MTG Standard General - /mtgsg/

I'll get the ball rolling: I've got two decks that I'm rolling with that have done pretty well in testing. What upgrades or cuts would you make to them, particularly in terms of sideboards? I especially need help with my Enigma Drake deck - I feel like it's trying to do too many things and at this point I almost think I should cut the Drake Havens.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/28-05-17-vFe-ur-control/
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/28-05-17-rg-pummeler/

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Attempting a janky-ass minotaur tribal deck will have a list soon-ish.

Who here thinks that Grixis Delver is objectively bad in the face of Shadow lists?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/convergence-control-v2/
This is honestly the memeiest deck I've ever considered.

Any tips for building a blue/black deck focusing on cycling?

>>53485996
looks super slow

>>53484346
This is what I'm working with

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/is-it-drake-1/

Don't know what I'm going to do when lightning axe and temper rotate.

I'm tempted to build Zombies. Should I go B/W or mono-black?

Also I'd rather not spend some 70 bucks on a playset of relentless deads because they're gonna drop like a stone once rotation hits, so is it possible to run mono-b without it?

What deck would you guys recommend for someone who is trying to learn to play magic?
Magic nights happen near me and I want in, so the deck needs to be reasonable enough to take to locals once i've learned my way around it.

>>53488944
p.s: I think i would like to play green

>>53487737

I'm trying to do the same thing dude.

Cryptbreaker, Relentless Dead, Diregraf Colossus and Dark Salvation are all gonna start coming down in price soon but only because the Zendikar and Shadows over Innistrad blocks are gonna be rotating out in September.

So, we've gotta try and find something else to support Dread Wanderer, Lord of the Accursed, Doomed Dissenter, Plague Belcher, Lilianna's Mastery and Fatal Push.

Wandering Servant is pretty cool but its the only deviation from a monoblack zombie deck and forces you to buy hybrid lands.

>>53489032
they're rotating that soon?

Is it even worth it to get back into standard at this point? I dropped out of standard in SOI and have been playing EDH primarly, i would like to get some cards together and play at my LGS again, any viable budget decks worth checking out?

>>53490147
Just don't buy into Marvel or Gideon. They are both likely to be banned in 2 months.

>>53489032
Crypt Breaker is literally what makes the deck good.

>>53485830
How's it going? I pulled Neheb in my first pack but I just don't see Minotaurs being all that versatile.

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I can't find any threads online about bg cryptolite, even though it made top 8 at the pt. Need help on a sideboard or maybe changes to the mainboard due to meta

>>53486532
I hate you for playing that cancer...
Lost to a kid with a blue black cycler using fetid pool,censor, as cycle power fatal push, and utilizing gearhulk for the vs shit he is.

>>53488944
Depends. Honestly I'd say playing a limited format is a better way to get into the game (and a draft is usually only like 10-15 bucks, and you keep the cards you pull or sell them if they're valuable and you want to go infinite); if you netdeck a standard deck it will be a fair amount more if you want it to be good, and you'll have to learn to pilot it.

>>53486532
I'm working on one as well. I splashed white to get cast out and fumigate, and to have some more sideboard options

As far as synergies go, I think drake haven is a better win con than faith of the devoted (unless you are more of a cycle-control style and less combo-y), even without annointed procession. Maybe I'm wrong on that though.

Either way you need some dudes on board at some point and some sweepers, to stablize you against aggro/midrange. I run 2x archfiend of ifnir as a clock and control engine after turn 5, turn 4 i have the black expertise card and turn 5 I have fumigate to stabilize.

I haven't played a game with shadowstorm vizer but that might be an option to be more aggresive. Alternatively you can just stall and cycle and then cast second sun twice, I saw a guy at LGS run a UBG cycle/control/second sun deck and it seemed neat, if gimmicky.

>>53489032
I already have cryptbreakers because I played R/B zombies for a while. I'm fine with 20 dollars for a playset of diregrafs but not 70 for a playset of mythics that will fall out of flavor.

As I understand it, mono-b is more aggressive while B/W packs more removal and can square against midrange better. I know at my LGS more people are trying to run control decks geared for aggro, so I'll probably brew B/W.

Standard is dead for sure
>4 mana wrath coming out
If marvel isn't banned standard actually will become a 1 deck format.

>>53489020
You can probably jam a couple of rhonases, some bristling hydras, a couple honored hydras, some channeler initiates and exemplars of strength etc and play mouth to feed and have a deck that will just run over some other decks.

Duskwatch Recruiter is pretty good. Manglehorn is probably necessary if people are playing Whirler Virtuoso and Marvel. Verdurous Gearhulk is nuts.

It's not super technical or fancy or clever but people only have like 26 life in standard and you can just fuck 'em up.

Who playing the new perspectives meme deck here?

Anyone use Fateful Showdown as the win con?

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Would love some assistance with an amonkhet only W/R embalm deck.
Personally need help with sideboard, I would love some hazoret support, but not sure, tormenting voice, anointed procession, an extra sweltering suns, insult//injury?

>>53494118
do you have a list? I was thinking about what the combo would be - dump hand somehow, use shadow of grave to pull it back, and then fateful showdown for like 14+ or something; but how do I get to that 6 mana (or more, depending; maybe you go for an 8 mana combo and shadow of the grave twice) combo + new perspectives + not die?

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>tfw

>>53494427
what am I seeing here

>>53494535
All anons answers to ulamog were exiled by ulamog, and the only counterspell anon had in hand does not work against ulamog.

>>53493858
What's this about a wrath?

>>53494611
New card from Hour of Devastation. Creatures lose indestructible, destroy all creatures.
4 CMC.
I think it's 2BB

>>53494633
it should be noted that this was an alleged leak that was in portugese and has the HoD promo art as its card art, so take it for what you will.

>>53494325

It's the same list as here, but -1 Renewned Hope and sideboarding the Ascension for 2x Fateful Showdown.

You stall until you cast New Perspectives and hope you don't wiff on Vizirs. If shit goes south, you can at least try for a turn 4-6 Showdown into Shadow for a quick hand reload.

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/against-the-odds-new-perspectives-combo-standard

Right now I'm wondering if putting in some Archfiends or something would improve matchups, but I still haven't felt out the impact of the Showdowns over Ascension.

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>>53494633
This, however I think it is fake because of how it is the image from the set...

>>53494912
>>53494633
Also isn't a story spotlight (planeswalker watermark), which is very unlikely.

>>53495020
I read somewhere that the symbol was from a nicol bolas archenemy set? It wouldn't surprise me if they printed something like that in an archenemy set but it would surprise me if they used the name of the set for a card that's not in the set.

