You really can't wait to feel like an Eldar, right?

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>>53495423
>Obliterators are lame as fuck now
>I play IW

I feel you, Greenskin

>>53495480
Calgar always had the option to be in termie or artificer

Have we had a Land Speeder datasheet yet?

>>53495476
Hopefully it is otherwise its a straight upgrade for units with the ability to take both.

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Looks like Volkite got rules in the index. Does this mean Volkite is going to get 40k rules or is it to just keep the HH models up to date

>>53495491
Rules were blurry as fuck why do they suck now?

>>53495487
They also have to buy gear.

>>53495491
but they aren`t. Maybe random so so, but not lame.

>>53495505
>what are tartaros

>>53495493
Huh, i'm retarded then. Does he not have a model that isn't in the termie armor then?

>>53494443
>Many
ZERO
>Who
NOBODIES
>How
BY NEVER SPEAKING OF IT
>First Faction
HMPH
>Still playing?
PARANOID STEALTH-NECKBEARD REPRESENTING

>>53495487
He's favoured of tzeenthc, expect a... 39 point disc.

>>53495506
They arent that bad, chaosfags are overreacting.

>>53495487
It's going to be in even after you buy weapons anyway, and there's a chance they'll have to change it later.

Stop being autistic and insisting the game be balanced around multiples of 5

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>>53495506

Thunderhammer Sx2 Ap -3 D 3 -1 to hit 25pts

THE AGE OF THE THUNDERHAMMER IS UPON US

>>53495506
At best, they are a slightly worse lascannon, at worst they are a slightly better autocannon. Random stats fucks the much as it does everything else. Should give you a bond with Orks players.

>Techmarine can take a Jump Pack
>If he does he loses his Sevro-Arm

What is he going to do then

>>53495539
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo

Is there any word on AdMech/Skitarii yet? I have a whole box of dudes I don't even want to open until I know what I should be building them into.

>>53495486
It feels like they went out of their way to make SoB bad.

When the 6ed codex looks good you know you have fuck up

>>53495533
>>53495506
>>53495491
Don't forget anons

They lost their Powerfists

>>53495548
Blast things with a Heavy Conversion beamer?

>>53495543
>At best, they are a slightly worse lascannon
>Assault 2
No

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I heard a rumor that shit got rough for mechanized IG armies.

Any truth to this? I'm having trouble keeping up with the leaks.

>>53495548
Fly?

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>>53495526
He has this

>>53495555
It feels like the only somewhat positive change was being able to use Acts of Faith multiple times, and even then you'll need a lot of those extra standard bearers to make it work for more than a small army.

PLASMA CANNON SUCKS HOLY SHIT

>>53495550
I still want a pair of those pants. They look comfy as fuck.

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>>53495506
>>53495523
>>53495529
I don't give a fuck if they are good in game (they probably aren't)

2 shots and then random everything is fucking shit-tier design

They have taken the one iconic trick CSM / Iron warriors / whatever always had and shat on it.

Would it have killed them to make up three firing profiles? one for 'flamer' one for high dakka and one for anti-tank?

>>53495533
This shit is an insult to Obliterators, fuck this man daemon engines better be well written

>>53495580
Transports are alot more expensive now because they have MC profiles.
so unless the chimera is somehow cheaper than the rhino expect carnifexes to be cheaper.

>>53495505
Also admech magos has volkite in 40k

>>53495543
The problem is 24" range with 4" movement. It's pathetic. Sure they are assault weapons but that just adds even more randomness.

chaos =/= randomness

Jesus. You'd think GW would know this by now.

Also, no more power fists.

I'm scared to think about what possessed and helbrutes will be like.

>>53495580

Mech vets got better.
Battle tank may have gotten worse.
Exterminator looks like the best variant.
I'm holding out for Executioner and the Punisher though.

Sternguard Bolters and Chaplains are missing

>Blood Angels still don't have access to Cataphractii or Tartaros termies


Thanks GW

>>53495591
Hahahaha you can keep it

>>53495567
d3, damage you need to hit with both to get the same average damage.

>>53495533
HOLY FUCK THEYRE GOOD

>>53495613
Special Issue Bolters AP -2

>>53495614
It's baffling why. With this being the keyword edition you think it would have been easy to stick them wherever

>>53495604

Hey at least you got another wound.

