/btg/ - BattleTech General

>>53322445
Nuke the frails space war now!

Praise Blake

I need Albatross variants.

Anyone have some to share? CampaignAnon?

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>>53322338
It means the Grim Reaper.

You know, to keep up with Daishi (not really 'big death' but that was the intention of the authors) and such.

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>>53322445
Whoever does the next thread, update this please: -


/btg/'s own image board: - (2017-05-18 - Still getting worked on & now has 11760 pics!)
http://bgb.booru.org/index.php

More goodies! (Rare manuals, hex packs, TROs, discord server, etc.) Last updated 2017-05-15!
http://pastebin.com/uFwvhVhE
Also has anybody updated the merc unit we started a couple threads ago?

Also fuck Lyrans. I used to be one....

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Anyone have the stats to that Clanbuster King Crab from the last thread?

>>53322869
It's just the KGC-001. Twin GRs, twin SSRM-2, an LRM-15, and an LPL.
...It's also a 3/5 with 17t of armor.

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>>53323235
Thank you, but...
13 SHS
What?

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>>53323282
Does it really >need< more? I mean, I'd pull the extra ton of @Streak-2 for LRM ammo, but with that loadout doubles are kind of pointless.

>>53323355
Pardon my HS-OCD, but couldn't the pilot use the LPL, gausses and then the LRM while moving without heat problems if it had 10 DHS?
HS-OCD is a hell of a drug.

>>53323441
Having run a KGC-001 in an extended campaign, you never really need the heat. You're ultimately a gauss boat that occasionally fires some LRMs and 13 SHS is plenty for that. If you're using the LPL, something's gone terribly wrong and you're probably about to die (the mech has 4 bombs in it, so a breach of the armor is basically game over).

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Because I fear no ammo crits, that's why?

OK, this is goddammed stupid. I need to print out a TW-compliant Motorized ballistic rifle infantry record sheet, I can't find which record sheet book/pdf it's in, and sarna doesn't list a record sheet source.

Where the hell is the damn thing? Please?

>>53324723
Assuming you mean just a bog standard generic platoon, you have to make one yourself via the blanks in TM. I assume the idea was that basic infantry platoons are so simplistic that it's easy to make one off the infantry stats given in TW. Unfortunately, I don't think those damage stats in TW have yet to be updated to match the alterations caused by TM 3.0's changes to various infantry weapons.

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bampu

>>53323355
Unless you're a Kurita I feel like there's no reason to not add DHS to anything you can.

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>>53328964
why can't I upload images for 3 days straight, fuck you, moot

>>53328978
Moot's gone anon, it's a nip telling you off now.

>>53328978
who's moot?

>>53329272
>>53329340
Chink is just a puppet. Wake up, sheeple.

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>>53329360
This. Anyone with half a brain knows who's really pulling the strings.

>>53328978
I stepped on that PERSON with a Quickdraw. He's a stain now.

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>>53322841

>>53322841
Nope, I am busy as fuck
Shouldn't had take the front of the project, Someone else should manage the whole thing

>>53329991
That's the thing. Depending on who takes it on, it could end up drastically different.

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>>53327024
>Unless you're a Kurita I feel like there's no reason to not add DHS to anything you can.
eh, in 3052 there's no real reason to freak out about it though. The theoretical reason given in the fluff is that the engines they had on hand were all pre-League Hegemony vintage shit without DHS compatibility. They could still have made new engines later on, but really the ClanBusters were all supposed to be "aaaaaaahhhhhh fuckfuckfuck what can we do with 300XL engines and 3053 tech". Once they relax enough to start making new designs, they come out with the -008 and 008R to fill its role.

>>53331134
Psst... the guy in the brown Stinger dies... it's racism.

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>>53331174
Dude, brown Valks are the same thing as red shirts in Star Trek. Non Flight-leads use teh brown scheme, trainers are orange, flight leads get the fancy shit.

>>53331222

But they made them brown because racism, is the point.

That's one of the reasons why liking giant robots makes you a racist. If you like giant robots, you're OK with Macross by definition,
and if you're OK with Macross you're OK with the inherent racism of "brown" being a symbol for "less important and expendable".

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>>53331222
I watched both the abomination that was Robotech to learn where the original BT mech art came from, and the original Macross. It was a joke.

>>53331174
>>53331222
>>53331246
>>53331258

Guys, guys. Macross is no more objectionable to any reasonable observer than the social policies of the Magistracy of Canopus.

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>>53331314
Hey... wait... hey... HEY!?

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>>53331246
Of course, I forgot the JSDF uses brown ground-combat equipment because they hate brown people. Also that doesn't explain why Spartans are green and all the other expendable Destroids are brown..

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>>53331258
This.
It still boggles my mind that there are people who got into Battletech because they wanted Robotech: the Board Game.

Macross, maybe, but Robotech was so much nails-on-chalkboard voice acting and recycled 8fps animation.

Dougram was another story altogether. I legitimately enjoyed that one and am thankful to the guy who decided to fansub the whole series.

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>>53331975
All of us were 12 once. Plus it made discovering Macross (via 3g Canadain fansubs in my case..) all the sweeter when it arrived.

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>>53331975
>Robotech was so much nails-on-chalkboard voice acting

Did Tony Oliver *ever* go through puberty?

>>53331975
Absolutely 100% in agreement. If it weren't for the mech art, I could do without the entire thing. Everything in that original series had problems minus a few well animated small parts.

And the Waltrip brothers did the comics for the Carl Macek turd sequel which begin awful and became fecal.

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>>53331975
>This.
>It still boggles my mind that there are people who got into Battletech because they wanted Robotech: the Board Game.

It's not like there were a ton of alternative giant robot games in the 1980s.

I won't lie, my uncle got me my 2e boxed set for Christmas in `86 specifically because I'd asked him to look and see if there was any Robotech gaming stuff out there.

I was 6. Robotech was goddamn awesome to a 6-year old.

>>53332322
I was more concerned with the idol singing.
If they found someone who could sing to voice act, it would have been more tolerable.
They found someone who could do neither.
Did they pay them in food stamps?

For that matter, I've always hated singing in movies and cartoons, from as early as I can remember. I felt like it got in the way of progressing the story. I remember fast-forwarding VHS cassettes of the little mermaid when I was 3.

So much wasted plot on Lynn Minmei and her bullshit singing.

>>53331975
I never liked Robotech, and while I grew up when Gundam Wing was becoming huge in the US, BattleTech made more sense than the former two because War is man's oldest profession.

>>53332021
After Dinotopia, TROs were my bedtime story of choice.

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>>53332670
>For that matter, I've always hated singing in movies and cartoons, from as early as I can remember. I felt like it got in the way of progressing the story. I remember fast-forwarding VHS cassettes of the little mermaid when I was 3.

Do you have the other half of this amulet?
When I was younger, it would piss me off to no end when they would obviously be bringing in some pathetic talent they wanted to sell as the new hit singer or whatever. IIRC, even in crap sitcoms and dramas there would be scenes where the plot would grind to a damn halt, and the characters would sit at a cafe or night club listening to generic-new-singer #3982749283 that wasn't going to make it big. I hate musicals.

