Song of Swords: I came here to laugh at you edition

Jimmy!
You said if someone made a thread you would post some shit!

Jimmy what's the most autistic piece of lore you've ever come up with? As a corollary, how do Voscans into dental hygiene?

>>53393023
The single most autistic piece of lore would have to be Krajini sumptuary laws. I actually had a whole chart, spanning the entire year, which stated what foodstuffs could be eaten on which day according to the ecclesiastic laws of the Krajini kingdom. This also necessitated the listing of every feast-day of the year.

I actually wrote this as part of a pitch to the head of Taleworlds (Armagan I think it was?) when we were briefly considering working together to produce a game. It was to show just how in-depth we were willing to go to create a realistic feeling medieval world, even if it was fantasy. Turns out the guy fucking hates fantasy with elves and such, that's probably why the deal fell through.

>>53393142
fucking hell

>>53393142
And so Elf-posting damned us for the the first time.

>>53393142
It must burn him that the best M&B mod has elves in it.

The Unkindlies are divided into four branches. Kralchester, Belchester, Noviton and Sutthigrad. Each of these four branches is headed by a Master--a Master being an individual who has slain a Fascine Troll in single combat, and who is approved to take over by the departing previous Master. Retirement is rare among the Unkindlies but, truth be told, the Krajina is not that large of a country, and many Unkindlies end up joining knightly orders in Illegon, the Kaselreich or Galli, for the opportunity to fight more monsters. Thus, there is frequent mobility in the Unkindly Order, and any capable member may someday end up being a Master, if only for a short while.

The four Masters themselves answer to the Grandmaster. Unlike the other positions, a Grandmaster's term is for life. His duty is not the killing of monsters, but of other Unkindlies. When a Grandmaster dies the current Masters are brought to Kralchester Keep, and are not allowed to leave until they have chosen a new Grandmaster. A dead or unconscious Master's vote may be given by whoever rendered him as such. The result is usually that the four agree immediately on who is to be their leader--but occasionally it does result in protracted fistfights in the silent halls of the great castle.

The Grandmaster holds total authority over the Unkindly Order, and has the right to order any member to commit suicide. If they fail to do so upon command, his hand-picked squadron will usually accomplish the feat for him, in brutal fashion.

The current Grandmaster is Arcturus "The Grow" of Kyev, a Ruscovite who came to the Krajina with an armful of hopes and dreams. Now thoroughly dashed, the only hope Arcturus has left is that someone strong enough to kill him will come along in the next few years, before he goes insane from the Blood Taint.

>>53393378
but gekakujo doesn't have elves in it

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>>53393398
wtf is up with those town names Jimmy?

>>53393398
>The Grow
Do you maybe mean the Crow?

>>53393487
It's just a combination of stereotypical Bong names and Slavic town names.

>>53393646
I did precisely mean that. Arcturus is called "The Crow" because he is only 5'9. Ravens are bigger than crows. Most of the Unkindlies are in the 6'2 range, they recruit for size and fearsomeness. Arcturus was so brutal that they let him in despite him being less than six feet. He was an extremely capable and ruthless fighter, but his height was often a source of mockery from the other Unkindlies. Now he is Grandmaster, by unanimous vote, and they still call him "Little Arthur" or "The Young Master," but he is not too upset. Everyone is shorter than him when they're bowing.

>>53393438
Prophesy of Pendor, mothafucka.

>>53393905
>Play a faction other than the Romans
>Make me
>5000000000 dark undead demon cultists late

Fuck PoP dude. I don't know how people played it. It's like Long War 2 if the battles were somehow even less fair.

>>53393142
Obviously with the SoS kickstarter development you don't have time now, but if you were to work with a game company that's not Taleworlds to make a tie-in vidya, who would you want to work with?

>>53393398
Blood taint?

>>53394134
When you get ass-raped so hard that the blood drips down and pools behind your balls then dries there (or at least starts to) before you get off the bed. Really itchy and annoying.

>>53391678
>Venezuela

I heard the protestors literally burned down Hugo Chavez's childhood house.

>>53393398
How common is it for all four masters and a grandmaster to preside over blood honors Jimmy? Do Unkindlies do a Witcher thing where they all gather for a season before going back out on their grim task? Or are they all kind of semi-permanently together? Apart?

>>53394134
Someone will link you Blood-Magic, it's an Unkindly thing. Basically as you empower yourself with the blood of monsters it has a lasting effect on you, slowly turns you into a beast yourself.

>>53394365
Virtually never. The Unkindlies are basically at the beck and call of the Crown, and they have internal agendas, AND they each have personal agendas. The result is they're mostly constantly out hunting shit or delivering messages or otherwise busy.

During the winter months they tend to congregate in the Four Keeps, where they get really drunk and troll each other for several months until spring comes and they can go kill monsters again.

For the entire command staff of the organization to be in the same place at once would necessitate a huge event--maybe if they were trying to induct a Din into the order, or if the kid were some kind of prodigy.

Used to be that the masters would gather each winter and discuss events, but Arcturus, the current grandmaster, disappears each winter. They say he goes off into the woods to kill and eat hibernating bears.

>>53394494
They are grey-wardwitchers?

>>53394584
Basically. They're rapidly becoming my favorite faction in game.

Hey Jimmy, is there organized crime in Vosca?

>>53395093
The Unkindlies in SoS and the Rahoos in CotV are the two best factions.

>>53394494
Other than the Chiron gun monks are there any other magical societies in COTV?

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>Literally Jimmy's words in the Disco
"I'm don't know if I'm a Socialist, but I do know I'm a Nationalist
"Wait, what happens if we combine the two... OH NO"

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>>53395774
I can't wait for the Dickstab Putsch in California. Jimmy and an army of sword-enthusiasts will march on the capital and behead the entire government.

>>53393378
But Rome at War has no elves in it.

>>53395774
Isn't Jimmy like a mega libertarian type?

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>>53396005
He did a political compass test in the disco and came out as an extreme Authoritarian. He thought he was an ancap but he's actually a fascist.
Pretty much the story of /sos/.

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>>53396039
It's cause he has friends in Manchester. He's fucking pissed about the bombing. Jimbo turns into a fucking nazi every time this shit happens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGNsLD9hW1Y

>>53396187
Literally nothing wrong with hanging.

>>53393940
Maybe you should git gud. PoP is for experienced players.

>>53396187
People get upset some times, there's no point in judging.

>>53393905
But we're talking about the best, not one of the worst.

The real Holy Trilogy of the Best, 1257, Gekokujo, and Brytenwalda all have no elves.

>>53399120
>no Eagle and Radiant Cross
Shit list m8.

