Warhammer 40,000 general /40kg/

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First
For
DIGGAZ!

Second for underdog guard

>>53319389
What the fuck is this

WHEN THE FUCK ARE THEY GOING TO RELEASE THIS? STOP BLUEBALLING ME YOU FUCKING CUNTS.

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>gw might be giving us Thousand Sons unique spells that are useful but on the fun level of things like treason of Tzeentch

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6th for
Kill the metaposter
Purge the shitposter
Burn the derailer

>>53319414
Guard have always been mid-high tier. As a guard player, we have never been the underdogs, except in the lore, when we get raped because geedubs hates us.

>>53319418
A faction from Gorkamorka. They're humans who worship/emulate orkz.

>>53319418
Diggas.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Digga

>>53319418
It says right there; Diggaz.

Man 40k's FAQ writers in for a hard time if you're indicative of the reading comprehension.

>>53319418
faction from Gorkamorka - humans living on an ork-dominated planet that decided that the best idea was to pretend to be orks.

Fuck Space Wolves
Day of the flea collar when

>>53319450
>>53319441
>>53319440
That's a fun concept.

>>53319456
>Not day of the leash

You had one fucking job.

any mention of heavy weapons teams in 8th?

glanced over something that said they were going to be a bit more useful

>>53319503
other than that no.

>>53319484

Magnus needs to spay those mutts

>>53319503
-1 to WS when they move and shoot rather than what happened before
My dust boys get to not have that downside so it's just locking in the idea that my first squad will be ranged + cannon focused- I can pick up those flamers later down the road

>>53319433
Are you fucking kidding me? Guard is shit right now.

>>53319503
Buffed nicely so far, can move and shoot at -1bs. Pretty good, hitting on 5+ is pretty shit, but if you have to move them, still being able to shoot is great. Also splitfire is a thing now so you can hide 5 Lascannons in a big blob and btfo tanks while being pretty safe.

>>53319541
Emperor's wrath artillery formation murders pretty much anything you can field against it. Wyverns and basilisks with ignore cover+psyker powers is strong as fuck.

Despite what people say, blob guard is also still really strong if you can field enough conscripts. No one can deal with that level of bodies with the standard cheese lists.

>Grav cannons shoot infantry squad
>7 guys die no saves
>Ok lol, got 150 more.

>>53319372
I didn't follow the stream but they supposedly mentioned "mysterious xenos still being around"

did they give anymore hints about them or is it the sum of infos? at what minute of the stream was it?

>>53319433
Haha, what the fuck are you smoking, my dude?

The only good guard at the moment are the traitors.

>>53319580
Any MC and you fucked. This is why im so hyped about 8ed, now blast deals multi wounds to one target.

Just got my first multi-part kit, and I think I've got it sorted, but not 100%.
I don't like my chances, but is there anything online that can help you sort out what's what and piece things together?

>>53319372
>>Previously on /40kg/
>Nothing of value

kek

Also, 4 things of recaptcha. :/

>play elder since 4th
>get Buttmad
>quit just after sixth ed
>miss 90% of 7th
>hear 8th is coming out
>check it out yesterday
>motherfuxking ynnead was born
>girlyman is back
>the rules look good
>complete codex rebalance and rerelease

Jesus fuck this looks awesome.
I just started painting again tonight.

>>53319605
>Select all street signs
>Ok, select all street signs
>Wrong, select all vehicles
>Ok, select all vehicles
>Wrong, select all vehicles

FUUUUUUUUUUCK. HOW DOES THIS NEW SHITTY CAPTCHA EVEN WORK I DONT UNDERSTAND.

>>53319605
>>53319635
Just use legacy captcha.

>>53319526
IMO IG heavy weapons teams should have a special rule;
Emplaced guns:
IG Heavy Weapons teams that Move and Fire suffer a -2 to their BS, however if they remain stationary they expertly find (or make cover), granting them a +1 to their save against shooting attacks if they remain stationary, this stacks with bonuses for terrain, ruins ect.

>>53319643
Can you do that as a phoneposting pleb? I can't see an option.

>Mfw I just remembered the old captcha and replacing the non-checked word with nigger every time

Kek.

>>53319687
I have it on my phone too (posting from my desktop right now though), so you should be able to.

>>53319687
>>Mfw I just remembered the old captcha and replacing the non-checked word with nigger every time
Epic XDDDDDD

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>>53319665
That would definitely make heavy weapon team only squads way better.

>Mfw random anons come up with better balanced rules than the pretentious fucks at geedubs

>>53319712
Newfag detected.

Think GW might have some sort of support for killteam in 8th?
While I like normal scale 40k just as much as the next guy and am quite excited for the game, I'm also hoping for balanced small scale skirmishes. If not, think that the next best option would just be running each model as an individual?

>>53319716
Also make a bit more sense, because IG heavy weapon are bulky things, so if they DID move and fire they'd still deploy them, but it'd be a 6 second rushjob.

Also with the new rules suggestion system they are doing it may become real.

Just get enough... positive support behind a hives suggestion it and it'll get escalated.

>>53319737
i doubt killteam will continue. now that Shadowwar is here, it covers small squad skirmish better.

>>53319737
I hope so, but I'm a little worried they'll try and rely on SW:A to take it's place.

It'd probably be possible to do "x points, requires y, nothing over z toughness", though.

>>53319759
Once they get proper rules for 9/10ths for the factions.

Not that phoned in PDF garbage.

>>53319759
Well RIP. I'm liking the new 40k rules a tad bit more than shadow wars surprisingly, and besides that I want to be able to do things like running my rubrics or other cool things with my friends and their things.
>>53319765
Me too anon. Hopefully if they don't support killteam the makeshift method will work and have a fair bit of balance.

My brother and his friends have been playing 40k for a while (casually between friends, not LGS level) and I've finally decided to bite the bullet and start with the "Start Collecting" box as a base.

I used to play Necrons all the time in Dawn of War so I thought that would be a good place to start.

I picked up both Start Collecting boxes (One has the Overlord, Warriors, Scarabs and Stalker, other has the transport/artillery and warrior) and a squad of Triarch Praetorians.

I've been told by them that I should have waited for 8th edition, but I had the money on me at the time.

Anything that you would recommend I do to support/reinforce the army, or is it too soon to make recommendations?

>>53319630
>motherfuxking ynnead was born
>girlyman is back
this maybe bad

>>53319635
>not clicking a random square in 6 times, verifying and being able to post anyways

Captcha is a conspiracy to teach AI to recognize shit.