>>53332668
Oddly being older than you, I was influenced by the Transformers. When they did that painted character art on the boxes and such, it was such an intricate departure to what generic crap all robots looked like to me as a kid, that when I saw the detail put into them, and then a few years later saw the back of the 2nd edition mechs I knew something was different. It was like somebody cared to make a product that had a level of detail and depth I never saw before. I guess as a kid I could just sense when something was a poorly put together pile of excrement and I just wanted to see some effort.

Would there be a chance at all of someone stumbling across a Stag or Stag II in the 31st century?

the best thing to come out of robotech was honestly palladium's RPG
it didn't have a whole lot to do with the show but it was a fun setting

>>53332856
No. The designs were developed by Clan Wolverine and in the Homeworlds, and while they were used until 2870, the Clans would probably not have any examples left after 3060, I guess.

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>>53332856
>Would there be a chance at all of someone stumbling across a Stag or Stag II in the 31st century?
Yeah, but then the Blakies will kill you.

>>53333326
What mechs are those? What's going on there exactly?

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>>53332711
>War is man's oldest profession.

I was told that it never changes.

>>53332768
>Do you have the other half of this amulet?

Why? You planning to unite the Magic Root and end Sawboss's reign of terror once and for all?

>>53333513
Those are Wolverine mechs, as in mechs made exclusively by that Clan

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>>53333513
>What mechs are those? What's going on there exactly?
It's the cover of ISP 3: Interstellar Expeditions, illustrating the opening story. A group of mercs carrying on the legacy of Uncle Chandy and the Devil's Brigade have just found a Mercury II and a Pulverizer - 'Mechs largely-exclusive to the Wolverines. In Clan Wolverine/Minnesota Tribe colors. They're about to be killed by Blakists with orbital bombardment thanks to a traitor who infiltrated the unit. There's more details in ISP III. It's in the OP, but it's actually one of the handful of modern BT books that I strongly suggest you pick up for actual money.

One of the few actual possible connections between the Not-Named and the Blakists was the Blakies (specifically the Frail factions on Earth) using Pulverizers in the Jihad. Given that the design is post-Klondike and NOT in the databases Old ComStar got from the Clans...

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>>53334264
>used actual too many times again
I have shamed the ancestors and I apologize for my shitty writing. I submit more pictures in atonement.

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>>53334281
More atonement. Seriously, though, ISP 3 is some of the best writing out of Catalyst in the last ten years and it has a bunch of cool shit inside. Most of that's hard to use with a conventional game of BT but it's still fucking cool.

Does megamek support quadvees yet? Because if so I need to change my bid for a game.

>>53334844
Not really, no. I don't think MM supports the transformation yet.

>>53322445
Hey OP maybe want to switch that Battletech videogame link to he new one where they show off the Beta fom last week ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt6FatHHnzI

>>53335369
Damn, I'm usually an IS player who got strong armed into a zell match. I was hoping to get a leg up by changing my bid for mech star to a vehicle star. Looks like I'll have to smash his face in the usual way.

>>53335977

Why not go full CHH anyways and use Eponas and other HH vees?

>>53336078
I still might, but the guy I'm playing follows zell religiously, so he'll just shit over vees. Quadvees have the excuse of also being mechs which would allow me to abuse zell for all its worth. As it is I'm still going to break zell. I'm just going to have to be smarter about it.

>>53333721
Oh hell, I remember that as a kid! I downloaded all the eps a few years back and found out there wasn't any real ending. Damn good opening. And hell yeah I'm bring together the magic root!

>>53335840
If I'm able to do the next thread before someone jumps in, I'll take care of this. Someone else has some other updates as well that needs to happen.

>>53336169

Two Vees to a point, anon. They can combine fire on a 'Mech without breaking Zell.

>>53336376
Yes, It's something I'm considering it, the problem is that zell doesn't protect vees and my opponent is a life long clan player. I bid heavier than him so I'll probably rush him and forgo Batchall then double up with some Hunchie 2C's and take out his heavy armor. I have insanely good luck with UAC's and he bid no assaults.

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How common are the Hunchie IICs and do they survive into the dark age?

>>53334264

I didn't think there were any Pulverizers actually fielded, just a single use of one in the diorama one year? Its not like the ISP/Jihad Secrets says "And the WoB's 39th Division was seen with their rare mech."

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Wait, which way round is a Cicada? I presumed the some went at the front.

I've got two sets of the Intro Box mechs, unfortunately from before the move to better plastic a couple of years ago.

I'm going to eventually paint one set in the individual colours that come in the Universe book, and the other set maybe all as one faction or as 3 or 4, depending.

Pointy end in the front, with the fin end of the arm facing rear. Neither of those are Cicadas.

>>53322445
Is the link in the copypasta the most recent against the bots instructions?

>>53339142
Correct, I haven't updated it recently. I planned on doing so last weekend, but my computer went apeshit last Thursday, and I reinstalled windows only this Thursday, hoping I'd get it back to rights. Is there anything you want me to go over specifically?

>>53339175
Thanks. I was just checking that their hadn't been updates. Not meaning to prod you. Thyanks for the work you do.

>>53339295
No it's fine, I am actually building a changelog based on the feedback I've gotten, I just don't want to completely overhaul Part 3 into "Playing Your Contracts" without checking to see what people are having issues with.

Also, I'm waiting on the moratorium for the BMM to end so I can add some stuff for variants. I do sort of plan to release my custom refit kits and their quirks eventually.

Say Clan Blood Spirit didn't interfere in the Burrock absorption.

They'd have been like 10-11 galaxies strong, right?

How might things have gone differently for them in later years?

If you were the khans of the Blood Spirits what would you have done differently in the 3050s?

>>53329991
I've been tagging like a motherfucker the past few days, and I'll probably continue to do so because I have little else better to do.

I would offer to take it off your hands but I'm not confident in my ability to maintain it any better.

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>>53339474
Basically quit being such a pack of whinging, oathbreaking cunts and focus on our actual tactical objectives. And I'm saying that as a long-time Spirit player. There's a reason none of us were particularly surprised with the way the clan went out in the Reavings, lemme put it that way.

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>>53340345
Checked the booru. I think I know which one is you. Great work! Next mission, you get to pilot the Mad Cat with the bling on it and the external speakers.

>>53334325
To be fair, ISP is the best product line BT ever had.

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>>53342654
You know, I think what they're trying to do with the TtS "books" is put out a new ISP in fragments. Only instead of selling a good one for fifty they're selling a hundredth of a shitty one for a fiver, then wondering why they don't get money at the same ratio...

It's almost like gamers have some kind of standards.

>>53343274
No conspiracy theories, not ISP.

