Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>53470847
How does that hair ornament thing work? The longer I look at it, the less sense it makes...

I don't play characters with too much spunk. You just wind up with a lot of kids.

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>>53470847
So lasers do fire damage right?

Would something like the gravity pistols do force damage? Also, is crushing damage a new damage type in Starfinder?

>>53470847
They aren't generally that spunky. The spunkiest I ever played doesn't really rate highly on the Spunk-O-Meter because, even though she was an exuberant girl that fought for her friends, she was generally too calm and collected to be truly spunky, and when she lost her cool, it was due to rage or hatred, which isn't spunky either.

So not very spunky, unfortunately. I should try to play a spunky fighty girl soon to expand my horizons!

>>53470901
Nobody knows anything other than that Paizo is making it and it'll be disappointing. All signs point to guns being crossbows refluffed.

>>53470919
>all signs

"All signs" being literally just a single level 1 statblock

>>53470901
Given that "Energy AC" is a specific thing, there might be a bunch of different energy types to correspond to bludgeoning/piercing/slashing. Or, maybe it'll reuse energy types from Pathfinder, and there will be fire/cold/electricity/acid lasers.

>crushing
Probably just bludgeoning+piercing.

>>53470847
So, is her head just smooth skin where normally the ears would be?
Also, is that crown of thorns glued to her forehead? I doesn't actually wrap around her head...

So, what do you think about Crystal developing the Taldor AP?

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>>53470933

I can only imagine the myriad affects you can achieve with different types of energy weapons.

>>53470972
Is that actually happening?

>>53470972
Taldor AP?

>>53471011
You'd better believe it. Next AP after Ruins of Azlant will be the Taldan crisis one.

>>53470847
I wanna spunk a cute brown fighty girl!

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>>53470972
>Frasier ruining what could've been the greatest AP so far

>>53471027
Given who's writing it, I believe you mean the "Glorious Qadiran Conquest" one.

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>>53470972
>>53471224
Will Crystal retcon away Taldor's misogyny?

>>53471261
Nah, she'll probably just have the PCs railroaded into "seeing the light" and defecting to Qadira long about book 2.

Is there any way to make a level 1 character with low Con work?

>>53471789
Play with a GM who you know will never kill off PCs. Play a character who never goes on adventures. Have a backup character ready to go at a moment's notice.

tl;dr No.

>>53471789
Bloodforge feat for Cha to hp

>>53470933
>fire/cold/electricity/acid lasers.
We Borderlands: TPS now?

>>53470919
Guns ARE crossbows refluffed, evn in real life.

>>53471839
What's the name of that feat?

>>53471878
Altered Life, and it's one of the Heritage feats.

>DAA STILL HASN'T EDITED THE CHARACTER RULES
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>53471898
Oh. Is there a way to be an aberration, fey or ooze-type or anything like that?

>>53471907
aaaaaaaaaa

Someone review the DAA apps please there's only like 10 of them

>>53471910
Avowed is an easy one, you can count as the same type as your Patron Fey and take the feat if you're a Court Fey Avowed. It's easy to rack up lots of CHA synergy with Fey Avowed.

aaaaaaaaaaaaa goodmorning

>>53472104
Good morning! Have any interesting PF plans for today?

>>53472102
Citation needed on counting as the same type

Only dragon lets you do that

>>53472113
Nooope

>>53472104
Wist, let me RP an orgy scene with all your pfg characters at once!

>>53472130
aaaaaaa i'm not wist

Which game would be most receptive to a gay gnoll?

>>53472128
Let's make an interesting plan, then! What's your Discord?

>>53472145
Flower Court, no question.

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Where are the reviewanons please write reviews for my entertainment

>>53472162

Great! Where do I apply?

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>>53472221
>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77814/ensoulment-of-the-flower-court

>>53471261
It's already been retconned, the Bearded lore and Sarenrae hate has been removed when Jimmy Jacobs talked to Jessica Price.

>>53472202
>>53472233
Too many people apply to games with dainty virgins, not enough go with flagrant sluts.

This kind of makes me sad.

>>53472202
why would anyone want a public reviewanon when the great and powerful protag will do it in private and be useful

I swear, reviewanons are mostly useless, the only one I've seen that was ever any good was the one doing the ROaB reviews and thats because they focused on characters driving factors, suitability to the campaign style, and creativity in parts, not anything else.

>>53472259
Do one for DAA then
Also they're fun.

>>53472251
Wasn't there a whole game about sluts?

>>53472267
I have zero interest in DAA, as I think that games mostly a disaster.

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>>53472251
Not even IKiD

>>53472271
Not sure if you're fishing for an Overlewd joke, a PLD joke, or just a RotJR joke.

>>53472283
Dragons joke possibly

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>>53472251
Give me the seed of a decent app that's a flagrant slut for every game currently open, and I'll apply with at least one of them, maybe more!

>>53472271
Probably? I'm talking about sluts in a game that doesn't revolve around being a slut.

>>53472280
IKiD is a great player, but there needs to be more effort on other people going with lascivious whores.

>>53472283
>>53472289
>they forgot about Blingmaker

See, there are a whole bunch of sluts. Slutanon is just confused.

>>53472233
>>53472162
>>53472221
>idiots filling up Flower Court with sluts
Get the fuck out

>>53472299
>IKiD is a great player

Says who?

>>53472307

A homosexugnoll isn't necessarily a slut.

>>53472294
Which game do you want to apply to the most? I've got ideas, but I need to FOCUS.

Flower Court is the easiest, as Hooker with a Heart of Gold or a back-alley gutter slut taking a crash course in nobility is sweet and arc-y.

