Warhammer 40k General /40kg/

>>53391062
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/23/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-death-guard/

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>Also, while we’re on the subject of rules, we’ve some great news – the core rules for Warhammer 40,000 will be available for free! You’ll be able to download the Battle Primer PDF on games-workshop.com and warhammer40000.com from June 17th.

>Core rules will be available for free!
Rejoice Poorfags!! New Games Workshop™ noticed you.

Now the only question is how much the actual rulebook's going to cost everyone, and how badly everyone's wallet is going to bleed money over this...

>>53391108
Disappointing article, essentially just covers how poison and FNP are working in 8th ed and this new toy that reads like a weaker plasmagun. Roll on Thursday for the boyz.

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>>53391233
>GeeDubs released a faction focus on the tyranids before Orks
Honestly at this rate Orks will be the last to get a Faction focus.
How many dice are we rolling anyway? 2d6?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/23/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-death-guard/

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>>53391340
>mfw when I didn't scroll down through the rest of the faction focus and see this.
Frag me I really DO need some morning brew to wake up...

>>53391108
This basically shows the problem I have with """"""bespoke"""""" rules. Death Guard gain what is basically now feel no pain. Guarantee they won't be the only units to have a rule just like it, but it'll be called something else. It's so much easier to name them the same rule, so when your opponent says "they have feel no pain" you can think oh, I know what that is, my units have that, too. Instead, it'll be "I have disgustingly resilient" and then they'll have to explain what it is, and then you say "oh, that's just like my feel no pain rule". USRs were a good thing, and they could keep those while still putting all the rules on the datasheets

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>>53392111
THIS. Plus, they'll fuck up and word one differently, so it usually works one way, but in this edge case that one works differently. Also they'll FAQ them differently.
Source: It's shit GW has done before.

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>>53392111
>Death Guard vs Dark Eldar
>DG: I do three Wounds
>DE: Okay let me roll my Power From Pain
>DG: Power From Pain?
>DE: I roll a d6 for each Unsaved Wound and on a 6+ I ignore it.
>DG: So it's Disgustingly Resilient
>DE: Disgustingly Resilient?
>DG: I roll a d6 for each Unsaved Wound and on a 5+ I ignore it.

>>53394155
You mean just like all the different types of FNP now?

Anyone know how much the new box set will be friend and I are going to be splitting 3 boxes and would be nice to know how much that will be.

>>53394363
>like all the different types of FNP now?
What are they?

Only two spring to mind
>Reanimation Protocols
>Feel No Pain

One is an army specific, the other is pretty universal consistent.

This is probably the dumbest question anyone has ever asked on /tg/, but the news rule book and indexes will have epubs, right? I'm buying a tablet for 8th and I want to make sure it won't be wasted.

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Dark angels aren't gay

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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/23/forge-world-and-the-new-warhammer-40000/

>>53394415
95£

>putting memeguard in the new box
Ruined

>>53394444
Sweet.

>Imperial Agents listed in a rulebook

>no mention of sisters or inquisition. Again.


Into the trash.

free rules we promise guys

New edition, new blood and old WAAC fags got hit on the way out. What a time to be alive.

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>>53394454
I'm from California, stop bullying pls :(

>>53394482
Poxwalkers are Plague zombies but this time they actually have zombie infection mechanics.

>>53394482
Yeah.

>>53391180
>that pic
Honestly in a necromunda style area where different species all mingle, a woman who ingratiated themselves to the local Ork population would be the least rapeable woman there. Nobody would want to fuck with the gal who has a bunch of boyz who owe her a favor.

>>53394486
>and old WAAC fags got hit on the way out.
>and replaced by MOBA kids

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really old pic

so basically I have three weeks to paint the remaining 3000 points of marines I have. Sigh

>>53394517
I am not gay, pls no bully. I'm just trying to play space NSA ok.

>ork article incoming
Prepare your anuses ork bros. Let's see how they fuck this one up.

>>53394528
Everyone who worships Papa Nurgle is always happy.

>>53394519
>tfw you realize 40k 8e is basically a MOBA

>>53394519
Gonna need proof on that. MOBA kids don't have the attention span for the hobby.

>>53394547
No.
The Purge for one are all dour Nihilists.

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>>53394265
As an Eldarfag, being OP is only fun for the first few matches of an edition. After that, the fun of winning in spite of playing sloppy/having shitty rolls followed by nobody playing against you except the most extreme of WAACfags gets old really fast.
I really hope we see new Pheonix lord models in the next year or so though, they're starting to look a bit silly.

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>>53394415

European prices!

>>53394553
>GW thinks DoW III is popular

>>53394534
I assume that stormbolter came in the box.

>>53394542
>Get tourney fag to write article
>"Hey guys! Orks are back! Lootas are great now, bikes are too and the gorka/morkanaut is usable!"
>"I don't know anything else about orks, but you should listen to me hype them!"

Goddammit.

>>53394534
Serves you right for using smegmarine models with your marines, you filthy heretic

>>53394553
Is "They made it like a MOBA" a new meme or something ? Because if people aren't using that sentence in an ironic way ...

>>53394519
The fuck are you on about? First why would 8th attract MOBA players? And second why would their choice of vidya matter?

>>53394534
Take some time away from fucking boipussy and you'll be amazed how much faster your painting goes.

Had a different game today, custom mission: save the warlord. Three players, each had a 'warlord' (objective marker) in one of the others deployment zone which was worth 3 points if you held it at the end, the other 2 were worth one, plus FB SLWL LB etc. 2 aspect-heavy CWE and 1 fairly optimised AdMech+Skittles list, 1100 points each.

