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What you can tell me about Artesia? is it good?

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What you can tell me about Artesia? is it good?
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>>53429188
Recently started playing a campaign, we are on session 3 now, I quite like it, as does my party. What do you wan to know?
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>>53429290
We especially like the character creation, you create a whole backstory together with the stats to your character. They also like the Arcana system (xp)

I like the setting a lot, thats why I wanted the book.
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>>53429290
I think the most basic question are:
What is unique about it?
How does combat go? fast? lethal?
How is magic?
Is it high fantasy? like what is the most over the top thing you can do?
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>>53429290
Is it as high fantasy as Exalted or Anima?
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>>53429950
>What is unique about it?
Definitly the Arcana system. Actions you take are rewarded with Arcana points. The Arcana's are based on the Tarot, and for example the Empress arcana rewards you points for swaying the opinion of a crowd (and a lot of other stuff). These Empress points then can be spent on boosting your characteristics (only the ones related to that arcana, APPearance and PERception for example). On skills like intrigue, seduce, Heraldry, Etiquette and others or some other stuff. That is the most common way of growing your character, through the actions you take and the Arcana points you are rewarded for these actions.

You get Empress points for being in an indirect position of power, Sword points for defeating opponents, hanged man points for interactions with spirits, lover points for having sex, marrying etc etc etc. There are 21 arcana cards and every one of them has about 20 actions you can take to gain points from them.
>How does combat go? fast? lethal?
Combat is dangerous, if you are not wearing armour a single wound can fuck u up good. Bleeding is what kills people in this game. Of the 6 characters killed in combat in my games up till now 5 died of bleeding and the last one was hit in the head till he stopped moving.
>How is magic?
Magic is quite free form, you have these principles of magic that a mage can shape. For example the principle of making lets you create stuff in the world. These principles can be shaped by mages into different forms, for example a shaped making spell to create a wall of fire, or a making spell to make yourself look prettier. Magic can be overpowered as fuck so I keep a very critical eye on my party mage and everything he does.
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>>53430233
The world is high fantasy but mages aren't everywhere. The gods openly work in the world sometimes and every single person can try and learn some magic if they want to. Most important and rich dudes all have at least a couple of magic items on them. I don't know Exalted or Anima so I don't have a clue about that, but if I recall correctly Exalted is the rpg about ubermenschen in a fantasy land right? Well it's nothing like that. It's more like a medieval setting with a lot more actual spirituality and magic.

For example, in combat most important guys have enchanted weapons, thats why this dude in pic can cut through full plate.
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>>53430283
Mages hardly fling fireballs around, mostly magic is indirect. Buffing friends, calling on the gods to support you, strengthening armour and cursing enemies with nerfs, that kind of stuff.

The main part of the setting is quite standard European in the late middle ages. There are a couple of different cultures in this region (the middle kingdoms, and the RPG book pretty much assumes you are making people fromt this region.
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>>53430283

Sounds really interesting. I might actually pick up the comics.
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>>53430776
What I liked about the comic that it had sensible armours (with the exception of the heroine going into combat with naked legs at some point but that happens only once). Good looking medieval combat with real life inspired battle lines and weapons and such. That was primarily pulled me in but I stayed for the great setting and cool mythology.

This is my favourite pannel of the comic. The huge snake women are the gods of war arriving on the battlefield. They are only visible to people that can see magic so most soldiers won't see them and they don't directly fight but they influence the fight indirectly.
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>>53430776
The comics are pretty good, but they will never ever be finished.
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>>53430917
Yeah this is kinda shitty. The author Mark Smylie, started a publishing company after he started the comic, and his publishing company became very successful giving him very little time to work on the comic. There are 3 volumes finished and a last volume half finished. The rpg book will probably also be the only one because of this, so you need to homebrew a lot of stuff if you play for a long time.
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>>53430962
>>53430917
He is still writing books in the same setting though. So if you really can't get enough of it you can read his book to get more.

there are some weird fucking sex scenes in the book though
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>>53430991
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>>53431597
>>53430883
>>53430962

This looks incredible.
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>>53429188
What I found the biggest gripe is the like 30 versions of xp and shit you have to deal with.
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I've got some stuff. Need stats for trees? Right here!
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>>53434316
And some NPCs
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>>53430283
is the reason she doesn't wear a helmet because it wouldn't provide any protection in that setting anyway?
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>>53434886
She's got protagonist armour.
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Over complicated, XP tracking is a chore. The social rules are fucked.

