MTG Modern General

Posting again. I like the slower version better than the Mox Opal/Welding Jar/Bauble version, feels much more consistent. Steam Vents is to fetch for EE.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/13-02-17-modern-tezz/

Reposting deck ownership poll from last thread: http://www.strawpoll.me/13006237

So far 54% of people have 1 or 2 decks.

>>53357728
Don't have much to say. I've been playing the turbo version you mentioned and have been having a lot of success online and at small to medium events.
Whir of invention is truly insane
Inventors fair is clutch too. I used it to grab an ensnaring bridge with 2 life remaining against eldrazi taxes and managed to durdle around and pull out a win

I want to get into modern with a relatively cheap deck that I won't get bored of playing in a few weeks.

This last point is very important.

What deck would you recommend ? I thought about affinity but it's quite expensive. Ad nauseam is cheap but very linear. Sooooo... Merfolk ? The deck looks fun and ranks at T2 right now.

Any recommandation ?

>>53358083
What style of gameplay do you like? From what you've listed so far, it seems you like combo and synergistic aggro. Sound right?

If Ad Nauseam is your baseline for cheap, there are plenty of options.

>>53358083
Merfolk is extremely boring

>>53358152
I like everything that requires me to think through my plays. Affinity and merfolks are great decks for me because they have some "gotcha" mechanism and can go the extra mile if piloted right.

I listed Ad Nauseam for mainly its pricetag. Also the deck needs to be competitive

>>53358281
Well along those lines you've also got Dredge.

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>>53358083
Merfolk is great if you want a cheap, viable, Aggro deck that isn't Bolt tribal.

I usually hate playing Aggro but it's a lot of fun.

>>53357432
Weekly Modern Metagame:
>https://www.mainphasemtg.net/modern-tier-list/2017/5/15/modern-tiered-list-weekly-update-and-analysis-for-51517

>>53358340
>>53358736

Dredge or Merfolk it is then. thanks !

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Have we finally settled on 2 Spire of Industry and 2 Glimmervoid for Affinity? I've been liking the even split so far, though it does make me feel sad to have two ~$20 cards not being used anymore.

Need some help modern general do i finish buying the pieces for 8 rack (all i need is the bridges and 2 more lilianas) or do i build burn?

My lgs meta is mostly midrange and tron with a few combo decks here and there however I am not sure burn would perform much better than 8 rack though i have only played naya burn a few times when i borrow my friends naya burn deck to playtest.

Anybody have any advice or tid bits of knowledge?

>>53359883
If 8 rack is what you've been building, you might as well finish it rather than start over with burn.

>>53359398
Most run 2-2, smart people run 4 Spire.

>>53360087
Running 4 Spire makes it less likely that you'll be able to generate colored mana painlessly. The reason to run any Spires at all is to reduce the odds of an awkward opener where one removal spell kills your Glimmervoid.

>>53360087
>willingly fucking your scapeshift matchup

>>53360087
Smart people actually realize one of affinity's strengths is a painless manabase and willingly throwing that away is just retarded. Spire serves to eliminate awkward glimmervoid openers, not to replace it entirely

>>53357887
Not exactly surprising truth be told. I own 4 decks myself, but two of those are Stompy, and an unfinished Mono Green Tron deck That I am slowly working towards turning into GB Tron.

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>>53360270
I like this duder's logic, a split seems best for minmaxing robits, reducing awkward glimmervoid openers while still maintaining a relatively painfree manabase.

hope y'all are having a great day, you beautiful souls.
post some memelists for me, will ya?

Best way to steal packs?

>>53361274
Steal singles you noob.

>>53360964
9chad is such a hilarious deck. If I wasn't allergic to control I would pick it up.
>>53361274
By standing in the middle of wallmart exclaiming very loudly that Hitler did nothing wrong and then running off amidst all the confusion

>>53361274
Take them into the Walmart bathroom duh

>>53361274
>stealing random lottery tickets
>not steal the deck some retard left in his bag unattended.
baka senpai desu

>>53361274
Seems like your question should be "best way to trigger autists" because this method you've been trying isn't working out.

>>53361274
shove entire booster boxes into your boicpucci

You might need some practice by doing heavy squats with a squat plug of the appropriate size.

>>53360964
There was a guy playing something very similar to this at my LGS on friday, but I don't know how he did since I didn't play against him.

>>53361274
Just snatch a few packs and take them in the restroom. Good luck getting any value though, its mostly standard shit.

>>53361391
Can confirm, this is the best method.
If the manager is around I'll sometimes just grab a handful of loose boosters and shove them up there.

>>53360199
A priori odds of having more than one colored spell to cast during a game and not having Opal or Drum or basic mountain for blasts are low and the matchup's fairly hopeless no matter what you do excluding stacking your deck.
>>53360270
Pain only really matters vs Burn, the only deck that could realistically race and which 60+% of the time doesn't.

>>53361618
Now look at it from the other direction. With two Glimmervoids in your deck, the odds of drawing both of them in your opening 7 is only ~1% (the odds of drawing 2-3 lands in general is ~55%). Having multiple Spires is only improving your matchup against removal heavy decks, which are still going to be hopeless.

So I ask you, why do you want 4 Spires?

>>53361618
Kinda feels like comparing 1% apples to 1% oranges, maybe a 3-1 split could be argued for, but basically both have miniscule downsides in different situations so you might as well divide your eggs into two baskets.

Don't get me wrong though, I really like this sort of autistic discussion around here, really circulates my cortex

>>53359125
I'm more partial to dredge, but you do you man.

>>53361325
>>53361508
Sounds like pussy shit

>>53361391
>>53361587
I can do this

>>53361365
I genuinely wanna know

>>53361351
>>53361299
My LGS and all those around me are way too small, and I haven't been to any big events.

