What did Gilliman mean by this

>>53387221
Are those... Skybrarians?
(yeeaaaaahhhh)

Are those pistols? Weird-ass looking pistols.

I'll admit, I'm kinda ticked off. Seraphim as twin pistol jump troops was one of the few things we had that marines didn't. Now there are better marines with (Almost certainly) better bolt pistols.

thy look kinda cool, but they also look really heavy, which usually osnt a good thing for jump pack units

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>>53387221

he saw that almost every other race in the galaxy used their jump troops to carry powerful and specialised ranged weapons (crisis suits, hawks, spiders, flygrants, gargoyles, shrikes, scourges) and decided that maybe there was a reason for that

>>53387257

they're stormbolters, not bolt pistols.

and destroyers have been around for a while in 30k, thats a much greater infringement than these shitters

besides you know what they say about imitation and flattery

Those are less jump packs, than they are jump BACKS. Or maybe Jump Hats.

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why havent you sold/thrown away your manlet marines yet

>>53387299
Those are single barreled.
So no doubt they'll be Boltstormers, or Boltcarbines or something. Magnumbolters. Something else creatively bankrupt.

Alternatively, since those are little shields, it'll be Combi-Shields.

>>53387310
You get a gauntlet of ultramar! And YOU get a gauntlet of ultramar!

Gauntlets of Ultrimar, for everyone!

The posing makes them look kind of goofy, like they're just sort of floating around instead of hurtling through the air.

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Why do the facemasks remind me of gundam faces

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>>53387221
He said this edition should be Rogue Trader 2.0
and then slapped Yvraine's ass.

>>53387299

>and destroyers have been around for a while in 30k, thats a much greater infringement than these shitters

Yeah but SOB can't be used in 30k and Destroyers can't be used in 40k so they were at least not in the same game before.

>besides you know what they say about imitation and flattery

At this point it's less 'Imitation' and more 'The SOB have nothing left to take'.

I am really not seeing how 8e will give SOB a unique playstyle that isn't just 'Marines but cheaper'.

I dunno, at this point I'm just really burned out about losing the few remaining things we had to marines.

>>53387257
>mad at these dudes
>when legion destroyer squads have been a thing for years

Also, I'm assuming they're gonna be some extended range, rapid fire pistols, rather than the ones you see on the sergeants.

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>$70 for a box of 5, pre order now

>>53387221
G U N D A M
U
N
D
A
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>>53387257
>>53387299
They're "assault bolters", whatever those are.

>>53387321
Jesus you are right, I bet that the new lore will say that the new jump pack will allow to float at mid air and the foot support is for that

>>53387221
The more I look at them, the less I hate them.

They'll look good in a Raven Guard list I guess, but I want some Melee oriented Primaris Jump Marines

>>53387344
you cant pre order them yet

Pre order soon

>>53387221
These... actually look pretty good.

I bet those three cost £60 though.

>>53387348

Likely Pistol 2 or something.

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>>53387221
Can't really see what those tiny-ass shields are meant to protect against - hell, even the Combat Shield (which everyone forgets exists anyway) covers more

Those jump packs do look suitably huge though

>>53387221
I don't play the game but those are kinda neat. I don't care too much for the head shrouds, but otherwise they're cool. I like the shields on the guns, and the little covers on their soles that shows they're wearing layers of power armor.
>>53387310
This one's kinda weird, the shroud still seems pretty huge, and that's kind of an unflattering angle for the crotch area because it makes the abdominal armor look really long. Otherwise I like the extra armory bits on the legs. The right arm looks really small in comparison to everything else.

>>53387257
At least we know that Seraphim will be good (probably) if Bigmars are packing double pistols.

>>53387282
Yeah, but without a fucking huge chainsword they look like shit. Also heresy, probably.

>>53387319
Well, seeing that every SM detachment can have the Emperor's sword, how is the gauntlet too hard to get?

I'm calling it now, Primaris will come at $50 for a box of five.

Why do they have skis.
This is almost as bad as that floatey new dwarf from AoS.

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>>53387333

>Legion of damned get entry
>SoB dont

40keks

>>53387299

You know, it's kinda funny. St Celestine and the SOB were actually involved in Caul's adventure longer than the ultramarines were but the Marines are the ones getting the new Caul bolt weapons.

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>>53387324
The black face vents mostly. They actually look a bit more like Gundams in the face department than most Tau do overall. But it does come from the older power armor designs at least, so there's some precedent for it.

>>53387358
I'm in the same boat. I'm down to dislike from loathing, but I'm not fond of their style. They look like they're floating, not leaping through the air.

Man, what if they're Jet rather than Jump troops?

>>53387344
y-you're being sarcastic r-right.... $70 for 5 tacticals...

>>53387353
They probably are, there's clearly something attached to the foot/ankle, it's easy to spot on the right one. Probably leg boosters they use to make smaller movements while hovering like something out of Iron Man

>>53387395
Imperial Agents, anon.

Though I can't fathom who gives a shit about Legion of the Damned. Are they meant to be the loyalist equivalent to Rubric Marines and their fancy boltguns?

>>53387406
Prices havent been announced yet.

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>>53387221
Top kek

>>53387238
>>53387221

Looks like an OP Kite Class.

I'm so fucking glad Warhammer Fantasy died before it became this. Warhammer 40k is getting the same fucking treatment as End Times/Age of Smegmar, becoming more and more fucking stupid by the day, but without any demarcation point, just a slow slide into becoming something utterly alien and foreign.

>>53387408
*easy to see on the left one.

He's clearly got some kind of booster on his feet.