Other Eldar player stole initiative from AdMech, I went last. Eldar guy went full-force at
AdMech, killed his 2 Kastelans and 1 Breacher. AdMech dude struck back at him, killed his Serpent and a couple scatbikes, plus 2 of my Scorpions. On my turn I bagged 2 Breachers and some of his sniper dudes, I forget their name, plus assualted Eldar guys Warp Spiders with the Scorps and killed 3 out of 5, they failed their H&R.

Turn 2, Eldar 1 and AdMech kept hammering at each other, my army was mostly untouched. From here on I pretty much kerbstomped, took out the Dunecrawler with my Hornet, took out a shitload of Dire Avengers with a lucky Prism Cannon shot, killed the rest of the snipers and Breachers with Vypers and Bikes.

I learned today that 40k does not lend itself well to 3-way battles, the game was pretty much over by turn 3. You guys have any good games lately?

>>53394602
>First why would 8th attract MOBA players?
More kid-friendly rules and models, same gameplay (each unit now have shitton of special rules (aka abilities))

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>>53394598
This is my skin

>>53394598
S...s...stop!

>>53394580
It's like 185 AUD, I can definitely swing that.

>>53394625

Oh come on. MOBAs are a completely different thing. They're fast paced and reflex based, not a tabletop game.

>>53394629
Oh so your a dark chinky
Thailand perhaps?

>>53394630
>Sorry, she's too busy getting BLACKED and BLEACHED.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ilr3loNfm0

>>53394482
Extremely ugly, that's what they are. I like a few of the sculpts, but 8/10 just look horrible. Look at those hands! And the fucking poses. And some of those spikes sticking out of them just look very shittily designed. Look at the arm of the guy in the gimpmask and tell me that looks good in any way at all.

Fucking report this autistic cunt into oblivion it is worst than the faggot DA.

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>>53394625
>Each unit now have shitton of special rules
>Deathleaper 6th edition

>>53394625
>MOBA
>Kid-friendly rules

Somebody has no idea what MOBA's are, or thinks that Heroes of the Storm is one.

There are no 'lanes', no 'minions', no 'towers' that need defending in 8th edition.

>>53394593
it was one of the arms from the DV terminators I think, along with a banner topper from somewhere. I think it makes a nice terminator chaplain.

>>53394603
no memes please

>>53394515
>Nobody would want to fuck with the gal who has a bunch of boyz who owe her a favor.
>implying Orks like those shifty Blood Axes wouldn't try to use that gal as a way to make stronger Digga cannon fodder or something
Both scenarios are equally as likely, to be honest.

As someone who owns Dark Angels I can assure you they are very gay.

>>53394662
>>53394657
>>53394632
>>53394630
>>53394629
>>53394598
>>53394560

The fuck is going on in this thread.

>>53394534

I unironically play stormcast and I think that relictor looks like shit in a marine army

You've drank the sigmarine meme too literally

>>53394690
The Rock is an ex wrestler dude even I know that. How could he be a gay bar?

>>53394655
>They're fast paced
So just like 8th edition promising to be.

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>>53394598
it was dark and I used a flash. Also my hair is blond and my eyes are green and my father had both blue eyes and half my brothers. I'm more white than you will ever be you coon.

>>53394580
So if euros roughly equal US Dollars like they did in the past, we're talking

>$45 main rulebook (with all the old expansion books like cities of death and planetstrike included)
>$20 "codexes" covering multiple factions
>Starter box price is roughly the same as always

Nice, $45 is about average for a hardback rulebook in the 280 page range with that much stuff in it, and the codexes at $20 is about right too.

GW prices matching the industry standard for the most part, be still my beating heart. Now we just need model prices to go down a bit and the ruleset to not suck and GW could actually get back on top.

>>53394714
Autistic melt down. We have an increasing number of those recently.

Report and move along

>>53394747
>boipussy
>t.kraut

>>53394610
Played a 2v1 game at 1500pts. My Iron Warriors and a friend's Blood Angels teamed up with 750 points each to fight 1500 of Orks. I lost six regular marines and my Termi sorcerer warlord. The BAngels player lost most of his terminators and a large number of tacticals.

In the end my Contemptor proved pivotal in surviving lots of enemy attacks and destroyed two eight man squads of lootas and burnas along with their truks. One lone chaos marines survived melee combat with a biker warboss just long enough for both of our Terminator squads to get in and relieve the warboss of his head. I made a disgusting number of FnP rolls against the lootas.

>>53394759
I just want people to leave DA alone man

>>53394576
you're either shit at understanding or explaining what you're saying

explain why I can't make yellow from mixing green and red

>>53394714
Tsundere Dark Angels orgy.

>>53394685
>implying DotA and LoL isn't full of kids

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>>53394714
School's out for kids, summertime is here.
There is no escape. We should come back in a few months when everything's cleared out.

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>>53394714
Some cunt of an anon is shitting up the thread bashing a Dark Angels player because he can. Was shitting up the other previous general with this extreme retardation too.

a less old but still old pic, quality of photo is super crappy

>>53394723
sorry

>>53394739
>MOBAs are fast and this game only takes two hours instead of three! So fast!

Are you just grasping at straws?

>>53394796
>westerner
>Not a cuckold
pick one.

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>>53394625
>each unit now have shitton of special rules (aka abilities


So Fantasy, is warhammer fantasy a MOBA now?