>>53361808
4 Spires allows you to keep any one-lander with business since the scenario of kill your turn 1 play sac glimmer lose the game doesn't exist while having no relevant drawbacks for the aforementioned reasons. BGx/UWx are definitely not as hopeless as Dredge or Valakut.dec, but the most common ways you lose said matchup is either not drawing a single Etched Champion w/ payoff *or* getting armageddon'd.

>>53361988
Don't actually steal cards you fucking poorfag
Get a fucking job. Even Working at Mcdonalds earns you enough to build yourself a decent deck after a month or two.

>>53362111
>no relevant drawbacks for the aforementioned reasons
There are relevant drawbacks though, one of which you have already mentioned. Glimmervoid is substantially better against Burn, which is not a certain matchup for us, as well as being better in general in any situation where we are racing against a deck that isn't infinite combo (or effectively infinite combo).

You are hurting likely matchups in order to eliminate an unlikely situation that we are already minimizing by moving to a split.

>>53362210
Why not?

>>53362210
>taking the bait

>>53362246

>tryhard $$$ cucks trying to justify playing a $20 card just because it gives you like half a percentage point over playing the cheaper card

fucking autists, it LITERALLY doesn't matter the majority of the time

>>53362513
Nice job addressing his argument faggot. Someone must be upset because he couldn't afford 2 glimmervoids

>>53362513
If you aren't autistic enough for this discussion to matter to you, Affinity is not the deck for you

Signed,
Affinity player.

>>53362533
Which is bizarre if you can already afford the expensive playsets in Affinity.

>>53362533

>implying i play a gay deck for autists

nice try

>>53362210
>loyalty to big corporations
>muh morals
Pathetic desu

>>53362704
>gay deck for autists
Autistic? Yes.
Gay? No. Robots don't have dicks anon.

>>53362935
Nigga I don't give a fuck if you rob walmart blind (I've stolen god knows how many packs from there), but if you steal from your LGS or another player your a piece of shit who deserves to get raped by sandniggers

>>53363024
How do you steal packs from Wal Mart?

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>>53363011
>implying Ravager doesn't booty-ravage with his huge robo-cock

>>53363033
Stealing from Walmart is easy as shit. Just take a pack or two into the bathroom, heck you can straight up walk out of the store with product that doesn't have the safety sensor bar, just hide it in your pocket. Back when I was an edgy 17 year old I used to wear a top hat everywhere. I managed to steal at least 30 packs by hiding a few on top of my head. Just act natural and you'll get away with it, I work in security and let me tell you, when looking over footage, security always looks for shifty people who are always looking around.

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>>53363066
Ornithopter is actually an onahole. The idea that it's a flying machine is just a ploy so that parents can have it out in front of their kids.

>>53363136
>That guy in the corner
>who the fuck is this kid and why is she playing with my bong?

>>53363158
If it's a bong, the guy in the bottom left has already used it.

>tfw wotc banned the wrong eldrazi land

why is wizards so retarded? why did they think it was okay to leave the fucking non legendary sol land legal?

>>53363322
Eye of Ugin was legendary, but on its own it acted like multiple lands and was even better than sol ring. It could easily effectively generate over 4 mana in a single turn, and it also incidentally worked as a tutor.

I want to try to play some BW tokens, how does this build looks:

Blessed Alliance x3
Fatal Push x3
Thoughtseize x2
Inquisition of Kozilek x4
Murderous cut x1
Collective Brutality x1
Dusk // Dawn x1 (for memes sake)
Anguished Unmaking x1
Raise the Alarm x4
lingering Souls x4
Spectral Procession x4
Zealous Persecution x4
Intangible Virtue x4
Sad Sorin x2
Chad, Ally of Pussyslayers x1

Your average BW landbase. Should I drop Blessed Alliance for your regular PoE package? I did some testing and Push+ Blessed Alliance worked better than Push +PoE on average.

>>53363383
>Chad, Ally of Pussyslayers
This should be his official name from now on, though maybe Pussycrushers (PC bro) would be better.

>>53363383
Am I missing something or am I not seeing Bitterblossom here?

>>53363127
How do you look for the sensor? all they got is blister packs / fat packs and I think they all have sensors inside the cardboard.

>>53363476

Replaced by Raise the Alarm, mostly due to budget reasons. I can't justify spending like 30 bucks on a niche card that has no use in other decks. If I could get it like 15$ a pop I would buy them.

>>53363383
I think this is a lot weaker without Bitterblossom and that lady that has protection from red.

This seems to spell focused for making your tokens and, because of that, seems really non-resilient

>>53363504
Open e'm up silly that's how. That is why you take them into the bathroom, so you can open it up while you take a shit.

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Been out of the loop with Modern for a while. When did this become such a big thing?

>>53363655
when they printed electromancer 5-8

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check this shit out.

Is anyone using Soul-scar mage and Hash Mentor?

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>>53363727
lost the game next turn.

>>53363570

As I fully agree in terms of Bitterblossom (played in 2 out of 4 decks according to mtgtop8), Auriok Champion isn't played as much (1 out of 4). She also suffers (just like Bitterblossom) from "retarded price syndrome".

>>53363655
>>53363687
Don't worry, wotc will ban Storm again. They always ban Storm again.

>>53363735
Mentor is alright. Maindeck playable, but I personally don't like using him because he doesn't have haste, nor does he hose as hard as eidolon.
Only run mage if there is a high number of CoCo decks in your meta
Essentially, they are both SB tech and that is about it.

can someone explain to me how people consider "interactive" magic to be of a higher quality than uninteractive magic? they're literally both just as awful when it comes to gameplay experience. like the "interactive" decks want you to not play magic, they want to kill all your threats, or counter all your threats, or literally pick your hand apart so you can't play the game. that's just miserable. it's just as miserable as losing on turn 3 to like storm or something. someone help me figure out how interactionfags think

>>53363749

i doubt it, this iteration of storm is really easy to hate out my dude

>>53363808
They're autists. That's really all you need to know.

