Can you name a single elf originating from an anime, JRPG, or

Can you name a single elf originating from a western cartoon, RPG, or other Western fantasy medium, who isn't a pointy eared tree hugger?

Can you name a single dwarf from the same, who isn't either a bearded old guy or a "honorable warrior and totally friendly on downtime" man?

>>53442813
>Can you name a single elf originating from a western cartoon, RPG, or other Western fantasy medium, who isn't a pointy eared tree hugger?
Elrond.
>Can you name a single dwarf from the same, who isn't either a bearded old guy or a "honorable warrior and totally friendly on downtime" man?
Fili and Kili.

Your turn.

>>53442813
Marcille and that one dwarf lady whose name escapes me. Dungeon Meshi.

>>53442877
>Marcille isn't adorable

Take that back.

>>53442904
Marcille is legitimately adorable via her actions and expressions. She doesn't have to resort to being a moeblob. She's cute on her own.

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>>53442813
Riveria is a stoic elf mage. The dwarves of the same setting are just standard dwarves.

>>53442813
>Can you name a single elf originating from an anime, JRPG, or other Japanese fantasy medium, who isn't an adorable moe girl?
Arioch

>Can you name a single dwarf from the same, who isn't either a bearded old guy or an "actually adult and therefore totally legal" loli?
Senshi
Yes he's bearded and knowledgeable, but he's not much of the grumpy old stereotype

>>53442813

I never noticed the squirrel playing the PSP before now.

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>>53442813
Can you, OP, make a single post that isn't bitching about anime of fucking 4chan or otherwise a shitpost in some way, shape, or form?

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>>53442813
Can you name a single elf who wouldn't be improved by being an adorable moe girl?

>>53442995
Senshi is almost cheating. Kui Ryoko is like some brilliant gem in the otherwise generic mire of Japanese Manga writing.

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>>53442813
This nigga right here. Elves done right.

>>53443116
>i have read only one manga

>>53443125
Nigga that's a fey

>>53442813
You're aware that anime are literally cartoons for children, right? Have you tried playing with people who are mentally over the age 14? Or are you going to keep bitching because something made for children is all cutesy and cartoony.

Give me back the 20 seconds of my life I took to type this and call you a faggot, faggot.

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>>53442813
Hello OP
Though I agree that most japanese elves are shit

>>53443199
0/10.

>>53443108
Pirotess

>>53442847
Retribution from warmachine
>high tech isolation
>gas the humans species war now

>>53442813
>Can you name a single elf originating from an anime, JRPG, or other Japanese fantasy medium, who isn't an adorable moe girl?
Maryelle, Londark, William Massachusetts, KR, Elias Hackblade, Ri Gan (all from Log Horizon)

>Can you name a single dwarf from the same, who isn't either a bearded old guy or an "actually adult and therefore totally legal" loli?
Tatara, Woodstock W (also from Log Horizon)

>>53443263
Those are humans though.

>>53443278
No, they're not.

>>53443289
They're literally human beings playing a videogame.

>>53442813
I liked /tg/better when we had quest threads on /tg/ instead of complaining-about-anime threads on /tg/.

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>>53442813
Elf: The dark elf king Astos in Final Fantasy 1

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>>53443217
>DON'T YOU DARE CALL MY CARTOONS CARTOONS! THEY'RE FOR MATURE SOPHISTICATED ADULTS SUCH AS MYSELF!

OK, kid.

>>53442813
Prince Sigurð Sveinnsson Svarthæð

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Is this some thinly veiled rec thread?

>>53442847
>Can you name a single elf originating from a western cartoon, RPG, or other Western fantasy medium, who isn't a pointy eared tree hugger?

The entire Night Elf race. TES subraces. Drow.

>Can you name a single dwarf from the same, who isn't either a bearded old guy or a "honorable warrior and totally friendly on downtime" man?

Korgan Bloodaxe. Kagain. Many Dragon Age NPCs, for some reason, except, of course, Oghren.

>>53442813
Nero and Arioche

But Drakengard characters are probably cheating, I guess.

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>>53442813
> Can you name a single elf originating from an anime, JRPG, or other Japanese fantasy medium, who isn't an adorable moe girl?
Link from LoZ.