>>53394792
Summer never ends now that plebbit links 1d4chan as legit tactic for 40k.
Since the fucks think 4chan is nothing but shitposting. We are getting the retarded people from other sites in droves

>>53394800
Going off how the guy types it might actually be DAfag's ban expired and he's shitting up the thread in angery.

Just report and ignore.

>>53394748

Mind you that the warhammer community post says that these are "indexes", and that single factions will have individual codexes sooner or later. I suppose that along with new releases or rule changes they'll make updated single codexes. These are the 1.0 codexes for 8th.

>>53394707
Aren't diggas only on one planet?

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>>53394805
whoops

>>53394876
Other anons are correct, just report and ignore.

>>53394834
Well, great. So this is something we just have to deal with regularly now?

>>53394876
no, avatarposting is further shitposting

report and go on

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>>53394876
Cheetahfag is the hero we have. Not the one we want.

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>>53394712
they just have a dark and unforgivable secret. At least they aren't all in your face about it like Blood Angels

>>53394857
That's an odd fetish

>>53394576
>a mixture of green and red
No, that's called Brown.

>>53394833
>So Fantasy
Nope, they used universal rules from rulebook

>>53394917
Top Kek.

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Did I fix it?

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>>53394869
>Aren't diggas only on one planet?
Based on the encounter by some Blood angels on a captured Imperial ship when they were attacked by feral, Ork-worshipping humans during the Beast Arises novels, some people have treated digga as a catch-all term for 'humies who worship Orks/Gork n' Mork'.
Or Wulfen.

How important is getting the full rules going to be? I'm new and would prefer $50 of models vs the book.

>>53394941
Pfft, hahaha.

>>53394941
So, if they have two guns how do they stab people? Have space marines become dishonorable Tau?

So are the blood ravens the gypsys of 40k?

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>>53394941
Perfect in every way.

>>53394969
Yes

>>53394902
It has been like this for a wild now.
8th has made it worst thou.

Anti-skub and pro-skub are having a melt down and since they can't really autistic post this hard in Reddit or Facebook they come here.

Blood angels are way more gay than dark angels

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>>53394965
Heresy.

>>53394956
>How important is getting the full rules going to be?
Full rules have more advanced scenarios and 8e lore from what I understand.

You're fine if you don't want that?

>>53394931
First of all 8th edition isn't the only existence of fantasy.

Fantasy is awash with their own unique rules per army, and per unit.

Hell, look at 6th edition Tomb kings which had their own completely separate magic rules.

>>53394965
They are trying to be as cool as Seraphims, but fail miserable on the looks.

Sad when you think about it, decade old models did it better

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>tfw Gathering Storm and 8e actually made me really like Girlyman

>>53395030
>>53394956

Also you get to read how the different "playing modes" work.

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>>53394965
>Stab
They have jetpacks, huge boots and 800 pounds of armour.

>>53395011
I bet they dont even use melee weapons they just punch and kick their enemies to death.

>>53395037
>gathering storm
whytho

The only semi-ok character was hilarious ball and even he was sort of supporting cast.

>>53394965
Here's a question
Which founding chapter would get the biggest hardon from them?

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>>53395037
But the codex astartes was fucking gay.

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>>53395074

>>53395037
I would pay good money to find out that the Emperor without his ability to make himself look however he wants is just a dumpy, balding Danny Devito.

>>53395059
Probably dualwield there guns and swing them as clubs.

>>53395074
Said the most codex complient chapter.

>>53395074
You guys are still lumped in with the rest of the marines in the new Index haha

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>>53395036
speaking of the Sisters, are the Nuns with Guns getting any love in 8th? Any mentions, or rules, or models? I'd love to finally have some plastic girls.

>>53395037
>YES I CAN
>I WILL RUIN THIS UNVERSE BEFORE ABBADON!

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>little Timmy and his brother little Jimmy get their mom to finally buy them some 40k stuff
>they get the starter set, one copy of the relevant codexes, and the starter Build and Paint set for Christmas
>little Jimmy excitedly begins assembling and painting his Primaris Marines
>meanwhile
>little Timmy holds a paint brush for the first time since kindergarten watercolors
>assembles his models
>gathers his paints
>and for the first model he will ever paint in his entire life
>prepares to paint pic related

>>53395071
I would say Nightlords, but without melee weapons you can't skin people. Raven Guard are big on jump packs, but are also big into slashing people up. Maybe White Scars? I would think they would like the speed factor.

>>53395124
>speaking of the Sisters, are the Nuns with Guns getting any love in 8th? Any mentions, or rules, or models?
Squatted as army

>>53394995
>not bigmarines using littlemarines as weapons

SWING ME LIKE A SWORD BROTHER CHAD

>>53395124
They are bundle in Imperial Agents.
No new models this years.
We are getting a faction focus before the release

That's about it

>>53395134
Trial by fire, Timmy.

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>>53395091
If you have enough teef, you can get Orks to believe ANYTHING (well, Bad Moonz anyway).

And we all know what happens when enough Orks believe in something...
>post yfw power of Ork belief turns the Emperor of Mankind into a dumpy, balding Danny Devito

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I wonder how long it is until the /40kg/ shit posting reaches the tipping point and creates a chaos god of Impotent rage and autism.

Slaanesh when?

>>53395134
I started with Dark Vengeance.

We don't talk about those models.

>>53395098
Yes, you'll make funny comic villains for primaris marines to beat.

>>53395134
... Holy fuck he's blowing.
That's a corrosive breath spell.
I hated the sorceror and now I love him.