Also I could be totally wrong about the archenemy thing - it's just hearsay and I certainly don't keep track of these things.

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>>53494594
Nice guess, but wrong. Here's a hint.

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>>53495085
Waiting for this

>it's a draft a sweet deck and draw nothing but lands or no lands episode

I'm starting to believe the haters.

>>53490147
yeah Standard is good

>>53490296
They're not going to ban Gideon 2 months before he rotates

And Marvel doesn't deserve a ban at all. People are just so accustomed to terrible standards that they instinctively think the best deck should be banned even if it doesn't make any motherfucking sense. Standard is demonstrably NOT a one deck format. And it's really hard to figure out what decks Marvel is keeping out of the format, and how exactly the format would improve if it got banned. It's completely unlike what previous ban candidates did to the formats they were in. Company was much more dominant / bad for the format than Marvel is. So was Copycat. They shouldn't have printed the card and it's definitely the best deck in the format but it also definitely does not need a ban. Just because you don't like playing against it is not a good fucking reason to ban it. It's ridiculous.

Also new Damnation is super fake

>>53495321
Since it's written "search that player's graveyard, hand, and library" does that mean I get to look through their deck and see every card OR do they do the searching and I see nothing?

>>53496026
You get to look. If in doubt the rules favour what makes it harder to cheat.

When would be the ideal time to sell my cards before they rotate? How do i know they will keep their value on modern?

>>53496180
if they are already being played in modern, they will go down in value when they rotate out of standard as standard players sell them

so sell them before they rotate if they are seeing modern play, it probably won't get better

>>53495085
That doesn't look like the set symbol to Archenemy: Nicol Bolas http://mtg.gamepedia.com/Archenemy:_Nicol_Bolas . Then again, the card on the left is low quality so maybe I just can't tell.

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The most powerful card in standard is a blue card. What were the odds of that?

>moving to a new city
>closest lgs only does standard events

I haven't played standard since theros, is it a mistake to get into it now?

>>53496881
Explain yourself.

>>53496935
yes it's a never-ending money sink
WotC can't balance shit.

>>53496968
""""""kills""""" ulamog

>>53496995
you mean, stalls ulamog for a turn unless you ALSO have removal to burn, thus losing you a card advantage. its better to play cast out or even final reward, or even compulsory rest!

>>53497043
it's best used as a combat trick after blocks are declared
the problem is that it doesn't answer any of the other threats from marvel decks

>>53487737
mono black is stronger but b/w is more fun.
>>53488944
Depends if you've played card games before or not.
>>53494912
This is the official art for the set, they have stated before they don't use the official art on cards in standard anymore, also a native speaker in that thread pointed out the wording is wrong.

>>53497100
>00 ▶
>>>53497043 (You)
>it's best used as a combat trick after blocks are declared
>the problem is that it doesn't answer any of the other threats from marvel decks

no, the problem with that is that you've exiled a lot of your deck after ulamog has declared the attack.

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This is the most fun I've had in years

>>53487737
B/W has a better marvel matchup and doesn't use relentless dead.

>>53497736
What is it

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>>53497851

>>53495942
>People are just so accustomed to terrible standards that they instinctively think the best deck should be banned even if it doesn't make any motherfucking sense
Lmao.
Emrakul already had to be banned because Marvel.
Turn 4 Ulamog on it's own is still making people want Marvel to be banned.
Literally ANY big dumb "I win" card printed while Marvel is standard legal is going to warp the format as long as Marvel is legal.
Marvel is going to get banned, if only because Wizards literally can't even design big dumb game winning cards because it exists in standard.

>>53497888
I don't get it. Is it just Crush your way to victory and hope your opponent gets annoyed to death?

>>53498089
Emrakul was much, much, much better in the deck than Ulamog is because it allowed you to combine the Marvel strategy with another powerful strategy (delirium) (and also because Ulamog-Emrakul was an even more unfun play pattern than Ulamog-Marvel)

Marvel is not powerful enough to be banned on its own, and it doesn't warp the format egregiously. Just being the most powerful deck does not make it ban-worthy.

Again, what archetypes is Marvel pushing out of the format? how would the format become more diverse as a result of a Marvel ban?

>>53498097
Hard lock with seasons past, crush, negate, and pick the brain, then wait until the opponent decks out. (I can also just beat in with lumbering falls after crush but that's no fun)

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Hey guys, I posted this list some days ago but I'd still like to hear thoughts about it. This is my first ever deck.

I've been trying to find interesting stuff to possibly add later. Seeing how the deck could potentially generate a ton of token creatures, could Oviya Pashiri be used to make some big artifact creatures? Also there's Rot Shambler, which could become something pretty ridiculous.

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>>53484062
I'm building 5c Bring to Light. It's almost done. I think it can be really nice since it's full of answers, and I expect the cards in it to go up in price when the sets rotate out.
I also have a Fling Metalwork never played with it, idk and a U/R Spells that performed well enough to get me a Glorybringer, although I still think it sucks ass.

>>53491398
Right now its rather tempo-y. The Minotaur don't do all that much on their own, but a threw in a few Glorybringers for lulz and it seems to work just fine.

>>53498421
>Marvel is not powerful enough to be banned on its own, and it doesn't warp the format egregiously.
This is the problem dumbass.
If Wizards wants to print any big dumb creatures on the level of Ulamog/Emrakul their either going to have to ban Marvel or ban the card they literally just printed.
...Or make a 10 CMC card so weak even casting it for free wouldn't be worth it.

For as long as Marvel is in the format, any game winning expensive card is a card that makes Marvel a more consistent win. And I doubt that Wizards is going to simply stop printing big dumb win condition cards.

>>53499197
>For as long as Marvel is in the format, any game winning expensive card is a card that makes Marvel a more consistent win.

But, no, that's not true. The only big-mana cards that make Marvel better and more consistent are ones that are more powerful than Ulamog. Which is a pretty high bar. Ulamog is very powerful. And I don't think the deck is broken with Ulamog, so it would have to be substantially more powerful than Ulamog to break the deck.

Maybe that'll happen IDK. But I don't think the deck is a problem right now, and there's no reason to think it's necessarily going to become a problem.

>>53499639
>And I don't think the deck is broken with Ulamog
Then you would be disagreeing with even pro players.
But the main issue with Marvel isn't that it's broken ( you're somewhat correct ). The problem is the randomness and lack of skill involved. Being able to randomly dump an Ulamog is bad. Being able to randomly dump an Ulamog on turn 4 and exile 2 opponents lands is unbeatable. There's not much interaction to stop it other than hoping they had bad luck and didn't find something good.

