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Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1513: Kill and Keep Killing Edition

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>Google Drive
http://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B1qb0_OLhDrDSmZpRWdZaGZRcWs?tid=0B20r6rsFLOg_Zk5RdVdya3hJNnc&authuser=0

>Jumpchain IRC Chat
http://client00.chat.mibbit.com/?server=rizon.mibbit.org&channel=%23JumpchainCYOA
http://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.rizon.net/?#JumpchainCYOA

>Rules
http://pastebin.com/jPdZPCu4

>How to Jumpchain
http://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1qb0_OLhDrDNjZmRG02SDFaRVk/view

>Last Thread
>>53370266
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>>53379256
No no no Anon!
It's kill, reanimate dead, keep killing.
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>>53379256
Well, if you insist...
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Recap episode time! Because I'm cleaning up my pastebin a bit and putting these into collections, so some older links will be broken in a bit.

https://pastebin.com/RRRjD8q2
https://pastebin.com/MRbEjkDM
https://pastebin.com/wT0cvFGQ
https://pastebin.com/eJcKYgJL

I'm going to be taking a short break to go over things like combos and feats in a bit, and then transferring this first 'season' to GDocs or something less prone to catching fire randomly.

I hope anyone still following this chain is enjoying it! Am I an iconic jumper yet I want headpats
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>>53379256
>Kill and Keep Killing Edition
If you say so. . .
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>>53379324
I got something stronger than headpats
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>>53379330
Dead Snow is a great movie.
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>>53379278
really your going there?
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>>53379341
Oregano?
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Jump # 113 Generic Xianxia
Starting location: Bustling City (free)
Age:?
Gender: Female
Background: Young Master
Perks:
*Other cheak (0)
*Martial Arts (0)
*Cultivator (0)
*A Good Catch (50)
*A First-Rate is better than three Third-Rates (100)
*No Jumper you are the Waifu (100)
*Good Breeding (100, Discount)
*Teach Me Master (300, Discount)
*Newgenics (300, Discount)
*The Basics (100)
Companions
*Your Spouse X 4 (300)
Equipment
*Bottle of Nutrients (0)
*Spiritual Transfer stone (50)
Drawbacks
*Bandits (+200)
*Demon Attack (+200)

Companions:
*Akitsu, Arcueid, Yubel, & Tamamo : Young lord (Xiania protagonist)

(I don’t know much about Xainxia but I tried)

As the young head of a household I was charged with going out in to the world and earning my own fortune proving I was truly worthy to be a leader of my clan. I was accompanied by my 4 wives (some agreements were made before my birth)

That was how I began my journey. It’s funny I thought I was pretty powerful until then. The road is a great teacher though and soon my eyes were forced open as I stumbled in to a world much bigger than I was.

We were beset by bandits early and my wives and I were handling them quite easily… then there was a puff of smoke and a being of utter blackness stepped out. It walked through our best attacks like they were nothing, like we were fighting smoke. It moved with a horrible speed that we could barely fallow.
We soon realized we were only alive because it was toying with us…

Before it could finish it’s game though an old man jumped in front of us. She was half drunk and stumbling the thing dove at him and with a single motion of his hand light flashed and it was consumed. He turned from us cursing the demons. When I went to thank him, at first he was irritated by the interruption but then he paused and seemed concerned telling me I had been marked by demons and that I would be beset by them for the rest of my days.

(to be continued)
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>>53379373
That was how I met my first mentor a wandering drunk. He was an old pervert who I paid in booze and training half dressed as we traveled. It wasn’t unlike my time learning to be a ninja.

It wouldn’t be long before we learned our mentor was just a small fry in an even greater pond. We learned from him what we could until the demons proved to be too much for him and he lead us to his master’s Master.

She was beautiful and young, maybe as young as me and frighteningly powerful. We were given 3 challenges before she would agree to train us, 3 sacred treasures we would have to claim. They were all guarded either by powerful warriors or demons.

Through a mixture of wits, planning, out of context magic and turning demons against each other we claimed each one and returned to her. She turned out to be thousands of years old for her first example of her power and what could be done she disintegrated an entire mountain with a move, then restored it with another.
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The update that maybe three people were waiting for!

1.4.2 Changes
-Reduced prices for artifacts
-A few new perks, an item, and a drawback.
-Finished descriptions for add ons.
-Bonus missions still not done.
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>>53379145
You either wait for the Archanea jump, or you go across the pond to wake up Nagi and companion her. She won't be purchasable until the Archanea jump but they're in the same world/ten year timeframe (Valentia has too much content to share a jump with Archanea, I feel)
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>>53379465
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Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>53379256
Don't mind me, just rolling something.
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>>53379477
Wait, which game are you working on right now?
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>>53379465
Woo!
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>>53379465
Neat.
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>>53379538
I'm minding super hard right now.
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>>53379549
Fire Emblem: Shadows of Valentia, aka FE Echoes. I use "Valentia" because that's the name of the continent.
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>>53379330
Wait whats going on here?
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>>53379373
Dont you get a free custom xianxia cultivation technique?
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So is there any perks that allows you to cure crazy? Because Himiko Toga is crazy but adorable. I don't wanna be stabbed but also at same time entertaining idea of taking her with me.
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>>53379656
>So is there any perks that allows you to cure crazy?
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>>53379656
Light of Eden from Evo is a good one. I also like Disney Magic from Zootopia for that. You probably already have a week of non-sex adventures planned anyway, bring some company and improve their life.
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>>53379656
d&d psionics, nifty little power called Psychic Chirurgery. Cures all sorts of crazy. Has a lot of other nifty uses too.
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>>53379614
Whoopes, sorry. Thought it was for marthland.

When you get to marthland, can I get a Nagi companion option?
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>>53379656
Personally I think a little bit of crazy is kind of fun in a Companion, but you might try looking at Psychonaughts for that. The whole scheme there is messing around in people's heads. Remember Me is another place to invest some time in if you don't mind literally manipulating memories to get the personality changes you want.

Of course, if you're trying to be a decent person about it, you might try-

>>53379720
>Someone suggested something from one of my Jumps without me having to do it.
>MFW
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>>53379652
You talking about the technique scroll? Because that's only free if you buy Xianxia Protagonist.

If you're talking cultivation in general, you might be thinking about World of Cultivation. That one has a builder for you to make your own cultivation method.
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>>53379697
>implying
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>>53379256

Ok, I've given the PPC jump a once-over, tried to clean up and clarify some perks, and injected a bit of meta into it in the hopes of getting everything to work better from an in-universe perspective.

https://pastebin.com/LAZA4s1Q

If there are no major issues, I'll be uploading it to the drive later.
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>>53379623
Standard nazi zombie awakening procedure.
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>>53379656
One of the "Quest Reward" perks in Alterworld reads like a lesser Path to Victory for treating mental illness. Also, Path to Victory, Read the Guide from Monish Cap, and Destiny from Dinotopia.
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>>53379623
>he can't spot nazi zombies
Man, are you in for a rough summer.
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>>53379762
>Stanless steel
>Touchest battles.
>Even more crap
What the... is this some kid's drawing?
Why post this?
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>>53379807
To be fair according to the news everyone except the poor isis terrorists are nazis.
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>>53379823

Just trying to give you an idea of what you'll be up against.
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>>53379465

I wasn't waiting for it, but I'm pleased to see it.
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>>53379823
Don't diss, fool. Any warrior worth his salt knows Stan is the biggest weakness in any metal weapon.
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Rolled 231 (1d816)

>>53379538
Speaking of rolling something, let's see what Jump we're discussing this thread...
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>>53379745
see
>>53379477
Nagi a pretty, I want to wife her too.

>>53379823
It's meant to be a parody.

>>53379762
You may want to post that as a PDF, instead, as is standard to do and get more people to notice it.
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>>53379656
Steal her heart with a persona 5 persona?
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>>53379762
Inconsistent use of 'sue' in their 200.

Other than that? Pretty good.
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>>53379939
It's Farcry.
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>>53379656
Dandachi (400cp, Discount Drop-In): An intelligent weapon forged from what appears to be some sort of beautifully crafted magical iron, Dandachi has quite a unique and powerful function. The weapon is capable of healing every sort of physical, spiritual, and mental malady imaginable.
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>>53379762
>mandatory options in drawbacks section
>gives CP

?
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What arcana would tlexcalipoca be in the persona jumps?
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>>53379652
Sadly I don't I was trying to avoid getting too overpowered so I didn't take Xianxia protagonist (or stay for a million years) but I probably learned quite a bit in my stay there. I have a high learning rate especially when taught by a teacher (I have the noblesse perk a young man's mind and an absurd learning rate)
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>>53380032

It was in Naruto as well anon, well mostly because jumpers were going to need all the help they could get
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>>53380046
>tlexcalipoca
Google is wondering if you mean Tezcatlipoca.
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>>53379940
>Stanless
Hey I'm a perfectly legit businessman trying to sell you a genuine sword repair kit!
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>>53380096
Yes, aztec gods names are hard to write from memory.
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>>53380069
No I'm genuinely confused here, are you being forced to take the drawbacks or not

I'm positive there are no drawbacks you're forced to take in nardo
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I was reading the mistborn jump, and I says that special metals from other settings might have their own powers.