>>53363820
>implying wotc's hatred of Storm is rational

rate this mono green devo brew
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/nissas-devotion-2/

>>53363843
godamn it i forgot to move the primal commands out of SB
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/nissas-devotion-2/

>>53363843
How fast does it goldfish?

>>53363891
nice try with the bait, but you can't get me anon

>>53363820
same as dredge, they'd never ban GGT again

>>53363805
I like Harsh Mentor, but play 2-3 in the side. Bring it in against Tron (punishes the cards they play instead of their lands), Devoted Druid combo (the one guy who plays it has no maindeck removal), and a couple of fringe decks I see once in a while. I say it's better than Eidolon in the right matchups, but way worse in others.

>>53363914
but its not bait

>>53363912
decks super fast, the mana get out of control quickly, ive done t2 coco, also coco into e wit into coco in that same turn

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https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-u-37003#paper

So this deck costs about 200€ on magicardmarket, Mtggoldfish says $581. Why are Americans getting jewed so hard?

Also should I buy the deck?

>>53363136
Man, the artist was fucking lit when he was working on the backdrop of this.

Then he got to the fordrop and it all looks like garbage.

But look at that background work, though

>>53363978
How fast is "super fast" in terms of actually ending the game? The problem with decks like this that I've seen (and played against) in the past is that they just aren't fast enough compared to the linear decks in Modern that are killing you on turn 4 (or sometimes turn 3).

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Is Modern the FGC of Magic: The Gathering?

>>53364076
It isn't overtly sexist, so no.

>>53364076
>top tier player losing to mill.gif
Yes.

>>53363972

how is it not bait? 4x coco is REALLY bad in this deck. you need at least 26 creatures with cmc 3 or less for the card to be consistently good.

>>53363891
Green devotion is my favorite deck in modern. What does Steward add over Garruk? How often do you end up with a sprawl and elf but no forest in your opener? I also very much prefer 3 or 4 prime times, even just dropping one is pretty back breaking against any other fair strategy. How do you beat tron? Do you just not or is plow under+witness your only gameplan?

>>53364076
>>53364150
I dunno, most (not all) people I've seen playing Modern are pretty chill. When both players are firing glass cannons at each other, you expect to lose sometimes.

>>53364196
I get fucking livid when my glass cannon doesn't out-glass cannon someone else's deck.
But those midrange match ups is where solid bonding can be had

>>53364112
I've never seen a woman or trans person top8 at any event ever, and according tumblr that means it actually is extremely sexist.

>>53364020
I play a more traditional green devotion deck and the deck is actually fairly resilient. Turn 3 and 4 kills are far from rare, but against aggro we usually board in feed the clans or tutor up a primetime and courser.

>>53364230
Really? I frequently fist-bump my fellow linear-bros after a match, win or lose, unless there was mana screw or something.

>>53364112
>overtly sexist

Maybe the smash faggots, but one of the best street fighter players is a transwoman and she's very much respected, and NRS games in particular draw a large female playerbase.

>>53364258
All I can really talk about is my own personal experience, which didn't make it look good. It isn't a deck you often see on camera.

>>53364319
You're totally correct, it's not great, but I like green and I like being able to do a little bit of everything, so it's the perfect deck for me.

>>53363655
When baral (goblin electromancer 5-8) was printed to give the deck stupid consistency.

>>53364232
Anon it is an actual factual mathemagically indisputable fact that all woemn and trans are 115% better at magic than all male players combined but mysoginists and shitlords at the LGS level drive them away with rape and oppression so they can never make it to the pro level. And that's why we need more people of color being represented in magic artwork. It makes perfect sense if you're not a homophobe.

>>53364522
As a transsexual, trans-canadian, anteater-kin, demi-sexual 2004 Ford Focus SE, I approve whole-heartedly.

>>53364522
>>53364577
You guys are so funny. No one has done this before

>>53364586
MODS HELP I'M BEING SARCASMRAPED

>>53364586
Were you born without a sense of humor, or did you have it removed? Lighten up.

>>53364609
>>53364636
I never said it was offensive, just making fun of you for copying jokes that were already played out before South Park got to them

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>>53357887
>tfw no deck, need 200 dollarydoos to finish it out

plz

>>53360964
dude I saw a guy playing this exact list at the gamerooms at ACEN this year

>>53364175
you can get a pretty early primal command, loop that with eternal witness and try to keep them off lands for the game, can also kessig pump any creature for like 15 turns 4+ ish

>>53364232
I've only played against one other woman at my locals, but I haven't had anyone I've played against be especially sexist. Closest thing was a guy who stared at my chest most of the game and then got all huffy when he lost, saying "Cranial Plating just wins the game for you". Hard to say if it was sexist or just regular salt.

>>53357887
>tfw 5
>thinking about making it 6
I lack self control please send help

>>53364842
Start building Vintage decks and the court will send you all the help you need.

>>53364777
Was he a control-fag?

>>53364984
It's been a while, so I don't remember for sure, but I think he was playing a RG homebrew. Something with Experiment One, if I'm thinking of the right guy.

>>53365044
Ah. Brewers get super salty when their special snowflake gets run over by your netdeck.

>>53364969
I've seriously given thought to buying a paper vintage deck. I get everything but the p9 in the shopping cart, tell myself I'll proxy them and buy them one buy one, then I slap the shit out of myself and say WHEN THE FUCK ARE YOU EVER GOING TO PLAY VINTAGE? And close the browser window

I've gotten pretty close to going over the ledge a few times.