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>>53395089
>>53395104
>>53395115
4Th edition Templar codex says we are codex divergent, anything pointing to the contrary is chaos propaganda.

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>>53395173
We already have Khorne, what more could you want?

>>53395134
it isn't like the really old starter models were much easier for kids

>>53395134
I started with fully assembled Vanguard and Tech-Priest Dominus, that's not TOO much worse.

>>53395192
I mean hell even the least codex divergant chapter gets his own section.

>>53395160
i think there will only be a imperial agents faction focus which includes sisters

>>53395173
>Impotent rage and autism.
Great and orange with itsy bitsy teeny weenie hands.

>>53395134
What can man do against such reckless THICC?

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>>53395160
>>53395153
Relevant and depressing, if a bit old.

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>>53395203
duck recaptcha

>>53395192
Shouldn't you be helping your psyker and eldar friends while retreating from fighting chaos like a bunch of sissies?

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>>53395037
>Guilliman’s anger spilled over, and he span on his heel, staring up at the woven Emperor with accusing eyes.
>‘Why do I still live,’ he snarled. ‘What more do you want from me? I gave everything I had to you, to them. Look what they’ve made of our dream!
>This bloated, rotting carcass of an empire is driven not by reason and hope but by fear, hate, and ignorance!
>Better that we had all burned in the fires of Horus’ ambition than live to see this.’

>>53395222
They did mention a SoB specific, but GW is GW.

>>53395191
Oh shit.
I thought he just had a retarded face.

>>53395098
And everyone can just decide to walk away from a fistfight now :^)

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>>53395231
>>53395218
Mfw there will never be a black Templar codex again.

Why even live.

>>53395248
Damn, when did he say that? I actually feel for him.

Noob question inbound.
Since Custodes are one of the latest releases, I'd like to use them as my army.
Are full Custodes armies actually feasible? Do I just go without HQ? Do ForgeWorld models have usable rules for 40k / will they be usable for Eight?

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Bet you didn't expect that twist!

What the hell is the draw of the Death Guard? Space Marines but with disease, cool and thematic for sure, but amazing enough to be the poster boy for the newest edition of the game?

I mean, the only real justification I can come up with for this is that it's really symbolic what with girlyman representing innovation and adaptation and the death guard representing stagnation.

>>53395283
I mean there will never be any codexes ever again

>>53395248
>Guilliman is Punished Snake
>Emperor is cripple Miller
>Horus is Zero
>Abaddon is Skullface

Who's Ocelot?

>>53395303
>Since Custodes are one of the latest releases, I'd like to use them as my army.
FYI, The other army I liked was Grey Knights but I feel like their models are dated and may be replaced soon, but I may be wrong.. Let me know about this too

>>53394428
cybernetic implants

>>53395303
Yes they will be useable for 8th.

They are hyper elite, so every loss is gonna hurt, and they lack dedicated AT in 40k.

>>53395322
They're specifically bringing out codexes.

Indexes are just placeholders.

>>53395331
Who's the blandest guy in 40k? That's the V's Ocelot.

>>53395331
Cypher?

>>53395322
Codex's aren't gone.

>>53395332
>>53395303
>Are full Custodes armies actually feasible?
yes but only in 30k atm

>>53395248
>Guilliman’s anger spilled over, and he span on his heel, staring up at the woven Emperor with accusing eyes.
>‘Why do I still live,’ he snarled. ‘Just to suffer?’

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>Necrons pylons being destroyed left and right
>their precious order and reality are being ravaged beyond repair
>still no word from the Necrons. No news or new lore about them
>just focus on the Imperial scum

This is getting tiresome guys.

>>53394474
idk man try playing a real army.

>>53395351
Ah... i must of miss read then.

>>53395146
I can see some mongol motherfucker clipped in with a huge grin like 'Now dis is pod racin'

>>53395352
Chapter master Tu'shan?

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>>53395296
It's sad that chaos has stayed more true to the xenophobia than the Imperium.

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>>53395408
>alpharius
>chaos
Choose one

>>53395368
That is why the the hole Pylons being important thing falls flat.

If Chaos is so bad and Pylons are in place to contain the eye. Why the fuck didn't the Necrons went full force against chaos during the GS.

Not even Eldar care about them. Almost like no one takes Chaos seriously.

>>53395421
Why would there even bee alpha marine possessed?

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>>53395421
>t.

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>>53395450
Cause he can

>>53395368
I bet yours will be after the Orkz on thurs

>>53395104
>>53395192

The Templars are still Codex divergent, guys. Pop open the 7th edition SM Codex and read their fluff section.

They just don't mind Astropaths and Navigators now, which IMO isn't that bad, makes sense seeing as they've fleet based.

>>53395479
вapп-тpeд изыди

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Bad news, they actually are wrongly scaled.

I mean, their upper bodies are identical in size, so I guess that extra wound is all in the legs.

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>>53395527
Vas ploho slishno psshhh

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>>53395437
>Not even Eldar care about them.

I wonder what's your problem? Do you enjoy being a cunt for being a cunt's sake? Gathering Storm has the Eldar defending the remaining Pylons.

The issue with the Necrons is that they are Newcrons which means they are retarded because you guys wanted them to have "personality". So instead of getting shit done, they act like autistics and play with their legos I mean like the Royal Court of Thanatos aka Keepers of the Celestial Orrey who in their wisedom knew about the threat of the Eye of Terror and the plight of the Pylons but choose to do nothing because their job as custodians of the galaxy means that they must cling to inaction. The fuck does that make any sense.

