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>>53492390
Old Chapters with new Primaris Marines.

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And because it just popped up, a PSA:
Faction Focus: Space Marines:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/29/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-space-marines/

Someone else can make a separate thread for that, I guess.

>>53492390
>Ultima Founding
Chapter Master Lord Britannicus WHEN ?

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>>53492457

I'll add this just for ease

>>53492406
I like the blades of vengeance

>>53492530

Just tried to use this. Their stupid 'aged' effect made a few of the lines not solid so you can't just paint bucket colors.

Stupid GW

>>53492390
Guilliman too much of a hipster to call it the 27th Founding?

>>53492406
So, this makes me wonder.
Did any traitor chapter have loyalist successors? Or successors that stayed loyalist?

>>53492581
AHAHAHA but anon that's a name you can't copyright :^) you dummy

>>53492530
Fantastic, do you happen to know a compatible font?

>>53492558
Colouring books aren't meant for grown-ups anon, you're supposed to print it off and give it to you kids so they can use crayons to go with the toy soldiers you're buying for them.

>>53492600
Blood Magpies are almost oficialy a Thousand Sons' successor, so yea

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>>53492406

>Fulminators

They are now naming Space Marine chapters after Stormcast Eternal units, kek

I look forward to the reveal of the Concussors chapter of Primaris Marines

>>53492625

Do kids have crayons still?

I imagine a kid trying to paint on a tablet.

>it still remains to be seen if Cawl was able to successfully stabilise any of the known genetic deviations or impart any additional resistance to the effects of Chaos

So, which new mutations do we want bois?

>>53492600
There are those heavily implied to be, like the Blood Ravens, but anything that could confirm it is under Inquisition censorship.

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>>53492406
>They're using Primaris Marines as the standard for marine recognition

It's over lads. Let's go home.

>>53492638
>>53492679
Ah. So after the Thousands Sons up and left into the Warp, Blood Ravens were created from the leftovers implants and stuff?

>>53492406
the fact these aren't all using the same lineart pisses me off

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>my dream of making a successor chapter of the Salamanders without the ugly color-scheme are now lore friendly

Girlyman Rawbooty be praised.

>>53492732
There were thousands of Thousand Sons stationed all over the galaxy who dodged Prospero. The whole 4th fellowship was unscathed.

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>>53492664
Should've called them Fulmentarus, would at least be an ultramarines thing.

>>53492732
The cult of the corvidae was not present at Prospero.

>>53492815
Ahriman was there.

>>53492390
>the Last Founding
Age of Gorillaman confirmed

>>53492732
There are also Vaults on Terra with geneseeds from all Legions, so its possible to make Traitor Legion successors without the influence of the Legion itself.

>>53492428
>Centurions... have been very popular since their release.
>Centurions
>popular

GW really don't have a clue

>>53492390
>Ultramarine successors
>Ultramarines
>Successors

??????

>>53492929
are you legit retarded? Grave-Centurions which they talk about are still Centurions.

>>53492796
Now that you mentioned them...will Guilliman give all Chapters Fulmentarus Termies?

If it weren't for the HH, then Guilliman would've equipped all the Legions with the capabilities to field these guys.

>>53492961
>Just
>Greentext
>Don't
>Actually
>Explain
>What
>Is
>Confusing
>You

???????

>>53492406

I called it.

Primaris is just a way to finally introduce full scale marines in a new mk of armor.

In the future all marines will be Primaris and official "standard" SM texts and prints will feature Primaris marines.

>>53493023
>I called it
Anon, we've known from the day they were announced that old Chapters would use them.

>>53493023
That's what everyone apart from old sm players was thinking and saying

>>53493023
>I called it.

You and literally everyone else with even a passing interest in 40k.

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>>53493062
>>53493057

>mfw I invested like 200$ on SM bits and pieces to make my custom SM chapter and I already had 5/10 custom made SM captains and now they're manlets and literally worthless

>>53493109
C U C K E D
U
C
K
E
D

Might as well throw them in the trash or try to convert them in chadmarines

>>53492854
More as the chief librarian, but yeah you're right.

>>53493109
Just glue them onto stilts, no one will tell the difference

>>53493139

I kid you not I feel like shit.

I spent hours of my life designing the color scheme and organization

I even bought deathwatch pauldrons en masse that had the logo of the chapter

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>>53493109

It looks like most of the size differences are in the torso and legs, so you could probably keep using most of those bits.

Unfortunately I doubt GW is going to just sell those separately, so I'd image we'd need to wait for recasters to get easy access to spare torso and leg bits.

>>53493109
>invested

An investment is something you can reasonably expect to pay back it's value. Your manlet marines are literally worthless, you wasted, you didn't invest.

>>53493023
This was confirmed when it was revealed they could turn existing marine characters into Primaris.

>>53493192

Only heads and shoulderpads are compatible

I also always wanted truescale marines, and tried to make the captains stand out more than average in height

FUCK
U
C
K

I wouldnt mind making the chapter all Primaris but I could have waited some time before throwig all that money into the trash.

>>53493181
Sell them now before all the manlet players start flooding the market with manlet marines

>>53493217
>you can reasonably expect to pay back it's value
What if they pay back their value in fun?

>>53493243

I got that already

But FUCK I could have waited a bit.

Primaris are what I always wanted save for the retarded flying units, and I bet they'll get tons and tons of upgrade / sidegrade parts and pieces.