>>53365125
My lgs actually runs a vintage event once in a blue moon.

>>53365125
Most vintage events allow proxies of the real expensive stuff so I don't think they're required?

>>53357887
You should add a RDW clause in the 1-2 categories.

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>>53357432

Someone help me with a RBW enchantment aura curses deck.

I need a way to put alot of curses on someone really fast. any sweet tech?

>>53366170
Bitterheart witch

>>53366170
I dunno. It's hard because they are (a) auras and (b) don't target creatures, both of which make them difficult to cheat into play.

>>53366323
The problem there is that Bitterheart witch is 5 cmc, so you probably need to cheat that into play too.

>>53366170
Curses basically all suck ass, anon. By design they're slow and they're almost all overcosted. Modern is far too quick for them to do anything, if they even hit the board. If you're serious about building a deck then control is probably the way to go, with esper colours being best. Accursed Witch is okay but again, any deck you make will be agonizingly slow

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>>53366170
Godspeed, anon.

Honestly any deck with handhate and removal has a shot at doing things. A decent angle for your early game (dunno if curses have cmc1-2) could be to run some Spreading Swamps or whatever the hell they're called. It won't work against everyone, but if you run all 8 of them you can effectively cheese some decks early on, plus they're enchantments if you want to maximize enchantment synergy stuff.

>>53366170
Did you mean to post this in the EDH thread? There's no way this will work in Modern.

>>53366633
I don't see $$$$$ competitive in the OP anymore.

>>53366817
There's a difference between not playing "$$$$$ competitive" and conceding while building your deck.

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I windmill slam this fucker turn 3 all the time.

>>53366843
Then you get killed on turn 4 anyway. gg.

>>53363992
Yes, i play u tron and its fun as fuck. Replace the sundering titan for a torrential gearhulk. Also not a fan of EE, chalice is much better in the mainboard

>>53363992
>>53367082
Friends don't let friends play mono blue tron.

>>53367110
U Tron is fun though. At least it's actually different rather than Gx Tron where people act like their deck is some super secret special snowflake despite all being mostly the same.

>>53357432
Currently playing this http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/infinite-combo-norin-sisters/
It isn't T1 by any means but it sure is fun to play and can and does win games.

>>53367457
I still fucking hate losing to Tron though

>>53367110
Correction, friends hate friends that play u tron. It's a bitch to play against

Is the gay madcap experiment/platinum empyrion combo a must-have for blue moon decks? I want to make one with Torrential Gearhulks as finishers, does this sound feasible?

>>53367853
it is not, check this list out friend

http://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=14767&d=288924&f=MO

>>53363948
GGT was stupid with momhug and Amalgams though, no one with a triple digit iq thought it was safe. It just wasn't easy to hate out since optimally you just ignore cage, coflagrate and play 5mana 15/15s and nothing except rip (too slow sometimes) and Leyline (clunky af, eats 4 slots) were enough. Current storm builds cannot beat any deck with sufficient discard and kill spells and basically anything that reads graveyard.

>>53368410

yep, i play storm and all these things are true. the deck is good, but like it's very easy to interact with and it's super bad against thoughtseize decks

>>53368410
>this card is fine to come off the banlist guys dredge isn't doing anything right now
>prints busted cards for dredge
>wow guess we have to ban this again
I'm fairly confident they did this so they wouldn't be arsed with unbans all the time. Well played wotc

>>53363011
Yeah but Elesh Norn is hot as fuck and shes a robot

>>53368523
Elesh Norn is Phyrexian though, and Phyrexians incorporate both machine and flesh together.

Notably, Elesh Norn isn't an artifact creature.

Is BW Tokens better then it seems? Most decks arent playing a lot if any sweepers and Fatal Push and Brutality mean the decks got a lot more removal and game against Aggro decks. Roughest matchup is probably Tron or UW Control.

>>53368566
Im gonna incorporate my flesh in her body if you know what I mean

>>53368577
I think it's one of those issues where BW Tokens isn't so much bad as it's just not as good as BGx.

>people want the storm deck banned even though it's a terrible deck

what's with this meme? the deck is borderline unplayable and easy to hate out

>>53368591
And she'll replace most of your flesh with porcelain. Then probably still not let you fuck her.

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>>53357432
>>53360964
esper contrarians WW@

>>53369038
Its not that people want it banned but knowing WotC it will be. Gifts Ungiven will definitely be banned come next announcement.

>>53369054
My dicks harder then porcelain just thinking about her

>>53369172
Why the goryos vengeance?

>>53369236
>don't like the storm deck
>keep banning cool cards it uses
>keep avoiding banning just banning the storm cards

>>53369265
for meme's sake, and turn 2 obzedaddy/jin

>>53369172
Thinking about making Esper Geist. Geist is always fun especially when you put Steel of the Godhead on it and people have to read it.

>>53364282
You mean a man?

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>have 3 modern decks
>one f it is a flexible shell in which I can make 2 other decks
>due to working hours cant attend FNMs
>can only attend casual saturday events which is basically make best deck under 70$

Fucking end me.

>>53370480
I'm in the same boat, friend. I was really excited to start playing regularly again when work hired several new people and lightened my workload. Three people started last Monday; #1 didn't last two hours, #2 quit on Tuesday, and #3 never showed up Friday morning. So I'm back to 55 hour work weeks and no FNM. The only time I can play is Commander Wednesday night, which is fine and all, but it's not what I really want to play.

Hang in there, bro. I'm determined to play Modern this week, and you should to.