>>53399120
Brytenwalda is legit good, haven't played the others. I remember that being at sea was totally shit back then though.

>people caring about M&B
I've never been able to get into it. I like the idea of it, but the implementation is lacking a whole hell of a lot of polish.

>>53393378
But Floris doesn't have any elves in it.

>>53396963
>Literally nothing wrong with hanging.
Brits hanged people, there's one thing

>>53400536
It's a ten year old game made by a husband and wife team in a Turkish basement. It was the best mounted combat game on the market for the better part of a decade and has an amazing mod community.

>>53401305
>it was
It still is. It has no competition. No one has tried to make another Mount & Blade in the ten years it's been out. I've been stuck with this awful AI for 10 fucking years and no one is fixing it I am so mad

What even is an elf? In SoS, they're basically just races. The only thing that unifies elves is their immortality. I'm not even sure that they all have pointy ears, or that all other races don't. It's like saying the Sí* are elves and so are teh Ælfar, and so are Santa's little munchkins while we're at it.

*sidhe in the oldest spelling, or sìth in an intermediate one (as Cait Sìth), but nobody pronounces it like those.

>>53394494
>They say he goes off into the woods to kill and eat hibernating bears.
The foolish ursas. They let their guard down. Now is the time to feast.

Meanwhile in Discord
Manchild avers that dueling should be legal so that he can shoot liberals who disagree with him, and then gets mad when people make fun of him.

>>53401603
If humans are also Din, it seems like in SOS "elf" is actually just a broad term for hominids.

>>53402235
>dueling should be legal so that he can shoot liberals who disagree with him
Why though? Just legalize helicopter rides.

>>53402235
>I basically like the idea of being able to provoke a liberal into challenging me to a duel and then set the terms and make them regret it
t. Someone other than Jimmy for once

>Pls do not send me dragon dildos
t. Jimmy

>>53402235
That man is a fool. He's missed the entire point of Song of Swords. What is the central tenant that Song of Swords teaches you? What is its moral? Its lesson? Its takeaway? It is that fighting fair is the stupidest thing you can ever do. In any duel, in any fight, in any equal struggle, you have a chance of losing. Losing means you die. Your story ends. If you don't have children your lineage dies too, buried in the same shallow grave as your corpse. If you want to win, you do not fight fair. You do not square up to your enemy at high noon. You do everything in your power to avoid this situation. Song of Swords teaches you this through its mechanics, if you just look. Your chances of winning a Red/Red are almost never better than 90% -- meaning you die 10% of the time you try it. Any time you are attacked, you may be hit. The only way to ensure you are never hit is to never get attacked. To never get attacked, you must not fight people who realize they're in a fight. If he hasn't realized this truth at the heart of Riddle of Steel's system, he's a headstrong cuckservative who doesn't realize the idiocy of fighting openly.

Does anybody have any pic references for 13th century Byzantine soldiers, and the stuff from between the sack of Constantinople and the imperial restoration like the Despotate of Epirus, the Latin Empire, and the Nicaean Empire?

>>53402821
>in any equal struggle
I guess the point of provoking a challenge is that defender traditionally held the right to choose weapons and conditions of a duel. Thus he can turn the fight to his favor from the beginning.

>>53401623
>>53394494

Truly the hero we need.

>>53401305
>>53401601

How are you guys feeling about Bannerlord, based on what you have seen? If you've taken a look at it.

>>53403573
It was vaporware 5 years ago and it's vaporware today
It's been in development longer than SoS and that's been an eternity
When it actually releases I may have an opinion

Tonight Jimmy said he would tell us about his vodka distilling project after he got home from his AA meeting, and then he didn't.

>>53404719
Oh yeah, I took a nap. Process wasn't ready to continue yet but it looks like it's working.

>>53403573
It looks great, but I hope it actually comes out.

>>53403204
The setting has that quality to it, where the world is completely fucked but there are organisations that give you a bit of hope. The Unkindlies are one such. They kick the shit out of eldritch horrors and they aren't even a military organisation. The Volkodavs or other military orga must fuck Monsters up hard.

>>53396963
It takes a while, and can be messy

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>>53405984
A recurring and interesting theme in SoS is that governments are uniformly the most powerful things in the setting. The Dark Watchers pose no actual threat to humanity because of the traditions which repel them. Goblins, Elves, even monsters and demons don't even register on the scale of national threats.

The most powerful thing in Tattered Realms is a group of humans with a common goal. Even a shithole like Dace would absolutely BTFO any of the monsters or calamities described so far. Ten thousand men with cannons guns and halberds will rekk any dragon or abomination that could possibly drag itself out of the abyss, it isn't even a question, it's just a fact, and ten thousand men would be considered a pathetically small army for any country.

The world is thus one not of giant monsters and people desperately evading them, but of whatever horrors manage to leak through the cracks between states and their fuckhuge arrays of cannons and rockets and warships and pike formations. The real threat has always been other humans. Monsters are just a garnish on a world whose chief feature is that it is as fucked up as our own.

It's actually an interesting take on HFY, because it's so understated. Humans are consistently described as inept, stupid, ignorant, violent, uncooperative apes, but they're still there, and they're not going away.

>>53406348
There are races that are objectively better than humans. Big organized groups of those races would be better than humans. They're just written by fiat to not be organized.

>>53406536
The Helians are organized, and they basically rule the world. That's sort of beside the point though, because the portrayal of "humans" can be extended to the portrayal of "people" in general.

The point remains that mortals, bipedal mortals who are more or less human whatever their abilities, are the dominant lifeform because of their cooperation.

The exception to this is the Ohanedin, who wreck humans every day despite being totally disorganized, but they're a race of Aryan waifus.

>>53406348
>>53406536
Now I crave rules for a Burdinadin Air Wing contesting Dark Watchers in glorious aerial combat.

>>53406348
Jimmy seems to swing between being a massive lolbertarian and a fascist, so it makes sense that to his perception the government simultaneously the ultimate hero AND the most deadly villain.

>Bad shit is happening
>The government shows up
>Things either just got way worse or way better

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>>53406853
Imagine you have this battle, the last alliance of men and elves. Humans and Ohanedin desperately struggle against tides of bestial darkness. Their sabers flash and shine in the dying light, but they are losing ground. The cannons thunder but even their massed grape shot cannot repel the hordes of slavering otherworldly creatures.

Then there is a sudden drop in air pressure. Distant music. A beating of steel wings. The entire army turns as one, stunned, as the Burdinadin arrive.

The rocket pods open up, screaming, fiery death erupts to Wagner's heavenly trumpets.

