So, can we have a factual discussion about the new Dread? What

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>>53490353

>>53490353
If the legs were a bit beefier then it'd be 10/10. Right now it's too top heavy for me.

Those puny legs are too frail to sustain the body. It's top heavy, and it can't look at its feet. 6/10

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Admech Priest: How do we hide the xenotech origin from the Inquisition?
Cawl: Just put a skull or two on it.
Admech Priest: Brilliant!

>>53490353
Legs are too skinny and that rocket pod is too puny, other than that it looks pretty good.

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>>53490353
>>53490363
VENERABLE BROTHER REDEMPTOR, WHY HAVE YOU SKIPPED LEG DAY?

>>53490392
Except that the cyclic ion blaster is a three-barreled rotary cannon and the Redemptor plasma cannon is not.

>>53490399
It's not like you can see his legs or pretty much anything at all.

>>53490392
>This is what taufags believe

>>53490353
>When your dick is THICCer than your legs.

>>53490435
>>53490392

It's canon.

>>53490353
Looks like it's wearing a diaper

Something about the proportions reminds me of Ork dreadz

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>>53490372
i also don´t like the legs but i am pretty happy that they kept the overal style of the old dreads with the boxed upper torso

>>53490353
I hate its pot belly. FW did the giant dreadnought thing way better >>53490399

>>53490472
So it's a Mazinger reference?

>>53490353
Forge World made three different Dreadnought variations that look great, GW tries to make something new and it looks like an abortion.

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>>53490353
Its great, i hate FW dreads because of stupid heads they resemble overgrown marines.

>>53490353
I dont hate it like some its just that the Leviathan is a fucking masterpiece making it hard not to judge it poorly.

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>>53490353
Kind of reminds of a Protectron from Fallout

>>53490622
I want more 1950's sci-fi robot releases for Admech. Cawl please.

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>>53490353
It's 4/10. Would be 7/10 if legs were better.
Still nothing close to the absolute beauty of Leviathan

>>53490353
Do we have a stat line for them yet?

>>53490353
I like the design of it a lot; the legs could be a little beefier, bt other than that, it's a very nice design.

The only issue I have with it is the way it's come about.

>>53490353
Why do you ask for a "factual" discussion with your first sentence, and solicit people's personal preferences with the second?

>>53490931
hey man not everyone is native speaker of englisch

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>>53490353
I like it. Never cared for the separate head. I prefer the sarcophagus look.

They also remind me of the walkers from Deadzone. I like them so it's cool.

>>53490353
I dig it. Would be nice to kitbash stuff with it especially with the Hellbrute

>>53490453
Oh boy. Why do people buy this shit?

>>53491218
Because thats just a shitposter and you took the bait. Congratz.

>>53490353
I like that you can clearly see it has the same old sarcophagus, just installed in a new chassis.

>>53490353
>>53490363
I hate it, I think it looks like someone looked at Ed-209 and said, "Hey, let's merge it with a 40k dreadnought and make it even more top heavy!" It looks like a medieval army could beat it because a lucky hit with a catapult will topple it.
And I know it's the skinny, long legs too, the regular dreadnought's stubby legs worked for it because it gave it a far lower center of gravity.

>>53490392
Give the CAD designers some slack guis.... drawing new stuff is hard... might as well just tweek someone else's work

>>53490353
It looks easier to knock over than the classic boxnaught, it stole guns from the Tau, and it skipped both ab and leg day.

But it does skip the dumb exposed head thing GW has been pushing since the Venerable and is pretty beefy in the torso.

6/10

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>>53491494
>And I know it's the skinny, long legs too, the regular dreadnought's stubby legs worked for it because it gave it a far lower center of gravity.

The old Dreadnaught could literally not even walk, Mr. Mechanicu40k_Armchair-Physicist.

>>53490353
it looks like it is pregnant

>>53490353
Not a fan.
It looks like someone took the orihginal Dread design (which is a pretty great design) apart and shoved some extra bits in to fill out the space.

To me, the 40k aesthetic feels watered down as a result, which is a problem I have with a lot of the Primaris stuff.

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>>53491630
>It looks like someone took the original Dread design

It looks nothing like the original Dread.