The art and setting are amazing and worth the cost of the book itself.
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Anyone got a torrent link for the rulebook?
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>>53435972
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/iz0m2xwfswf33/Artesia

Link for the rulebook and comic
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>>53434886
IIRC she didn't get a single scratch during combat in the comic. Her plot armor are that good.
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>>53429290
Does the game have rules for battles and mass combat? The comic seems to focus on it a lot.
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>>53434886
Artesia herself is the weakest part of the comic in my opinion, such a mary sue. It seems she would have a fall of sorts in the next comics but...
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>>53437262
No the plan was that would come in a supplement. There are rules for formation fighting and morale so you can do large battles, but no rules for commanding large units and the like
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Author should stop writing about applications of unicorn horns and expand on the world he created.
This map is beautiful.
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>>53434886
It's OK, she's got magic.

She's actually a priestess in a weird sexy witch cult so she's got more magic than most.
Often she performs a ritual immediately before battle and a couple times she has to rush out slightly less armored than she'd like.

And her familiar is a pair of twins, spirits of battle, and they watch her back
She's also got a harem of ghost wives.
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>>53441660
She looks like a man with wide hips
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>>53441914
Do not bully.
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>>53441179
Correct. The man can make some great maps
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>>53442861
>water body names not italicized

ree
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>>53430009

No, quite the contrary.
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>>53443014
Is it wrong? I love drawning rivers and lakes on the map but I've never italicized their names.
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>>53443156
It's not wrong exactly but italicizing them is considered best practice, it helps distinguish them from land names.
If at any point your map confuses the viewer then you've got a bad map.
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>>53431824

This is probably my favourite scene

I dislike the square man faces and the main character well... i expect she will always pull some unbelievable bullshit to win but the battle scenes and the camaraderie are very well done.

The last half finished book's main antagonist is also very interesting. Upstart noble who doesnt give a fuck about anything except power and is relatively intelligent.
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>>53436098

Holy shit, that's the mediafire archive I made years ago.
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>>53443239
>Upstart noble who doesnt give a fuck about anything except power and is relatively intelligent.

He is a total ham, anyone wants a short story time from the comic?
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>>53443232
Thanks for the advice. I will strive to match mother nature's craziness.
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>>53443332
Go ahead.
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>>53443332
Are they the same guy?
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>>53434316
>sheep have stats
>All 18 attributes are statted
>just in case you want to, you know, seduce a sheep or something

This isn't gaming, it's writing masturbation.
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>>53443564
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>>53443332
Do it.
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>>53443587
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>>53443587
Is that rider an elf?
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>>53443559
>just in case you want to, you know, seduce a sheep or something
Why did you look up their stats if you don't need them? Are you attracted to sheep or something?
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>>53442014
Terrible sameface in all the comics though.
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>>53430361
It's much better than, say, the Forgotten Realms. But Deserts Don't Work That Way.

He justifies half his ecology with primordial gods having shitfits.
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>>53443628
This is a no-bullying zone, do not bully.
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>>53443609

No, the thulamites just have weird helms.
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>>53443609
No, she is Thulamite nomad from the steppes. Artist just loves helmets with a flange on the rear like sallets.
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>>53443239
That's the image that prompted me to download the whole thing.
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>>53443673
It was one goddess who turned her lush garden into desert desu
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>>53443756
Two. Two of them. Bitches. East coast deserts Don't Work That Way, unless,the planet is turning in the other direction.
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>>53443781
The Black Sands and Uthedmael are results of powerful curses layed by human magic. The second bitch's garden didn't become a desert. It withered away after the Queen Bitch banished her to the Underworld. Not!Ottomans live there now.
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>>53443710
>>53443729

If anyone wonders how their story ended she gave birth to twin daughters but was soon murder by his enemies. He never meet his daughters, they were raise by their mothers family.
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>>53442014
I'd bully her harder than Illiki Helios no homo
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>>53444833

Sun court get out

Phoenix court rules here
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>>53444923
Go wake up your royal vegetable. He needs to hear that.
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>>53445029
>>53444923

Palatia rules the courts drool
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Anyone read The Barrow? I am half way through and I am enjoying myself specially with the very descriptive sex scenes.
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>>53445420
Do you mean descriptive or /d/escriptive scenes?
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Posting some art and characters people might like.
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>>53445420
Here
>>53430991
I didn't like the sex scenes as much but I did like the book and the setting. Especially the plain of flowers.
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>>53445476
He's dead, Jim
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>>53445474

Well that depends, there is a gang bang early on with 3 sailors and a priestess, later there is an scene with a young aurian lad taking it hard from the rear and the mouth in a bath house and also and incestuous hand-job between brother and sister.