>>53472324
how long have you been holding onto this joke, be honest

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>>53472307
Look at it this way; an abundance of apps will generate buzz, but slut apps are sure to lose, so it's a way to increase the potential of getting a few gems without creating a huge kerfuffle because there are too many good ones.

>>53472312
Everything from the LOGS suggests they can really turn a phrase or write vivid, descriptive scenes.

>>53472325
Flower Court, Fangwood, and DAA

>>53472307
>>53472332
The best part is a slut in Flower Court will still technically be in the game. They're technically still available for side-stuff.

>>53472329

It's been the unfinished business that's kept me from crossing over into the afterlife. It's really hard to find an opening for it in your average seance.

>>53472332
Shit apps will never be good, though. Unless they're shit enough to be comic relief.
>>53472343
Assuming anyone cares to involve themselves with them.

>>53472336
>LOGS
Every Dog has his Day

So what is the latest buzz on Ensoulment?
What party would you like to see out of the current apps? Is there any character you specifically don't want in the party?

>>53472340
Flower Court is the aforementioned concepts you quoted.

Fangwood is either the local tavern slut who has an alter ego (vigilante) as the defender of the village's vulnerable men and women, make her a worshiper of Lymnieris and it's on the money - or hell, she could be even be a Chosen One Paladin of Lymnieris with a cute familiar. Second idea is a camp follower who became a man's bed-warmer to learn more about alchemy and triage, and although her man turned out to be a cheating asshole her lust for concoctions (and alchemy) remained, supplying the guys with medicine and girls with Night Tea.

DAA is PM THEM.

>>53472343
Wait...so you're saying all these thirsty Anons just have to apply to the game, and they get a free ticket to ERP with the players?
The likely-to-be Celeb-tier players? Up to and including DHB?
Keep your eyes on suspicious slut apps, /pfg/. That's where you'll find Harem Anon, I have no doubt.

>>53472381
A well-written whore will not only get in, they'll get to ERP with PCs or NPCs and it will be 100% canon.

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>>53472378
>DAA is PM THEM

That's not...That's not a concept, Anon.

>>53472373
I want Kino and Kino's martial brother!

>>53470897
Glue.

>>53472390
So it's just a crazy, jackpot, high volume game for maximizing ERP with as many targets as possible?

That tears it, Harem Anon is in that game somewhere, if not running it personally...

>>53472373
Broodie's app is like on its what, 5th or 6th rewrite now?

>>53472393
Concepts are worthless without a partner you want to play it with.

DAA could be anything from a Paladin slut who fell madly in love with an evil being's wiles, or a Succubus, or maybe a thicc Vampire? I apologize for being ambiguous because DAA doesn't give a lot of room for being specific.

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>>53472378
>Fangwood is either the local tavern slut who has an alter ego (vigilante) as the defender of the village's vulnerable men and women, make her a worshiper of Lymnieris and it's on the money - or hell, she could be even be a Chosen One Paladin of Lymnieris with a cute familiar. Second idea is a camp follower who became a man's bed-warmer to learn more about alchemy and triage, and although her man turned out to be a cheating asshole her lust for concoctions (and alchemy) remained, supplying the guys with medicine and girls with Night Tea.

I may steal these if Slutappanon doesn't use them. They're pretty nice! I just need to find art...

>>53472373
Giancarlo, WIST, Cornelia, Kino, Jericho.

>>53472373
I posted Witch and I want to get in

>>53472428
>or maybe a thicc Vampire

Elaborate.

Newbie here, I lack the masochism or autism to go through every single goddamn feat, spell and guide to find this, so I'll ask this shit here.

1) Is there any sort of spell or rune or something, which can basically be used as a C4 charge? As in, you place it somewhere, run away and can then detonate it.

2) If yes, can you stick said charge into a tiny construct, like a rat. Or, better yet, a flying one. Like a flying rat.

3) If you take a character who's immune to poison and pour a bucket of poison over them, would they do poison damage when they grapple? If no, does it work with just the fists? Cause, technically those count as a weapon if you've got a monk.

4) Is there some sort of guide or manual on making constructs? Cause the d20 stuff isn't being too helpful, it just mentions stuff like how hard a golem can hit. Doesn't mention if I can put a backpack on it or not and have it carry all my shit, cause my character's a wimp, but has to carry an assload of crafting equipment and materials.

>>53472474
1. Explosive Runes. If someone reads them, they explode for 6d6 force damage- which nobody can resist.

2. You can place explosive runes on a book or something people read. Attach a scroll to El Rato. Or a Harpy, those are just flying rats, right?

3. Probably.

4. Can't help you there, sorry.

>>53472474
Poison generally doesn't come in buckets, and pouring one over anyone is a big waste of money and resources since it would mostly just run off you like water. In short, it's a bad idea.

Preexisting constructs usually have crafting rules, and can be made with Craft Construct as usual. Homebrewed contructs would have to be designed between you and the GM. You can most likely put a backpack or saddlebags on anything strong enough that isn't incorporeal.

>>53472474
Also, if you just want somewhere to stick your materials, Handy Haversack/Bags of Holding and/or carry weight increasers like Muleback Cords/Heavyload Belt would do the trick on a weakling.

>>53472471
Thicc vampire countess who has enthralled a husky Paladin into her service as a blood cow and guardian, Crimson Countess Harbinger and/or Beguiler is a must, possibly summoner too.

Paladin would Fall within three sessions, so maybe suggest he's an Ordained Defender or Zealot instead.