They already have text decals so you dont have to fuck up with the brush

>>53492743
You know you could have just made a salamanders successor chapter with a different color scheme, yes? Like... the black templar aren't yellow and also have no fist iconography, yet are still imperial fist successors.

How do primaris marines help you at all?

>>53493109
>not adding spacers to the legs and waist to make them slightly shorter than primaries marines

Don't be a bitch and do it, you know you wanted to give them the old true-scaling; now you're basically forced to do it.

>>53492390
So does this mean you can have a Space wolf Successor chapter that doesn't recruit from Fenris?

>>53493340
Sure, they are slightly more stable, with almost pure geneseed.

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>>53493243
Fun is a meme.

>>53493109
The 'manlet' marines are still viable and canon. In fact early plays of the leaked rules suggest they're better than Primaris, the 10 per unit making a big difference to the Primaris' 5 for roughly similar costs.

Most chapters have no Primaris anyway.If you're going to throw an army you putthat much effort into out over memes you're retarded.

>>53493109
Shit man I almost feel sorry for you... sell them

>>53493392
>Most chapters have no Primaris anyway
What.
The only chapter that we know doesn't use them are the Lamenters.
Because they can't not suffer.

Who here /indifferent/? i won't be buying any Nu-marines, though they do look quite nice.

As a CSM player we barely use any power armour anyway, i can live with my Havocs being manlet marines, our Heroes are already 'large'

As Ork/GSC player fuck 'em they will all die the same in glorious CC and they will look good next to Guard/traitors

>>53493404
>>53493392

I guess I'll paint them and make scaled "displays" for them as if they were just old SM armors of past captains on display on the chapter's halls.

>>53493429
Paint them grey and use them as statues

>>53493429
Just use your normal marine army faggot.

Genetic engineering can't beat experience and loyalty to the emperor. Think of it as progression for the manlet marines; they're old and dated but still in the game. It ain't the size of the dog in the fight but the fight in the dog.

>>53493476

Yes but I like the nu-marines and so far I only have five captains, one 10 man tactical unit with meltas and one sternguard veteran.

And tons of bits for customizing manlet marines.

>>53493476
>t. guardsman

>>53492600

The Space Sharks are officially of Raven Guard terran stock but its heavily implied that they scavenge whatever geneseed they could find so some have world eater and night lord gene seed.

The Minotaurs are heavily implied to have weird gene seed, possibly an iron warrior mix

Blood Ravens as Thousand Sons are heavily implied but i really dont see what combat doctrine would make them so. Unless wanting relics and reading are somehow strong pieces of evidence.

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>10,000 Imperial Ace-in-the-hole
>Amounts to getting bigga
Maybe one day you'z gits will manage to do something other than slowly crawl towards da Orky way of doing fings.

>>53493109
Serves you right.

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>>53493109
>mfw I invested a shitton of money into these metal GW figs to field them and now because non-metal figs exist they're literally worthless

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>>53493181

Whats interesting is which chapters would be suspicious and reject the gene seed since that apparently is a fluff point.

I find it telling that neither the raven guard or space wolves are on that list. Probably there will be a super arch conservative marine faction.

Age of Russ when?

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>>53493181
>caring about fluff

>>53493531
>Tfw GW announces Primorkaz-Orkz
>it's just the AoS models holding big shootaz

>>53493563
They look like shit tho

>>53493243
How? GW games aren't fun.

>>53493500
Call them the Veterans of an almost wiped chapter.

>>53493591
So do numarines.

>>53493358
Neat. That means I also have an excuse to not bring any wulfen or thunderwolves or anything

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Who's ready to bet that manlet enablers are actual manlets irl?

>>53493639
Yeah lol sure. Try asking around. Tactical chadmarines look cool as hell

>>53493646
5'7 you got me

>>53493616

But then I'd have to think of a way of implementing them into a new Primarines chapter and I'd have to think what to do with the 15 manlet tacticals I also have, and I'd have to upgrade them to veterans so now they'd be sternguard, but I may as well upgrade them to Primarines because they're fucking manlets

So I might as well throw them away and try to forget I ever spent 200$ on bits

>>53493415
I'm gonna buy some to use as Alpha Legion and Khorne marines, I don't have any chaos models in those legions, and if the rest of my force is gonna be manlets, I'm gonna justify it with the guys who are actually swole being there for comparison

>>53493563
>A. Skull
>Orinoco
>Kribins
>Dimshade
>Ex Brother Marine

Fucking gold

>>53493660
Ah! Knew that

>>53493663
Don't smash your house down because of one misplaced brick; just put them into storage or something until you decide what to do at a later date.

>>53493591
>>53493639
>Any new thing done to this thing will automatically be shit
>The original version of this thing is shit, and is only cool when it is changed to match what I like
I don't know which is more obnoxious, but this is why I pretty much hate all other geeks.

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>They look so fucking good

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This whole "manlet marine" troll bit is /b/ - tier bait and I'm sick of this whole board for partaking in it.

>>53492390
>*Don’t worry – none of the big ones, though Magnus gave it a pretty good go at Fenris…
What the hell is this referencing? I'm not seeing any * in the text.