>>53443335
Not as of the start of the story.
They are biologically Elves/Dwarves.

>>53442813
Link.

>>53443681
The videogame is still a videogame.
They still have access to the game menus and everything.

More importantly they are neither culturally nor mentally abhuman.
They are modern day average human beings trapped in a videogame.

Any differences from fantasy stereotype are not because the author thought up unique elves, but because the elves aren't elves to begin with.

>>53442813
The Sage of Miral Lake from Log Horizon is a scholarly old man.

>>53443199
Nice b8 m8.

>>53443730
>The videogame is still a videogame.
Not as of the Third World Fraction.

>More importantly they are neither culturally nor mentally abhuman.
Absolutely irrelevant to their physical appearance.

>Any differences from fantasy stereotype are not because the author thought up unique elves, but because the elves aren't elves to begin with.
The elves are elves to begin with. The race has been around since before the First World Fraction, i.e. long before the video game.
Also, Ri Gan is a Lander, not an Adventurer.

>>53443872
>Absolutely irrelevant to their physical appearance.

Their physical appearance is superficial and irrelevant, as they're just videogame avatars played by modern day humans.

>>53443199
> You're aware that anime are literally cartoons for children, right?
That's false, though. Children are not the main target audience of anime.

Manchildren? Maybe.
But calling a Japanese person a manchild is like calling an American fat - it's redundant in the sense that their whole country is mostly like that.

Why do you think escapist fantasies are so popular in Japan? Because people don't want to grow up. Because growing up means living in the shitty post-feudal society that is Japan, where individuality doesn't matter, work ethic is more important than talent and every third person leads a life of a literal wageslave.

So being a manchild is really common there, therefore, manchildren being the target audience of the anime in general isn't something surprising.

>>53443582
Night elves are 100% pointy eared tree huggers

>>53443923
Their physical appearance is the same as the races that existed before the video game.
Intentionally misrepresenting the core conceit of the anime/light novel/JRPG does not lend your argument any validity.

>>53443582
And to add to that, blood elves are one of the few original elf factions to spring up in the last 20 years.

Blood elves are essentially Tolkien elves that fell from grace, and then stabilized and became productive members of society. They learned how to deal with their fel addiction and made friends with orcs trolls Tauren and the undead. Blood elves are like the polar opposite of what a traditional elf faction is.

Night elves are just classic wood elves with purple skin

>>53444047
>>53444139

Did you miss the part where the males are hulksters with tree trunks for arms and where their women are described by Grom Hellscream as the fiercest and most perfect warriors he has ever seen? Where they do not play nice with the people who invade their land and passively take it up the ass like in many other, generic "we are in decline" land, but are straight up feral?

Tree hugging implies pacifism and melancholy and slowness, Night Elves are none of that.

>>53443582
For a better answer to the elf thing, Varis from Fell's Five.

>>53444015
To be fair, in Japan you're also forced to be part of a community. You're forced to go on company holidays and drinking nights with your coworkers (who are often your friends from way back in high school or college), meaning they have on average way more friends than the average American.

I'd rather live in America and especially Europe than in Japan, but it's not all gloom and doom.

>>53444269
Being a tree hugger doesn't mean you have to be a pussy, wood elves aren't pussies in any setting they're in. Night elves are also Fucking huge so yea they would be decent fighters. They still aren't much of an original faction. Take warhammer wood elves and compare them to night elves, the only differences are physical size and religion.

Blood elves on the other hand are your typical fantasy high elf faction flipped upside down and thrown into a foreign environment that they adapted to almost flawlessly. A once noble race joining a tribal confederation and basically restarting their 10000 year old culture to survive

>>53442847
Dark Eldar for elfs
Cacame Awemedinade Monípalóthi

And I raise dwarf fortress for all the dwarf.

>>53444744
>wood elves aren't pussies in any setting they're in.

You wouldn't know it coming to /tg/ because every thread about elves is about them being huge faggots and all the jokes are about their femininity.

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>>53445107
Being a cakeboy and being able to rip people's jaws out are not mutually exclusive.

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>>53442813
The elf and the dwarf at the hot spring town in KonoSuba.