>>53339474
More importantly, they had more surviving WarShips, which would be important for when they pack their bags and get the fuck out of clan space, which is literally their only hope for long term survival
If I was khan, I'd be preparing to make a break for it, possibly also a side plan to grab as many of the remaining caches of gear on my way out

>>53344334
>More importantly, they had more surviving WarShips, which would be important for when they pack their bags and get the fuck out of clan space, which is literally their only hope for long term survival
>If I was khan, I'd be preparing to make a break for it, possibly also a side plan to grab as many of the remaining caches of gear on my way out
To be fair, that is in fact what they were doing in the seventies. They just ran for Colleen instead of the Sphere. Well, most of them anyway; at least some of them made it out with the Jaguar, Snake, and Dark Caste survivors to join the Green Ghosts. I agree though, I would have started running in the fifties and gunned for the gap between the OA and Taurians. Cut a deal with the locals to avoid pissing off the Feddies and hold on tight. Use the Ravens as cover and give back some of our ships as transport costs instead of trying to bargain them for more weapons in the Homeworlds. Although given that that's apparently one of the hotbeds of Weird Shit Going Down in ISP, that plan probably wouldn't have lasted long.

>>53344496
Plus buying the OA and TC off into leaving you alone would be extremely easy, and if you didn't raid the suns, they probably wouldn't care much either

>>53337765
They don't survive, period. They're the Clan equivalent of suicide bombers. Since there's still Clanners who lived too long, I'm sure they still build them.

>>53345230
Is there anything equivalent in the future?

>>53345230
What is with Clanners and age anyway?

>>53344496
>>53344638
>conquer Tortuga worlds
>form the Blood Dominions

Write it.

>>53345996
Saw Logan's Run one too many times. The idea of a computer running their lives turns them on in ways too horrible to even animate.

So, related question:
What mechs exactly were the spirits building in the late 50s?

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>>53347436
Information on home clan manufacturing is really spotty. Only things we know for sure for the Blood Spirits are the Blood Kite and Stooping Hawk, with the Crimson Langur added in the 3060s.

If we go by their RATs from Historical: Revival Placement Trails, set in 3048, they make heavy use of the Adder, Kit Fox, Battle Cobra, Nova, Storm Crow, Crossbow, and Kingfisher, all of which are old enough that it would be reasonable the Spirits could be manufacturing them on York. The Storm Crow is notable for it's TRO3050U Manufacturer entry just being 'various' on account it's so common among the clans.

They may have some manufacturing of second line machines, but we have no information to go on there. They are known for using old SLDF surplus gear, so it's possible most or all of their second line machines are refitted (or base model) machines pulled from Star League in Exile caches. Not counting their many Blood Kites, of course.

It's worth noting that as a clan they prefer equipment that is cheap and easy to manufacture and maintain, so they favor 'mechs that don't have XL engines, Endo Steel, fancy electronics like targeting computers and Artemis IV, and weapon preferences tend towards basic missile launchers and lasers. Most of the 'mechs from the RAT I mentioned above meet some or all of those criteria.

>>53334325
>ISP 3 is some of the best writing out of Catalyst in the last ten years
They just sort of said fuck it let's just write some sci-fi and not even worry about fitting mechs in... and it was glorious.

>>53345996
Nicky the nonce didn't want any Christmas cake in his magical realm

>>53347702
Pretty cool.

I really liked the TRO 3067 art of the Blood Kite and for a long while wanted to start a Blood Spirit force because of it.

Later I went on to find out that the mini was based on art from sourcebooks that hit every single branch out of the ugly tree, even compared to retro BT standards.

>>53322445
The Lyrans are the sole Inner Sphere faction that I completely lack any affection for. Every other House has at least something that I like.

>>53348039
Yeah, been forlornly hoping for a new version of the mini myself. Occasionally poke at the idea of kitbashing something nicer than the official version, but there's not a lot to work with. If Sketchanon's version ever gets made, I'll be picking up a few.

>>53342654
>>53343274
A stellar series. They made me interested in the WoB, which is something a dozen prior books couldn't accomplish.

>>53348090
You don't like armies of heavy mechs charging down the field with no regard for strategy?

>>53347702
I like your take on the Kite better than Plog's, even though I do initially like Plog's weird machine. The arms are better, the cockpit, pretty much everything. I do think the armor on the legs of Plog's machine is neater, but I like this very much. Good work.

I found a more recent video for the HBS game if somebody wants to put it in future OPs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt6FatHHnzI

Also, it looks like larger ACs fire more shells rather than bigger shells. I'm not sure how I feel about that

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>>53348600
I also liked the original art to a degree, but the mini that came out of it really kills interest. Seriously, IWM gets a lot of shit around here for the quality of it's minis, but that one earns it.

That said, not technically 'my' take on the Kite, but the anon who has been recently favoring us with with some very nice redraws.

>>53348633
A previous anon in the thread got this. If I am able to, I'm ready to add that and what that other anon wanted changed in the OP. Lots of new things!

>>53348653
Ah, I see. This charger look a little Crusader-y in the chest area for me. I don't know why. It looks like it could be a sergeant in the army or something.

>>53348633
Well, that's always been how they canonically work.

Well, either/or actually. An AC/20 can be a lot of little shells or one big shell, depending on the
particular model.

>>53348299
Not him but it got boring fast.

>>53347436
>So, related question:
>What mechs exactly were the spirits building in the late 50s?
Building? We don't know. There are a number of second-liners that talk about being commonly-used by the Spirits, and they pick up quite a few more later, but the Invasion-era fluff for the Omnis kinda sidesteps entirely around the Homeworlders for some reason.

>Known building
Hellbringer ("Every clan has facilities building..")
Stooping Hawk
Blood Kite
Possibly the Galahad and Kit Fox.

Everything else? I haven't found any data in WoR or in Crusader Clans. Still poking around, but I'm not really getting anything else in the 3050s

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>>53348678
Funny you should mention Crusaders.

>>53348682
Huh, I kind of assumed it was always fuckhuge shells and the UAC and RAC were the spray and pray guns (but then my mental image of ACs usually defaults to hunchback and king crab)

>>53348730
Except for the head antenna (gun from the Macross Valkyrie thing, OCD! OCD!) being off center, that's a damn good rendering.

We have that guy we call pencil_bro on the booru. What would we call this anon? Lineart-bro? I'd like to know for tagging purposes when I get a chance to do more work in the coming days.

>>53348101
I'd been hoping to fan-fund a resculpt of it, but when the results of the War of Reaving came out, there wasn't much point.

The spirits survived the reaving, but died off not long after. I don't think any of the clans I could say I liked survived.

Only my childhood favorite of the Falcons survived, and only because they were an invading clan.

Vipers, Dead
Hellions, Dead
Blood Spirits, Dead
Scorpions, Might as well be dead since they fused with periphery dirtfarmers...

>>53348693
>>53348299
I don't have a problem with factions with tactical/stategic shortcomings, but, while other factions have philosophical ("honor") reasons for their flaws, the Lyran's flaw seems just to be that their generals are kinda stupid and headstrong.

>>53348811
I assume the offset gun/antenna is a deliberate shift from the source, to differentiate from a purely Macross design.

I believe he has avoided claiming a specific name. Sketchanon is the name that comes to mind when I see his work, but that's just me.