>>53499763
I mean, it's definitely not the kind of design that I would prefer them to make. I'm not saying Marvel is perfect by any means. I hope they do move away from that kind of randomness in design.

What I am saying is that I don't think Marvel should be banned. The deck is the best deck, but I think it's clearly beatable in the format, which says to me that Marvel isn't too powerful on its own. And while the Marvel+Ulamog combo is not great gameplay, it's by no means pervasive or awful enough to merit banning. Especially since there's IMO no evidence to suggest that Marvel is warping the format unhealthily or keeping other archetypes down. It's definitely the best deck and it's powerful and can be annoying, but it's not format-warping or destroying the format. To me, that doesn't merit a ban.

Also, Ulamog is rotating in 4 months and we don't even know how good the deck is going to be without it. Which is just another reason not to ban either.

>>53486532
Just play the ub control shell but trade a couple slots for archfiend and Drake haven

>>53499970
Your reasoning is flawed, and I'm going to sum it up in a sentence before giving parallels and examples: you're placing far too much value on what the enabling piece goes to find, and not enough on the enabler itself.

Consider this. Ulamog, while it was in standard from BfZ to EMN, saw only moderate play. As a finisher in an eldrazi ramp deck, perhaps, or an alternate win condition in a Crush of Tentacles deck. The reason for this is because the player still had to ramp to 10 mana. Additionally, as newmrakul made her premier, she found a comfortable home within the evolving strategies of bg delirium. Granted, players could cast her for as low as 6 mana, but it took a considerable investment in deck building to find a way to include all seven types of legal cards to shove into your graveyard. Doable, but ran a higher risk of bricking and whiffing than company decks and wb control.

Then kaladesh comes around, and with it the premier of Marvel. The meta was quiet for a while, with the pro tour showcasing delirium vs uw flash almost exclusively, and then Jacob Baugh wins the scg invitational with Naya aetherworks. The haymaker? Emrakul. Turns out casting a 13/13 flample on turn four or five with a mindslaver effect stapled on it is pretty decent. All of a sudden decks were including cards like Sigarda for the personal hex proof as an answer. Not long after, wizards rolled out the standard ban of the spaghetti monster, looter scooter, and that one guy seriously obsessed with mirrors, and the marvel deck went quiet for a while. Now, a few months later, the same strategy with the other eldrazi Titan is the most prevalent, not because Ulamog is auto include in standard decks, but because of the ease at which you can CAST him (another flaw in the design, casting spells instead of just cheating things in).

"But zombies beat marvel at the pro tour!" Anyone who watched those games knows that marvel bricked enough times to build a church.

cont.

>>53500994
"Well that just shows the deck just has to fail for it to be beatable". I'd agree if the deck hadn't evolved to the point that even if it bricks on its spins, which is growing more and more unlikely, it runs adaptable threats like whirler virtuoso to run over decks in the air.

Saying marvel isn't broken in a deck with high cost "win the game" cards is like saying that the card tinker isn't broken in artifact decks. It's the artifacts it goes to fetch. Its like saying that the creatures in a company deck are better than collected company itself.

It is not the threat that ultimately makes a deck like this exceptionally, and almost oppressively good. It's the piece that enables that threat to hit the field much earlier with no downside.

Speaking of marvel, I'm amazed we haven't seen much of 4c marvel just because of how much more flexible the deck gets with it. Is the space too tight?

>>53500994
>>53501075
No, I get what you're saying with that regard - I agree that Marvel is the enabler. If the deck was too good, I agree that Marvel would be the problem. But I don't think the deck is - in practice - too good. It's *good* but it's not broken or dominant, and is clearly less good than things like Copycat and Company were. That's basically the reason that I think it should not be banned. And WRT to Zombies and other decks, it's not just Zombies at the PT - while Marvel is clearly the best deck to play, it's not like it's out here winning every tourney, or even a predominant amount of them.

With regards to Ulamog, I *do* think that the power level of the Marvel targets affects the power of the deck. What I mean by that is that - for instance - the deck would be much more powerful if it could play Emrakul instead of Ulamog. Conversely, if it didn't have access to Ulamog, it would be worse. It might still be good, but it wouldn't be as good. What you're enabling is still an important part of the equation here. Even with Ulamog, I don't think the deck is broken, and I think it's far from a guarantee that we're going to get something better after Ulamog rotates.

Marvel is definitely doing unfair things. My point is that I don't think the actual deck is powerful enough to merit a ban. Nor does the annoying-ness of Ulamog merit a ban. It's not ban-worth even though it is powerful. Things have game against it.

>>53488944
You should have 4 foil copies of Tarmogoyf in your deck at all times, it doesnt matter what color your deck is or what format you're playing, its the only way to win

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>>53489020
Play RG Pummeler, RG Monsters or Temur Energy. Those names will sound like gibblerish to you right now but I gave you the exact names of the decklists so you could find them easily in the internet. Pick the one its flavour, way to be played and budget fits you the most.

Try to buy the singles you need, don't rely on booster packs or booster boxes. Don't get near any planeswalker preconstructed deck you could find in the shop, they are derivelately bad so "pros doesn't buyout them and casuals can have fun among them".

In my opinion, RG Pummeler would be a pretty good deck for you to learn to play aggresively, how to use pump spells and combat tricks in the best moment and a little of combo mechanics. It is, however, a Tier 2/3 ish deck so, depending on the metagame of your local game store, that could be enough or not. I mean, at the town next to the city I live, people tend to play Friday Night Magic with pretty much garbage decks but, where I live, it is almost like a mini proffesional tournament.

Anyways, don't get scared, enjoy the game and don't worry about loosing games at first. It is never a defeat unless you don't learn anything about it.

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>>53495361
Don't forget to sprinkle on the 50+ replies about how the card is a meh mythic that will make zero strides because "a free anthem does literally nothing in the format where everyone runs Jace."

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>>53503687
>Tarmogoyf
>Standard Thread
>mfw

tfw standard is so dead
why bros? will HoD and everything except kaladesh being out fix it? will people last a few more months with this semi-stale meta?

who else here is qualified for an rptq?

Deciding whether or not to go, it's pretty far away.

>>53504831
Doesnt matter the format amigo

>>53484062
Just bought into the New Perspectives deck. Need to decide which 2 of the 3 to play.

1. Cast Out
2. Censor
3. Sweltering Suns

>>53508152
cast out and censor, suns can sit in the board if you want them around

>>53498680
If you can afford to, you really should just get a playset of Blooming Marsh and/or Hissing Quagmire. Foul Orchard is only worth using if you really need the fixing, or are trying to stay as low-budget as you can.