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>>53387406

>tacticals

excuse me sir, these are Primaris Intercessor Squads made from superior British plastic

>>53387221
Counts as Prosecutors with celestial hammers.

>>53387412
They've been around for a really long time. Since 2nd. Ed. They're basically a special character unit.

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>>53387412
>Imperial Agents

my point still stands

>>53387310
If you can get a power fist with a bolt weapon then I guess with a storm shield, one could appropriately represent Captain Cortez, which i like.

>>53387310
Lord-Celestant

>>53387437
I know, I was into the hobby when they showed up. I just can't see why they're coming into focus again. Unless they want to double down hard on the Daemons of the Emperor thing that Celestine's latest outing brought up.

>>53387344
Vanguard-Raptors With Hurricane Crossbows

>dat possing
>dat detailless design
>dat jumphats
Well, I guess true scale are new Finecast for GW

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>give them plasma
>call them "hellblaster"

>>53387461
Holy fuck I'll take 10.

>>53387461
Vanguard-Raptors With Longstrike Crossbows

>>53387461
It's that one step too far. Hellguns I can deal with, but Hellblasters is right up there with the finest Nounverb bullshit.

>>53387395
Its marines: every flavour. And. The rest of the imperium.
>imperial agents
Which includes those useless tarts.

I just feel sorry for ordo hereticus. Other ordos get marines - and now supermarines. But the antic heresy brigade, surprise surprise, bring little girls to a cock fight.
>no no, primaries aren't heresy I swear.
>and if they are, what are you and your girls aloud brigade going to do about it?
girl power

>>53387310

Armor mark variety
Less retarded looking jump troops
Easier to hide them behind things
They actually fit in my army case

Same reason they're on 25mm

>>53387461
Is that me, or this box have only 2 posses?

Those Deathguard look pretty sweet.

>>53387310
Anon we are supposed to burn them and post angry videos

>>53387454
LotD were involved in the events of Gathering Storm, their most recent fluff. So they clearly foresee some level of relevance.

>>53387481

The SOB are not the Order Militant for the Hereticus. They haven't been for editions.

Hope you dont forget your pack of Citadel Warhammer 40K Tactical Objective Cards <tm>

>>53387319
Eh welding bolters/bolt pistols to your wrists/gauntlets isnt anything new. Grey Knights do it. The chapter master of the Crimson FIsts does it.

>>53387485
Probably. These are snapfit minis from the new starter box.

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>>53387503

>>53387461
They blast the hel out of you.

>>53387503
I didn't for any previous edition since the game type that uses them sucks and I don't play it.

>>53387519
It's actually Hell, with two Ls.

>>53387477
You don't like your Ultramax Intercessor Isolator squadrons? Perhaps you need to try a Adeptus Astartes Stormhand Thunderbastion formation.

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>>53387508
Extremely not new

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Dont forget a pack of Citadel Warhammer 40k Command Dice <tm>

>>53387532
What is that thing? Some sort of Primaris Initiate who's not yet fully grown?

>>53387502
Just like the Deathwatch and Grey Knights are their own entities, sure.

The Sororitas are still the go-to source of special forces for the Hereticus. Albeit a blunter and more flashy tool than their counterparts.

>>53387532
Yeah but those are the gauntlets of ultramar. My point was Guilliman didnt invent the wheel when he decided to attach a bolter to his glove

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Measure your movement in style with an official Citadel Warhammer 40K Combat Guage <tm>

>>53387548
Whoa anon thats just rude! We call them civilians around here.

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>>53387527

>>53387516
So this is the power of GW quality

>>53387556
That's pretty neat.

>>53387556
That must be the mighty Metriculus Distanceor(tm) artifact, unearthed by Belesarius Cawl himself. Lord Guilliman trusts the portents of the Metriculus Distanceor(tm) over any auspex to gauge Citadel Battle Ranges(tm).

>>53387533
>>53387556

Goddamnit I'm probably going to buy these because I'm a stupid faggot

The worst part is I already have a perfectly usable Gale Force 9 movement template and the old clear green markers for things like running and flat out.

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>>53387553
Oh right. Here you go then.

>>53387556
>no leather thong to wear it to parties and weddings

Garbage, will stick to AoS one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRB12Ol4l94

>>53387456
>>53387448
>>53387434
>Paint them gold
>Use them in both 40k and AoS
>Make everyone super angry

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>>53387575

Let me bring your attention to our new line of Citadel Warhammer 40K Objective Markers <tm>

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Too bad the starter boxed set is all snap fit. RIP nurgle marines.

>>53387221
Why are they laughing?

>>53387556
Check out that superior British engineering and workmanship.

>looks like a five year old made it.

And you know it'll have that premium quality goods gw price tag.

>>53387592
Space wolf primaris marines on giant thunderwolves to use as Dracoths when?

>>53387424
b-but 10 s-pace marines u-used to cost $21...

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>>53387630
muh prices

>>53387310
>that fat belly

>>53387344
Gotta admit, these models look pretty damn good. I wonder if they'll update all other factions with similarly scaled models.

I want my truescale guardsmen please

>>53387606
At least four different plague marines seen in the death guard preview video aren't present in the starter box. The pics are over in 40kg. At a minimum they're getting a normal box of plague marines to go with Mortarion.

>>53387299
Theyre probably some new bolt auto pistol if i had to guess, theyre not storm bolters.

>oldmarines just lost their plot-armor and will rekt by anyone now

>>53387641
Fuck no. That would defeat the entire purpose.