Is anybody already considering houseruling armour facings and keeping initiative in the game (bonus for charging as per new rules)? The removal of those parts really irk me from the new edition (or from what we've seen at least). Shouldn't be that hard to implement.

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>>53319795
The Anihilation Barge statline is literally the only thing we know about Necrons, and it's not even got weapons, special rules or anything

>>53319807
>Captcha is a conspiracy to teach AI to recognise shit

You know it's funny that everytime I solve one of these things, I'm fucking sure that's what's happening.

>>53319795
We know fuck all about Necrons at the moment, but if you want something to paint in the meantime waiting for 8th, I doubt you will go wrong with either more Warriors or a monolith. Both of those have been staples for fucking ages and I doubt it will change.

>>53319795
we don't know anything about necrons in the upcoming 8th edition, but if their history across previous editions is anything to go by just more warriors will do you well.

>>53319838
I'm still fucked off they didn't release a full datasheet, I mean the whole vehicle teaser thing was essentially 'wow, it's fucking nothing' so they could have given us a datasheet at least.

>>53319850
It IS.
We're helping teaching it how to recognise vehicles, landmark, rivers, house numbers...

...We're teaching their fucking cars how to see

>Trying to explain to a friend evidence of cuck in the 40k universe.
So far I have Marneus Calgar > Rowboot
And Cegorach > Ynnead.

But I'm coming up pretty dry.
Anyone got some?

>>53319807
facings i can get behind some something like +1 to wound rear.

Iniative gone is fine. the new system works well and adds a tactical element of choice in the alternative activation.

>>53319807
>>53319850
It's not even a conspiracy. Developers are open about the fact that they use captcha information.

>>53319597
>multi-wounds to multiple targets
fix'd

>>53319880
It definitely is suspect at the very fucking least. It's interesting that this opinion only seems to occur on the chans, every other place seems to think it's fine.

But as we know, the chans are always fucking right so there is definitely something going on with it.

hyped for <HIVE FLEET>

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>>53319881

>>53319881
Khaine was cucked by Ynnead by stealing his aspect warriors and Phoenix Lords, he is miserable failure anyway.

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>>53319912
>behemoth gets longer charge distances
>kraken gets multiple outflanking units
>leviathan gets numberless on non synapses

BROTHER AZRAEL, THE ENEMY HAVE PENETRATED OUR REARGUARD

THE HERETICAL ELDAR'S VIBRO CANNONS ARE ATTACKING OUR VULNERABLE REAR ARMOUR

AND OUR MEN ARE ENJOYING IT

>>53319881
Don't forget Celestine and Rowboat.

>>53319981
And Yvraine?
What are we talking here?

>>53319988
Yes Celestine likes to watch them.

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>*grognards screeching*
>hunhun muh speesh mareens wont dont who'mstdv acc3pt primaris!!!!
codex and training not moneyy and test tubes benis benis haha
>Grognard open the 8th rulebook
>all chapter have accepted primaris for more than 120 years
>Grognard commit sudoku
>Good riddance
>Other grognards to pussy to sudoku lots all their army value and knows the kit will never ever be updated.
>They finally take the primaris knot 2 years later and drop thousand upon thousand on it.

>>53319970
>Al you have to do to draw out the DA autists is make some gay jokes

Kek.

>>53319912
If they fuck up Behemoth I will tape scythes to my hands and going SKREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEing through their office in Nottingham

>>53320002
>if only....

>>53319966
Set speculation to max?

>>53320011
The worst part is that there are people into the 40k hobby that are actually autistic enough to do this.

>>53319966
and then I would not know what I want to play...

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Saw this floating around and thought I'd share.

>>53320011
how could they fuck up?
there are no rules now, so every bonus will be a good bonus

>>53319966
>it's standard of the new edition to have a limit on charge distances because you can now charge from deepstrikes
>only half your srmy at best can go in reserves
>you have to keep points unspent to summon additional units

>>53319838
>>53319850
>>53319858

Awesome thanks guys, I was talking to the manager at my local GW store and he said that more infomation would be coming out within the next week and a half.

I'm super fine with the Warriors still being a staple. I love the idea of a slow death tide encroaching on the enemy, rather than picking them off with random ballistics/spells.

>>53320042
Parallax makes the comparison less use though.

>>53320024
>>53320011
S'odd Orks haven't been tagging up GW storefronts, entirely in character.

>>53319881
>implying Calgar isn't getting PRIMED

>>53320042

Are tartaros really that small

>>53320067
Get some Monolioths and Immortals too then, they emphasise that aspect.

>>53320042
Great work anon. Would be a bunch better if it were possible to have them all at the same angle but you did what you could so thanks.

>>53320042
I don't know about that new plague marine man, the shot angle is really weird.

>>53320087
That's what I was going for next, I've also been eyeing Wraiths (or a Croissant) to add in for distraction as I see them in every Necron force I come across.

Why did none ask if primarines can be females?

>>53320137
>the plot twist when the sprues come with female heads
i would laugh for days over the neckbeard rage

>>53320137
Malcador did.

>>53320147
Or worse, they bring back the Lion and it turns out that the deep dark secret of the DA is that their Primarch is a womyn...

>>53320156
>deep dark secret of the DA is that their Primarch is a womyn (male)
fix'd

>>53320169
I don't browse Tumblr enough to understand this post.

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>>53320042
Why they keep 30k bases black?

>>53320156
na, that wouldn't be that fun, because it reset the fluff
but if you can make SM but stronger/faster/better
you surely can make them female too
that would be fun

Since when did /tg/ become so full of 40k shills? If somebody said Ward was coming back, Gulliman would return and that he'd basically become the Emperor and lead another Great Crusade whilst jerking his spunk into every chapter's gene pool, it might have been enough to make the neckbeards snap and burn Warhammer World to the ground.

Instead every criticism - valid or raging - is shot down by a dozen frothing fanboys screaming "OMG STOP BEING AUTISTIC111!11!"

Is it, dare I say it, a Reddit influx?

>>53320206
Newfags who don't even know who Rick Priestley is.

>>53320206
maybe it's just people tired of people shitposting, saying Age of Guiliman is near the corner

>>53320206
Because people who had a problem with that have long gone?

>>53320206
Most people who care left and the ones remaining realized they can't do shit to change GW's direction.

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>>53320210
Grognard doesn't know that it was Priestley himself who invent Guilliman as we know and said that Ultras are best.
>>53320206
People may love new things and hate stagnation that lasted decades.