There is something for everyone in the book, in my case I enjoy then all.
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>>53429188
wasn't she the one that fucked all her men because she didn't believe in playing favorites?
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>>53445819
>fucked all her men
She fucked all her girls too
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>>53445863
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>>53430283
It's basically RL, only that magic and the gods are actually real and folks interact with and use it the way they tried to and imagined that it works IRL.

So none of that FIREBALL FIREBALL FIREBALL shit.
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>>53445886
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>>53445897
>So none of that FIREBALL FIREBALL FIREBALL shit.
I'm sure powerful mages can actually summon huge ball of fire at a steep price. It won't explode like in D&D and dies out quickly without fuel but can be used to set buildings and people on fire. Glamour magic can cause extinction events if not kept in check.
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>>53446001
Correct, you can create fire with incantations of making. making is overpowered as shit
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>>53446001

I really want to see more magicians in the comic
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>>53446220
>53446220
Yeah they never actually tell a whole lot about those guys. Are they Daradjans? Athairi?
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>>53446220
The comic is full of mages. Leading character knows magic, she employs folk magicians you posted, Thessids use all kinds of magic, one of the antagonists is an immortal magician. What I to see is a battle between them with spirits, wards and all that jazz.
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>>53446258
At least one of them is from Daradja and hides a mild spoiler
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>>53446220

I think that the black hair guy in the middle is an Athairi magister from Newgate or alchemist by his looks and clothing. The old guy is a freelance enchanter from Daradja as seen >>53446252 , the woman to the extreme left a witch from the Eridwold and most definitive Athairi while the other might be Daradjan I am not sure what she is and the old woman is >>53446375
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>>53446651
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The magic system is ludicrously flexible but a bit overpowered once you get invested in it, the combat system is elegant, the gifts system that basically handles superpowers is elegant, the setting is very interesting, and the experience system is flavorful but tedious to keep track of. Those of you who've whined about Artesia being a Mary Sue just kind of need to shut up because she doesn't meet any definition of 'Mary Sue'. She has no unique powers, people don't just suddenly like her for no reason or adopt her morality, and she's not overpowered by the setting's standards. Her grandmother, the king of the Not-Turks, the Isliklidae, and a fair few other people are more powerful than she is by one or several orders of magnitude.
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I have been thinking about running a Song Ice and Fire quest with it's system in the Artesia setting. Those that sound too crazy?
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>>53446693
>Those of you who've whined about Artesia being a Mary Sue just kind of need to shut up because she doesn't meet any definition of 'Mary Sue'.
See this guy>>53445476
He was regarded as one of the most powerful and respected kings in the Middle Kingdoms.

Artesia was well above average person by the age of 16. Her stats would look like that:
APP 5 STR 7 STAM 5 DEX 6 TECH 6 BODY 29
PER 7 WILL 7 MEM 4 IMAG 7 INST 5 MIND 30
PRE 6 CONV 6 COUR 7 EMP 4 WIS 8 SPIRIT 31

Gifts: Imperious Tongue 1, Otherworldly Visage 2, Second Sight 4, Spellbinding Form 3

That's before applying other factors. I don't what months she was born or what boons her real father granted her. By the time the comic starts Artesia would be on par with or surpass the most capable men in her world. She got a good set of gifts which go nicely with whatever magic her mother managed to teach her.
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>>53447027
>Artesia was well above average person by the age of 16

Pretty sure she is far older than that.
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>>53447011
You absolutely need magic rules to play in Artesia setting. People use magic, people pray to gods and gods answer their prayers, people make deals with otherworldly spirits. Magic is essential part of the world.
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>>53447084