>>53472500
Define "read". Is it enough to look at them or do they have to actually read the whole thing? Basically, would the NPC go

"What's that sound? Oh, a rat. And it has something on it's ba-BOOM!"
or
"What's that sound? Oh, a rat. And it has something on it's back. Looks like a rune. I wonder what it says...........BOOM!"

>>53472508
I'm building my monk around intimidation. The bucket of poison is more for fear factor than anything. You know, just fucking pulls out a keg, bashes the top open with his fist, pours it over himself and goes "COME AT ME 'YE WEE SHITS!"

>>53472559
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/monk/archetypes/paizo-monk-archetypes/black-asp-monk-archetype/

>>53472544
>so maybe suggest he's an Ordained Defender
>suggesting the bane of unique charop that is OD/ZS

This is horrid advice.

>>53472474
>If you take a character who's immune to poison and pour a bucket of poison over them, would they do poison damage when they grapple? If no, does it work with just the fists? Cause, technically those count as a weapon if you've got a monk.
Not in most cases and no. There's four types of poison: Ingested, Inhaled, Injury, and Contact. Out of all of those, only contact would work if you apply it to a creature's skin, and not every poison is contact.

As for the second, you'd need to take Adder Strike for that.

For the first two questions, play an Alchemist with the Syringe Stirge discovery.

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Hello /pfg/

Quick question: is it possible, through a feat or otherwise, to change your active element as a move action instead of as a standard action?

>>53472559
They have to be able to actually read it, but writing the letter 'A' on it is theoretically enough. You can also use this neat trick - at level 5 you and your familiar gain a special language just for yourself. Your familiar is automatically literate in this language due to how literacy is worded for languages you know (everyone except Barbarians). Write the rune beforehand on something like a small rock, toss the rock and have your familiar read the rock from your shoulder, instant grenade.

>>53472604
Elemental Flux style lets you change it once a round for free

>>53472559
The idea is they look at the rato, open the scroll, read one bit of it and then blow up. Just looking at the closed scroll isn't enough.

>>53472595
Zealot, than, Discordant Crusader!

>>53472569
Neat, but not quite what I'm going for, cause it doesn't fit with his character. Short version of the story
>Used to be a town guard with his wife
>Together for decades
>Finally retire
>Decide to go to a less shit mountainholme
>Sell everything and head off
>Get attacked by bandits
>Wife is kill, dorf is nearly dead
>Crawls his ass to a nearby monastary, where they patch him up
>No money, no home, no wife, no reason to live, FUCKING PISSED
>Becomes a monk to try and deal with loss and find inner peace
>Has 5 fucking intelligence
>Comes to the very logical conclusion that inner peace will come by beating to death every single bad person he can find
>Definition of "bad person" is basically "anyone who looks at me funny"

Basically, It's a rampaging silverback gorilla with a drinking problem and an intense desire to murder people. He doesn't have the mental capacity for underhanded tactics or any form of diplomacy other than getting his way, cause he scares the everloving FUCK out of people.

Since my borderline retarded dwarf can only level up a single skill, I decided to go with intimidation, cause it fits with the theme.

>>53471910
There's a trait that let's you count as a different type for the benefits and downsides of spells and feats. It's in the same source iirc

>>53472612
Thanks!

>>53472649
Monks have to be lawful anon...

Maybe make them a brawler?

>>53472663
He IS lawful - lawful evil. The way I understand it, lawful means you follow a set of rules and dogmas, neutral means you do whatever benefits you and chaotic means you do whatever you feel like. His goal is to systematically murder anyone who looks like they could be a bad person, it's not random violence and he's not doing it for his own gain. I'd say it fits well enough.

>>53472663
>>53472696
Imagine it like this: He has a VERY strong moral compass. It just doesn't point north.

Can you Quicken a spell and then cast another spell? If not what's the point of quickened spells?

>>53472696
>>53472703
It's still only five minutes from murderhobo, and that's not a good character.

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>>53472435
>They're pretty nice! I just need to find art...

Chosen One of Lymnieris wouldn't be that tough, she'd just be a heavily-armored or unarmored woman with a lovely - albeit not entirely sexual - appearance.

>>53472738
There are apps that get accepted into games here that are 5 minutes from murderhobo. It's not fatal.

>>53472737
Quicken Spell makes casting it a swift action. As long as you're not casting a spell with longer cast time than a Full-round action, you can cast a Quickened spell and another spell. Summon Monster spells don't work, however.

>>53472751
So can I Quickened Grease -> Fireball for example

>>53472750
Of course it's not fatal, it's pathfinder.
>>53472762
Yes, that's the entire point of it. Though Quickened Fireball->Maximized Fireball is the more common application.

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>>53472435
>>53472748

Hey, so I don't drown the thread in pictures, could you tell me which of the Fangwood concepts intrigue you the most, and the general body-type (maybe hair color?) of the woman you had in mind? I probably have it about here, somewhere.

>>53472738
There's more depth and nuance to it, I just don't feel like writing a fucking novel explaining his motivation or how his wife appeared in the clouds Lion King style and went "The fok yer doin' in this faggy church? AVENGE ME, YA DAFT CUNT!".

He's on a crusade of righteousness and glory in memory of his loving wife. He just happens to also be very, very stupid, angry and slightly drunk. As far as he's concerned, he's being a fucking hero.

>>53472772
why not Quickened Maximized Fireball

>>53472776
Then it's less of a detriment, I suppose. Personally, I'm just never ever drawn to play stupid characters - if nothing else because I like my skill points.