>>53320206
But none of that is really true. I don't like the new lore really, but guilliman is about as worshipped as you would expect a son of God to be, his 'great crusade' is pretty average as far as we know, the primaris Marines, as lame as they are, are actually made of their primarchs geneseed, not just rowboats.

>>53320206
Pro 40k sentiment, In a 40k thread?
How shocking!

>>53320229
The difference is that it was perfectly fine in the original vision of 40k. Girly and the Ultras were the golden boys who could do no wrong. The problem started when people (like WARD) started taking it seriously.

>>53319908
it's not suspect they've been pretty open it abot being for training AIs.

and it is fine, AIs gotta learn somehow.

>>53319433
Guard players who find it hard to play well in 7th are either in a WAAC meta or try and play space marine-lite. I win most games I play.

>>53320206
I don't know about reddit, but there's a lot of people coming from normiebook's warhammer groups

and actual store owners at least in /aosg/

>>53320286
Space Marine lite?

>>53320042
Can anyone add a death korps guardsman to that picture?

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We are going to drown the entire galaxy in blood and there is nothing you can do to stop it.

>>53320206
>If somebody said Ward was coming back, Gulliman would return and that he'd basically become the Emperor and lead another Great Crusade whilst jerking his spunk into every chapter's gene pool
Except only one of these things happened. Ward isn't back and Guilliman's genes are not in the other Legions genepools.

>>53320366
Nice gaslighting you faggot.

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>>53320360
Yeah! Blood Orgy!

>>53320370
Okay retard

>>53320308
im pretty sure he'd be the same height as the cadian

>>53320370
Ward did some advising, then left. The Primaris marines use Geneseed from all the founding legions.

>>53320374
You're the retard who has to gaslight to get a point across LOL

>>53320366
Don't expect screechers to actually read stuff themselves, they rely on second hand information and asspulls.

>>53320366
Ward did literally get rehired by GeeDubya though

>>53320366
Stop using your evil facts to opress the feelings of others!

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hey /40kg/,
I just noticed that these guys seem to have entirely replaced the old Firewarriors.
Strikes me as odd since they have different helmet designs and all.
Am I missing something or do the guys I have kicking around now look different than the new Firewarriors?

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How can loyalists even compete?

>-Battleforged army must share one key words "Imperium" = 3 basic stratagem, "Space Marines" = access to sm stratagesm, "Blood Angel= ba stratagem. but they all share the force chart (the 9 they talked about.)

I hope this doesn't screw over smaller, niche armies like sisters or inquistion.

>>53320403
Fuck sisters lol

>>53319908

It's not some grand conspiracy, it's exactly what they're using it for.

Back when it was text, it was teaching image recognition to read better to help digitally scan books.

>>53320394
happens to old models all the time

are you new

>>53320388
He was consulted for something minor as a one-off thing, and the 40k writing team confirmed he didn't have anything to do with them, so it was probably just some AoS side project like Shadespire or some shit.

You redditor newfags who never even played 40k before Ward was in just eat up these memes like "Ward ruined muh fluff!" and have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Guilliman coming back has been foreshadowed since the dawn of the game, Ultramarines being considered canonically the best Chapter was their entire thing since they were introduced in the early fucking 90s, and one fanboy writing about "muh spiritual liege" does not drive GWs entire design teams executive game development decisions for a whole edition.

>>53320401
>>53320360
What kind of gifts does Khorne give? Why would I as a trained human soldier want to worship him?

>>53320413
nah. Just making sure, Firewarriors are still a thing.

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>>53320419
wew
didnt take much to sperg out an ultrasmurf apologist

>>53320403
Imperium>Inquisition>Ordo Hereticus/Malleus/Xenos
3 layers of stratagems.

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>>53320419
>Guilliman coming back has been foreshadowed since the dawn of the game,
His first quote perfectly fits Ynnari.

>>53320433
Faggot I don't even play ultrasmurfs or any kind of boring-ass marines, I'm just sick of newfags who know literally nothing about this game coming in and complaining based on their newfag memes they got secondhand like "haha guys look I totally fit in here now right?"

You autists don't give a fuck about 40k you just want something to bitch about and "muh Ward" is the trendy thing.

>>53320403
It shouldn't unless you decide to ally them with a bunch of other shit.

>>53320403
The real losers will be Ork/Nid/Crons
As they'll either get a retarded Xeno supergroup, or only 2 "layers"

>>53320394
arent those just breachers though?
though I do like the new helmets regardless

>>53320451
You realise newfags are the ones spouting the "NUGW CAN LITERALLY NO DO WRONG!" and screaming "AUTISM!11!" at literally every single criticism directed towards them? Oldfags are the ones who see how vastly different and barely thought up the lore is. That, or they're just defending an excuse to get their fix of MORE LOYALIST POWER ARMOUR like heroin addicts.

People are hyping themselves up too much for 8th. People think just because GW said they give a shit about the rules literally everything will be perfect. As nice as that may be, there's going to be a huge crash and burn at this rate.

>>53320472
No.

They'll get, for example: generic stratagems + Tyranid stratagems + Hive Fleet Behemoth stratagems

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Slowly but surely guys... Slowly but surely.

I hope you guys are doing better.

>>53320423

Supernatural strength, metal hard skin, daemonic weaponry, a khorne dog or a mount. If he really likes you, he'll also bring you back if you die.

>>53320451
all I did was say that ward got rehired by GW and this made you fly into an autistic rampage about >m-muh newfags ):<< and >y-you dont REALLY care about 40k, ur not a reel gamurr xxdd
wew fucking lad
sit the fuck down and take a breather there, guy.

>>53320479
>Oldfags are the ones who see how vastly different and barely thought up the lore is.

Nah, man. Nah.

>>53320479
>As nice as that may be, there's going to be a huge crash and burn at this rate.
There's not, because the crash and burn happened already throughout 6th and 7th. If you weren't a newfag you would know that a fuckton of the community already left and the game was on the decline until the past year or so. 8th is bringing way more people back in than it's pissing off, especially the ACTUAL old guard who still remember 2nd and love the new rules for bringing back a bunch of classic 2e shit.

>>53320423
If you are so weak you must beg favours of the blood god, nothing.

But the strong get stronger, your hate becomes a shield and you rage will se you do not fall befor the last of you foes do.

>>53320479
>Oldfags are the ones who see how vastly different and barely thought up the lore is
You're not an oldfag if you started in 5e, newfag.

The lore has been shit since 5th, this latest stuff is just more of the same. We're not going to cry over the lore continuing to be dead when that's already been the case for 3 editions, but we are going to be happy the crunch is finally getting fixed at least.