Point taken, I might make a chimera with the magic system from Artesia and the other rule set.
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>>53446375
>>53446693
>>53446693
I thaught I had read everything there is about the faction, what is the spoiler?
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>>53447027
What did you base the stats on, are her starsign and omens mentioned anywhere?
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>>53445939
Dess Urune is the world mountain
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>>53447341
>the faction
should read the setting

Is she the witch from the Bel Bog?
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>>53446693
>She has no unique powers
She's a sex preistess who is awesome at war for no good reason, rather because she learned from 2 (two) battle spirits that she had no business interacting with

>people don't just suddenly like her for no reason or adopt her morality
She's a sex priestess who gained an army and became queen of a small country for no real reason, people just like her

>and she's not overpowered by the setting's standards
She's overpowered compared to everything she's faced so far
She got a glimpse at a dragon king once but even as she did she was gloating internally about how magically overpowered she and her soldiers are
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>>53447405

Very likely, why else the Isliklidae take over that barren and poor land if not for something of magical importance? Their goal to reach heaven and cast down their father from the Sun throne like Irré did with Illiki.
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>>53447027
Don't forget the 5 runes sword.
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>>53447470

She is Urgrayne in disguise, also King Cynan himself is seen next to her sled a couple of times in the comic.
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>>53447374
>are her starsign and omens mentioned anywhere
Omens and her mother's lineage are mentioned in the comic, I go by the rulebook. I don't know her starsign and father. In her teenage years Artesia was a not very attractive musclegirl with natural gift for magic.
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>>53447472
>for no real reason, people just like her
These two gifts (Imperious Tongue 1, Spellbinding Form 3), magic and sex would be enough to rule petty kingdom in the mountains.
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>>53447143
Good luck with that, anon
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As mention
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>>53447886

The poor guy was the greatest Citadel King in generations and likely never return to his throne after wining the most important battle of the age >>53445727
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>>53447930
Never noticed that the riders around her coach aren't mortal but ghosts. Cynan rides with her in that short story damn. People really like collecting ghost buddies in the known world
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>Never noticed that the riders around her coach aren't mortal but ghosts.

Are they? They might have join the ride while still alive and never truly die.
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I think MEM should be added to the roll when determining time character spent traveling in the Otherworld or Dreamworld in body. As it stands right now MEM isn't very useful.
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>>53447472
>for no real reason

She's a well respected military leader living in a kingdom that worships multiple war gods. She's also a priestess of that religion, so she has more than enough of a reason to be in contact with those war spirits. She was also trained by King Bran's personal guard captain, so there's that too.

Second, people also love her because she overthrew a king who had forsaken her people's faith. And even when she marches south her army consists mostly of her own soldiers because the other Daradjan kings only sent her a token force.
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>>53443705
He's got good taste in equipment
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>free flowing hair

>that armor

Seriously?
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>>53450985
>she overthrew a king who had forsaken her people's faith.

This, Pavel her main banner lord side with her over Bran because of this as he considered it a greater breach of tradition than rising against the king, most of the other banner lords also saw this as the deciding factor.
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>>53450985
>She was also trained by King Bran's personal guard captain
It'd be funny if he trained her wrong on purpose
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>>53447374
Her brother delivered all the exposition when they first met
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>>53434316
Got Bestiary Part 1 somewhere?
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>>53453887
It's right in the corebook
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>>53447011
BRP/Runeques or even barbarians of lemuria could pull it off if you don't like the Artesia rules.
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>>53454250
Runequest 3rd is a very good system. I especially like the quickness of everything.
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>>53455889
Rumour has it that RQ was the original system for Artesia. It wound up with Fuzion because that system was available and Chaosium ..was not.
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>>53430233
>The Arcana's are based on the Tarot, and for example the Empress arcana rewards you points for swaying the opinion of a crowd (and a lot of other stuff). These Empress points then can be spent on boosting your characteristics
Are you saying the points turn into XP AFTER you use them to enhance an action (which is amazing and really well done, and I like the flow of take actions-Gain points-> Spend points to enhance that kind of action-> Get better at that kind of thing), or is it more like Deadlines classic, where you have to choose BETWEEN spending them on enhancing actions, OR spending them as XP (which is awful and dumb for a multitude of reasons)
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>comic is not in print

So... how many 9/11 before they get their shit together?
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>>53456506
IIRC author played Runequest and the comic was inspired by his campaigns
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>>53456680
I dont quite understand what you mean.