>>53387221
Those tiny 'shields' on the ends of the bolters are so stupid, not even stupid-cool like you'd expect from 40k

>>53387644
Of course they will release shit around the starter box, why wouldn't they? Question is, will Nurgle be the 40k chaos army of choice like Khorne is AoSes?

>>53387657
So basically, SM vs CSM will now be chads pounding on midgets?

Space Marines have to have EVERYTHING.

Next thing you know they'll even have tits, while still being male

>>53387669
>So basically, SM vs Armyname will now be chads pounding on midgets?
fix

>>53387669
Kicking sand and stuff.

>>53387502
In imperial agents, an inquisitor may take a squad from their associated ordo militant as henchmen.
So. Based on end of 7th ed. you be incorrect.
bAzinGA

>>53387676
How tall are primaris anyway?
Taller than necrons?
Taller than centurions?
How about godzilla nids, how do the models scale up?

>>53387310
Because I like my marines to actually look good.

>>53387606
I don't see the troll face terminator in the set, so there's bound to be more than what we've seen so far. MkIII plague marine kit would be ideal, so I can mix it with BoP MkIII marines.

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>These absolutely godlike plague zombie amd marine sculpts

I've waited for plastic ones for over 10 years and now that they're here, it's so fucking good

I feel like crying

>>53387402
Now they just need miniaturized-lascannons for rifles and beam swords (which actually exist in 40k as 'lost tech')

>>53387678
>That kid that walks into your LGS with an army composed of the latest space marine models and constantly comments on how short and ugly your models look compared to his

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>>53387221

Are there models for primaris with terminator armor?

Because if there aren't terminators will now literally look like igors when standing right next to these new ultramen.

>>53387598
These are legit good, though almost certainly overpriced.

>>53387706
Make sure you give them head crests and tall octagon shields fur the full flavor!

>>53387461
>>53387424
>>53387344
>>53387324
>>53387310
>>53387221
You know.

I was joking when I said they were going to find a way to add a Stormcast-equivalents to 40,000 despite it already having space marines.

And of course they meshed/renamed the SpElves too just like the Fantasy ones.

>>53387669
Marines were always out of proportion to guardsmen. If anything Catachans and Cadians would be the same height as now, but skinnier.

>>53387461
These plasmaguns look gorgeous. Do Primaris plasmaguns still suffer from overheating?
Do primaris get affected by it?

>>53387720
Not yet

>>53387575
You're a goddamned beaten spouse, literally trapped in an abusive relationship you could walk away from at any time.

Stop taking their abuse.

>>53387738
That would be perfectly acceptable, I just want to enjoy the same quality that these guys have.

I mean, imagine how operator they could make guardsmen if they put in the same amount of quality to the models. Imagine how the next line of M36 lasguns could look like.

>>53387739
>Do Primaris plasmaguns still suffer from overheating?

Fuck them, do regular plasma guns suffer from it in 8th?

>>53387734
Craftworld, Harlies, and DE are still distinct existing factions. Ynnari are just an additional faction.

>>53387424
Adding "ultra" to that top left model's bolter makes it look retarded.

Anyone mind posting the other new models for the other factions?

>>53387783
But I don't know what of the many chapters this noble Primaris hails from.

>>53387773
>Craftworld, Harlies,
Aeldari
>DE
Druckari

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>>53387395
>have to buy a book full of elves to get my rules
Great, fucking great.

>>53387800
Why have GW been changing all these names, trademark purposes?

>>53387812
Nonsense. They are named after history, such as the infamous german Tempestus Scions of WW2, or the feared elite Astra Militarum of Napoleon. Even the Soviet Army had the help of the Prefectus to keep deserters in check!

>>53387812
Seems like it, I'm sure if they actually believe people use these names unironically though.

It just seems to make third party material show up more when you dont use the copyright term.

>>53387221
buy MOAR minis, ur old ones are useless and will be gradually phased out over coming editions

>>53387800
Nah. >>53387395

My problem with these jump marines: they don't look like they can do anything more than just stay in the air, those boots seem like it's impossible to walk. They seem like small flying plataforms not soldiers with jetpacks

>>53387310
>le manlet marines
because i don't fall for GW's viral marketing

>>53387812

I'm guessing. Though it's pretty retarded to do that. No idea why they feel the need to own every single thing. You don't see WoTC crying and changing the name of DnD races just because you can't copyright ogres, dragons, elves, and pretty much 99% of the races.

>>53387221
I unironically love these, look at their little ski-boots.

>>53387332
>tfw no jumppack twice the size of your body.

>>53387812
Yes mainly. They only succeeded on a third of their claims when they sued Chapterhouse Studios, because so many of the names were preexisting and/or generic. That said the old terms are still around in universe, it's mostly a matter of low gothic vs. high gothic, or imperial name vs. native alien name.

>>53387854
Shazbot! I am the greatest!

>>53387638
never forget...

>>53387839
because of the weird boot thing they got on. anyway, my problem with all of them is that they look inferior to mk 6

>>53387844
Because Of Chapterhouse Studios. They got REALLY cavalier with GW's IP and didn't even bother with nominal generisizing.

Personally, the only thing I see chadmarines being good for is as Sergeants and HQ.

>>53387914
I'm going to be using them as characters in Inquisimunda units, towering above regular pleb henchmen.
So yeah, basically the same thing.

>>53387893
Yeah, and being inferior to MK 6 means you're waaaaaaaaaaaay infieror to MK 4

>>53387907
So? Does DnD throw out lawsuits because other settings use elves? Or change the names to try to copyright it? It's just dumb and petty.