>>53501075
>>53500994

I haven't played standard in years but Summoning Trap sounds like it was worse and it was in a rotation with the original eldrazi and Primeval Titan.

>>53510880
I think the difference is that Marvel isn't even a bad deck when it doesn't draw Marvel or doesn't hit Ulamog. Everyone whining about one card in that deck is dead wrong because the deck as a whole is just fantastic.

Banning Ulamog or rotating BFZ and SOI won't kill the deck because it's just a great value engine supported by good cards.

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What's Aetherworks Marvel? I don't remember any one or two drop cards with that name...

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What do you guys think about my UW Embalm Homebrew ?

https://manastack.com/deck/uw-embalm-2

>>53501607
>things have game against it.
Like what? Marvel is going to drop turn 4 ulamog a whopping 41% of the time assuming they had zero fetch or draw before that point. The only deck that can even pretend to interact is URx control, and guess what? Zombies and Mardu have wiped it off the face of the format! And barring a god draw neither of them can get a turn 4 kill anyway.

Marvel needs to be banned, not because it keeps other decks down, but because it removes all pretense of skill from the game. You spin the wheel and win or lose, full stop.

>>53501607
In a world where marvel doesn't exist, you can comfortably print big investment big payoff cards. You can't in a world where marvel does exist. The point you're trying to make is just further solidifying the argument. Marvel has a chokehold on design space and enforces a ceiling on raw power level of a card.

The main problem against marvel is that you cannot play around all the threats in the deck at once, which is what you're required to do. And the longer the game goes on, the higher percent chance is they'll land a bomb.

>>53510192
I'm sure it would make the deck overall more reliable if I had better lands, but at the moment I'm just starting out and would like to remain budget-y. Seeing how mine is something like a 15$ deck, I really just want to play and get into the game more before I buy lands that cost more than the rest of the cards combined. I'll definitely keep your advice in mind in the future, thanks.

>>53512620
Have you tried making an anti-marvel deck or are you just upset that someone ulamoged you and your just going to be salty because whaa pros run it a lot must be OP and broken?

Because crying like a bitch rather than teching and trying other ideas is how you get WotC to water down and further ruin their own game.

>>53497762
>The durdley midrange deck has a better match up vs marvel than the deck that is both resilient and applies a bunch of pressure early
Something doesn't add up

>>53498591
How the fuck is that a hard lock

>>53512620
Temur Energy, UR Control, RG Energy. and the fact that Mardu and Zombies are playable enough in the metagame to make UR Control unpopular kind of goes to my point that it's a diverse format.

More generally, like: the fact of the matter is that objectively Marvel is not running the tables. It is not putting up predominant results where it looks unbeatable. Other decks are still able to be competitive and win games, and there is a reasonable amount of diversity among those decks. And not just decks that are designed entirely around beating Marvel.

That's not the sign of a format or a deck that needs banned IMO.

>Marvel needs to be banned, not because it keeps other decks down, but because it removes all pretense of skill from the game. You spin the wheel and win or lose, full stop.

Well, that's a separate argument from it being too powerful. I agree that it's an annoying fucking deck to play against. I feel like that's a really weird precedent for a banning, though, and I think there's actually a really high cost to banning things and I don't think Marvel is worth it. In general, I don't think they should ban things for tournament play reasons.

>>53513457
Kind of? But also not really. I mean it's true to some extent, but I would also argue that the ceiling it enforces is very high. Again, Ulamog is actually an extremely powerful card in very specific ways and there is no guarantee that they're going to print something more powerful and better for the deck going forward.

If they print something in HoD or Ixalan that's more powerful and fucked-up than Ulamog, fine, ban Marvel. I don't think it needs a ban right now though.

>>53514354
The white brings extra interaction, namely exile. However, it's marvel so you'd better hope that they miss Ulamog when you anguished unmaking their marvel.

>>53484062
>All this people talking about baning marvel
That's why we need a counterspell reprint, so all the whinners stop playing magic and we can have actually good cards

>>53514499
But if you play counterspells, you lose to aggro decks. and therefore, logically speaking, this proves that Marvel is too good.

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>show up to fnm
>"aw shit, anon is here"
>play match one and win with U/R control
>"aw shit, anon is playing control"
>ask why they're groaning about me and the deck choice
>"because you grind out every match, and with control it's even worse. no one gets a free win"
>say, I guess that's a good thing?

how do i take these comments, friendos

>>53514499
>implying marvel won't just play counterspell

>>53514407
Once the opponent is in topdeck mode (usually after a few pick the brain casts), they can only draw at most 1 non-creature spell per turn. Because their creature spells don't effect our game plan due to recurring crush and fogs with Seasons Past, the non-creature spell that they may or may not draw is always going to be either countered or exiled with pick the brain. The only exception to this is aftermath spells, but the only playable one that really matters is memory, and keep a second negate in hand for that. Ribbons becomes irrelevant once Jaddi Offshoot has gained around 22< life.

>>53515697
>marvel runs counterspell
>has to drop some other good stuff it has
>not as strong and more of a combo-y deck

amazing its like that would be a good thing or something since it requires both players to slow down and make choices instead of spin the wheel.

>>53515815
You realize you can't recur seasons past with another seasons past right? It's not even close to a loop

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>>53501588
Anyone? The mana is good enough to where you can comfortably run 4 colors. Additionally, Ishkana isn't ran a whole lot despite being able to gum up the board like Virtuoso but without eating 3 energy every time. His ability can still be activated with hubs and servants too. And you would think more walkers would get jammed in the deck as well. Nahiri can exile Cast Out, which is one of the only answers to Ulamog while also being a consistency enabler and a threat if left unchecked by herself.

I want to make a standard deck that won't rotate out with zendikar/Shadows
Any suggestions?
Would prefer something more budget.

>>53515630
you sarcastically apologize for playing the card game.
>"Sorry for playing the card game man"

>>53517777
nice quads but if I had to take a guess I'd say he probably already does that kind of shit and just doesn't realize it. he either durdles when he doesn't need to or is a total ass

Are you retarded? I've been playing this deck for months, Seasons Past is the only card in my library.

Is desolator magic the worst mtg youtuber?

>>53519076
I might durdle a bit because I don't really get to play that often. So, especially when playing control, I have to think of the matchups and my lines of play.

And you know what? Since being back to magic for a year, I've only missed top 8 three times of the 30 or so FNMs I've gone to.