>>53491673
Do you have a point beyond semantics?

>>53490353

Since boxnaught = best naught, I like. Good thing they are going away from the smooth round aesthetics of the non-box naughts.

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>>53490353

They are going absolutely insane with the scale of these things. At this rate the Primaris Landraider is going to be the size of 4 bricks.

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>>53491721
Yes.

Dreadnaughts have been changing all the damn time just as the mysterious "40k aesthetic" someone was blabbering about here earlier.

There is nothing wrong with the new dread's design and it fits the setting much more than a useless brick that was the previous one.
The models are getting more detailed every few years, the only thing different is you and your noob ass that wasn't around when it happened last time.
Fact is, this has been the standard Dread for a while now (pic related), it just didn't start with the marines.

>>53491743
>Good thing they are going away from the smooth round aesthetics of the non-box naughts.
>it's a rounder version of the castaferrum

>>53490353
The legs look flimsy compared to the torso, teh shoulders look vulnerable, the hand looks wicked and the gattling cannon is sexy and I like the storm bolter nipples but the bulked-up armor should include the viewport

>>53491809
This, basically.
Design paradigms constantly change, usually every 3-4 or so.

>>53490353
I think it's great. Sure, there's a few minor nitpicks, but overall I think it's a better looking dreadnought than everything except the Leviathan dread. That thing is in a class all its own.

>>53491873
Except the boxdread has been the default for well over a decade.

>>53491917
And dread design paradigms changed with >>53491809, which IS a boxdread, but has a different pose and your eyes excuse the shape because "mutations".

>>53491955
Not counting FW stuff, what dreads came out since the Hellbrute?

>>53491955
Fuck off Chaosfag, this is about Imperium dreads.

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>>53491982
Space Wolf Venerable Dreadnought.

>>53492002
Doesn't look very much like the Hellbrute to me.
Looks like a boxdread.

>>53492021
So does the primaris dread, with some adjustments.
The only real difference is they widened the body into a more angular visual.
Really, the new model lines are a way for GW to bring a tighter sci-fi look to marines, a more primordial look to chaos. I bet Tau will have a stronger gundam look and Elves more sleek/bedecked.

>>53491809
it must be weird having a Helbrute among the Loyalists

>>53491602
The Space Marine video game did a decent job convincing me it could.

>>53492057
>Really, the new model lines are a way for GW to bring a tighter sci-fi look to marines, a more primordial look to chaos.
That's my problem. I don't much care for a tighter scifi look for Marines; there's plenty of scifi out there; I don't need 40k to go that route as well.

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>>53492064
The point is said Hellbrute is clearly not the DoW1-era Dread and if you compare it with the Primaris one, you get an identical machine.
Chaos is responsible for the additional appendages, not the metal which is a Primaris Dread-like base.

Basically a mid-update paradox where the loyalists were still using the old design while the Chaos that got the new mini first was already using corrupted version of the new loyalist design.

>>53490392
>Ion cannons
>Using the same tech as plasma weapons

Taufags really are desperate for relevance.

>>53492101
So Chaos shrunk the dread down and changed his weapon to an earlier design?

>>53490392

It would be interesting if all that Tau tech the admech showed up to steal during the Damocles campaign actually amounted to something.

>>53492122
>implying the sculptors care about such nerd trivia

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>>53492101
>if you compare it with the Primaris one, you get an identical machine

>>53492101
>Chaos is responsible for the additional appendages, not the metal which is a Primaris Dread-like base.
Are you fucking retarded? Look at that metal. It's fucking lousy with Chaos. It doesn't look anything like a Primaris dread.

>>53492101
>if you compare it with the Primaris one, you get an identical machine
are you fucking blind, mate

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>>53490392
Jesus, anon, if I wanted to see someone seeing conspiracies on superficial similarities, I would go to /x/.

>>53492164
>>53492184
>>53492188
>>53492196
>>53492205
He has to be trolling. I refuse to believe anyone can legitimately be so stupid.

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>>53492239
>I refuse to believe anyone can legitimately be so stupid

I like everything about it except the beer belly, what were they thinking with that?