Oblits were the ugliest chaos models, bar none. Get used to change, fag

>>53495611
>The problem is 24" range with 4" movement. It's pathetic.
YOU DEEP STRIKE WITH NO SCATTER AND NO RESERVE ROLLS NOW.

HOW MANY TIMES DOES THIS HAVE TO BE HAMMERED INTO YOUR STUPID HEADS YOU FUCKING KEKOLDS.

LITERALLY AT THE START OF ANY TURN YOU JUST GO "Okay and now my Oblits are here" ANYWHERE YOU WANT MORE THAN 9" FROM THE ENEMY WITH NO DICE ROLLING.

>>53495604
>Iron warriors players on suicide watch as always because now they can't do their autistic mathammer to play and can't accept that a heavily warped unit who literally shits weapon out of his frontal ass works randomly
Why is it always you guys

>>53495524
>Just to keep the H(orus)H(eresy) models up to date

Jesus did you even read the full thing

Im asking whether or not this means *more* models are getting them not *if* were were getting them

>>53495592
You need to buy a model that no one used... to maybe get to use your army theme more than once, with less random chance.

>>53495611

They're M4" but they can also deepstrike on turn one no scatter.

>>53495605
Transports give crazy good mobility now.
>unit within their M+4'' of transport
>advance within 3'' of transport, get in, transport gets to move
Lets assume M6 squad and M10 transport, that's 20'' movement for the squad in single movement phase.

>>53495614
Um, how much crap does BA army have that noone else gets? Cry me da Nile.

>>53495630

feelsbadman. I hope my deathwatch get cooler guns.

>>53494829
DARK ANGELS WHEN
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>53495611
Holy fuck i didn't even notice the movement 4, i was so caught up on the awful gun

Ahaha fuck you GW, what a pile of garbage, they'll never learn. The csm faction focus was a total lie

Fucking bring on the possessed indeed, can't wait to see how trash they are once again

>>53495613
>"Special issue boltgun"
>Range 30'' Rapid Fire 1 Str 4 AP -2 Damage 1

I bet this is what Sternguard fire. Intercessors BTFO once more.

>>53495552
p-pls respond

>>53494795

> stormbolter rapid fire 2 instead of heavy 2

this will be excellent for GK considering by default they all have one.

>>53495639
Assault also means the Oblits can run and still fire. There's nothing about them not being allowed to Advance.

>>53495664
>Fucking bring on the possessed indeed, can't wait to see how trash they are once again
Considering in the page of the White Dwarf battle report we got teased a whole unit of Possessed died from Overwatch fire when charging a single Land speeder, probably still pretty trash.

>>53495680
That's literally the same as a Combi-bolter is now

>>53495664

How is it GW's fault that you're bad? Do you understand how the new Deepstrike special rules even work? You can literally deploy them on turn 1 half way up the field so they're already in range of almost the entire table.

>>53494829
Seth lives

>>53495602
It's great. Wtfv you talking about?

>>53495678
theres a compilation of leaks near the start of the thread.

>>53495639
What you fail to realize is that the appeal of the obliterator lies in its ability to manifest different weapons at will. Take that away and replace it with RNG and all of a sudden it's not as cool anymore, no matter how it plays out in the crunch.

>>53494795
>storm bolter stats confirmed
So they're literally exactly the same as combi bolters now? Lame.

>>53495664
their guns are assault 2 so they can run and shoot at the cost of -1 to hit

Will the Devilfish + Firewarrior with Carbines / Breachers combo be effective in 8th edition?

>>53495533
>>53495604

Th obliterators are clunky as fuck and a sign that Chaos will still be LOL RANDUMB.
New game, old shitty designers.

>>53495710
Yeah, should have at least been assault.

>>53495592
>army who's only long-ranged infantry was Heavy Bolter Retributors and everyone else needed to take the school bus to the front line to do anything with their flamers/meltaguns
>Imagifiers can't do their thing from within a transport OR the turn they exit a transport

the only use I can possibly think of is, on the MINISCULE chance vehicles can use Acts of Faith, parking 2 Imagifiers next to every Exorcist to get Exorcists that shoot twice per turn

>>53494443
>How many
Countless. Used to basically run a FLGS as their 40k specialist. I take care of the local 40k community as well. Good to have people to play with.