>>53348888
>quads
I miss them too, but more as a fan of good rivalries. I'm partial to the Adders myself (boring snake fiat comments aside) and the Adder-Spirit quarrel was great. I was hoping the spirits would stick around, just for that, generations of snakes testing themselves against fanatical Blood Spirit warriors, opponents good enough that victory was by no means assured. Instead we got the 'just say no to guerilla tactics' campaign ending in ortillery.

That said, Battletech is kind of a historical wargame, and any conflict that was worth playing once is worth playing again. When they were doing the fan-funding votes on the OF, I made sure the Kite was on the list every time.

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>>53349072
>I believe he has avoided claiming a specific name.

This I can't figure out. I understand humility and all, but that is some serious talent! It's not like somebody's gonna out him in real life based on a handle on some Burmese underwater basket-weaving message board and send pizzas to his door night and day!

>>53349217
Hell, I'd send him pizzas, I'd just pay for them first

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>>53349072
>>53349217
He said "the nameless drawfag" was fine earlier.

If I had to guess, he's associated/negotiating with another company, or still teaching himself and uncomfortable with the inevitable commission attempts and other crap that coming out of the drawfag closet entails.

..In other news, I found something at the local used-book store today.

>>53349876
>In other news, I found something at the local used-book store today.

Emperor's Teeth! An actual *hardcopy* of the Lost Issues?!? I *swear* I had one years ago, but I haven't ever been able to find it. All I have left is the lame digital copy.

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>>53350181
Indeed. I'm curled up with it and a frosty bev right now, watching old ladies make mincemeat pie on the TV and feeling nostalgic for storyline shit that was happening while I was in fourth grade.

I think pic related is going to be my next mercenary unit's mascot.

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>>53345996
They believe warriors past their mid-thirties are past their prime. Unless bloodnamed, but even then they have a limit*.

Natasha Kerensky was an exception in Clan Wolf, and seen as an aberration in other clans.

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>>53350891
More specifically, the Clan brew Trueborn Warriors in 'generations' of five years, and each generation is bred, conditioned and trained to be genetically, physically, mentally, and morally superior to the preceding generation(s). Warriors test into the actual Warrior Caste at twenty, and if they haven't achieved a Bloodname by age thirty (two generations in combat), they've proven themselves unworthy of their status and should make way for newer, superior stock.

Which is retarded and insane, since when all other things are equal an experienced thirty-year-old fighter will curbstomp an energetic twenty-year-old rookie virtually every time, but that's the Clans for you.

>>53353079
Don't they have any form of war academy?

>>53353639
That would effectively be the basis of their entire education.

>>53353936
This. Jade Falcon trilogy even mentioned gunpla as one of the few acceptable uses of recreational time.

>>53345708
They still build Hunchback IIcs in the Dark Age, according to the MUL (I know, just one half step up from Sarna, but anyway).

The whole idea of the Hunchback IIc always struck me as being epically retarded by fluff, anyway. "Here's a society with limited resources who believe in recycling everything possible, let's have 'em build a battlemech designed to be destroyed in a single battle!"

>>53354343
I always wondered if it would be just better to make one with two LPLs, an ERPPC with extra DHSs, and maybe some armor so it doesn't die in a couple of turns. That would help so much more, but whatever. This is the same universe that made the original Charger so whatever.

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Why aren't my Hunchback IIc shells looking like this?

>>53337765

I'm pretty sure some are puttering around still in the inner sphere as mixtech frankenstein rebuilds. Strip one UAC/20, add whatever you damn well please after maxing out the armor.

>>53348633
>>53348682

Yeah the devs says they went with the brrrrrrrrt because one of the people they talked to was a big fan of the A-10, but they're planning on having a variety of models (single shot and burst fire).

Personally I like my AC/20 as big single shot guns.

>>53356324
I'll take 'brrrt' over the soft slow vickers that Hollywood thinks all automatic weapons sound like.

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>>53330199
>>53340345

since something is better than nothing, I had a idea. I will open a "job application"-like form and then we select select the most interesting entries. This way everyone can do something and the project doesn't need my total attention to go forward. Let's start now.

The merc unit is composed of 12 mechs (for now). There are no hard rules on which mechs are valid or not (even custom or extinct mechs are okay, just give us an excellent excuse for having them). Be creative, remember /btg/ will choose who's in and who's out.

Fill the form at:
goo. (not spam) gl/ (not spam) forms/ (not spam) DFxOqhxLSwBiZtDn1

Please, previous anons that already suggested pilots, can you enter them again?

>>53357176

What about those of us who submitted lance ideas?

And can you post what you have so far so we know if we're duplicating shit?

>>53357176
what about the techs I wrote up that go with the mechwarriors?
also the thing I put together was a full lance with support personnel, and really should be all in or not in at all

>>53328964


That's it. I'm sick of all this "Masterwork Trash can" bullshit that's going on in battletech right now. Urbanmechs deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.
I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine urbie from the capellan confederation for 147,1925 c-bills (that's about $117,754,00) and have been practicing with it for almost 2 years now. I can even cut a slab of solid endosteel with my small laser.
Orguss smiths spend several minutes working on a single urbie and inspected it up to 1 time to produce the finest battle techs known to mankind.
My ac10 is thrice as powerful as any Clanner ac10 and thrice as small for that matter too. Anything a railgun can kill, a urbie can kill better. I'm pretty sure a urbie could easily bisect an atlas wearing full duralex heavy plate with a simple vertical swipe of its small laser. Ever wonder why clans never bothered conquering The inner sphere? That's right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Urbies and their compact ac10s of destruction. Even during the clan invasion, Clanner techs targeted the men piloting urbanmechs first because their killing power was feared and respected.
So what am I saying? Urbies are simply the best techs that the galaxy has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the battletech system.

tl;dr = Urbies need to do more damage in battletech

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>>53359239
You're thinking thinking with Urbies.
Urbie in Deus Ex
Urbie in Diablo II
Urbie as the title mech in Mechcommander
Urbie is Halo. He's a pretty cool mech, he kills Atlases and isn't afraid of anything.
Urbie in Aliens Vs Predator 3 doing the "You are one ugly mutha f-" then the fight.
Urbie in Dungeons & Dragons. No dragon or gelatinous cube (fat girl gamers) is safe.
Urbie the Hedgehog
Pokeurbie Black: Collect all 150 Urbies, get a damn certificate, DHSs and a blowjob

BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!

Urbie in movies and tv!

Urbie in Fuller House!
Urbie in a reboot of House! (It's mech Lupus)
Urbie of the North Star
Macross 30: Urbie Dreams
Urbie vs Ironman
Urbie Covenant
The TransUrbies (Not done by Michael Bay!)
Urbie Potter

THERE IS SO MUCH YOU CAN DO!

>>53360174
You know, of you took that powerful crack you're smoking and sold it on the open market, you'd make so much money you could probably buy an actual urbie

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>tfw no Clanner GF

>>53361003
>fucking a chick who fucks her siblings
No thanks m8

>>53361169
>implying they're siblings in our sense.

Sure, they share the same genetics, but so do your cousins thrice removed.

