Faction Focus: Death Guard

>>53393189
>blight launcher

Does this confirm that a DG proper box set is coming? Because I don't see anything that could fit that description on the models shown so far. I also wonder if it's gonna be like the Grave Warden launcher and available for terminators. That'd mean Grave Wardens are fully usable in 40k.

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>>53393424

*Cough*

Mid row far right.

*Cough*

>>53393491
The 2nd edition ork plasma gun?

>>53393491
That's a plasma gun.

>>53393515
>>53393548

>Blight Launcher
>Has almost exact stats of a plasma gun (perhaps one that has DEGRADED)
>GW with stupid names for everything

Not that much of a leap of logic to think they would rename plasma gun into something retarded.

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Is that Nurgling he's stepping on alright? :O

>>53393189
>Only 1 guy in the starter box has the cool bells

Well, there goes half my motivation for getting them.

>>53393548
>>53393515

But yeah, could go either way. I just have a hunch.

>>53393424
The Deathguard YouTube video confirms non-starter set Death Guard are coming.

>>53393600
I guess you're right.

Hellblaster (ugh.) = primaries plasma gun
Blight launcher (ugh again) = death guard plasma gun.

Why the fuck can't they just call it a plasma gun?

>>53393636
cuz this aint your grandads 40k, this is NEW Games Workshop. Remember?

>>53393636
I prefer tacticool plasma rifles.

>>53393636

Ever tried to get copyrights to the name "plasma gun"?

>>53393767
They could have at least called it a Noxplasma Scourer or something, so it actually sounds like a plasmagun variant instead of a blight grenade launcher

>>53393600
>S6
>AP-2 (so AP3 in current-year-k)
>Assault
>almost exact

Only thing matching with a plasma gun is the 24" range. Now, it could be, but "blight" isn't the thing that comes to mind when thinking about plasma.

>this bright shining pink

If only I could accomplish painting like this. Mine often looks dull.

>>53393601
It's a poignant visual metaphor for how in even the happiest and most egalitarian of societies the upper classes tread thoughtlessly upon the heads of the lowly masses beneath them, never stopping to consider the effect their metaphorical boots will have.

It's dead, anon.

>>53394167
It's not. It's there because the designer thought it'd look neat.

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Dr Belisarius, i am DeathGuard

>>53393189
Me and a coworker were gonna split two sets of these, but I don't know anymore with the really ugly poxwalkers and the very fixed pose marines that'll be quite hard to do much with even as an experienced sculptor, due to all the stuff on them. I do however like the HQ models (except the sorc) and the drones (with some more creative basing)

>First of all, they keep a pain-ignoring mechanic, which is now called Disgustingly Resilient, as we saw with Nurglings. The best thing about it is that you still get the save, even if you get hit with high Strength weapons that would have previously prevented you from getting a save due to the Instant Death rule.

ID from high strength confirmed.

That's fucking massive, considering the wound inflation.

>>53394267
>that would have previously prevented you from getting a save due to the Instant Death rule.
>previously

No, nothing there seems to state ID is still in the game, it seems to have been replaced with multi damage weaponry.

>>53394204
That Lord of Contagion keeps trying to assemble one of those palanquins for himself but there are never enough Nurglings because they pop whenever he tries to sit down. What we see is his latest attempt.

>>53394316
'Previously' as in previous to this rule being added.

I can see no other context in which it would make any sense to add that clause; if there's no ID then this rule is the same as any FnP.

>>53394267
The article was saying that in 7th, Instant Death prevented saves. In 8th, they'd get a save regardless.

It's strange wording, but that was the intention.

>>53394369
Oh wait yeah I see it.

That's really shittily worded then.

>>53394342
just imagine how hard the little rotten penis of this nurgling must have gotten, crushed under the disease and rust ridden boots of lord senpai

>>53394369
>>53394404
I don't even see how it's poorly worded. With knowledge of 7th and the context of the article it absolutely reads how it's supposed to.

>>53394360
No, it pretty much stated "the attacks that previously caused instant death like s10 to t5 did not give you fnp, but now those same attacks give you this new version, but you roll once per the multiple damage that has now replaced ID" pretty much. Nothing in that quote imples that ID is still in the game. Maybe we'll see it as special rules for certain characters though.