>>53472788
Because at the point you have enough spell levels or rods to cast that, you have better things to do with your time.

Usually.

>>53472774
Red-Haired Chosen One of Lymnieris

>>53472789
Yeah, I was kind of torn between this and a 3 cha character who communicates through grunting and drooling. In the end, I decided being able to actually form coherent sentences is more important than skills.

>>53472772
Thanks, I read on some forum that you couldn't for some reason

>>53472803
Why are you tanking your scores so much? Bad rolls?

>>53472807
No problem, now you've just read on some imageboard that you can. :^)

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>>53472800
I've got three!

>>53472814
Yup. Rolled 3 1s and a 3. Considered rerolling, but I decided it'd be too fun to not use them. Plus, the rest of the stats I got were pretty nice.

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>>53472800
>>53472825

>>53472823
I like the imageboard better :^)

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>>53472825
>>53472832

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>>53472825
>>53472832
>>53472841
Thanks!

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>>53472855
Surprise Barbarian Bonus Round!

Alright level with me /pfg/

Is there any hope of overcoming the force of meme players?

>>53473041
Why contain it?

>>53473041
Yes

Stop talking about them. Stop living in insane alternate realities where you assume the absolute worst possible motivations out of people and portray them as stains on the face of humanity.

And then app with a healslut cockpolisher

>>53473084
>Healsluts

Imagine being so useless that you can be replaced with a wand of infernal healing.

>>53473084
I want to play a healslut cockpolisher trap

>>53473110
>>53473110
Oh hi Vult

>>53473117
What, Vult's doing that too? Damn, I guess I'll have to add some more words to the end of that. Foxboy perhaps?

>>53473084
Healers are pure, stop defiling them

>>53473110
Is it just me, or does it feel like the "subversion" of a healslut or slut in general is more common than the stereotype itself?

It's always "pure sluts" this or "slut who's actually a trap" that, where's the honest to goodness whores that heal with touch and tongue?

>>53473127
Vult's first app was a kitsune trap healslut. Got accepted, then bamboozled./spoiler]

Probably a dumb question but what action would it be for a creature to use Change Shape monster ability?

>>53473141
Playing as an actual whore feels about as degrading as you would imagine so unless you're Wist you don't want to do that.

>>53473146
standard

>>53473143
For real? Uh, how about adding cyborg to that too?

>Not whipping your allies back to health as a Healdom

AHH

>>53473188
>Not healing your allies through the power of your lute playing

>>53473188
How does that work though? Is there a Magus that gets cure spells?

>>53473226
In the viviomancer's handbook for spheres there's a talent that lets you deliver a life sphere ability through a weapon

Whips are ideal for this because 1. They have a 15ft reach, and 2. you can deal nonlethal damage which will instantly be negated by the heal as if it never happened.

>>53473226
Clearly you just need tentacles.

>>53473279
I remember that character, she was from the Age before Ages, before the Vult was Deus and RotJR was but a speckle in our General's eye.

Why am I such a piece of shit, why can't I write good like literally everyone else in the party.

>>53473365
Your lack of confidence in yourself

>>53473365
>>53473369
Believe in me, who believes in you!

How do I find a game? My group just exploded in fiery shards and I've never played with anyone else during my 4 years of playing

>>53473369
I don't have confidence because my teammates write this excellent prose in 4 minutes flat and I can scarcely scrabble out an equally sized yet equally clumsy post in twice that.

>>53470962
Yes.
It's Final Fantasy, so it's most likely magic.

>>53473437
thats probably because you agonize over it.

>>53472343
>Myth-weavers tier character stealing
How is that "Good"?

>>53473466
You get to play your character when/if they appear, its not honeypot character stealing.

>>53473041
You bet! Just don't apply to any games that they're in.

Are Cavaliers trash? I wanted to submit a horse riding knight who would eventually upgrade to riding a lion.

>>53473508
Pure trash

>>53473481
Again: You get to play the character as an NPC that shows up, maybe once or twice. That isn't good. Or are you telling me that ending up like 2hu is a good idea?

https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/47701250/#47707054

If he has any sense he'll stop that stupid idea.

>>53473508
They're trash in games that don't specifically take place in areas that having a mount would be viable in. So, yeah they're utter trash in 90% of the games.

Unless you're a halfling riding a wolf and thus can go literally anywhere.

>>53473531
If you don't want to have your character used, just tell the GM that.

>>53473437
Play voice games.

>>53473508
Go Hussar Warlord instead.

>>53473553
Man, so I guess I shouldn't app a Cavalier for Ensoulment. No courtly romance here, then.

>>53473558
>literally defending myth-weavers tier character stealing
What happened to /pfg/?

>>53473572
>Its completely optional and you can say no, thus making it not mythweaver's tier character stealing.

I don't think its a great idea, but lets not compare this to a honeypot game

>>53473580
It's close enough, and the fact that you're lowering your standards because somebody vaguely associated with this general is pushing it is hilarious.

>>53473572
>>53473580
Also, the DM won't use the character and the player will get a guest invite instead.
Plus, it's unlikely to be a complete bamboozle instead.

>>53473571
If you're married to the concept of Cavalier, take Disciple of the Pike or Daring Champion

>>53473600
?

Look its just not the same even if I think its a bad idea.

>>53473623
>Getting to "play" your character as an NPC in a single scene
It's exactly the same.

>>53473636
Then say 'you can't use my character if I don't get in'

Wow problem solved so complex.

How do get get less trash at making apps? My ensoulment app is crap compared to others.

>>53473646
So you disagree with the old /pfg/ userbase who told 2hu that that offer was really insulting?