So /tg/ what do you think would be the abilities of some non mistborn metals?

The only one i have thought about so far is eridium from borderlands.
Allomancy: control personal gravity
Feruchemy: store how much people notice you.
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>>53380135

If you take uchia background you have to take the edgy drawback or whatever it was called
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>>53380135
Sharingan, Rinnegan, Jinchuuriki, and probably some other stuff all have mandatory drawbacks too.

I do think PPC guy should specify whether or not you get CP from whichever mandatory drawback you choose.
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>>53380209
The setting is dangerous enough, pass go and take your points.
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>>53380183
>>53380209
Looking over the jump, I think I see what he's talking about. The mandatory drawbacks aren't attached to anything, you're just required to take one of them. For any of those, you can just not take them, but here you have to take at least one of those drawbacks no matter what, even if you don't purchase anything.
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>>53380115
I don't know nearly enough about Persona to make a guess, but I'd throw out either the Emperor or the Magician Arcana
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>>53379330
>but_at_least_gay_marriage_is_legal_now.webm
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>>53379970
What do the Tatau do?
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>>53380136
Isn't Iridium more of a crystal?
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>>53379762
With "Setting Things Right", does this mean if say...someone killed a person. If we killed the murderer within 24 hours of the murder, does the victim come back to life? I'm trying to figure out how the perk works.

We're also assuming that the murder happened 'in canon' if that makes a difference.
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>>53380316
http://farcry.wikia.com/wiki/Tatau
http://farcry.wikia.com/wiki/Skills
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>>53380295
Damn liberals ad their damn hoards of zombies.
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>>53380354
>he doesn't now about the greentext story
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>>53380356
>He wants to know though
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>>53380046
Aztec myth jump when? Actually how many mythologies jump do we have and are working on?
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>>53379843
My favorite are the nazis advocating free speech; because when I think civil liberties, I think nazis.
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>>53379982
Would being a serial killer be curable? Her quirk requires her to ingest a lot of the target's blood, which she then transforms into that person. When transformed she has that person's quirk.
She's very yandere, as she likes her men "tattered and reek of blood".
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>>53380356
That's a fucking hilarious greentext, thanks for reminding me anon
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>>53380322
I always thought it looks like one of those psychedelic metals.

might be spelling it wrong, but I am referring to the metal from borderlands.
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>>53379656
There's a pretty good one in Black Lagoon that makes it a passive process. Just hanging around you will make crazy people stabilize and improve.
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>>53380427
We have a Greek Myth jump, someone is working on a Genesis jump, NikaMoth will be working on a Celtic Myth jump soon, and...that's about it, I think.
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>>53380474
If it's caused by mental illness or mental trauma, Dandachi would work.

If she's mentally sound and just chooses to be a serial killer, then maybe not.
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>>53380322
No.
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>>53380530
ok i looked it up and it looks like i have been spelling it wrong.
the one from borderlands is eridium.
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>>53380474
Where is it shown she can use a person's quirk? I could have sworn her power was strictly visual mimicry.
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>>53379762
With Setting Things Right, do you retain knowledge of how things were like when they were wrong, or would you need something else for that?
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>>53380485
I don't know if it's a metal or not. The color always struck me as being a crystal though.
I always assumed it was a crystal, but I honestly don't know.
All the wiki says is that it's a new element, and describes them as being 'bars' of Eridium, so I guess it really is a metal.
>>53380530
Also yes I fucked up the spelling, please forgive me.
Can't believe I did that.

tl;dr Disregards me, I sucks cocks.
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>>53380474
>She's very yandere, as she likes her men "tattered and reek of blood".

I Think I found Alucard's wife.
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>>53380554
>>53380579
Oh, man, I didn't even realize we were talking about something different. Sorry. I figured it was one of those things where a series gives the name of a real metal to something fictional because the name is cool, I know WoW does that, for example. I think WoW actually does have iridium as a crafting resource in it.
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>>53380590
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What are some good IPs that have mediocre jumps?
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>>53380334

Yep!

Killing someone with that perk kills the person 24 hours in the past, undoing everything that they've done since then.
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>>53380354
>>53380370
Sorry it took so long. I didn't have it saved so I had to find it on 4plebs.
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>>53380603
Honestly in borderlands 1 it may as well have been iridium, in 2 though it became important and relevant that it was it's own thing.
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>>53380570
My bad. I had read the part where her stealth ability was the girl she was impersonating. Turns out it was her own ability, allowing her to "disappear" if she holds her breath & blanks her mind.
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>>53380629
I'd say most of the Final Fantasies past 10, but we don't actually have any. Maybe Berkserk? Or OOtS?
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>>53380635
Classic
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>>53380635
That is just plain beautiful. Thanks for sharing.
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Where can I get some awoos?
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>>53380629
There goes the thread.
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Could Bryn kill a jumper with tons of social perks?
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>>53380629
>>53380663
Oh you.
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Could someone help me brainstorm something? I need ideas for powers based on octopi. I'm designing a transformation virus that grants the mutants superpowers based thematically on various animals without actually being that animal's real abilities. For example, the Snake strain can manipulate friction to let the host slide across the ground at super speed or hold tight in a grapple, to emulate constrictors. I want to have at least three abilities for each strain, though, and so far I've only come up with two for Octopus.

The first lets them spray a cloud of "ink", biologically-based nanomachines that they can manipulate in various ways. The simplest is to refract light to make a sort of invisibility aura (octopis are great at camouflage, after all) around them, but I'm sure a clever user could come up with lots of fun uses. The second is to emulate how octopus tendrils have their own pseudo-brains in them and can operate on their own (there's at least one species of octopus that hunts by ripping its tentacles off and throwing them at prey to independently constrict them), allowing the host to bud little biodrones off of their body. But I'm stuck on the third. Anyone else have any ideas for octopus-themed powers?
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>>53380046
Looks to me like an Emperor Arcana.
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>>53380697
Touhou's got the meme herself, you could probably get a wolf Faunus in RWBY, there's Aela in Skyrim, and probably plenty of others.
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>>53380635
Thank you I needed to smile today.
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>>53380697
Spice and wolf
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Where's a good place to go to get practice with mecha that isn't actually a mecha setting?
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>>53380714
Maybe stick to surfaces as if they had suction cups?
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>>53380629
Food Wars
Cabin In the Woods
Code Lyoko but only because of the mandatory drawback
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>>53380723
Delet awoo.
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>>53380752
Pacific Rim? I don't know.
If you've already got a mecha, then any jump is a good jump to practice in your mecha.
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>>53380752
Godzilla the Series. Fight some kaiju, get experience, and have it be relatively low-risk because they're monsters of the week and therefore don't cause nearly as much destruction as they would if it was a movie.
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>>53380758
That could work, maybe. I've already got the super-grip over in Snake, but there's no reason I can't have overlap.
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>>53380767
>trying to escape the fortyheads
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>>53380663
>OOtS
>still good
Dunno senpai.
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>>53380714
Deathworld earth?
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>>53380714
Escape Artist skill. An octopus can essentially squeeze through anything that'll fit its beak, so maybe let people dislocate all their bones and wriggle through anything that'll fit their skull?
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>>53380801
I'll just go around an do this to people
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What's a good point in a jumpers chain to take a Practical Guide to Evil?
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Friendly reminder that on SB, the evil option is to /not/ genocide an entire species.
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>>53380629
Mass Effect
Destiny
Familiar of Zero (the IP sucks, but the jump could be better)
Hellgate: London
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>>53380810
Yeah, that's the inspiration for it. You caught me. I was just archive trawling recently and remembered how cool I thought the Snake and Rhino strains were (the others are kind of boring, if I'm being honest).

>>53380812
Oh, now that's a good one. Yes, definitely going to do that. Maybe even add some minor physics warping, shrinking and growing or even phasing. Thanks, anon.
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>>53380856
BUT I WANT TO KILL THE LAMPREYS
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>>53380723
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>>53380847
Before the villain arc?
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>>53380856
Friendly reminder, I neither know, nor care about whatever you are talking about. I also seriously doubt that anyone else does either.
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>>53380867
Wasn't Digger working on a Familiar of Zero jump? Or was that Heavens? One of the two of them, they collaborate a lot so I sometimes have trouble remembering which is working on which.
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>>53380867
Agreed. Especially Mass Effect.
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>>53380856
Yeah, that sounds about right. Why, are you telling me you've been letting aliens live? You sick fuck.
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>>53380873
awoo
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>>53380867
>>53380906
>Mass Effect
>Good IP
No.
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>>53380847
I don't understand the question.
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>>53380897
I was working on FoZ but dropped it due the frustrations that come with researching light novel things. I was considering picking it up again, but DxD burned me out on the idea entirely. It's also why I dropped Re:Zero.

