OOTS - Are You Fucking Kidding Me Edition

>>53304282
He updates slow. Nothing new. He has an excuse, etc etc.

I haven't read in a few years so I'm looking forward to a nice binge when I do. Left off around Tarquin times.

>>53304282

That's his M.O. for close to 10 years now.

>>53304328

Don't bother coming back. It's shit, now more SJW.

>>53304935
What's so SJW about it, outside of a single SJW haircut and one use of the term "salty"?

>>53305095
One of the pirates is a lesbian.

Not like that's a thing for female pirates at all

And it's a new thing too, not like any of the main characters have been mentioned as having an interest in the opposite sex or anything

>>53305328
And of course she's the only female member in the crew, too.

>>53305328

>webcomic has thousands of characters
>one of them is a lesbian
>this makes it SJW

You must be fun at parties.

>>53305434
I'm pretty sure he's being sarcastic, anon.

>>53304282
>It takes a month to produce ....this update. What.
He just released an 80+ page comic to the kickstarter backers like four days ago.

Rich prioritizes the people who pay him money. Welcome to capitalism.

>>53305434
>You must be fun at parties.
I think that was sarcasm, anon.

>>53305732
>He just released an 80+ page comic to the kickstarter backers like four days ago.

When do the rest of us get to read it?

Still waiting for a download of Snips, Snails, & Dragon Tails as well.

>>53305782
>When do the rest of us get to read it?
Rich mentioned he was hoping to have a set of the backer comic pdfs available for sail by this winter, including SS&DTs and the just finished Sapphire Guard one.

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>>53305095
>>53305328

Sure thing, all mothers make sure to include different sexes when talking about a future partner.

Not "someone".

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Also, didn't you know gendered insults is harmful to wimyn?

>>53306997
My dude, you are going on a wild fucking goose chase.

>>53307018
>>53306997
He's just writing with his audience in mind. I mean, have you seen his forums?

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CAN WE END THE WAGE GAP?! IT"S CURRENT YEAR!

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>>53307033

Dude, no one but tumblr talks like that. Come on'

>>53307047

I know. I'm just clarifying why I said the comic had gone the way of the SJW.

>>53307049
Actually I kind of like that bit. Normally woman warriors are just a thing, these days - it's nice that the comic would sort of acknowledge how unusual it should be and how they might be considered inferior in battle.

>>53307076
Surely not ALL the way, though. As far as I can tell there's really just the occasional bit here and there, and once you start actively looking for those, you can find them just about anywhere, even in older fiction.

Might as well let it be and not give a shit. If the comic is good, it's good - and if it's not, surely you have better reasons for it being shit.

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>he doesn't have the O-Chul comic

>>53307085

In a world with magic, it would make sense. It's just blatant virtue signaling that takes me out of the story.

I mean, fuck, why would she be dropping exposition mid fight to someone who doesn't give a fuck? It's not even relevant to the story.

>>53307099

The comic has not been good for years. Glacial pacing, the insertion of the blandest "Strong Female Protagonist" I've seen in a while in the form of Bandana, stupid sidetracking of the plot despite the abysmal update rate....

>>53307166
Then why are you here? Go find something you enjoy and do that.

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>>53307204
It is the nature of /tg/ to hate, and revel in their hatred.

>>53307204

That would be a valid question if I were on the Giantitp forums. But this post is on the /tg/ catalog.

Can't I express my opinion on a subject unless it's praise?

>>53307278
If you can't attend the things you love, attending the things you love to hate is easily the next best thing.

>>53307287
>Can't I express my opinion on a subject unless it's praise?

There's honestly not much point in doing so.

What would you wish to accomplish with it? Do you seek to sway someone from liking the comic? And if so, why do you care if someone likes it?

That being said, meaningless praise would make for a dumb post as well. Much better to tell us what you liked of the update and what you didn't, speculate to the future, and otherwise comment in a more nuanced manner.

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>>53307357

I was literally asked about it.

Also, I'd recommend you'd lurk more, get more acquainted with /tg/ culture before you start posting.