And don't even give me the line about caring about the IP. Have you seen some of the shovelware made with the IP? GW just wants to be even more greedy. Let's not pretend it's anything else.

>>53387606
>Maxime Pastourel
I met him on some french wargaming forum years ago. He was making truscale marines alone in his basement to use them in killteam games or something. I'm glad he gets paid for doing what he loves.

>>53388002
>for doing what he loves.
Bad models?

>>53388034
>Every New model is now a bad model

>>53387995
Except they did rebrand elves and shit. They're eladrin now.

>>53387641
Guardsmen are truescale.....

>>53388055
>bare fat armor plates without details in 2 posses only is good models!

>>53388099
>Being this jelly
Lol

>>53387995
Listen friend, I wasn't making a moral judgement. You asked why? I gave you the entirely rational business decision behind GW's actions.

Chapterhouse didn't give trademark law even passing lip-service, making and marketing models for named GW special characters as those characters for example, and GW stilll only got less than half the claims to stick. That clearly scared their legal department. And GW is a publically traded company. I imagine they had to do something to keep investors happy.

>>53388099
>GW leave open Areas
>BAH NOT DETAILED ENOUGH

>GW add tons of detail
>BAH TOO DETAILED

I like the flat open look of the armor, it shows they're less baroque and more modern, as for the poses, it looks like Bigmarines are multipose, but like the old Squating marines, limited in posing due to arm and leg posing.

>>53388114
Imagine if Disney lost the rights to their Snow White design because Snow White is a publically traded item.

That basically sums up why GW are going the way they are going.

>>53388119
>>BAH NOT DETAILED ENOUGH
Yes, especially when they demanding premium prices
>>GW add tons of detail
>>BAH TOO DETAILED
Yes, because unlike FW GW cannot detailing well.
>and more modern,
Nope

>>53387221
When I first saw that thumbnail I thought those were Terran Reapers from Star Craft 2. What the flying fuck GW?

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>>53388055
The new Nurgle models are shit m8. Look at this thing.

These new GW names have a terminal case of adjective nounverber syndrome. They're so ridiculous it's it hurts

>>53387221
Stealing from sisters too now eh?

>>53388099
>>53388119
All I know is he sculpted the new Deathguard. I don't know if he is the one that sculpted the Primaris. Personally I think the Primaris look cooler than the Deathguards by the way, some of them look great but overall there's way too much detail for my taste.
I was just saying I'm happy for him.

>>53388138
>We demand more gaudy shit on the models because they're more expensive, but GW cannot do the detailing well so we will complain anyway

>>53388155
>Bloated Nurgle sorceror spewing a glob of flies and mucus

I love it.

>>53387310
THICCrine

"I will never EVER fall for those new machinations of GW to make me throw money at th-
>>53387221
>Box mags and awesome jump packs
All of my yes (though i'd remove the weird shields)
>>53387310
>Officer with Gorget af Badassery
You... you win this time GW.... I'll take just one,.
>>53387461
>Plasma guns of Fuck you Xenos
Okay, I'll limit myself to 20 of these. And i'd take to more of these stocks to glue to the boltguns.

Fuck it. I hope you will be able to make something competitive price-wise without having to sell a kidney.

>I was joking when I said they were going to find a way to add a Stormcast-equivalents to 40,000 despite it already having space marines.
You're the only one who were joking. Everyone knew it was bound to happen.

>>53387641
>I wonder if they'll update all other factions with similarly scaled models.
Doubtfull. From what I understand the Newmarines are a good head taller than the old ones canon-wise, it wouldn't make sense to emphasize their scale just to bring everyone else to it. Though i don't doubt each and every other single army will have a selection of super-infantrymen.

>>53388183
>but GW cannot do the detailing well so we will complain anyway
Yep, if GW wants our money they should provide proper quality, not McDonalds toys.

>>53387461
>literally stolen tau tech

>>53388208
Don't buy models you don't like then Anon, I like them, I will buy them.

>>53388198
>Badassery
Excuse me?
>selection of super-infantrymen.
It's a new army

>>53387310
>beer gut
>really fat head
You'd think they'd make the hero actually look good.

>>53388218
Okay, now go back to your home, redditor

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>>53388155
>Showing only the worst one
anon pls
They're really not that great but come on man.

>>53387311
They're assault bolters

>>53388229
>Reddit
>Because I am not have an autistic shitfit on the back of the Anti-GW wagon.

Sorry bro, I've been here since before /tg/ was a thing, maybe you should go back to your 7th edition hugbox on /v/.

>>53388244
Actually as a Nurgle player I think those are fucking amazing.

The "Rusted and shitty" looking Plague Marines were getting rather dull.

>>53388244
plasma gunner's definitely the winner of the set

I foresee a lot of shadow war bands using these guys,

What the fuck happened to condensed rules? We still have a 280 page bloated mess

>>53388250
>unrinocally defending bad design and pushing "le-fun"-meme
>not Reddit

>I've been here since before /tg/ was a thing,
Yeah sure, we all believe you.
>/v/
Still buttblasted?

>>53388271
Yep

>>53388272
>Does nothing but spout /v/ tier rhetoric

Oh wait, you're Slavposter!

>>53388244
They don't look interesting, they look like someone just slapped shit on midget space marines.

They each look like a character rather than a unit and that's not where you want your army to be.

This is one of the problems with GW's new model designs. They're super bland and then hyper detailed with shit. There's no healthy balance between the two. You can have your creepy stomach bloat but then don't go and add 12 tentacles to his leg, chainmail to his groin, a custom helmet and 2 custom shoulder pads. It's just too much

>>53388284
>pour /v/ tier rhetoric
By talking about actual things (quality, prices etc)?