>>53473256
Wouldn't be easier to take ranged heal?

And I'm pretty sure that talent is supposed to go with the life talents that do damage. It doesn't actually say that though....

>>53473659
Even Batman?

>>53473662
Its a different situation entirely because the notion of it is known going in, if you feel insulted by it you can just say 'no, don't use my character'

>>53473666
I mean sure thats 'easier' but that way you can't whip your allies and healdom them.

>>53473678
>told upfront your character will be taken if you don't get in
That happens with a lot of games. Are you saying that's okay for /pfg/ too?

>>53473659
Whats your app I'll give you some quick critique.

>>53473689
THATS NOT WHAT HE'S SAYING, ITS IF YOU WANT TO PLAY YOUR CHARACTER AS AN NPC IN LIKE ONE SESSION, YOU CAN, IF YOU DON'T, YOUR CHARACTER WON'T BE USED AT ALL.

FUCKING HELL DUDE

>>53473705
I didn't say that, don't twist my words around. You're trying to excuse this blatant NPC-mining by saying he's upfront about it. I repeat: If he said upfront that characters would be taken as NPCs and you wouldn't get to play them at all, would you find that acceptable because he was upfront about it? It happens in other games.

>>53473739
But thats not what he said!?! You're twisting the fucking GM's words. He didn't say your character will be taken as an NPC if you don't get in, he said your character will be taken as an NPC IF YOU WANT THEM TO BE if you don't get in.

ITS VOLUNTARY.

AND THAT MY FRIEND WOULD BE THE KEY DIFFERENCE

>>53473766
I repeat: I'm not saying that's what he said. Turn off the caps lock and think for once.
I'm saying that "You get to play your character as an NPC for one scene" is equally as degrading, if not moreso, than "Your character will be taken as an NPC and you won't get to play them at all".

>>53473787
THEN SAY THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT IF YOU FIND IT DEGRADING

STOP BEING A DISINGENUOUS TWAT.

>>53473794
>Turn off the caps lock and think for once.
Read it again.

>>53473814
except that's not the fucking deal, so you need to fuck off with your bullshit assertions.

This hypothetical retardation needs to fuck off.

>>53473832
It explicitly is. It being "voluntary" or not changes nothing.

>hypothetical
You're excusing it on the basis of it being voluntary, which is the exact same situation as what happened with 2hu. I find that deplorable.

>>53473691
It's Ortzi/Lucius. admittedly since I did it in a first person pov, his backstory is not even in the app and I don't really know of a way to show it without it looking shoved in

>>53473847
But it being voluntary and upfront is a huge difference from the 2hu situation

False equivalence.

>>53473871
Nope. Try again.

>>53473849
I'd say his motivations need to be fleshed out, just from reading over the character I don't have any idea of what drives him, what would make him join the ensoulment project

Basically what drives Ortzi? He just seems to be a dude, barely even a merc.

>>53473893
Sick argument bro

>>53473914
>it's okay because it's voluntary and you knew what you were getting when you signed up for it
That's your entire argument.

>>53473923
Yes, its called 'consent'

Its the difference between rape and sex, surely you can understand that.

>Come into the thread to talk about the game
>Two people sperging out over semantics about a roll20 game
Such is life in /pfg/.

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>running multiple games for months
>starting to get fatigued, want to try being a PC again
>players won't ever step up to GM anything
>check recruitment threads, forums, even roll20
>all terrible; either the players look awful or the concept is bad or the DM is a weirdo

Fuck it. I'll just start *another* game.

>>53473462
How do I stop agonizing over my writing?

>>53473565

>play the worst kind of game

>>53473945
well the first thing is that the rest of your party probably doesn't care.

>>53473934
>implying we talk about the game

>>53470847
Alrighty /pfg/,

Nerf Casters and adjust every enemy to account for weaker Casters or buff Martials?

>>53473937
You could apply to one of the /pfg/ games. Although those probably fall under "DM is a weirdo".

>>53473937
What kinda campaign you want, fampai?

>>53473955
Voiced games are not only the best kind of game, they're the standard.

The only reason /pfg/ hates them is because they can't play their huge-chested cucksluts with their deep-ass voice.

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>>53473937
>Want to play games
>End up running them

>Want to play starfinder, introduce it to the group and point out that it's coming out in a few months
>Will probably end up running it

>>53473971
use spheres of power

>>53473932
Like I said, it's the exact same as having your character mined. It's not okay even then.

>>53474006
No, because getting your character mined would be rape, while this is sex.

>>53473981
Anon, Starfinder is shit. A level 1 Soldier is basically an NPC warrior until level 3.

>>53474019
Alright. Go apply to all those roll20/mythweavers games that say they'll take your character, since you consented to it that makes it okay.

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>>53473981
>Want to run a game
>Spend a lot of time building the setting and maps for the world.
>Get a group of players together, and all their characters built.
>Come game day, only one shows up.

>>53474025
>Starfinder
>LASER GUNS ARE WORSE THAN A FUCKING IRON PIPE.

>>53473972

I checked out all of those, the sad part is I run games on those days at around those times. Most of the premises looked promising.. not sure I want to compete against the entirety of pfg to get in though. And I'm guessing they'll end up with huge 6+ person parties too which just isn't my style.

>>53473974

To be perfectly honest? I've been wanting something more classical for awhile. The quaint farmboy who takes up his father's sword, that sort of feel. A campaign similar to Record of the Loddoss War would be amazing.