I blame you fucks and anyone who supports the Newcron retcon. Now get out.

>>53395348
Thanks, What do you mean by AT? I like the concept of an elite army

>>53395361
Thanks. Do you mean fw's model have only rules for 30k? The 40k codex only shows standard custodes, dreadnought and land raider rules.

>>53394916
My main army is Black Templars so I'm a little iffy about them

>>53395468
While this is true, the Imperium is just suppose to be some lesser evil, like the IRS or David Hasselhoff. Slowly they've seem to be put in a brighter and brighter light. While chaos is going full saturday morning cartoon villian.

>>53395514
Haven't read gathering storm yet but I think they have been changed to be all up on girlymans dick.

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>>53395037
>Using the Divine Right pic.

I love you.

>>53395559
yeah exactly
we might see all their grav vehicles ported to 40k at some point but that's quite a bit away
you can play 30k perfectly fine against 7th ed 40k though there are some minor balance issues based on the point values you're playing at

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>>53395541
чecaлкa
>>53395564
my nigga

Should I blow my brains out, /tg/? Also, should I split the new starter box with resident chaos bro to start my black templar force?

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>>53395564
Hello brother.

>girlyman uses ancient eldar technology to revive the Emperor

What are his first words?

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>>53395450
>dying after a battle
>demon bro appears in your mind
>asks if you want to live
>say yes
>fuse into one being and become possessed

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>>53395529

>>53395609
> start my black templar force
> no black templars in SM index

>>53395529
The proportions look alright to me.

Some of the legs are posed awkwardly and Inceptors and Gravis look like steaming shit but I still like the Intercessors and Hellblasters.

>dark angels spammer got banned
fucking finally holy fuck

>>53395529
Nice bait for newfriends. I should save this.

>>53395630
Velius?

>>53395609
That's what I'm doing.

>>53395575
>While chaos is going full saturday morning cartoon villian.
they always where , stop deluding yourself

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Do we know the new rules for Line of Sight yet?

>>53395321
They are the most obviously 'bad guy' chaos marines. They are short, fat, covered in pimples and smell bad. Perfect targets for the handsome chad marines to kick the crap out of.

>>53395653
They aren't squatted, they were rolled into the main SM Dex in 6th, malign them a chapter tactic with a unique troop unit and characters rather than their own faction. It was the same in 7th, and so it will be in 8th. That's why their name isn't on the front of the Index.

Less than 4 weeks until we find out orks are still garbo tier

>>53395609
Although I already have a ton of BT so I'm just going to be expanding my BT army

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So new novel is coming out about set after the Gathering Storm abouyt Ultramar being besieged by the 7th Legion also known as the Death Guard.

This raises a lot of question one of them is....WHY DOES MORTY HAS SUCH A GRUDGE ON GIRLY? They barely interacted in the HH. One would think that Morty would go after the Grey Knights after his humbling at their hands. This was hinted at in the Pandorax material and Plague Grenade lore. But suddenly we see him going after Ultramar for no raisen.

Anyways new Guy Haley novel so it got my hype.

>>53394625
>when people who can't just admit they don't like something have to talk out their ass in order to justify their dislike
Just say you don't like somethng instead of making yourself look like a Fucking retard

>>53395609

See my reply to >>53395653

>>53395730

Who cares? This is post-Primarch return lore, nobody's even going to read it.

>>53395726
You mean in less than two days?
>Granted the teaser might reveal nothing. Ala CSM.

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>>53395725
Even fukken chapters got theit unic units. And half of legions dont
I know cultists was this unit, but we not in 3.5

Do we have any teasers of other army rules yet? Really interested to see Tyranid stuff.

>>53394663
Could not disagree more. I usually hate the plague aesthetic but these guys are amazing figures. One is a doctor, one has a knife strapped to the back of his gun and is using it as a halberd, the poses are dynamic and cool. Lots of neat details.

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>>53395037
>>53395129
>>53395248

>The Great Rift eventually to consume the entire galaxy
>Chaos Gods are basking in the victory over Guilliman's Imperium and the materium as a whole (Slaanesh is getting her fill of Eldar souls)
>suddenly a deep rumbling shakes through the whole Warp
>"WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!"
>Chaos Gods suddenly realize that they just brought the ENTIRE ORK RACE into the Warp, directly linking the most violent race in the galaxy to their already powerful, incredibly violent gods
>Warp is now full with countless Tuska Daemon-Killas going on an endless daemon slaughter spree, and Gork n' Mork are fueling them directly now that there's no materium left to observe

....I'm gonna file this under "Definitely NOT As Planned."

>>53394443
I want my Marauder Bomber! I want 10d6 S6 AP-1 Dd3 bombs!

Unless large blasts get more than a D6. Given that some people were saying GW had downgraded the battle cannon to a small blast equivalent and grenades having D6 attacks I wouldn't be surprised if we got 2D6 for a true large blast

In which case:

>I want my 20d6 S6 AP-1 Dd3 bombing run!

>>53395754
Same guy as above, I misread the statement of >>53395653 and thought he was saying BT were squatted.

Sorry fellow BT anon

>>53395776
What was the Alpha legions special unit in 30k?

>>53395730

GW just wants to force whatever new Chaos force is having a highlight to fight against Ultras

How much shit has Ultramarines got so far in late 41st? Black Legion, Tyranids and now they're trying to fill Death Guard too on Ultramar's already filled timeline.