>>53307357
>There's honestly not much point in doing so.
I can think of a few reasons.
A former fan that wants to discuss how the comic could improve, or affirm that they're not just being weird in not liking it.
Maybe they want to reminisce about times when it wasn't at the state it's in now.
Or use it as a springboard into a tangential topic that they don't feel deserves a new thread.
Or just revel in the fact that they can have a debate in an area where a dissenting opinion or heated comment won't get them instantly banned and/or swarmed by people defending their cyber good boy points.

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>>53307076
>gone the way of the SJW

Aside from that 4-page bit with the Ettin in the O-Chul comic about internet trolls (which I got a chuckle out of even if I thought it was heavy-handed), he doesn't shoehorn shit in or call attention to it. He just puts it in there naturally. He's more akin to an actual progressive than an SJW. Everything he does actually makes sense if you pause for a moment and consider the world the comic takes place in.

>>53307049
>implying frost giants of all people wouldn't have a culture like that

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>>53307909

I posted the other examples.

>>53307955

That's not at all what I am implying.

"Lean in, sister" is unironically used. And why the fuck is she sharing that with an enemy? It's virtue signaling, pure and simple.

>>53307909
I agree that he's usually a hell of a lot better than most at weaving it into the narrative, but that Frost Giant one is ridiculously heavy handed.

>>53308029
>why's she sharing that with the enemy

Because this is OOTS, and people say stupid shit at each other in combat in every single one. They do it so often that literally the only time a fight's done in silence is when Hinjo dueled Miko, and even then they didn't start out silent.

>>53308101

Before, it was insults or puns. It's not the same.

>>53308030
I feel like the "Lean in, sister" bit was just a lampshade-hanging joke rather than any sort of virtue signaling.

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I am not Thog

>>53308220
I don't even mind that bit, it's the fact that the frost giant brings it up out of nowhere with incredibly clunky dialogue that's the bad part.

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Anyone else really enjoy the O-Chul .pdf? I waited 6 years for it, and I think it delivered 100%. O-Chul is the shining example of everything a paladin should be.

>mfw Miko
>mfw the duel
>mfw he was not the sergeant

>>53308310
Where can I get it?

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>>53308260
>Can't turn last bubble into RNG

>>53308177
but wanting to shout "Lean in, sister" was the joke. They have little lines like that in the midst of combat all the time with the very basis of the joke being that it's an inappropriate time to say it. in this case the joke is that Haley supports the sentiment the frost giant is exposing and would typically demonstrate a measured amount of support while explaining that she still has to stop (kill) her for her own reasons, however Haley is not there and is instead receiving the urge to express this support without the context to restrain herself to some extent.

Do you get it now you incredible autist? Have I dissected the joke enough for you?

>>53308310
I could if you share it

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>>53304282
>This shit takes a month
>Meanwhile the author of kill six billion demons can shit out 3 page a week or so usually

why the fuck have I been reading this comic for over 10 years? Since the party got their asses whipped by Miko in the rain. Fuck.

>>53308480
He DID just finally shit out of the O-Chul story, and that was like 95 pages.

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>>53308521
Great, is he gonna get back to an update schedule of at least one update a week? Every 7 days at the least?

>>53308533
Don't know, but he said that for the rest of the summer updating the main comic is his primary goal and that he's not going to do any more kickstarter stuff beyond crayon drawings for the time being.

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>>53308561
Great, so that's probably a 'no' then, because this fucker has the artistic pace of a slug. I guess I can read up on the comic next year and catch up on the 4 strips I missed between now and then.

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I really hate Order of the Stick. The self-referential "jokes", the slow updates, the terrible, overly-wordy combat sequences, the constant breaking-of-the-forth-wall for the sake of "lulz," when in reality it just destroys the immersion that already isn't there. The characters have gone from likeable to almost complete cunts, this entire godmoot shit is like the nuke in Indiana Jones, it's going to make whatever climax with Xykon eventually squirts out of Rich Burlew's cock look like a BB rattling around in a gnat's asshole compared to this "Roy v.s. his best friend for literally the fate of the literal world. Literally." And the worst part is, it's slow as fuck. The problem isn't even the amount of update. Once a week is fine for a well-written full-page RPG comic. It's not like XKCD cancer where all Munroe has to do is sketch a few stickmen while he's taking a shit. That's fine. But it's the whole "9000 word dialogue while FUCKING FIGHTING WITH SWORDS." I would bet my ass Rich Burlew has never been in a fight in his goddamn life. There isn't enough fucking breath for talking. It's just shoved in there because he wants "le comical showdown" that ends up being flat and unfunny 99% of the time.