>>53394431
It's more that telling you that it would give you a save from ID is redundant if there's no ID.

>>53394431
It talks specifically about high strength weapons for no discernable reason, there were other sources of ID.

?"The best thing about it is that in 8th you still get the save, even if you get hit with weapons with the Instant Death rule."

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what the terrain in the back right?

Something new?

>>53394427
I would ask what the fuck is wrong with you, but this is the website that loves traps and other deviancy

>>53394495
Previously would have had the instant death special rule. Previously. Previously you idiot. They are trying to make fnp sound exciting by showing how it is better than it was previously. Who are you pretending to quote?

>>53394217

kek

>>53394427
They aren't Slaaneshi you degenerate.

>>53394585
remember

here
forever

>>53393601
It's about to pop like a zit

>>53393189
>So it looks like we'll have to wait a little longer for Mortarion. And no Deathshorud.

The terminator lord in the new box set at least makes for a decent Typhus stand in.

>>53393491
Why is bottom left guy holding a :potato masher" German WWII grenade? Where'd they dig up that "tech"?

>>53393601
No, it's growing out of the bottom of his foot. One of Papa Nurgle's little miracles.

>>53394699
Stole it from and Ork and slapped a few more skulls on it, duh.

>>53393491
So who here are everybodies' favourites?

Personally feeling Stikkbomba and the melty ass champion.

>>53393996
It's not the fucking plasma gun

>>53394360

Previously, as in "in the previous edition" you mong.

God damn those notzombies look fucking stupid what the hell. Oh well at least I'll be able to pick up those plague marines and blight drones on the cheap when people start breaking down these boxes.

>>53394753
oh right, stikk bombs look like Stielhandgranate too
I forgot

>>53394798
What's with the champion? His fucking face is melting off or some shit. I'm not a fan.

>>53394798
Personally I like top left MKIII Iron helm guy, just enough decay and guts without looking stupid like fuckface champion mcgee

>>53394798
The Terminator Lord with the big axe.

>>53394943
>implying your face wouldn't be melting off after a few hugs from Papa Nurgle

>>53394798
The ones I like the least are the guy to the left with the stupid horns, and bottom right. I like the rest, but stickbomber is the best one.

>>53393601
MY FUCKING DICK !
Longtime chaos player, I don't even play DG and i'll take one to make a small allied detachment for my Vraks renegade.

>>53394204
Nothing gets past you does it sherlock?

> However, the fact that those high-Strength weapons usually do more than 1 Damage now, means you may need to take multiple Disgustingly Resilient rolls.

This confuses and concerns me. Are damage rolls before saving throws now? I assumed you hit, wounded, saved, then damage is rolled, but this makes things a to more troublesome if I have to save multiple damage that way.

Or maybe disgustingly resilient only triggers after you fail a save, and after damage is rolled?

>>53395748

Assuming it follows AoS then it will be hit wound save damage. I would assume that disgustingly resilient triggers after damage, but maybe we should go back and look at the nurgling stat block and see what it has to say just to be sure.

>>53394798
Stickbomber, antlerguy and the dude with the plasma gun are my favs out of the plague marines.

Out of the characters I like the bingbonglord the most

>>53394204
Interpretation of a piece of art is not limited to the artist.

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>>53394508
no

that's the land raider excelsior door and the standard building kit partition things on a scratch built stairway

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>>53393601

>>53393767
Do they actually generate revenue from such copyrights in that it prevents recasting companies from calling it that?

If not then it seems very pedestrian of them.

>>53393601

Wait, there are two dead Nurgling next to him. He really hates these little guys.

>>53395787
>>53395748
the Nurgling and DG pages confirm its
Hit...Wound...Save...Damage...FnP

>>53396604
It would be cool if Nurglings divided like Horrors

>>53396604
my kind of guy

>>53396752
Also that's how it works in Shadow War: Armageddon so I don't see why that wouldn't carry over

>>53393636
Because its hard to copy write a generic term like plasma gun

>>53396894
I would not doubt it if GW tried to sue anyways if someone somehow made a functional, real life one

>>53393424
>blight launcher

what if the blight launcher is their basic bolter?
it looks different to the normal bolters to me

>>53397032
Looks like a regular phobos bolter with a shorter and fatter muzzle.

