Explain this, false emperor fags:

>>53430371
Psychics are empirically true?

>>53430371
It's a memetic disease of disbelief, designed to be spread and thus starve the Gods into powerlessness by feeding the Warp with such thoughts.

>>53430408
But this proves that material has no true form, therefore a materialist/ positivity understanding of order is an objective because what can be measured to be true can change whenever it feels like changing.

>>53430459
>positivity

Positivist

>>53430459
But...but...reLIEgon is bad cuz is all lies and feeds bad thingies in the warp and stuff

>>53430371
>Evil powers gain power from being in peoples thoughts.
>Good guy suppresses knowledge of them.

Makes sense to me.

>>53430443
But that's not how chaos works, you're just going to create a chaos God of unbelief within the Immaterium.

>>53430443
Because in the warp, if people believe something, it happen, if people believe there're no god, the chaos god will loose self-conscience and become a smaller threat.

>>53430544
But there are already gods dedicated to nihilism like Malal. All Secularism will do is strengthen that kind of god. If your entire ethos is based on spiting the Chaos gods then all you will do is strengthen a different chaos god.

Maybe Lorgar was right, and the emperor of mankind needs to worshipped as a god?

>>53430619
With that said shouldn't it be empirically true then, that since matter can just change at will, that the only way to defeat chaos is to worship the emperor as a God ?

>>53430619
>All Secularism will do is strengthen that kind of god.
I consider strengthening the suicidal God at the expense of the homicidal ones to be a victory.

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>>53430927
But the suicidal God worships the destruction of the galaxy. Thats all unbelief does. When you live in a world where spontaneous generation exists as a an objective fact, where the laws of physics do not exist in certain areas of the universe based solely around whatever the local psychic deity dictates, then Positivism is a logical fallacy in said universe. If we are to have a secular understanding of the world, then it is an objective imperative to worship the reality of the Emperor as he who protects people from the corruption of other gods, because it is objectively true that you need to will your reality into existence.

Admit it. The only way to prevent chaos from spreading is to worship the emperor as a deity. Lorgar did nothing wrong.

>>53431033
nah, we could just have the necrons do it.

>>53430459
it doesn't that at all.

it just means the warp is another "force"that can effect and change things.

the warp existing doesn't invalidate secularism.

>>53430500
already exists. Necoho the doubter.

>>53430371

Your argument relies on semantic chicanery. You're conflating colloquial use of the term 'reality' with the metaphysical sense.

>>53430371
>''All i ever wanted was the truth''
>spreads lies
Explain this, chaoscucks.

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We have been through this....

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>>53434366
The Chaos Gods definition doesn't matter at all.

>>53430500
That's because the Mary Sue nature of chaos has metastasized to work on the very metaphysical level.
You cannot take any action within 40k now without it benefiting Chaos.