>>53320496
>newfag
>newfag
>newfag
>OLD GUARDDD LIEK ME
>fucking newfags
>newfag
literally how insecure

>>53320503
>>53320485
Can you get stuff like feel no pain and a healing factor from him?

>>53320508
>he says, having no argument, because he is actually a fucking newfag and proving the other guy right

>>53320513
Yeah, probably. FNP would probably be from being to crazy angry to feel it though.

>>53320496
No, my point is that anywhere you go is full of people who are hyping themselves up and desperately convinced it will be the hottest shit ever made. Any "g-guys, what if the rules aren't well balanced?" get screeched down by people going "THIS IS NUGW, NUGW ARE LITERALLY PERFECT, HOW CAN THIS GO WRONG?!"

The exception seems to be Eldar and Tau stuff. Even diehard fanboys can't contain their sperging out at rules for armies who might beat their precious power armour.

>>53320482
And imperials will get 4 layers then as all battleforge get generics

>>53320526
No because they confirmed "Imperium" doesn't grant any because it's too broad of a keyword.

You'll basically get 3 layers each if you limit allies.

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relax

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>>53320484
Looking good

Im nearly through with this batch of dudes, just a few more steps to go

>>53320522
I see. How about speed?

>>53320441

Yeah, but what if I want inqusition leading a storm trooper strike force?

A perfectly fluffy army, but it would only get Imperium strategems. Inquisition stratagems will practially never get used, since pretty much no one uses them one their own.

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>>53320540
surely if they call eachother newfags some more while claiming to be oldfags themselves, the other side will run away to another site?

>>53320541
the meganob on the right seems conflicted about his emotions

>>53320548
Probably, but that's more Slaanesh.

>>53320540
DONT DO IT

>>53320531
This. You can think of some Faction keywords as being essentially Grand Alliance level, and these ones don't grant stratagems, so you'll only get the generic 3 that are available to everyone. They are Imperium, Chaos, and Aeldari.

Below that you have specific army keywords, such as Adeptus Astartes, Tyranids, and Chaos Daemons, these will grant some.

Finally you have sub-faction keywords, like Ultramarines, Nurgle, and Iyanden, these will grant more.

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>>53320541

I dig it. Deft skulls?

Here's the rest of the painted squad.

>>53320541

Ever thought about adding some yellow somewhere, perhaps gold?

>>53320568
World Eaters did get a massive speed boost in 7e...

>>53320565
To krump or not to krump that is the question.

>>53320548
Dude, he just gives whatever, shut up and sell more souls

>>53320556
It's quite possible that Inquisition will be able to take Stormtroops in their own separate datasheet that will include the Inquisition keyword, like how Genestealer Cults will be able to take a different version of Genestealers that gain the Genestealer Cult keyword instead of the Hive Fleet keyword.

Assault Ultramarine vs Assault Blood Angel (not DC).

Who wins and why?

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>>53320565
>dey sez orkz is made for fightin'
>but me dont feel like fightin' no more

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>>53320540
>>53320570

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>>53320578
I have a few hazard stripes scattered around the army, and i pick out things like nose/lip/earrings with gold.

>>53320601
oh you're this guy
how'd you do the stripes, bud

>tfw should paint stuff but suddenly lost all inspiration

>>53320607
Tau ochre>averland>flash gitz yellow

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>>53320609
>tfw should paint and assemble stuff but lacked motivation for months

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>>53320559
thanks dok

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>>53320584
>tfw the boss lets you hold 2 killsaws and tells you to be happy but all you ever wanted was sum dakka

>>53320616
Why was 1995 so bright?

>>53320616
good old goblin green rims

>>53320574
Oh, and then there will probably be Allied Detachments that COST command points rather than grant them for people who want to be super fags and run Tau and Eldar together, for example. So those guys will not only lose out on specific stratagems but they'll have less CP to spend on the ones they do get.

Can someone explain to me what the big deal about Primaris Marines is? They're Marines that sacrifice specialist weapons to be better on average and cost slightly more. They get distributed as a specialist role within existing armies by the sound of it. The Imperium was overdue for a new founding anyway since they average happening every 400 years and M42 would start at just under 300 anyway. You were literally always going to get some kind of special snowflake new marines just given the occasion and numbers.

People loved to bitch when GW was stagnant and make fanfiction about advancing the story and having new units. Now that it's actually here there's just bitching about that.

But what do I know, I like the IG. Just being able to mount a plasma weapon on a tripod or a couple of lasguns on a motorcycle would be like all of the primarchs at once.

>>53320655
>People loved to bitch when GW was stagnant and make fanfiction about advancing the story and having new units. Now that it's actually here there's just bitching about that.

Because nobody said, "I don't care if the new lore is total shit, so long as it advances."

>>53320663
It's not total shit, I love it.

>>53320663
>me no like new stuff

>>53320655
They can get specialist weapons, but the whole squad has to take them.

So you'll see all bolter, all plasma, all melta etc.

>was gonna start an iron knights army for the new edition
>numarines come out, meaning any normal Marines I buy will look pretty stupid in 5 years when they're phased out
>consider playing guard instead to get maximum /yourdudes/
>cadians only things that aren't super expensive
>sculpts are ancient making them look cartoony
>suffer

Anyone else hoping we get some more sculpts with the new ed?

>>53320588

I hope so.

I was planning a new army based around the black ships, Inquisition, sisters of silence, storm troopers, maybe a few Naval assets like Valkyries.

Who knows, maybe any army with an inquisitor can use their stratagems, a bit like how they always get warlord traits currently. I'll probably still make the army regardless because it should be a load of fun to paint and model.

>>53320663
can you explain what's shit about it?

>>53320672
It's shit, and you love it. Those aren't mutually exclusive shill.

>>53320677
Which part of his post even imply that? He clearly said he didn't like shit fluff.

>>53320004
for research purposes do you happen to know who the woman is?

>>53320697
5 years is quite a long time anon.

>>53320655

On that note if someone wanted to make a ranged version of rough riders would it be viable? I mean in the sense of "take a motorcycle, mount a lasgun on either side" and sending them out essentially either like that or with special weapons.

A squad of five would effectively have the firepower of an infantry group and be slightly faster with fewer models. I'd imagine the point cost would be a similar price range as well. Given the context you may strip out base grenades but have optional special weapons mountable on all five.

The space marine bikes are cool and it seems like an obvious thing to me that the IG should have their own version adapted to their tactics. The motorcycle isn't exactly advanced and unknowable even by admech standards.