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>>53492277
possible factor

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>>53492294

>>53492057
Anon, Tau were the Tighter Sci-fi Look faction.

Space Marines are the Brutal Monastic Gun Knights faction. They aren't sleek and futuristic, they're chunky and covered in blessings.

>>53490522
>deredeo
>looks great
It looks like someone drop an anvil on a contemptor.

>>53491846

but it's still boxy

>>53490931
>>53491102

Sry, must have misused that word, will do better next time!

>>53490353
looks like wearing diaper

>>53490500
Looks ok for me, more important thing
CHAOS DRED in the pic!
But it looks really small....ohh boy >ib4 those stupid burgers and their hight complex.

>>53490353

Arms and legs are a bit too thin

Otherwise it looks good.

>>53491873
more like every edition, shit needs to be sold

>>53493021
>more important thing CHAOS DRED in the pic!
It's just an old helbrute senpai

>>53490353
it's borderline because it eschews in part the clunky ioM aesthetics. it's slick but IoM was to a a large degree about not giving a fuck.

>>53493089
My hopes and dreams.
Well now I look to decent rules for it...DESU I used dreads back in 3,5th. Defilers is were fun starts.
pls be gud pls be gudpls be gudpls be gudpls be gudpls be gudpls be gudpls be gudpls be gudpls be gudpls be gudpls be gudpls be gud

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>>53492057
>I bet Tau will have a stronger gundam look
Can't wait for the RX-78-2 battlesuit

>>53490353
>inb4 Bear gut
Seriously though, this thing lacks the ability to turn at the pelvis/waist. considering this has been a feature of all dreads past, I feel that that is a bit of an oversight.

>>53493654
Thats a good point, but with proper legs and hips you can do 180 without problem. I dont see (save for urban combat) need to turn around all the time.

>>53490353
>>53490363
>>53490500
Those feet should not be able to keep all that bulk from toppling over, also smaller feet means that it puts more pressure on each step causing undue stress to the legs and whatever the dreadnought stands on. I could easily see this thing getting a foot stuck in concrete, snapping its knee and falling face-first.

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>>53493651
1/144 HG gunplas are around the height of a Riptide and are over 1/6th the cost

>>53490353
I have no idea what to think of this, but it looks really weird to me

>>53492101
those aren't dreads though, they were sold as killer robots in the citadel catalogue

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>>53494168
Its dreadnoughts from Space Crusade.

>>53494553
oh yeah, my bad

though, that was back when all walkers were referred to as dreadnoughts (killa kans, wraithlords), and before they established dreads as being driven by dead marines. I've never seen those things up close, so I'm not convinced they're Space Marine dreads as opposed to killer robots they just happened to call dreadnoughts.

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>>53494657
BTW: In germany, they´re called "Cybots", which is of course a far superior term to name them.

>>53491602
https://youtu.be/A-E1RcRvny8?t=28
https://youtu.be/dmK9HrlskXU?t=92
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lML6mnapxd8
https://youtu.be/cZc6cr6G2E4?t=297

looks fine to me

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So wait, are they putting older dreads in new bodies or are these just the new top of the line caskets for all recently fallen marinelets as part of their redundancy package?

I guess there will have been an influx of wounded marines on hometurf..

>>53494930
Being held up by animator magic does not change the fact the thing could never walk.
Feel free to notice how Relic animators made them move.

They rest them on one foot while the other side of the machine swings up and forward.
This works purely because it's animated as such since the other leg could never support that motion. Basically, it's floating in the air for most of the walking animation.

>>53490353
While it's definitely different to the old one, i overall like the more rounded topside, while not becoming eldarish. It still manages to be plates.exe while keeped a more rounded shape, kudos to the guy who made that.

Also the hand and autocannon look extremely crisp. I don't play 40k, only follow it because of the models, so i'm happy with it all.

>>53490363
It looks like a robotic sumo wrestler if a sumo wrestler could be toppled forward with a light tap to the back of the head.

>>53495615
This new lot are looking might front heavy.

>>53495007
Well the casket seems to be the same and the casket is what actually contains the pilot. The rest is just a robot that can be swapped out.