>>53361169

>refusing to fuck a chick with mental issues
May as well just be gay, m8

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>>53361242
>cousin-fcuker

http://orig15.deviantart.net/820d/f/2016/333/4/d/clanner_by_fragmutt-daq14hq.jpg

I DEMAND A TRIAL OF YIFFING

>>53361970
I demand a trial of annihilation.

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>>53361970

>>53363263
What is it about Sonic that attracts autism?

>>53363389

Same thing that attracts it to Battletech.

>>53361970

Of course it's a Wolf.

Yes, that doesn't surprise me at all.

>>53363540
Nah, Battletech is legit good shit.

Sonic is just awful on every conceivable level.

You dont see toilet transformation porn for Alexander Kerensky, now do you?

Looks like BattleTech has a new Line Dev, Brent Evans. He announced himself the other day in the staff area of the forums. Came off as a douche canoe.

It's too long to post here, but here's the best part:
"I’m ending this post with an open challenge—and no I’m not joking. Over the next few months, if anyone wants to challenge specific points of my creative direction along the way, that is totally fine. I will happily meet you in a table-top “Circle of Equals” at GenCon, and we’ll settle our grievances one way or another. If I have to book a table with Mary around the clock to get through all the challenges, then so be it. (And no whining over how much GenCon costs either, because I guarantee I paid more to be there than you by huge magnitude, so suck it up.) Know that I am ready, willing, and able to engage in discussions around any point-of-contention regarding my direction for BattleTech that you care to bring up.

It’s a new era, ladies and gentlemen…and as far as I’m concerned, the days of Line Developers who don’t play the game are over.

Thus shall it stand, until we all shall fall!

Brent"

>>53364475
So if we win, he'll what, say we won and do whatever anyway? Should /btg/ send one of its regulars to Trial him for Possession of the line dev job?

>>53363540
Chris-chan you're going to have to try harder

>>53364475
>douche canoe
I don't see it. At least he plays the game.

>>53364500
I believe that would be a trial of position

>>53364475
>It's too long to post here, but here's the best part:

Please just screenshot it. Please.

>>53364724
^ this

Prnt Scrn that shit b0ss

>>53364475
So, from past posts, do we know what kind of factionfag he is?

>>53365149
http://www.catalystgamelabs.com/about/

Well, on this out-dated bio page (still lists herb, for fucks sake) the profile pic he drew has a Jade Falcon emblem on it?

>>53365149
He's made ten posts on the OF. The five posts that are visible are all from five years ago, commenting on art or minis.

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Ill do it if he wont.

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>>53365623
>>53365614
Some thoughts:

1. The post is cheesy and not super useful, lots of universe references and the like (I'm a PPC to the face, I'm Clan Wolf to Loren's Kurita, etc). If this is how he actually communicates all the time, it's a bad sign for customer service going forward. I'm really hoping this isn't how he talks constantly, though as he put it, he's a Daishi-in-a-china-shop, so maybe it is. We'll gauge this going forward (see point 3 below).

2. His goals aren't bad ones. Customer service, communication to the community, intro product in people's hands, and payments to freelancers are all things CGL needs happening ASAP. If he can deliver on literally any of this, that makes him a net gain for the community. Given that he's a nobody that no one knows anything about, his ability to deliver seems iffy (if he's one of the "Powers That Be" in CGL, why hasn't he done any of this already?) but I'd like to be optimistic for the time being.

3. He is apparently the Art Director for BattleTech right now. I wonder if we can get a resident artfag like Shimmy to weigh in on their experiences with this guy, give us some insight into how he does things. Is he a fair and even minded force for positive change? Is he a power-mad dictator with delusions of grandeur who is stealing this from Randall? Is he in the middle somewhere? And most importantly, is he a good fit for Line Dev? Shimmy, if you're alive, could you let us know how your interactions with this guy have gone and what your thoughts are about him?

tl;dr: Some of this seems a little iffy but I'd like to have optimism. I vote we give this guy a chance and see if he can deliver on some of his promises. If he does, and we all should hope he does, it could be a good shot in the arm for ol' BattleTech.

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>>53364500
>>53364653
>mfw I break Zell because I'm a dirty spheroid and he expects me to bring knives to a knife fight so I bring my iHGR

Tubescum lose again!

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>>53365923
>needing anything than the king
Pls.

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Why dont the Inner Sphere just challenge all of the Clans to a one-off, all out, all or nothing duel where the terms are that the Clanners have to bring their entire military force to the battle?

And then just nuke the planet to hell and back?

It's not like the Clanners would refused, because of the whole "MUH BATCHALL" bullshit that makes them giga retarded in all things war related.

It's sort of ironic that they're a warrior-society and yet they do stupid shit to the detriment of their war effort.

Raging idiot here. Recently got into Battletech, having a blast reading through the lore, and learning about the many avenues there are to enjoy the universe. However, the classic battletech is confusing me in one major way: Do I just need the one core rulebook to play? Are mechs listed in other sourcebooks? What about the other books listed alongside the primary rules (eg. Tech Manual, Tactical Operations, and Strategic Operations)?
Pardon my incredible stupidity. I've been looking for the answer to my questions, but my googlefu has failed me, so I apologise if the answer is out there and I just whizzed past it.

>>53366778
>Do I just need the one core rulebook to play?
Depending on the unit in question, yes. Everything up to TRO: 3085 can be played with just Total Warfare, with some exceptions for units with Arrow IV launchers and Thunderbolts. With the forthcoming BattleMech Manual, you can play with almost every mech released, barring units with equipment from Tactical Operations.

>Are mechs listed in other sourcebooks?
For the most part no. There are several designs in fluff sourcebooks, but most of your bread and butter units are from TROs.

>What about the other books listed alongside the primary rules (eg. Tech Manual, Tactical Operations, and Strategic Operations)?
No, but if you want to build your own units (and everyone eventually does), you'll want to get the Tech Manual. Tactical Operations is for next level play, including more equipment and battlefield options. Strategic Operations expands your options with AeroTech play and adds maintenance and customization rules, plus large scale combat ones.

If you're looking for a good entry way, pick up Total Warfare if you want to experiment with everything, the BMM if you want just mechs, then go for Tech Manual and TacOps.

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>>53366778
Total Warfare has all the rules you need to play. Tactical, Strategic, and Interstellar Operations have additional rules that adds a bunch more layers of complexity to the game. Things like weather, to chucking a club your mech picked up like a javelin.

The Tech Manual is just a huge tome of all the rules you need to make your own units, from conventional vehicles to mechs to even infantry quads. Not necessarily vital to your experience, epecially considering you can just download Solaris Skunkwerks(See OP).

And no, the mech profiles are not listed in the rules. They come separately in the Technical Readout books, all of which are organized by era(TRO 3039 is Late Succession Wars, for example). They have all that you need, even the profile sheets. You can grab 'em in the mediafires in OP.

So, overall you just need the Total Warfare book, a TRO and some models with a hex map.

Also, it would be good to invest scanning the TRO sheets, printing them out and having them laminated. Waaaay easier than recording shit in a notebook.