>>53407167
The Burdinadin have mecha so it would be accompanied by this.

https://youtu.be/z1KB5HUSO9g

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>>53407167
>Touch elves
>Get your flesh ripped from your body by successive waves of 7.62

The Elves are this setting's immune system. They snap and then mcfucking kill everybody.

jimmy is going to make a castle in alaska

>>53408355
So the kickscammer rises its head, finally.

>>53406104
Yeah, but it's a more pleasing thing to have in a central plaza than public "art".

>>53407023
>Jimmy seems to swing between being a massive lolbertarian and a fascist
When nothing bad is happening, he wants liberty, but when there's premonitions of danger in the news, he prefers security. Naturally, he deserves neither.

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>>53393905
Sir, you are mistaken.

>>53410170
What other M&B entity induces such terror like a squad of Noldor Rangers? It's tough, it's long, it's a challenge to your ego, but it still is the best mod out there.

>>53409303
What if it's art of people hanging?

>The average Han would wade through six miles of human blood if there were a plate of dogmeat at the end.

>>53413142
quoted from?

>>53413443
Jimmy, on Chinese controlling Africa.

>>53410798
Good mod. The creator is an asshole, though.

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>>53414416
Why are all our heroes such unrepentant assholes?

Jimmy, how do the different cultures of vosca feel about polygamy?

>>53414559
We're chanscum, those are the heroes we deserve.

>>53413142
>Trenchfoot but from blood
That's terrifying.

>>53413443
Who do you fucking think?

>>53415536
>chanscum
Who made this shit up?

>>53415536
>chanscum
What a retarded fake term.

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https://i.imgur.com/aNgVPV4.gifv

The Venezuela protests are getting upstaged by ISIS vs Duterte in the southern Phillipines.

>>53413142
That's actually pretty accurate, if hyperbolic. When the Chinese get their mind set on something they don't stop. Ever.

>>53414636
Genosism doesn't explicitly forbid it, but it isn't really a part of any of the Western Voscan cultures, with the exception of the Ohanedin of Iber. The Ohanedin see it as perfectly natural (probably because the men of their society regularly suffer considerable attrition) and generally four or five women share one husband, with the number rising as the individual rises in status.

The one crime which carries the punishment of death in an Ohanedin society is murdering a member of your own family. An easy way to prevent powerful women from scheming against each other is to marry them off to the same man, or to brothers, etc. This theoretically prevents potential conflict between them by technically making them into the same household. Needless to say this doesn't actually work.

>>53418012
>cannibal elf harems
Dark Fetish God strikes again.

>>53416087
>ISIS vs Duterte in the southern Phillipines
Wait, so US now tries to move pet Taliban 2.0 closer to Chinese borders?

>>53420266
They can try, but Rodrigo Duterte makes Rade Sark look like fucking Ghandi. He's going to slaughter them like pigs.

Jimmy, in the Orredin eugenics program, what happens if one of the half elves fucks a human?
What happens to the child?

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>tfw Jimmy is openly challenging the entire Guns of Icarus community to a duel

Who would win, one AnFash, or the entire community of an MMO? Two guesses and the first one doesn't count.

>>53421439
Jimmy fucking slaughtered my MGSV defenses. I'm terrified of what the entire company could do in another game. Who even is the rest of the team?

karthack delenda est?

>>53421532
Clan [ZELL]. They have a fantastic W:L ratio.

>>53421586
Soon

>>53421532
Jimmy pilots the ship, the rest are just guys from the Roll20. If you were taught how to play SoS, you probably learned from a member of the Zell Clan.

>>53423689
he pilots one of the ships, I can't remember who piloted the other but it sure as hell won't be me. Fuck flying, there's a reason I named all my ships the slow crash.

>>53418012
Speaking of Din, how to the population sizes compare in Vosca. Do zells make up 70% of all din and 30% of the total pop? Are dwarves more prevalent than orredin? What is the rarest race to see?

>>53425696
I bet Orredin are the rarest to see, they are too busy with their orgies and shit to descent from their floating city.

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>>53422696
(Adorable squeaking intensifies)

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Really interested in trying out this ruleset with my Wars of the Roses friends, but I'm a bit lost regarding combat and damage.

I did a test fight of two characters, who I shall name Longsword and Scimitar.

Longsword chose to go aggressive, and declared a downward overhead Swing attack with an investment of 6.

Scimitar attempted to Parry, with an investment of 8.

Longsword rolled 4 dice above the TN of his weapon, and Scimitar did very poorly and rolled only 2.

Longsword rolls "Lower Head" on hit location. Scimitar is not wearing any head protection.

STR 7 + WEAPON SWING DMG 2 + 1 Misc = 10

The TOU of Scimitar is 5, which gives a difference, and thus a Wound Level to the lower head of 5, killing him instantly?

Did I do everything correctly here?

>>53426884
I think so, yeah.
Well, you'd get the difference in Successes from Attack - Defense added to your damage as well, iirc. So:
>STR 7 + WEAPON SWING DMG 2 + 1 Misc + 2 (from successes) = 10
Other than that I do not see any glaring mistakes, but I also have very little experience.

>>53426884
Looks right. Welcome to the game, it's lethal as fug.

>>53426884
>Scimitar is not wearing any head protection.
I hope lesson is learned

>>53402399

Don't you mean helicopter jousting?

>>53423905
It's Jimmy and Haki who pilot mostly. Jimmy's better when he's sober but he never is.

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>>53426884
Yep. Welcome to Song of Swords. WEAR A HELMET.

Accuracy probably needs to be touched a bit, shoulders are still magnets I believe, and I can straight punch a fly off the knob of a Zell manwhore at 10 paces seven times out of ten. You may want to either fiddle with STR/TOU damage formula a bit for your PCs if you wanna have that sort of dashing heroic flynne-esque adventure.
>>53427903
Cool. Guess I'll probably ending up riding skel.

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>>53427148
>>53427435
>>53427494
>>53428097

Thanks all! As an introduction, I've created a fighter with each of the players, we're going to hold a little tournament, to show how the fighting rules work, and have a bit of fun.

Helmets will be strongly advised.

>>53426884
>above the TN of his weapon
You mean equal to or above, right Anon?

>>53429312
Make sure to give us a play by play anon, it helps thread and we can correct mistakes.

>>53429455
I second this motion.

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>>53429352
Aye, 7's or more, he got a pretty lucky roll. Scimitar was unfortunate.

>>53429455
It's tough selecting different weapons for the combatants, there are so many!

>>53429540
Just pick longswords, everyone knows how a longsword should work. Don't listen to any Egyptian wankers.

>>53429680
HOOK THE BLADE, BEAT THE LEG.

>>53429701
BLADE THE HOOK, LEG THE BEAT

>>53429729
What happened to the Ballad soviets, Jimmu? Why did they collapse?