This comic hasn't been funny or enjoyable in years. Is there a reason people are still reading it?

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>>53308260
Nothing of value was lost: The Edit

>>53308599
>Is there a reason people are still reading it?

The occasional pretty cool scene, but mostly just a force of habit.

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>>53308599
I'm just here because i've been reading this comic for way too long. Back when it had a good pace and punch to the humor.

>>53308310
Share therkla pdf's too if you have it. That didn't leak either.

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>>53306997
>When that entire vampire extra Necrological personality thing is actually a fucking thing in 3.5

The more you know!

>>53308599

quality pasta, son, you did me a proud

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Who /eagerlyawaitingBelkar'salignmentshift/ here?

>>53308373

You are retarded.

>>53308892
And you're easily triggered by any joke that's not perfectly in line with your politics. You'll probably blow a gasket when you see the Ettin scene.

>>53308865
One of the few things I'm honestly looking forward to in the story.

>>53308772
>>53308753
>force of habit

You're retarded. Don't read something shitty just cause you read it for the past 5 years.

>>53308946
It's like two minutes off my day every week. Might as well.

>>53308960
every month you mean

>>53304282
>Who would've predicted that acting completely at random could ever turn out bad?

Okay, I actually laughed. I shouldn't have, but I did.

>>53308922
It's been set up really really well. I gotta give props to Rich for being able to not only make me give a shit about an unabashed CE murderhobo, but to make me invested in watching him grow and change.

>>53308599
I'm easily amused.

>>53308748
>how
>bad

tee hee

>>53304935
> It's shit, now more SJW.

I know what SJW and how they behave and how they can ruin things and this comic is no more SJW than in past and you are one full of shit.

Anyone else really starting to hate that bitch of an engineer?

>>53311569
I'm mainly baffled by someone who would piss off 5 people who are more than capable of killing everyone on board with the slightest effort, one of whom would clearly do it for fun.

>>53311569
I hated her from the start, but it looks like she's coming around and with any luck might actually realize she's been a bitch.

>>53311569
B-B-But she's just a misunderstood qt...

I've read this comic since I was 13 and now, over ten years later I still get a good chuckle out of it. I like Rich although I'm still a bit mad he isn't working faster. When I get my kid I'd like to have the completed series in my bookshelf for him to read.
or her

>>53304282
What year did you start reading OotS?
For me, it's 2006. Somewhere near when Roy starts to date Celia the fairy.

>>53311861
For me a little while after that - Roy had just recently heard he'd been dead for months, I believe.

Can't imagine it's been so long. This story really moves at a snail's pace.

>>53304282
He certainly hasn't improved at drawing.

>>53311569
I was rooting for Andi's mutiny before -Bandana was being a fucking cunt, not because of her sexuality but because of how she bossed around the crew when she was just interim learning the ropes-, now not so much.
>>53311861
Can't remember, when was it that Richie did the guest comics for 8-bit theater?

>>53304328
>He updates slow. Nothing new. He has an excuse, etc etc.

he just released a 95 page Ochul story thru the kickstarter.

>>53312852
I also rooted for her earlier, when she had good intentions and legitimate complaints, before Rich realized he made her too sympathetic and just turned her into dumb crazy bitch.

>>53313432
I don't know - right now I get the feeling that she's just really stressed out, especially in the latest comic where she's almost certainly lying to herself. Whether her bitchiness is legitimately bad writing or just a part of her character arc will be known in the aftermath.

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>>53313432
>dumb crazy bitch
She was always like this. It's just that when shit started getting worse and worse her cool slipped more and more away as she got further out of her element. Even her open contempt for Bandana was on display earlier; her refusing to recognize her command because she still saw herself as Bandana's elder and better didn't get pulled out of thin air. She was saying shit about how Bandana "wasn't REALLY Captain now, she's just watching the ship for the *real* captain until he gets back" dozens of pages before the mutiny happened.