>>53370480
You should sale me your decks :^)

>>53370638
>tfw pseudo intellectuals complain about unemployment when the real problem employers have is finding people who want to actually work

>Remove the $$$$$$$ in the title

>Quality of the thread improves mssively, with people explaining why the shitbrews are bad instead of just going >MUH $$$$$

A pat on the back of whoever created this thread.

>>53364692
Whatever you're building out of twohundred is and will be shit. This hobby isn't for you Anon.

>>53371585
>$$$$$$ competitive

Is Zur not worth it with Fatal Push around? I feel bad taking him out because he's fun but I have to be $$$$$$ competitive according to /tg/.

>>53372048
Is Zur good ever? He dodges some, but not all common removal, and I can't imagine the deck is good. You have a list?

>>53372516
Yeah. His ability is really strong especially since he doesn't even need to deal damage, just attack. He used to dodge bolt, decay, and IoK which were all big before push. And even with push I've had pretty good success with him, never going below 3-1.

>>53371237
Thanks. The $$$$$$$ Competitive thing was too autistic even for me.

>>53372955
Okay, so what kind of enchantments do you grab?

>>53373100
Spreading Seas, D Sphere, Steel of the Godhead, and Thassa are in the MD.

>>53371585
>need 200 dollarydoos to finish it out
>finish it out

Learn to read. For all you know, they've 80% of the deck and just need $200 for the last part.

>>53373391
>80%
>38 items in 1 package
Hmm
Even assuming that includes sideboard he's still missing a little under a third of the main deck so he's only got around 60% built. Depending on what those cards are though it might not be a garbage deck especially if he already bought the Mana base and a few of the expensive cards.

>>53374080
I meant 80% as in 80% of the value of the deck, but yeah, I worded that poorly.

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Gonna try to trade for some U Tron stuff at modern monday later. Wish me luck!

>tfw I have to make casual decks to play with my friends because they wont play modern
>tfw I can brew an all commons and uncommons pile under $10 and still beat the shit out of them
>tfw I didnt ask for such power

>>53357887
>http://www.strawpoll.me/13006237
Update: With a total of 59 votes, 53% of people have 1 or 2 decks, 10% are unfortunates and don't have any, and 12% are rich and have 5+.

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How do I make a good UR Blitz deck?

>>53375134
you can't, probe is banned

but seriously, that way I'd build it build be playsets of kiln fiend, swiftspear, stormchaser mage, thing in the ice, bolt, slip through space, mutagenic growth, temur battlerage, and something like 2 or 3 revelers.

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>>53375044
>tfw 12%'er
Filthy poorfags out of my format REEEEEEE

You shouldn't be allowed to play modern if you don't own at least a play set of Zen & ktk fetches at the bare minimum

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>>53375331
Why do I need your filthy fetchlands when I have a playset of pic related?

>>53375380
Are you telling me all 5+ of your modern decks run opal?
Affinity, lantern, cheerios, tezzerator, ?

>>53375426
Why would you NOT run Power?

>>53375426
You forgot KCI

>>53375443
Because mox opal is trash unless your deck is built around it. but then it's vintage level and should be banned

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>>53375472
Honestly I can't wait for the sheeple to wake up and realize this disgusting card needs a ban

>>53375472
>>53375503
dat meme

Not gonna happen. Artifact decks are going to value town for as long as the format exists.

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>>53375331
>Fetchlands

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>>53375637
Does this not count?

>>53375664
It itself is not a land so technically it doesn't.
But hey, at that point we're just arguing semantics.

>>53375664
Well...
.
.
.
Fuck, you got a point
At least, it's not at least 80 bucks for a playset

>>53375685
I mean, it fetches lands ;)

>>53375757
Shhhhhh

>>53375757
Aren't fetchlands lands that fetch instead of thing that fetches lands?

>>53375472
Is this what's funny? Just saying the same thing over and over again.
Lmao kithkin amirite?! Mox opal is vintage! There isn't even a joke here.

>>53375855

Buy into land fetchers now before word spreads, kids

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>>53369308
I can totally see gifts ungiven being banned. It's a strange effect, and can be abused in a way not intended when it was printed.

>>53376441

No, just ban fucking grapeshot

>ban literally every interesting or good blue card because they enable a degenerate strategy, but don't want to actually ban the strategy just the good cards that support it

By now you should know that storm will continue to live after a gifts ban and the only net change is that an interesting blue card is banned out of the format when it is not overwhelming or degenerate in any sense of the word.

>>53376441
Just ban every card with the storm mechanic and put storm players out of their misery

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>>53376441
What deck would Ruby play?

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>>53376506
Ban 8th and 9th edition to get pic related out of the format while you're at it.

>>53376553
UB Faeries

>>53376553
Infect because neither of them exist

>>53376568
Is this what's funny? just repeating some stale meme over and over again? There's no joke here.

>>53376568
>haha look le storm crow XD

>>53376848
>>53376881
Joke
-----------------
Your head

>>53376965
>told joke is shit
>you must not understand
Wew

>>53377006
Not my fault plebs come here.

>>53376965
>implying that shitty meme is good
>implying you're "irony" is funny
kys my man

>>53377055
>implying you're "irony" is funny
Learn English.

>>53377055

>implying he was actually using that meme

he used it as an exaggerated point not supporting a ban, he wasn't actually trying to meme storm crow. if someone said "ban 8th for blood moon and bridge because it's X" you could say "yeah make sure you ban lorwyn too, kithkin are keeping my sponge tribal down"

But now you've made me explain it because your reading comprehension is shiiiiiiit so you probably won't understand this post anyways

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>>53377077

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I need a judge buster deck.

also, thinking of running a few of these.

>>53377156
>h-he was just exaggerating
Sure thing champ

>>53377077
>Current year
>getting mad at a typo
Sorry gramps, not everyone is posting from a PeeCee some people post from these cool things called Cellular Phones and they tend to make mistakes because of it.