>>53429757
bECAUSE THE BIG j DOESN'T LIKE SOVIETS.

>>53429540
For a short list of fun weapons.
Poleaxe is a good dueling polearm, as is the Lucerne and the Lochaber axe.

Montante, Longsword and Grutte Zwei round out the two handed swords category filling several niches while being versatile. In 2h Blunt the battleaxe, maul and 2h maces are fun.

It's hard to go wrong with a good old half pike or short spear, the latter works well with a round shield. Speaking of shields they all work except for maybe the pavise. Coupled with a spear, your choice of arming sword, mace or axe they're all pretty fun. The Flail is good too.

As for swords. Take your pick man, that's why we have so many. My personal favorites are the katzbalger, sidesword and saber.

>>53429757
Short version.

After CWI Oscar Vukcic, a Steinerist Communist revolutionary took control of Volgia, establishing a one-party Socialist state and purging the opposition to his party.

This created problems in Khmelnytskia, one of the larger provinces of the former Empire, where the land was primarily owned by hereditary farmers, who refused to labor to the same degree when their product was confiscated by the new government. The result was famine, and the radicalization of the traditional military ethnic group of Khmelnytskia--the Ghoezats. These guys were pretty mad about how they were being treated and rebelled.

Vukcic and his government handily defeated the rebels and began a series of terror operations that ruthlessly suppressed dissent in the future, mostly through the mass execution of undesirables and counterrevolutionary individuals. Things were mostly secure until Vukcic sadly died of a stroke. His wife and children were drowned the next day by Vukcic's successor--Anton Zhelozhovic, who also went through tremendous lengths to exile his major political rival, [Cannot be Written]

Things proceeded more or less unabated from there, until a second Khmelnytskian revolt occured, this time the Ghoezats receiving funding and weapons from both the SNVP in Chiron and the Hinamoto Empire. Around this time, [Cannot be Written] returned at the head of the Pensnezarist Faction to oppose Zhelelzhovic, backed by the KPX in Chiron (Communist party) and certain Albish interests. Combined with the rebellion, the Republic collapsed into warring factions. The Pensnezarists and the Zhelezovic faction remained the two largest of these, until the leadership of the former was reduced to dust by the Black Wind, and the leadership of the later were captured by Ghoezat rebels escaping from gulags in the East while retreating. Anton Zhelezhovic was tied to a chair and executed with a blowtorch on camera. Thus began the Quagmire.

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>>53429680
To get everyone started, and invested, I asked everyone to select their combatant's ideal sword and give it a name. The wielders themselves are in varying states of WIP, but I'm glad at the selection so far. Interesting to see people make the character around the weapon.
(The Dwarf lover picked an axe)

Empire - "Order, by Grace of God."
Master Forged Longsword (pictured)

Luna di Dio - "The Christians are Coming!"
Exotic Scimitar

Morsus - "Scream bloody murder in agony!"
Cursed Baselard Dagger

Death Rattle - "Time to settle your debts..."
Black Steel Sabre

Xolotl - "My reputation precedes me!"
Aztec Obsidian Blade

Shoveller - "Got me out of many a scrap."
Battle Worn Gladius

Fortune - "Only had to use it once."
Elegant Misericorde

Dragonslayer - "More like a heap of raw iron..."
Berserker Grutte Zweihander

Wensleydeath - "Lovely natural flavour."
Small Cheese Knife

Shihozume - "Honour and Sharp Edges"
Two Handed Katana

Change - "Wielded by Destiny itself."
Luck infused Broadsword

Key to your Heart - "Unlock your death."
Translucent Steel Sabre

Ancestor's Fury - "Oath of Vengeance"
Ornate Dwarven Axe

Bard - "Carve a poem across your chest."
Exquisite Rapier

Lion's Fang - "Forged among the Stars"
Unbreakable Bastard Sword

Stalker - "It'll slit your fucking throat."
Slavic Kitchen Knife


There are a few more to come but this is nearly all of them. It seems they approached it with varying ideas about era, level of fantasy, seriousness etc but it should be good fun.

>>53430004
Is the Katana user aware of the katana being a primarily 2h sword or is he using an Odachi?

>>53429987
>[Cannot be written]
So... the Chironite Babel-tar superweapon thing was recent, then?

>>53430036
I think he wants to be able to switch between 1H and 2H, but mostly 2H.

>>53429987
I assume the Ghoezats are Cossacks... Are you saying that Cossacks caught and murdered Vladimir Lenin? So the USSR has collapsed now, what happened to Stalin an Trotsky?

>>53430073
I can see that. Being able to hand off and grapple or throw a punch is nice.

>>53430004
Oh oh, I want to play too, I'll use "To the Teeth," Unsharpened Hussar Saber.

>>53430081
You don't need a feee hand to grapple.

>>53430077
Stalin was the guy who got blowtorched, Trotsky for some reason is unnameable.

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>>53430104
Apologies friend but we're playing it out in person tomorrow at our gaming meet. Thank you for developing a great game!

I'll write up the results here, and give information on the combatants if people are interested.

>>53430124
You do need to be able to handoff if you want to do stuff outside of the grapple or continue using your weapon.

>>53430004
>>53430104
David - "I want to be a superhuman."
+2,000% Exquisite Decoration Bowie Knife
An old standby from the roll20 room

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>>53430148
kek, I look forward to seeing the results. Run a good game lad, the players' fun is what matters the most!

>>53430185
I don't know what you mean. There's no relation between having an empty hand and grappling. Hand-off is useful only to let yourself punch, and that's because the rules are foolishly written so that holding a 2H weapon makes you--somehow--unable to take your hand off for a split second to punch.

>>53430210
50 shades of grey.

Became a billionaire by 20, and use your time to screw with people.

>>53430262
You can still take your hand off the weapon to punch someone with a 2H weapon, you just can't perform maneuvers with that weapon in the same action as the punch.

We should make that more clear in the rules. Good catch.

>>53430612
Well then, the one upside to grappling someone with a 2H weapon is gone now. Now they can punch you in grappling no matter what.

Since you're at it, can you also confirm that Traps and Pins prevent you from Hand-Offing a 2H weapon? It says you can take no action with that arm. But Hand-Off also lets you swap hands instantly if one arm gets completely severed. So which is it?

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>>53425696
Fun fact: Dwarves are not actually Din.

>>53433814
They're from space, right.

>>53394235
not /tg/ but this is actually true
Source: im venezuelan

>>53434611
We don't know exactly where they're from.

>>53430148
Good luck m8.

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So you know how in the US, from time to time somebody will go to a school and shoot people?

Well now in Venezuela the police are doing that.