I'm also predisposed to disliking engineers thinking that since they know shit about engines it means they know shit about command.

>>53313535
>"wasn't REALLY Captain now, she's just watching the ship for the *real* captain until he gets back"

This is true though. Maybe is Bandanna wasn't such a shit she'd command respect.

>>53313563
The fuck it is. Command doesn't work like that. If the previous captain leaves the ship and names someone else captain, that person is the new captain until they name someone else or the old captain returns to reclaim his position. Even if you just see it as her standing a watch until he gets back, she still has the full weight of his authority vested in her to act in his stead.

>>53308029
I saw your examples. I think you're being oversensitive.

>>53313655
If nobody respects the new captain it just won't happen though. Whether they ought to or not.

>>53313655
>>53314092
Especially when we're talking about a crew that seems to be predominantly from the chaotic alignment angle.

>>53314092
>>53314148
It seemed like the only one who had any real problems with her was Andi; everyone else got brought into line when Roy agreed to pay them 200 gp apiece.

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>>53314294

When the comic introduced sexism in a world that generally avoided any mention of sexism or racism in order for a strung indipendant woman to mention how she's oppressed by it was my last straw.

And this was the comic that got me into D&D 3e.

>>53314410
>When the comic introduced sexism in a world that generally avoided any mention of sexism or racism in order for a strung indipendant woman to mention how she's oppressed by it was my last straw.

It was a fucking frost giant. Literally everyone else has been portrayed as egalitarian. Do you not think frost giants might have a sexist society?

>>53308310
it really is a nice one. One thing in particular that struck me was O-Chul going all pragmatic diplomacy, and explaining why.

>>53314457
>Literally everyone else has been portrayed as egalitarian
Yes. That's his point, retard.

>>53316186
But they weren't frost giants. Retard.

>>53312929
I was referring more to his medical issues that slows down his pace, but yes, he has also been working on that.

>>53316361
In a world where even literally goblins are egalitarian, it's a stretch to imagine that women are "so oppressed" in this reality. You inbred knuckledragging backbirth neanderthal.

>>53307166
>Bandana
>"Strong female protagonist"

You mean the wannabe pirate captain who couldn't keep her crew in line? I mean, there's probably going to be a point where the crew will be all "ooooh we should've just listened to you", but this being OOTS she's gonna be like "maybe, but I also made mistakes including but not limited to blah blah blah".

What I'm saying is Bandana's supposed to be ambitious, but also still learning.

>>53316556
Goblins have a very clear imperial-based civilization, unlike the tribal barbarian frost giants.. The only one saying "OMG OPPRESSION" is *you*. The comic itself >>53307049 just has the character griping about how she had to pretend her fellow warrior was better than she was. You easily triggered manchild fucknugget

>>53316742
Another important thing to consider is that if Bandana is a "strong female protagonist" who's supposed to be clearly in the right, the impudent crewmember who is mutinying against her for all the wrong reasons...is also a woman.

>>53316787
>goblins have a very clear imperial-based civilisation
Except that's completely wrong you slavering nitwit. They are just as much stickpicking tribal barbarian louts as you imagine these giants to be.

The one redeeming part of your post might be you having a childish GOTCHA moment and saying that the one crying oppression was "me" if it was actually me, but it's not you bumbling illiterate cretin.

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>>53308748

>>53308960
That's two minutes you could spend reading a webcomic that's actually good, like Goblins!

>>53316970
The Hobgoblins built and maintained an organized military, and several cities/forts, which you should have easily remembered. Furthermore, they also had an existing organized church as opposed to tribal shamans, and when they took over Azure City they were able to institute their own bureaucracy and continue running it. All of which demonstrate civilization and not mere tribal barbarism.

Furthermore, you retarded piece of shit, the only one who mentioned "oppression" WAS you. >>53316556
>it's a stretch to imagine that women are "so oppressed" in this reality.
>"so oppressed"
If you're going to deny reality at least wait five fucking minutes before you do so.

>>53317041
Ah yes, I was forgetting how you never cried oppression. I was totally forgetting how you never suggested that frost giants might have a sexist society.