In some idiots' mind:
>Three years from now
>Show up at game with old marines
>Giant horde of chads around
>people point and laugh at the midgits
>sweaty 300 pound guy eats my army because it's so puny
>I run home crying

Meanwhile, in real life...
>Three years from now
>show up at game with old marines
>'Oh, are those the old models? Cool! I'd never seen them before! Must be nice to have been invested in the game this long!'

>>53493771
MANLET PLAYER SPOTTED

>>53493771
GO HOME MANLET!

>>53493785
There's a spot in one of the earlier paragraphs where they said some chapters were destroyed.

>>53493785
>Many Chapter Planets are now actively under siege, some Chapters are confirmed as destroyed* or lost, and even those faring relatively well have suffered high casualties and are in desperate need of reinforcement.

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>>53493771
>Advocating quality content and posting on 4chan rather than the same shit memes over and over
>Whilst frogposting

Fell and broke your neck at the very first hurdle, but you tried.

>Almost finished painting my SW army sideproject
>once they get their updates it will be all for nought as primaris will ride bigger wolves

I should stick to one army per edition

>>53493771
The terms "chad" and "manlet" are the main cancer that destroyed /fit/ long time ago. I'm honestly worried about it spreading to /tg/.

>>53493771
I assume we're just killing time before the new edition.
Either that, or there's a secret war brewing between /fit/, /k/, and /pol/ for control of this board. Either way.

>>53493861
>>53493872
By the emperor, I'm fucking blind.

>>53493293
I think he means he doesn't want dragon warriors or whatever, as he feels uncomfortable breaching the canon "no known successors, one implied successor".

But I'm just guessing.

>>53493898
Eh, the Cursed Founding is usually good for such things, but it's nice to have a new one to mess around with too.

I had my Chaos Warband be Salamander successors from the cursed founding, since I gave them a dragon theme and a bunch of flamers inadvertantly.

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>>53493771

>>53493524
Lot of psykers

It mentioned some destroyed chapters? Is there a list of the destroyed chapters?

>>53493771
It's a /fit/ meme not /b/.

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>>53492530
>>53492558
Life is suffering

>>53494169
Lamenters
>why else weren't they at Baal with the rest?

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>>53493109

>the state of SM players

What are the chances this guy is going to rush out and buy the new Primaris Marines?

>>53493524

Space gypsies.

>>53494169

We might see some, but GW doesn't like pissing off the fanbase by just looking up old Chapters and killing them off immediately. We might see some newly invented Chapters get offhanded mentioned as wiped out, or just the vague suggestion that they've been destroyed.

Pretty much, it's up to you and your dudes to determine who's been killed off. It also mentions that some newly-created Primaris Chapters will be inheriting the dead Fortress Monasteries of those Chapters who are lost or have died, so it's possible new Chapters have taken up the steads of dead ones, or even that dead Chapters have been resurrected entirely as the new Primaris inherit their old heraldry and traditions as their own.

>>53494247
100%

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>>53493579

>I play 40k for the rules

>>53494169

>Lamenters
>Scythes of the Emperor
>Celestial Lions
>Angels Revenant

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>>53494348
Are there any "Inquisition" space marine chapters?

>>53494277
>Replying to obvious b8
You don't honestly think anyone's that dumb do you? Don't give him an easy (you).

>>53494370
Red Hunters.

Would Red Scorpions accept Primaris given their purity fetish?

>>53494370
Grey Knights, Red Hunters, Exorcists, Deathwatch, probably more especially with homebrew potential.

>>53493181

JUST

>>53494401

Is there anything more pure than Rouboute Guiliman's (gene)seed?

>>53493757
Wish they did 5th company fists. Red Aquila plus black pauldron trim is objectively more aesthetic.

>>53494370
Black Templars are the most friendly. They will also mix perfectly with Inquisition, IG painted as a Inquisition detachment, Blackwatch and Sororitas.

Do my own dudes, or do Imperial Fists?

So Killa Kans are either going to be amazing or totally awful, what is the best guess?

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>>53494490
>>53494422
>>53494396
I think I'm leaning towards the Red Hunters, mainly because I LOVE the Vraks campaign in the lore.

Any yall know what type of red they are? It's hard to tell if its meant to be a bright blood angels red, or more of a mephiston red

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>>53494496
Fists. Remember that black with yellow is also an acceptable color scheme and looks amazing. Pic related.

>>53494490
Black Templar are more buttbuddies with the Ecclisiarchy now than the Inquisition.

>>53494527
I think they're supposed to be a darker red.

>>53493663
Naw man, make em 3 five manlet squads of sternguard, and they plus those five are the absolutely shattered remains of your chapter, and guilliman hooks them with Primarines, with manlets as their leaders and a few battle hardened manlets teaching them all they know.

Or paint their armor over black and say they gave up on life and just wanna all die swinging

>>53494490
>Black Templars being most friendly
>They have 1000+ space marines and they are not codex adherent

Fuck off with that nu-canon from gathering storm.

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>>53492530
I think I fixed it.

>>53494598
That was Legoin Veteran though, aka Black Templar sorta.

>>53493806
>Meanwhile, in real life...
>>Three years from now
>>show up at game with old marines
>>'Oh, are those the old models? Cool! I'd never seen them before! Must be nice to have been invested in the game this long!'

Literraly mever happened when i field my old DE or IG.
Because the scult are fuck ugly comoared to the new, just like the manletrines.
Dont forget to tip your fedora :^)

>>53492666
Blood Angels geneseed gives you wiiiiiiings!