I think an anon tried picking it up but we haven't heard anything about that in months.
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>>53380867
>Hellgate: London
That shit is a korean pay2win grindfest. The jump is fine.
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>>53380629
Gargoyles, that collective Disney Princess abomination, that bloated Changeling nonsense.
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>>53380936
What power/danger level is it at? What do I need to have before I go there?
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>>53380937
Ah. Well, that's understandable. Light novels can be frustrating to read, both due to translation issues and just the tropes common to them. No worries, then, Heavens.
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>>53380943
>That shit is a korean pay2win grindfest.
>mfw I remember it before the koreans bought it
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>>53380956
Gargoyles is fine, mate. Changeling is alright, too. Disney Princess... could be improved.
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>>53380629
All of them.

All of the jumps are mediocre because all of you people are mediocre.
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>>53380943
Maybe I'm biased because I pre-ordered the collector's edition back in highschool, but the setting has a lot of flavor and promise that was expanded on in various expansions throughout the years.
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>>53380629
Geneology Of The Holy War.
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>>53381006
>flavor and promise that was expanded on in various expansions throughout the years.


Are you joking? The game died within a year and the korean crapfest that it is now added nothing.
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>>53380868
Its cool. That quest was one of my favorite ever written.
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>>53380867
Then make your own and stop shitting the thread up with bait.
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>>53381028
Yeah, Sage of Eyes does some good stuff, even if the dice gods are clearly conspiring to ruin his dramatic tension. CORE, man, that went in weird places because of how many crits the players rolled.
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>>53381024
It was honestly always garbage. Even during it's inception it was trash, it's just bad conceptually to be frank.
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>>53381024
Stonehenge, Abyss, Second Invasion, Tokyo.
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>>53380590
Oh, shit. I want to see this happen now.
Why is there no fan art of this yet?

>>53380654
No worries. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't misreading something.

>>53380635
>>53380724
God, I just love D&D stories like this. Reminds me of my Anti-magic toad thwarting my DM's final boss. Such good times.
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>>53381054
I did like the books though.
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>>53381061
Added what? Like a few texture packs fof the same recycled crap?
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>>53381043
But anon, I must be VOCAL in my opinions and shit-stirring.

How else do I get (You)s.
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>>53381051
Eeeeehhhhhh. I wouldn't be so generous. I would honestly say that good dice rolls saved that quest from turning into the shitshow that rise ended up being.
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>>53380996
>Gargoyles
The balance between the races is way off, with humans getting much more utility and the humans free perk fitting a gargoyle character.
>Changeling
You could rip out the entire contract section and most of the items, fill them in with the hollow perks with the fairy garden as an add-on, it could really use some goblin market based perks and items, it's riddled with typos, and the OC companions are worth about half their CP value and probably shouldn't be there at all, not to mention the location OC.
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>>53381072
New maps, enemies, items, quests, towns.
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Let's Invade an Alien Planet jump when?

I want to kill the Lampreys +300: No negotiation, no diplomacy. Only a plastic bioweapon that turns women and children and entire ecosystems into black goo. And you're on the planet. Good luck!
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>>53381083
Yeah, I'm not enjoying Rise as much, no. I just mean that CORE probably had the worst case of "Sage dice" that he's produced so far.
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>>53381065
Then you have bad taste, because those are garbage too. The entire property was terrible from the outset, the idea itself is shit, nothing under the whole umbrella of content is any good, was ever any good, and has only gotten worse over time.
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Is there a way to make a weapon that can inflict regret on someone if smacked hard with it? Maybe get them to see and feel the pain of those who have suffered because of their actions? A Penance Stare seems rather extreme, what with blinding people.

Also jumper doesn't like eye contact either.
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>>53381109
As if it could be anymore obvious you're basically just being a shithead.
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>>53381093
I don't know what you're talking about. If you're going to shitpost at least offer context. What is this thing about killing alien lampreys with plastic bioweapons?
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>>53381117
>Penance Stare
>blinding
Well. . . they definitely don't see afterward, so in one sense that's correct.
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>>53380937
You're an SBer, right? Why would you just throw away your life like that?
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>>53381117
Guilt, in Shadow of the Colossus.
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>>53381117
Yeah, probably. There are plenty of magic systems that do mind magic, plenty that can do postcognitive viewing into the past, too. Just combine them together in an enchantment on a weapon. At this point there are enough magic systems available to jumpers that there's nothing conceptually out of reach. You might not be able to harness the necessary skill or power needed to attain an effect, but anything you could think of to try is at least theoretically possible.
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>>53381117
Just heal their eyes afterward.

Get over it.
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>>53379762
Does Canon Console do anything that Remove Spoilers can't?
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>>53381084
...It really just looks like you want to rip out all the content in the Changeling jump to make something shitty and empty. Maybe I'd respect your opinion more if you weren't suggesting that a good jump would be better if you removed most of it and left us with a hollow shell of itself, adding nothing of value.
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>>53381162
The latter is an upgrade to the former.
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>>53380969
Anything?
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>>53381117
One of the Final Fantasy jumps has a crystal forging perk, and if you use it with Crystal Concepts from Kingdom Hearts you could literally forge regret into your weapons
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>>53381084
Eh, I guess.

Fair enough, but from my limited knowledge of Changeling it seems okay. Any plans for an update?
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>>53381195
>Final Fantasy jumps

BANNED JUMP
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>>53381195
No, none of them do? And we don't have jumps for the games in which such a perk would fit. You sure you're alright, anon?
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>>53381190
People are desperate not to engage in actual conversation right now and instead would rather shitpost aggressively about nothing. Come back later when we aren't at the mercy of idiots.
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>>53381222
>Come back later when we aren't at the mercy of idiots.
Not possible so long as we allow SBers in this thread.
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>>53381190
Sorry, anon, I'm not familiar with it beyond what I've heard around here. All I know is that at one point the villains create a cliff out of nowhere so they can throw people off of it, because throwing people off cliffs is something that villains do. So they must have at least landscape-reshaping levels of power.
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Take a sabbatical from thread until either mid-August or September.

It's the summer kiddies.
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>>53380810
>>53380868
Jump when?
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>>53380629
B5
ZnT
Far Cry
GI Joe
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Can I have a companion eat the Infinity Stones in MCU and have them give me their power with Sacrificial Bestowment?
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>>53381260
Can I fuck your mother and then use Sacrificial Bestowment to throw the child support payments at a Companion?
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>>53381253
>making a jump of SB-shit
What a pleb.
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>>53381245
>letting them win
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So last jump there was a Bastard jump from SB posted. I don't really know how to do with this. A few days ago or maybe a bit more then a week, I claimed it here and I'm going pretty slow since I need to reread the series. But that jump seems almost done already.

So what happens here? I want to keep making it but those guys seem to want it on here and have a more advanced jump already while I'm still researching.
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>>53381260
FIIIIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAT
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>>53381275
It's just the shitposter transparently trying to kill the thread.
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>>53380714
Limited shape and color change? Sticking to stuff? Fitting through small spaces?
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>>53381245
Nah, I think I'll stick around.

>>53381291
Keep going. SB Jumps don't have anything to do with our Drive unless the author comes here and asks for review. Your claim is more valid.
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>>53381275
It's the one victory you'll get in your sad, pathetic life.

>>53381291

SB has a goddamn drive that they need to learn to start using, and fuck the "OH BUT /TG/'S GETS MORE COVERAGE" excuse. Keep doing what you're doing anon, and besides that it was some jackass who posted it, not the jumpmaker.
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>>53381293
Yeah, and it doesn't block power transfer, only trying to absorb them directly or eating them with a spicy Thanos crust.
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>>53381291
Fuck off. You wouldn't be bring this up if you didn't want to cause drama over it, so you're obviously just a fucking shitposter.
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Somebody get the Initial D poster in here.

Cuz I'm getting a freaky sense of DEJA VU.
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>>53381215
FFXI crafting is done almost exclusively with crystals.
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Honestly, I'm convinced that I'm the only person in this community that isn't a shitposter.
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>>53381291
You claimed it here first, you take your time doing it anon. Not everyone's lightning fast at this, especially if this is your first jump. Take your time and don't worry about having it taken from you. Ask for help if you need any.
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>>53381309
>>53381311
>reee SB fuck off, our jumps are ours we don't want your content
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>>53381311
>you

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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>>53381333
INVALID JUMP
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poTTbrLTtbM&t=0s

The streets are smoking
And the sky is falling down
Though my feet keep moving
Can’t seem to turn myself around
And the fire’s burning bright
Flames glow into the night
My feet keep moving
Something's set my soul alight

Pushed to edge and cornered now
We’ll only run so far
All of our land is broken
We’re the chosen targets in the dark

Taken too much we’ll soon turn round
Cos we’ll only run so far
Unless their force is fronted
We’ll be hunted targets in the dark
In the dark

Can you hear them coming?
The sound awakes the night
Blue sirens spinning
Fallen walls reflect the lights.