>>53377188
>implyings and kys
>argument
ayy lmao

>>53377252
>posting on 4chan from a cell phone
How does it feel having literally no life?

>>53377279
>posting on 4chan
How does it feel literally having no life?

>>53377252
>i c-can't spell becuause of autocorrect!!

>>53377392
>type your
>gets "corrected" to you're
K bucko

>being this autistic about a typo
wew

>>53377279
I post from phone because I'm not home on my computer because I have a life. Fucking moron

>>53377594
Holy shit. If you had a life, you would be living it when you're not at home / at work, not having an autistic argument on 4chan. Posting here from a phone is the epitome of having no life.

>>53377630
It takes two seconds to post. Consider suicide

>>53377630
>Posting here from a phone is the epitome of having no life.
Yeah no one would ever consider posting while waiting to meet someone, waiting in line or on the subway.

End your life my man it's not like he said he posts while he's out at the bar or something you faggot

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>>53377543
I'm just shootin the piss m8, i really have no qualms regarding phoneposting or typos

>>53357432
>rhonas in tournament over walking burrito
Was stoked to see the proper CoCo meme being repressented, less stoked when the guy biffed, though.

>>53377696
>Yeah no one would ever consider posting while waiting to meet someone, waiting in line or on the subway.
Correct.

>>53377703
>Jacob Baugh ran 1 Rhonas
>Andrew Maine ran 1 Ballista

¡PANIC!

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Wizards moves at a snail's pace, but I'm glad they're going in the right direction regarding FNM promos. The feedback must have been scathing.

>>53377954
Too bad the art is atrocious

>>53375134
Expedite, manamophose, slip through space

>>53377954
I would not touch that fucking FP art with a 2 foot pole.

Like seriously, what the fuck is that shit?

>>53364692
2 delta, 4 bloodstained mire, 2 snapcaster. Rest is edh crap that's 99c a piece

>>53378068
I actually really like it, mostly because it's card art that doesn't detract from a deck's flavor. The art with the shadowborn kicking a dude was kinda ass if your deck had a bunch of pretty fae or something; a guy falling out of a window leaves a lot more to the imagination.
Aside from the blueman group shit going on, a foil topdown view of a guy falling from a height with stainglass shards looks pretty.

Coulda done without blueguy, and made the background have a greater feeling of depths via lightning, although irl the foiling might make the darks darker and the light part of the background more striking and less blending.

>>53378043
At least Rallier art has an Alara knight feeling to it and that's sweet imo

>>53377954
>>53378212
The hand on the left actually looks human, it feels like it was good art then in postproduction they tinted the guy blue, made his fingers longer and added a digit because muh worldbuilding

>>53378175

>being an interactionfag

why would you do that to yourself?

>>53378557
Waiter, this meme is stale

>>53378629
not even a meme

>>53375134
Most of the time I wonder why you wouldn't just play the more tempo oriented lists

>>53377954
I don't use twatter or normiebook but I heard some guys at the LGS say there was a very large game store in the Seattle area where the players refused to take the FNM promos and several hundred signed a petition and mailed them back to work with a letter saying "please dispose of"

Has anyone else heard about that?

>>53379335
About fucking time, if true. The art direction has been shit for years.

>>53375134
a good start imo is
4 swiftspear
4 fiend
4 thing
2 bedlam (personally i understand the power of draw 3, that's vintage shit lads)
4 serum
2 sleight
1 faithless
4 mutagenic
4 battlerage
4 manamorphose
4 bolt
2 vapor snag
2 stubby d
1 apostal blessing
1 gutshot
17 lands

the 17 lands might be a relic from the gprobe days, 18 might be correct

>>53376441
If Gifts eats a ban in Modern then fuck this entire game.

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So I'm a on again off again player who's been in and out every few years for the last 10 years or so. I use to really enjoy playing Extended ages ago and got tired of jumping into Standard every year or so to spend a ton of money, play a few times and then poof into thin air. I really wanna build a nice Modern deck that I can play for at least the next year or two/three. Just for the foreseeable future so that (outside of bans or whatever) I can just show up at my locals and play every few weeks or months.
Blue is my favorite and control is something I've always liked, or just straight aggro. But Blue or White with a good bit of thinking has always been what I liked.
What's a good deck for me in the 500 to 1000$ or so range?
I was thinking black/blue faeries since I have a good bit of the blue side of it already.
It doesn't have to be like T1 or anything, I don't care if I win or whatever, I just wanna go in and have a nice deck that can at least do something and enjoy myself with.
I also enjoy playing with planeswalkers.

>>53379875
UW control

>>53379898
What would be a good list?
I found this on google
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/modern/tier-1-modern/678769-uw-control
I actually have a ton of this, besides the sideboard stuff I think.
This good enough?

>>53380116
That link probably wasn't specific enough, I meant that list from a GP from last year.

>>53380116
Check the links in the OP

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Xth for drake being busted

>>53380291
There is cool deck for him in standard right now.

But I'm not seeing him in modern in any near future tho.

but his art is gorgeus

>>53380291
>busted
Decks that would want him already have grave hate brought in against them

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>cards needed to fix modern

>artifact 2; 1/tap look a the 3 top cards of your library put them back in any order
>instant U; draw 2 cards, put 1 card from your hand on top of your library
>instant U; counter target spell with converted mana cost 3 or less

>>53380649
yeah, how about turning modern in a dumbed down version of legacy?

inb4
>but...but...modern is already the dumbed down version of legacy

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>>53380649
???

>>53380739
>>53380739

Those are fixed versions of broken cards and could make control in Modern viable, nothing wrong with it.

And of course finally a good Counterspell.