>>53494277
That's why I'm trying out 8th

>>53493429
That's actually a really nice idea. Get some of the older armour marks as well and do a 'history of the chapter' setup.

>>53494767
You're the hero we don't deserve

>>53494277
Older 40k you played for lack of options or models.

Fluffing your own shit is autism

>>53493524
>unusually high amount of psykers and librarians
>Red armour
>Unknown gene seed
>Thousand sons had a corvidae (raven) cult
>There was a speech in one of the Horus heresy novels where a TS sorcerer had a vision of a "raven of blood"
Originally they were a shitty non-canon chapter, but since then they've been canonised and gotten quite a lot of attention from GW, with forgeworld making a horrendous Gabriel model ATM. The Horus heresy quote basically confirmed it, as people were already speculating it when the book was released.

>>53496098

If you're playing 40k you're already somewhere on the spectrum bro

>>53493181
Chadmarines look like shit though, so you'll have the cooler army in the end anyway.

>>53496142

They were canonised before the game even came out in the Index Astartes series

>>53493806
Exactly. Seriously, nobody is gonna ever give a crap. If I played someone running old rogue trader era models I'd think it was super cool.

>>53492390
>"They benefit from three additional organs"

So that's how it works. Wonder what this means and if there's a difference between implanting those into an existing Marine over a new Marine (similar to implanting a child and an adult with gene-seeds).

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>>53496253

Naw, I can imagine people catching crap from some quarters about using 'marinelets' but it would be from people that look like this

>>53492390
Get cucked manlet marine players! Primaris Marines are the best!

>>53492457
>If this unit is killed, your opponent gains 1 VP

>>53496304
Yeah.....anyone who does that should immediately be told to fuck off and be denied games.

Cursed Founding 2 electric boogaloo

Don't mess with the Geneseed

>>53493876
/tg/ goes through phases don't worry about it.

>>53492666
>it still remains to be seen if Cawl was able to successfully stabilise any of the known genetic deviations or impart any additional resistance to the effects of Chaos

You know damn well they are going to be perfect little snowflakes.

>>53496701
remains to be seen bro.

>>53496737
Right because this is Games Workshop TM, there is no way they could fuck this up right?

>>53496701
>implying CSM Primarines won't be coming

>>53493109
Those look dope and I feel for you, but I also have a collection of old crons (first release in pewter), 2nd edition marines, Valhalla Guard with rough riders, etc. It's part of the hobby that new models will make your old ones look outdated, you just got caught at a really unlucky time friend.

>>53493109
The guy holding the sword is cool but I like all of them, what bits were used??

>>53493109
With those Vanguard legs your boys are already bigger than current marines. Especially those with tiny assault marine legs.

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Guys I haven't bought any minis since 4th edition, played/looked at the rules since 5th edition.

What in all-fucks is going on in 40k now?!


PS: Did GW just finally go "WE SHOULD MAKE TRUESCALE MARINES!" and then just do it?

>>53492961
Angels Revenant, Aurora Chapter[3], Avenging Sons, Black Consuls[3], Crimson Consuls, Dark Sons, Doom Eagles[3], Doom Legion, Eagle Warriors[3], Fire Angels[11], Genesis Chapter[3], Helion Legion[53], Heralds of Ultramar, Howling Griffons[23a], Imperius Reavers, Inceptors[3], Libators[3], Marines Errant[11], Mortifactors[16], Nemesis, Novamarines[3], Obsidian Glaives, Patriarchs of Ulixis[3], Praetors of Orpheus[3], Rainbow Warriors, Red Consuls[44], Silver Eagles[3], Silver Skulls[8b], Sons of Guilliman[8b], Sons of Orar[1b], White Consuls[3]

>>53496938

Mostly Vanguard / Sternguard bits , then some 30k plastic bits ( like the thunder hammer and the banner) and some Grey Knight bits ( the relic blade and that guy's backpack )

Then a chaos backpack with no spikes and the head from the company champion for the relic blade captain.

>>53496978
Who are the founding chapter for the Red Hunters?

is anyone else bothered by the fact that we yet to see a single primaris with a chainsword? even the squad leaders don't have any

>>53496142

They also had a Blood Ravens transfer sheet at one point, which I sincerely hope they bring back with the Gabriel model. The thought of painting up a whole lot of tiny Blood Raven insignia is too much for me.

>>53496978

Silver Skulls, I believe, might have been Bobby B quietly integrating loyalist Iron Warriors.

>>53496970

New Marines got made in secret on Mars.

They're being doled out to 1st Founding Chapters that have suffered during the 13th Black Crusade and others (your dudes) that have endured a lot of hard fighting, or made into new Chapters wholesale and given either the heraldry of Chapters that have died out during the intense fighting, or made into new Chapters altogether.

As it goes, they are not a replacement for Space Marine Classic™, but new, more elite unit altogether. Although I suspect they'll slowly creep into being the dominant Space Marine in an edition or two.

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>>53492428
>The Predator will be in your backfield raining death upon transports and elite units alike. Or, load them up with the Predator autocannon and heavy bolters, or a mix of any of those choices, as you can fire every weapon at a different target!

I hope this holds true for all vehicles. Imagine it: A Leman Russ firing each of its myriad of weapons, then charges in so that the commander can get some action with his sword

>>53497005

I'm wondering if they might have Heavy Chainswords as standard. They are large enough.

