Warhammer 40k General /40kg/

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First for I actually like these guys.

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>>53399787
A decade and they still can't make flying duel wilding infantry

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>>53399787
Cute Numarines are cute.

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>>53399787
Second for I agree, they just got posed wrong but the tech itself is solid.

Quick, /40kg/, GW has asked to design the fluff and look for an entirely new faction to debut in 8th Edition!

What would you want?

>>53399787
Shit taste. All numarines look like robotic tin men, like a toy version of an Astartes.

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7th for Thorns

>>53399807
Those seriously look better than the new things.

What's the stats on a russ again for 8th

>>53399814
There's little that we don't already have. On the condition that it has to be new and not just copycatting another army, miniscule C'tan shards that form smaller beings of pure energy. Still eat stars as normal, and follow after the larger shards who have broken free and seek to dominate the Necrons once more.

>>53399787
I think my problem with them is they dont look like they have motion. They looks like they are just hovering there and if they are suppose to be the assault class of the primaris marines then they should look like they are charging.

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>>53399765

So, do you guys think old marines will ever get a new model kit or is it new boys from here on out?

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>>53399821
Like a toy version of a toy soldier.

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>>53399812
Same, I'm digging all the new stuff except maybe the captain (if that's what all terminator armor looks like I'll be disappointed), but I'll wait for the non-snapfit kits to come out.
>>53399821
Funny, I actually thought the same about old marines, but truescale proportions have really fixed a lot of the problems I've had before.
>>53399810
So cute.

>>53399871
Even their art versions look like toys.

>>53399812
Unless I am mistaken, the flight stands end in a ball joint so you can angle the model.

Could the one anon who was doing edits kindly try one for Blood Ravens?
I've been debating starting them for 8th.

>>53399862
nobody knows yet what primaris dudesmen actually mean for 40k.

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How can vanilla Marines even complete?

>>53399862
Probably not. They'll give some old characters new Primaris versions, and continually add more kits to the Primaris range.

>>53399849
GW should just introcude C'tan shards that gathered enough of themselves to near full power, who have Necron followers and/or dominate some Necron dynasties. This way there are oldcrons and newcrons, the two can fight because the C'tan want to free more shards, and Pariahs can be a thing again.

>>53399862
All new. In a few years they'll retcon the idea of primarines and they'll just be the norm

>>53399878
Being bigger doesnt make them less toy-like. They just look too plain and shiny, like if made out of clay.

>>53399849
A return of the Men of Iron and "Abominable Intelligences" as a new rogue faction with an arsenal of DAoT perhaps?

Then again, given how Halo's currently doing that, probably wouldn't be the best move in the world, since it might come off as forced by GW.

>>53399878
The captain looks like his armour needed to be adjusted because he has a gaint beerbelly.

>>53399862
I think they will, but it'll be a long time in between.
Assuming they keep the distinction where regular marines are more flexible they still have a solid role (especially with not having to shoot a whole squad at one unit) which makes them still viable.
However, if primaris take over as the big poster boys there's no reason to keep marinelets on the forefront, so they drop in priority.

>>53399906

I don't like the Primaris Captain's pose. It make him look short and squat from that angle.

>>53399807

The Seraphim aiming the bolt pistol will always be my favorite.

>>53399807
>transexual space nuns
Kek

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>>53399814
Abominable Intelligence faction designed by Nihei, please.

What's that, we already have Necrons? Fuck Necrons, they're shit, Blamebots would be a million times better and more fitting for 40K.

>>53399925
I don't see anything that can't be fixed with a better paintjob.

>>53399979
epic XD

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Do you know why I want this release of 8th edition to succeed?

It's not because I play the game
It's not because I have an interest in the lore
It's not because I need validation
It's not because of any of that shit

It's for the tears of the GW haters, so long has their hate flowed. They have moved to other games, games with their own problems and constantly fall back on their hate for GW.
It's for their inability to address problems with their favorite game, which is going to get crushed under the weight of this new edition, it's sales and all the old and new blood coming to GW.
It's for these reasons I want 8th to be great. To be the best 40k has ever been. To watch the haters burn. To wallow in their own frustration. To be proven wrong, even though they will never fucking accept that.
To watch them cling to whatever game they were playing to escape the supposed evil of GW, and in doing to so watch that game fall into deeper problems.

That's why lads, I'm a fucking primaris marine now.

>>53399906
So far I'm only impressed with the new Tactical guys so my options are a force of all infantry Primaris or just adding a few reinforcements to the marines I have.

>>53399807
Fun fact the Seraphim Superior with plasma pistol and power sword was released on 2004.

Still better looking than this abortion >>53399787

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>>53399765
>One of the High Lords of Terra is actively, nay, OPENLY FRATERNIZING WITH THE VILE ELDAR SCUM
Such heresy cannot stand!

>>53399988
Fucking yes please. Suitably grimdark and fucking badass. I'm honestly not sure why it's taking so long for GW to fluff out the Iron Men more, but if they did they should definitely take some Nihei inspiration.

>>53399989
Doubt any paint can fix the sheer lack of detail.

>>53399991
>being such a buttburt sobcuck
Lmao

>>53399998
That's deep, anon.

>>53399787
I REALLY like them. They look cool as shit.

>>53399860
I agree, but I think this pose is more like a "harrier" stance where they fly a short distance, hover and shoot, fly away. Perhaps there'll be a dual-kit version of the minis that makes assault-jump pack Primaris and these guys. That would definitely open up the posing situation.

>>53399998
>That's why lads, I'm a fucking paid shill now.
FTFY

So... might finally jump into 40k with this new edition but my main interest is being super shooty with something like Tau. will they be playable in 8th ed at any time in the near future? I assume i have to wait for their codex in a long line of codexes, yeah? And it would be even worse if i wanted to go super niche and play a Farsight Enclave?

>>53399998
>look how butthurt these guys are
>t. every butthurt person ever

Just do your own thing. The internet is in no way representative of the real work.
If you are entering /tg/'s echo chamber, you should know what to expect.

>>53400021
>Doubt any paint can fix the sheer lack of detail.
You're going to point this out to me, how does this differ from the old models?

Also I like a lack of detail, means I can customize it myself instead of filing shit off.

>>53400040
Didn't you know that GW doesn't acknowledge any other miniatures games as being competition, let alone existing?