And I’ve seen this all before
Greed always leads to war
And their hungers burning
They wont leave without a fight

Pushed to the edge and cornered now
We’ll only run so far
All of our land is broken
We’re the chosen targets in the dark

Taken too much we’ll soon turn round
Cos we’ll only run so far
Unless their force is fronted
We’ll be hunted targets in the dark
In the dark

Taken too much we’ll soon turn round
Cos we’ll only run so far
Unless their force is fronted
We’ll be hunted targets in the dark
In the dark

Pushed to edge and cornered now
We’ll only run so far
All of our land is broken
We’re the chosen targets in the dark

Taken too much we’ll soon turn round
Cos we’ll only run so far
Unless their force is fronted
We’ll be hunted targets in the dark
In the dark
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>>53381350
Explain why it is invalid?
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>>53381291
Maybe collaborate? Ask if they're even going to post it here? The jump seems to be getting closed to finished, but it wasn't even posted by the actual jump maker for feedback. Definitely get into contact with them somehow.
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>>53381332
>Initial D
Why do we still not have a jump for this.
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>>53381334
That's the problem with anonymity, anon. You can't tell who is and who isn't. That's the price you pay. Every good thing has a price.
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>>53381336
What do you think should be done about the SBers? Are they fine in their slums, or do we need more stringent regulations?
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God, you fucks are insufferable. It's literally nothing but shitposting right now, shitposting over and about nothing. I don't even know why people are doing it anymore, they just are.
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>>53381358
Because it was made by a dirty SBer.
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>>53381309
>>53381311
>>53381336
Okay, thanks you guys. I'll probably take up that offer of help eventually but I think I know how to handle all this.

>>53381318
I can go back and get the quote if you want

>>53381359
I don't really like SB and what I've seen of the authors and co authors make me like them even less. The jump that they did post is something I don't like either, for the content and the silly three part thing they're doing.
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>>53381361
>That's the price you pay. Every good thing has a price.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2r2nDhTzO4
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>>53381215
>>53381350

Crystal Metallurgy (FFXIV)
You figure that it would only be a matter of time until somebody attempted to forge a suit of armor out of crystal. Frankly, with the materials available and the tools there, it's more of a surprise that it hasn't happened already. Of course when you actually try it, you'll realize why - the magic surrounding the crystals is simply too strong to be forged using traditional means.
But if traditional means won't work, that just tells you that you need to employ more esoteric means of forging. Forging not with traditional fire, but with the concentrated essence of Aether and fire crystals, you can bring to life a suit of armor with crystal alone - retaining its Aether collecting properties, and magnifying the effects of spells all around it. Perhaps with time, you might be able to make golems with this...

Crystal Concepts (Kingdom Hearts)
You possess the unusual ability to find tangible concepts, often used in this setting to create items through Synthesis. Nothingness, evil, darkness, light, sadness etc. You can now find distilled physical versions of normally abstract concepts left behind by defeated enemies, or hidden in obscure and hard-to-reach places. These concepts are typically related to the place or enemies you obtain the from, such as fiery enemies or locales holding Fire Shards, or a lightning dragon dropping a Lightning Crystal. The quality of the item depends on the difficulty of obtaining it, ranging from Shards from weak enemies, up to Stone, Gem, and finally Crystal for the progressively tougher enemies. What you do with them is up to you; they’d make nice jewellery, that’s true, but I’m sure you can find a better use for crystallized fire or hope. In jump this means you find significantly more Synthesis ingredients you can either use, or sell

Suck it.
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>>53381373
How are you planning on handling the setting? There is kind of an enormous jump in powerlevels midway through Bastard that would warrant separate jumps, and not the weird way SB is handling it.
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>>53381382
>FFXIV
Listen, kid. I know you like to pretend Dirge jumps exist. Hate to break it to you, but they don't except in your imagination. We all have to deal with reality some day, I just hope you'll realize this too.
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>>53381334
I've got some bad news Anonymous.
Everyone is a shitposter. Yes, even you.
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>>53381360
Because we have a Fast and the Furious? Hell if I know.

Now I want DRIFTINGU.
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>>53381405
I'm not quite sure yet. I'm thinking of maybe trying to follow Heavens or Val and have the starting power be around the first part of the series but give you many ways to get the potential to reach the higher powers shown later on. That way you can get those levels of power, even in jump, but they won't cost you all of your points or be way too under priced. I've also thought about how scenarios or challenges might help as well but I've never done those.
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>>53381382
something something Marche something something escapism unhealthy

... I can't even put effort anymore.

I just can't care anymore.
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>>53381373
Eh, Brellin's alright. Black shadow... is kind of an ass, yeah. But he's not completely incompetent. I can see why you wouldn't want to work with him, though.
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>>53381434
>Scenarios

Given this is looking to be your first, I'd hold off on those until you're more experienced with writing in general. Ya know?
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>>53380629
Code Geass, but I belive someone's working on replacement for it.
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>>53381434
Maybe something like MCU Part 2 or DDS Part 2 where the multiple?
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Honestly, how the fuck can you people even pretend to think this place is better than SB?
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>>53380937
Have you checked Ghoul King's analysis of FoZ? They went through and commented on every chapter, noted when the magic system was described, characters, plots, and etc.
https://ghoultyrant.tumblr.com/tagged/familiar-of-zero
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>>53381457
The internet in general's a shitty place, anon.

Nobody's clean.
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>>53379762
This looks like a fun jump.

Do enhancements to the five senses carry over to Flower Power?
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>>53381459
I did, yeah. It was still a headache to manage and process. I wanted to do FoZ originally out of a sense of obligation and because I liked the fanfic concept of 'Louise summons x', but when I saw the actual amount of research to go through (even compiled), I lost the will to continue because I didn't have much emotional investment in the actual canon.

Overall, I just couldn't get the will for it.
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>>53381451
Yeah, that's why I'm going to ask for advice from people later on when I've got some stuff I can show to show where I want to take it.

>>53381455
That could also work, I'm not against writing lots since I do it for work. I guess I'd need help planning that out though.
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>>53381457
At least we don't have rules against being rude, and common decency only exists as far as it needs to for legal reasons.
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>>53381457
Eh, as someone who uses both sites, this place isn't much worse. Or at least the jumpchain community isn't.

The shitposting here is not that hard to ignore if you're not an idiot.
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>>53381513
So you have licence to be as shitty as you're being right now? This is basically you flaunting the fact that you're a piece of shit as if it makes you better than civilized people.
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Going to Hero BBS soon, need to know something.

Which background?
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>>53381544
More that you can call someone out when they're being an insufferable little nigger faggot.
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>>53381555
Mage
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>>53381555
Origin doesn't matter, just go Mage.

Nothing else matters.
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>>53381597
That's a class, not a background.
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> doing dota 2 jump
> just wanna go on a bro adventure with elder titan and zet to fix the world from being a shitty place
> both drawbacks cost 600cp because they're fucking hard, drawback limit is 600
Should I take both, even if I have to negate the bonuses of one? I know it's a bit of a tall order, but it can't be that terrible with two beings of great power like that. And a jumper.
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https://strawpoll.com/1rba2y4
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>>53381544
Are you really fucking going to sit there and act like SB members aren't also rude little shits to each other? Because I can assure you that isn't actually the case. Also, they may not always be assholes to each other, but they're perfectly content to snipe our jumpmakers when they're generally safe in the assumption that no one will defend them.
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>>53381555
Rogue Demon Lord.

Steal all the Multiverse's panties treasure, you foul villain.
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>>53381608
Go with whatever makes for the better story, anon.
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>>53381609
[muffled It Ain't Me in distance]
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>>53381616
There's this thing you need to learn, anon. Need to learn how to do before living in the real world.

It's called "Not giving a shit about what fuckers think of you."

It's really great. You should learn it, it's very liberating.
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>>53381608
Drawback limits are for communists
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>>53381643
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>>53381609
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>>53381667
Wasn't someone working on a jump for this?
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>>53381658
Holy shit lizard

go

go you beautiful onion
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>>53381451
>>53381455
Okay, I think I've figured out how to handle Bastard!'s power jump.

Scenario based capstone booster. There's going to be at least one scenario based around stuff that happens later, not sure what exactly yet, and taking the scenario will give you new and stronger versions of the capstones you bought or new abilities entirely. You will need to beat the scenario though.

I think this way it doesn't cost way too much CP to get the high end stuff but it also isn't offering it for cheap since you'll have to beat difficult challenges to keep that stuff.

What do you guys think?
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>>53381616
>>53381591
You know that's not what I'm talking about when I say you're being shitstains. It's the retarded level of bullshit and shitposting that floods the thread and drowns out everything else including other shitposting.
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>>53381654
Thanks for the "advice", anon, but I actually live in the real world.

And I don't actually care about what others think of me, like, at all. I care about this fool spreading misinformation like SB is some Heaven-on-Earth in comparison to this place. It's not.
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>>53381709
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>>53381709
Source ?
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>>53381658
>Meets up with that other lizard at the end
"Told you I could do it."
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>>53381688
It's called same-fagging. And don't act like everyone in this thread is like that when it can be pinned on a few shitstains we can do very little about. As I said, if you're not retarded, it's fairly easy to ignore. Which is funny that I say that when I'm probably responding to bait.
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>>53381702
Yeah. It's only about normal, where this place is a literal fucking hell to which I wouldn't condemn even my worst enemies to for longer than a day, but in which we've been trapped in for all eternity.
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>>53381603
>>53381555
Retired Hero is awesome.
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>>53381749
Is that Dog Soldiers?
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>>53381749
Dog Soldiers?
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>>53381658
holy shit
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>>53381767
Yep
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>>53381738
>It must be samefagging. It has to be. It can't be that the thread is just infested with retards and assholes.
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>>53381748
It's usually not this bad, anon.