I'm just waiting for them to come out with an Apothecary, though I'll probably convert my own in the interim. Ironically, I'll probably use Chainsword bits to do it.

>>53497005
Chainswords are too cheap for them.

>>53493563

Ex Brother Marine knows the meaning of sacrifice, DO YOU?

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I wont deny it.

Its been so long since I played/painted/built any 40k minis, this is probably going to be enough to drag me back in.

I will be a faglord and create my own Primaris-only Chapter, like everyone else.

And I'm gonna love it

I still don't get how the fuck Primaris Marines have "Ancients" already when all of them are fucking new and fresh out of the vac tube.

>>53497260

I got sucked in with AdMech, and never really liked the Space Marine models. But these sexy beasts are going to have me getting a box.

I play Inq28 and Kill Team, though, so a box is probably going to be more than enough to make a whole team out of, and I can always run just a couple with the rest filled out by Skitarii.

>>53497337

They've stated that Primaris implantation is just the addition of three extra geneseed organs, and that the process can be carried out on existing marines.

"Ancients" are Primaris that were made from existing, veteran marines and probably those who have already had a long career of combat.

>>53492406
>3 dark green marines
>2 white marines
>2 red marines
>2 blue marines
>2 black marines
>all are solid one-color jobs
Sasuga.

>>53492406
>salamanders and scars down under the poster successors
wew

>>53496831
Based on the FAQ, it seems like they're just going to keep releasing new CSM kits that are slightly larger. Thousand Sons are already slightly bigger than all other current marine kits, and the Plague Marines look to be about as big as primarines.

They could just release a Chaos Chosen kit that's in-line size-wise with primarines and just say it's warp magic.

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>Numarines are either drawn from devastated chapters whose traditions are shot to the wind or fresh out of the tank
>entire chapters of newly minted posthuman supersoldiers with no longstanding traditions or lore
>YFW they default to the standard human behaviours and basically end up being super-guardsmen
>YFW bored super-soldiers

"Battle-Brother Marius, FRONT AND CENTER!"
"YES, Captain!"
"It has come to my attention that you and Battle-Brother Tertius have been engaging in something called 'Ration Battles'. You mind explaining yourself, Marine?"
"Captain, we were bo-"
"I DID NOT ASK FOR AN EXCUSE, MARINE! I ASKED FOR AN EXPLANATION."
"Captain! A Ration Battle is an, uh, honorable contest between two Marines in which a battle ration is placed in the, uh, the Marine's helmet, and, uh..."
"Well? GO ON, MARINE."
"Uh, the helmet is worn and the first Marine to consume the ration and remove his helmet is the winner."
"..."
"Cap-"
"Stand at a tension until YOU ARE RELIEVED, MARINE."
"YES, Captain!"
"Good. Now, I have thought of an appropriate punishment for you. You will clean your helmet COMPLETELY. Strip and clear. Battle-Brother Tertius will do the same. Then the two of you will strip and clear the helmets of the entire company. Do I make myself clear?"
"Yes Captain."
"Say again, Marine?"
"YES, CAPTAIN!"

>>53497005
We didn't see assault chadmarines yet. Just wait for devastators/assaulters/terminators release

>>53497644
>Space Marines that act like modern day grunts
I never realized how much this muhed my dick, but MUH DICK.

>>53497728

Well, there were the drop-marines with the huge ass backpacks who drop from orbit. Those seem a whole lot like Assault Marines.

>>53497800

That'd actually be a wonderful callback to Rogue Trader, where Space Marines were much grittier soldiers. They were often recruited from convicts and other nasty dregs of society, and decorated their armor a lots of witty sayings like "Born to Die/Kill galaxy is a fuck" or "Your ass here" (painted on their armor's boot).

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>>53497877
>>53497800

"Hey, Apothecary! Check this out."
"You wounded, Marine?"
"No, but I almost fuckin' died. Lookit this. Autocannon round, right through the Rhino's hull. Would have punched through my neck seam, no question."
"Is there a point to this, Marine?"
"Well, yeah, I mean look. Gene-seed. No Gene-seed. Gene-seed. No Gene-seed. Gene-seed-"
"Thank you, Marine. Is anyone in your squad wounded?"
"Naw, doc, we good."

>>53497819
They're not. They don't have cc weapons, they are more like dropped CAS

>>53497877
So basically Starcraft marines?

>>53498081

Would be pretty great if we had more Generation Kill marines. I'd honestly say that if any marines would act that way, it'd probably be Scouts, since they have yet to finish their indoctrination, training, and implantation. One would think that Primaris got their full indoctrination before they shipped out; you can't have them going rogue on the new battlefields right out of the gate.

Alternatively, since a whole lot of marines from the Horus Heresy didn't have the same level of discipline and indoctrination as their Codex Astartes descendents, they might have acted in a similar matter in the lower ranks (especially those chapters taken from Terra's stock), which means old Rogue Trader marines might well have existed just after the Horus Heresy, replete with period-era weaponry.

>>53493224
You could always just ignore the primaris marines.
Or get a few, convert them to be sergeants and captains and shit.
Or use them for something else and keep your regular dudes normal, like use the primaris for a second allied group or something.
Or if you're REALLY crazy, truescale all your current dudes and now the big difference is the official ones have slightly fancier guns.