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Are wrecks gonna still be a thing?
I loved leaving wrecks on the table and using them as cover, also looked cool

Notice how after everyone agrees the jump Primaris look like shit, a sudden surge of posters talking about how much they like them pops out of nowhere?

The astroturfing is real.

>>53399814
>Hrud

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What do you guys think about the hood on the new jump marines?

>>53400003

God no, don't. The new marines look moslty okayish, but don't mix and match in a single army, having their completely different proportions next to one another just looks wrong.

What are the other chaos gods on the 8 point star?

>>53400076
They are confirmed to be release this year.

Or the same shit under another name like Hrudari, Hruduk or H'rud

>>53400066
>implying people won't just fuck off and play videogames
Nice try.

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>>53400082

My main issue with the Primaris marines is the lack of flair and variety among their components. They all have the same helmet, same legs, same chest, etc., with the exception of the sergeants and lieutenants, who have some minor variations, like a skull on the forehead or a notch in the gorget. As of now, they all look extremely plain. I would prefer it if they amped up the medieval and gothic a bit.

Granted, the ones we're seeing now are snap fit. I imagine whenever they come out with a standalone Primaris kit they'll come with more varied bits. As for the lack of flair, I imagine that when they introduce chapter upgrade kits for these guys they will look a bit more flavorful. Until then I'm somewhat disappointed with their very plain aesthetic.

>>53400088
gonna need a source on that my dude

>>53400093
Meant for
>>53400079

>>53400079
I don really like it, but it looks even worse without it. That jump pack is fucking Dreadnoughts sized.

What exactly is the Eightfold Path?

>>53400069
I just got home from work. I saw them this morning on Facebook, but I didn't get on 4chan until just a few minutes ago. I genuinely like them.
>>53400079
No hood looks weird, like a giant metal pillow behind his head. Maybe some heraldry would work to tone down how plain it looks.

>>53399787
They're the sad middle ground between having a fishbowl & visor and being a normal marine.
It just makes them into librarians. It looks weird.

>>53400088
>yfw they go back to being space skaven?

>>53399787
Interesting models but shit pose.

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>>53400018
Imagine it.

Horde army of fast, fragile hard-hitter not!Exterminators backed up by intimidating as fuck, super-tough, super-hurty, super-regeneratey not!pic relateds. I would seriously delete Necrons from the game for this.

>>53400102
Spaniard GW representative.
It came up during the talks about opening a GW franchise in SA.

There are plans for 2 more races depending how well the first one goes.
She also confirmed SoB are not getting any.

>>53400109
'Sad truth.

>>53400088
Gonna need some sauce on that.

>>53400117
No pls

>>53400079

That's an improvement, but the jump pack is still mounted too high and taking the hood out draws further attention to the lack of air intakes every other jump pack design have.

Also the stupid shoes, and the weird limp dangling pose puting them on a flight stand resulted in.

Why is there still no audiobook mega library?
We used to have one. I wanna get my hands on the first heretic.

>>53400088
Bullshit.

>>53400110
evil space buddhism

>>53400131
>She also confirmed SoB are not getting any.
Really, really gone need a source on that one.

Everyone is talking about the jump dudes, but have you seen the new Primaris Captain? Dude looks more deformed and bloated than the fucking plague marines.

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>>53399787
They look like kittens being drag by their mothers.

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>>53400168
Holy fuck

>>53400164
>Source: Reality and the last decade

>>53400164
As in not getting any models this year.

>>53400168
i wonder how many points those mama cat transports are going to be

>>53400098
>My main issue with the Primaris marines is the lack of flair and variety among their components. They all have the same helmet, same legs, same chest, etc
It's so you can use the old Space Marine customization bits (helmets, shoulder pads, etc..). Just grab a few customization kits on FW if you want some variety, or tear some bits off your old troops. They're all sized so you can interchange most of the bits besides arms, legs, and maybe chest.

It occurs to me that if GW were trying to rescale space marines, why are the plague marines still old-size? Maybe they really do just want to make numarines an extra unit

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>>53400168

>>53400198
>As in not getting any models this year.
Wouldn't surprise, but I'd like a link to confirm myself so I can mess with SoB players later.

As a long time Necron player, a big part of me has always wanted a Pylon, but another big part of me doesn't want to sink £100 on a fucking gun emplacement.

What do?

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What is the appeal of the Hrud as a playable army beyond muh space skaven

They were cool as a disposable bit of fluff in Xenology but do they really need to be playable?

Genuinely curious here

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>>53400168

>>53400185
Nice meme but that's not a source asshole

>>53400238
Rubrics are truescale I think, so who knows,

>>53399787
They look so stiff, like they've never flew before and can't relax.

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>>53400168

>>53400253
Another question, why would Hrud EVER have priority over Exodites except to explain the whole "why there's no MK9 Armor" thing. Exodites would SELL like fucking flapjacks and I'd be one of the first suckers in line.

>>53399906
So is the Captain's Gravis armor supposed to be NuTerminator armor or NuArtificer armor?

>>53400051
You're REALLY out of the loop, aren't you? Go to the warhammer community site and read all their articles, they're teasing information on 8th daily. Today we got the official release date of June 17th, along with the information on how data will be released. All current models will have updated rules available come release day. Tau will be found in the Xenos 2 book alongside Orks, GSC and Nids. Farsight Enclaves are likely going to be a Tau sub-faction, and EVERYONE is getting subfactions now, so I see no reason why that wouldn't be available at launch as well.

>>53400246
It was a Skype call and email exchange.
Also they are focusing in new units instead of updating old shit.
Hence the new Xeno army.

They basically don't see a problem with selling decade old models

>>53400268
I don't think they are, they're just standing up properly

>>53400272
>They look so stiff, like they've never flew before and can't relax.
It would really confirm >>53399810 in the sense that these noobs have no idea what they're doing.

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>>53400168

yes

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>>53399814
Rak'gol! Nuclear Cthulhu monsters!

>>53400309
Which is not something I would want to put onto a battlefield, even a miniature make-believe one. It's a really shitty pose that kills the model.

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>>53399998
>being that thirsty for salt
>being off by 1

Do you think I'll be able to run a squad of nu-marines with a "veteran old marine" model as the squad sergeant in the new edition?

>>53400230
Yeah I'm aware of that, I meant variation among new bits. As in, one helmet is Mk. X with a mouth grill akin to Mk. VII, one is a flat plate, etc.