>>53388271
t. a retard

>>53388244
does the one in the back right have a melta gun barrel sticking out of his power pack?

>>53388306
no

just like space marine bikes don't have four meltaguns on the back

>>53388298
>Talking about things.

Oh please, you're whining about contradictory things like you do in every thread you pathetic manchild.

>>53388293
>I-It's all too much detail

let me guess, you play necrons or Guard.

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Brother!

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>>53388293
>they don't look interesting but they all look like characters
>they're super bland and hyper detailed
I feel like your just grasping for something to be mad about anon.

>>53388271
Because it's not a pamphlet, it's a proper hardback rulebook.

>>53388270
My favorite is the one in the bottom left-hand corner. His helmet, his backpack, his pose, his tacticool grenade belt, I like everything about him.

>>53388293
>They each look like a character rather than a unit and that's not where you want your army to be.
Except if you're using them for Shadow War. Which is what I'm going to do if I get my hands on them, because regular 40k is much less interesting.

>>53388318
>Oh please, you're whining about contradictory things
>if you don't like new GW models you shouldn't talk about it, you are whinner!
>contradictory
Where?
>you pathetic manchild.
>says redditor

>>53388340
He is, these guys are basically Blightkings with Bolters and he's mad about that for some reason.

The Jin-Roh looking motherfucker is one of the best Chaos marine models I have ever seen.

>>53388352
>B-but you are Reddit

That argument only works on /v/ where people think that has any sort of weight you fucking autist.

You were whining over the lack of detail on the Primiris marines, then say said the angular look doesn't make them more modern looking and that if they had the detail you wanted, you'd still complain.

Just admit it, you're some backwards retard, probably too poor to afford the new models, who thinks his opinion is worth shit on stuff he'll never play.

Go end your life Slavposter.

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>>53388119
>more modern
So what?

>>53388271
The core rules are free and short. The 280 oages books has artwork, fluff (a fuckload of it for obvious reasons) and special rules/scenarios like stronghold assault and whatnot.

>>53388366
>It's okay when Infinity do it

Alright then, thanks for confirming you are Slavposter.

>>53388318
Actually I have a nightlords army and a Goblin army. But there is a point where it's miserable to paint tiny detail no one gives a fuck about. It's like painting fingers, no one ever looks at hands unless you fuck it up but they're no fun to paint. You just do it because if you don't it will look wrong, even though no one gives a fuck.

>>53388340
None of them have any personality, they just have shit thrown on them to look unique not special. It's like the SJW retards who cover themselves in piercings and neon hair but all look the same generic bland person. You can have such a thing as unique and bland you know right?

>>53388354
I like the Blight kings, they look cool because they're not hyper detailed. It's the extra power armour shit that's too much here. Notice most the blight stuff is simple armour with decay

>>53388271
Not just rules anon, fluff too.

>>53388363
>That argument only works on /v/ where people think that has any sort of weight you fucking autist.
It works everywhere, since Reddit is the sign of bad taste
>You were whining over the lack of detail on the Primiris marines, then say said the angular look doesn't make them more modern looking
And where is contradiction?
>and that if they had the detail you wanted, you'd still complain.
Where I've said something like it?

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Plastic plague drones.

>>53387854
>>53387871
Okay, I'm 100% fonder of these guys now I can associate them with Tribes. Now all they need are rules for skiing and blue disc specials.

>>53388155
>>53388244

Overdesigned as fuck.

Seems like they are trying to stay ahead the competition by having fancier and much more expensive rapid prototyping machien then the other guys can afford?

Probably not a bad idea, anynbody can desing great miniature, but only a richfag can have miniature with billion tiny details.

>>53388382
>>It's okay when Infinity do it
You mean good looking and highly detailed power armor?

>>53388395
Oh give it up Slavposter, you said it right here you fucking invalid.

>>53388138

>>53388396
FW one looks like flying piece of shit, this one is menacing daemon engine.

>>53388404
>Look good
>Infinity

Sometimes, those models posted look like utter shit though.

>>53388406
>you said it right here
Nope, I've never talked about how I wanting to see GW "details".

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>>53388244
I'll stick with the forgeworld ones thanks.
Simple design that works

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For all your Nurgle cultist needs.

>>53388412
>says the man who think nu-GW looks good

>>53388430
They look so happy to be involved. Good for them

There's hits and misses in these new miniatures, I won't be buying it I know that much.

To me, how detailed the miniatures are shows GW has shifted. Before it's well documented they were aiming at new kids who would spend £200 then get bored of the hobby after a few months. Now I think they're shifting back to their core market. I don't want to sound rude but the kind of people who have no knowledge or love of wargaming or hobby products outside of GW, who reacted to the Warhammer World being blown up by pre-ordering "awesome" steampunk dwarfs at full RRP.

I know the Dark Vengeance set miniatures weren't exactly as simple as earlier intro boxes, like Assault on Black Reach, but this seems more like the Horus Heresy "boardgames" that were basically just army deals rather than a real intro set.

>>53387481
Way back with the old 54mm scale Inquisitor game it was alluded to the Ordo Hereticus had their own chamber militant which was yet another flavour of Marines.
There is literally no connection between the SoB and the OH mentioned at all the books.

Come actually writting the SoB dex of 3rd, GW couldn't think of how to expand on the girls, they had all these little freak show units from the Inquis game and they wanted to do a cross promotion of sorts so they retconned SoB into the OH.