>>53393744
(tm)

>>53394798
I kinda like Babyface McMagic

>>53395748
>Roll for damage for each successful To Wound roll
>make one save for each successful To Wound roll
>add up the damage from all failed saves
>for each individual point of damage, make one Disgustingly Resilient (read: FnP) roll

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>>53397338
I think his staff is a bit wimpy looking, but weapon swaps are so easy a newbie could do one on a metal model, so it's no big deal.

>>53397032
>Assault 2
>R24"
>S6
>AP-2
>Dd3
Yes, that will be for sure their standard weapon. Obviously.

>>53397762
I don't like him much, I feel like the best parts of the others are the helmets and weapons, while this is lacking in both regards

>>53393601
>>53394167
>>53394658
>>53394724
>>53396604

Guys, can we just take a moment and direct our attention away from the nurglings and to just how bitching that axe is.

>>53397923
Honestly, that axe is the weakest part for me. While I get the idea with the Nurgle symbol made up of circular saw blades, it's just too much for me. That said, replaxing the axe head with something from the Blightking set should be a cinch.

>>53397967
nah, weakest parts are the censor smoke bits

modeled on smoke rarely works for me

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So what's next for CSM, new world eaters, or new emperor's childred? new emperor's children with noise marines pls

>>53398042
>slaanesh
>relevant

>>53398099
no shut up, fulgrim will get a daemon prince model within the next few returning primarchs if not the next

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>>53398042
>>53398099

>mfw Hashut CSMs before EC
>mfw Horned Rat CSMs before EC

>>53398173
Just let it go, Ferrus Manus will regrow his head before you'll get anything.

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>>53397923
It's pretty goddamn metal, that's for sure.

>>53397967
Really, any scythe head you could stick on the end there would pretty much give you an all-plastic Typhus, and that's pretty damn neat.

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>>53398190
>>53398266
it'll happen. Next is probably mortarion though, I think someone saw part of his scythe. And then maybe a loyalist, then it's fulgrim.

>>53398353
Hope dies last.

>>53397762

>I am the wizard jizz hands

>>53398353
Mortarion's already been seen. He and the Death Guard are pretty much the counter to Roboute and his Primaris Ultrasmurfs.

>>53394217
LMAO

>>53393636
Eldar Bright Lances used to just be Lascannons.
Orks used Bolters and Bolt pistols before they were renamed Sluggas and Shootas.
This weapon naming evolution is not new.

>>53398667
I heard mortarion was confirmed, can't find pictures yet though

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>>53398808
This is the best we have, but it matches the scythe showed in the DG teaser.

>>53398968
oh, that was leaked ages ago, I'm surprised it's real

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>>53397762
why he head too wee for he got damn neck

>>53399278
The face belongs to a nurgling under the hood. The space marine himself is headless.

>>53400501
that makes more sense

Wish we knew if the DG half of the starter set was any good. I have 2 sets of DV. Chaos was really lacking. I want to buy 2 of this set, but the jump pack guys look terrible. If the cultist are good this time around I can sprinkle the DG cultist in my 4 other squads.

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This dude and 20 of his buddies charge across the board and slap your lord of contagion on the ass with 80 rending attacks hitting on a 2+, what do?

>>53401453
hit them back with the poison blades

>>53401453
Not die and proceed to cough on you

>>53401453

kill one of them

>>53401453
facepalm for somehow forgetting to bubblewrap my lord

>>53393189
So happy I'm not a Death Guard or Marine player. These new models are a fucking joke.

>>53393601
No, the lord of contagion is growing out of the nurglings head

>>53394267
No, they're changing the feel no pain rule's name. Fnp is the only save that's cancelled by instant death.

>>53401998
I like the primaris marines. Gonna buy a couple boxes when they come out.

Nurgle marines are okay.