The SM tactical squad kit has loads of variety. These guys, based on these snap fit models, are all the same aside from the Sergeant who has a skull on his forehead and a notch in his gorget.

Again, I expect we'll see more variety when they release a non-snapfit kit for Primaris Intercessors, which will probably be a dual kit that one can also construct "Hellblasters" with.

>>53399914
So how will we know what units are regular dudes and which are Primaris? Will people have to keep buying mini marines or will Space Marines just all become Primaris in the future?

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>>53400168
Perfection.

>>53400353
General conspiracy consensus holds that smaller marines will be gradually phased out

>>53400253
All said and done I personally think she is just trying to build hype. The bitch is sweet talking too much so my third world sense are tingling

>>53400079
>remove hood
>leave gorget
>remove jetpack
>add old jump pack, possibly sized up a little to match

I swear to god I'll cad model a scaled up jump pack, get it SLS printed, and resin cast one for every damn jump marine if I have to.

>>53400301
>It was a Skype call and email exchange.
>Also they are focusing in new units instead of updating old shit.
So you've got nothing concrete except a skype call/email exchange, that unless there's concrete evidence of, is about as useful as giving a guardsman with an Ork shoota.

>>53400253
>>53400286
Hrud lore, what there is of it, is cool as fuck.

They have advanced technology and sapience. They move in "migrations" that are basically phase-teleportation with infinite range. When they show up to a world they can arrive without warning and invade the whole thing up from the sewers.

They have great myths about once being beautiful and having been cast down by their god's and one day being able to grasp their former glory.

They're weird and weird is fun.

Exodites is just happy eldar with dinosaurs and they never leave their exodite world's.

>>53400287
I really hope it is the new artificer armor

>>53400087
there are none. it's been retconned to only 4 gods but we used to have 4 lesser gods (fuck no you are not a god be'lakor)

>>53400397
Indeed.

But are you going to ignore another NuMarine situation?

An anon posted picture of NuMarines months in advance and here we are with kitten marines.

GW has fucked over SA store in the past so I hardly trust her with information outside of her job

>>53400387
In before they'll somehow still look like hovering centurions

>>53400397
>>Also they are focusing in new units instead of updating old shit.
>Rubrics just got updated
>Plague marines about to get plastic kit
>"Not updating old shit"

top kek

>>53400425
fine, but what would they bring to the table? what would they add to the game that we haven't seen?

>>53400447
>"Not updating old shit"

They're only updating old good things!

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>>53399814
D E M I U R G

>>53399998
Nice almost get.

Is this pasta?

>>53399787
Love the armor but the pose is stupid and so are the guns. The shield gun idea doesn't work on a flying dual wielding dude, it would be a better concept for some sort of siege infantry.

>>53400459
Fuck if I know.

A cool army that isn't more space marines?

>>53400447
After the 8th release, for them the DG models are consider new army.

GW internal working seems like a giagantic clusterfuck. I had to demand one persona to deal with us, because they had multiple people talking to me and all give me contradicting information

What models would you guys like to see truescaled next?

>>53400528
cultist

>>53400528
Imperial Guard.

>>53400013
He'd obviously go with Dakka, he's a man of taste. Extra Dakka is just overboard.

>>53400459
One big thing about Hrud in the fluff is their entropic fields.

In game this could mean that a Hrud army debuffs the enemy army, becoming more intense as the game goes on, wearing the enemy forces down at an increasing pace. Playing against it should mean thinning out the numbers and disabling key tech quick enough before your army crumbles into dust.

>>53400528
Guardsmen or Orks.

Their models are strange looking when compared to other models

>>53400485
Made it up on the spot
It does kinda look like pasta, but it would read better if it was.

>>53400528
Custodes. I refuse to allow my bananamen to be shorter than mere Space Marines.

Wait... are primaris marines what they meant when they said they were making a new faction?

My friend wants to go halves in the new starter set but im not sure i like the whole nurgle side. They are a bit gross but the marine side is so boring

>>53400528
Daemonettes. Because what 40k really needs is proper sexy daemonic boobs, cleavage, and ass.

>But the bloodthirster has some hot bo-

NO I said proper ass, not Dark Angel bait.

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>>53399814
snotling army.

>>53399814
Fuck that, I would revamp all existing factions to not be shit

>Imperium divided into Space Marines, IG, Admech, Ecclesiarchy, and Inquisition forces
>Ecclesiarchy it's own army led by the Sororitas who are heavy and elite troop choices for them, similar to Stormtroopers in the guard
>Inquisition is basically able to take elites and special units from all the other armies, such as deathwatch, Sororitas, Stormtroopers, grey knights etc with weak basic units

>Orks divided into Speedfreeks, Lootas, Goffs and Freeboota armies

>Tyranids no longer suck

>Chaos divided into Traitor, CSM, and cult/demon armies

>Tau divided into Sept and Farsight Enclave armies
>Less fucking Mecha, more auxiliaries and alien mercenaries

>I like nucrons fuck you

>>53400067
It might confuse the new target demographic of mentally handicapped 9 year olds.

>>53400570
when did they ever say this?

>>53400557
Really the issue with the Custodes is that they're way too squat. Their legs are too short and thick. making them look stocky.

They should look more elegant. Each Custode is supposed to be a work of art regarding genetic engineering; making their legs longer and a bit more slender would make them look more elegant, better conveying their nature.

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>>53400006
>2004
Earlier than that. 1997.

>>53400576
then tell your friendo sorry, and get a get started of the army you do find that you like

>>53400570
Nop, we will get a new Xeno race. It is not related to current armies.

>>53400598
>>I like nucrons fuck
Poor taste

>>53400618
Say what you will, but most of the models from that time had a lot more character to them than the bland shit GW makes today.

>>53399814
Dogs of War army that includes mercenaries from various races such as Ork Freeboota, Kroot, Humans, Hrud, Eldar corsairs etc

Low morale, high cost, but loads of flexibility and lots of dirty tricks

>>53400618
Holy fuck! What was the 2004 release then?

>>53400576
>Nurgle is a bit gross
Imagine that

>>53400616
Somehow I feel like we'll only get new Custodes models if Forge World makes them for HH.

>>53400653
i would immediatly buy a entire army of this

>>53400658
Newer stuff like the canoness, repentia etc. I assume

>>53400658
Just their 3rd edition codex and a few new things like Repentia.