I've been in and running a multiverse campaign and a couple of the odder Paizo APs. I've also run a lot of Exalted and Scion games in the past so I'm a little burned out on the over the top 'forge nations, bend the destiny of the world to your will from Day 0'.

>>53474019
Popular opinion says sex can still be rape after the sex happens.

If the player finishes RPing their character and decides they didn't want to RP their character, the DM is an asshole.

>>53474033
See, but I don't want to. So I don't

SEE HOW THAT WORKS!?!

>>53474036

Are you serious m8? I haven't looked at any of the stats leaked..

>>53474054
YUP.

>>53474035

I had the exact opposite problem. Constantly changing things about my game world, and players all showed up with high expectations.

>>53474025
It could be shit, but that doesn't deter me from wanting to try. I've already played Pathfinder

>>53474045
So you ARE saying that's okay.

>>53474045
Dude, just stop, he is trolling you. Ignore him and whatever baiting comment he replies to this with. Youve been arguing against circular logic and "umads" for half the thread, this isnt going anywhere and he is clearly just getting a laugh out of you not seeing it.

>>53474092
You're probably right, this guy is just a retard

>>53474092
>>53474096
Glad to see you found your phone.

>>53474106
>This salted

>>53473904
Love mostly , though there are lesser reasons in addition to that which drive him. the letter sent to the princess, save for the place of his birth and his current occupation was mostly false. Lote was where he met his first and only love and it was at the foot of the nearby azure mountains where he lost her almost a decade ago. The reality is that he want to simply protect the one place he remembers being happy, but he is also aware that telling a story of lost loves to an innocent child is not exactly something that will convince her that she needs him as her champion.

>>53474128
I'm not the one who exploded into a flurry of caps lock and denial about what he was supporting. But okay, believe what you will.

>>53474143
I guess like I don't see any of that in the app, I don't see who Ortzi is for any of their philosophy, and you need to fold that in.

>>53474163
That's the problem I'm having, I have no idea how to show it without it coming off as ham-fisted

>>53474202
Maybe try a first person narration, like Broodie did?

>>53474038
I've got a player who'd be interested in the exact same things. Since I want to try out Pathfinder, what AP would you recommend?

>>53474214

Giantslayer and Ironfang Invasion aren't bad for this, though Giantslayer might have some awful TPK potential in some fights.

Rise of the Runelords is a very quintessential adventure that covers a lot of bases. My only warning with that one is it, above all the other APs i've noticed besides the Mummy's Mask, is built on the idea that you WILL have a Cleric, Wizard and Rogue/skill monkey with disable device to get through it. Fighter is always optional, I'd suggest a Paladin though for better over-all utility and helping with the large amount of undead and evil outsiders spread throughout the AP.

>>53474255

Forgot to add, a heavily optimzied Monk could be useful vs all the spellcasters in RotRL. Especially a Zen Archer Qinggong one. Resist all their spells and then stun lock them to death. But that in general could ruin the campaign so.. maybe not. Paladin is a good alternative choice there.

Guys, has your DM ever intentionally tried to fuck your character over with either plot or potential death, but the moment it starts to happen they seem to realize how fucking awful that plan was, but you're so invested with rage and RP potential you gleefully follow through with it just so everyone else in the group can see how much of a shit deal you got?

Because that happened last night.

>>53474205
I'll try that. Thanks dude.

>>53474072
I tend to "finish" my world building before I recruit players for a game.

But that just makes it hurt even more.

>>53474482
I didn't even get the chance to finish planning- The players are starting in a vague, frontier area not-Varisia And I've been unable to brainstorm anything else up

>>53474521
Random tables are your friend.

>>53474521
Not-Varisia is kind of shit, you should've gone with a Not!France.

I find it funny that so many people want to waifu Kobolds when they're typically hermaphrodites in the lore.

>>53474602
You say that like people here would care.

These fags would waifu a man if he was cute enough.

>>53474602
the dick only makes it better!

>>53474602
nigga like that's stopped people from waifuing things
t. Tiefling player

>>53474624
Don't you have a Witch to breed, Kyras?

>>53474622
The only dick I want to see is my own, futa and sexualized hermaphroditism is literally closeted homosexuality.

>>53474657
Dunno, does Kyra's have fluffy tail and #83?

>>53474698
male on female is 50% gay since you're watching a dude

Futa on female is only 25% gay, because one member is half male half female

Female on female seems like it would be 0% gay, but it loops back around to 100% homosexual.

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Building a gunner, got any tips on extending my first range increment?

>>53474721
But anon, what if I am the dude?!

>>53474725
Nobunaga was a mistake.

>>53474699
Does he have a tail? I think he has a tail.

>>53474730
Futa on male is 75% gay, which is still pretty gay, but not 100% gay.

>>53474725
Why not just move towards the person? Not like you're missing out on a full attack.

>>53474770
I thought Mystic was supposed to make that better?

>>53474721
>>53474758
How do we reach 0% gay? Girl flicking the bean?

>>53474791
I'm sorry anon, there's no way to reach 0% gay, because the girl is still fucking herself, which is girl on girl and thus gay.

The closest we can get in futa on female.

>>53474791
By having consensual sex in the missionary position

>>53474791
0% Gay would be you actually fucking a girl in person, but that cannot be achieved by porn

>>53474791
solo girl is the viewer pretending to be the girl, which is gay.

>>53474812
He's right you know

>/pfg/
>Porn Faggotry General

>>53474847
I miss plant fucking general

>>53474853
>Pet Fuckers General
>Pretty Fags General

>>53474847
When will we get Paladin Fisting General?

>>53474917
Just before we get Paladins Falling General.