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>>53519424
Debatable, but we all know players and people he talks about... The validity is up to the viewer. If he posts on cheaters getting caught, that is true, if it is some he said she said hyperbole, probably not.

>>53512326
Embalm per se isnt that great i play it but with control and torrential gearhulk

>>53498680
I really want this deck to be strong but I think we need more support next set for it to stand against top tier shit.
>>53519949
If they're being dicks to you just be a dick back, as long as the owners like you and you aren't being an asshole to people for no reason there won't be a problem. Just don't get in peoples faces about it or something else autistic.

>>53493858
Fake as fuck. It's written wrong even in portuguese.

>>53517426
Maybe like an esper cycler with drake haven or faith of the devoted? Probably on the control side, I doubt you can make it too aggro and the combo might only work with certain boz/shadows cards

>no rg land post rotation

aaaaahhhh

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>>53523889
u wot

>>53494215
First you need some artifact counter, forsake the worldly, maybe 3 cast out and 4 angel of sanctions over manticore maybe?

>>53514435
>when you anguished unmaking their marvel.
Isn't it ALWAYS better to Anguish after the spin? If they hit Ulamog and target your lands, you can float the mana and Anguish Ulamog, then at least have some chance of rebuilding from there.

>>53516580
It would just swap for Negate and maybe Censor, which hardly makes a difference.

>>53523960
I think he means dual lands that can come in untapped? But I mean... Boo freaking hoo. Probably hour of devastation will have hp or tap duals probably.

>>53526281
Didn't WotC say they were going to keep tap lands consistently in standard now? They've been in every planeswaker deck so far, as far as I know.

>>53526281
I doubt we'll be seeing any more land cycles in amonkhet, uncommon or rare

>>53485830
you mean carddisadvantage.dec ?

>>53526441
The common taplands seem like a fixture but unconditional tapped lands are disgusting.

Hey guys just gonna post my first ever standard deck. I had some of the cards already and ordered the rest. And its pretty good against my friends, but we mostly play casual. So Im hoping to put it to the test next chance I get, possibly this friday.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/haste-with-burn/

Uses my favorite colors and my favorite planeswalker Liliana. Any suggestions would be appreciated

>>53527700
Also i have no sideboard so any input wpuld be nice, cause i have like no idea what to put there lol. Also im wondering if the aether hubs really fit or not, I just came up on them at home and decided to put them in to prevent manafuck

>>53527700
So most people will tear into you about how your deck isn't refined to a T but i say just play with it and build it up over time. Foreboding ruins might be worth considering if you like red/black.

As far as sidedeck I'll just spitball some cards good vs the meta:
Scarab Feast = destroys control/gearhulk decks
Sweltering Suns = free win vs zombies or other aggro
Insult/Injury = Go faster than the other guy
Disposses = Fuck marvel
Transgress the Mind = Also good vs control and midrange

There are probably more things but that's all I got off the top of my head.
You already bought all the things so go play with it some, we can tell you what to change all day but I think you'll get it better if you "feel" what works and what doesn't.

>>53484062
When will mill be viable again?

>>53530410
mill was viable before planeswalkers were a thing. Now instead of locking down the board and milling your opponent to death, you lock down the board and ult your superfriends.

Also milling your opponent these days basically gives them free cards, since there are so many graveyard synergies in standard

>>53530744
Drownyard control, Elixir control and all flavors of Sphinx's Tutelage were viable decks.

>>53516626
Not same anon, but from what I can see it's pretty reasonable to assume by the time he's casting a seasons past he's about out of cards in his library. So his hard lock is when he's drawing the same seasons past every turn for the rest of the game, recurring answers to any situation while bashing with lands.

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any good sideboard cards for w/u control against aggro?

>>53536895
fumigate
authority of the consuls
failure///comply (depends on the specific MU)
impeccable timing

>>53536895
>>53537183
also depending on what style deck you're playing trueheart duelist may be a choice as well.

>>53538585
Trueheart Duelist is a surprisingly adequate Moment's Peace.

>>53538719
yeah, it's not foolproof obviously but the guy is value and the option to get 2 damage in if your opponent has a bad draw or he gets prevented from blocking can sometimes make the difference in an aggro matchup.

>>53510880
Valakut ramp was pretty fun.

>>53498421
Marvel pushes out less aggressive decks that aren't draw-go gearhulk.

CREATURES - 9
-------
2x ARCHFIEND OF IFNIR
2X CURATOR OF MYSTERIES
1x KEFNET THE MINDFUL
2x SHADOWSTORM VIZER
2X TORRENTIAL GEARHULK

INSTANTS - 19
-------
2x NEGATE
2X ESSENCE SCATTER
4X CENSOR
4X HEIROGLYPHIC ILLUMINATION
2X PULL FROM TOMORROW
3X FATAL PUSH
1X RENEWED FAITH
1X DISALLOW

SORCERIES - 2
-------
1X FUMIGATE
1X YAHENNI'S EXPERTISE

ENCHANTMENTS - 5
-------
4X CAST OUT
1X NEW PERSPECTIVES

LAND - 25
-------
2X FETID POOLS
4X IRRIGATED FARMLAND
2X CONCEALED COURTYARD
7X ISLAND
5X SWAMP
4X PLAINS

thoughts, preferably low budget ones?

>>53498680
I thought of replacing two of the Foul Orchards with two Grasping Dunes, since nothing besides Hapatra needs more than one colored mana anyway.

>>53498680
maybe decimator beetle is too slow but it seems like a fit here. not sure what gets cut for it though.

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>>53540555
Decimator Beetle was the exact last creature I decided to drop to fit everything else.

The best thing about that card would be that it could create -1/-1 counters by simply attacking, so theoretically an infinite amount given enough turns. Nothing in the current deck besides Hapatra can do this, and even she has to attack a player. But I'm not sure what to drop, either.

I don't have much of a plan for the sideboard, except that I thought to include some Stinging Shots in case the opponent plays a lot of flyers.

>>53540902
I would say maybe go down a nest of scarabs and splendid agony. but I actually think, looking at it again, that instead of 2x beetles, 1 beetle and 1 bontu might be better. you can use him to sac a snek or bug for scrying and a bigger body.

as for a sideboard I'd say lost legacy is a good card, other than that i dunno for your deck.

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>really want to play Zombies while they're actually good in standard but fucking hate building new decks when rotation is "close".
>modern zombies cost more than a T1 deck for none of the results

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>>53484062
this card worth making a deck around? going to be getting 2 copies of it over the summer, i think around july

i heard somthing abount bant companies liking it but i dunno.

>>53544055
>around july
m8, not sure how to break the news to you...