>>53320709
>It's shit, and you love it.
>>53320706

>>53320663

I'm still catching up but I'm not seeing the problem right now. GW made good on actually bringing back a primarch like they threatened to, and it followed through like it logically would. Abaddon actually won a crusade and that has consequences.

>>53320706
Gulliman roflstomps Chaos at every opportunity. Despite this being the 'darkest moment in the Imperium's history' it feels like they're doing even better than before. Chaos feels like a non-entity, existing only so the Space Marines can kick its ass and look 'SUPER HEROIC AND EPIC DUDE' XDDD. This, ironically, makes Gulliman and Co. look kind of 'meh' because there's zero build up and they easily beat the NPC enemies (Chaos and Xenos).

Suddenly, ELITE-ELITE-ELITE-MARINES! Nevermind that the theme of the Imperium being autistically opposed to change has been a huge thing. Suddenly EVERYBODY has these Primarines out of fucking nowhere. Logistics? Time? What's that? Oh warp travel is super hard now due to the Eye? LOLWHATEVER, everyone can have these anyway! GOOO IMPERIUM!

There's no THREAT. Chaos feels as pathetic as ever, Xenos might as well be a non-entity. It's nothing but one big power fantasy for Space Marine players. 40k has always been Imperium-wank, but they seem to be doubling down on it.

As an Imperial Guard player the whole thing is 'meh'. It's like all the nerdy kids decided to try and beat up Chad, but then he goes and kicks their asses anyway and leaves 'em all crying in the hall.

>inb4 'le heresy XDD' memes

>>53320717
you're a simple reverse image search away bub

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>this one guy

>>53320709
Kek, look at this butthurt grognard.

I bet you anything groggy sells his (unpainted) army and picks up primaris marines, the only reason he's so butthurt is because his models are the "best" anymore.

>>53320732

Rough riders can already take special weapons right?

With the new move stat they might work alright.

If they actually get rules

>>53320770
confirmed they're in

also how would the new move stat buff them?

>>53320752
Abbadon still incompetent, Yvraine a total mary sue, unimaginative 'super space marines' only to milk the faction more, campaigns being reduced to hollywoodesque duels between hero characters, magnus incompetent as shit and also reduced in personality to a stereotypical cartoon villain, imperials no longer grimdark but the 'good guys' of the setting and even allying with aliens like the Eldar, etc.

And now with the eternal Guilliwank that the Indomitus Crusade will be, we can pretty much say goodbye to the grimdark 40k and say hi to the noblebright Age of Guilliman.

*sigh* at least the rules are good now.

>>53320701
On top of that, not all Stratagems are granted by Faction keywords. Some of them are just straight up granted from taking certain characters in your army.

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>>53320697
Im just pinning my hopes that come release Primaris will have enough unit options and heavies to flesh out an army without using any manlets.

If they give us blue balls with trickle down releases till Christmas, i might have to postpone getting into the hobby for a while.

I want to get back into 40k after about 8 years out.

I still have some models that I had assembled but never painted.

Some of the paints seem ok to use but some are like shitty blobs. If I mix some acetone or some thinners in will they be ok to use or what? Cba spending a fuck ton on new paints

>>53319605
>Just got my first multi-part kit, and I think I've got it sorted, but not 100%.
>I don't like my chances, but is there anything online that can help you sort out what's what and piece things together?

There's a sub-reddit called WarhammerInstructions which has a bunch

Also, it's worth just googling.

If all else fails, e-mail GW customer service, say you lost the instructions and they will post you some.

>>53320394
>That's breecher team they are close range shooting while strike teams are long range.

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>>53320759
Capped for posterity.

>>53320784

Cavalry used to be slower than bikes last time I was playing regularly (although that might have changed in 7th?)

With fast movement they could fill a similar roles to bikers in other armies, delivering special weapons where they're needed quickly.

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>>53320808
>3%

>>53319605
don't a lot of the new kits have the parts numbered on their sprues in addition to the instructions?

>>53320761
just did, I forgot about that tool. cheers though.

>>53320769
>m-maybe i-if I call him names I won't have to make an argument
Let me speak to your manager, I want to make a complaint.

>>53320806
they're both build with the same kit though, right?

>>53320815
I like to live dangerously.

>>53320759

Gulliman is a primarch. He gets worshipped so much on his own he can basically fake whatever and it'd work.

The way I see it you can only play the DARKEST MOMENT EVER card so many times. Abaddon has had crusades for literal decades of real life and the decline card has been played up to the point where every other advanced version of powered armor got redesigned to just look more boring. Eventually you have to nut up and actually do something.

>>53320770

I'm talking about having two lasguns or equivalent weapons like autoguns INSTEAD of the lance. You cut out the melee aspect entirely.

The conceptual idea I'm working from is that they cost more or less equivalent to standard infantry squads as a base, so possibly even cheaper than current riders since you cut out their signature weapon and their grenades. The difference in customization to differentiate them from horse and cavalry "standard" rough riders is that since they can do less you can customize them with more special weapons by having one on every bike. So you could have a group of ten double lasgun fast guys, or five guys with meltas, or five with lasguns, ect, ect.

They'd die from a stiff breeze, but if you can get them in fast enough you could potentially do some damage.

>>53320823
if you bothered to read, you'd notice he had an argument in there
im not commenting on whether its good or not but there is one in there>>53320821

>>53320837
Chaos needs actual hard-earned military victories if we are to be a threat. Phyrric victories against outgunned and outnumbered imperial forces don't count.

>>53320811
>With fast movement they could fill a similar roles to bikers in other armies, delivering special weapons where they're needed quickly.

That's basically a better way to sum up the idea. You'd get more of them than you'd get bikers in Marine armies, but they'd be more disposable and fragile.

>>53320821
welp good to see you figured it out on your own

>>53320857
I think you fucked up with your quoting.

>>53320868
That I did

>>53320859

The galaxy got cut in fucking half, what more do you want?

Chaos has the advantage that every single mook in the army is immortal and can infinitely regen. One of the main Imperium planets in the galaxy is GONE. The only thing you could really do to esclate from there is to destroy Ultramar or a similar founding Smurf world.

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>>53320859
>carnac and his chaoscucks btfo
>b-but muh great rift killed 6 gorillian imperiums!
Top kek

>>53320786

>campaigns being reduced to hollywoodesque duels between hero characters
>*sigh* at least the rules are good now.

I started in playing in 98, and have just started again after 10 year break. That pretty much sums up how I feel. On the plus side, the rules are what matter, I can make up my own fluff.