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>>53388421
>Stupid as fuck barrel chests
>Champion head looks like a dollop of shit.
>Literally Muh rustmarines.

>>53388434
>un-Ironically uses the phrase Nu-

The new Plague Marines look more like Pic related, and that's all for the better.

>>53388366
What a generic and uninspiring design.

>>53388421
It's a bit of a mess for me. I dig the helmets and the fact that GW is giving us the MkII helmets we should have had from FW ages ago, is a massive bonus. I've been wanting those for ages.

The FW design on those is too much tied to the old mess that is CSM. MkV torso with a MkII helmet, and MkVI legs. But, hopefully, with a plastic multi-part plague marine kit in MkIII, I can combine them with regular MkIII and make some less fucked up Nurgle Marines.

>>53388396
>Give Krang a dark eldar helmet

Ugly as fuck

>>53388441
>2017
>People STILL angry about WHFB

Nobody who matters cares buddy.

desu I think the Death Guard minis are cool af and really get the feel of the army.
Primaris marines are bland in comparison, just muh generic more plate armor and more reinforced mk.VII. Assault primaris look like that Kharadron lord, which is a shit design and as Infinity tiers of generic.

Luckily tho we can say that regular marines will still have a reason to be fielded, I was really spooked that Primaris would overtake their roles, but they adjust to different needs.
The only overlap I see maybe is the primaris squad with special weapons and veteran squads.

>>53388430
It's like someone looked at the 2nd edition chaos stuff and went "do that!" but forgot that they added 1 or 2 tentacles not 154 per eye lid.

There's no unity to this unit. It's just a bunch of shit slapped together.

>>53388454
>The new Plague Marines look more like Pic related
Where exactly, except chest?
>>53388455
So just like new 40k starter?

>>53388482
>There's no unity

I agree, it's too chaotic.

>>53388463
I do

>>53388487
>too chaotic
hah

>>53388483
>Where exactly

Tentacle mutations,Power armour is broken.Makeshift Backpack

>>53388458
Chaos armour is supposed to be a cluster fuck though. They're taking parts from people they kill and using them as they need them. They've scavengers not producers

>>53388495
>Never buys anything of Warhammer save for a new unit every 5 years
>I matter and care

No buddy, no you don't.

>>53388506
>Tentacle mutations
>Power armour is broken.
Okay, then where exactly tentacle mutations and broken power armor on your pic?

>>53388487
This level of corruption would turn you into a spawn is my point. There are official spawn models with less mutations than these guys have

>>53388517
>>Never buys anything of Warhammer
>top-5 best selling miniautres before ET

>>53388520
... Are you fucking blind?

>>53388430
That guy has a damn clean coat. I wonder how he gets it to be this white?

>>53388534
Show me where is tentacles or broken power armor on your picture.

>>53388463

I've never actually played Fantasy myself, it's just an observation.

GW have shifted their outlook in recent years and some people have fell for it. Which is fair enough, if they make the toy soldiers you like the look of, nothing wrong with buying them.

Take Blood Bowl though; I've been playing it for years, through GW's lack of support where the fans and third parties stepped up and kept BB tournaments as popular as any other GW ones. Now GW have tried to take it back and basically just fragmented the last fan ruleset up into "DLC" season books that casual GW-only types have slurped up and praised them for.

>>53388409
>Nurgle vehicle looks like flying piece of shit
It's kinda the point

>>53388542
His FACE is turning into tentacles and his whole left side is broken and removed of armour, his power pack is a fucking BILGE PUMP.

>>53388512
Apart from the fact that you have Dark Mechanicum production facilities, there's CSM groups who've just fused with their armour. there's CSM to whom time is so convoluted that to them the Heresy just ended, etc.

Not to forget that why exactly is all their armour just a mix of MkV, VI and VII? Loyalists don't even make MkV, because why would you, and the traitor legions were particularly stacked with MkVs. If the "they scavenge" is true, then they should have marks across the board and especially the newer marks.

>>53388560
That's not the point though.

Nurgle isn't "Lol shit and decay" He's mutation as well as anyone else.

>>53388563
>His FACE is turning into tentacles and his whole left side is broken and removed of armour
It's just a cables.

>>53388571
If I had my way mate we never would have left the beakies

>>53388575
>Nurgle isn't "Lol shit and decay"
>>53388430

>>53388563

Those are tubes and cabling, not tentacles

>>53388526
>There are official spawn models with less mutations than these guys have
that's because the current spawn suck dick.

These guys are basically slightly more fucked up scavvies, which makes sense since scavvies aren't actively worshiping the powers of chaos.

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Not a fan of Nurgle but this guy looks sweet.

>>53388585
>People mutating into trees and bugs
>"just decay"

>>53388244
They're trash, though. It's the same problem that afflicts the AoS chaos releases, in particular Archaon and the Varanguard. They're overdesigned, choked with so much detail that the eye doesn't know where to settle. They just look like ugly, messy blobs. FW's plague marine upgrade kit looks far, far better.

>>53388586
>>53388576

So you people ARE Blind. Look at the thing hanging from his cheek, it's a fucking tendril

>>53388603
No it doesn't.

The FW set just makes dumpy fat marines with flat details and horrible sculpts.

Literally no nurgle fan hates these new releases save for the retarded "Undead marines" crowd.

>>53387720
The captain is in the new terminator armour

>>53388618
Its same suit inceptors use.