>>53456585
No you get points for specific actions, and you can spend these points on upgrading your characteristics or skills and some other stuff. There is an arcana to boost rolls too, The Fool, but that is a meta card.

For example, you attack an opponent in combat and defeat him. This act gives you some points in the Sword arcana. These you could spend on things related to the Sword arcana. Your Strenght or Perception skills like Melee, Campaigning, or Armour Training etc.
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>>53456585
>the points turn into XP AFTER you use them to enhance an action
Is there a game that does xp gain this way? Using arcana points to buff path related action makes perfect sense but they are spent in the process.
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I have a question where does the Sun Court draws the line on magic? What forbidden and heretical? I mean not all is bad if the magisters do some of it.
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>>53462742
Generally the Sun Courts persecutes occult magic and the Forbidden Cults. Witches and sorcerers who use their magic to destroy social order are hunted down. Since Islik's father was restored to his position as the Sun they don't have real reason to prohibit worship and traditional sacrifices to the old gods.
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Artesia; worldbuilding where STDs are not a thing.
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>>53464270
What do you think Pollution from sex stands for?
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>>53443239
I like it an all. Would be better if the horsemen were actually carrying bows to harass the pikemen. They cant do anything against those pikes.
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>>53429188
>An entire thread is created for Artesia at all.
>Created near three days ago.
>Still going.

I love you guys. I don't have anything else to say - no references to the lore that show that I'm also a huge fan for the setting; I just wanted to say that I love you all.
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>>53467704
Don't worry, anon. I love you too no homo
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>>53445144
When did you realize Thessid invasion is a defensive war against aggressive Palatian imperialism? This war serves two goals. The first goal is to to gain solid base in the Middle Kingdoms and stop Palatian barbarians from raiding rich coastal cities in Thessidia. Palatian naval dominance hampers potential trade in the safe pocket of Mera Dure. The second goal is to control supply of luxuries from the Spice Road to Palatia and gain leverage against them. As it stands right now Palatians are nearly invulnerable sitting on two major trade routes from Califa, the Spice Road through the Sea of Sands and naval trade route around Sabuta which remains uncontested without foothold in Illia and Hemispia. At the same time Palatians are free to pick their target and war as they wish. Even unpleasant alliance with the Islikids serves the same purpose, to threaten the Spice Road and Palatia.

Daradja has to ally with Thessid-Gola or fall to conquest before Thessids can break alliance with the Islikid Kingdoms. Both act as a northernmost base against Palatian war machine and client states. At least one of them must stand with Thessid-Gola for this war to be successful.
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>>53469373
tl;dr Palatians are the baddies
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>>53463389
>traditional sacrifices to the old gods.
They allow offerings, sacrifices are definitly not allowed.
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>>53464270
They are a thing
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>>53464270
>>53464389
>>53471247
Funnily enough there are rules for child conceptions and miscarriages.
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>>53471359
>rules for child conceptions
Thank gods, pennyroyal isn't extinct yet
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>>53465185
In the next panel one of Artesias captains get shot in her mouth by a horse archer
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>>53468885
One of the things I like about that setting is the greek like renaissence culture they have.
Also the magic is on point.
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>>53472943
Correct
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Anybody have ideas about short adventures (or long ones for that matter) during play?
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>>53476070
While staying in a town your characters meet a wealthy merchant/innkeeper. He offers you an easy job with good pay and buys your stuff for decent price. He carefully checks the coins each time they change hands. The thing is gold and silver he pays you with is cursed. Merchant has been working and making lucrative business with unsavory folks for years, either bandits, mercenaries, grave robbers or cultists of dark gods. One way or another they got their hands on the money and brought curse upon themselves by brutally slaughtering its previous owners or stealing it from powerful entity. They fell victims to the curse and the merchant is the only one remaining. Merchant's house is protected with old wards he placed long time ago. He sent his servant and accomplice for help but he was found drowned in the dirty pool with the gold missing. Now merchant is homebound and seeks to get rid from the curse with your help.
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Just finish The Barrow, what a ride of cloak and dagger and hidden allegiances. I highly recommended the book.
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>>53479920
Same, high hopes for the next novel
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