Different strokes for different folks. I suppose I just prefer the easy-to-ignore shitposting of this thread compared to the insidious hate and hypocrisy I can find on SB.
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>>53381792
Nice. Underrated gem.
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>>53381730
Dead Storm
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>>53366141
>SALT
Fucking Jump-Chan!
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>>53381658
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>>53381670
Is it just me or is it weirder that the random dude is in the back there?
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>>53381818
Aionon?
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>>53381841
Wut.
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>>53379656
therapy no jutsu from naruto might work if she's trying to shank you.
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>>53381841
Judge Dredd Jump?
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What cutesy names have you given your waifu(s), /jc/?
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>>53381861
Dredd approves of this post.
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Are we cool now?
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>>53381902
I don't have a waifu, so this questions feels completely irrelevant to me. Just saying.

'My guiding star.'
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>>53381884
Nah, i just edited and imaged it. Worth posting, though.

no idea what aionon's first jump was/
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>>53381800
>It's usually not this bad, anon.
Of course it isn't. It's only sometimes this bad. Usually it's worse, because instead of just spamming the thread with bullshit, they post obvious bait and transparently dredge up old and stupid drama, and everyone responds to it as if they've never fucking seen it before.

Right now though, there's no chance to drown out the garbage with constructive discourse, because everything at all, even the shitposting itself, is being drowned out by a tremendous flood of spammed shitposting. And I know more than one person contributed to this shitshow.
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>>53381930
>no idea what aionon's first jump was/
>what aionon's first jump was/
>aionon's first jump was/
>aionon
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>>53380969
Can I get an answer to this now that you guys are finished?
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>>53379656
Just get a healing factor and tank the stabbings.
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>>53379373
Jump # 114 Tales of Demons and Gods
Starting location: Glory City
Age: 14
Gender: Female
Background: Demon Spiritualist
Perks:
*Soul Realm Cultivation (0)
*Soul’s Grace (0)
*Demon Soul Merge (100, Discount)
*Cultivation Master (300, Discount)
*Refinement of Beauty (100)
*Cultivating Strength (200)
*Sensei (600)
Companions
*Imports X 4 (200)
Drawbacks:
*Bad Memories (+100)
*Nie Li, Nie Li, Nie Li (+ 200)
*Teacher’s Pet (+200)

It’s funny but this world reminded me of the last one a bit. Except it was as if there were an extreme shortage of overpowered badasses. Humanity had been reduced to a single city and were only holding on do to a declining number of badasses.

So I was in school with a kid I can only assume was the protagonist as he humiliated the teacher and suddenly started growing in power, skill and intelligence.

I was able to figure out that he seemed to be doing it for the good of the city (and to get with a high class girl in the class from an important family but I am not going to begrudge him that)

We became closer and I started showing him some o my tricks since he was showing me his and he started beating around the bush of reincarnation. Well I figured what the hell and told him what my deal was.

Well then Nie Li informed me that he had come back from his own future and was trying to prepair the city for an attack that was coming soon by powering up as many of his friends as he could so they and the city would survive.

Well that sounded good to me so I started sharing my jumper techniques as well, Stands got handed out, essence was awoken (or technically improved).

It was fun it was like working with another jumper. I even through a bit of wrinkle in to the plan and made sure he wound up with not only the girl he liked but the girl who had fallen in love with him.
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>>53379762
Can the Canon senses tingling perk be set to ignore alterations made by yourself or your companions?

Could you give examples of how Plothole Research can be used? It seems a bit weak right now, since it looks like all it can do is take you between general destinations. It doesn't work on the inter-planetary scale, and it can't bypass dramatic obstacles. Maybe a more precise definition of dramatic obstacles could help, since it seems vague enough to encompass anything plot-related.
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>>53381947
:^)
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>>53381947
>>53381930
>>53381884
Im glad you guys like salt but if you keep calling me its gonna make me unable to sleep.
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>>53381945
Well, you do you, I guess. This isn't actually bothering me, and if it was I could just switch to another tab. SB on the other hand, has similar levels of assholery, except none of it (as far as I know) is intentional bait. In my mind, that makes it worse.

But really, if you hate this place so much, why not just go somewhere else? Seems like you'd consider this a waste of your time.
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>>53381336
Hey Val, your Warhammer Fantasy jumps say that we need to follow all the rules of army building. Does that include needing a General or can we be the General ourselves?
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>>53381902
Kobrushka

Because she had a callsign of Cobra and my WW2 nerd instincts kicked in.
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>>53382040
Nah, you can be the general. It's more for things like needing armies of certain sizes to field more then 1 or 2 of certain options. Or needing to take some core units instead of nothing but monsters.
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>>53382029
Can Unnatural Durability or Built Like a Tank be improved at all in potency?
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>>53381336
Same question as>>53382040 but replacing the General with a canon companion purchase instead of with jumper.
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>>53382079
Well, same answer as above. You or a companion can serve as a general, including one you pick in setting.
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>>53381808
That's "Dead Snow 2".
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>>53381902
I don't have any.
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>>53382067
>>53382085
Yay!
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>>53382074
Anon your gonna have to remind me which jump, I think thats from ffxi but its late and Im not super sure.

If its the perks from ffxi you can always boost with out of jump perks, buff spells, food buff effects lots of ways.

This took 12 catchas
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>>53381902
Oh god... the only companion I have given a nickname too is Victoria von Doom (Doom-chan) and she isn't even my waifu... and I really hope to keep it that way.
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>>53381924

That's freaking adorable bro
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>>53382146
Yeah, FFXI. These:

>200 Unnatural Durability-Monks are often known for having an abundance of life force, able to shrug off punches and cuts that would often fell anotherman. This is because of the way their bodies naturally strengthen themselves using the chakra or life energy within them. Thanks to this energy you find that your skin is unnaturally tough and resistant to strikes or cuts. Eaily equal to a good set of leather armor.

>400 Built like a Tank-The ability take a hit in its most basic form. Your defenses are, to say the least, positively astounding. Your body and armor alike can both take significantly more damage before it becomes a problem for you with normal stabs and cuts bouncing off of your bare skin as if you were wearing a good suit of chainmaille. Which is a good thing, considering you will most likely be in charge of guarding your party andprotecting them with your life. The downside fthis however is that your defenses gained from this perk do not fair so well against magic and spells cast your way will often meet only as much resistance as they normally would.

Are they limited to the weak sets of armor they're equivalent to, or can they be improved? The former sounds like it'd be increased based on your "chi" reserves, but it's half the cost of the latter, so that would seem a bit odd.
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>>53379324
Very much.
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>>53382191
Monks have natural defenses that are less than paladins, its equal to leather as it says but still pretty tough. Monks dont have high defense they have high hp, basically without outside buffs the paladin built like a tank is superior, and even with buffs its gonna be superior unless you cheese it somehow.

Also I know I fucked up some perks in the jump and I need yet another update its on my to do list for when work slacks.
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>>53382191
I will have to answer any more questions in the morning sorry its time I have to sleep.
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Black ship now has a thunderhawk
Clarified some of the rules about the crate of war gear
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>>53382290
Great job! Loving the jump.As for the Inquisition ship, does it retain modifications? I have a lot of tech I would like to try out on it.
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>>53382269
Huh. Okay.

>>53382284
Alright, thanks.
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>Single?
>One True Love?
>Harem End?

What do, /jc/?
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>>53379762
You still get points for mandatory drawbacks, right?

also,
>not taking BEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEP
it's like people don't understand the setting
consoles are the worst enemy of all
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>>53382313
It's yours, so do what you want with it
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>>53382013

Plotholes are vague in detail - they are, in the PPC universe, literal plotholes. I'll dig around the PPC wiki, give a little more detail and add a note at the end.
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>>53381657
And yet Strike-chan put one in Sisters of Battle.

STRIKE CONFIRMED FOR COMMUNIST
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>>53380697
Fire Emblem Tellius
Noblesse
Overlord
Nanoha
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>>53381902
I tried so very hard. I like giving nicknames to people. But in the end, I only managed to get four to stick. Well, okay, three and a half since the first one is already a nickname. Of course, I speak of the not-at-all famous Showboat aka USS North Carolina. Only don't call her that, because she kind of hates it when it's anybody but us.
Second was our daughter. In keeping with established tradition, she was born with a ship name. Only "Ticonderoga" is a bit of a mouthful and also gets us nasty looks at PTA meetings, so she goes by either Ti or Tico depending on familiarity.
And of course, there's my special little Snowflake. Or Frosty, depending on how upset I am with her at the moment. Granted, the latter I can't take credit for. So thank you random Parahumans Online member, I am forever indebted to you.
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>>53381658
Holy shit, that was amazing. What is this?
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>>53382357
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZGf2cvpe-E

Ame Ame Ame
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>>53381902
Depends on who's the "waifu" at that moment. Sometimes I'm the waifu, sometimes she's the waifu. Okay most of the time I'm the waifu. But a few for her...

"My watchful moonlight."
"Little bloodsucker." - this one usually gets an 'is that seriously the best one you got.'
"Little bat."
"Draculina."