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>>53400576
>They are a bit gross

>>53400589
Why do people keep saying Dark Angels are gay?! Having sex with men doesn't necessarily make you gay.

Imagine if you spent hundreds of years in your fortress monastery surrounded by huge hulking men, imagine sitting shoulder to shoulder with these guys during your armor oiling rituals or huddling up with them in a drop pod. Of course you're eventually going to give in to your urges. That doesn't make them gay, they are merely rending comfort to their brothers in arms like any good friend would do.

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>>53400721
>Having sex with men doesn't necessarily make you gay.

By the power of Greyskull! Back to /b/!!!!!!

>>53400290
Completely loopless it seems. So is this a new approach with lumping xeno factions into a single book? Its nice to know though that i can jumo right into it so soon though, thanks for entertaining my ignorance!

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>>53400387
>>53400447

40K hours in paint.net

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>>53400677
That way lies heartache and zero support from GW.

>>53400644
>Say what you will, but most of the models from that time had a lot more nostalgia to them than the bland shit GW makes today.

Fixed

>>53399814

Kroot. They deserve their own shit far from blueberries

>>53400752
still no good

>>53400721
This is the most Dark angels Post I've ever read

>>53400765
too late, im already excited and i have the funds set aside for a new army this summer.
what would you guys say to a player who brought an IG ruled army, but infantry was a mix or human, orc and kroot, but all rifles just count as lasguns, and any flamer, metla,plasma was still that gun, so you could easily tell. rough riders be kroots on lizard mounts, all the tanks would resemble the tank they were supposed to be, but with wielded bits of tau or eldar pieces on them. a real mercenary army

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>>53400721
>Having sex with men doesn't necessarily make you gay.

>>53400814
Be total radical.
I'd play.

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>>53400765
>Dave Gallagher will never again draw gritty empire soldiers

Right in the fucking feels

>>53400576
Tell him you're not interested in Nurgle, don't want to go through the hassle of reselling it, and also that you think less of him for his poor taste in miniatures.

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>>53400644
>>53400618
I've given up on plastic, just waiting on my resin to get here.

>>53400752
I think it's better.

Although, what if we added the old-old jump pack.

>>53400546
>>53400541
As long as they don't make all my kriegers become manlets then yeah guard

>>53400855
These look good.

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>>53400855
>using cheesecake-tier shit

>>53400643
>I like old Ahriman.

>>53400882
>cheesecake
I don't know what that means.

>>53400855
Those have a nice Darksiders look to them. I really like the middle one's hair.

>>53400882
The sisters are pretty tame. Its the elves that are resin porn.

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>>53400752

I think they would look better with a big ol' MKIV jump pack.

Will S3 power swords be better or worse in 8th?

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8th Edition hype has got it's hooks into me. Thinking about dusting off my old IG models and returning to the table with a mechanized Guard regiment. But I don't want to pay typical GW prices.

Aside from tournaments, how badly would your typical 40k player sperg out on me if I showed up to the table with pic related as Chimeras?

>>53400882
>cheesecake-tier
They're mostly wearing helmets.

>>53400889
It means he finds them beautiful.

>>53400903
ill tell you after the rulebook comes out

>>53400882
>cheesecake
I don't think you know what that means.

They are closer to pin ups than cheesecake.

>>53400911
are they the sameish size as chimeras? of course i prefer people to have nice looking stuff, but im okay with proxys as long as you are at least trying to keep them the same size.

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>>53400814
Would absolutely allow at my table.

>>53400882
>using shit-tier bait

>>53399814
Rak'Gol, for the love of god Rak'Gol. They have just as much of a powerbase as the Tau and have a connection to the Warp and Chaos that GW can masturbate over.

Also they're AESTHETIC as fuck.

>>53400327
This is just spitballing here.

But the jets on their back are facing the same way that their legs are.
Maybe they shift the thrusters with their legs and throttle with their feet.
Would explain why they have such a splayed pose as though they're trying to stand on foot-jets.

If they actually bring out primaris assault marines, they'll make a good distinction between boosters on the back to push in a straight line, forwards for the emperor, and the wider ones for stability and mobility.

Also, less likely but maybe it'll happen with the non-clip-togethers, but the boosters and legs might be swivel-able so you can fix the pose yourself.

>>53400932
That's the intent - yes.

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>>53399998

>mfw shitters who left 7th ed for Infinity

>>53400882
They sold a ton of them. I'm really surprised that GW didn't take note and try and revamp sisters to cash in on all the demand.

They might be cheasecake, but it beats the old fugly metal ones.

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>>53400901
>>53400912

It's the hyper exaggerated hips, comic book poses, and combat high heels that kill it for me.

>>53400920
It's still not what SoB should be, though.

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>>53400840
>Graham Mcneil will never again write a codex or novel
>Adrian Smith will never again paint amazing Chaos Warriors
>I will never castrate Phil Kelly and forcefeed him his own scrotum

>>53400932
>>53400942
Actually I just got out the ruler and measured the BMP model vs the Chimera and the BMP is bigger by about an inch in both length and width.

>>53400977
>hyper exaggerated hips, comic book poses, and combat high heels
So Saint Celestine?

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>>53400961

I wish pic related was easier to get. Besides the superior's, they're basically perfect.

I'm not buying the Hrud thing right now
If that guy is around, leak what releases for Tau this year and then lets see

On one hand i want the blood angels to be squatted so that the nids get a cool vicotry on their records on the other hand i want the to not die so i can continue to play them.

>>53401007
What Hrud thing?

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>>53400961
How's Grishnak doing sales-wise? They should be fucking rich with how good their totally-not-Sisters look, at least on their advertisement. If I played SoB I'd absolutely buy some of these since GW seems to just not want their customers' money.

>>53400941
Aesthetic > Logic.
Fuck you.

>>53400977
>inb4 nu games workshop sisters are breastless ladymen.

Would still buy
Would still fuck
But the sjw pandering would kill it for me.

>>53400977
>combat high heels
That was the nig killer for me. I changed a lot of my model selection at the last minute because of the high heels.

Still. Trying to think of ways to fix them other than just having the models ankle deep in mud.

>>53401005
How are they not getting C&D'd into oblivion?

>>53400977
Wait dont they specifically have to look like females?