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Not sure if this helps but it looks to me that the asscan variant on display (ops pic) has it's legs positioned in a running stance which makes them look a tad smaller due to perspective

With the legs brought more forward like the plasma variant on the right, they look more reasonable

Overall I think it's a good design except the missile pod on the back looks out of place

>>53490353
>What do you dislike about it?

NOT ENOUGH SMOKE LAUNCHERS!

>>53496144

>they look more 'reasonable' if you position the legs to make them taller

????????????????????????????????????

looking forward for converting the shit out of it,
mortis, venerable, chaplain, etc.. maybe other vehicle types ?

I want one whole dreadnought to inject in my bloodstream.

But finally there is a realistic cosplay option for me, beerbelly, obsessed with war and of course - dead inside

>>53495906
So new bodywork and parts i guess.

>>53496285
>But finally there is a realistic cosplay option for me, beerbelly, obsessed with war and of course - dead inside

You forgot smells like shit. Better wait for the Nurgle version.

>>53496144
what about these different "rocket pots" in the stomach region, seems like we will not just have weapon option with the arms, no even with the accessories

>>53496144
That actually looks decent somehow, a side angle suits it better

Chaos version when?

Lol, from that side angle you can totally see the waist pivot point that people were complain that it lacks. That "beer gut" looks like an extension of the coffin and or a waist plate to protect is weak mid point of articulation. I for one love it. It has a very Robocop 2 vibe to it, Caine I think the robot's name was. Also, the hands and legs looks like a very organic flow from the previous designs of those mechanics robots, Kastelans.

>>53490353
Decent but inferior to the mighty boxnaught

>>53496144
I'm not a fan of the sculpt personally, but this picture makes me think that spinning those legs around and making them reverse joint might make it better.

Numarines and their bolt rifles looked cool, but holy fuck that Dread looks dumb.

>>53490353
Too tall.

Not boxy enough.

Has something approaching a hand rather than a tri-pincer claw.

Looks too much like a conventional robot.

Does have the sarcophagus displayed clearly though, which is a plus.

>>53491798
Bigger = more plastic = more money.

>>53495068
Dont they have anti-grav tech in their feet or something?

>>53492002
fucking dreadlets, when will they learn

>>53490353
>Factual discussion
>What do you like or dislike?
You trolling m8?

I don't like the legs.
The increased ground clearance makes it look severely top heavy as opposed to the prior squat designs.

It looks too bow legged and top heavy. Makes it look very weak despite how powerful the top is.

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Well if nothing else, at least they provide some decent parts for conversion potential.

Also is everything in the Space Marine arsenal getting PRIMED?

>>53497985
Would be kegdred bold/stupid enough to wake up a Leviathan?

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>>53490353
Asks for a factual discussion.

Then asks for opinions.

FUCKING RETARDS.

>>53492101
you know the primaris dread is like 4 times the size of the shitbrute ?

>>53490453
nice pun

>>53496144
thank you so much for this picture this was the angle I was missing to make an opinion on it.

I think it has a solid and brutalist design that the regular dreadnought championed. However I am kinda worried about the religious atheistic of the imperium being lost in this design.

As a dark angel player I will definitely have to add robes and censures to make it properly imperial.

>>53490392
>implying Belisarius "Just Fuck My Cadia Up" Cawl would or could steal and apply T'au technology to his 10,000 year old project

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Reminds me of the Battletech Dragon

>>53496325
why would they put the pilot so close to the outside of the dreadnought

>>53490353
Give the bitch a cape and ill buy 10

>>53499950
Why do tanks have the crew at the front and not the back?

>>53496325
I always feel so bad for the poor marine in there :(

>>53490353
I dislike its 'belly' like front and comparatively small legs

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Something quickly thrown together, should be a somewhat easy conversion.

>>53499987
They don't use Jewish physics.

>>53490399
Kek

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>>53500250
I actually might get some extra legs and do this.

>>53500250
>>53500600
Looks retarded.

>>53499987
Where do you think people sit in a tank?

>>53490453
this words wiz werthe wreading

>>53499987
tank crew sits in the middle actually. the driver is the only one in the front and he has the most extreme armor slope covering him.

>>53491809
>There is nothing wrong with the new dread's design
Aside from not being very good looking? Prior aesthetic be damned. The new one is just not something I want to buy.