>gif mostly unrelated
>I mean I can't blame him for thinking I was an enemy, but god damn.
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>>53381658
God, that was so beautiful.
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>>53382382
Ee you've finally forsaken the path of the capitalist scum. Welcome, comrade!
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>>53382367
>not-at-all famous Showboat aka USS North Carolina

>waifus a NorCar
>chooses the worst one
do you even fucking CARRY

90% sure Kancolle Second Guadalcanal was just Washington kicking the shit out of Kirishima while the other Japs were in full WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING mode
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>>53382394
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>>53382426
Yes, that is what I'm doing.
I'm totally not infiltrating your ranks in order to purge you or anything.
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>>53382453
In case you didn't see it: >>53373635
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>>53382324
One True Love
With the Benefactor
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>>53382324
Dying a virgin at the end of 100 jumps.
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>>53381902
Well, I have pet names, but I'm the only one who tends to call them by them, so I don't think they count as real nicknames... but why not?

>Raven
Blackbird
I did call her Bunny for a while after Mumbo the Magician waged an extended campaign to recruit her as his apprentice. Every time she refused he gave her rabbit ears, or a tail, or just turned her into a rabbit.

>Rip Van Winkle
Der Mucke
She picks out her own pet names and changes them every so often.
She has poor taste in them, but I oblige.


>Marceline
My Little Problem.
What? I really like the song and she seems to appreciate the reference. She likes to follow this up with, "I'm gonna drink the red, from your pretty pink face.", when I've got a red lollipop in my mouth.

>Lapis Lazuli
N/A
She /really/ dislikes nicknames. Of any kind. She wants to be called Lapis.
End of story. Which I don't mind. Lapis is a pretty name.


>>53382394
That's pretty cute. The nicknames, not the gif. That's just odd.
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>>53382521
Blame Ancilla.

They have weird flights of fancy when it comes to photoshop.
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>>53382439
Yeah, but one of them is still around.
Guess which one it is?
HINT HINT: It's not Washingtub

Full Disclosure, I companioned both of them. I just couldn't break up a pair of sisters.
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>>53382506
Going for the hyper wizard cred?
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>>53382439
Also, if you add in Kirashima yelling insults at South Dakota while the latter flails around uselessly, you have a perfect summation of the battle.
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>>53382584
You're not a wizard until you're diamonds
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>>53381687
>>53381709
wtf am I watching.
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>>53382645
That is the masterpiece known as Dead Snow 2.
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>>53382146
When are you going to make jumps for the rest of the Final Fantasies so that we can actually jump them?
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>>53382752
>implying his won't be anymore garbage
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>>53382802
He's not a SBer so how could his be anymore garbage?
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>>53381902
Main Chain doesn't have any except for "Vashy-Poo"

Writer Chain:
"Mr. Muscle Druid"
What? Caster Cu is fucking ripped and he's a druid.

Doctor's Companion:
"BIG MEANIE PANTS"
EMIYA gets called it because he likes to bully/tease me all the time.
Although in less comedic moments I like to call him "Softie" because he's surprisingly really soft to cuddle. You get used to the smell of metal and industry he always gives off when you're close to him.

Zephie:
"My Diamond Knight."
It's a pun off Diarmuid's name. I couldn't resist it. Although it's been spoiled because Gilgamesh used it to insult him when he died, telling me "Your precious diamond knight has been shattered. He wasn't worthy of such a name, after all."
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d100 or d1000 for judging how a jump goes, lads?
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>>53382970
Neither. Just use your fucking head for once to estimate how you should fare. You shouldn't be rolling dice unless you're unsure how well a plan would go off. Even then , it shouldn't be just one roll. One roll for 10 whole years is asinine.
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>>53382970
11d10-10, for bell curve from 1 to 100 for tasks. d1000 has too much resolution that doesn't matter.
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>>53373635
So you've got 19 sisters fully decked out in a mechanised platoon

I dig it. I'm probably going to do something similar

Though abuse technology replication preks and maybe pull out the IFVs from Girls Und Panzer and have them updated.
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>>53382970
I tried using dice on the thread before!

It was awful.
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>>53382970
Draw 10 tarot cards, roll dice to determine outcomes of uncertain events, always make death a possibility.
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>>53382970
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>>53383117
>always make death a possibility.
That's fucking stupid, senpai. If you're a Skyfather, death shouldn't have even the slightest chance of happening in Breaking Bad.
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>>53382290

>Sisters of battle now cost a companion slot

Fug by shid up :D :D :D
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>>53383192
?
They always did
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In FE Awakening, if you take the avatar drawback, how do you reconcile the bad future?

Did jumper get drunk and do some stupid shit? Did Grima brainjack you? Did Naga just decide to send them back anyways?

What happened?
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>>53383202
>They always did

Then I need to read better
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>>53382324
Mmm, really depends on your personal feelings with someone and how your first choice feels about it. I'd suggest trying monogamy first and see how you feel.

If you want to try a polygamy life, try talking to your loved one first and see if they're okay with it.

>>53383229
I personally headcanon it as jumper got brainjacked by Grima. In my chain, bad future!Nika was damn well aware that they were in the bad timeline and they were doomed to failure, but they didn't want The Doctor and Archer to lose hope so they fought against him to their dying breath.

They lost. But they went out with pride. They didn't let Grima take over them.
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>>53383279
*Didn't let Grima take over them without a fight.
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>>53383192
>>53383273
If you don't think that a platoon or company of SoB in one slot is a deal, I don't know what to tell you anon.
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>>53383202
They have to be imported separately, right? Or importing them divides up what they get amongst them?
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>>53383163
>cartel finds out you're super-human
>some Muerte fanatics decide to carbomb you
>as in, they use cars to deliver the bombs
>close to 800 lbs of mixed explosives on either side of your car in a parking lot
I mean, it might not kill you, but it'd probably hurt.
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>>53382290
Could the black ship also be a reward for the josian campaign. It makes sense to get a ship to transport the army you just got.
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>>53383341
Oh no, it works like the Choir from LoT
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>>53383396
Come on anon
You've got enough
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>>53383453
And how does that work?
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>>53382085
>Val
Can our Hippogryph in Brettonia be a Royal one?
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>>53383453
Just make it so they either have imports split up or must be imported individually. Especially considering the sheer number of companions you've put in one slot, anything else is broken. Relying on an ancient jump to justify something that has been constantly changed to be like I say is not a good argument.
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>>53383530
There are royal Hippogryphs? Are you sure you aren't mixing it up with Pegasi? If there are royal versions, I'll add in one for a little higher cost, similar to the Royal Pegasus.
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>>53383539
I wasn't expecting people to be able to buy 450 sisters
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>>53383462
Thanks for the response. Could you also clarify what the cathedral and what the two lesser living saints can do.
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>>53383539
Do you even know how the LoT Choir works?
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>>53383563
Change it. It fixes the problem entirely. Otherwise you are letting people get 450 times as much whenever they use an import option elsewhere. It's a simple change that is in almost all jumps with similar types of companions.
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>>53383569
Not him but how does it work?
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>>53383563
Just keep it. The LoT example is fine. The anons complaining don't even know how it works, yet they bitch about it all the same.
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>>53383563
I don't think there's a problem with that. We already have Pink Tide. The only difference is that this is in one slot.
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>>53383604
That's a pretty fucking huge difference, given that is the biggest drawback to the Pink Tide.
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>>53383563

Keep it as is
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>>53383594
You know it's been so long since I jumped LoT, I should probably just make sure
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>>53383563
Waiting for you to go pic related
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Why can't anyone just fucking tell me how the option in the light of terra works?
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>>53383642

It's 4 Sister companions in 1 slot
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>>53383642
Because we don't actually know either.

We're just arguing.

Violently.
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>>53383642
>>53383579
>>53383521
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>>53383594
Anon, people know how it works. They think it's bad that it works that way. Given how every group option nowadays is clarified to not work that way, this one should be too.

You should not give out options that let people get more CP worth out of other jumps.
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>>53383668
>>53383654
Wow, so exactly what people have been arguing against. Now you just look like idiots trying to shut something down because you want an option.
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>>53382645
Sweden getting what it deserves.
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>>53383642
Why can't you just go read the LoT?
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>>53381945
Skimming through this thread is surreal. I'm seeing posts like this that are exploding at what looks like absolutely nothing.
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>>53383741
welcome to every sodding night in /jc/
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I think an easy solution would be to limit companion slot to 100 units. Just a note would fix it all, and Vanquish does much the same thing with peak-human, augmented, space marines. I see this becoming a standard
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>>53383747
Summer is worse tho
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>>53383747
Someone concern trolling is your every night? 'cause I'm not seeing anything worth his upset so that's what it must be.
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>>53383345
>hurt
>beings who play marbles with planets and toss around galaxies at their strongest
Lol no. Maybe, /maybe/ it's possible that they might be scratched if every single nuclear weapon that ever existed was detonated at the same place and time. Even then, it's not likely.
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>>53383750
That doesn't fix the problem at all. An easy solution is just saying that purchases are divided up between them all but you can also choose to give it to just one of them if you like. That way they can stay a group companion but you don't have them getting way more out of imports then anyone else.
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>>53383750
There's an easy bypass for that with slot merging items or perks. There's no point anyways. Are people really going to write out their 450 sisters and take the time to do backstory and character development for all of them?
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>>53383750
Anon, how does that address the problem?
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>>53383717
>Implying LoT isn't a multitude of massive documents
also, some anons don't even know how to ctrl+f. Be gentle.
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>>53383764
Have you actually heard anyone say that they think a multi-companion should get the full benefits rather than having it split up?
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>>53383788
I've seen people argue against that being a thing, so one must assume that they want them to get the full benefits. Otherwise, why are they saying no?
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>>53383787
I'm really trying not to spam spoonfeed memes
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>>53383563
The guy reads to me like he just wants to harass, so I'd ignore him.
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>>53383788
>not just using Sacrificial Bestowment or The Next Generation to give them the full benefits anyway
Look at this pleb. :^)
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Why do people act like companion rules are still a big deal?
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>>53383811
This guy is attempting to get an argument ignored by insulting the arguer, please ignore him as he contributes nothing to the discussion.
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>>53383798
>I've seen people argue against that being a thing, so one must assume that they want them to get the full benefits.
But you haven't seen anyone argue for it, correct?