>>53395788
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/21/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-tyranids/

Try checking the site, senpai

So now that the DAngels boogeyman autist is gone, can we discuss how GW will make Deathwing great again in 8e?

The fact that they don't auto-lose turn one is already a huge improvement.

>>53395776
But we do have unique units. We have Crusader squads and three characters. We just aren't our own Codex. That's a shame, sure, but we still have our unique units and characters.

>>53395827
>The fact that they don't auto-lose turn one is already a huge improvement.

But only half can Deep Strike. Which is a huge blow.

>>53395795
This is actually how I want the orkz to end as a race if they ever do an end times

The asspain would be incredible if it was Orkz who got to cut the galaxy off from the immaterium rifts forever

>>53395800 fuck, same guy again. I actually meant this anon:
>>53395609

>>53395192
U..u uphold the hh...honour of the emmmmperor....ssu suffer nnot the unclean.....tt to live......

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>>53395805
Headhunter Kill Teams, Lernaean Terminators Squad
>>53395829
Why legions dont have even this? Only TS and DG got this now

>>53395844
True. Footslogging DW is still going to be borderline impossible thanks to that.

A way to get around that is to field half of shooty terminator squads and field half of assault terminators/knights. That would work pretty well but it would mean having to rework army lists since one of the huge bonuses of DW was the ability to mix and match wargear....

>>53395827
They'll be called primaris terminators and they are better at everything your deadwing could do.

Is it true that in 8the you have to deploy atleast half your army and can't start of with everything in reserve. If so my very large black Templar drop pod army just got fucked.

>>53395915
kys

>>53395514
>They just don't mind Astropaths and Navigators now, which IMO isn't that bad, makes sense seeing as they've fleet based.

But before they were Navigatorless (Mutant AND a Witch) so they did warp trips blind.

Which is also why they were huge prior to the retcon. As they had to be legion strength to lose thousands of Marines per warp jump.

>>53395712
Seems like it depends on the model type to some extent. Cities of death preview said infantry get cover bonus from being in an area of ruins, but other models have to be obscured by the terrain.

Seems like facing is gone and maybe fire arcs too.

>>53395940
Yep

>>53395576
They celebrated his return, but that makes sense because he's a fucking Primarch. Any Marine chapter, even the BT who don't adhere to the Codex's organizational structure, would celebrate that.

They don't say "alright we are adopting the Codex now sorry Mr Guilliman we won't have Crusader squads anymore"

>>53395811
Shit, nice.

That Swarmlord looks like he can dish out those wounds though. Seven attacks hitting on a 2+ with a -3 and d6 damage a piece? Christ almighty.

>>53395882
Then just give them those. It would be cool to see those.

>>53395730
Price?

>>53395961
Oh okay.

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>>53391062

Wait, since manlet marines can become primaris marines, do you think that some of the first wave primaris marines with guilliman could be actual heresy era veterans?

>>53395827
>>53395885
Add special "Prance around" move that goes further but only allows charging male models. Also a special leather suit wargear with 6+ FNP for attacks from behind.

>>53395975
Or just give us this rule from 30k
> The Rewards of Treason
>
> May select a Legion specific unit normally allowed only to another Space Marine Legion as an Elite choice on their Force Organization chart
> Have all their unit specific equipment and special rules to include Legion Astartes (Alpha Legion) special rule

>>53395954
I read the 4th edition BT Codex a couple weeks ago, I recall a section that said they do have Navigators and Astropaths, but they're essentially required to hate themselves for being psykers.

>>53395730
Morty's going after the only loyalist Primarch left. It's not complicated.

>>53395975
Yeah, pretty much vanguard vets with millennia of experience and daemonic ammunition variants.

Man.. vanguard vets with cobmi bolters..
Ouch.

>the new Plague Marines are just for a starter box set
FUCKING

FUCK

YOU

GEEEE DOUBLEYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEUUUUUUUUWWWW

>>53396001
Russ is alive though and he has been traveling around the galaxy while Girlyman was in stasis. Yet morty didn't go after him. Checkmate.

>>53395885
Exactly. It kinda sucks.

>I'm not a Deathwing player, but a Terminator-heavy Grey Knight, so running into the same issues as you.

>>53395990
anon pls

>>53396016
> no termies from video
You get it?

>>53395959
Well fucking shit. Atleast the drop pod army is my fluffy list and not my competitive one.

>>53396016
They're are some dudes in the Death Guard video that aren't in the starter set. GW themselves pointed this out on FB.

They'll get a standalone kit later, just like Primaris Marines.

>>53396031
Shhh. He's gone over to Khorne now.

>>53395772
A faction focus isn't nearly enough information to judge an army's overall effectiveness on. People are getting excited by the previews, but they are just little glimpses lacking context.

Sure, if they say 'orks get mob rule which lets them substitute the number of models in a unit for their leadership during morale tests', that would be a good sign and if they said 'you get +1 Ld if you have twenty orks in a unit' that would be a bad one, but it's still possible for points costs to make up for rules like that.

>>53396017
How do you know he didn't?

>>53395986
Probably Sicarius will be the first due to his hunger for glory (and loyalty to the Ultramarines) then we'll see a trickle after that. I fully expect none of the non/less compliant chapters' characters to get Primed. Logan, Dante, Helbrecht, and the like will remain regular marines.

>>53395949
Oh right, sorry. DA...you'll get warp talons and mutilators.

>>53396064

Sure but I'm wondering if some of these primaris marines will be astartes who fought in the heresy

Are Custodes / Sisters of silence models the same for all boxed sets (burning of prospero vs talons of the emperor vs single unit box)?
What is the most cost effective set to collect a full army?