>>53388534
Not him, but >>53388454 pic only have:
- a cancer face with tubes and ONE SMALL tentacle
None of the >>53388244 miniatures have that combination. There isn't even a single cancer face, just tentacle face and mouth-helmets.
- a fleshy looking pauldron

And all the rest isn't especially chaotic.
I actually like the new nurgle squad but they have little to do with that picture (that I also like btw).

>>53388597
Is... that a big choppa?

>>53388430
>>53388396
>>53388244
>>53388155
>>53387221
>>53387310
I sorta like the new models but I think if you had a whole army of them then you wouldn't be able to focus on them and they would be an overly designed mess.

Outside of noise marines you need some uniformity in an army just so you can tell what they are at a glance.

>>53388597
>i'm going to headbutt you with my faceknife

>>53388603

FW in general knows how to handle 30k/40k aesthetic better than GW

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>begun the clone wars have

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>>53388603
I'm ok with chaos getting that. Though I admit I quite like the bottom left one.

>>53388652
is that thighplate writing a transfer sheet?

>>53387424
>>53387344
why are they all lookign down?

>>53388652
So we'll be able to give them alternative heads even if they're snapfit? Sweet.

>>53388652
>setting your fistgun on a gangster angle
man, I'd say I'm a fan of the basic sigmarines... but this model's just a ball of bad design choices

>>53388677
because their enemies are short.

>>53388672
>(You)
That spacesuit is really growing on me

>>53388666
>thin leg syndrome across the board
>MkII and III all wrong
>MkV bulldog helmet
>OC donut steel over classic 30k designs

I dunno, man, I got major issues with plenty of FW designs. Some things they nail perfectly, but other times they just pull shit out of their ass and if you try and do something that's not true to FW design, you just get screamed at by retards.

>>53388672
i thought those were skis on his feet but they have traction shit on them? so they have boots on their boots?

>>53388652
> The Headless marine of Duty Hollow

>>53387221
WOW. those look fucking awful.

The model is way over designed and they look like dick heads, and let only 3? I hope thats not implying they are 3 to a box, because that did not work out for sigmar at all.

>>53388672
>replace pistols with Tau weapons
>replace helmet with optics
>replace shoulder pads

Gue'vesa battle suit.

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i hope people are regretting having whine so much GW actually changed squatmarines

>>53388403
Fuck off slav

>>53388733
It does feel like Primaris just copy Tau stuff. I mean even their basic weapon is pretty much a Bolter turned up to a Pulse Rifle. I swear if they start getting 'Laserlights' or somethin.

>>53388718
They're shock absobers for hard landings presumably

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Am I blind or was this guy not revealed today in the starter box?

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>>53388757

That's still a squat stance, they're just bigger.

>>53388785
Guilliman isn't a retard. After hearing about the 2 humiliating defeats against a minor xenos empire he took a look into them and copied their good stuff. Just like a good roman should.

>>53388675

Nope you will just have to not suck at freehanding

>>53388298
By centering an entire post (>>53388272) around ad hominem because they're defending something you don't like therefore they must be a buttblasted liar from reddit

>>53387783
They do that to make it harder for the Magpies to "receive" them as gifts?

>>53388785
their basic weapon is just a bolter using kraken bolts

and space marine targeters pre-date tau as a faction

>>53388802
He wasn't.

>>53388803
it's a shitty pose, squatting was silly if you thought about it, but at least it looked good.
>>53388802
they wouldn't put a primarch in the starter box right?(or did i get it wrong and that is a PD rather then morty?(they wouldn't put a PD either))

>>53388630
No it's called Gravis armour and has those overlapping bellyplates etc

>>53387332
>>53387416
top kek indeed. nearly 30 years later, and blizzard is still stealing from games workshop.

>>53388804
Eh? How are small forces being defeated humiliating? The Imperium only lost to the Tau cause they have far more enemies to fight and can't waste their actual numbers on something as unthreatening as the Tau.

Not to mention if Guilliman wants an upgrade why not just ask the Eldar since he's now best chums with them to explain how their grav and shit works.

>>53387221

>we want the 'retards that thought the centurions looked good' audience

>>53388807
God dammit. This is why Angelos is so huge in DOWIII. They stole the Primaris technology even before Guilliman woke up.

>>53388879
>How are small forces being defeated humiliating?
The imperium was attacking in the crusades, doesn't matter how much you held back, if you assault a kid and you lose it's humiliating.

>>53388890
They look stupid, but not as stupid as Centurions.

3D printing really was a bad move for GW

So many shit sculpts

>>53387563
no anon. Your agony, everyone's collective agony sustains GW. The stock ticker for them is in human anguish and torment, and business has never been better.

>>53388910
THey are just so bad looking i mean, pistol shields? Fucking WHY!? Big ass helmet to cover your other helmet, why?:!

>>53388879
>Not to mention if Guilliman wants an upgrade why not just ask the Eldar
Arguably they could not know how their tech is made, there is few of Ynnari left and most of them are warriors not artisans and bonesingers.

>>53388904
That's retarded. By that logic the Imperium should win everything always. Just cause you're a superpower doesn't mean you don't lose small fights sometimes due to other circumstances constraining you.

>>53388675
Transfer. don't worry anon, they've made it easymode.

>>53388597
>I cover my power armour in chain mail
> My arm is 3 chainsaws inside an axe
>My banner pole is smoking
>My bellys hanging out belog my nipple tubes which don't go any where
>One of my gauntlets is huge and the other tiny
<Better stand on this nurgling

Yea, can't see the other design in this one lands. The only place not covered with detail is the feet, every where else is just an excuse to slap things.

>>53387556
Tape measure for life yo!

>>53388932
Considering Eldrad's still with them I'm sure they can learn how Grav works at the very least, just from being shown and examing it.