>>53445325
ERIS PADS HER BRA

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>>53443655

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>>53442813
>"actually adult and therefore totally legal" loli
Why would you want anything else?

>>53445406
Homosexuality

>>53444608
>To be fair, in Japan you're also forced to be part of a community
It's not a good thing despite the way you try to put it.
I'd rather have a really small amount of close friends that I truly care about than a bunch of corporate "friends" who are there only for mandatory socializing.

>>53445406
Because it's "too anime". Because as we all know dwarves are not allowed to be dimorphic and dwarf women must have beards.

>>53445364
>t. dumb aqua poster.

I have personally interacted with Eris and I can assure you she does not pad her bras.

>>53445417
>I'd rather have a really small amount of close friends that I truly care about
How many westerners have that luxury? I agree with you that it's better, but many westerners don't have that option. That's an increasing problem for us, more and more (young) people feeling utterly disconnected from society.

>>53442904
This.

>>53445442
>How many westerners have that luxury?
I can't really say, because I live in a post-Soviet country, but for me personally it was only a problem in my late teens, when I still was figuring stuff out.
I've got a few (namely, two - and one of them is my father) truly close friends I can trust with my life, a couple people I can trust with most of my problems (like five or six, maybe ten at most), and then there are all the other people I just have fun talking with.

>more and more (young) people feeling utterly disconnected from society.
And in Japan more and more people are running from life because they are oppressed by the expectations from their society.
I think that having a free choice in your life (even if there's no one to hold your hand) is much better than being forcefully guided into a track that society chooses for you.
To be honest, I'd rather be unhappy as a consequence of my own choices than being forced by someone to be happy.

I recommend watching videorelated for some insight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5dYTLxnq_U

>>53442813
"Adorable"

For idiots like you maybe

>>53443182
>Norse Dark Elves.
>Fey
Pick one.

>>53445583
>And in Japan more and more people are running from life because they are oppressed by the expectations from their society.

Doesn't Japan also have a forest that everyone goes to off themselves?

>>53445628
>Norse Dark Elves
Wrong.

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>>53442813
Stallion. The elf that cares only for going fast.

>>53445664
Aokigahara. Not even that many peole kill themselves in there, many just go there to think.

>>53445664
Imagine how fucked-up your society is that you can't even commit suicide on a whim, because you feel compelled to kill yourself where all the other cool kids kill themselves.

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>>53443228
But she's already adorable and moe.
And like 5'2".

When you use the name of some classic concept in your game or piece of media I want it to work as closely to the norm as possible, if you want to do something new, come up with an original name.

>>53445583
wow that video is completely devoid of any interesting insight or utility, why would you link it? is that your channel?

>>53445870
>elves can't be radiant ancestral demigods because that's not how d&d does it
>dwarves can't be giant-born magical tricksters because that's not how d&d does it

>>53445870
No.

>>53445906
>why would you link it?
Because it gives insight into manchildren's minds by describing everything they are not. Manchildren are people who don't want to confront reality, they are the ones who throw a tantrum and close away into their escapistic safe space until an adult comes over to their cries and solves their issue.
And that's the problem with Japan as I see it. If Japanese people had adult mindset, they would confront reality instead of running away from it.
>is that your channel?
I fucking wish. I'd be bathing in autismbux right now if that was the case.

>>53442813
Legolas.
Gimli.

Jesus Christ.

>>53442847
Glorfindel.
Every single dwarf in Dwarf Fortress.

>>53444015
You just couldn't resist, could you?

>>53446104
The thread was shit in the first place, might as well try and derail it.

>>53446089
Please grind up your Reading Comprehension

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>>53442813
>Can you name a single elf originating from an anime, JRPG, or other Japanese fantasy medium, who isn't an adorable moe girl?
Deedlit, The elves in pic related

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>>53446263
>fat elves

>>53445734
The suicide forest exists so you're not being a burden on those around you. Instead of forcing your family or neighbours to find your body, or causing traffic disruptions by jumping off an overpass you go to the suicide forest and eventually someone who's job it is to pull the corpses out of the forest finds you

>>53446282
>that
>fat

>>53446344
That's exactly my fucking point.
Imagine being so pressured by the society that the first thing you think about when considering suicide is not to bother accidentally anyone with your death.
That's fucked up in so many ways I can't even begin to describe.