>weve balanced grav
>Heavy FOUR, S5, AP-3, 1dmg or D3 if they have a 3+ save

Why would I ever take anything over grav except maybe Lascannons?

>>53498342
Scouts are fully indoctrinated by the time they become scouts. A scout is basically a full blown marine waiting to be inaugurated to be a battle brother.
Hell, any neophyte past the initial stages will be thoroughly mindscrubbed and indoctrinated. You start with the mindbreaking and THEN move on to the expensive shit.

>all primaris black templars

D E U S

V U L T

I'M GUNNA LOOK SO DAMN GOOD

I don't get why everyone and their mom are selling their old space marine armies, acting as if they're worthless - when literally the entire rest of the 40k product line is still the same scale

>>53497002
no one knows

>>53498718
Overreacting is norm for 40k.

All my marines are calth mkivs and Prospero mkiiis so I won't do anything with the new stuff

[Spoiler] fuck you forgeworld for not updating HH to 8th

>>53498718
it's all memes and bait, don't bite to it

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>>53498798
there was some leaked of 8th edition datasheet for forgeworld stuff
this is nonsense !
forgeworld

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>>53498474
points cost? For all we know Heavy Bolters might still be the MVPs of 8th he said, drowning in delusion

>>53499314
Just play DoW if you want viable heavy bolters.

>>53497559
>Thousand Sons are already slightly bigger than all other current marine kits
They are?

>>53499314
>>53499354
Just play eternal crusade if you want viable heavy bolters

>>53499403
Dead game is dead, man. Just let it go.

>>53499373
They very slightly are, also helped that they aren't squatting

>>53493500
LOL what was your investment then? you made it sound like huge army but you've only got a little over a dozen guys made

>>53496142
>with forgeworld making a horrendous Gabriel model ATM

Given that his last in game model was basically dreadnought sized, bad models might be his thing!

>>53499414
Where are the proofs?

>>53493646
Most men are manlets, anon.

>>53499411
I play it every so often and get decent matches on the weekend
that said, Dawn of War III has like 2000 people whenever I look. Why does 40k get the short end of the videogame stick compared to fantasy? Necromunda might turn out okay but I'd really like to see that old gorkamorka game that never came out

>>53499521
Eternal Crusade will be lucky if it'll survive next year and DoW is doing pretty ok for an RTS in the current year.

>>53499457
In the models?

>>53498705
I was both happy and sad seeing that.
It's great that we get to use the new toys but it feels out of character for them to not consider Primaris Marines false mutants or generally inferior because they aren't made by the Emperor. Thought they'd be the first chapter to throw a fit about them.

>>53499775
New marines sell, friend. It's a sad truth. GW will happily bend or break the lore to maintain profits.

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>>53494767
My autism got the better of me and I decided to clean it up a bit more.

>>53492929
Anon, they were every fucking where around me. Carrying fucking Grav cannons.

>>53499862
Can we have helmet markings and stripes?
Pls

>>53498751
why not?

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>>53497800
>>53497877
>>53498081
There's some fanart that is exactly this, Space Marines and Guardsman doing dumb shit in camp. Someone dig it up.

>>53499862
I wonder how long till some glorious autist makes a painter

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>>53492428
>Let’s start with the Centurions since these guys have been very popular since their release

Are they high?

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>>53500354
Now give me a (you) you slut

>>53500424
Any more please?

>>53500424
(you) are a glorious fucker.
>>53492390
>They benefit from three additional organs and larger size, but it still remains to be seen if Cawl was able to successfully stabilise any of the known genetic deviations or impart any additional resistance to the effects of Chaos.

3 NEW ORGANS, WIZZ! I WONDER WHAT THEY ACTUALLY FUCKING DO. Seriously, what the fuck could they actually do?

More importantly

PRIMARIS MARINES CONFIRMED NOT IMMUNE TO CHAOS

GENETIC CORRUPTION IMMINENT

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>>53500460
>Seriously, what the fuck could they actually do?

>mega-CHADmarine cock
>powerful melta semen
>plasteel pecs of awesomeness
That's how they cuck the manlets

>>53500504
I thought all space marines were too manly and devoted to the emperor and fighting to have romantic relationships. How can they be cucked?

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>>53500719
Space Marines only partake of the purest love: that for the Emperor, and their Brothers

>>53497108
>new, more elite unit altogether.
Are they actually like a seperate unit with a different statline?

>>53500940
yes separate unit with 2 wounds, 2 attacks, slightly different wargear, and cost twice as many points.

They are very very elite, and while potent, are not necessarily point efficient.

>>53501021
Im not a Marines player, what other troop choices or elites can Marines get that are comparible?

What kind of stats and point cost are Sternguard or Deathwatch veteran squads?

am I getting this right? only those primaris units in the book that they already previewed? there's nothing else coming for them?

>>53501061
>Im not a Marines player, what other troop choices or elites can Marines get that are comparible?
They seem comparable to terminators, although terminators are a slightly different role.

With the new detachments, the fact that terminators are elites is less of an issue, because you can choose a detachment with more elite slots and fewer other slots.

We don't know the costs for sternguard or deathwatch yet, but would guess that they would be somewhere in between regular and primaris.

>>53501021
They cost twice as much with those shitty bolt rifles?

>>53501270
24 points to the 13 of a standard marine, yeah

>>53497046
Almost definately. Should have proof read before I copy/pasted

>>53492899
I believe this isn't done because of the "pull" of Chaos on that Geneseed. IE: susceptibility.