>>53502859
Amd the old one was definetly something nobody bought.
I think the last time my FLGS sold one was like 2015

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Looks like a bad lego model

Pic related is how you do a chad dreadnought right

>>53493857
Funny enough I know a guy at my FLGS who subs a gundam for a riptide.

>>53496333
try again

>>53503069

The best one is obviously CHAOS chadnought, aka the HELLFORGED LEVIATHAN DREADNOUGHT

[unzips Butcher Cannon]

>>53499778
>religious atheistic
...you mean aesthetic, right?

>>53503476
yeah I am rather shit at spelling.

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>>53490353
Something about it really reminds me of the original dreadnoughts back from the rogue trader days.

must be the proportions.

>>53500087
Canonically it's a pretty shitty existence, which is why they're allowed to sleep most of the time

>>53503016
That's "got four in the attic already" syndrome, made worse by the wide variety of extra special dreads the last three or four years have seen appear in droves.

>>53501354
This.

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>>53490565
I love how the world eater dread has icecream color of green and blue that make it look like a globe.

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>>53490353
I like. Will buy to be my new Tankred

>>53490353
weak curved shoulders

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>>53500087
In the German version of DoW1 their VA had such a sad inflection, especially the line "Es ist besser für den Imperator zu sterben als für sich selbst zu leben." was kinda heartwrenching.

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So, can we have a factual discussion about the new Chimera? What do you like/dislike about it?

Also, do you think it'll be available to non-Guard armies, like the Genestealer Cults or Inquisition?

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>>53500250
>>53500600
Too silly.

>>53501354
Here's the best edit I've seen so far

>>53490353
Do we know anything about it's stats? Will it be tearing the arms off my Venerable Contemptors?

>>53500600
>>53500250

Looks gay as fuck Tau shit. You a Taufag fucker or something?

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>>53505851
>>53490353

The rest of the leaks are here
>http://imgur.com/a/X7xLA

>>53490353
Looks less retarded than current dreads, so it is something I suppose. Kinda reminds me of Warmachine Warjacks with slightly better proportions.

>>53505794
>do you think it'll be available to non-Guard armies, like the Genestealer Cults
Nigga. Genestealer Cults introduced the damn thing.

>>53500250
I like it, though I'd probably do something else for the sensors.

The lines of the front are much better this way.

>>53506112
A bit ot but why does the chainsword have same stats as a combat knife?

Whats the point of the chain then?

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I FIGURED IT OUT
ITS ALL SO SIMPLE

IT LOOKS WEIRD BECAUSE ITS A GIANT NOSE WITH ARMS AND LEGS

>>53500250

The contemptor legs are smaller than that I think.

>>53502512
Just like in a dread you're behind a thick adamantium plate.

>>53507133
it's been that way for like 15 years now, man

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>>53507903
B-but it doesnt make sense... the knife is just a dinky side-arm in the vidya.

I cant believe this intimidating cross between a sword and a chainsaw was a glorified knife this whole time.

So thats why everyone sticks those gay looking glowing pleb blades on their heroes...

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It looks fragile and awkward. It reminds me of the rejected prototypes from Robocop 2

It reminds me of my Ex....

>>53490353
Knees.

>>53507903
18/19 years. Chainswords were basic CCWs from 3rd to 7th, but are getting special rules again for 8th.

>>53508166
Stay mad, buttboi.

>>53506112
And there it is... a 7" charge out of the drop pod.

Thanks Girlyman!

>>53505794
There's a new chimera?? Can't find anything about that.

>>53505797

Even more bulk on the tiny legs, mmh, no. Not working.

>>53490353
I like right arm cannon.
I hate everything else.

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>>53491162
Speaking of which, do you think Enforcers could pass for Primaris Marines? They're already taller than normal marines.

>>53509377
Its civilian truck of genestealer cults.