>>53336431 here. Wanted to give an update.
Ended up taking 1 vee star, 1 medium star, and 1 heavy star. He took 1 elemental star, 1 medium, and 1 heavy. He also bid no assaults. I rushed in with the med star and broke zell immediately then used the vees as an anvil and the heavies as the hammer. Meds were harassers and Hunter killers. Annihilated him and only lost 4 mechs and the entire vee star.

Hunchie 2cs did work as did my Kodiak. Epona As are also real good fire support platforms.

>>53366897
>>53366955

Thank you so much for the assistance!

>>53365877
There's an interview with him up on Sarna, isn't there? I know I've spoken with him briefly, but frankly a fifty--second "hello" at a convention isn't exactly the best way to get to know someone.

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>>53366160
Imagine the logistics it would take to make it seem like the IS brought a sufficient enough force to perform this. You'd also have to make sure that not one person in on the tactic didn't sell out the information to the Clans for massive C-Bills or whatever. It would probably be a good idea if this was like, one or two factions say Comstar and a House Lord, but the entire IS working together again for something like this isn't likely.

Also you'd have other house lords saving some forces to just invade your rear end when you're sending your forces to deal with this plan.

I don't think this is going to work. Interesting idea though. It might work on a smaller scale, or a fan-AU.

Awesome loaded up with fluid guns (maybe flamers just 'cause) called Awesome Sauce.

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*blocks your path*

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Not like I can't cripple it with a SRM swarm. Commando, ho!

>>53364475
>Came off as a douche canoe.
That's an accurate description of him.

>>53348730
Noice, I always held a candle for Crusaders. Me and my buddies ran a mixed Crusader/Thud Heavy Lance in a 3025 RPG. Having to fight a guerilla war with ammo dependant heavies is really goddamned difficult and interesting.

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Post Commandos!

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>>53371710
I got this.

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>>53371730
Speaking completely as a newb, why would you have a Snub PPC when you could have twin LPPCs and tie them to a pair of capacitors? Is it a design thing based on available resources in the fiction?

>>53371762
Design symmetry to the original as well as the fact that the SNPPC head caps all the time. The LPPC replaces the SRM4 in the arm, while the SNPPC replaces the SRM6 in the CT.

>>53371762
Because a Snub Nose is a better knife fighting weapon.

>>53371817
Wait, is there some sort of special modifier when targeting with it?
>>53371882
Is it the lack of minimum range thing?

>>53372195
Snub Nose does more damage up close, and has no minimum range modifier, unlike other PPCs.

>>53372264
Don't forget that it has a 9 hex short range, so you're hitting people with no range mod at the Medium Laser's long range, and most weapons's medium.

>>53372264
>>53372297
Fascinating. I need to employ this thing more. Thanks guys.

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Is this a Strider?

>>53373450
Looks like one.

>>53371730
Change medium laser for small X-Pulse laser as Inf-killer

>>53373904
Does the SXPL do better against infantry than the standard SPL?

I know this is probably a stupid question, but is the BV/victory point calculation any different for units that leave the map due to forced withdrawal as opposed to being destroyed?

>>53374220
In terms of damage no, but the extra range is real nice, especially since it can out range rifle platoons.

>>53374455
Good to know.

>>53374437
It depends on the scenario. For basic purposes, especially in one-shot games, they usually just "count as destroyed" and call it a day. If you want to emphasize tactical withdrawals, you can make them count the same for the enemy and give the retreating player a slight rebate if he manages to get his shit off the board.

>>53373450
It's an MWO/Warhansa strider

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>>53365614
>>53365623
>>53364475

>>53376916
NDA, New Dark Age?

>>53376916
The NDA that includes a post on the official forums?

>>53377563

Those posts are from the private, staff-only subforum and aren't vetted to be publicly posted. Therefore it's an NDA breach.

The fact that Brent is taking over hasn't even been publicly announced yet, AKAIK. I can't find it on any of the official boards.

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>>53365614
>>53365623
>>53365877
Honestly, after digesting this a bit?
This is a lot of what we wanted. He's still fronting the Inner Circle bullshit that is the core problem at Catalyst yes. But not only has he correctly identified a lot of the problems facing BT, he's also (unlike Herb or even Ray and Ben) had the common fucking sense to keep his mouth shut unless it needs to open. He's also willing to tell Randall that his Gamer ADD is fucking killing the company in general and BT in particular, and push to release some of the shit that the freelancers have finished but Catalyst can't/won't release until they get paid.
Having talked to the artists off-line? Apparently Brent is also pretty damned blunt about what works and what doesn't, and he actually pays attention to more than just OF input. Even if he did let JSN's shit through in 3145...

>>53376916
>>53377681
Boy howdy he is, you can see a LOT of dirty laundry in those two posts if you follow up on them in the OFs and read a little ancillary material.

I do hope whomever screenshotted that covered their ass, and that someone doesn't decide to drag it out in the open on the OFs so we can avoid all that bullshit again.

>>53373450
looks like it

>>53364475
>Came off as a douche canoe.
I don't have to be his friend, I just expect him to do his job.

Also, it sounds like they're slowing down the story to focus on marketing? Doesn't sound like the worst idea in the world, but I hope that doesn't mean that the only product we get anymore are these "Touring the Stars" PDFs.

>>53378205
>But not only has he correctly identified a lot of the problems facing BT
>>53378205
>But not only has he correctly identified a lot of the problems facing BT
He couldn't identify a stop sign. He didn't have the first clue what was going on, he's parroting back issues he was flat out told before the announcement. Let's see if he actually follows through fixing them.

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mechu

>>53379925
Fuck you and your "the Grand Titan is a good mech" bullshit. Fuck off, shitler, no one loves you and you'll die alone.

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>>53379987
Hey, it defeated an Atlas, didn't it?

>>53378572
Maybe so. But you bring the same problems up the Randally path, and you get a five-post explanation of why none of them are actually problems and how grateful everyone should be to even be working for Catalyst, let alone getting paid (eventually) for the privilege.

Ben quit because they (by which I mean "Randall") wouldn't let him do his fucking job.

Herb quit because he's a fucking berk and can't control himself in public - or distance himself from complaints.

I kind of hope Evans can keep his mouth shut and do his fucking job. I've worked in PR for over a decade; I'd much rather have a client who's a complete douchebag but trusts his CS people to handle customer service, keeps his goddamned mouth shut and his temper under control than even the broest of bros who personalizes everything.

>>53380320
>but trusts his CS people to handle customer service,
Reread his post. He's taking on customer service himself.

>>53378205
>Boy howdy he is, you can see a LOT of dirty laundry in those two posts if you follow up on them in the OFs and read a little ancillary material.

For those of us not in the loop with who is fucking who on the OF, what sorts of things are you referirng to?

>>53379925
What on Earth has it got in its hand?

>>53380320
Actually, as I understand it, Herb quit because they stopped paying him after moving him to freelancer status. He continued to work for the company after they moved him out of the LD position (when they allegedly told him they wanted to put Battletech "on life support for a while", whatever that meant.)