>>53492390
What if Sanguinus killed Horus, the Emperor crushed the remaining fallen primarchs, and also completed his weway project? What would it be like?

>>53501583
Happy fun times for everyone.

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So I'm guessing no Primarines for my Minotaurs since they use Iron Warriors geneseed and aren't exactly on speaking terms with the Ultramarines.

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>>53493224
>>53493192
>>53493109
>>53493771

I think they're cute.

>>53501789

Why are they always compared to the tiny snapfit marines and not the multipose tacticals?

>>53501789
why do the bases look bigger

>>53501684
You could make up some bullshit fluff to justify it. In fact, here, let me help you out:

Minotaurs got a contingent of Prime Marines as a good faith gesture from Ultramar to rebuild solidarity between all chapters.

There, straight out of my ass. You can do better, anon.

>>53501861

Because marines nowadays are on taller 32mm bases.
The marine on the right is just an older snap-fit marine that came on 25mm bases.

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>>53501859
>Why are they always compared to the tiny snapfit marines and not the multipose tacticals?

Is this one of them rhetorical questions?

>>53501880
wait should I rebase my marines to 32mm bases?

>>53501151
>They seem comparable to terminators
>>53497108
>Although I suspect they'll slowly creep into being the dominant Space Marine in an edition or two

So Marines are transitioning to be a even beefier army full of TEQs in the near future?

>>53501684

The High Lords are gonna slip them some Primarines.

>>53501922

You don't have to, but I think it looks better.

>>53501951
is it not important for base to base measurements for 8th?

>>53501964

No idea, but since your marines came with 25mm bases you are allowed to use those.

>>53501984
I got mine assorted from ebay

>>53501684
>Anon why do your minotaurs have numarines?
> Because I wanted the models.
It doesn't need to get more complicated than that

>>53501993

It wasn't until a year or two ago that marines came on 25mm bases, so there are plenty of marine armies out there on 25's.

Only reason mine are on 32's is because I bought a whole bunch of them and spent hours rebasing my entire army.

>>53502074
I might do that; is it worth it?

>>53502122

I think so, makes the marines look more imposing somehow.

It's like tactical manspreading.

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>>53495053
Oh I don't know. Some of the old Cadians are kinda cool. Especially if you dress them up a little with plastic bits.

sorry about the super sized phone pick but it's all I got atm

>>53497109
Our exterminators will (presumably) come with 8 Autocannon shots and nine heavy bolter shots.

I think we got this!

>>53502167
>tactical manspreading

>>53496326
>literal cuckold shilling for GW
you are a sad individual

>>53497644
wow this post is extremely gay dude have you considered suicide or a roleplay forum?

>>53502074
Isn't it a lot better to use 25mm bases because of close combat? It would allow more marines on older bases to be in range. Also potentially give your opponent harder time getting to assault range.
Just trying to figure out if I should redo bases on all my old dudes.

>>53500559
I love this everytime I see it

>>53502511
It rarely makes a big difference. If anything, from my experience having smaller bases hinders me, due to needing a bit more range for charges and everything.

>>53498342
>What happened to the supply Rhino?
>Follow my Bolt Rounds!
>Sergeant! I just lost my helmet!

>>53492406
>Fulminarors
the what now?

>>53502466
>BRAAAAAAAAAAP
great post

>>53493646

6'5" and I ain't dropping a dime on these new Marines. I've got a full Company by this point I've acquired over the years, and bah gawd they're gonna keep on keepin' on.

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>>53493588

Mfw all I ever wanted was bigger orks.

>>53496142
99.9% sure Dawn of War was supposed to be Bloodquest (And therefor Blood Ravens were Blood Angels) originally due to GW being dodgy shits and trying to license out small slices of their IP to multiple people until THQ put their foot down.

Source, my mom was the one trying to get the Bloodquest movie made and the THQ guy she met thought they had the Bloodquest license.

>>53503387
High heels don't count, faggot.

Be a REAL MAN and buy a PROPER ARMY to REPRESENT YOUR HEIGHT.

Or you will forever be a manlet on the inside.

>>53497109
The Tau Broadsides go from having twinlinked heavy missile pods and twinlinked smart missiles to twin heavy missile pods and twin smart missiles.

So Heavy 8 Str 7 AP -1 d3 damage, Heavy 8 Str 5 per Broadside.

Unless they go insane on the stock railgun Hammerheads will never see the table again.

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>>53493574
>I find it telling that neither the raven guard or space wolves are on that list. Probably there will be a super arch conservative marine faction.
But you're wrong you idiot.

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>>53497109

According to the Blood Angel leaks, the Predator Autocannon fires 2 blasts now(d3 each) and deals a flat 3 damage per unsaved wound. It's bigger and more brutal than "chad" guns, chadmarines are literally dicklets.

Tankers > chads every time

>>53492600
It's implied some of the ultramarine 2nd founding "successors" were actually loyalists units from traitor legions who claim Ultramarine parentage so as not to arouse suspicion.

>>53503551
Makes me wonder what standard Autocannon will do. Hoping they deal d3 wounds per hit.

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>>53499862
Someone had to do it

I've been interested in 40k for a long time. Even played a game or two in past editions. Now with the Primaris Marines I'm thinking about getting on board, probably splitting the starter box with someone who wants the Nurgle guys.