>Otherwise, why are they saying no?
Maybe they're reactionary faggots who instead of doing the research and getting the information first just decided to start shitting everywhere. Have you considered that possibility?
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>>53383811
Yeah, there has got to be a point where I step back.

I mean everyone is just nitpicking now.
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>>53383833
It's just a bunch of dumbass anons tilting at windmills. Go about your business, Sister Burke-chan. You're doing good things.
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It'd probably be frowned upon if I offered something that allowed you to make or develop Warehouse Attachments, yes? If I did something like that, should I just make it a Post-Chain reward?
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>>53383828
Strike herself said "No, I'm doing it this way instead" in response to a post asking her to change it so that imports were divided or focused on single units. So if she wasn't originally intending everyone to get the full benefits, what exactly was she intending? That's who most of the arguments were intended against.

>>53383833
holy shit you cannot be fucking serious
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>>53383741
It's real weird, you mostly learn to ignore it though.
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>>53383833
Please don't do this. People aren't even being rude when asking you to change it. You're listening to someone telling you to ignore an argument because he doesn't like it.

You've barely even addressed any of the arguments raised as to why you should change it and they're not bullshit arguments. People have explained why options like this are problematic.

Please don't just dismiss it out of hand.
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>>53383861
>So if she wasn't originally intending everyone to get the full benefits, what exactly was she intending?
Maybe you should have asked this and waited for an answer instead of making shit up and throwing a tantrum. Again, all I see is a bunch of ill informed anons campaigning against some imagined injustice.
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>>53383859
Yeah, no. Just...don't offer something like that.
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>>53383861
>>53383882
And how he samefag concern trolls because nobody is taking his bait.
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>>53383563
Is there even a problem? It seems fine as it is bro/sis.

Also, this is kinda awkward, but I thought 4chan was like 90% male and right now I'm kind of drunk. So I have to ask Strike-chan.
Are you a woman?

Because it really seems like half or more of our prolific jump makers are female. I didn't really give a fuck with Red or Valeria, because one of those is autistic, the other is Australian, and neither is remotely human when your rub two brain cells together. But you I really can't place. So explain now please. What the fuck are you?
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>>53383898
and now this kind of trolling I'm not sure what the fuck is
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>>53383892
No, tell me anon. Since she's decided I and the others can get fucked, how about you tell me what other option she may have been thinking of, since you seem to believe there is one.
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>>53383882
>options like this are problematic
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Can someone please post Vals Warhammer fantasy jumps please?, I can't seem to find them
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>>53383782
>muh writing and backstory
Not everyone does that anyways. And besides, if someone wants 450 sisters, they want footsoldiers rather than characters. And 100 is easier to write about anyways if you're so hung up on that. I know i will be

Even better idea is to limit units to one slot based on company size, which is normally ~100. Strike Chan's decision, obviously, but this is a solid basis moving forward.

As for imports, i neither know nor care. Mass Producing gear and augmentations is a cakewalk for any jumper that's invested in fielding any forces of their own.
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>>53383861
>>53383882
>holy shit you cannot be fucking serious

Anon, there is a limit to how many things I can take into account.

Now granted, the companion issue is major, and will be addressed in the final.

>>53383898
I identify as an Arleigh Burke class guided missile destroyer which means my pronouns are female
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>>53383934
Can you please just tell me now what you plan to do. I'm not asking you to climb a mountain. I just want to know that it's changing. There's been a bunch of suggestions as to how it can be changed, are you taking any of those? Is it staying the same? Can I get some idea of how it is going to work?
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>>53383906
>Since she's decided I and the others can get fucked, how about you tell me what other option she may have been thinking of, since you seem to believe there is one.
Holy shit, you really are dense aren't you? I just spent the last 10 or 20 minutes trying to explain that jumping to conclusions and acting like some reactionary faggot is counter-productive, and now you want me to jump to conclusions?

Again, fuck write it down or something this time: first you ask, then you wait for an answer, then you ask for a clarification on the answer, and you repeat that until clarity is achieved.

You need to sort yourself out, m8.
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>>53383555
I think that is from the Armies Project fan books an anon posted a few threads ago.
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>>53383555
Hey Val, does Mystical Leech only work on Prana or does it work for other magical energies as well?
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>>53383960
Just wait. Fucking hell, he's encountered a problem he didn't foresee and now he's going to work on it. He's been on every day since the bare bones WIP dropped, you can wait a day or so for the final version.
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>>53383833
>this BS
Holy shit, the parallels between you and SJ-Chan are amazing.
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>>53383960
You can import them individually or you can import them in a group. If imported in a group the perk or item or what ever is either applied to a single sister or divided among them, as the jumper prefers.
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>>53383905
This is 4chan you tumblr fuck. If you can't deal, maybe you should chug some bleach, avoid water, and take a long nap.

>>53383934
Hmmmmm. Technically I can't disagree with that. Good job.
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>>53384009
Thank you for the answer, I'm very happy with it.
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>>53384009
Just ignore him, based on >>53384008 he's just shitposting at this point.
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>>53383966
Huh. Well, I haven't read the fan versions of existing books, only scanned the indexes to see if there were new units. I'll add it in soon then.

>>53383989
Uh, which one is that from again? FSN or Zero?
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>>53384017
It is extra tumblr in here tonight
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>>53383923
Can someone please post Vals Warhammer fantasy jumps please?, I can't seem to find them
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>>53384035
FSN - Realta Nua.
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>>53383764
I agree with this. Include a clause where the nature of the perk affects it's strength? ("Quirky" from Twilight won't be nerfed at all between them, whereas "Angel of Death" from Imperium gets shared, with each sister having like 5-10% of it's power. Or perhaps just 5.
>>53384009
100 sister/slot
Imports get perks shared based on the nature of the perk. It is fitting for the nature of the sisters. Is this possible? Is pic related? Should i shut up?
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>>53384017
I mean the neither is remotely human bit of your sodding post

you fucking drunk-ass fruitcake
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>>53384020
Could there be more then one person arguing for something? You are such a blatant shitposter.
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>>53384020
It's probably Dirge shitposting again. He's famous for doing this kind of stupid shit.
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>>53384045
>Should i shut up?
Wouldn't hurt, we're past it now
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>>53384045
No. That just mitigates the problem. It means that sometimes the issue is in full force, with them all getting more then they pay for, while other times it is equally shared.

It has to be an equal divide too, otherwise the problem remains. 5% each when you have 300 sisters means you're still getting more overall.
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>>53384035

POST WARHAMMER FANTASY JUMPS PLEASE
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>>53384042
Oooh, that one. Yeah, any magical energy is fine.
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>>53384045
I don't think if it's divided equally I need to put in an upper cap.

Most people seem to be willing to outfit them properly and build a balanced team anyway.
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>>53384083
Anon, they're in the uploads folder, under Warhammer Fantasy- Army Name. If not there, they're in a Warhammer Fantasy folder in the unimaged section somewhere.
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>>53384083
Stop asking to be spoonfed. We have a drive, and 4plebs is a perfectly functional archive.
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>>53384083
DO YOUR OWN FUCKING LOOK-UPS
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>>53384087
Just let people do what they want. Do people really think that we're going to suddenly get the next fifty threads flooded with nothing but talking about how everyone took the mandatory SoB jump for its 450 sisters?
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>>53384085
Alright, thanks. Will the type of energy gained be the same as that used by the item, or can it be chosen?
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>>53384119
Exactly

I mean if it happens I'll Nerf the shit out of it deal with it. But for now this seems okay.
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>>53384137
Same type as the item, for what it matters. It won't work on things like chakra or ki.
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>>53384085
Guess I'll just keep using the First Magic to eat an endless supply of 5-dot Artifacts. Looks like my kilo-kilomote is finally viable. :^)
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>>53384097
>Anon, they're in the uploads folder, under Warhammer Fantasy- Army Name. If not there, they're in a Warhammer Fantasy folder in the unimaged section somewhere.