Augusto Puga was killed by police on campus in Boivar city using actual (not rubber) bullets and later died in hospital.

Pictured is an injured student being removed from the university over a wall, as police had blocked the exits.

>>53437891
Who are we barracking for though? The police or whoever they're fighting?

>>53437955
Up to you, I'm more on the side of the ones wanting democracy than the failed communists myself.

>>53434649
Liar

>>53437965
>I'm more on the side of the ones wanting democracy
I would side with these people over failing autocrats. They will fail at their goal and get another corrupted government but the current ruling scum deserves execution.

>>53430142
(((for some reason)))

>>53437955
Not even Noam Chomsky is advocating for the Venezuelan government anymore. It's literally a failed state, the question is whether they'll actually be able to repair their situation on their own, or if the CIA will prop up Pinochet Mk II to shoot every leftist in the country out of a cannon into the sun.

>>53438370
Wait, is that literally the reason? Why can't people say echoing names in Ballad, does Jehovah come out of the sky to lightning bolt anyone who talks shit on them?

>>53438918
Chiron used black nazi magic to kill all of the Space-Jews in the world at once. The result completely fucked up the world, it's why Rahoo is such a disaster and why the Not!Soviets collapsed, half of the global intelligensia just disintegrated into dust at once, and nobody can even remember who they were. The fascists are probably super confused because they remember being really butthurt about something but they can't remember what it is.

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>>53438004
I don't think there's a happy ending in the cards for Venezuela, no matter what happens the next strongman to arise will probably do so promising shit he can't possibly deliver, and the cycle will continue.
I know some Vens though, they're a great people. Maybe they will break the cycle and build a new, better government. I wish I were still optimistic enough to believe that will happen.

>>53438936
Gee the Jews seem to get a really raw deal whenever Jimmy writes a setting, what could it mean?

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>>53439040
He's stirring up Jewish Sympathy by putting them in a blameless yet harsh situation where they are victimized by a cruel militant group of Nationalists.

Clearly Jimmy is a friend of Israel and all Jews. You should look into your own heritage and see what horrible atrocities they have done to the Jews in the past and then make peace with Israel and send reparation for your families sins against God's chosen people.

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>>53439040
Well they got a pretty raw deal IRL too. I didn't just do this for the hell of it though, there's a greater story to be told here. The aftermath of a disaster is sometimes more interesting to pick through than the event itself.

>>53439123
Could you be a little bit less tactful, I think there might be someone on /wsr/ who didn't hear you.

>>53439138
>worksafe requests

?????????

>>53439262
It's the most far right board in the lists above and below.
Though there's /x/ too, but for me it's actually on a seperate row.

>>53439274
/x/ is always the most far right
real nazis go through /x/ all day

the occult will save us

>>53429987
So to clarify, Space Lenin is basically lifted unchanged, but after his death Space Stalin and Space Trotsky fought instead of Trotsky just fleeing, and this eventually resulted in a civil war that tore the country apart with other powers funding various factions.

So the Space USSR is now balkanized a'la pre-Communist China, and some cossacks caught Stalin and burned him alive because reeee muh holodomr.

Here's the chief question: If the Chirons have now won WWII, why aren't they invading and absorbing this balkanized country? It's not like they have to subjugate the people, they could just wipe them out.

>>53439410
Because it's fucking huge and there's a ton of angry men with guns who hate foreigners more than they hate each other, presumably.

>>53439444
I don't think Space Poland ever fell because the Danzig corridor doesn't exist because the countries are a bunch of islands instead of a contiguous landmass.

So Space Poland is still there, Molotov-Ribbentrop sure as shit didn't happen and that means that the Space-Germans don't even share a land border with the Ruskies.

>>53439444
Pretty much this. The Chironites need more land for their population, but at this point they'd rather fight over colonial possessions than try to invade the Volgins. It would be a total nightmare and while Sternfleischer would probably go for it, Richtofen acts as a tempering influence--such an invasion would be unrealistic. It would just be angry slavs shooting in all directions.

>>53439518
This is also true. Poland (We haven't decided what to call it yet so I've just called it Poland) and Chiron fought primarily over a disputed trio of islands where some Ximbri lived, where there were reports of violence against them by.

Now how true this is is of course unknowable--propaganda in times of war is untrustworthy--but the result was that the Space Poles actually repelled Chiron's army in one of their most pointed defeats, and then negotiated for the autonomy of the three islands afterwards, on the condition that they be considered within Space Poland's sphere of influence. This isn't what Chiron wanted, but by this time the Arloni had declared war and they couldn't wait to fight for a better deal. Perhaps ironically, Space Poland emerged the least fucked up of all of Albion's allies post-war, having technically won their engagement, and even scooped up some of Khmelnytskia in the Volgin civil war. They are one of the likely future opponents of Chiron in Core Island politics.

So how would you guys go by simulating young age and such in SoS, potentially as a flaw? Considering child and teenage soldiers and such.

>>53440062
Hm. Roll Short into thia new bane, maybe prevent them from having a faith arc as children have yet to fully learn empathy. Negatives to all the physical stats bar maybe dex, same with INT though that may be up for discussion based on the character themes. Massive bonus to initiative, especially if they aren't shown handling a weapon as many won't suspect them of anything.

>>53440062
I actually talked to Jimmy about this on the Disco once, he's a huge fan of Deadlands. Deadlands has a system specifically for this, and he was sort of positive to the idea of making a Boon/Bane for it.
The impression I got was that they were going to include one to begin with, but they didn't want the game to become a child-murder simulator. Having rules specifically for characters to be kids in a system this lethal would be bad optics.

>Reading through all the old Galt Fechts
I haven't seen this much religious symbolism since the last time I read a Brandon Sanderson novel. Is it weird that Galt is Serbian but also Catholic? Aren't those normally called Croats?

>>53440062
It's real easy. Weak stats, short 2, no grit.

>>53440296
I don't think he's catholic.

>>53440296
It's Jimmy who's the catholic.

>>53442107
He's a heretic is what he is.

>>53429987
Are all these names written as they should be? Some feel like there's missing diacritics, but you're by far a greater slaviboo than I am.

>>53439561
I think the greater danger is that attacking a balkanized state too soon is likely to unite them. Rather than letting them put aside their differences, better to wait until things are status quo, until the generation of warriors becomes old and the new younger generation are peace-loving fools who've seen nothing but enmity for their neighbors.

>>53442107
They're both catholics.

>>53441336
He's possibly more Catholic than Jimmy, since his entire existence appears to be one of guilt while Jimmy has all the fervor but all of these really fucking weird ideas on theology and a total lack of any guilt

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>>53446103
>serbian man
>ever not serbian orthodox

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>>53438936
>they remember being really butthurt about something but they can't remember what it is
Reminds of this for some reason

>>53446218
Jimmy is literally a witch.