>>53380772
that counterspell is fucking busted though, that's way too good. nice bait dude

>>53380772
>that counterspell
>not broken
you are full of shit my friend...
also, deck manipulator like brainstorm or ponder are banned from modern by long time...

>>53380829
Brainstorm was never legal kiddo

>>53380855
yeah, maybe you should learn to read. I was talking about the kind of card, not specifically of brainstorm.

>>53380911
there was never anything like brainstorm that was ever legal so it's pointless to use it as an example. Nice try though senpai

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>>53380935
heheheh

>>53381020
>ever legal

>>53363749
>>53369038
>>53369236
>>53376441
>>53376504
>>53376506
Why does everyone want to turn modern into just some kind of standard masters format? Powerful cards in the format keep it interesting. T0 is where a deck should receive a ban, and apart from that you should let the meta adjust. Eye of Ugin was the only worth while ban in the past 5 years.

>>53377201
>I need a judge buster deck.
anything with processor effects and instant-speed flickering.

>>53381039
yeah, on the opposite of Brainstorm, Jace should be legal in modern but it was obviously too strong so they banned it from the very begin...
so tell me, are you really this autistic to getting triggered by someone that says "banned from long time" in place of "banned from the begin"?

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>>53375331
i sold all that shit though.

>fetchlands
fuck you, pay me.

>>53381125
It's a big difference my non-English speaking friend. Banned implies that they observed it within the format, whereas from the beginning implies they banned it for arbitrary reasons (SfM, Jace, Bitterblossom, AV, Valakut, SotM) The effect was never legal in modern in the first place, so using it your example is strictly incorrect in the discussion of things that are "banned for a long time"

>are you really this autistic as to getting triggered
I'm not even mad or "triggered" you dumb faggot just because you used an incorrect and frankly retarded example about how deck manipulation is gone from modern doesn't make me autistic so fuck off. If you want to talk about deck manipulation and how it's banned talk about how ponder and preordain are banned not about a card that was never legal and has no comparable alternatives that were ever in the format.

>>53381058
Most of the replies you quoted were not serious. Thanks for being so smart though

>>53381342
>banned =/= never legal
I'm sorry my illitterate "english" (american, I assume) speaker but you can't arbitrarily choose what was "banned" and "never legal". Cards that was never get printed or reprinted from the 8th edition are "never legal", Jace instead is banned...whether you like it or not.
Is Jace banned from modern? yes
by a long time? yes, specifically from the very begin.
Also with that "from a long time" I was referring to Ponder too, which was legal for a little in modern...

> If you want to talk about deck manipulation and how it's banned talk about how ponder and preordain
but I've talk about ponder...>>53380829

>>53357432
>Playing?
Grishoalbrand forever
>Brewing?
Nothin'
>Hating?
Nothin'

Why hasn't anyone made a free virtual version of MTG like people do with Yu-Gi-Oh? Is it brand worship? Or are WotC really on that kind of shit?

>>53379875
Why is he wearing a watch

>>53381660
xmage

>>53381590
Out, Grishoalbrand player, out
We do not want you in our thread

>>53381660
There's like 3 of those you fucking dunce

>>53381712
>.de
>this file can harm your computer
>community is small as fuck
Sounds legit.

>>53381582
>but you can't arbitrarily choose what was "banned" and "never legal"
I'm not you absolute retard and I never said anything close to that. Jace was banned happened when Modern came to be as a format, meaning he was never legal for any amount of time in the format. Banned for a long time would mean that while it is banned, it was legal at some point in time (ponder, preordain etc).

>Cards that was never get printed or reprinted from the 8th edition are "never legal"
I'm assuming you mean cards that weren't reprinted in 8th edition or forward Pajeet. But yes, you are correct.

>Jace instead is banned...whether you like it or not.
Jace was banned from the beginning though, meaning he WAS NEVER LEGAL IN THE FORMAT TO BEGIN WITH.

>Also with that "from a long time" I was referring to Ponder too, which was legal for a little in modern...
and this whole argument was due to the fact that you incorrectly used brainstorm in that example. I never once said you were wrong regarding ponder.

>but I've talk about ponder...
See the above

>tfw your brew loses to skred

does that mean it's time to put it down?

>>53381972
>Banned for a long time would mean that while it is banned, it was legal at some point in time (ponder, preordain etc).

Nope. False. Bad semantics, you're wrong, he's right.

>>53380829
>you are full of shit my friend...
Spell snare is basically a WAY shittier version of that card and it sees a fair amount of play, that card is actually ridiculous

>>53382046
What's your brew?
Skred is legit, don't be a fucker

Should I start playing storm? I have most of the pieces and play mostly ad nauseam.

>>53381058
Wasn't DRS in the last 5 years? It deserved it.
Or am I just getting old?

>>53382118
How do you do with Ad Nauseam? How is your local meta?

>>53382136
Constantly 3-1 or 4-0 with it and top 4 in two local invitational tournaments. Haven't been to my meta for a bit, but it had a lot of Jund and Grixis Control decks the last time I went.

>>53363808
Threats should literally be the least important part of magic, only retards enjoy slamming cards on a table. Magic is only fun when both decks are 90% devoted to preventing each other from winning.

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>>53378930
because shock and awe, I want to win on turn 3 by hitting you for 23 doubled with trample

>>53379471
list im running so far, might swap a couple of the unblockables for revelers, still on the fence about thing in the ice

>>53382166
You're probably better off sticking with Ad Nauseam if they have creature-centric control

I don't think storm is as great as people think it is in comparison to Ad Nauseam...just more fun

I see a lot of screenshots on here, where do you guys usually play magic online? On the official thing or one of the free versions?