Oh no, wait, you did exactly that.

>>53314457
>sexist

Good job contradicting reality by the way, I can't even imagine how many levels of self delusion you're on right now.

PS: If we're down to nitpicking each other's posts, you never mentioned hobgoblins, you talked about goblins who we have seen in Rich's universe to be primitive tribal shits who live in crappy huts out in the wilderness.

With the exception of one anal retentive bureaucrat empowered by an artifact of his god.

>>53306997
In a comic page that smugly shit, the 'gal or fella' is the part that stands out to you as terrible?
Like, I swear to Christ, I never use this phrase, but the entire run of this fucking comic could be summed up as 'have you tried not playing dnd?'

>>53307047
I left after a thread full of numales and trannies oy vey'ing about how very problematic the concept of a gritty medieval campaign where stronk independent women didn't exist was. That was years ago.

How bad has it gotten?

>>53317213
And? I said is it not possible that these tribal shits might be sexist. That's a far fucking cry from "so oppressed". Mild sexism is still sexism even if it is not oppression, so even if they aren't being oppressed they're still pissed off about it.

And then you came in and went off on a longwinded profane rant over fucking nothing. Just to put this into perspective, this was a 3-4 panel joke/exchange that has not been touched on since. This is what people have claimed "ruined the comic for them". You're one to talk about self delusion.

>>53317471
You don't understand what a symptom is, do you retard? It isn't that one thing that does the job by itself, it's a pattern of similar incidents revealing an underlying attitude that is, as your kind loves to put it, toxic.

>>53317471
It's a consistent theme in Rich's work you drongo.

>>53317508
>your kind
I don't know, anon. You're the one getting massively triggered that a media work has politics that don't line up with yours. Sounds pretty SJW to me.

>>53317514
Yes, he's a progressive. Anyone can see that. It's still just a 4 panel joke that isn't touched upon again.

>>53304282
Oh, thought this had died along with Goblins.

>>53317973
Goblins is still updating. More often than OotS in fact.

>>53308480
K6BD is also just a much *better* comic.

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last good scene was the durkula fight

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orididgeridoo

I stopped reading when the elf killed that dragon mom and all her family

I find it hilarious how REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SSSSSJJJJWWWWSSS REEEEEEEE /pol/ cucks are even more easily offended than social justice warriors

>>53318183
Now *I'm* sad.

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>>53319167
I do too fellow corpulen/tg/endrfluid individual!

>>53304282
Haven't read OOtS since sometime around the "purple mage elf realizes maybe genocide was a bad idea" arc in the desert. Or it was some time after that when the lich was killing the weebs. I can't remember the series of events of this fucking series anymore. Maybe they were on an airship?

Anyway, what the fuck happened to Roy's sword?

>>53319213
>if you don't suck /pol/'s dick and agree with them 100% you're an SJW

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>>53318894

>>53319257
The giant knocked it out of his hands and it flew off the ship

>>53319257
Andi fucking up made the ship hit a mountain and knock it out of his hands about 5-8 comics ago.

>>53319273
Wow, what a horribly anti-climactic way to get rid of such an important weapon. Then again, he'll probably get it back soon enough.

>>53319295
It's like the third time he's lost his sword.

>>53319258
>if you don't drop down on all fours and spread your ass for the whole rainbow coalition you are a /pol/ack

See?
I can use stupid hyperbolies too.

>>53319307
Maybe this time he'll finally buy locking gauntlets. He's high level with a single specific weapon he always uses; he has no excuse for it at this point.

>>53319310
>uses stupidly charged terms to mock those who disagree with him
>immediately jumps in to the defense of /pol/ when its name is besmirched
>thinks anyone but /pol/ ever uses the phrase "spread your ass for the whole rainbow coalition"

>>53304282
People still read this crap?

I dropped it some time after the art shift and the terrible vampire plot-tumor.

>>53319286
>>53319273
>>53319307
Why doesn't the dumb fuck have it chained to his arm by this point

>>53320741
He's only dropped it once.

I think.

>>53308480
most authors do.
Gunnerkrigg, Girl Genius, all 3 pages a week, like a clock

How about you shut up about politics and instead someone post the O-Chul comic?