>>53446103
Neither of them are catholics.

>>53446650
It's actually a good question, what is Chiron going to do now that they've actually succeeded at wiping out their pet scapegoat race, what's left? The Soviets are gone and the Jews are all dead, they're going to be scraping the bottom of the barrel for new people to exterminate.

>>53449401
lizard people from the other side of the void, they ought to get us

>>53449488
You mean the zells?

>>53449546
I mean the other kind of lizard people

>>53449546
But Zells are clearly the master race.

>>53450438
Yeah right.

t. Ohanedin

>>53453026
You talk tough for someone who is going to have an unhealthy amount of arrow shafts penetrating their nonmetallic armor here pretty shortly.

>>53453026
Stop eating people.

>>53453295
Don't infringe on muh rights.

>>53453026
Shouldn't you buy industrial amounts of bork from boatsluts or something?

>>53449401
They'll probably purity spiral until they end up in a civil war between Literally Hitler and the Kaiser or whoever. Alternatively, it could be the Hive.

Is this character aight? https://pastebin.com/sA9icFtS

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Breaking News from the Fecht desk: Ancient Portugese nobleman brutally murdered in his home by wandering homeless martial artist. No records have been found on the vagrant, experts claim his movements were strange and unnatural leading many to believe him to half zell or even and agent of vile Dessia.

Breaking news from the wilderness: Noble Disciple of the Flapping Cock defeats strange foreigner, clad head to toe in steel. Joint thrust stronk, TN5 arm parry stronk

>>53457832
I always loved this art piece very much.

https://twitter.com/NYCAntifa/status/868471539636764676 alright, which one of you faggots was this?

>>53456895
High quality.

>>53457951
Unless he did the stabbing in the dick with a half pike, it probably wasn't us.

>>53457951
I doubt it's one of us. Anyone here would get a much higher kill count and the posts probably would've mentioned our preferred oakeshott type sword

>>53457951
>Join Trump SS
>Put an end to all christians that do not follow Christ's teaching of Love, Charity, and Forgiveness

Mate.

>>53458963
It's crazy person behavior, I'm willing to bet it comes out the guy was on bath salts.

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>>53394090
I'd probably get Starbreeze on the line, talk to them about making an murder-elf-simulator along the lines of the Riddick games.

>>53460184
Playing Eskarne would be dank, she's off killing shit trying to numb her pain but gets mixed up in local affairs and has to creep around town and she's stumped because there's this one guy she has to kill but she can't and she doesn't know why! It's because he it's because he's young, charming and smells of cinnamon.

>>53460184
Has Eskarne killed any paleos?

>>53460184
>Ohanedin game about escaping an Iron Glade after cruel experiments
>Have to avoid touching metal and provides reasonable logic for not picking up enemy weapons
>Natural awareness for supernatural sight
>Murderous speed for bullet time
>The Feeling Disappears for bullet dodging
>Rules of nature for sacrificing life for power
I'd play the fuck out of that.

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>>53460553
Fairly unlikely, given they are not a part of her quest and by their own nature don't die easily.

>>53461865
Official art?

>>53461865
If you are posting, does that mean Jimmy passed out again?

>>53461928
I doubt, looks too fantasy

>>53430148
How did it go my man?

>>53461931
He has mastered the art of mobile elfposting.

>>53391678
>that painting
It's crazy to think that the Reconquista was still going on when Columbus sailed to America.

>>53460553
She might have done so unintentionally at some point, but it's very unlikely one of those would be her target--they don't breed and how many of them hang around with random mercenaries killing small-town doctors? More than you'd think, but fewer than you'd hope.

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>>53463358
Stat this, Jimmy.

http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2009/10/13/the-beehive-hornets-nest-40mm-10x-22lr-adapter/

>>53463358
How the fuck do you unintentionally kill a paleo?

>>53464831
He's probably thinking of Star Vampires.

are burdinadin for bullying?

>>53464831
I don't mean unintentionally--more like inadvertantly. Eskarne has killed some people besides her targets before, and over the years it's conceivable that she'd have ended up facing some people she wasn't expecting. It's possible a Paleolithic Elf was just in the wrong market one day, it's just not strictly canonical yet.

>>53464831
Not real kill, fake kill. Destruction without true death, much like an ascendant I assume.
>>53465726
How exactly do Paleolithics spawn new fauna? Do they randomly form in multiple biomes across Vosca, or just on the corpse? Is it the true final death that spawns a new race, or every death?

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>>53460561
So would I mate.

>>53465774
It is as you say. The new critters form wherever the Paleolithic Elf's normal Resurrection place would be. Each one is different, some location important to them. Sometimes the locations change, but rarely.

>>53467875
he asked an [X] or [Y] question and you responded "Yes," you fucktwit

>>53467983
Sorry, I'm mid session with Claymore & the lads.
For the second part, it is only the true final death which creates a new species.

>>53468047
>4channing mid game
Party foul, Jimjams.
what's the sitrep so far with desert zell?

>>53468345
We took a few breaks, I just forgot to post at some point and didn't want to leave you guys hanging.

Anyway it's been pretty cool. Claymore's running one of the best campaigns of his career, we've got a really mixed party (there are two ascendants, two Din, and two humans) but the balance is actually holding up somehow. We're all good at very different things.

My character is a Zellish woman who was exiled from Rade Sark's fleet for calling him a human-fucker at a meeting. They dropped her off in the desert, with a binding oath of poverty until her exile is complete (ten years.) In her time in the desert moving from town to oasis to town, she became somewhat famous for her ability to hip-throw people through the crust of the Earth, and kids started seeking her out to try and learn Zell-Fu from her.

Now she's hooked up with a Paladin, a Sarturi, an Ohanedin and some human nobles to investigate the ruins beneath the cursed city of Badyah and hip-throw more people. Will she hip-throw a genie? Will she hip-throw ancient sand demons? Will she hip-throw Tomb Kings? Only time will tell.

>>53468744
Exile seems worse when it makes your immortality not work, even if it is only ten years.

>>53468856
It's a very extreme thing to do with a Zell, which is why it's reserved for extreme offenses--like publicly insulting an Admiral-Prince in the worst way possible.

>>53467364
As would I.

>>53463196
And the Roman Empire ended only forty years earlier.

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So, we've pressed a line of inquiry with Jimmy.

Apparently, Dark Fire can be used on Zellislava directly. To animate a dead Zellislava is apparently theoretically possible, but a still living Zellislava deprived of crew is a viable receptacle. According to Jimmy, Zellislava use Pyromancy to operate by default, and would take to the Dark Flame pretty readily. And since Zells treat the Ocean as an infinite well of Flame to draw from, well...