>>53445734
Hey now. They also have bridge jumpers.

>>53446351
Yes, pretty fat for an elf.

>>53446379
I don't know. If I were to ever be brought so low as to think about killing myself, I'd probably not want my mother to find me either.

>>53446391
>>53446282
What's it like having no taste, anon?

>>53446379
Well guess I'm fucked up too. Seriously, when all you wanna do is not be a burden on others it makes committing suicide pretty hard. Especially when you're in a nofuns country.

>>53446282
Even on /tg/ you show up.

>>53446414
>>53446448
And that's exactly the problem.
For fuck's sake, if there's one thing you can be selfish about, it's your own fucking death.

>>53446418
Do you feel special for liking elves that only appear in fetish mangas that appeal to a niche audience?

>>53446165
Legolas isn't a moe girl.

Gimli isn't a bearded old guy. He's 139, while Middle Earth dwarves can live to be 250. By his people's standards, Gimli is middle-aged.

Glorfindel isn't a tree-hugger. He's a prince of elves, and a champion shit-wrecker to boot.

Dwarf Fortress dwarves run the full spectrum of personality, because they have to for the simulation to make any sense.

>>53446470
To be fair, even outside of nipnong land, there are plenty of people who want to kill themselves specifically because they feel like a useless piece of shit who is a burden to everyone around them.

>>53446480
Elves are already a niche fetish unto themselves, you're not making a solid point.

>>53446513
Reread the OP dumbass. You missed a very important word.

>>53446480
Do you feel special stalking an anonymous image board posting the same image in response to a niche fetish manga by a guy who likes to draw voluptuous women?

>>53446513
Pretty sure Legolas and Gimli didn't originate from an anime. Jesus christ, learn to read.

>>53446543
Oooooh.

Hah.

Well, you live and learn.

>>53446522
>Elves are already a niche fetish unto themselves
No, they aren't. Elves in porn are just humans with some strange ears. Everybody aside from very autistic elf-haters will be able to masturbate to them. What's true is that there are some elf-fetishists, but they masturbate alongside anybody else.

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>>53442813
the entirety of the city state of Ishgard from FFXIV
those pansies from Gridania need not apply

>>53446522
If you are not allowed the courtesy of being selfish even in your death, then where the fuck are you even allowed it then?

I get the logic of "I don't want to be a burden" (mainly because I was such a person myself and considered suicide when I was in an emotionally edgy phase), but the thing is, if you truly feel like you are being a burden, you don't fucking kill yourself - instead you try to alleviate the burden by helping the people around you that you feel close to.
And at some point, when you succeed at alleviating the burden, you simply stop feeling useless, because at some point the people close to you start feeling grateful of you helping them.

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>>53443655
>>53443698
Sure thing.

>>53446612
I get that. You get that. The ones who kill themselves are the ones who don't get that. If you feel so passionate about it, go be a fucking motivational speaker or life-guidance counselor. Help them, rather than arguing with people on an anonymous taiwanese puppet drama imageboard.

>>53446612
The people so down in their dumps as to seriously consider killing themselves typically have such a low self-esteem that they really wouldn't want to cause any more trouble to anyone.

>>53446379
Seems like a pretty good system actually. People who are serious about suicide don't care if there's an audience

>>53446698
>implying I'm not practicing my speeches by talking with people on anonymous mandalorian fingerbox board
No, seriously, I do public speeches sometimes, my position allows me to, it's just that I'm not so passionate about it to intentionally seek out people to change their lives.
Also, there are at least 42 people in this thread, and the probability of our exchange helping someone in their dumps is non-zero, especially on 4chan, which is known to be a shelter for maladjusted and social outcasts.

>>53442813
Working on the elf, but the dwarf is easy Princess Luca Final Fantasy 4.

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Here's a Japanese Dwarf.

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>>53448051
And here's a Japanese elf that isn't an adorable anime girl.

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>>53445628
Norse dark elves are dwarves my dude

>>53448068
That's a half-elf.

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>>53444269
>when he calls them the perfect warriors
>after slaughtering them

>>53443125
Svartalfar are right cunts, I'll give you that m8.