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Dreadnoughts are my favorite models in SM range. Here's how I see Primaris Redemptor.
Positive:
>Follows the functional design of Primaris marine line
>sarcophagus with the pilot is armored
>can realistically walk on those legs
>good auxiliary weapon placements
>great initial weapon choices (personal preference)
>fist with under-slung assault cannon
Negative:
>doesn't look as bulky and armored as Castaferrum pattern
>joints are still exposed and vulnerable, although less
>legs are a bit too long and thin
>don't like the rounded top
Overall, I really like it and I think it is a worthy successor to the Castaferrum (box) pattern. It gets additional points of being able to take 2 assault cannon. I think it could look really good with some extra bits and FW chapter-specific frontal plates.

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>>53490353
I think the new design is cool.
But i dislike it as the new dreadnought.
It lost it charm, it looks like generic mech now and feels too advanced regarding the prior, other designs. And the knight and other special bots are now downgraded to look like the mass produced cybots.

>>53490353
Them legs.
I'm gonna be calling it The Polio-Dread from now on.

>>53492002
Lol that's such a goofy Wolf Wolf model.

>>53508291
Hey, it's Grandpa Dreadnought!

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Someone put a pair of flashing police lights on top of it.

>>53497616
No thats retarded.

>>53503560
I noticed that too but can't put my finger on it.

It's also like an old "rhino" on legs to me.

>>53500250
>>53500600
Get rid of the silly sensor-baubles and put the classic Dreadnought faceplate where the extended 'head' section is and this could look good.

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>>53510553

>>53509416
I like your idea. Dunno how they look on bigger base though.

>>53509137
Thank you for correcting my obviously and intentionally rough estimate

This is the first major step in the art style and aesthetic of 40k dying, high tech streamline should not be a consideration for imperial models. Making totally new vehicles was ok because the players can simply ignore them but I seriously hope that all dreadnoughts aren't destined for this. Tldr im a sperg

>>53507508
SHUT
IT
DOWN

I like the "box with legs" design more to be honest.

>>53490353
Couldnt they just keep the central box the same and just change the arms and legs? Im not digging the big nose shape.

>>53512354
strong agree

primarines are streamlined too

it might be acceptable if they keep it strictly to shit relating to the chadmarines, so their aesthetic is slightly more streamlined to define it

but yeah they're going to squat marinelets and this will be the New Focus-Tested Terran Imperium™ of the Grim Dark™ Heroic Science-Fiction Setting Of Warhammer 40k™

>>53490353
Legs too small, crotch too huge. Looks like its wearing depends... Whick I guess makes sebse for thw age of a dreadnought but is still pretty lame looking.

>>53505231
DELET THIS

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>>53490353
When will the Imperium learn that vehicles with legs are literally inferior to vehicles with treads in almost every way?

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>>53512982
They make vehicles without tracks or legs.

>>53490353
Doesn't matter. Simple math hammer confirms vehicles are going to be dog shit in this edition where even a lasgun can wound this Dreadnought and any multi damage weapon can kill it in one volley.

Infantry hammer is back boys.

>>53512709
>primarines are streamlined too

Their armour is nearly identical to the current Mark VIII Errant suits but with proper human proportions.

>>53513097
the proportions are literally exactly whats important, also the new streamlined masks

marinelets have huge shoulders and massive limbs and kinda look like if someone tried building power armour in WWII, as with all their
land vehicles being based off early 20th century designs

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>>53513155
>also the new streamlined masks

Their helmets are basically copies of the existing Mark IV helmets which have proven very popular over the years.

>all their land vehicles being based off early 20th century designs

The Rhino and Predator are both based upon the British FV432 AFV, which entered service in the 1960s, and the basic aesthetics of those kinds of vehicles haven't changed much to this day. It's the rest of the Imperial arsenal that tends to be heavily inspired by WWI/WWII designs, which is why the Space Marines have always had very clean lines compared to everything else.

As for the proportions, they're not all that different to Jes Goodwin's 'template' Space Marine drawing on display at Warhammer World. It's the miniatures that are out of step with the art, not the other way around, thanks to the models being produced in heroic scale.

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>>53496325
Damn he just looks so tired. That's fucking perfect.

>>53490660
man, can you imagine a campy, 1950's styled Warhammer 40k in general?

Which Primarch would be a blatant Greaser punk?

>>53513999
And suddenly, for one moment in time, Jaghatai Khan was interesting.