>>53381410
I see guitar wire and fingers, plus what looks like a Cap green/gold/blakc color scheme, so probably the arm off some shitty Cap 'Mech.

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>>53381637
Should have clarified, I was just talking about the LD position. Ultimately Ben quit for the same reason - which is part of what's going to make the next few months particularly interesting.

someone is dumping TRO and record sheets all over the booru. is this the /tg/ TRO stuff or what, I'm tagging right now and I would like to know.

>>53380320
>But you bring the same problems up the Randally path, and you get a five-post explanation of why none of them are actually problems and how grateful everyone should be to even be working for Catalyst, let alone getting paid (eventually) for the privilege.
You think that's something, wait until you hear Evans polish those turds. He gets it so you can see your face in them.

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does anyone have a copypasta of the thread that this was originally from, where it was theorycrafted how many Iraqi technicals were required to kill an Atlas?

>>53382403
Oh hell, I think the old pics for that years ago is on the booru somewhere. I don't think they are tagged yet though. Lots to go.

TRUCK STRONG!

>>53382077
Dunno, looks like they're dumping some of my customs, as well as other anon's work without actually tagging them.

>>53382480

Yeah, I wanted to show that story to someone but realized I only had the picture, not the full text.

>>53382523
It's this bgb guy, who's responsible for almost all of the booru's posts. I think it's him I chatted with further up the page.

Hey bgb, if you're in thread: your tags kinda suck sometimes. missing underscores everywhere.

>>53382555
but i know you're a busy anon so...

>>53382555
I'm here.
I'm not the only ones tagging.
I have found a bunch of the tags came from the photos themselves, tags imbedded into the files I didn't know even existed. The only way to fix it is to manually go over each one. Those imbedded tags escaped notice until it's too late. We'll get to them. It will just take time.

>>53382750
oh, I get you. well as long as I have crippling anxiety I'll be pitching in.

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>>53382769
I appreciate all the help.
Again, this is a big job, and I kind of enjoy it (mild OCD here,) and it's neat.
Thanks to you and everybody who has helped so far.

>>53382750
Tagging now. I used custom design for fan designs, and actually tagged the chassis.

>>53382811
Mate, you can't tag for shit if you're using "urbie" "urbannmechh" "urbanmek" and others interchangeably. Bad enough no one drops in underscores.

>>53384469

underscores are a cancer derived from ancient programming languages and their fucking inability to handle spaces.

>>53384705
Sure, but when you tag something "shadow hawk really cool" and the page shits out "cool hawk really shadow" it makes tracking the mech pointless. If the guy's going to be "OCD" and set up the page, he should actually follow the conventions.

>>53384727

maybe don't use a shitty database in your backend?

>>53384792
>maybe don't use a shitty database in your backend?
http://www.mongodb-is-web-scale.com/

How do you import the campaign options file for against the bot play? Do I just put the file somewhere? Or is there a method to select it and import it from within mekhq?

>>53385092
mhq folder/mmconf/mhqPresets, and it will have the file in the folder. When you launch MHQ and start a new campaign it will ask what preset you want to use.

>>53385145
Thanks!

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>>53384469
"urannmechh" and "urbanmeck" is not me. I allowed "urbie" because reasons. I think those other ones are from stuff imbedded in the files themselves. Thanks for the heads up.

>>53383998
Thanks again!

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>>53386718
Why, boner?

So, just to start stirring up interest now, I'll be hosting the semi-usual /btg/ game on Saturday. Rules/scenario yet to be determined, but I have multiple servers available, so we can host plenty of nerds, and can possibly even do different settings/scenarios if there's enough interest. RSVP here or on IRC, I'll ping the thread again in a few days as a reminder.

>>53387782
If I see another LPL boat I'm gonna go full retard and bring the nuclear urbie to the party.

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>>53387799
I would pay to see that.

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What is a "Roku" mech?

>>53389588
Rokurokubi is from DA and the 3145 Combine book.

>>53389611
Awesome! Will look it up.

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Who Owens here?

>>53391093
right here

Did anybody else here get into Battletech by reading a book in Jail? I sure as shit did.

>>53391204
You're going to have to go into that more.

Mechwarrior 2 got me into battletech.

>>53391419
I was doing a sentence for a drunken bar brawl. That was the only entertaining book there. It was Tactics of Duty.

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>>53391093

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>>53391953
"Onii-chan! Why do you have toast sticking out of your mouth as you head to mech high school?"

"It's a friggin' cigar, dumbass."

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>>53391467
Ah, it happens to us all. I was already reading Stackpole from X-Wing and picking up his BT books to find out the lore behind the game, I also ended up picking up the Camacho's Cabarello's novels. They were pretty good.

>>53392038

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>>53364001
Every day I encounter something new and weird on the internet.

Every day, we stray further from god

>Somewhere someone has exactly this face when hearing about Sonic toilet transformation porn

>>53391953
How did the Jags get a hold of Owenses and Striders and such in MW3?

>>53393198
Supposedly, they captured them from the DCMS and sent them back home for their scientist caste to analyze.

The Twilight Of The Clans books also suggest that this was done to cover up a smuggling gig to outfit the guard troops on Huntress, since the touman had moved almost all war material into the Inner Sphere.

>>53393386
Okay, now that makes sense. I played MW3 through various channels. Was there info in this in the manual for it or something, because I missed that?

>>53393466
It's been a while, and I only had that handbook as a .pdf on a CD... but as far as I remember, that wasn't mentioned. I may be in error, though.

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>>53393680
This is all I could find.

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>>53393198
>>53394388
>>53393680
>>53393466
The game's manual is rarely the place to look for info. Microsoft isn't big on explaining shit, and never were. Most of the fluff is post-hoc sourcebook work by FASA; check the Twilight of the Clans book.

>>53392038
Best omni

>>53395301
>Best cigar.
There, fixed that for you.

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>>53395634
I love it when a plan comes together.

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Did any of you guys come up with your own schemes?

Do you even paint minis or just play online these days?

>>53395718
Oh my word, it looks like Easter threw up all over it. Would Fireballs, Ostscouts, Ostrocs and Ostsols be the Easter eggs?

>>53395718

Nobody actually plays tabletop Battletech. It's too complicated and takes too long. Pretty much every group of any importance has switched completely over to Megamek.

>>53395765
>tfw you played last weekend and got rolled by C3i
>feels bad
Nigger, you don't know what you're talking about. Go be negative somewhere else.

>>53395718
I paint minis from time to time. I'm shit and don't have infinite free time, but I do a little painting as the mood takes me.

>>53395749
I think it looks pretty damn fabulous. Haters gonna hate.

>>53395765
are there any plans to update the rules? Maybe a new starter set with new minis or something?

Megamek page is down atm, so I can't really look into it.

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>>53395718
>Do you even paint minis or just play online these days?

Not sure if yer gonna like my answer, anon...

>>53396022
You gotta do something, while waiting around for something to happen with battletech...

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>>53395718
All the time, although after I busted my wrists I've not been quite as good as I used to.