>>53396088
aside from Björn, who is in a dreadnaught, there aren't many of those left.

>>53396088
I don't think there are any Heresy veterans that haven't been interned in Dreadnoughts around.

>>53396088
I don't think any loyalists that fought in the HH are alive aside from those interred in Dreadnoughts.

>>53396076
b-b-but we're not n-night lords....

>>53396109
Yes they're the same and depends on what you consider a "full army" to be.

>>53396111

I know I'm talking about the primaris marines who have been on ice for 10,000 years

>>53396129
There are some, but none that would go through the process of becoming primaris.

>>53395827
Probably give them the option to take plasma blasters and give the Knights an extra wound.

>>53396111
>>53396129
He's asking if any of the Prime Marines were Heresy era Marines that got Supersized before being put in the back of Cawl's refrigerator for 10,000 years.

I wonder how easy it I'll be to mix: Nurgle/Chaos cultist, GSC, Inquisition and SoB.

Yes I was a silly man than that try to run abhuman and Mutant loyalist army

>>53396157
Knights having an extra wound would be great and I'd be slightly surprised if it didn't happen. The plasma blasters thing would mean I'd have to rebuy my entire Deathwing army though...

>>53396158
Ah. That is a good question. I suppose it depends on if those guys in the tubes have been there the whole time.

alright you fat fucks

>your army
>favourite army to play against
>least favourite army to play against

Me:
>Imp Guard
>Orks (half because i don't have to think too hard, half because the players tend to be bros)
>Tau (self explanatory) >>53396148

>>53396161
not sure about the rules angle, but from a fluff pov you could probably call them a last ditch effort PDF formed from hivescum or something

>>53396196
>>53396148
sorry for the (you) writing on mobile

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Autocannon or multimelta for a Helbrute?

>>53396196
>dark angels
>CSM, preferably cult marines because those always throw curveballs that make things more interesting
>fucking tau

>>53396228
Rotor

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>>53396228

>>53396228
Rotor cannon obviously

>>53396196
Orks, Death guard, Deathwatch, Eldar
Tyranids, lots of variety in units sizes and stats.
Necrons, Just borung

>>53396196
>your army
Iron Warriors Chaos Marines (More renegades as far as fluff goes)
>favorite army to play against
Orks. I love facing massive Hordes with a small number of elite units.
>least favorite army to play against
Tau. Why even bother? It's two turns of removing my models followed by capitulation. For some reason I can't make a 3+ to save my life against them.

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>>53395854
>This is actually how I want the orkz to end as a race if they ever do an end times
>Orks maintain their eternal win-state of always being able to find a fight while fucking over whoever wins between the Imperium wankfest
This would be just glorious. Especially the thought of the Big Four's plans getting Grimgor'd by Gork n' Mork at the very last second.
>The asspain would be incredible if it was Orkz who got to cut the galaxy off from the immaterium rifts forever
No kidding. The two 'main factions' of the 'storyline' getting btfo'd by the so-called 'humor relief' race right at the very end would indeed cause anal devastation the likes of which we have never seen.

>>53396215
The fluff reason is rather easy to do.

Hell a Mutant crusade would be something Argent Shroud SoB could do.
Live like a Mutant
Die like a Martyre
Dine at the Emperor's table

Or something like that

>>53396236
>>53396244
Autocannons do not rotate.

>>53396196
Literally the same. I love footslogging orks vs footslogging guard. Just guns coming out of guns.

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Cute

>>53396285
No, not autocannon, rotor cannon.

>>53396196
>your army
All of them. Seriously, I have no impulse control. The only thing I didn't buy into are Eldar.
>favourite army to play against
>least favourite army to play against
Haven't played in over a decade.
I'm busy fighting my backlog.

I need to know two things my fellow fa/tg/uys.

One, does shooting a unit with a weapon that double their toughness instakill them still and two if not does this mean I can finally field my Nid Warrior heavy army and not auto-lose?

>>53396196
Black Templars.
Orks.
Tau,Eldar.

>>53396228
>>53396236
>>53396244

I have come to identify you two, the brap / rotor cannon posters among this helbrute guy.

All I can is ask why you three keep shitposting.

>>53396295
How are you going to put a rotor cannon on a Helbrute?

>>53396196

Black Templars, although I have a small AdMech force that I haven't gotten around to playing with yet.

Don't know really, I haven't played enough games to really know

Horde armies I suppose. Fighting them as a melee army can be a bit tiresome, as I have found it to be particularly time consuming.

>>53396285
Dats a serious problem. We must fix this
>>53396308
I found this funny as 1st time.

>>53396196
Slaaneshi Mariens
Dark Eldar
Tau

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>>53396291

>>your army

Tau

>>favourite army to play against
Tyranids or whichever horde army. I'm not a competitive player or a good player whatsoever, i lost most of the times against my friends who play necrons and tyranids. But I won a few games which were pretty close and the feeling of helplessness from an horde army charging at you is awesome!

>>least favourite army to play against
Maybe necrons? I hate the reanimation protocol, but i basically like every army and facing them. This is probably because my local meta hates cheese.

>want to make excited CSM post
>cant actually think of anything because don't play cult legion
>i have no mouth and I must scream

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>>53396191

I think it'd be cool, it would actually be a great explanation for why my 30k white scars space pirate khan went missing

>>53396291
Wait...is that Ork a GW employee?