The question is: what chapter do I go with? Since I have no clue how to paint, I guess my preference would be for whichever chapter is the easiest to paint?

>>53492600
The official answer is "no, all traitor gene-seed was disposed of"

The in-universe truth is "yes, not all the gene-seed was destroyed"

>>53504061
>The official answer is "no, all traitor gene-seed was disposed of"
The official line in the Imperium is "Traitors? What traitors?"

>>53494230
>>53492558
just take their template and apply it as a multiply layer over your color layer. GIMP, firealpaca, or anything else should be able to do this if you can't afford or don't want to pirate photoshop.

>>53494527
Looks more like Khorne red.

>>53493588
I kekked, have a (you).

>>53501926
Wait is that actually true?

>>53493876
>>53494203
It's on most boards right now, desu

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>>53492406
Iron Hands look so much better with silver trim the majority of artwork uses. I wish they'd stick with that.

>tfw all bionic bits are now out of scale and there's no how-to's for making good DiY bionics

>>53497391
I'm in the middle of making a Rogue Trader (using Inquisition rules) army based on my groups old RT campaign. I had been planning to ally space marines in to represent the contingent of Storm Wardens we got saddled with for a bit.

With Calixis going tits up I'm gonna need to rethink my fluff. But I have a feeling Primaris Storm Warden survivors will be a part of it.

>>53504083
that too.

I already got too deep with my space marine army and I'm going to keep them as being space marine traditionalists that reject the Primaris marines.

But I want Primaris, so I'm just making a new chapter for them.

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>>53504380

Just poke around with plastic rod and guitar wire.

Don't have any pictures for proof but I managed to make some really nice looking bionics out of mostly guitar wire and random bits back in the early 2000's.

Here's a pretty nice example from Google.

>>53494370
>Clevah gitz, but they shouldz be purple

>>53499641

So fucking mad I drank the kool-aid and pre ordered that game like 6 or 7 months before it was out.

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>tfw tall as fuck and going to use lots of Primaris marines to make manlets triggered

>>53503438

Hah, keep on projecting then with your new models.

>>53504031
Doing the lord's work anon.

>>53504031
What would /mlp/ look like?

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>>53505192

>>53500460
>3 additional organs
Considering how fuckhuge they are, at least 1 organ is a tertiary heart in the abdomen to maintain consistent bloodflow. The other 2 probably help supplement traditional Space Marine weaknesses; likely a float bladder filled with naturally-occuring hydrogen to help lessen the impact of Primaris Marines on staircases and help them swim if they ever fall in water, and a penis to help them breed more genetically-compatible humans to decrease the chance of gene-seed rejection.

>>53502434
Still a mad manlet marine player eh?

>>53505529
>Primaris marines fear no stairs
Truly they are unstoppable now.

>>53505529
what is the canon height of the dlc marines anyway?

>Crimson Fists getting Tall Boyz

Shit will the Rynnstar system finally be reclaimed? Will Pedro "Orkfister" Kantor become a Tall Boy?

God I'm excited.

>>53505858
Considering the average Marine is 10 ft tall? The Primaris are like 14 ft tall.

>>53506021
They're fucking 7-8 feet, not 10.

>>53506021
the average marine is not 10 feet tall and there is not a 4 foot different between manlets and chads. are you a retard?

>>53505858

6' 1"

>>53506021
Nigga, 10feet is primarchlet territory. Space Marines are 8 feet.

>>53505251
that, horribly enough, looks pretty good really. Then again I'm a sucker for primarily white color schemes.

>Chadmarines are bigger in the lore
>Models are sized to be "truescale" marines
>Chadmarines are now truescale standard marines but not actually truescale chadmarines
Actual truescale chads when, (((GW)))?

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>>53506247
After you've bought all the truscale Marines :^)

>>53497109
I've been waiting for this moment for tau vehicles.

>>53506306
But when that happens, don't forget to buy some of Ferrus Manus Reborn's Primaris-Ultima Marines!

Has anyone seen any Black Templar Primaris Marines? Or even a photoshop?

>>53506713
No minis yet, but here's official artwork of one
>>53492406

>>53499314
I'm assuming heavy bolters are going to be much cheaper than grav, like to the point where two units of devastators with heavy bolters would cost as much as one with grav.

>>53493181
you can still use the same pads you dickhead

>>53506247
they're here already.
regular marines were already truescale.

its the current guardsmen minis that are wrongly scaled

>>53507087
>regular marines were already truescale.
They are not, they ugly midgets with legs thinner than heads.

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>>53492530
Just a quick concept.

>>53504041
Gray, blue, green, and purple tend to be easier to paint, imo. Easier to shade and highlight, somehow.

But be brave! Find a chapter whose story you like, never mind the color. Read up on the first founding legions and their successors.

>>53503585
Dmg. 2 from what I've seen.

>>53500460
What the fuck do you think the starter is all about? Plagues are gonna give NuMarines some cool STDs.

>>53507836
heavy 2d3 dmg 3

>>53494236
Fell to Chaos. Malal here we come!

>>53508409
That's the predator autocannon. Regular one is Heavy 2, Dmg. 2.

>>53507202
Really like it. What do you think of being an imperial fist successor chapter?

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>>53509700
>>53507202
forgot to post picture

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r8

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>>53510201