Thanks, I saw the Warhammer dogdays by it self and thought my drive was acting up again

>>53384118
>>53384115

no
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>>53384073
>No. That just mitigates the problem
Welcome to how compromises work.
>>53384087
That's fair. Good jump, by the way. Excited to be an extension of the Emperor's hand.

If the 450 in a unit is an option, can you add a note to make companion slots smaller? Say, Two 50 sister slots, etc?
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>>53384142
please tell me we didn't just go through all of that for you to change it back because someone gave an argument consisting of "y not tho".
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>>53384168
But there's no reason to compromise. Every other option that isn't two years old works this way. The example people are using to justify it is from a years old jump often decried for stupid mechanics.
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>>53384168
>name
Not if you don't want to be shitposted at because it's not "kosher".
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>>53384154
Alright, thanks.
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>>53384142
...

so is it back to 450 times as good as any other import or was this post just another troll and it is working as you said it would in the final version earlier?
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>>53384182
>Every other option that isn't two years old works this way
That isn't true but you're probably trying to bait people into dirgeposting again so just stop harassing the jumpmaker with your fun police crap.
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>>53384182
See:name
>>53384186
True. So don't post about it, or everyone just chill and discuss our escapist imagination game in a positive manner.
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Do you guys do writeups for your jumps?
How? Do you do summaries, do you go in depth?
Just kinda started out and since this is good brain food/writing practice I wanna know
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>>53384171
>>53384204
No, I think we're in a state where I can be a bit more firm with my decision.

I'm saying that if it becomes the go to must jump and all the builds are 450 sisters then I'll do something about it. And that the ruling here >>53384009
is the rule that I'm sticking with.
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>>53384161
You actually come up with some decent ideas sometimes, smug shitposter-san. Why not use your powers for good?
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>>53384235
Okay, that makes sense. I seriously doubt it will become the go to build with that change in mind. I'm sorry for accusing you because of a misread post.
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Anons already forgetting about the Kerbal jump
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>>53384257
Wasn't that a divided import too tho?
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>>53384257
There are much more interesting options there, though.
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>>53384231\

Varies from Jump to Jump. Sometimes I just do simple summaries if I don't care much about the setting and nothing much is going on personally. Sometimes I do more in-depth writeups during more eventful or exciting Jumps. No real requirements or whatever.
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>>53384231
I started out with short writeups, then found the challenge where you need to write to get a decent number of points on SB and now am actually writing out scenes from jumps.
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You know sometimes I feel like abandoning this place for a few months before coming back for the new jumps. Its really exhausting to go through at least two of theses threads a day.

And its not like I've really started a chain yet since I'm waiting for some of the new/updated jumps to come out first.
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>>53384279
It's not the worst decision, no. Take a breather, step back, come back at a later date.
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>>53384235
>I'm saying that if it becomes the go to must jump and all the builds are 450 sisters then I'll do something about it.
Even if it does, all it says is that the people doing it are powerwankers who can't stand to use anything except minmaxed jump builds. When they start telling other people how their builds are stupid or invalid because it isn't 450 sisters that's when you know they're being retards.
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>>53384231
Depends on the jump and my own mood at the time. Sometimes I get fired up and end up doing something more long form that directly details events and could actually be called a story. Most times I write nothing and just enjoy the ideas rolling in my head, partly because I'm a huge coward and am spooked by the idea that people would take exception to my supposed deeds and bitch that my writing is invalid, partly because I don't actually have any particular passion for writing.

I've been actively working against that though, so most of my jumps have a paragraph at minimum of stuff. Sometimes it's a sort of After Action Report going over the interesting stuff, sometimes it's a in-character introspective on what's been happening in the Chain, sometimes it's just key/defining scenes.
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>>53384302
In that case it wouldn't be every build, would it?
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>>53384231
It's been a trial-and-error process. Here's a few tips I make use of.

1. The earliest jumps should be the most detailed and will shape how your Jumper sees the chain in the long-term. Use for early characterization and how they survive, even thrive, in their circumstances...or don't.
2. Don't sweat the small stuff, and save details for the most important or 'cinematic' parts of your jump.
3. While most Jumpers inevitably become larger than life, you don't necessarily have to be involved in/fix everything ever. Or break it, if you're a villainous type. Take a moment to step back and do some character-building, or companion interactions.
4. An important mantra is 'the world goes on without Jumper'. Natives and pre-existing plots have their own momentum, thoughts, and ambitions. Conflict or unexpected turnabouts from these are where most of your writing will be made.

This is just my own two cents, of course.
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>>53384252
Pic-related. :^)

But seriously, it's not like there's a trademark on spoilered emoticons. There are at least three of us. That wasn't meant to be a full shitpost, anyway.
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>>53384279
You don't even need to be in the thread period. Just bookmark the drive and search for a jump when you feel like it. Half the time this place is about shitting on other people or shitting on jumps which probably doesn't even interest you.
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>Jump #339: Exalted - Mortal Hero Gauntlet

Gauntlet failed. Being a mortal man and getting the attention of things that are not mortal means rapid death.

Moving right along!
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>>53384322
Knowing some people they'd still argue that it's every build, except they'll probably phrase it as every valid build.
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>>53384342
Not even a roll, senpai?
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>>53384351
Not on the board, no. I don't roll on the board. But I did roll for it and botched it pretty badly.
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>>53384342
Pffffff
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>>53384279
Not a bad idea really. You can just pop in every now and then, ask if certain Jumps got made, and start your chain when everything you're wanting is out.
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>>53384342
Englightened essence and martial arts are your friends.
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>>53384382
Well I know that NOW.

So which of the four Exalted jumps do I go for first?
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>>53384382
Means jack shit if you pissed off a Dragonblooded.
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>>53384342
Redo! Mulligan! Spend all your Moxie and Fate points!

You will get the Exalted Daughterus one way or another!
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>>53384396
Tried that. Three rolls that, when ADDED TOGETHER, would not have succeeded to survive the gauntlet.
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>>53384405
What were the numbers?
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>>53384394
Mortal > Dragonblood > Sidereal > Lunar > Infernal. Increasing levels of power.

>>53384395
Not even. A young Dragonblood at Essence 2 or 3, which is most and what you're likely to encounter, aren't that far beyond you if you took what I said to. Get the yellow jade sword and you're fighting at the same level without charms, and that's where your martial arts come in.
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>>53384424
aren't there other exalted jumps in the works? what are left, solars and primordials?
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>>53384461
We're waiting on Solars, Alchemicals, and that one undead-Solar-exalt.

Plus whatever E3 stuff gets made.
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>>53384461
Alchemicals and Abyssals, too.
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>>53384394
If you take Elder Essence, I'd say do Lunars first, because starting with the jump that means you were around earlier in the setting makes sense to me. Otherwise, >>53384424 .
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>>53384394
>>53384493
Sorry, Elder of the Pact, I meant.
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>>53384461
>primordials
Are we getting a Primordial War jump?
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>>53384622
Think they just got a name mixed up with one of the Exalt types.
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>>53384231
About 1000 words per jump as a summary. Then think about individual scenes and from whose pov would be best to explore said scene.
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>>53384231
On occasion, yes.

And that depends on how much I know about the setting, how much energy and time I have at any given moment, how inspired I feel and whether the jump's likely to be updated soon but-I do both with practically no rhyme or reason.

Honestly, a bad bagel can be the difference between like 6 posts plus a big pastebin to explain what just happened, or four sentences.

>>53384461
>tfw you realise the girls are actually running from that SMILING MOON

"Polly, it's right behind us! Also I lost the sandwiches!"

"Just smile and run, Dora. It moves faster when you're afraid"

>>53384342
Is this, dare I say it, the shortest build in the history of Jumpchain?
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>Added notes for the Order Minors in regards to future imports
>Gave the 2 Geminae Superia 2 capstones that you can choose
>Celestine comes with all the capstones
>Added a not about the cathedral to the end of the document.

We're about ready to publish this right?
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>>53384743
I dunno, looks like you've got another 87 iterations to go.
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>>53384761
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>>53384743
>Celestine comes with all the capstones
And that when Jumper shanked a bitch out of sheer Jealousy.

More seriously, just remove the backsliding thing here
>and you will lose them should you fall into irrationality that is not related to faith in the Emperor.
and you're good to go.
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>>53384743
>>Gave the 2 Geminae Superia 2 capstones that you can choose
>>Celestine comes with all the capstones
Don't they have their own abilities? Why do they need to have the capstones?
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>>53384863
The capstones are literally powers of faith available to all saints and any sister strong enough in faith, from Dark Heresy. So no, they actually fucking have those. This has been gone over before, so unless you're just shitposting, stop.
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>>53384493
>means you were around earlier in the setting makes sense to me.
Not strictly necessary. Take Lunars later with a continuity drawback and Elder of the Pack, and it means when Jump-Chan reinserts you as a Lunar she does it a few hundred years in the past, you just didn't notice until the jump starts proper.

Also a It's called Elder of the Pact and not Elder Essence because it only applies to the Lunar Exaltation. Although it would be neat if the Perl was vaguely worded so it applied to all Exalted jumps. Go Sidereals, and suddenly you're centuries embedded into the bureaucracy of heaven.
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