If you want more of the old style, surreal grimdarkness feel, check out this blog https://ironsleet.com/. They even get John Blanche to play with them from time to time.

>>53320655
space marines players are very insecure and protective about being the best

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>>53320394
The new kit includes the old helmet design and weapon options.

>>53320788

That sounds like a pretty good solution for factions that have just a few units.

>>53320837
>Gulliman is a primarch. He gets worshipped so much on his own he can basically fake whatever and it'd work.

Sure, he'd have a lot of clout. The problem is when there's no opposition to this. Sure, GW had a few throwaway lines of "well a couple of guys don't like this but w/e" but the fact every chapter (barring Grey Knights for obvious reasons) can takes these makes it apparent it won't hold up. long.

>The way I see it you can only play the DARKEST MOMENT EVER card so many times.

But it never felt like the DARKEST MOMENT EVER which is the problem here. There's a reason Failbaddon meymeys were a thing, and it wasn't just because of the crappy metal model.

Chaos felt pathetic as a villain but NOW was the time for it to go down. They Diablous Ex Machina'ed Cadia, so now was the time for shit to get real. We should've had Chaos front and center, with several more books where they lay waste to much of the Imperium. The Imperium seriously needed some front-and-centre kicks in the teeth, because every time there's been close to one they quickly went "B-B-BUT THEN THE SPACE MARINES SHOWED UP AND IT WASN'T SO BAD!"

THEN Gulliman should have returned. Just when it seemed like maybe Games Workshop are madmen enough to actually be pushing towards another Siege of Terra THEN Gulliman appears. Holy fuck, maybe this ISN'T the end after all?

Imagine if in Return of the King, the Riders of Rohan showed up half an hour in. How anti-climatic would that have been? But that's what this is.

>>53320808

>3%

Anon please

>>53320685
Cool, now I can make a whole squad with Plasma Gun.

>>53320709
It's not shit and you hate it. Those aren't mutually exclusive.

>>53320873
>The galaxy got cut in fucking half, what more do you want?
A natural disaster kek. Not really a military victory for CSM, maybe for daemons.

>Chaos has the advantage that every single mook in the army is immortal and can infinitely regen
Daemons only, get your facts straight. And we lose MUCH more than just daemons even when fighting fucking civilians.

>One of the main Imperium planets in the galaxy is GONE
In an imperium of thousands of worlds, yeah how spooky scary. We couldn't even wipe the Cadian force which is now crusading to take back the pieces of the planet and will almost surely suceed.

>The only thing you could really do to esclate from there is to destroy Ultramar or a similar founding Smurf world
I don't even care if we blow up an important planet. All I want is to actually win a few semi-important engagements by sheer skill or superior tactics to show we have actually competent leadership and soldiers. Fuck up a few fortresses/command posts/fleets without taking equivalent or even bigger casualties in return. That's how you hype up a threat, had Fall of Cadia been written this way... Oh boy.

>>53320873
Telling us "CHAOS IS A BIG THREAT WOOO SO SCARY!" and actually presenting that are two different things. It's why GW kept going "B-B-BUT ONE MINUTE TO MIDNIGHT! HOW FUCKED IS THE IMPERIUM?!" but then everybody in the fandom kept joking about how Failbaddon is so useless and they hope somebody kills and replaces him so shit can get done.

It's lazy writing, rushed out to draw out the maximum about of loyalist SM power fantasy possible. They didn't want to build up the threat, they just wanted to handwave a scenario where "Oh look this hapened w/e... LOOK IT'S GULLIAMAN! LOOK HOW COOL HE IS!"

>>53320759
>Gulliman roflstomps Chaos at every opportunity. Despite this being the 'darkest moment in the Imperium's history' it feels like they're doing even better than before.
hu, did you forgot about half the Imperium now being outside of Terra's light?
>Chaos feels like a non-entity, existing only so the Space Marines can kick its ass and look 'SUPER HEROIC AND EPIC DUDE' XDDD.
It is nothing new. Space Marines have been the invincible heroes for at least 4 editions.
>Suddenly, ELITE-ELITE-ELITE-MARINES! Nevermind that the theme of the Imperium being autistically opposed to change has been a huge thing.
You seem to misunderstand the fluff. The administratum is stagnant and shit. But the Mechanicum has never stopped developping new toys.
>Suddenly EVERYBODY has these Primarines out of fucking nowhere. Logistics? Time? What's that?
We have no idea how much time it took. I wouldn't be all that surprised if a millenia or two had passed.
>Oh warp travel is super hard now due to the Eye? LOLWHATEVER, everyone can have these anyway! GOOO IMPERIUM!
From my understanding, half the Imperium have it hard, the other half still has access to 'classic' Warp travel woth no problem. And it seems like Guilliman is on the good half. I don't see your problem here.
>There's no THREAT. Chaos feels as pathetic as ever
except for the warp-hole it tore across the whole fucking galaxy, and warbands now roam freely everywhere.
>Xenos might as well be a non-entity.
True - but again, that's nothing new.
>It's nothing but one big power fantasy for Space Marine players.
>It's like all the nerdy kids decided to try and beat up Chad, but then he goes and kicks their asses anyway and leaves 'em all crying in the hall.
Do you see that this analogy could work for any edition of 40k (except MAYBE RT)? I mean, it's not new stuff.

What I get from this is that you don't like 40k fluff, not 'nu-40k'. Or at least that nu-40k is at least 20 year old for you.

>>53320472
'Imperium' faction only gives access to generic stratagems. Presumably 'orks' gets ork specific ones in the same way 'astra militarum' do.

Kind of a downer that it seems some stratagems will require you to have no allies and no mixing clans and the like, but hopefully they won't be essential.

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>chaos officially worse than NPCs

>>53320912
>>53320928
>>53320929
>>53320934

Stop taking this shit so seriously, all of you.

>>53320912

Of course there's no opposition. He's the son of a man who's been worshipped for as long as there's been real life human civilization and he's big enough he can just fistfuck anyone who doesn't like it to death.

Once you introduce a Primarch, the entire equation of the Imperium changes, and it doesn't matter which one. They don't get debated, they dictate the terms, and none of them actually buy into the shit being sold by the modern imperium.

>>53320876
You should really try and read people's posts before attempting to troll them.

>>53320882
I hope we get lots of Forge World campaigns in the future. At least they can write up a decent story, Siege of Vraks was just so comprehensive and logical.

>>53320891
thanks for pointing it out. I didn't even notice that.