>>53396303
1.No
2. Nids suck. Just burn your army and buy some tau instead.
I kid. Not sure on Warrior's specifically, but based on the Faction focus GW did on the nids as a whole, you won't be auto-losing any more (no body will in 8e, in theory).

>>53396064
>I fully expect none of the non/less compliant chapters' characters to get Primed. Logan, Dante, Helbrecht, and the like will remain regular marines.
I don't think it's going to have much to do with codex compliance. There will be primaris space wolves. The only reason I expect Logan to remain small is that he's a plastic kit already.

>>53396336
Is that meant to be a necron or a genestealer in the middle?

>>53396196
SoB, Inquisition, Imperial Guard. Nurgle, Tau and BT

I really enjoy facing horde armies.

Gunlines are so boring to face.

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>>53396348
We just need rules from HH. Or unique units

>>53396196
>your army
Imperial Guard.
>favourite army to play against
Orks
>least favourite army to play against
Chaos.

>>53394915
This. Cheetahfag was infinitely easier to deal with than the current scum

>>53394965
Masters of the gunkata

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>>53396196

>your army

Daemonhunters

It's way easier to say than Imperials agents, Astra Militarum, Tempestus Scions, Grey Knights

>favorite to play against

Guess.

>least favorite to play against

Tau

>>53396196
Black Templars
Chaos (I haven't played against much)
Astra Militarum, my friend fields two tanks that are really good at turning my Marines into pulp because I was too stupid to buy metal boxes.

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>>53396325

>People come to try and get advice.
>Get shitposted instead.

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>>53396348
Just praise the Lord of Iron and go about your day.

Oh shit, UK threat level raised to critical, troops deployed to help police.

Hope they don't bomb my GW shop.

>>53396228
Honestly I'd say multimelta, just because melta seem very useful in the next edition while the autocannon is a mix between anti infantry and anti large where for the infantry you've got the rest of the army and the melta will deal better against the large

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Ork boyz are going to be M:4 WS:3+ BS:5+ S:3 T:4 W:1 A:3 Ld:7 Sv:6+

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>>53396373
>CSM get vanilla assault Marines
>Raptors become Night Lord unit
>chain glaives become a thing in 40k
>+1S Ap-2(-4 on 6)
>now with +1 attack because chain

I would be so happy

>>53394965
the same combat knife that tactical marines use. Remember space marine armor does have magnetic holsters. They holster their pistols pull out their knife and shack someone. Sadly assault marines are better in close combat because of chainswords and numbers.

If I get covered in 'umie blood, does I go fasta?

>>53396450
You forgot about special rule
>i2

>>53396462
Red makes everything faster.

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I just realized primaris marines are almost guaranteed to get jet bikes

>>53396196
>tyranids
>necrons
because they aren't afraid of meeting you midfield and I've had some nice back and forth with them
>guard
because gunline army is fucking boring and often require cheese to get through

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They actually made a fidget spinner.

>>53396034
Pretty reasonable to have a black templar recon force on ground and then calling in large drop pod reinforcement when they meet a significant enemy presence. Makes sense to me. Just put a few of your units on the table to start.

>>53396367
My thought is the culture of isolationism is very influential in non-compliant Chapters. Due to their "deviancy" they've had to come to rely on themselves. Because of that they, like the Imperium as a whole, don't like change. The addition of a new type of Marine will likely be received in much the same manner as a modified tank is by the Admech. It may in time become accepted, but at first the detractors are going to be in the majority.

New player here, are markerlights required for a Tau army to be strong? I don't have pathfinders and I'm not using Shas’ui's in my FW squads. If I'm lacking should I just get markerlights on all my drones?

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>>53396358
>Wait...is that Ork a GW employee?
Normally I'd say no since he clearly isn't from the Bad Moonz klan (the most 'teef'-obsessed Orks out there), but since his uniform looks mildly Freeboota/Blood Axe-y... maybe?
^[ I am clearly overthinking things here]
But yeah, I could totally see the Ork being the GW employee. Same with the Ultrasmurf, honestly.
The Guardsman is obviously a noob though.

>>53396064
Every new marine unit update will be primaris scale. So whenever they decide to resculpt those dudes, they'll grow. Could be 5 years from now for some of them who knows.

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Dr Cawl, i am Chaos

>>53396488
I need someone to explain to me why these things are fucking popular

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>>53396458
>Termies with culverine and phosphor grenades
>headhunters with acid bullets
>infiltrating drednoughts

>>53396528
>that gun censoring his pus-crusted, crooked boner

How do I avoid gunline Guard? I want to start an army for 8th but I'd prefer to focus on mobility and hitting hard up close rather than a line of men followed by a line of tanks.

>>53396518
It's just from his Red Shirt
to his stance looking over these people pouring over their things painting and readying themselves.
To his cold observance he looks like a GW employee trying to judge "is that a valid kitbash or is that more than 50% GW parts"

Khorne Tzeentch and Nurgle are pretty easy to write for.

But WTF are they gonna do for Slaanesh's extra HQ, cult chaff and Elite choice?
I feel like no matter who writes it, someone's gonna be buttblasted.

>>53396562
I thought he was playing the eldar chick
>you see tiny Orks on the opposite side of the table from tiny Eldar.

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>>53396545
Siege Tyrants. Iron Havocs. ACTUAL ARTILLERY.

>>53396544
what are they?

>>53396556
Then why are you playing Guard?

Transport and Hellhound spam seem like your best bet, in any case. More mobility at least.
Can't say for sure if Taurox will be faster than a Chimera, but if it is, hoo boy.