>>53442847
Witcher elves are more ISIS than EPA

The entirety of dwarf fortress dwarfs are neither honorable nor friendly

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And, as far as everyone except, essentially, Puck is concerned, you could also include the Elves of Misty Valley who are sociopathic murderers, man-eaters, and child abductors.

>>53448173
One drop rule.

>>53449043

>Elves of Misty Valley who are sociopathic murderers, man-eaters, and child abductors.

But are those actually elves though?

As I recall, the Manga seemed to indicate they were anything but.

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>>53446263

I'd hate to see issues Pirotess would have with that then.

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>>53442813

What about these jokers?

>>53450141
An obvious parody.

>>53450030
They're not real elves, their leader is just a crazy elfaboo who alters people to look like elves.

Plus we've seen a kingdom of real elves already.

>>53450030
Technically, no. To the average human, however, there is no difference except one doesn't eat you.

It does, in a way, fit with nebulous nature of elves in mythology.

>>53445406
I kinda find the "male dwarves look like old men since early adulthood, female dwarves look like teenagers way into old age" thing super funny, specially if they're always offended that you misjudged their age.

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>>53442813

So I would assume Alleyne and Ymir fail in both regards to your question?

>>53445442
In my experience, the only people who have friend anymore are mexicans.
Asians make friends by forced interaction and they rarely genuinelly like each other. Africans genuinelly laugh at the concept of friendship and african americans aren't any better, hood loyalty is entirelly a self-preservation tactic. Muslims will denounce you for any perceived sligh and jews will sell you for a sheckel. And of course white people, the worms willing to give up on childhood societies for a sniff of pussy or separate from their own family to avoid being perceived as regressive, americans in particular are the most fragmented people on earth.

But mexicans? I've seen those little fuckers jump in the fire for a friend without thinking about it and forgive shit that others would be killing each other for. Shame they suffer from bucket of crabs syndrome and you can't afford to have more than two around without the third wheel dragging them down.

>>53448800
No, he says that the first time you actually encounter them. They show up at your wood-gathering colony and fuck your shit up before you can rally your forces to defend your peons.

It goes like
>Women! They are women!
>NOT JUST WOMEN, THEY ARE PERFECT SOLDIERS

>>53446379
The only reason I haven't killed myself is I don't know how to dissapear completely so my family doesn't have to know or be charged anything.

>>53442813
>>53442813

That angry guy from LH
Puck from Berserk
Tons of side character in Zero no Tsukaima
Unironically every male in SAO second cour

The dwarf is pretty retarded considering Tolkien gave us only male old-ish bearded guys.

>>53446592
You know, that's true.
I demand super skinnytall elf porn now! No more humans with prosthetic ears!

>>53442813

That arty style reminds me of Odin Sphere a bit.

>>53442847
>Can you name a single elf originating from a western cartoon, RPG, or other Western fantasy medium, who isn't a pointy eared tree hugger?
Merisiel.

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>Non-moeblob dwarves
Here, Luca from FFIV The After Years

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>>53442813
Sexy. Yes.
Adorable. Not really.
Moe. No.

Echidna's an elf and a snake wearing sexual predator.

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>>53450607
to be honest it makes sense for him to think that given the circumstances.

>been living in a foreign world for a few years
>fought two massive wars against humans, dwarves, and high elves
>all 3 of those races are completely different from orcs
>they use guns, magic, siege weapons
>they're all much smaller than orcs
>finally get to kalimdor
>meet a new race of elves living in the woods
>they're fucking huge, just like orcs
>they ride loyal, intelligent, savage beasts into battle just like orcs
>they fight just like orcs
>they're feral just like orcs, with claws and fangs
>and their women are just as savage as their men

it was probably the best fight Grom had since he got to azeroth, night elves vs orcs is essentially cats vs dogs.

>>53450141
You could see some of the dev's magical realm in all of this.

>>53442904
>moe
>cute
pick one you numale faggot.

>>53450706
There's a reason for that: Dragon's Crown and Odin Sphere were made by the same people.

>>53446612
People who kill themselves because they don't want to be a burden probably don't believe that they're capable of alleviating the burden by helping people.