What traits besides fate's favored des an inquisitor want?

>>53472373
I want a quick review of Alexander

>>53474932
Antipaladin Gloriana when?

>>53475141
That's basically what she was when taking the knot

>>53474624
I wanna waifu a grumpy, murderous, antisocial tiefling hermaphrodite girl with a flat chest!

So if I wanted tge new cultural paradigm eatablished by Lote to feature a cute maid in every home that can support her, would it be better to play a cute maid or to have cute maid cohorts?

>>53475253
It'd be better to somehow optimize yourself into having a Dominate Person and Dominate the princess into being your cute maid.

>>53475253
Its cute and I think its pretty good.

>>53475037
sorry
>>53475310
was a response to you

>>53475219
That is extremely specific, Anon. But would you hug her and dote on her when she's weak after coming off a drug-induced high?

>>53475253
YOU CAN'T JUST PUT MAIDS INTO EVERYTHING

>>53475037
Is he the brother of Felix?

>>53475253
You should make a cute maid custom-crafted for every meme character.

>>53475354
Why not?

I mean, what else is a soiled, parentless, woman going to do to earn a living?

>>53475408
Nope, he's the dude with the magic psychic sword he found at the bottom of a puddle, the two letters (one from him, the other from his sword), and character art I really need to replace.

>>53475424

Carpentry, masonry, culinarian arts, agriculture, animal husbandry, weaving, candle making.. the list goes on and on.

>>53475424
Murder.

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>>53475441

>>53475424
End investment banking

>>53475441
>reasonable answer

>>53475494
>Ending the thing that is keeping the USD worth anything in the international economy

>>53475596
The thing that keeps the USD worth anything in the international economy is its status as global reserve currency and the US going to town on anyone's ass who dares try and break off onto an actually neutral standard like gold or even a basket.

>>53475596
And this is a problem because?

>>53475596
Have you considered that not everyone is American?

>>53475666
Satan is BASED non-burger confirmed.

>>53474602
Do you have a single source to back that up

Generally curious

>>53475666
>Satan
>Not an American
Seems about right

>>53475412
>Having sex with a woman on drugs

That's rape, anon.

>Broodie's cat is now used goods

Fucking ruined.

>>53475709
Inner Sea Races confirms Kobolds have high rates of hermaphroditism which also gives the he/she draconic qualities, meaning non-binary Kobolds are quite literally worshiped in their society.

Also, Changelings oftentimes have penises because Crystal Frazier insisted, which is funny because it means Casimir's dead wife had a dick.

>>53475773
>cat
nothing of value was lost desu

>>53475773
She was a shitty cat, that changes literally nothing. If anything it improved her

How many rounds does normal combat take?

>Homebrewing a support class
>First turns are set up, hitting enemies with built in save-or-suck
>Once all enemies have been tagged, and if they haven't saved on their turns, they're then CCing the whole field while casting like a Hunter

Part of me is going "Oh wow, this is going to be a bunch of damage and bullshit while ALSO casting" but the other part is going "yeah but they're doing piss all for the first three or four rounds"

>>53475773
Oh my god who the hell cares? Why do so many people here take issue with the fact a woman's savored some dick before yours?

You shouldn't be worried she's had sex, you should only be worried she still hasn't gotten over her ex-lover, that's the part you need to work through.

>>53475727
But what if she's the one who initiates it in a show of dominance?

>>53475320
Thanks anon! I kinda wanna improve it, so that I can make Alex and the Empress a household name!

>>53475871
My girlfriend sucked 37 dicks

>>53475354
THATS WHAT THEY ALL SAY, ONE DAY SOME HERO WILL SHOW THEM THEYRE ALL WRONG!!!
>>53475297
Whats even the best mindcontrol you can get at level 3? Probably Eliciter?

>>53475870
3-6, usually 4. This is why damage over time like bleed is bad, and why most debuffs are often worse than straight damage.

>>53475886
In a row?!

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>>53475775
But the kobold book says otherwise, just that non-kobolds can't tell.

And can we get a screenshot of the changeling thing?

>>53475871
Slut-enablers please go.

>>53475871
t. chad hi vult

>>53475904
hey try not to suck any dick on your way through the parking lot!

>>53475870
Sounds like garbage to be honest

>>53475908
The Changeling thing was going to be canon until one of the developers yelled at Crystal Frazier to quit doing her freaky sex thing.

>>53475911
80% of the /pfg/ waifus would be sluts.

>>53475862
Honestly she makes a lot more sense as a character now, even if she is used goods.

>>53475871
I unironically love sluts so it doesnt matter to me my dude

>>53475551
>>53475486

Even from an autistic game rules point of view, Profession (Maid) doesn't do or make anything useful. Your income will be terrible. The above can at least involve using Craft to produce goods, and then potentially sell it at absurd prices with some good social skill rolls because you are a brand name. Sort of like Apple.

This is why you don't dump Int OR Cha. Put those titties and those brains to work, ladies!

>>53475997
>your income will be terrible
Wrong. Manservants were a really good place to be if you served someone high class, and generally only the high class could afford them anyway. It's not like people kicked women into the maid school, no it's because a maid to the tycoon is a relatively good job.

>>53475946
>>53475946
Depends on how good the debuffs are

>>53475976
I still dont know how she will progess as a character though, her narrative seems completelt frontloaded and after starting the ensoulment project and saying "my dead boyfriend was a great guy" shes just going to basically be a token edgy ninja for the party. Like, after accomplishing great things, learning more about the world, and getting caught up in epic dramas, shes still just going to be going "my dead boyfriend was so great, Im not, please respect his memory". It isnt something that can really go anywhere, I dont think.