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>>53400879
>>53400899
Ya, I like Raging Heroes' aesthetic for their sisters

>>53400882
As opposed to GW sisters? about the same just less man face.
>>53400977
Okay I see your point to some degree.

>>53400912
I believe the kit will come with a full set for helmets or hoods

>>53401036
How are you supposed to intimidate a guardsman if you can't even look him in the eye?

>>53401036
>Still. Trying to think of ways to fix them other than just having the models ankle deep in mud.
Greenstuff should be easy enough. Just lop off the heel and the tip of the foot, glue the foot on properly so it doesn't look like it's bent to stand on heels, and greenstuff the gap. If that fails just make whole new feet out of GS and hide any errors with basing.

>>53401005
>>53401021
Never saw them before. Only stumbled across the raging heroes one because I'm a kick starter addict.

I grabbed a bunch of those repentia and the penitent engine.

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>>53401002

Yes. I actually don't like the new model and haven't bought it (partially because it's the most expensive part of the kit). The Seraphim have a serious case of monkey face.

>>53401035

They don't have to be breastless, especially since I always assumed the boob plate was an exaggeration because "lol no men at arms" deal.

>>53401065
Pic related

>>53401049
Because Russia probably

>>53401080
>huge hips
>huge tits
>no helmets
>kawaii faces

I really don't see how that image does anything differently than the Raging Heroes models.

>>53401065
I was thinking I'd keep the heels on the seraphim since they don't actually need to walk.

>>53400168
EXACTLY
THATS EXACTLY IT
fuck that looks retarded

>>53399814
Faction I already kinda-sorta made for Rogue Trader: The Rajak Empire.

>Hyper-territorial microempire on the Eastern Fringe
>Extremely large and strong (~9ft tall, roughly as strong as an Ogryn), long-lived mammals that have vaguely Elephantine features, like tusks and a short trunk (really more of an overgrown prehensile nose). They are equally intelligent as humans, but social norms make them extremely prone to violence, materialism, and rigid social norms regarding Rajak behavior. Believe they are the sole inheritors of the galaxy, and all other races exist purely to serve them as slave races.
>Though females are slightly stronger and larger than males, there are virtually no dimorphic characteristics to an untrained eye (save when females are nursing, but they are never in combat when nursing). Gestation period of the female is roughly ~2 Terran years, and births are overwhelmingly single birth (twins are rare and considered extremely blessed). As such, females traditionally serve as "home guard" units while males engaging in raiding for slaves and plunder - though female soldiers are not unheard of.
>Rajak society values three things - soldiers, slaves, and progeny. Their entire society is built on the backs of human slaves, who run the day to day affairs of keeping their infrastructure and complex trade systems running. Though slavery can be brutal, it can also be a perverted blessing - the slave of a Rajak holds the same rank (though obviously modified) in society as his master, as he is considered an direct extension of his master. This means that a slave of a tribal chief in effect "speaks" for his master, and disrespecting him is considered equal to disrespecting the tribal chief himself. Whatever privileges he may enjoy in society, however, are 100% up to his master, and may be immediately revoked should his master deem it fit.

Cont.

>>53400253

Remember Tau used to be a minor footnote as well and then they became one of the top 3 selling factions

>>53401080
Do commisar outrank the SoB or what? Wouldn't she just be killed for harming an officer.

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>>53401102
That was just a relevant pic I had for the guy I quoted. I wouldn't want the models looking like that.

Check My Math, TG! This assumes that the units still have the same/similar attacks, strength, wounds, and armor-peircing equivalence in close combat.

20 Genestealers vs 3 Flamer Crises Suits and 10 Drones
First Turn for Genestealers
Genies Charge into overwatch
Eat 9D6 S4 AP- shots=31.5 autohits
31.5 autohits =>15.75 wounds=>10.5 unsaved wounds
10 genestealer attacks on the charge =>40 attacks with flurry of claws.
40 attacks =>33.33 hits=>16.67 wounds; 11.11 regular wounds, 5.55 AP-4 wounds
11.11 wounds=>4 unsaved wounds
9 wounds!

Wait...

...Savior Protocol...

Ignoring Tau CC, all but one of the Drones disappear and the Crises Suits jump backwards and with the fly special rule can shoot again...

Fuuuuuck!

>>53401141
I doubt any member of the guard outranks sisters

>>53400576
Unless he particularly wants something from the new, you can probably still pick up a Dark Vengeance.

You wont get the new rulebook, but you'll have models, measuring things, if you wanna play old rulesets scatter dice etc.

So I got some eldar corsairs. Any word yet on how FW armylists are going to work in 8th?

>>53401141
She's rocking an =][=, I think she's higher up the chain.

>>53401146
No because you want your sisters to be less feminine and so you should really just play Dark Angels.

>>53401141
SOB are pretty much the inquisition's army. Hell they executed Goge Vandire.

>>53401141
separate organizations. if she's a cannoness she outranks him. also it's silly to be sassing a woman in power armor with at least if not more battle experience who is known for being a zealot

>>53401080
>-1 Str
She's wearing power armor! I'm pretty sure the strength is pretty irrelevant, here!

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>>53401073
Hopefully with the melee buff Repentia will be good, I want to use them.

>>53401147
Wouldn't the remaining models get reamed in Morale?

>>53401073
>kickstarter addict

I also like to flush money down the toilet

I'm glad we finally have a starter box with a loyalist force.

>>53400750
My understanding is that it's basically just datasheets. Even costs are separate.

There'll be a proper codex for stuff later, but this is just to get everyone up and on the field with the new edition.

>>53400752
That looks a ton better.
It's probably still a little over sized, but it removes the vast majority of the issues I had with it.

>>53400983
Eh, Kelly's alright. He's no Cruddace or Ward.

>>53401209
No, because the Drones are a seperate unit. So the leadership check is confined to the single drone. Admittedly, it will probably disappear. Unfortunately, that is completely irrelevant because now the Genestealers have to eat the flamers again in shooting, then AGAIN in overwatch. By that point, they are D.E.D.

>>53399998
>implying GW could really harm to any other miniature wargame

>>53401222
Wat

Practically every starter has been space marines vs thing

>>53401146
Fair enough I guess.