Most recent game was three weeks ago, ran a demo with my brother and the Fifty-foot Lesbian for ITT Day.

>>53396080

Which reminds me, we have a new Line director. Why hasn't he fixed the problems with the OF yet, and why hasn't there been a new release of the boxed set yet?

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>>53395908
>are there any plans to update the rules? Maybe a new starter set with new minis or something?
Check upthread to the OF screenshots, dude.

Just started playing ATB. What the fuck is a "chase" mission?

>>53396134
Oh, thanks for pointing that out.
This should be interesting.

>>53396134
Moe, Larry & Curly torso bombs.

>>53396112
Even the most competent LD would take more than days to fix all the problems with Battletech. You are basically asking for a miracle

>>53396112
I stay the ever loving hell away from the OF. What's wrong with them?

>>53398098
>>53396112
Wait what?
We have a new LD?

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>>53398198
>Wait what?
>We have a new LD?

Emperor's Teeth, anon! See >>53364475

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>>53365614
>>53365623

I'm calling bullshit on this entire thing.

They know information in the admin forum gets shared around by many individuals to many different groups. They know people are waking up to the fact that CGL would like to walk away from Battletech, but not before bleeding it dry. But in order to do that, they need to keep people hooked for just a little while longer.

I think they're leveraging the leakiness of their admin forum to try and generate false hope.

If you think the people that want this to happen aren't reading this thread, you're fuckin' crazy.

>>53399230
Do you really think they are smart enough to think of that though?

>>53399253
Never underestimate the ingenuity of idiots, anon.

Is there a European counterpart to fighting phiranna graphics?
Or some other source of generic decals you guys use?

assuming BT does get routed and dumped in the near future by CGL, I'm not gonna cry about it.

I survived the Harmony Gold debacle, I'll live through that.

>>53400533
It would be one of the best things to happen to BT, getting dumped by CGL.

>>53400631

Yup. I can't wait to have the game line snapped up by Palladium, or GW, or have Harmony Gold buy it just to bury it.

>>53400747
>GW picks up BT
why does this hypothetical concept give me a fear boner...

>>53400747
Palladium doesn't have the money, GW doesn't give a shit, but harmony gold actually might do that
Really the best case is probably SJGames buying it

>>53400821
>Really the best case is probably SJGames buying it

It competes with Ogre. They'd have no reason to buy it.

And Siembedia has said on multiple occasions in the wake of the Robotech Tactics fiasco (mad that people were buying Robotech minis for Battletech) that if he could crater the Battletech franchise, he would. He'd be a motivated buyer, and at this point I don't take on faith he couldn't scare up the money from his fanbase, since they're already willing to just hand him money for no actual product.

The only company that I'd trust to take over Battletech is FFG, but only for the writing/storyline. They'd completely fuck up the rules to try and make it use propriatary dice or set it up using the X-wing movement/combat system.

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>>53400821
>Really the best case is probably SJGames buying it

Now yer talkin', friend!

>>53400968
Honestly Battletech could use a FFG-style revival.
Everyone hates clickytech but the last time I saw crowds of people playing BT in public was clickytech. The brand needs something like that to get interest back up.

>>53400968
>It competes with Ogre
It really doesn't
Hex boards are about all they've got in common

>>53401091
>Honestly Battletech could use a FFG-style revival.

If FFG gets ahold of the property, Battletech will be dead. There might be a giant robot game with some mild thematic ties, but everything you know and love about Battletech itself will cease to exist. Guaranteed.

There isn't a game company out there who can be trusted with the Battletech property. Every one of them will either bury it as competition, changes it so much it'll be unrecognizable, or are even worse than CGL (yes, that's possible). There is no hope.

>>53401091
I would be fine with FFG making an XWM-style game based on the battletech property, more than fine, I just wouldn't trust then with any fluff stuff related to it

>>53401145
>everything you know and love about Battletech itself will cease to exist

I like the mechs, everything else in the game is expendable. If I have a game where I can use a Timber Wolf I will be happy

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>>53396709
Agony

One side is expected to run across a huge map and get to the other side without being killed. Either way, you will be pitted against obscene amounts of opponents. Usually massive swarms of light hovercraft.

The best way to survive is to have lots of jump capable melee mechs and force a night mission. It's the main reason why I am willing to pay any price for Ti-Ts'angs when they show up in the marketplace.

If you're the attacker, I think you're expected to run to the other side with at least half of your units and flee off the far edge of the board. As the defender, you have to kill half of the opposition before they flee the other end of the board.

If you're fleeing, you don't get to keep salvage. If you're defending, you get to keep everything.

You have to manually put in whether or not you were successful or not.

If you're the attacker and stuck using anything that isn't going to be able to outrun Saladin hover tanks, you can always skip the mission and take a contract breach. Even as a defender, having something mobile and jump capable is a must, because the broken terrain that often gets generated coupled with all those tanks with omnidirectional turrets can mean getting completely wiped out before the opponents clear the first mapsheet.

>>53396709

The punishment for being a "normal" Battletech player and taking all heavy and assault Mechs. If you don't have a credible light/medium Mech component, then you'll lose every time. And Chase missions are hugely common.

>>53400533
>>53400631
>>53400747
>>53400817
How much is the franchise technically worth at this point?

>>53401446
>>53401594

Yeesh, sounds incredibly painful. I'll try and keep my distance before I get enough light mechs then.

>>53401611
Ask Topps, they own it, and it comes down to what they value it at.

>>53401611
Probably not much, but enough that Topps gets value out of it from CGL. I bet someone with a good $10 mil could buy it from Topps without too much fuss, just no one wants to put up the cash since that's actually a lot in the gaming world.

battlebump

Ok I need some help /btg/.

I want to lure my six friends into Battletech, I got the intro box plus some random mechs I've collected over the years, I've even fucking painted them.

I tried playing regular btech with them once and it was a fucking catastrophe trying to run it for 4 people.
When I did run the Alpha Strike rules with a very low model count, we did finish the game at least and we all had a good laugh.

What I need is a hook.
A campaign.
A reason for players to care about the setting and game.

Like, I need something to hook in and make them want to buy their own lances and shit.

I'm completely open to sugestions! Please help this third worlder to play some btech.

tl;dr
Have friends, we suck at classic battletech but can play Alpha Strike. How do I hook them into a campaign?

>>53404304
What do they like? Do any of them play tabletops like pathfinder/dnd? Do they like GoT? A little mior info would be helpful.

>>53404837
4 of them love rpgs, the other 2 love your typical tabletop games (Catan, etc.).

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I love silly paint jobs.

>>53405681
What mech is that supposed to be?

>>53404304
Have you done a variant on the lost tech cache? Or maybe there's a crashed dropshop loaded with parts and gold, something that provides a goal, and an enemy trying to race your guys to the objective? You know, some missions where the enemy puts up a lance here and there to slow your advance or something?

new thread (with some updates)
>>53408067

>>53406263
It's a Hi-Mock from Gundam Build Fighters

>>53408873
Thanks a bunch.

>>53408084
>new thread before the bump limit
Every fucking time

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>>53409566