>>53320928

Maybe if you stopped using 'we' to refer to a bunch of fictional characters and didn't take the addition of some new models as a personal slight your butthurt wouldn't be a problem. Cry to your faggot Abaddon tulpa.

>>53320924
Except it IS shit and you love it. You love shit. That's funny.

>>53320820
They do, but not really in a logical order.

>>53320966
Completely subjective, Anon.

>>53320945
>d-dont take our shit job at writing fluff seriously!
No mr.shill, your employers really need to step up their game or leave all the fluff to Forge World altogether.

>>53320954
>cry more xddddd
Thank your for admitting defeat.

>>53320976
>shit is subjective
Nah.

>>53320786
Yvraine is what happens when you create a character based on the things she's done over a long period of time, bypassing character development entirely. Which 40k character ISN'T a Mary sue?

>>53320786
>Abbadon still incompetent
true
>Yvraine a total mary sue
true
>unimaginative 'super space marines' only to milk the faction more
well it's both milking Marinefags AND answering a minority of them who wanted 'true scale' Marines. Instead of just releasing new kits with bigger Marines, they decided to fluff it this way, so people could transition at their own rythm.
>campaigns being reduced to hollywoodesque duels between hero characters
that's the case since 5th edition at least
>magnus incompetent as shit and also reduced in personality to a stereotypical cartoon villain
when was he ever fleshed out? BL novels? The same novels which reduce everything at herohammer, thing you despised a few lines above?
>imperials no longer grimdark but the 'good guys' of the setting
when did that happen
>and even allying with aliens like the Eldar
there has always been temporary alliances with Xenos in the fluff. And this one makes sense: if Chaos wins, Eldar souls are eaten by Slaanesh. They don't want to be eaten, therefore they give a little help to the Imperium when they're about to lose. Seems reasonable to me.
>And now with the eternal Guilliwank that the Indomitus Crusade will be, we can pretty much say goodbye to the grimdark 40k and say hi to the noblebright Age of Guilliman
I don't think so. Even we see a bit of noblebright shit (I personally think it will be more nobledark but whatever), we'll only see it on the Terran-side of the rift. The Dark Imperium is is deeper shit than ever, and there's no reason it will change.

>>53320991
Anon she just goes around casually doing shit previously thought impossible. There is no justifying this.

>>53319389
Race mixing is bad

>>53320948
>I hope we get lots of Forge World campaigns in the future. At least they can write up a decent story, Siege of Vraks was just so comprehensive and logical

Yeah, forgeworlds format of something more like an Osprey historical book works loads better, and gives way more room for Your Dudes.

The GW campaign books read like a list of boxed sets you can buy. I miss the random grim dark titles they used to give to stuff, Giga-tyrants, arch-demagogues, data-cohorts. We had no idea what the fuck they were, but I wanted to build my idea of them.

>>53320797
asked the same question on /wip/ a few days ago, I was told to use acrylic medium. NO WATER, it's a solvent and not a medium for acrylic.
Prepare to be disappointed is the paint too dry.

As a new player, what point army should I be looking at starting off with?

Is there a certain threshold at which I reach it, I should feel the army is "ready" and then start playing and then fixing up units and swapping out after playtesting?

53321006
53320979

Kys

>>53320991
Any Imperial Guard character.

>>53320994
>when was he ever fleshed out? BL novels? The same novels which reduce everything at herohammer, thing you despised a few lines above?
Except they don't, they just tell the story from the Primarch's viewpoint, as opossed to the omniscient narrators from the GW books which actually reduce the entire campaign to said duels while also addressing the larger conflict.

>when did that happen
From WoM onwards they're only portrayed as noble heroes. They don't even purge the alien anymore.

>there has always been temporary alliances with Xenos in the fluff.
Not really. Truces have been made before for individual engagements, but they're actively helping each other now.

>The Dark Imperium is is deeper shit than ever, and there's no reason it will change.
Until they pull out some bullshit plot device and undo all the damage. Don't kid yourself, it will happen.

>>53320998
I feel like there being a new god justifies it.

>>53321019

Currently standard games 1500 or 1850 points.

If the new rules coming soon follow suit with Age of Sigmar you're looking at 1000, 2000 and 2500 I think.

>>53321026
yarrick

>>53321039
Because the Imperium has never worked with Xenos to kill another, bigger threat.

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And so the infighting continues, with /tg/ never learning.

>>53321040
No, not really. She has no flaws nor weaknesses. She casually ingores established boundaries. Everyone admires or at least respect her even Guilliman. It's the textbook definition of a Mary Sue and a CLEAR example of bad storytelling.

>>53321057
Christ. I think i have corneal cancer now.

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>>53321057
>that FUCKING slaanesh

>>53321051
It really hasn't. Both the Beast and the HH were won without alien help.

>>53321070
The Eldar tried during HH but only met Fulgrim post corruption.

>>53321060
What about the huge amount of Eldar and Deldar that want her dead or think she's a daemon worshipper?

>>53321091
No impact in the fluff whatsoever, might as well not exist.

>>53321044
He does his best to hold the line, but even under his command the Imperium still loses a fuck load of ground on Armageddon and it's only when the Space Marines show up they can really do anything, at which point he's overshadowed by them anyway.

I admit that having the Orks literally cheering him on in a big parade thing was kind of cringy.

He's far from a Mary Sue though, but he's the closest thing the Imperial Guard has to one (even if he isn't).

>>53321057
Wait, there's nudes of the bug breeder?

>>53321103
Not true. We can expect Vect and the Haemonculi Covens at least to try and kill her again.

Why are DAngels so gay?

>>53321118
Yup, there is one yesterday.

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>>53320484
Working on some havocs, posted this over in WIP earlier. Not sure if the mix of my own ACs and the Legion Autocannons look right together. Thoughts?

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>>53321121
>i-it's not t-true! my cristal ball told me i swear!
top kek

>>53321142
I don't see why not, seems obvious?

>>53321142
And one the third day, he rose again!

>>53321147
Not really, GW hasn't hinted at anything of the sort.

>>53321142
Why do cheetahs all look like they're laughing all the time?

What's so funny?

>>53321142
>just as predicted by >>53321057

>>53321147

Not that guy but Vect is busy with Lady Malys and civil war, the coven might try and take her out I guess but that doesn't seem their style.

>>53321160
>>53321157
I am not cheetahfag. Calm the fuck down.

>>53320979

>calling him a shill because he told you to contain your autism

Lmao

>>53321060
>>53321103
>no flaws nor weaknesses
>casually ingores established boundaries
>Everyone admires or at least respect
>No impact in the fluff whatsoever from opponents

So are you talking about Farsight, Creed, Yarrick, Cawl, or Cypher here?