More interestingly, it is possible - if not feasible - to get living zells onto a Dark Zellislava and reestablish a Dream. "Their spirits would need to find a compromise," however, whatever that means.
Speculation continues on what happens if a Zellislava corrupted by Dark Fire shoves a bunch of the stuff straight into the souls of still-living Zells.

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>>53470091
>That would be less apocalyptic
>literally describing a grey goo scenario

>>53470212
Half of infinity still is.

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>>53470091
I fucking love this setting.

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>>53470084

>>53470282
If I'm remembering who this is, she's worst girl.

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>>53470621
ESTELLE IS THE BEST GIRL IF SHE WERE ZELL SHE WOULD SELL

>>53470809
My bad, wrong girl. Just similar visual design. I've never seen Eiyuu Densetsu

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>>53470421
>Jimmy explaining obscure political ideologies
>Switches on a dime to waifus
>Then to religion
>Then back to waifus
>Then to a brief biography of Gregor Strasser
>Then to Battletech

>>53467364
Laugh and grow fat.

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>>53460475
Eskarne would in part be cool because she's this ancient immortal murder-goddess of the setting, but she doesn't seem like the type to actually research stuff or learn things, so she'd have a reason to ask people about stuff. Also, I always imagined her as having a really dry sense of humor because her life is so shit, so you'd get some good dialogue.

>"Have you ever killed a person, elf?"
>"No."

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>>53472304
>What's a Paladin?

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>>53470091
The question is can Zellislava take humanoid shape and walk upright?
>inb4 pyromancers battling in giant zellislava mecha-like suits

>>53474010
/ss/ is cancer

>>53474154
I beg your pardon?

>>53474154
>>53474211
/ss/=straight shota

>>53474245
You are a spoiled person, anon. This isn't what you think it is.

>>53474471
It better not be.

>>53471485
Now you're making me want to hang out in the discord, jerk.

>>53476192
Discord is abomination. Discord kills threads and destroys families.

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>>53472304

>>53472304
>"Why are you doing this, do you kill for pleasure?"
>"There are worse reasons--like mine."

>"Die, you monster!"
>"I'm trying."

>"Please, kill me but let my family go!"
>[The only smile in the game]

Edgy. I'd totally play it.

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How would you handle Menseur in SoS, limit wounds to level 1 if they hit the face only? I don't really know how it's done IRL so that you don't just smash the guy's face in with the saber even if it's blunt, the stuff you hear about happening in war is pretty crazy, are the sabers just made really light?

>>53480497
Tell me more about it.

>>53481223
Well it was a practice among German college students for a while, they'd wear these protective suits that left the cheek open, then they would duel with sabers, and they weren't allowed to stop until one of them backed away (banning him from fraternity forever) or one of them got a cut on the face that would leave a scar.

That's why all those German generals in WWI and II had scars on their cheeks, they had been in these fraternities which mandated menseur as part of the induction process.

The question is how was this not lethal, apparently some guys did this like dozens of times because they thought it was good fun, and so they were hit in the face many times with friggin' swords and lived.

>>53481604
You don't need your cheek to live, you do need the brain above and behind it. This was taking part in a very controlled environment and I'm sure many horrific injuries occurred but humans are pretty durable.

>>53481604
When you are an accomplished and lifelong swordsman you can get pretty good at pulling your hits.

It's a ritual competition with no real repercussions for failure, so there's no reason that either participant would endanger themselves or their opponent for the sake of winning.

>>53481856
There are no rules for pulling your hits in SoS

>>53481880
Sure there is

There's no rule that says you have use your entire dice pool every round

>>53482114
>have STR 10
>roll 2 dice
>both succeed
>bisect someone while expending no effort
Yeah, sure pulled that hit alright.

New video coming up, turns out I do a reasonably good Slavoj Zizek impersonation, so I cut it over some MGSV FOB invasion.

>>53481834
>>53481856
>>53481880
>>53481604
We will include rules for this in the Maneuvers update. For now it should be assumed that you can automatically reduce any wound you inflict by any amount as it is being inflicted. So if you find that you inflicted a level 5 wound, and you want to reduce it to a level 4 or lower, you may. The exception to this is if you have either the Bloodthirsty, Hothead, Complete Monster, Berserker B&Bs, or Natural Born Killer at its highest rank. In compensation we MAY slightly alter the cost of all of those B&Bs.

>>53482389
I don't think any of those need more competitive pricing.

>>53482389
You're going to raise their price because they're currently indespensible boons that everyone takes as well as lower the price of Complete Monster because it gives more benefits than drawbacks, right?

>>53482389
That's air breathing mermaid problem 101

>>53482598
Well yeah, we got that fb, you guys sent it like 250 times.

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>>53482818
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDtIp56POwk
>tfw Jimmy can do an almost perfect impersonation of Slavoj Zizek

>>53483171
He isn't audibly spitting enough phlegm into the air.

>>53483264
You're not audibly sucking enough cock

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>>53483171
Decent run, desu, if it's the same run. I didn't understand a word of the politics though. Anyone want to summarize?

>>53483676
It's pretty much one sentence. "Every time you let people actually do democracy they elect a dictator, so Democracy is actually a revolutionary period between X government and fascism."

I'm not sure Zizek would actually agree but it did sound like something he'd say.

>>53482389
>Complete Monster
Even a socio/psychopath can understand the benefits of keeping someone else alive, even if it's only to be able to continue hurting them later.

>>53483171
Fairly spot on.

>>53483171
>capture cages on an FOB mission
The only animals running around Mother Base are the niggers and they don't fit in those cages Jimmy.

>>53468744
When do we get the next version, Jimmu?

>>53439410
Well obviously there's still Albion. The eternal Anglo will always be a threat. I imagine the cold war scenario going on now must look goofy as fug.

Alright, peep this shitty idea:

Grit? Fuck it. TOU is now (STR+END+HLT+WIL)/4 and functions like grit. Remove TOU and STR from the damage equation. Now damage is weapon damage+BS against AV only. Keep STR in power strike's damage formula, maybe?.

>>53489455
That... Would actually work.

>>53474530
The left one is also a boat

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>>53482389
>Complete Monster
>Natural Born Kller
>Bloodthirsty
I think these shouldn't be on the no lowering rule. Just because they're 300% behind the idea of cutting the other guy half doesn't mean they're so oblivious to their surrounds that they'd do it. Maybe give them a limit to the amount of wound levels that can drop, maybe 1 for Bloodthirsty, 2 for NBK and remove CM from the list. A CM doesn't care whether they live or die, but if it's advantageous to a goal of theirs they'd hold back, much like a Star Vampire might not evicerate someone if they think it will lead to the invention of danish, thus weakening the power of the Kasels as the people begin to think more positively of their neighbours who invented this rad new treat thus shifting the overall power balance to start a new war.