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>>53401256
Kelly is not and has never been alright and I will fight you for insulting Cruddace-sama and Ward-kun

>>53400590
>Each individual unit is a group of ten snotlings
>You need like ten units to match up to a single basic unit
>There is nothing else besides the basic group of snotlings
>Buy models

>>53401049
Because >>53401089

And now the wall is down, the Marxists frown
There’s foreign shops all over town
When in Red Square, well don’t despair
There’s Levi’s and McDonald’s there
The US gave us crystal meth
And Yeltsin drank himself to death
But now that Putin’s put the boot in,
Who’ll get in our way?

So we reject free enterprise
And once again the left will rise.
Prepare the flags to be unfurled
For we’re seceding from the world:
We shall regain the Georgian soil
We shall obtain the Arctic oil
We shall arrange the blocks and toil
Forever and a day

>had a dream that Matt Ward was giving Boreale's speech to the Ultramarines
what does it mean

>>53401132
>Over 70% of Rajak are born with a modified form of the Pariah gene, granting them partial (though far from complete) immunity to psychic powers and Warp-taint. 10% of the population are born with a complete form of the Pariah gene (near identical to human, in fact) and they are inducted into the religious caste known only as the Nebukkad. Their powers are harness and trained through decades of training into a living anti-psychic weapon, and their religious authority is near-absolute throughout the various Tribes. Facing one on the battlefield is rare, but an almost universally terrifying experience. Of the remaining percentage of Rajak that are born with no Pariah gene, no information is known - their very existence is only hinted at by captured slave-midwives and former slaves to Nebukkad priests, and has never been verified.
>From a tactical standpoint, Rajak are swift, brutal, and direct in their application of warfare. While new recruits in each Tribe must prove their value to the Tribe by fighting in highly-ritualized assault squads known as "Unblooded," a Rajak assault is typically heralded by a extreme-range bombardment by ordinance, the direct insertion of combat squads via gunship or anti-grav tanks in enemy weak points, and the ruthless, point-blank assault that sweeps aside enemy positions in fusillades of high-caliber firepower and explosives. Though relentless and heavily armored, their assaults can be out-maneuvered, than their numbers are almost always few - as such, they rarely engage in drawn-out wars of attrition and even more rarely attack numerically superior foes without victory being a near certainty.
>Their technology is brutally functional, but far from crude. The primary weapons are "Kinetic Weapons" that fire a large-caliber slug at extremely high velocities, capable of punching through even Carapace armor with ease. However, their relatively short range and small magazine greatly hinders them at fighting long-range engagements.

>>53401035
Greyfax has killer hips, slim waist and power heels. I doubt any SJW pandering is going on at GW

>>53401263
Oh I thought they were drones taken in the Crisis unit.

In that case you were just a retard for not directing enough attacks to wipe the Crisis and instead attacking the Drones.

>>53400814
I'd be kind of annoyed because I think its a dumb idea but as long as you didn't try to homebrew any rules and the models were reasonably close I'd play you.

>>53401316
>Greyfax has killer hips, slim waist and power heels.
And Sherlock model.

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>>53401049
because it's not like GW has made plastic sisters

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>>53399807

>>53400991
in that case, I'd tell you to get some real chimeras. Conversions are cool, entire 3rd party minis and proxys are annoying.

>>53401340
>dev favourite
There is only one person that ensures this continues.

>>53401277
Dark Angels joke, anon.

>>53401359
K

>>53401316
Because SJW only care about male only things. Hence why female marines are demanded in other medias. All boys club is a huge No for this people.

They got all upset about a girl being denied entry to the Boy Scouts, but when a boy asked to be in the Girl Scouts they simply told him to fuck off.

Why couldn't they just make the Primaris Marines MK IX armor? Why did they just have to have papa smurf secretly jerk off into vats in lab on mars?

>>53401175
Xenos fw indexes are released before the end of June

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>>53401327
The genestealers don't have a choice it's a drone ability

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Basically I have to buy 2 books even though I only play orks.

>>53401409
What other book do you need if you just play orks?

>>53401327
What do you mean? The Drones (can be any type. I'd take snipers to shoot characters but whatever they are they are not participating in combat unless you choose to consolidate into them) are sitting 3" behind the Crises suits which are in a line, in what is otherwise a 1v2. The Genestealers are exclusively attacking the Crises suits, but the new Savior Protocal works to save any unit within 3" of the drones.

I mean, you can try to charge around the suits? Or consolidate into the drones, but no matter what you do all your unsaved wounds are gunna be eaten by the drones. Both are T4 after all. Maybe you'd get 1 or 2 more unsaved wounds if you target the drones exclusively after consolidation, but the Tau suits are still jumping out and flaming you a second time, then a third.

>>53401409
Why? You only need Xenos 2

>>53401392
SJWs hate 2 things: Males and attractive women.
If GW were at all inclined to listen to them, we'd have female space marines and completely unfeminine, non-sexualised female warriors, neither of which exist.

>>53401425
Fortification are in Imperium 2. Chaos and Orks armies are a thing too.

>>53400557

They are not shorter than primaris marines

>>53401409
You only need index: Xenos 2. The General Handbook is an online PDF. Your good, bro!

>>53401132
>>53401313
>When it comes to armor, Rajak rarely - if ever - leave home without it. Their carapace armor is environmentally sealed and replete with tactical information systems a Rajak might need, and the veteran Sikari units are armed in self-powered armor that grants them durability on par with even a Space Marine. In addition, they also have displayed on occasion a suit known only as "Bhari" armor, roughly analogous to Terminator armor, used in wielding heavy weapons in tight confines and fighting in hazardous environments. However, these suits do not often fit into the "strike fast, punch hard, get out" mentality of a Rajak raid, and are usually only deployed in pitched engagements.
>The leaders of the various Tribes and sub-Tribes are known as the Veshtet. Through some unknown method, these warriors appear to have been grafted with an additional set of powerful arms (though rumors abound of some Rajak being naturally born with them), and they fight almost exclusively with the traditional Rajak melee weapons. The word of a Veshtet is viewed as absolute law, and disobedience - form anybody save a Nebukkad - is punishable by immediate execution. They lead raids from the front, picking out enemy champions to duel and prove their power and strength while their subordinates plunder and pillage everything not nailed down.
>Stylistic themes are predominantly Indian/Mughal, with Babylonian themes on the Nebukkads and other religious figures.
>They hate Eldar. A LOT. The reason for this hatred is unknown, but what is known is that Rajak will plan for years in advance just to inflict a minor wound in an Eldar holding. Eldar slaves - that survive - are viewed as being the most valuable slaves of all, and entire kingdoms have been won in the sale of a handful of captured Eldar.
>Psykers are not tolerated by the Rajak in any capacity, and are actively hunted down by the Nebukkads to be taken as slaves. What happens once they are captured is unknown.