>>53401593
>cough on you
too bad the very next batch of tyranids will come back completely immune to the plague. Nurgle gets BTFO every time his forces go up against tyranids.

>>53398992
>doubting leaks in 2017

>>53397762
>I'm the Wizzard, and welcome to my magical realm

>>53397762
Fucking LOL at that Babyface. What the actual fuck. I do like those plague marines though, shame they will be such a massive cunt to paint.

>>53394217
Underrated

Am I the only one who thinks that the way they word the blight launcher makes it sound like their standard weapon? They did say plague marines are going to be pretty expensive.

>>53394267
I really hope they do something unique for necron reanimation protocals instead of just giving them a not!Feel no Pain.

>>53403396
You have to hold points in reserve to reanimate them just like summoning.

>>53403441
Pls no

>>53403347
yeah i'm pretty sure it's their standard weapon.

>>53403729
That's awesome if that's the case.

>>53398353
both Fulgrim and Angron have been mentioned a lot in recent fluff. I'm sure they're both getting models, it's just a matter of which gets one first.

>>53394217
You're big astartes

>>53393636
It looks like the Primaris plasma gun is built using the Tau plasma rifle as a basis.

>>53403928
4u?

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>>53404135
>It looks like the Primaris plasma gun is built using the Tau plasma rifle as a basis.

no. it was built with the imperial plasma cannon as a basis.

>>53403441
No, if it's anything like AoS you don't need to set aside points for bringing back models just were already part of s unit. Reserve points only count for bringing in new units or expanding existing units beyond their starting size

>>53404135
>>53404369
In any case, they totally look like two different seperate guns jammed together awkwardly. Moreso even than the combi-weapons that are literally that.

>>53404674
I don't see what you mean. can you elaborate on that?

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Here, a million hours in photoshop and I've fixed the scorcerer. The first thing I'm going to do when I get the set is drill his face out and replace it with a chaos marines, then cut off that stupid cloud and replace his hand. Love that Nurgle's followers are finally becoming the fat and happy infested growths they were always supposed to be.

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>>53395858
I hate how great stairs look but how much of a bitch they are to use in terrain.

>>53404840
but that stupid skull to fly cloud is the best part!

>>53404756
Not him but I kind of agree. It looks like a stretched out plasma gun, or like if you cut up a plasma gun beyond the coils and glued it to the back of anther gun.

In fact, what it most reminds me is a conversion I did when I needed some extra plasma guns and only had bolters and plasma pistols. I cut up two plasma pistols so I'd get a longer body and coil section, and then glued it to an arm holding the rear part of a bolter. The end result was a weapon that would be recognised as a plasma gun, but compared to the actual models was longer and more spender-looking.

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>rubrics = MK4, inferno bolters, option to take warpflamers, and their heavy weapon is an autocannon. Squad lead gets staff
>scarab occult = Tartaros, inferno combi bolters, warpflamer or autocannon, powerswords, and missile rack. Squad lead gets staff
>plague marines = MK3, knives, grenades, and bolters, with "heavier" weapon being plasma. No alt basic weapon options that we can see so far(?) Squad lead gets powerfist
>plague terminators (I'm betting on grave wardens rather than death shroud) = cataphractii, no real ideas on weapons though I'm guessing at least one might get a powerfist judging by the plague sergeant guy, maybe heavy plasma gun as one option? What do you guys think these guys will get?
>noise marines = MK2 presumably, probably sonic blasters. Heavy weapon option likely a blastmaster, and sergeant probably gets a whip or sword.
>noise terminators (phoenix guard maybe?) = ??? pattern armor, doom sirens and master blasters to go alongside standard sound stuff?
>zerkers = Mk5, chainaxes and pistols, if given alt options then I dunno. Giant chainsaw held low at the sides or something anyone?
>zerker terminators (Red butchers) = ??? armor, a bunch of axes, lead gets chainfists alongside axes, ???

>>53393491
Overdesigned CAD-crap.

All of them are probably just single pose on top of it.

>>53405905
Well, they're snap fit, so.. yes

>>53394798

Masher. You can guess which one that is.