>>53382193
I don't have friends who play magic and I'm really anxious about meeting a new playgroup so I just play Pauper on mtgo sometimes and lurk these threads wishing I had friends

>>53380649
>instant {phyrexianU}; counter target creature, artifact, or planeswalker spell

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Would a card like this be balanced for modern? Would any deck want to use it?

>>53382302
Fucking make obligatory shitty custom card thread for garbage like this. And no, it's not balanced. Pretty fucking far from it.

>>53382322
I don't see anything wrong with it though. It allows for deck thinning at the cost of placing a lot of really bad cards into your deck. It might be too weak however; maybe it should have higher stats.

>>53382302

>would a card like this

Are you literally fucking back? holy shit

>>53382065
The whole argument was about a brainstorm effect ever being legal in modern and he tried to use Jace as an example of that even though Jace was never legal at any point in the format's history, so no he isn't right you stupid faggot.

>>53381590
hi griselbro
Have you ever thought about what a no banned list build would look like? I've tried goldfishing with ponders and preordains and i didn't feel like it became significantly faster or more consistent, which kind of bummed me out because that leads me to think the only reason this deck isn't plain outclassed by other combo is that their pieces or enablers have been banned and in a fully open modern format, the deck wouldn't be that powerful

>>53382322
>>53382368
can you not respond to custom card bait? thanks

>>53382177
you've got way too many creatures friendo

>>53382302
>5 mana win the game
Kys custom card fag

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What do you think of him?

>>53381928
>this file can harm your computer
>not realizing that refers to the fact that it's an executable file

>>53380649
>what if I made spell snare better?
What if you're retarded?

>>53382302
>shitty custom card
>hearthstone reference
>bad hearthstone reference

0/10

>>53381928
your argument against it is that it's a free program on the internet after asking for a free program on the internet. come play cockatrice.

>>53382640
He is a hipster and a cuck, but he has a good understanding of card sleeves.

>>53382821
>cuckatrice
Xmage is and always will be the best form of pirate magic

I just bought storm, how long do I have to play it before some critical piece gets banned?

>>53382874
Until the next B&R

They ALWAYS ban storm

>>53382193
Xmage, cockatrice, mgo are the options. Two are made by ??swedes?? and the other by jews.

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>>53382511
I know, Im having a hard time trying to get the special blend, will probably do 18L-16C-26S
with a couple mamamorphose to stack spells/draws

>>53382897
i doubt it, the storm deck is worse than ad nauseum. also, the storm deck is super easy to disrupt.

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>>53382640
Infinitely better than Des, but that's a low fucking hurdle.

>>53383201

des is the only human being who i would fucking brutally murder

>>53383213
Clicking on one of his Modern videos is guaranteed cringe. It's like watching a train wreck.

>>53382640
The only prominent face of Magic who dared to speak out against the cost of the game.

I don't care if he's a douchey-sounding faggot, he's the only guy on the customer's side. And I don't even feel like he's a bad person. I get the vibe that he's a genuinely pleasant person even if his persona in his videos is fucking unbearable.

I'm fucking sad at the fact that he's the only public voice talking about the real issues in the game. Everyone is fucking bought and owned by Wizards and he might be too except he has the balls to speak truth.

>>53383201
Is that him? I pictured that nasally autist to be much worse.

>>53383239
>ban collected company
>ban lantern because it hurts my feelings
>ban every good card
He has to be trolling

>>53383267
The way he talks about common decks, it's obvious that he doesn't even know how they work (or is just pretending to be retarded).

>>53383267
Yes, that's him. He's a goofy sounding motherfucker.

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This actually playable in U/R blitz or should i just stop trying?

>>53361274
It's so fucking retarded to do this. The chances for getting into shit for stealing way outclass any kind of payoff you would get from opening boosters in hope of something valuable. Now that I think of it, you should totally do it.

>>53383601
Just stop.

The problem with Bedlam Reveler is that by the time you can put it down all you want to do is spike them for 3-7 more damage. Granted Reveler can do that for you by drawing into more gas and makes your shitty Distortion Strike cards live but by the time you get to casting it like with Serpent you just wish you had a plain burn spell. Like any burn spell.

You're better off playing a shitty reach card like Char or Flames of the Blood Hand.

Should I build living end?

>>53383793
i'd rather just play dredge desu, i think it's the better graveyard based combo deck

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>>53374383
Have a colored-in Emrakul for good luck, anon.

>>53383829
Oh yes Im aware Dredge is way better but theres something appealing about destroying your opponents lands and bringing back an army of 4/4s. My question I guess is whether I could take Living End to FNM and have a chance at winning.

>>53383829
Dredge is better I concede.

But Living End is more fun. Sometimes you just kill all their lands and/or just hardcast your big stupid shit to kill them. The sideboard is a pile of fucking 15th pick draft garbage and it wins you games.

Sure, I know the competitive Living End decks are straying from the Land Death package - well fuck them. You're not playing Living End to be efficient, you're playing Living End to win in style.

Always play Living End if you want to have fun. It also is a more fun mirror.

>>53382177
Try looking up Elemental Shotgun, it might show you an alternate way to take the deck.

>>53384123
Elemental shotgun was held together by probe, it's not /needed/ in every hand, but having 4 of them was needed for the deck

>>53384466
>>53384466
>>53384466

new thread and check em

>>53384474
Next time put mtg in the title, I like to be able to just go to /tg/mtg and see all the mtg threads

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>>53384535

>>53382821
>>53382850
>Xmage is and always will be the best form of pirate magic

This. Xmage has full and accurate rules enforcement, many people make small mistakes or misinterpretations that would be allowed to occur on cockatrice without anyone being the wiser. Whereas on xmage you can be assured this is how it's supposed to work as well as learn your deck's options.