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I got a Dark Vengeance box to get started with learning to painting and collect a few initial.

Can I field Crimson Slaughter from Dark Vengeance with Death Guard from new edition as one army or allies? I may pick up the Dark Imperium box since I need all the other shit + Codex anyway.

Was going to play Imperium but Chaos is looking pretty neat.

>>53401440
Well I need Imperium 2 for guard anyway but do you have a source on that? it's not listed in the image. Though most fortifications are Imperial themed.

>>53400934
>When guiliman sees his new marines are half the starter.

>>53401316
greyfax is such a treasure

Titplate, corset, skull pauldrons, skull knees, power heels and a crossbolter. 10/10. Hopefully they do a xenos and malleus inquisitor soon.

>>53401141

Unless that commissar is a lord with some serious clout (AKA has a fucking ork power claw) he's way down the chain from a sisters canoness

To the guard, the sisters are nearly on the same level as marines

>>53401141
SoB are not subject to Guard chain of command, and therefore not under authority of Commissariat.
Commissar in pic would be liable for penance for offending a member of the Ecclesiarchy.

Not sure if posted yet, but my LGS at least is getting a demo copy on the 3rd, and are at least offered a full set of codexes--unsure if he accepted that particular, because gee dubs tends to demand enough pre-orders to bankrupt some stores for such a perk. Just letting everyone know to expect leaks from many many places at once on the preorder date.

>>53401495
Your fine, they will both be chaos and easy to take together. There may be benefits to an all Death Guard army but they should be an Elite choice for a standard warband.

Even the loyalists in those two boxes cold be made into stand-ins for normal chaos marines.

>>53401141
SoB for the common guardsmen are like mini Angels.

Rank wise the Canonness is above the Commissar.


Also those two are now going to make more orphan children for the Schola if you know what I mean.

>>53401164
Different heirarchy. Sisters can't order guard around and guard can't order sisters around unless there's some kind of agreement between their higher ups.

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>>53401080
>female power fantasy

>>53401504
shadow sun should be on par with farsight
she did vaporise the white scars chapter master.
Also puretide should be mega-elite tier
He makes farsight and shadowsun look like shit
Darkstrider should be good-tier
Inquisitor Solomon Lok should be Great-tier

>>53401524
>Female xenos inquisitor
>Long cloak with hood
>Assassin style black bodysuit underneath, straps everywhere for wargear, thigh high boots
>Hood up with cloak clinging to booty
>Xenotech pistol or sword

I wish I could sculpt, I need this yesterday

>>53401430
In that case you charge the Drones and consolidate into the Suits. That way, you never get overwatched with the flamer in the first place. There doesn't seem to be a rule that gives them linked overwatch.

>>53401628
>That way, you never get overwatched with the flamer in the first place
oh, you sweet summer child

>>53401628
Tau will have supporting fire again
and if the drones are within 3", supporting fire is guaranteed for the suits. Sure you could charge the drones and then consolidate, but then the suits will get a second overwatch on them, killing even more genestealers

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Alright /40kg/, I've been thinking about buying the new starter set and painting the model same as on the cover. Is this good or wank?

>>53401613
She didn't vaporise the White Scars Great Khan, she got the commander of the Raven Guard

>>53401628
Maybe? We'll need to hope the Genestealer's Deep Strike rule is flexible enough, and that the enemy's deployment is stupid enough, that that doesn't happen.

Also, pray with me that the "For the Greater Good" rule, whatever it is, isn't the new linked overwatch rule.

>>53401668
so you mean... you plan on painting them as ultramarines...?
No, you're not allowed to do that
just kidding do whatever you want they're your models

>>53401668
>No whippy measuring sticks

This is not the warhammer 40,000 I used to know and love.

>>53401628
Aren't the drones part of the same unit?

>>53401668
It seems like a really good. I might just get it for the primaris for my Blood Angels and i dont know what imma do with the Death Gaurd

>>53401659
Let us also prey that overwatch doesn't trigger on consolidation.

Let's also ALSO prey that the Tau don't get a special rule ignoring the rule that overwatch doesn't trigger on consolidation. Because if there's one thing Tau are good at it's ignoring rules.

>>53401533
The commissariat is deliberately outside the imperial guard chain of command as well. They answer directly to the munitorum.

Mind as both are graduates of the schola progenium, commissars and sisters of battle would work together considerably better than most imperial organizations. They serve the imperium before their own interests.

The only real conflict of interest would happen if an ecclesiarch went nuts again and the sisters didn't catch on immediately.

Which traitor legion is the edgiest?

>>53401681
I'm not even sure why they bothered to make those pieces of shit. Worthless bendy red garbage.

>>53401681
>Periodically interrupting play to whip each other on the arm and see who could leave the biggest welts

Ahh to be 12 again

>>53401685
If you scroll way, way, WAY back up, you'll see I said we were taking the drones and the Crises suits as separate units. I will also take this moment to rectify a typo: The Tau only take sniper drones in packs of 9 now. No matter given that the 40 genestealers only managed 9 unsaved wounds anyways, this does not matter.

>>53401707
Nightlords. They have the whole darkness theme, cover themselves in lightning bolts, and are all about wearing people's skin. They even have the cursed visions of the future that they can't do anything about trope.

>>53401617
Had you try wargame exclusive or brother vinni?

>>53401659
>Tau will have supporting fire again
Citation needed, I don't think they will and it's not brought up in the faction focus except as a reference to currant rules.

>>53401685
No they are using Savior Protocols see >>53401404

>>53401669
apologies, chapter master of the raven guard

>>53401200
>he doesn't know the -4Str meme

>>53401724
Honestly it was an image that just materialised in my head as I wrote it

>>53399906
BUT /TG/ TOLD ME THE PLAGUE MARINES WERE GOING TO BE AS BIG AS THE CHAD MARINES

>>53401696
Yeah tau love ignoring rules, hopefully they are a bit better balanced this edition
>>53401730
>citation needed
It's one of their most unique/famous rules alongside markerlights and jsj, it was included in SWA so I don't think it's going away.
Also the pic from the sniper drones has the rule "for the greater good", sounds like that could be the new name for supporting fire

>>53401772
/tg/ made shit up anon. That's what /tg/ does.