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>>53514059
>Asian Rockabilly

By the Emperor.

>>53514059
>>53514163
Fuck, was just gonna post this.

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>>53490353
Couldn't they have just made this? Goddamn it!

How can they always fuck up so badly

>>53506112
This is awesome, but no leaks for regular marine stuff or special rules?

>>53509388
Nah, it's the same bulk but redistributed: the gut is reduced and the sarcophagus replaced with a helmet, and the freed-up mass is used to extend the shoulders...still, the feet can definitely be bulkier.

>>53499950
Because the sarcophagus that the pilot is in is actually the toughest and most resilient part of the whole machine. The rest of the Dreadnaught chassis can be destroyed, and the sarcophagus will still survive all but the most brutal punishment.

>>53490353
I love it. Much less boxy.

>>53496144
I guess it's an issue of pose. That plasma one looks a lot better since it's harder to imagine a roman legionnaire knocking it over with a ballista or some shit. Imo the Boxnaughts still look better, but I'll probably pick a few of these up.

>>53503476
he means

= a e s t h e t i c =

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>>53511669
40K hours in paint.net

>>53507733
those are leviathan legs, I think. Contemptors don't have feet like that. That said, i have no idea if that's in scale for leviathan legs.

>>53490353
Fuck yes I love the Dragon chassis! House Kurita for life!

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>>53490353
You call THAT a rocket launcher?

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I got me 4 of these bad boys as Helbrutes. I wonder if the new one can be converted to something like it.

I like it because it looks like a different version of the original boxnaught, like a different model of the same machine from the same fundamental tech base.

Unlike the unfitting forgeworld ones.

What's with the little slit on boxnought coffins? That's... that's not how it sees r-right?

>>53520203

Of course that's how it sees.

>>53520203
It is. They also have sensors and what not to enhance it.
The Imperium's tech is not that great, Anon.

>>53520243
It's even recessed behind a gorget now which limits its view further. How does it do anything if it has to squint through that little window? Melee is entirely out of the question.

>>53520319

The new one, I don't know. The old one had a bunch of cameras.

>>53490353
Who thought it was a good idea to balance a bowling ball on a couple of twigs?

Can a chapter master be a dreadnaught?

HE HAS NO STYLE,
HE HAS NO GRACE

>>53490353
Looks like a heavily pregnant woman with knobbly knees and a minigun.

Do not want

>>53512982
Never.

Because in the far future nobody care about your autism.

>>53512119
Don't Primaris Marines still use the 28mm bases?

>>53524405

I'd figure they'd come with the 32mm bases like they started issuing with devastators and suchlike.

>>53490353
Skipped leg day.

Otherwise pretty neato. Still a fan of the original, though. Would field both just for a bit of flavor~

>>53519232
love the legs though I would personally keep the gold trim

I believe that the Redemptor is a normal Dread with upgraded/added extremities and bits since I doubt that the Primaris Marines has seen enough conflict to start having dreads, not to mention that RowBoat came with some of his chapter so they upgraded the existing dreadnoughts they got with them.

>>53520797
Iron Hands.

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>>53506112
Ahahahahahaha

Dual Heavy Flamers! My Sisters have a new Pimp Daddy!

>>53519958
Fucking lad, gonna get me some IG sentinel legs to do something similar to this conversion.

These new marines must suck if they're already interring them.

>>53529088
the fluff went like 10 years forward in the mew rulebook.
that why in the new fluff primaris are already long accepted in every single astartes chapter

>>53519958
Is that a Rifleman?

>>53505511
It is better for the Emperor (something) die (something) than live?

>>53490353
>factual
>what's your opinion
>Pick one

>>53529978
It is better to die (zu sterben) for the Emperor than live (zu leben) for yourself (fur sich selbst).

>>53530044
Thanks.

Oddly enough I understood sterben because of Mercy's voice line from Overwatch: Helden sterben nicht. The rest of course because there are some many cognates between German and English.

>>53530127
so many*

>>53530127
Yep. English is the bastard amalgamation of several European languages, formed through centuries as the language of slaves, traders, and eventually royalty that spread it even further via colonialism and imperialism.

>>53490363
It looks like a fat person

>>53519721
...man Angry Marines huh that takes me back...