>>53311861
>What year did you start reading OotS?
When they were still in the dungeon and it was kinda neat and fun. I was younger too and didn't know any better.
Now I don't really care about it anymore. I'll maybe get around to reading it when it ends in 2056.

>>53319257
The elf didn't even do anything wrong desu

>>53321308
Nope, just genocide.

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>>53320850
he said not to, he even said please.

>>53322408
Oh, fine.

Where can I buy it then?

Am I the only one who thinks that this comic was only good at the times where it was mostly pointing out 3.5 flaws?
Now it seems to me that with its "story" and "characer growth" the comic has lost focus, and it's stumbling foward blindly to an ending that will disappoint everyone.
At this point I don't even know why I still follow its updates, maybe because I just want to confirm that it's going to be as shit as I expected...

>>53305328
>Not like that's a thing for female pirates at all
What. Did your brain shortcircuit for a second there ?

>>53322839
The problem is that it's not following the interesting issues.
While theres always been the problem of Rich time and events getting dragged out (Tarkin being a particularly long example) it's rare that such a complete non issue gets protracted this long, and the fact that his breaks have been particularly egregious doesn't help any.

>>53308480
If you don't like free stuff that doesnt follow yor timetable, don't read it.
t. free market

>>53319265
>>53318894
Only few of good edits and I dont even like Jojo

>>53319310
>>53319213
You have to go back.

>>53306997
>gal or fella

Damn, I cringed hard. No joke, I'm not being sarcastic or anything, i agree with you anon that is awkward as fuck, blatant pandering. I hope Rich is getting some nice whale pussy from all this.

>>53322477
It is a kikestarter exclusive so you're fucked.
iirc he said he will eventually make it available to everyone so you can enjoy it in the old folks home.

>>53325438
Ask Thunt for how far pandering gets you.

>>53326957
Eh, that's about as heavy as his pandering get; Durkon was established as straight long ago. Burlew knows to not take it too far, unlike some other leftist webcomic writers.

>>53326957

Wasn't Thunt's thing to put his foot into his mouth, piss off aggressive fringe groups and then whine on social media?

>>53322839
I blame Cerebus

>>53304328
Same.

>>53305434
it is legitimately heavily leaning towards SJW shit since this new chapter began

>>53307018
>Also, didn't you know gendered insults is harmful to wimyn?
This is a direct reference to that other rival she had going on. Wasn't there some flashback where they went at it while calling eachother bitch? It's just referring that, nothing SJW about it.

>>53325438
You're too sensitive.

>>53328003
In what way? It should be obvious if it's so legitimately heavily leaning.

>>53305360

Actually, there's like three or four women on the crew. Bandanna, the Engineer, and the black chick with pink hair are all female.

>>53306997
>all mothers

-A mother- among the dozens we've seen mentions having an open mind once in a frankly too long scene where she gets frankly too much screen time.

>"Waaah the homosexuals were included. Waah SJW pandering waaaah."

>>53308260
>>53308748

I know this is a popular form of autism here, but it's still autism. Brevity is not compulsory. Art (even shit art) says what it says in order to create the effect the artist desires. You're not improving it, you're just making it into something else for no reason.

Also it's a fucking stick man rpg comic. Why are you even bothering.

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>>53307166
Are you seriously asking why a fighter in a gag-based comic book would be talking midfight for the sake of a gag?

She's bitching about a thing that her character cares about (which helps define her character to the audience) while fighting someone. It's like when Green Arrow and Green Lantern used to argue over their Left-vs-Right political philosophies while mowing down mooks who neither knew nor cared what they were going on about.

Telling the audience what a character cares about is a much more effective and efficient way of making the character 3 dimensional and memorable than droning on with an 8 hour backstory or going to greater and greater lengths in the pursuit of even funkier hair.

>>53308029
see
>>53328904

The joke is that the frost giant and Haley happen to care about this same issue. No one else in the comic cares about this issue.

You're confusing Virtue Signalling with character definition and identification because you're oversensitive and a spaz. Chill out.

>>53327717
this anon was funny

Wonder what the CPPD story is going to be about.