>>53401730
From the faction focus article:
"Multiple Crisis Suit units also work well together since supporting fire is still around"

>>53401792
"Those that do survive the fusillade to cross the battlefield must withstand the T’au’s other shooting phase, otherwise known as Supporting Fire with overwatch."
"Multiple Crisis Suit units also work well together since supporting fire is still around, now called “For the Greater Good.”"

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>>53401191
>tfw we'll never get rules/models for Alicia and crew like HH primarchs

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>>53401772

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>>53401745
No everyone can remember the before times

>>53401826
They were just bolter bitches.
Primarchs only warranted different stats because they were fundamentally different from space marines.

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>>53401392
>>53401432
Don't have to be an SJW to want more options. FeMarines would satisfy people who don't like titplate and they can keep doing their thing with SoB for people who are into that sort of thing.

Doesn't even need models, just some fluff that opens it up for conversions.

It's pretty obvious the numarine jump troops have grav-based packs and can drop from orbit, hence the impact boots.

Notice the lack of air inport for a jet engine?

>>53401455
Are they not? I obviously don't have any to physically compare, but all the comparison images I've seen have them being slightly shorter than the Primaris dudes.

>>53401745
Oh I'm aware of it. But parodying a meme that is nullified by logic as simple as "Powered Suit, idiot" makes you, well, an idiot. Especially an old meme.

>>53401853
0/10 No mustache. Would not fuck.

What YouTube channels are good for 40k content other than battle reports? The only found one I found and liked is LeakyCheese.

>>53401874
Vaults of Terra for lore.
Eons of Battle(dead channel) for painting/basing tutorials.

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>>53401849
>fundamentally different from space marines
well, not really

For starters they began as space marines, but even in the current fluff the space marines are 100% based on primarch biology.

Primarchs warranted rules and models because they're super cool

>>53401792
Fuck missed that

>>53401780
>It's one of their most unique/famous rules
I remember when that was basic guns with S5 30" range and battle suits that could pop in and out of cover. God damn feature creep, we'll have to see exactly how the new version shakes out.

>>53401849
>just bolter bitches
Except they were all living saints after they went into Big E's throne room.

>>53401853
Fuck off back to tumblr. Marines have been male since forever, the geneseed is incompatible with female bodies. Changing it now just to appease SJWs and fetishists would completely nuke the fluff.

>>53401899
>Muh Tumblr boogeyman

>>53401862
They're a bit shorter in that their eyes are below that of a Primaris, but their overcompensation head gear puts them as seemingly taller and their fat ass pauldrons make them much wider.

Captain Prime Beef dwarfs them though.

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What do we know about post-heresy Angron?

>>53401929
Grey Knights fucked him up at Armageddon.

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Taking it from the top!
The following assumes that the units still have the same/similar attacks, strength, wounds, and armor-peircing equivalence in close combat. For the sake of leniancy all attacks and wounds are rounded IN FAVOR of the Genestealers and Tau CC is ignored.

20 Genestealers vs 3 Flamer Crises Suits and 9 Sniper Drones The Crises suits are deployed in a line
> - - -
and the drones are deployed 3" behind the center in a tight cluster
>;;';;
to avoid being targeted by melee or ranged units, taking advantage of the sniper drone feild rule for further discouragment.

First Turn for Genestealers
Genies Charge into overwatch
Eat 9D6 S4 AP- shots=31.5 autohits
31.5 autohits =>15.75 wounds=>10.5 unsaved wounds
10 genestealer attacks on the charge =>40 attacks with flurry of claws.
40 attacks =>33.33 hits=>16.67 wounds; 11.11 regular wounds, 5.55 AP-4 wounds
11.11 wounds=>4 unsaved wounds
9 wounds!

Wait...

...Savior Protocol...

Ignoring Tau CC, all but one of the Drones disappear and the Crises Suits jump backwards and with the fly special rule can shoot at no penalty. Also, they can still overwatch.

How much will mew starter be?

Where online do you think will be best to preorder? Lgs does no gw.

>>53401920
>boogeyman
Nah, just the place you have to go back to.

>>53401899
No him and I could care less about GW making fem marines but locking the gene seed to the Y chromosome is a ridiculous piece of fluff that do do no harm to the lore to get rid of.

>>53401961
Same as the Age of Sigmar starter.

>>53401955
>killed all but 13
>took a deus ex machina to break his sword
>still destroyed their commander with his bare fists
Did your mom never tell you dishonesty was bad?

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>>53401677
desu I'm not particularly interested in ultrasmurfs, don't really like the gold trims as it mutes the colours. 3rd company ultra make me fucking hard tho

>>53401965
>is a ridiculous piece of fluff that do do no harm to the lore to get rid of.

Except obliterate the monastic and knightly themes of the Space Marines.

>>53401929
Big.
Red.
Angry.

That's about it.

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>>53401681
I know, it's sickening. I'll miss whacking my opponent in the face with them

>>53399807
>a decade
It's nearly two decades

>>53401965
Well if they wanted to do that they'd have to turn the Emperor into a woman too, since he's a guy and all that and used his own DNA to create the primarchs.

>>53401984
>>killed all but 13

Angron hardly killed any. Most of the damage was done by his Bloodthirsters and the Daemon horde.

>>still destroyed their commander with his bare fists

He still had his sword, it just wasn't full length.

>>53401965
So you're assmad the space marines aren't gender-diverse enough. Got it.

On another note, I heard about this amazing places called tumblr and reddit. I think you'd fit right in.

>>53401984
Different Anon; I've never read the Armageddon Lore, but it IS possible to be fucked up and still fuck up the other guy worse.

Like, you get bitten by a viper, and in retaliation you stop it's head in and grab an antitoxin you had on hand (because IDK you were studying it in a lab or something! Maybe you were even trying to milk the thing to make more antitoxin).

Yea, you'll live. But you probably won't want to try it again.

>>53401690
I was thinking of returning to Blood angels for 8th edition but I'm planning a 30k BA army so I don't really want to be painting the same colours again. I was thinking of doing lamenters but they are a bitch to paint. Crimson Fists will always be my backup

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>>53401958
>Theoryhammering when the edition's not even out yet