>>53544657
oh thats when eldritch moon and the other shit is rotating out isnt it?

well, i'll mosy on over to the modern general then if thats the case.

is it at least a good card for midrange/control sot of deck?

>>53544733
in modern? not really. I've only really seen it in janky doubling season cheese combo builds

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>>53544055
>>53544657
>>53544733
Nope.

Hour of Devastation, which is part of the Amonkhet block, is releasing in July. This will not affect the current Standard roster other then the inclusion of new cards.

Battle for Zendikar, Oath of the Gatewatch, Shadows over Innistrad and Eldritch Moon will be rotating out in September when the new block (tentatively named Ixalan) is released.

Sell your cards from the departing blocks now if you wanna get good money from them as it'll be all downhill from here

>>53544888
so im assuming you cheese to her 7 and throw out big shit like ulamog?
>>53545504
oh thats god to know, although i like collecting stuff and making cheesy casual decks so i think i might keep them a bit.

>>53496881
lol no that card fucking sucks

>>53544055
The problem is bant itself is not very good right now, especially in comparison to the other UG combos.

>>53545539
basically resolve a doubling season then slam her or jace the bulder and then can either play emmy (OG) for free or play a jace the builder for free on the same turn and that lets you get out your emmy and their best card from your decks

>>53545868
Ok, I will keep that in mind

And which jace are you talking about when you say jace the builder

>>53545979
architect of thought

>>53546008
Oh ok

>>53542936
>tfw all of the cool decks are rotation out in a huge ass cluster
>want to build things like spirits/vamps/eldrazi but they are all on the clock
>vehicle and energy shit are the only safe options
It hurts.

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I don't mean to sound like a nostalgiafaggot, but I really miss everything from RTR-DTK. Hell, even Origins. This little fucker won me so many games.

>>53548047

I'm glad Intimidate has been replaced by Menace but it would be cool to see Devotion return as a mechanic. I love building mono-colour decks and while it's generally smarter to build multi-colour in draft ( which is the format that new releases are always built around) I really hope we see it at some point in the future :)

Anyone have anything can put +1/+1 counter in token with in easper colour range?

>>53550925
Serene Steward

>>53551328
Problem it's only of I gained life also target one creature need something that can target warriors and servos.
But thanks for hint

>>53515630
O FUCK I FORGOT ABOUT CHUBBY LEXI FUCK YOU NOW I GOTTA FAP

>>53551529
It's hard to really know what to sugest without knowing your deck and what can synergise.

>>53551901
I'm using esper token deck with hidden stockpile and anointed procession combo also running couple of creatures like yahenni and herald of anguish and couple of remavol and counterspells also two blue gearhulk, so far my only problem is making my tokens treat to my opponent but so far only found cards like mimic and Nissa can give me counters my creatures but can't run both because mimic die to removal easily and Nissa need to be abzan based deck found it hard to build it because getting these cards is quite hard right now, I'm trying to find other way to make my tokens more treating then just blockers.

These leaks are really making me think, Bontu's Last Reckoning seems decent, Bolas seems Bolasy, but Samut the planeswalker is about as boring as Samut the creature. Seriously if Arlinn Kord didn't see any play in RG decks what hope does this have until post rotation?

>>53555778
I feel like samut might work for jund decks, especially when you can get her to 7 loyalty as soon as she hits thr field if you have 2 snakes up.

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>>53555842
What?
That's not how constrictors work, at all.

>>53555842
Wow /tg/ is bad at magic

>>53555842
Nigga..... Please be b8ing

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>>53555842

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>>53555778
Samut had a place in brews. Namely with Odric. You'd flash in the Samut at the end of the turn, cost Odric, and depending on your board, just auto-win.
Walker Samut is trash.
>-2 to shock

>>53557342
Samut as a walker and as a creature are boring though, that part of my statement is true. Creature Samut was just a pile of keywords, nothing interesting there at all. Walker Samut is just as boring
>+1 to give double strike
truly delving deep into their creative wells for this one
>-2 to twin bolt
lol
>-7 to dig out two creatures or other walkers
the most interesting part of her design if only for the fact that you can dig out her creature version and something else like ulamog to have them both attack with haste, or that you can just ult her to get out two good planeswalkes from your deck

who wants to guess what the oath of samut is going to be?

>>53555778
>new plainswalker

oooo, any pictures of the leak?

>>53558205
>become the monarch

>we wuz god pharoahs n shiet

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>>53560516
some brainlet put the images up on the french site apparently

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>>53560516

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>>53560516
then a non-planeswalker

>>53560623
>people seriously think leaks aren't done on purpose
What a shock that Hasbro's share prices went up today.

>>53560623
>>53560638
>>53560678
coolio

wasnt samut the one lay shreiking the hours are a lie in the first bit of amonkhet lore?

>>53560899
Got it in one kiddo.

>>53560848
I'd get that if it was just Bolas and the sorcery getting leaked but nobody is getting excited over samut getting to scream WE WUZ all over the multiverse now

>>53560966
wewuz worthynsheeeit

>>53560899
imagine to be djeru
>you spend your entire life to prove yourself worthy in the trials
>this is it, the moment you've been waiting for, you're about to be deemed worthy
>some faggot and your old friend shows up to ruin the greatest moment of your life
>your god shows up and everything goes to shit
>faggot and your old friend just leave your entire world as things go to absolute shit

>>53561118
maybe they'll make djeru a plainswalker too so the gatewatch can have the annoying couple trope

>>53561406
I want him to spark and meet up with Garruk and they go on to hunt planeswalkers together.

So when's that Marvel ban finally going to happen?

>>53562317
Probably after rotation when they realize the deck is still fucking busted even without Ulamog. Or it'll never happen like CoCo.

>>53562317
2-3 weeks after the new set if it keeps stomping.
Can't sell the new set if everyone is buyer the older ones after all.

>>53562418
>Ban Marvel after rotation
>Energy decks are still busted because the mechanic is busted in a slow format.

>>53563490
>a resource that is completely uninteractable from the opponents perspective is busted in a format with lower card power

man if only design could have seen this coming, maybe by being better at the game or having play testers that don't tunnel in on shit decks

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>>53552203
>my only problem is making my tokens treat to my opponent
Pic related, problem solved. Add some Westvaley Abbey and the mere existence of those servos would fuck those poor players up.

Drop blue and focus just in creating and protecting tokens with black and white. Fragmentize, Disposses and Forsake the Worldly for artifacts, Stasis Trap, Cast Away, Never//Return and Lost Legacy for Ulamog and planeswalkers. Tresspasser's Curse and Yahenni's Expertise for mirror matches or to cleanse the board against zombies. Fatal Push for Kiran.