>>53321172
>not liking shit fluff is autism
Such transparent shilling. I take it it's your first day on the job?

53321179
(You)

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>>53321126
Chaos corruption, bud.

>>53321057
Around raven guard, never drop guard.

53321179
>shill! Shill! Everyone who like what i dont is a shill
Do the world a favor and drink some bleach

>>53321130
dang, missed it.
did they turn out to have a dick?

>>53321174
>Farsight
Fucked up quite a few times and learned from it. You'd know this had you actually read his novels.

>Creed
Mere tactician, got beat by Abbadon.

>Yarrick
Beat by Ghazkull.

>Cawl
Did not know how to use the pylons, needed Necron help.

>Cypher
We don't even know much about this guy, but he gets caught all the time so he's not perfect like Yvraine.

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>>53321202
>>53321187
>>53321020

>>53321202
>paid shill doesn't even know how to quote a post
Like pottery.

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Can this list survive a planetstrike match as defender?
I'm not sure with the sorcerer - either summoning demons for objectives or something to buff my troops against grey knights.

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>>53319372
SJW got triggered by
>>53316249

>>53321205
I was too busy silently fapping to notice,

>>53321130
Damn, I always miss such things. Me and gf love degeneracy/degenerates like that.

>>53321118
>>53321130
>>53321205
>>53321225
>literally as per prediction in >>53321057
Can't make this shit up

>>53321237
Cheetahfag wasn't this autistic. Stop false flagging, Shareblue.

>>53321244
i just wanna know if it was a dark angels or not

>>53321262
I thought the meme was that DA are gay, not crossdressers.

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>>53321234
>Shareblue
you know where to go

>>53321267
>implying they don't crossdress in the privacy of their sex dungeons deep within the Rock

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>>53321258
He was always cancer.

>>53321267
some things go hand in hand, anon

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>>53321276
>notmypresident
You know where to go

>>53321213
there is no point taking abbadon right now, he's utter shit

>>53321140

How is that AC? I purposely avoided that one because the belt sounded like it would be a nightmare

>>53320786
>At least the rules are good now.
>No Tank Shock. Or model displacement of any kind.
>Tanks hit stuff on the same WS no matter what, be it a Grot or Monolith.
>Missing simply means both models stay still.
>Stationary vehicles still attack. Probably by spinning in place.
>Grots can just stop a Land Raider in its tracks.
>Baneblades are now Beyblades
What are these good rules you speak of, anon?

>>53321280
>posts pics of weeaboo conventions of the pedo variety
>m-muh spooky cheetah poster!
Lmao why are cheetahs so repulsive to the mentally ill?

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>>53321276
Go away, Alpha Lejewn

>>53321313

You just listed them

>>53321309
It is a pain in the ass to assemble, though it looks good. Had to do a lot of reposing of arms and cut backpack in half to attach the ammo box etc. It'd be literally impossible to attach after painting due to the sculpting needed, but I like the end result.

>>53321313
>Stationary vehicles still attack. Probably by spinning in place

More likely by attempting to push forwards and crush their attackers.

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>>53321314
>Laughably project some sense of presumed reverence for an actual autist
>Get triggered by glorious nippon culture

>>53321057
I dislike the assertion that all of the levelheaded people are pro-eighth.
I'm pissed as fuck.

I'm also not memeing shit

>>53321314
Ok. How would that work, with say a Rhino trying to crush a Land Raider, which will be possible now come 8th?

>>53321057
Always knew the redeeming edition would be the one in which space marines had to rebuy all their models for meaningless codex upgrades.

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>>53321350
Here's what I ended up doing with the backside. For the next one I'll try to heat the resin a little to see if I can slightly repose the belt.

>>53320286
>i play against bad players
>i still lose sometimes
LOL

>>53321382

What, with a 5+ 6+ set of rolls countered by a 2+ (if any vehicles have 2+ saves, it'll be land raiders and Monoliths)?

>>53321382

Maybe it leans all of it's weight on the treads?

Anyhow I need to go take a shit, brb.

Has anything we've seen so far showed that Hellions are going to be use able again? Planning on getting a gangs of commeragh if so

>>53321384
I don't know if you understand what "had to" means but it means that it's a necessity, an unavoidable must.

Can I use any brand of spray paint for my primer?

Got flat black since the shop wasn't carrying any matte. The brands are Canbrush and Storm.

>>53321467
Flat and matte are the same thing. The question you should be asking is if the spray paint you bought is usable as a primer.

>>53321467
>Can I use any brand of spray paint for my primer?
Make sure its PRIMER

You dont want to just use random black spray paint on your models

>>53321302
He is the only HQ that I can't change - any other ideas?

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>>53320412
Old newspapers, actually.

>>53320412
>>53321548
I remember that old /b/ project where everyone typed the word "nigger" into the captcha to throw it off and to fuck with the free labor system.

>>53321467
Not really. Many spray paints aren't well suited to priming miniatures. Honestly, I would recommend using citadel sprays. They are the best I've found and while they are expensive, it's worth the cost when you're putting so much time and money into the miniatures anyway.

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>>53320484
I wanna start putting on weathering powders already but first I should paint all the details which I don't really have any inspiration for

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>>53321590
>t. nick

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>>53321130
>missed the thread
>look into the archives
>link down

>it was even a reply to an edit I did during her first appearance
it's not fair brooders

>>53321458
The only indications we have of delicate melee units being viable is the points costs we've seen seem to be mostly reasonable.

>>53320011
If they fuck up imperial guard, me and 98 of my friends will bayonet charge their sigmarine statue.
And only half of us will die on the way!

>>53321600
Your frontal glacial is flat and boring. I recommend an Aquila or some spare track links on the front.

Or some blood splatter! 8th edition is the Melee tank addition after all!

>>53321667
I'm gonna put on a dozer blade probably.
Or this tank is fated to become the paint-tester of my collection.

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>>53321314
Cheetah fag is the hero we have. Not the one we want.

>>53321618
>>53321618

So hold off you reckon? I don't really need more reavers just thought it might be a good game to pass time if Hellions make a come back. Here's hoping they bring back Baron and Duke

>>53321620
>Not raiding Bovington for armored support first

We must remind them how tanks are SUPPOSED to work!

>>53321612
TOP

KEK

>>53321476
>>53321496

I'll double check the cans later. Thanks for the replies.

>>53321590

I wouldn't mind getting the citadel primer but unfortunately the shop that sells them here are all out and no ETA on restock.