>>53476031

I'm speaking strictly from PF rules.

>>53475954
That's both hilarious and mildly reassuring that at the very least, someone drew a line somewhere once.

>>53476040
Is there even a canonical income for Profession (Maid)?

>>53475976
She sounds 'done' though, if that makes sense, and in party she's going to be chasing her boyfriend's shadow Cornelia is going to be so fucking mad the one thing you never do as a Superman is chase someone's memory

>>53476060

Not that I am aware of. Just whatever the default Profession rules give. This is why having a Profession that works off of Craft is vastly superior if you're trying to make money by RAW.

Ignoring RAW, the other best way is to cheese Diplomacy and take Charm/Dominate, go around looking for wealthy types who don't have Mindblank or other anti-magic or magic detection readily on hand, and grease the wheels until they give you their fortunes.

>>53475997
Profession (Maid) makes the same amount as any other Profession skill, assuming the same modifiers and rolls. You could have Profession (fa/tg/uy) and make money for all the game cares.

>>53475972
Did I say I liked them?

>>53476088
>She sounds 'done' though,
It makes sense given her inspiration.
Yuri was basically a "done" character in ToV.

>>53476039
>>53476088
I'm not sure that being 'done' is a bad thing.

>>53476117
It's not really bad so to speak but it essentially makes you a blank slate. Book I is over, Book II is an unrelated series using the same character.

>>53475991
Just don't be that idiot who falls in love with her, or god forbid tries to marry the slut.

Who are the best marriageable characters among the memes, anyway?

>>53476117
I don't think it is either, though it can get boring in game sometimes. It's somewhat refreshing to have a character that is very set in their philosophy. It gives them the chance to influence the world instead of the world influencing them.

Wist's app is hiding a LOT of shit from the Princess, she doesn't even mention something as basic as being FUCKING DEAF

>>53476144
Realistically for Ensoulment a character that is 'done' is probably better, since it is about influencing the world

>>53476150
And hiding the fact that the rintanet is unethical as hell

>>53476140
Male side? In order:
>Casimir, Etan, Rory if you tamed him and got him to wear a collar.

Female side? In order
>Onryou

fuck that's the only one

>>53476040
You're still living large, anon.

You're making a skilled craftsman's income with literally zero expenditures, since you live with your master at the estate.

This is like making 50k a year while living with parents who pay for everything, even your food.

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>>53476166
INDIVIDUALISM IS THE PATH TO PROSPERITY

BE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOURSELF THEN YOUR FAMILY THEN YOUR COUNTRY

FIGHT FOR YOUR OWN DREAMS

>whole party enters a knife-throwing contest during a festival
>both the cleric and the barbarian win
>the party member who actually fights by throwing knives doesn't.

It was hilarious, but again shows how broken the d20 system is.

>>53476166
Since she doesn't see it as unethical I don't see this as a problem to 'hide', it's like someone hiding 'my son is ugly' when the mom legit thinks he's pretty good-looking.

>>53476088
Cornelia needs a dick before she gets too crazy with the Superman thing.

>>53476150
Somehow this post made me want to make a Maple Plantgirl who's a FUCKING LEAF.

>>53476186
>doesn't see it as unethical
So they're morally bankrupt?

>>53476167
People still talk about Onryou? Wasn't she a RotJR character?

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>>53476196
Soon, brothers.

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>>53476190
GOD IS DEAD AND WE HAVE KILLED HIM

>>53476198
Moral debates are not particularly meaningful here so stop trying to pursue it. As far as Rinta can tell she sees it as the Internet - open for abuse via shit like the hack last month, but not bad in and of itself.

>>53476184
[angry ancap noises]

>>53476190
>Wizard is not a Superman
Who's superman if not a Wizard with the UNLIMITED P O W E R cantrip?

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>>53476184

I WANNA BE A HERO LIKE IN THEM OLD STORIES!

SAVIN' PRINCESSES

FIGHTIN' DRAGONS

ALL FOR THE CAUSE O' MY FAMILY!

>>53476221
Moral debates are never meaningful.

And it's unethical because it forces people to mind-skype and lose their privacy or be left behind as second class citizens.

>>53476208
Yeah, she's been kind of low-key since the embargo.

Has she married Seht yet? Have Casimir and Valeriya declared their love? Has Corwin gone on a date with Ameiko?

>>53476180

>implying maids didn't have tons of work to do and their own pecking orders and hierarchies to navigate

lol

What are some flavorful feats for a "smart" sorta PC? Something like Brilliant Planner.

>>53476180

What a charmed life you must live.

Crafting > Profession when it comes to making money. Period.

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>>53476184
>>53476245
You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.

>>53476221
Did I ever post her head-only pic how did you even get this

>>53476267
That just makes it even better, I want to be the saucy bed-maid of the master's eldest son!

>>53476262
No idea

>>53476291
Sheet.

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>>53476167
Those are a whole lotta implications you got there buddy

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>the self shilling out in full force

>>53476295

A pathetic NEET like you wouldn't even make it past the first week. The world of maids is one of cutthroat inter-social politics, both with the family you serve and the other maids. Word travels fast too. Soon as the head maid(s) know about your lusty little ambitious your ass will get tossed onto the nearest street corner, homeless AND poor.

Might as well prostitute yourself if you're going to be such a useless slut.

>>53476329
Calm the fuck down Kobayashi

>>53476325
>Etan marrying Rory in a big gay crossover

what is your sick mind up to now