It isn't rocket science. Black and White have the best removals and counter bombs in this standard.

>>53563858
I was always curious to see that fortress that dude is on in full. Shit looks like a fucking ship turned into a fortress on a flying island, which sounds rad as hell.

>>53563908
>So when's that Marvel ban finally going to happen
Believe me, I was intrigued too until I could find the full art. A shame Zendrikar block was all about elementals and eldrazi. Civilization there looks like a mixture of Indiana Jones and Dark Sun. A mixture I would have loved to explore entirely.

>>53555778
How is Arlinn still $7 when she sees no play anywhere?
I don't understand. Is it casual werewolf tribal players keeping it up?
Though I do run her as a one-of in my deck since she synergizes well with heart of kiran and I've managed to get a few kills with her wolfbolt ability.

>>53561118
On a scale of 1-10 how big of dicks are the gods in the story?

Speaking of gods, is there any way to make Oketra playable? The best I've managed to come up with her is a shitty aristocrats-style deck, which is already pretty shitty.

>just ordered foil Emrakul
Finally got all three of these fucks in foil. Once each.

Now to hope they ban Marvel pre-rotation, unban Emmy because of it and I can play my janky, fluffy Eldrazi Titan deck again.

>>53564125
>unban a card they banned
>consumer confidence sinks to an all time low

>>53564171
>Wizard admits they banned the wrong card like almost everyone has been saying
>people start believing them again

It won't happwn but it would be nice.

>>53564077
>how big of dicks
3. They are pretty nice and generous to the population, help them, spend time with them and genuinely care about the plane and its inhabitants. Ir's just that the trials are pretty cruel for an outsider, though I wouldn't say they're dicks for doing their job, especially when everyone living on the plane is happily following that religion.

>>53564077
Actually, those gods are really down to earth and total bros in their own ways. They get worried of their subjects and try to help them directly. Even when Samut (aka WE WUZ KANGS) was a chased dissident, Hazzoret welcomed her into her house. Even when she just spitted verbally on her dignity as a goddess. They are bros who are killing people under the """"""legitimate"""""" (for them) premise they are send them to a better place, away of that undead sandy hell.

>>53564077
>How is Arlinn still $7 when she sees no play anywhere?
>I don't understand. Is it casual werewolf tribal players keeping it up?
she sees fringe play in some decks but they aren't really hugely competitive, then you have casual play and EDH decks. SOI block also had no masterpieces so it wasn't cracked as hard as other recent sets so casual appeal can actually float their price decently

>>53564171
>>53564208
Yeah, unban a card which will rotate out in less than 2 months, considering they ban Marvel when Hour of Devastation arrives. Yeah, costumers will really trust Wizards.

They can't ban so easily each deck arquetype who gets a little more powerful than the rest because people won't buy then those cards and boosters, since they are too afraid of their wonderful deck to get canned and banned. This isn't League of Legends where Riot can launch a broken character and balance a little after the shekels were milked.

>>53564382
>little more powerful
>has been a dominant deck since its release despite being hit by bans and didn't even change anything despite a new set release

Marvel was a mistake.

>>53564125
Yeah even if they ban Marvel emmy is staying banned, they banned it because a mind slaver with pro instants that can be cast for like 7 mana in this kind of standard was fucking stupid

What are the best energy producers in grixis?

>>53564682
Shielded Aether Thief, Harnessed Lightning, Whirler Furioso (or whatever that 3 mana UR dude is called) would be the first to come to mind. There's also Glimmer of Genius and that black "get 2 energy, lose 2 life, draw 2 cards" spell.

>>53564765
virtuoso
>>53564682
also glint-sleeve siphoner

Who would you guys say is the most and least annoying member of the Gatewatch?

>>53565715
>most
Depends on the set, currently Chandra
>least
Also depends on the set, right now either Ajani or Jace, since neither of them really are doing much right now and Ajani is overall a pretty nice guy.

>>53565715
>Most
Nissa. Rapidly becoming a mary sue, and someone on the design team is clearly shoving their shit tier waifu down everyone's throats.

>Least
Probably Jace surprisingly enough, he's honestly had less focus since the gatewatch was a thing, and went back to being more of a goofball than a brooding edgelord

>>53564765
>>53564983
Might just make it 4 color glint eye to have access to green for attune and puzzleknot

>>53566002
4 color isn't an issue because attune is retarded but you could also just crutch on hubs for puzzleknot secondary activations

>>53563858
This is what I've been playing around with lately, and it's a lot of fun. You don't really bother with Gideon's emblem all that much, you just completely overrun people with servos and other various tokens while being able to scry through chunks of your deck every turn while gaining more tokens back with Stockpile/Procession.

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/647455#paper

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Did someone say Vizier of the Menagerie? I've been streaming with this deck for a while and it's pretty good. I'm hoping we get more flash threats in HOU.

>>53568248
Seems sweet, how's the zombies matchup?
I like Queller a lot, I've been brewing esper control to be anti meta. I'll probably try to play him until rotation. And Cast Out is pretty lit

>>53568248
You could get a bit of value out of Heron's Grace Champion with your Trackers and Refiners.

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>6e, tap and spin my MAH-VEL
>cast Bolas
>+2, target you...
>cast Ulamog, trigger
>target your things

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZZUMjoxfZA

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>>53569318
What was the thought process behind developing Newlamog anyway?
>ok it's a 10 mana 10/10 indestructible
>and it exiles two permanents on cast
>and it exiles 1/3rd of your opponents deck on attack
>you mean on combat damage, right?
>no, just attack 3 times with your massive indestructible creature and you win

>>53568248
I like it, but I'd like it more with new Nissa.

>>53569353
>Let's make him cost 10, nobody will ever actually cast him except for EDH and Tron faggots.

>>53569513
>cost 10
>in a block where Eldrazi Scions are a thing

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After a full year of updates and tweaking, the deck is nearing perfection, though it just needs a few tweaks in terms of quantities of various cards to cope with the current meta. A refined version of my Green/White humans list:

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/gw-humans-big-sigs-crazy-party/

Scarier than it has any right to be. Solid Tier 2 at the very least. Doesn't immediately crumple to Ulamog, is quite adaptable and can play a weird confusion game with the opponent. Can either go ham with aggro or hold back and stabilize. Super fun, even if it's not going to take down a GP before rotation. I'm proud of it.