>Who
Random people. Many are now friends

>How
By being honest about the game and the hobby, helping them find their own path and not telling them how to build and play

>Which faction
I've seen people start as marines, nids and much more. Practically everything.

>Still playing
At least 75% of them are still playing. We have a very good, friendly, non WAAC faggotry tier local group. Helps quite a bit.

>>53495721
w8 f8 8th m8

>>53495722
Chaos... um...

>>53495709

But you have a bare minimum statline that you know is still a solid gun. S7/AP-1/Damage 1 isn't a bad gun.

>>53495604
>2 shots and then random everything
In unit are 3 obli, each with 3 attack on 2 dice. Total 18 dices with possible STR 9, ap -3 and Dmg 3. This buddies are deadly, IMO

>>53495709
Random for random sake is never fun.

Why the fuck does GW not understand this. Everything is d6 and d3. Dice rolling a lot more now

>>53495612
>Executioner
>>53495602

But wait if you have pask you can swap your 3d3 for 1d6

>>53495429
is a big 40k book, not a big only rules book.

>>53494809
>Reaper Autocannon
I thought loyalists don't use those anymore

>>53495664
>Deepstrike turn one
>Anywhere you want outside of 9'' from enemy units
>No scatter
>Range 24'' more damaging autocannon or double-shot lascannon
>65 points per oblit

Man, the meme that all IW players are autistic as fuck really is true.

>>53495639
Personally I think the weapons are pretty fucking good. Cheap 2+ deep strike weapons squad that'll get legion rules and other shit? They'll be fine. Basically wounding on a 3+ to a 2+, save distribution the same, but D3 damage seems better than most are making it out to be generally.

>>53495757
Tartaros Termies

>>53495754
For you.

Looks like Jumpacks grant fly now?

I'm still reading blood angels leaks but it looks like the characters with them get fly.

>>53495742
And it's only a 3% chance to get that bare minimum statline. Most of the time you'll get something equivalent to a 2-shot plasma gun at full range, or a 2-shot battle cannon.

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>>53494410
>No Red Thirst

>>53495757
Its only on the Tartaros terminators. The assault focused ones that loyalists got but chaos didn't for some inane reason

>>53495664
They deep strike and can do it each movement turn.

>>53495726
Like GW doesn't understand how SoB work for the last 10 fucking years if not 20.

I've been using the same basic list for a decade now

>>53495721
Maybe. Strikers with rifles and devilfish to scoot them out when enemy closes will be a good. We'll see how much it will cost.

>>53495664
WHY ARE IW PLAYERS SO RETARDED LMFAO

I was thinking of starting Iron Warriors this edition but fuck I don't want to be lumped in with the shit heads in this thread.

>>53495703
>d3 hits
>1-2 less hits than plasma
>3-4 same hits as plasma
>5-6 more hits than plasma
Woow,,,, so this is the power... of overpriced shit weapon

>>53495726
Do keep in mind that you can run and shoot with flamers now. Autohit means they don't give a fuck about the -1 to hit penalty.

>>53494443
Bewbs

Shouldn't EVERYTHING get leaked in the coming hours?

I mean, some shops already have the indexes and rulebook and there will be someone who uploads it

>>53495638
>>53495639
>>53495643
>>53495699
>>53495764

Could you dumb cunts learn to read please? the issue here is Oblits no longer have their classic 'Morph almost any weapon you want' ability. Not the actual effectiveness of the guns or unit

I don't care about the 9inch deploy (No shit they can deep strike, thanks like i can't see the text)

Whatever, when you favorite little ability gets gutted we'll see how you fags like it, or how badly you'll try to save face behind the disappointment

>>53495802

I'll take 12" of range for 300 Alex. Also - at most a plasma gun can hit 2 models.

>>53495802
Are you having a seizure?

>>53495779
They are past that point now, only black rage now.
t.Ka'bandha

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>>53495819
I
NEED
DE

LEAKS

>>53495779
that will probably be bloodangeles chapter tactics section

>>53495726
>parking 2 Imagifiers next to every Exorcist to get Exorcists that shoot twice per turn
At 80pts, you should probably just buy more exorcists.

I really hope the leaks are fake