I am 100% buying him on ebay Asap.

>>53405905

Some of them aren't as bad as GW have been in the past. But at this point, you have to expect GW to not know when to stop adding stuff in the CAD stuff. IT's gotten pretty endemic now.

Some of the Plague Marines are pretty decent, and the Lord of Contagion just, JUST, falls on the right side of things but yeah, GW overdesigning in CAD doesn't look like it's going away anytime soon.

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for anyone wondering . death guard are bigmarine sized.

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>>53406209
B-but pic related!

>>53397865
If you look at the new marines stats with 2W and uber bolters
rapid fire 1/ 30"/ -1AP
DG might want some punch, there is 21 dudes with at least 2W, You not gonna kill them with normal bolter, and since Tsons had their bolters pimped up I guess all 4 Big Legions will have some nice wargear.

>>53406416
>rapid fire 1/ 30"/ -1AP

Aka. bolter w/ kraken bolts.

>>53402146
I dont know how to breaki it to U but Nurgle Rot is 40k super magic aids, there is no cure save for Isha blood and you cant grow immunity to it.

>>53406209
GW will change scales permanently within 2-4 years...thats why the Shoulderpads and Heads are still the same Screencap this

>>53406409
>>53406209
Huh, it's almost like they're heavily mutated and thus vary significantly in height.

>>53406409
I think it's safe to assume gravs armor on primaris captain to be a terminator equivalent. I mean, he's much more huge compared to regular primaris.

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Stats on this dude?
Those guns dosnt look like lascanons to me what are they? Same as FW(never read it)?

>>53393601
Remove that icon thing from his back, swap the helmet and axe head and you have a pretty cool termi Lord of Nurgle

>>53406749
>what are they

Gonna go off on a limb and assume some poison sprayers. Non-starter version probably come with more options, including a close combat variant.

>>53393601
>cataphractii
>indomitus shoulders
>[muffled reeeeeee'ing]

>>53406912
>Chaos armour
>needing to have any semblance of consistency after 10,000 years of it being warped by daemonic possession, smashed apart in battle, and cobbled back together by some absolutely insane dark mech heretek with whatever other scrounged up pieces they got their tentacles on
Don't be retarded.

>>53404756
Maybe after work if the thread's still here.

Basically, the Plasma barrel just looks kinda jammed onto the end of a different gun, like the cleanest Ork weapon ever.

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>>53394508
wait one good god damn minute here

is that....

>Nurgles favoured number is 7

...well I'll be damned

>>53407302
I dont get it.

>>53406409
I think the plague marine there has his legs bent slightly more than the primaris guy, so he appears shorter. He's still noticeably taller than the regular marine.

>>53406416
I get what you are saying, but that would be way too much. A gun like that'd savage anything when amassed. The starter unit of seven plague marines would wipe out a unit of Primadonnas in one shooting phase.

>>53407864
Wrong guy I think.
1. Statystycaly speaking 7 DG with those new gun should kill 5 Normal marines.
2.There are only 5 PG
3.Chadmarine have 2W

>>53407174
>10,000 years of it being warped by daemonic possession, smashed apart in battle, and cobbled back together by some absolutely insane dark mech heretek with whatever other scrounged up pieces they got their tentacles on
>end up looking like a worn out suit of Grave Warden cataphractii with indomitus shoulder pads

My mind recoils in horror...

>>53407469
>>53407302
I also have no idea, but he MAY have meant the axe.

>>53407469
>>53408225
Maybe that there are seven plague marines and twenty-one models in total?

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Speaking of Chaos...

>>53407469
I think he sees pepe in that helmet and assumes it is there because nurgle's favoured number is 7 while kek, often pictured as pepe, is the god of memetic magic where 7 is the most magically powerful number for some

he is a fag

>>53407934
Damage d3, mate.

>>53406409
Can we get a pic of say a Mk III plastic marine? I want to see how well they stack up being slightly taller.

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>>53398968
Brother.

>>53406209
he Death Guard is actually shorter though, and that's despite having a narrower stance, thereby increasing his height comparative to the Big Marine.

>>53408510
So now its sure that we don't get an extra attack for 2CCWs. Great!