I mean, c'mon, as if the Magi of Mars couldn't reverse engineer better grave from a working Eldar jetbike.

>>53388939
a chaos lord in terminator armour is literally the one kind of model where that sort of detail overload is completely acceptable and expected

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>>53387310
Their (Terminator) captains look objectively better.

>>53388950
I honestly expect it with tzeentch

>>53387418
Serves it right.

>>53388939
Agreed. I also hate the sheer amount of pox marks on him. I'll try and get this model and a few others for conversions. Is liquid greenstuff good for getting rid of pox marks?

>>53387310
Dat beer gut.

>>53388950
You expect a chaos lord to cover himself in chainmail?

I don't know about you but I tend to object to someone putting 3 buzz saws inside an axe head. It's completely and utterly non-functional. This isn't "chainsaw" dumb, this is making a chainsaw out of mar bars dumb.

>>53388991
>dat nurgle's rot

FTFY

>>53388991
The ultimate dad bod.

>>53388983
liquid greenstuff is shit, use a proper putty

>>53387761
That would imply he isn't a complete and utter failure of a man.

>>53388935
i am not making the judgment myself, that's how people react to it irl too.

>>53388034
It's a living.

>>53388793
While for some reason, Assault Marines didn't need them and landed just like that.

>>53388155
Jesus that's painfully bad.

>>53388618
I think its just the new artificer armor mostly because the interceptors have it and because it is using the standard primaris power pack.

>>53387371

Honestly the first thing that came to mind when I saw them was recoil or stabilizing and less being a shield.

>>53387394

It's not a new thing, I can definitely recall seeing similar things on mecha.

>>53387418

Let's see if you still feel the same when Creative Assembly shits out the last Total Warhammer game and then moves on.

>>53388994
>You expect a chaos lord to cover himself in chainmail?
sure?

A: It's a visual theme of chaos, and distinguishes them from their loyalist compatriots
B: Chainmail being used as a stopgap/ad-hoc replacement for plate mail is fairly normal. Chaos don't got the resources or facilities to keep their tactical dreadnoughts in tip-top shape, and so have to improvise.

>his weapon is unrealistic
okay

>>53387310
So is this supposed to be the new Terminator pattern? It looks hideous

>>53388412
Infinity makes winners about 90% of the time. GW makes shit about 90% of the time. And for the record I like the numarines.>>53388419

>>53388802
GW has said that this is going to be a big release my guess is they are going to release the rest of the non snap-fit deathgaurd at the same time

>>53389060
But you can clearly see his armour is fine under the chainmail. What makes Chaos unique is the horned helmets, extended power plants and the armour edging.

>His weapon is unrealistic
Not what I said. I said it's fucking stupid and over detailed. I'm fine with stupid weapons, this is beyond stupid

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>>53388991

Gamesworkshop finally making space marines reflect their average players body type LUL

>>53388945
Eldrad is senile old man, Admech already did steal lot of eldar tech and only keep it for themselves.
>>53388991
>when mjod kicks in

>>53389106
Yeah but they got Cawl and Guilliman now to kick them into shape. One Jetbike should be all they need to create a superior Grav for the Primary Marines.

>>53389087
>you can clearly see his armour is fine under the chainmail
no you can't, because his upper arms are clearly fucking covered by chainmail

>>53388793
They can come from orbit, so I assume tha means they deepstrike. Hence the bulky armor, shock absorbers, and extra jets.

>>53388927
>Big ass helmet to cover your other helmet, why?:!

I dislike that this tramples on the design space of the Librarian, because it looks very similar to a psychic hood.

>>53387606
>Snap fit
? You mean mono pose or literally no need of glue?

>>53388244
The problem with this level of over-designing is that it leaves no room for the customer to design any themselves.

>>53388652
that blue with sparkles overwhelmingly reminds me of toothpaste I used as a child.

Also thin the paints.

>>53387801

LITERALLY horus heresy

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>>53387221
>>53387257
>>53387299
>>53387311
>>53387348
"Mini heavy bolters"

>>53387310
*obligatory boner joke*

>>53389250
>Get your case, alien, scum. All your models are dead.
ENTIRE XENO CATALOG SQUATTED
XENO PLAYERS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>53389322
So it's really going the AoS way? Sigmarines vs Khorne as far as eye can see.

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>>53389354

Khorne marines are not nearly as popular to carry the entirety of 40k on their backs. And we've already had major releases for Nurgle/Tzeentch forces and the Black Legion has a huge focus in the lore.

Are all factions getting new models?

>>53389354
>So it's really going the AoS way?
WARHAMMER 40K 8th EDITION IS AN AGE OF SIGMAR EX¨PANSION CONFIRMED

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>>53389395

>>53389395

I foolishly let myself think for a moment when they said this release of the new edition would be the biggest release ever to mean everyone would get something but then realized it just means a bunch of new primaris marines everywhere.

>>53389322
Wow. I mean I knew Xenos were already pretty much completely unimportant, but wow.

>>53388677
they are facing your obsolete marinelets anon

>>53388396
that looks like a talos pain engine flipped onto its face and given propellers.

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>>53389250

>d-don't worry GW-senpai i shall purchase many of these g-glorious nu-marines!!
>*opens wallet and bends over*

More like Troy ButtKiss, fucking hell.

Facebook, not even once.

>>53388927
>What are destroyers
>What are Tartaros terminators

>>53389807
>want new models that give different options for an expensive hobby game that's about expanding your collection with a wide variety of models
>being excited for it is bad