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>>53500250
>>53500600
Ignore everything pic related, but the optics could work well, I think.

>>53509446
Breaks a simple design rule. The more humanoid a robot is, the more humanoid the elements that make it up can be. This starts with the head- if it has a recognisably anthropomorphic head (or helmet) then you can get away with anthropomorphic hands. This is what makes the contemptor good, it looks like a more mechanical tartaros suit. The boxnaughts have crazy roboclaws and drills because they are faceless boxes.
This new dread has the same problems as the old metal venerable dread, with 5 fingered claws looking out of place on a legged box. At least the ven had a head

>>53531683
Wraithlords are fine with humanoid shape and hands.

>>53531753
Wraithlords have humanoid everything with an egghead. They keep the design rule while looking alien.

>>53490353
It looks much worse than the old one.

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>>53531026
Definitely potential for some strange and cool conversions.

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>>53490565
No U

Forge World's dread at least looks menacing.

Also, when Games Workshop went with their own venerable dread, 4th edition looked like a walking furniture, and 5th edition looked like goddamn Alan Alda in a suit of armor, thanks to that high collar.

Last one is decent enough, but I still prefer the aesthetics of Forge World's Mk IV.

>>53531959
>-says 1 anon

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Reminds me of this. Not necessarily bad, though it's not my favourite by any means.

Besides that, there's two things about it I don't like. The arms and the body look weird together. Curvature and boxyness doesn't always mesh well.

And then there's this:
>>53490472

>>53507508
...and now I can see nothing else when I look at the chadnaughts, thanks for that.

>>53532435
I expect nothing less as I'm the only non-autistic person to frequent this board.

>>53503016
Standard dreadnoughts have been sub par for a very long time.

How long before primaris terminators?

>>53533158
spoken like a true autist

>>53490453

I dub thee "Carfefe", he who drives up to the edge of the pun and confefe

>>53529444

That's missing my point. If these are supposed to be the bigger and badder marines, how is 10 years enough that you already need Dreadnoughts? Don't the average not-dead marines usually fight for centuries without incurring wounds that they can't heal?

>>53531996
Looks like it's patting a dog or something

>>53503016
I presume everybody already had enough dreadnaughts, compounded by the fact that they've been pretty shit in the rules, and that they don't even come with multimeltas.

Frankly, as fucking ancient as the sculpts are, ye olde vanilla dreadboxen is still my favorite SM model. The aesthetic is spot-on

>>53537951
Isn't shit hitting the fan pretty hard in the lore?

>>53490353
Pros: Appropriate size, looks terrifying, awesome weapons, articulated legs ()FINALLY

Cons: The fuck is all this curvy bullshit? Keep that shit in the HH, real imperial tech must be boxy and unaerodynamic. Also the exposed coffin top weakens the silhouette and just looks a bit odd and the bottom of the sarcophagi juts out too much

To the people who actually like this model just the way it is:

Do you think it would look better with a square top missile, less wide hips, bulkier legs, and maybe reduction of the belly armor?

As it is now, the model components (or "textures") look fine, but the mesh (shape) is terrible.

>>53490422
We didn't say the Emperium could do the damn thing justice, just that they stole the housing.

Pro- cool looking guns

Con - looks like a robotic M&m

>>53492294
I'm so fucking triggered by the painting of the barrels on that assault cannon

>>53532313
alda alda? are you retarded?

>>53542955

What gets me is that the barrels are drilled on the stormbolter.

>>53542955
>>53543678
The cannon is new, barrel holes are made when the first shot is fired

>>53542727
>To the people who actually like this model just the way it is:
>Do you think it would look better with a square top missile,
yes, but moving the missile pod to one side would also help. or even have the missile pod on its back in a vertical, pointing up fashion.

>less wide hips, bulkier legs,
yes on the legs. the hips are fine.

>and maybe reduction of the belly armor?
I'm not bothered by the belly, but rather that the front is very prominently sloped backwards. also, that it has no obvious sensors that is directed towards the ground. as it is now, it looks like it has a massive blind spot.

>>53537951
I imagine they are old dreadnought sarcophagii interred into the new chassis