>>53394508
Big guy in the background...

>>53409110
Did you read the Dark Fury rule?

>>53412558
That's his point. The fact that it needs a named special rule means it's not a system wide rule anymore.

>>53404840
I'm just going to drill out his face and leave it as an empty hood. Should be spooky enough.

>>53412777
>day 999
>They still does't realize I'm changeling

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>>53412777
>take his face off
>not making him spit slime and maggots at the enemies
>not counting it as the flamer part of his combi-flamer

No, this does not forge the narrative.

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>work at LGS
>hypetrain around new edition is really strong
>me and co-worker not giving a damn, he's not playing 40k anymore, and I only play orks from time to time
>plan to snatch Index and hopefully play more orks, and just learn to new rules to run demo games
>suddenly wild new starter appears
>friend jizz his pants on primaris with jetpacks (he never wanted to play SM, even when he ejoyed 40k back in days)
>I jizz my pants on new nurgle (eventho I love tzeentch and I was never into nurgle)
>30 mins laters
>we're planning on dividing stuff form 3 starter boxes as soon as it arrives
>mfw we're best goyims around

>>53413438
I think highly detailed and individualized models like the starter DG (and DV Chosen) have a problem in that you can't just buy a ton of them to fill the ranks. On something generic like bolter Marines and the Primarines, they just sink into the crowd and giving them slight variations in markings or decorative bits helps to individualize them. But when you have 3 of the same DG plague marines with the same exact, individualized poses, bits and pieces, etc. They stand out more and it's a bit harder to make them different from one another.

>>53413800
that's one of my conerns, but hopefully it won't hurt my eyes that much. All depends on sprues - whether they're monopose snap fits, or you can swap/rotate hands, change shoulderpads or use any kind of customisation.

>>53413876
We know they're snapfits, and some of those poses make it quite clear that there's not much in the way of rearranging anything. Some of the heads might be separate pieces you can turn, but otherwise I'm not expecting the DG models to have much customization options.

I'm gonna get one box, so I can have the rulebook, and use some of the DG as sergeants and such. Hopefully proper plague marine kit isn't far behind, and can be mixed with BoP MkIIIs.

>>53413931
Honestly, I think two boxes should be doable. Those plague marines not holding onto a single gun with both hands should be able to have their arms swapped around with very little issue and I'm sure most heads and backpacks should be flexible, too.
With some additional stuff from a box of blightkings you may be able to do even more.

>>53415060
Problem with hand swapping is the MkIII having the extended vambraces, which extend over the wrist. Not as simple as swapping the hands on a MkVII suit, takes some extra time.

>>53415510
Just buy FW Nurgle, poorfag.

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>>53404756
Okay home from work, and did a hasty paint job to illustrate it.

The whole receiver end looks like this fancy tacticool job, and then the barrel is a Plasma Gun ++.

Honestly, I think it might be the tacticool carry handle that's doing it, because it looks super out of place on a 40K weapon.

>>53415817
>FW's CSM shitshow DG with MkII helmets and MkV torsos

Yeah, no thanks, I want MkIII ones, so I'll just wait.

>>53415866
>FW puts carrying handles on plasma guns, meltas, flamers, grenade launchers and lasguns
>nobody cares
>GW puts a carrying handle on one plasma gun
>model ruined

I'm not saying it's double standard, but it's been happening so much...

Also, it's plastic so just cut it off.

>>53415866
>carry handle

What carry handle? or are you talking about the rail?

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>>53406749
It was a weapon called a Mawcannon on FW's Blight Drone. Possibly just a redesign of that. Or just neat-looking Reaper Autocannons.

>>53416043
No, the carrying handle the rail is attached to.

>>53416054
The Mawcannon was an array of different weapons.

This looks like it had a single pair of guns, which probably will be swappable on a future release.

>>53415976
I never followed FW close enough to ever notice those for one.
For another, I'm not even sure that's exactly what my problem with it is. I don't know if cutting it off would actually even help.

>>53416043
The rail is also a carry handle.

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>>53412777
Triple 7s, Nurgle approves.