>>53569244
Very good. Advocates pair nicely against the early threats. Tamiyo is strong and does so many things. Elder Deep Fiend is the real king though.
>>53569270
I've considered it - it's just hard to find the space.
>>53569491
I've tested the new Nissa - I sided it out basically every game. There was no match up where I wanted it. It's just kinda underwhelming, even though it looks super exciting. I'd be willing to test it again, but it wasn't good when I tested it a few weeks ago.

>>53564125
never balance a game.

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Does anyone actually enjoy playing against control? The current U/R lists are the fucking dullest thing I've played against in a while.

>>53571401
I like playing against wrath of god, but playing against torrential gearhulk is just lame.

>>53571485
The resurgence of Engulf the Shores is the worst part of it for me. Instant speed board bouncing is fucking stupid.

>>53542936
>>53546822
I know how you feel.

This is all thanks to them going back on the smaller Standard pool.
We would have only had to wait until Ixalan for standard Tier 1 Zombies pieces to crash.

>>53560848
I'm inclined to agree. It happens way too suspiciously often and what other gaming company do you know of to be so plagued by leaks.

>>53565715
>>53565894
Seconding Nissa most, Jace least.
They made her the literal poster child for green and they still went and made her GU.

>>53572085
>nissa picks up blue mana as a hobby and instantly mind controls a god of pure thought, something even jace couldn't do
>somehow people think nissa isn't a mary sue

>>53572165
Im feeling glad I dropped reading magic story after innistrad. Kaladesh didnt look very fun and nissa becoming blue feels like as much bullshit as when sarkhan did.

>>53572165
>everything, literally everything suddenly consists of muh leylines
I like Nissa because of how autistic she is but fuck leylines

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>>53572740
I share this exact same sentiment.

Her autism is actually pretty amusing, but where they go with it is the opposite.

Nothing about her actual card is even blue either. People point at the scry 2 but really?
We've seen scry 2 in mono green a bunch of times. Blue doesn't have a monopoly on scry.
Pic fucking related. They put it wherever they want.

>>53573000
Her ultimate gives lands flying, which is a very blue thing. They could have used trample as evasion but it seems that wizards is trying to get away from that mechanic.

>>53569353
it being on-cast and not-etb was supposed to fix shit

>>53573045
Oh come on. Planeswalker ultimates are the most colorbleeding shit around.
New Samut can fetch planeswalkers with her ultimate which is a white thing.
New Bolas ult can exile enchantments on the field, which even the blue in him shouldn't be able to do.

Nissa's ult could have easily been made to give another evasive mechanic.
Wizards is also not moving away from trample, they're in fact increasing it, even showing up more often in red.

And has Nissa ever actually made animated lands fly?
Why would she be able to now? Because of leyline hacking? That's a stretch over the stretch that is god-mcing leyline hacking itself.

>>53573433
"Muh leylines", -Nissa when she does something

>>53571401
I love playing against control because i am playing Metalwork Colossus and it fucking rekts them. Marvel players get fucked too when I win g1.

>>53573433
Tbf the samut creature has a white mana ability so I guess having a white ult isn't so crazy?

https://www.channelfireball.com/articles/no-longer-a-one-deck-metagame/

Thoughts?

>>53577224
That would be fair if the planeswalker card itself costed white mana.

>>53577933
I think you are being too literal serious about the card design rules you've probably just made up.

>>53577881
Weren't CFB the ones saying "No, Mardu Vehicles isn't dominating the meta at all!" last standard? Seems like they bullshit people to keep selling cards pretty often, especially in some of those top 10 videos with the asian guys, that try to push shit cards they happen to have a huge stock of.

>>53577881
Neither of the alternative decks have a chance in hell of beating marvel on a regular basis.
In fact, I'd wager it's not really possible to have a consistently good matchup against marvel so long as it can just win on t4 with Ulamog. It's just a fucking throw of the dice if you're going to win or lose.

>>53578712
they also published an article by Mike Sigrist this standard saying that Marvel was way too good and the only playable deck and needing to be banned so I'm not sure if the conspiracy angle holds up there

>>53579492
I think you can have a consistent matchup against Marvel if you sell out against it, but then you get your shit owned by other decks

Which is actually a sign that this meta is healthier than the previous Standard. Last Standard, the best deck was the one that sold out against Copycat (Mardu Vehicles). cause there were no other decks to prey on it. Whereas this Standard, there's a healthy metagame and so there are decks around that'll eat your lunch if you sell out against Marvel. So it's better. Still not great but better.

>>53579700
Marvel is not favored against control, but control is pretty weak and easy to get under especially post-sideboard.

>>53580108
that's my point though. if Marvel was as dominant as people say, control would be the best deck.

People are just mad because it's unfun to play against, which, fair. But it's not broken.

>>53538808

>guy

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>FNM today
>There is a lot of people
>Like A LOT
>Five matches instead of the usual 4.
>Win 3 matches, have a draw match and loose 2 because of Marvel "Oh shit, I Ulamoged you! :D"
>Score fifth in the leaderboard
>Only the first 4 players get the promo

Really, this was a promo I really wanted and needed. How is it possible there is so few? We were around 20 players last month with Unlicenced Disintegration and we all had the promo. Is it LGS bullshit or WotC's bullshit? Gotta guess I will never get those promo Fatal Pushes... Funny enough, the first FNM in September will take place in my birthday.

About the matches where I have lost, welp the one which made me feel even worse was when I left the enemy with 2 hp in turn 4. He just spinned, "LOL ULAMOG! :D" and exiled my scrounger and my veteran motorist, leaving me without attackers and a sitting Kiran. Next turn, attack. The first card exiled was Unlicenced Disintegration. I only draw another land in my next and last turn. Let me tell you, a card which it depends entirely about luck or having all the sideboard you had in hand and ready is quite bullshit. Like A LOT of bullshit. Because you feel stealed. Specially since it feels like it was what made me loose that promo.

>>53580792
Marvel is favored against control dipshit

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>>53569244
A more detailed answer to "How's the zombies matchup?".

So I'm going to my first fnm next week. I missed this one due to a camping trip.

How would this deck fair at fnm levels of magic. I had a peek at game day and the decks were mostly tier 1 and 2 with a little jank and budget here and there.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/is-it-drake-1/

Could I splash white for cast out and renewed faith. I might have to when lightning axe and temper rotate. How should the mana base look at that point.

>>53587221
Goingtolosetomarvelfaggotry/10

Hope you like getting Ulamog'd, because there's no fucking escaping it in the current meta.

>>53588843
Yh. My Marcel match up ain't brilliant. I can put on the pressure and even keep the marvel of the battlefield but if they land it, there's no coming back from ula

>>53589655
Yeah fuck that Marcel guy.