Someone who is bloodthirsty probably has limits to the amount he can lower it, maybe introduce a will test much like an alcoholic can say "I'm not drinking anymore tonight." As for NBK I'm unsure on where to place this, as all their innate muscle memory is telling them go through with it.

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What are popular dishes in Vosca and Ballad?

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Ballad of the Bump

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>>53492364
You were too slow, tank girl

>>53492421
tanks>boats>tank girls>boatsluts

>>53492520
You listed them in reverse order

>>53492529
Looks like you read that post from right to left

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>>53492421
Tanks>Botes
Kirishima>Hiei>Bongou>[The one nobody cares about]
Hiei ni Kai is disappointingly awful

>>53492560
Looks like your post was folded over one billion times

>>53492590
Thank you

>>53492641
You are welcome

>>53492350
Kesh. Kesh is the greatest food, Dace only REEEE.

>>53492350
The Karthacks eat Kesh-Noodles.

The Dacians eat rye bread and mystery meat with insane hot sauce.

The Ohanedin beans, berries, nuts, and occasionally human children.

The Krajini subsist largely on river eels.

>>53492350
Cow's blood mixed with milk, with human thigh in a barbecue sauce

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>>53492350
Here, I'll give you the best meal in Vosca.

>>53493944
What's Crv sauce rightly made from?

>>53494135
That's right there in step ten.

>>53494135
Dunno, ask Jimmy

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>>53489455
Try it out and report back.
>>53489580
Anything would work. But does it work better than what we have now?

>>53496712
Arise chicken! Chicken arise!

>>53494135
in-setting it's made out of some fungus or something that's freakishly spicy. Grows in rivers in Dace.

>>53500423
>fungus
>spicy
Fungi aren't incompetent like plants are. If they're going to be bothered making a chemical to dissuade you from eating them, it'll fucking kill you.

>>53500456
I'm sure Kesh feels the same, but Dacians don't care. If they did, they wouldn't live in that festering shit hole of a country

>>53502034
Yeah, it's made out of the "fruit" of some river fungus, which is a bit weird, maybe it's some hideous mutated shit that the Dacians just decided to eat one day and found out it burns at 300k scovilles.

That shit could be used as a weapon. They should mix it with water and shoot it out of hoses at people like greek fire.

>>53482818
Jimmy! How's the Irish analogue in Ballad? Have they freed themselves from the sassenach yoke?

I imagine a campaign as a Flying Column would be a blast (though maybe not literally, their explosives were notoriously unreliable).

>>53504487
I don't know a lot about Irish history in the 40s, what was going on then? I imagine there'll be some sort of ideological conflict going on in Not!Ireland itself now that the Fascists have taken Europe. It'd make sense to try and separate Albion from their neighbors by funding revolutionaries.

>>53492364
TANK COMBAT WHEN

>>53506640
Never, it's a game about space pirates not tanks

>>53505612
Well they stayed neutral through WWII, but their small mercantile fleet toiled through the gauntlet of all combatant navies, ran SOS missions, and were occasionally attacked. Irish intelligence cooperated with the Allies, and their was even talks for establishing last refuge RAF bases there.

The real fun is a little earlier with the failed Easter Rising in 1916 that was supported by Germany, and the War of Independence 1919 to 1921, where both clandestine urban assassinations and guerrilla warfare* in the countryside coupled with American support of the Irish cause caused the British government to capitulate with the concession that Northern Ireland would be able to vote on whether to remain in the Kingdom (Ulster had been previously depopulated and colonized with British settlers). They unsurprisingly decided to stay British and this sparked a bloody civil war between the former members of the Irish Republican Army.


*Tom Barry, leader of a very successful Flying Column wrote a book called Guerrilla Days in Ireland which has been purported to have been found in enemy camps in Iraq and Afghanistan.

>>53483171
>Slavoj Žižek parroting literally the most famous work on political philosophy ever
>pasted over gameplay that isn't synced to the dialogue at all
It's a good impression but I feel like that shouldn't be the only thing that goes into a video.

Possible topic for the next thread for any knowledgeable anons: How the hell did Italy cock up their military so much in WWII?


>>53507305
It's entertaining, that's all it needs to be.

>>53507305
It's also too intelligible to sound like him.

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>>53507384
Pic very related.

>>53507384
It's all about training and morale. If you say "we're just gonna make an appearance so we say we did" then your soldiers aren't a fighting force. They're just civilians with guns.

>>53507400
Too articulate as well. It takes a lot of work to fuck up at communication as much as he does.

>>53507384
Simply put: their division organisation sucked. Normal divisions if other countries had nearly double the frontline units with more flexible support and reserves. (italian binary division compared to standard triangular and quadruple divisions, italian artillery, mortars etc were chained to BATTAILLION comanders e.g. the guys that have no idea whats going on upfront unlike modern ww2 standard of platoon leaders begging for firesupport) Add to that what looks like highly incompetent leaders and a doctrine based on idiotic ideas from ww1 and you got yourself some ideas. Also i read in an account of some LRDG guys that the Italiens had VERY bad morale to the point of surrendering on enemy sight so that they could return to being 4 star cooks. For more detailed info (or in case i'm wrong, going from memory here, check out some ospreys from /hwg)

>>53507305
What was the speech on, I've been trying to find Zizek actually saying it for real.

>>53507536
Zizek didn't actually say it. Plato wrote a book on it about 2500 years ago though.

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>>53507669
>yfw Christianity and Western culture as a whole is heavily influenced by the father of fashism

>>53507669
Well not only Plato but most agreed with him. I recommend Polybius very interesting thoughts about the state of "republic rome". I.E. Rome = best girl because it combines democracy with oligarchy and monarchy instead of cycling through each one

>>53507384
>How the hell did Italy cock up their military so much in WWII?

Because the guys they were up against weren't as shit as Allied players in War Thunder.

>>53507922
Savage.

>>53507922
At least the Tier 2-3 Brits have some excuse with the shit reverse transmissions. US ones are just idiots.

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>>53509560
Well, there's no Italians on the ground yet, but yeah, basically same deal. Whole lot of people can't figure out how to kill the G.55S despite it basically being a more heavily armed Ki-100.

>>53509648
Give it a few weeks. The line is still technically in closed beta.

New thread, you anus wankers
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>>53510550
fuck's sake why did I put slashes? I'm not linking across boards
>>53510543

Sleep tight, street bike.